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ballAre ther other Linux distributions that use Xfce ?00:41
Unit193Sure, plenty.  Fedora, debian, etc.00:46
ballUnit193: Thanks.01:05
synaptixeven classic Ubuntu can use XFCE via xubuntu-desktop or installing the xfce4 metapackage01:08
ballNot sure what the point of that would be, given that Xubuntu ships with it.01:09
ballThanks for the data point though.01:09
ballHow is Xubuntu's support for networked printers and scanners?01:11
Unit193Never tried scanner, but printer worked last I tried.01:26
ballI may get a chance to try some soon.01:27
ball(of the larger "office photocopier" variety).01:27
ballI'll have to pick up a laptop first though.01:27
ramprasadgkHey guys i got brand new latest xubuntu on my system02:49
ramprasadgkit runs like a charm02:50
ramprasadgkbut...02:50
ramprasadgki can tfind device drivers on the net02:50
ramprasadgkcan somebody point me where to find my device drivers it is compaq laptop02:50
holsteinramprasadgk: whats up? is something not working?02:52
ramprasadgkno02:52
ramprasadgkmy audio n wireless02:52
holsteinyou might find a driver here and there, but the drivers are just in the kernels02:52
ramprasadgkit says wireless device not detected02:53
holsteinramprasadgk: you should plug the laptop into wired internet and look and see if there are any restricted drivers available02:53
ramprasadgkyes i will try that02:53
ramprasadgkone more thing what is xcfe02:54
holsteinXFCE02:54
holstein!xfce02:54
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels02:54
ramprasadgkok xfce02:55
holsteinits the desktop environment... there are plenty...02:56
ramprasadgkfluxbox is one of them?02:56
holsteinyup.. openbox... LXDE, KDE... etc02:56
ramprasadgkisnt that window manager02:57
holsteinramprasadgk: there is a difference, but mostly you will be interested in desktop enviroments... the all in ones02:58
holsteinat least for a while02:58
ramprasadgkwell02:58
ramprasadgkactually i have a linux server to connect to in which case i use fluxbox02:59
ramprasadgkwhere i do not want full desktop02:59
ramprasadgkfor home systemm i use xubuntu02:59
holsteinsure.. i was just expecting you to not know about that since you were asking about XFCE03:00
ramprasadgkhmm03:01
holsteini dont think you'll argue that setting up and using fluxbox is a bit more advanced than using xubuntu03:01
ramprasadgkNo it isnt03:01
ramprasadgkactually i got xubuntu pretty neat03:02
ramprasadgktill my wireless and audio fail to work03:02
holsteinramprasadgk: cool... its just my opinion from setting up fluxbox years ago, using openbox, LXDE, XFCE, and unity,a nd trying KDE and mate and cinammon and lots of others03:02
holsteinramprasadgk: i found fluxbox a bit more "advanced" to configure than XFCE is out of the box03:03
holsteinbut, again.. thats just me.. what can i help you with?03:03
ramprasadgkwell, it depends03:04
ramprasadgknow my biggest problem is getting my wireless working on my compaq laptop03:04
holsteinfor sound, i usually refer to the wiki03:04
ramprasadgkwith xubuntu03:05
holsteinopen a terminal and run aplay -l and/or arecord -l03:05
holsteinrun alsamixer and make sure you try tweaking everything03:05
holsteinmake sure its not something easy like the output is muted in the GUI03:05
ramprasadgkok03:05
holsteinramprasadgk: i would run lspci, and see what chipset your wifi device has and i can steer you in the right direction03:06
holsteinlspci or lsusb03:06
ramprasadgklet me do that03:07
ramprasadgkN10/ICH 703:09
ramprasadgkIntel03:09
ramprasadgkaudio03:09
holsteinhhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting03:10
holstein!paste | ramprasadgk03:11
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holsteini agree with http://askubuntu.com/questions/103611/no-sound-with-a-n10-ich-7-audio-controller and might just install pavucontrol03:12
holsteinjust choose what you want to work on, and we'll just knock it out.. whenever you get tine03:13
holsteinim in a power outage and just wasting time anyways.. but i will be off when the batteries fail03:13
ramprasadgkok03:20
Deutopiapavucontrol fixed and issue with ich10 sound for me03:29
