[00:05] <SparksIT> Is there a device manager for ubuntu, or how do I tell what devices it had detected and installed the drivers for?
[00:12] <Azelphur> SparksIT: most drivers are in the kernel so you don't need to install drivers
[00:14] <SparksIT> thats what I figured, however I cannot output sound through the HDMI and while setup detected my 2TB HDD, it no longer sees in mythbuntu
[00:14] <Azelphur> ok lets attack the sound issue first
[00:14] <Azelphur> install the pavucontrol package
[00:15] <SparksIT> downloading
[00:16] <Azelphur> start it up and go to the configuration tab
[00:16] <Azelphur> is your device there?
[00:16] <Azelphur> you'll have something like "Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output" in one of the dropdown boxes
[00:18] <tgm4883> Azelphur, pavcontrol would imply he has pulseaudio, which we don't include in Mythbuntu
[00:18] <Azelphur> oh?
[00:18] <SparksIT> It looks like it installed but I do not see Digital Stereo HDMI Output, though I did escape out of Mythtv
[00:18] <tgm4883> so it's probably best to check if he has Ubuntu or Mythbuntu
[00:18] <Azelphur> didn't realise it was pulled from mythbuntu :p
[00:18] <SparksIT> I used mythbunut
[00:19]  * Azelphur has no idea how to do this with alsa
[00:19] <tgm4883> Azelphur, yea I don't think we've ever shipped that
[00:19] <Azelphur> fun
[00:19] <tgm4883> aplay -l
[00:19] <tgm4883> that would list sound devices
[00:19] <Azelphur> My mythbuntu install seems to be running pulseaudio somehow
[00:20] <tgm4883> Azelphur, then you installed something that pulled it in
[00:20] <tgm4883> or you ran into an upgrade bug that did
[00:20] <Azelphur> must have
[00:20] <Azelphur> upgrade bug sounds like it, I've done a lot of upgrades :)
[00:20] <SparksIT> I see several devices, include 2 HDMI devices
[00:22] <SparksIT> when I ran set up, I selected both the HDMI's and ran the test, but neither worked
[00:24] <tgm4883> SparksIT, have you checked alsamixer and verified that nothing is muted
[00:24] <tgm4883> or attempted playing audio outside of mythtv
[00:25] <SparksIT> When I go to PulseAudio Volume Control, I get Connecto to PulseAudo Failed...I don't see a alsamixer
[00:27] <tgm4883> is pulseaudio even installed?
[00:33] <SparksIT> it is an application, I would assume it was installed
[00:34] <tgm4883> dpkg -l pulseaudio
[00:35] <SparksIT> it is listed as unknown
[00:35] <SparksIT> and not installed
[00:36] <tgm4883> ok
[00:36] <SparksIT> should I install it?
[00:37] <tgm4883> no
[00:43] <SparksIT> So I plugged in an usb stick with some avi files, still no sound
[00:44] <SparksIT> but in output mode fo alsa audio output, there are quite a few options to select
[00:54] <SparksIT> so far none have ouput sound
[00:55] <tgm4883> SparksIT, sorry, I'm doing like 4 things at once here :/
[00:56] <SparksIT> no problem, i'm in no rush
[00:56] <tgm4883> SparksIT, so in the command line, you should be able to run alsamixer
[00:57] <tgm4883> should show a volume control
[00:57] <tgm4883> verify  master or PCM is not muted or turned way down
[00:59] <SparksIT> neither is muted or turned down
[01:01] <tgm4883> SparksIT, ok, found what I was looking for
[01:01] <tgm4883> do 'aplay -L"
[01:01] <tgm4883> aplay -L
[01:01] <tgm4883> so different than last time
[01:02] <SparksIT> check...a few more devices have been listed
[01:02] <tgm4883> ok
[01:02] <tgm4883> so we're going to use speaker-test outside of mythtv
[01:02] <tgm4883> using something like this  speaker-test -Dhw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 -c2 -l2 -twav
[01:02] <tgm4883> speaker-test -Dhw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 -c2 -l2 -twav
[01:02] <tgm4883> where 'hw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3' is the card
[01:03] <tgm4883> which is what you got from aplay -L
[01:05] <SparksIT> any specific one, or just start at the top?
[01:05] <tgm4883> without seeing the list, probably just start at the top
[01:06] <tgm4883> even if I did see the list, I'd probably just guess anyway
[01:06] <tgm4883> so the -c2 is going to test left channel then right channel
[01:06] <tgm4883> -l2 is going to repeat the test, since on my system it appears to take a second to kick on so I don't actually hear the first left channel test
[01:09] <SparksIT> so I typed speaker-test -Dhw:Card=PCH,DEV=0 -c2 -12 -twav
[01:09] <SparksIT> and I get speake-test: invalide option --1
[01:10] <tgm4883> that is a lower case L
[01:10] <SparksIT> minus the spelling mistakes
[01:11] <SparksIT> ahhh...in that case i get Playback open error: 16,Device or resource busy
[01:11] <tgm4883> hmm
[01:12] <tgm4883> try a few more devices
[01:12] <SparksIT> I move on to hw:Card=PCH,DEV=3 and I get an output that looks successfull but no sound
[01:13] <tgm4883> SparksIT, ok thats better
[01:13] <tgm4883> go though them all and see if any play sound
[01:14] <SparksIT> bingo...I move on to hw:Card=PCH,DEV=7 and I heard sound
[01:14] <tgm4883> awesome
[01:15] <tgm4883> SparksIT, so lets go back into the frontend and see if we can select that card
[01:17] <SparksIT> back in the frontend, and I am selectin alsa:hw:CARD=PCH,DEV7 and i get that it is invalid or not useable.