Deutopiajack fixed it comming out of the wrong output03:30
ramprasadgkKudos guys03:33
ramprasadgkI FIXED IT03:33
ramprasadgkwith the help of troubleshooting guide03:34
ramprasadgkthanks a tonne03:34
ramprasadgkSOUND IS OK now03:34
ramprasadgkwireless is NOT but :(03:34
Deutopiathen what good is it  :P03:39
ramprasadgk:)03:41
ramprasadgkatleast i can watch my archived movies03:41
xubuntu557hello, i'm new to all of this and am looking for some help03:42
xubuntu557I have some sort of nasty virus (or something) and am trying to just delete everything and use ubuntu03:43
xubuntu557anyone there?03:44
ramprasadgkwireless help :) needed03:48
xubuntu557sorry, anyone else still around?03:52
Deutopiahiya04:00
Deutopiawe can help you install ubuntu. what have you done so far (where are we?)04:01
Deutopiaguess he figured it out?04:09
holsteini think most folks have issues with these chipsets ramprasadgk , so i'll link this for you04:27
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx04:27
ramprasadgkok thanks holstein05:28
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adoresHello guys. I want to switch from Ubuntu 10.10 to Xubuntu becuz my GPU has 32MB and everything is so slowly and painfully. I want to ask you does Xubuntu offer same terminal commands as Ubuntu, I mean : sudo dpkg -i test.deb and etc... ?07:37
koegsadores: everything is "the same", xubuntu is using the same base-version of ubuntu just with xfce as default session07:37
adoresOkay, thank you !07:38
ablomenHmm this is weird.. since yesterday, all .php files have flash icons in thunar, has anybody else noticed this?08:43
Sysiablomen: default icon theme?08:50
ablomenehm i think so lemme check08:50
ablomenelementary Xubuntu dark08:50
ablomenSysi, though i just remembered, i am using the xubuntu-dev 4.10 PPA version of xfce, so that might have something to do with it, so i guess this is the wrong place to ask08:52
ablomenhmm yeah when I use "elementary dark" (without the Xubuntu part) everything seems fine08:55
Deutopianot happening here09:08
knomeablomen, if it's precise, i doubt it has anything to do with xubuntu (i might be wrong though)09:09
longwuyuanhi, can someone point me to the docs for 1laptop+1monitor extended screen config09:16
longwuyuandefault install is giving me clone on laptop & monitor09:16
Sysiuse arandr09:16
longwuyuanfor safety sake ..  it this documented anywhere09:17
longwuyuanand i will read about arandr now09:18
longwuyuaninstalled arandr ... i get to save output any way to test all this. i am in office09:22
longwuyuan:-D heaven09:22
longwuyuani just hit apply and wonder :-)09:22
longwuyuanthanks tons Sysi09:22
ablomenknome, sorry was out for a few minutes, yeah i guess it's one of the ppa's i am using, other icon packs work, so all is well09:30
ramprasadgkhi09:48
ramprasadgkwhile i try to install brodcom driver09:49
ramprasadgksudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o09:49
ramprasadgkit says file has an unknown MD5 sum09:49
ramprasadgkany help?09:49
recon_tvHi all, think I'v decided to buy a Acer Aspire V3-571 3rd Gen Core i5 , main conserns are the intel HD 4000 integrated graphics and the wifi card, I have the option of adding a Nvidia GeForce GT 640M if the graphics are a problem ( at least I hope i can add the video card), and a dongle for wifi if it's still having problems. any comments?10:21
TheSheeprecon_tv: I have a laptop with intel HD 4000 and it works fine10:29
TheSheeprecon_tv: I was even surprised that it supports two external monitors connected at once10:29
olbitake only Intel, because gpu switch still is crappy10:30
olbionly good working app is Bumblebee10:30
TheSheepit works though10:30
TheSheepnot perfect, but still gives some speedup10:31
recon_tvall sounding good, getting ready to produce the CC =-O10:31
olbiI wonder, why Intel doesn't make a Intel Drivers Center, like nVidia and AMD :D10:31
recon_tvwonders why intel did not just buy nVidia10:32
olbiwhen AMD bought ATI, earlier it could be nVidia :D10:32
olbibut CEO could not come to an agreement10:33
olbiwhich should be leader :P10:33
recon_tvanyway, going to buy this laptop, could spend forever looking at all this stuff and i want a computer :-D10:34