[01:18] <tgm4883> hmm
[01:18] <tgm4883> can you do the speaker-test on the rest of the cards and see if any others produce sound?
[01:19] <SparksIT> sure...should I limit it to the hw section, I have soem that start with dsnoop, dmix, hdmi and so on?
[01:20] <tgm4883> I'd go though them all
[01:32] <SparksIT> I only found 2 others, test both withen frontend, but I recieved the same error as before
[01:40] <SparksIT> I re-open VLC and open the avi clip again and selected one of the work devices, and I have sound with the clip
[01:40] <SparksIT> *known working devices*
[01:42] <tgm4883> SparksIT, ok, so we can select it in other things besides mythtv and it works
[01:42] <tgm4883> out of curiosity, can we reboot and try selecting it?
[01:43] <SparksIT> already in progress
[01:43] <tgm4883> ok
[01:44] <SparksIT> that worked
[01:45] <tgm4883> sweet
[01:46] <SparksIT> hate to rain on the parade, but now i get an error that it can not connect to the backend...which is odd has the PC is a host to both
[01:47] <tgm4883> ok
[01:47] <tgm4883> is the backend started
[01:47] <tgm4883> I'm immune to rain. Pacific Northwest FTW
[01:48] <SparksIT> lol...when I go into the backend, I get a warning that it is currently running
[01:48] <tgm4883> ok
[01:49] <tgm4883> in the frontend, do you continue to get the warning it can't connect to the backend?
[01:49] <tgm4883> like if you go to the recordings screen?
[01:50] <SparksIT> no, I can browse around, I only got it on boot
[01:50] <SparksIT> and when I went into the backend
[01:51] <tgm4883> SparksIT, ah ok, so your machine is fast enough to boot up and get into the frontend before MySQL and mythbackend can finish starting
[01:51] <tgm4883> so you get that error on boot, but then it goes away as the backend finishes starting
[01:51] <SparksIT> ahh...the OS is on a SDD
[01:52] <tgm4883> yep that would probably do it
[01:53] <SparksIT> the other issue i was having was it is not detecting, by storage HDD, but if you don't have time thats fine.
[01:53] <SparksIT> you have helped me out quite a bit
[01:53] <SparksIT> and I appreciate it
[01:53] <tgm4883> SparksIT, I recall you saying that earlier
[01:53] <tgm4883> it saw it during install, but not now right?
[01:53] <SparksIT> correct
[01:54] <tgm4883> yea, so it's because you haven't mounted it anywhere
[01:54] <tgm4883> is it a blank drive or is there stuff on it?
[01:54] <SparksIT> blank, new out of box
[01:55] <tgm4883> ok, what do you plan on using it for?
[01:55] <SparksIT> storage, i want all my recording to go to it as apposed to my SDD
[01:55] <tgm4883> ok
[01:56] <tgm4883> what is the output of sudo fdisk -l
[01:56] <tgm4883> use pastebin
[01:56] <tgm4883> !pastebin
[01:56] <Zinn> when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[01:58] <SparksIT> you will have to bare with me, my IRC client is on a different PC then the myth box
[01:58] <tgm4883> ok
[01:59] <SparksIT> but id does se it at /dev/sda
[01:59] <tgm4883> ok, so you are sure it is /dev/sda?
[01:59] <tgm4883> otherwise we're going to format the wrong drive
[02:00] <SparksIT> it as it listed as Disk /dev/sda: 2000.4GB
[02:00] <SparksIT> the SDD is only 60GB
[02:00] <tgm4883> ok
[02:00] <tgm4883> so do
[02:00] <tgm4883> sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[02:02] <SparksIT> I get a message about the device does not contain a vaild dos partiton...
[02:03] <SparksIT> it builds a DOS disk label
[02:03] <tgm4883> ok so it built one?
[02:03] <SparksIT> says changes are only in memory
[02:04] <SparksIT> I also have an erro on device presents a logical sector size taht is smaller the the physical sector size
[02:05] <tgm4883> Might want to take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[02:05] <Zinn> [help.ubuntu.com] InstallingANewHardDrive - Community Ubuntu Documentation
[02:13] <SparksIT> the instructins say, that if I am sharing between ubuntu and windows, I should use FAT32...I thought FAT32 was limited to 32 GB?
[02:14] <SparksIT> wouldn't NTFS be a better choice?
[02:15] <tgm4883> SparksIT, how are you planning on sharing it with windows?
[02:15] <tgm4883> a
[02:15] <tgm4883> are you dual booting?
[02:16] <SparksIT> No...but if myth does not work out, I will be converting to Windows Media Center, and I don't want to lose any recordings
[02:17] <tgm4883> IDK, you might have issues with NTFS and mythtv
[02:17] <tgm4883> I'd recommend ext4, but that isn't compatible with windows
[02:19] <SparksIT> I'll go with ex4, if need be, I'll copy to another HDD if I have to switch
[02:49] <SparksIT> tgm4883...thanks for all your help, though I'm sure i will back another time
[16:04] <izzi4> Any alternatives or guides to setup rrdtool on mythbuntu?
[16:19] <tgm4883> izzi4, rddtool isn't mythtv specific, so any guides for ubuntu should work with mythbuntu as well
[16:28] <izzi4> tgm4883, valid point, not sure why i was asking here.  Thanks
[23:43] <zcutlip> hello--I'm reinstalling one of my mythtv front ends from scratch using mythbuntu 12.04.  During setup when it prompts for the backend's pin, it hangs after clicking "test connection", and I can't skip this step.  Any suggestions?
[23:44] <zcutlip> my frontend was previously 11.10, and I upgraded in place to 12.04, before today's wipe/reinstall.