recon_tvhopefully before the end of the week10:34
olbiAMD with integrated nVidia chip in CPU - so beatiful dream :)10:34
TheSheepolbi: because Intel's drivers are just included in the kernel10:34
TheSheepolbi: no need to install them separately10:35
olbibut app still could be there to install :) for basic options10:35
TheSheepolbi: all the options are provided by the standard linux tools10:35
TheSheepolbi: it's just nicely integrated with the rest of the system10:35
Sysinvidia supports some of those functions nowdays10:36
TheSheeppoorly10:36
olbiyeah, show me app which is display actually temp of Intel GPU :]10:36
TheSheepolbi: cat10:37
TheSheepolbi: which means you can display it with a panel plugin10:37
olbiTheSheep: you mean terminal cat?:P10:37
recon_tvhmm, is a rescue dvd worth 18euro, or can i make my own with a nice app on a live usb?10:37
TheSheepolbi: yes10:38
TheSheepolbi: it's somewhere in /proc10:38
TheSheepolbi: you just look it up in the docs10:38
TheSheeprecon_tv: you can make your own10:38
ramprasadgk~$ tar xfvj broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2 ~$ sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o ~$ sudo b43-fwcutter --unsupported -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver/wl_apsta_mimo.o10:38
ramprasadgkin the second step it says unknown MD5 sum10:39
ramprasadgkwhat is the best way to install this firmware10:40
recon_tvok done, 540 notes lighter but hopefully a decent laptop that will last as long as the last one10:50
recon_tvgot a bag to put it in too :)10:51
mips1911what did you buy?10:51
recon_tvO, how you ask, Not telling you incase you know it's a bad buy :P10:52
mips1911lol, it's a bad buy10:52
recon_tvwell, got 5 years out of my last one, so here hoping10:53
mips1911so what was it then10:54
recon_tvmips1911: it's a Acer Aspire V3-571 3rd Gen Core i510:54
mips1911540 dollars, pound euros ?10:54
recon_tvmips1911: it's 510eu including delivery10:55
mips1911http://www.acer.co.uk/ac/en/GB/content/model/NX.RYFEK.00510:56
mips1911price seems ok10:56
recon_tvwas considering the extended warranty, but it excluded accidental damage so did not seem worth it10:58
mips1911looks like it also comes with a Win8 upgrade offer :p10:58
recon_tvIf MS actually offered a proper install cd/dvd i'd consider it, but they won't11:00
recon_tvbut have not had a partition corrupted win any form of windows since 200611:01
recon_tvwith windows in *11:01
mips1911you can always download the iso and burn your own11:01
recon_tvmips1911: I would be suprised, the normal is you have to have in 7 installed before you can apply the "upgrade" total cluster f'k11:02
knomerecon_tv, please watch the language.11:03
knomealso, #xubuntu-offtopic11:03
mips1911ok11:03
recon_tvsry, just stuff like that make my blood boil11:03
knomerecon_tv, you know that's not an excuse for an adult :)11:04
recon_tv:-[11:04
knomebut np. just make sure it doesn't happen again :)11:05
olbiwho will be at FOSDEM 2013 from Xubuntu Team?11:05
TheSheepolbi: there is #xubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat11:06
olbisorry11:06
TheSheepno problem :)11:06
recon_tvanyone else have shoutcasts keep playing after they close the app thats playing them ?11:07
Sysisounds like app isn't really closed11:08
recon_tvtrue, I can find them using system monitor and close them, but their windows are gone.11:09
recon_tvget thins in netscape and rythmbox11:09
Deutopiadragonplayer does that to me11:22
recon_tvhi, anyone know how to find a network printer using cups, cant remember the ip address it's setup on.12:30
holsteinramprasadgk: i would try the other one. sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer or the legacy one if needed13:01
ramprasadgkhey guys where do i download vlc media player for xubuntu13:24
Sysisoftware center13:25
holsteinramprasadgk: i would just get it from the repos.. i would open the package manager of you choice and search VLC13:25
holstein!vlc13:25
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs13:25
ramprasadgki dont have repo13:29
ramprasadgklink is needed13:29
Piciramprasadgk: its in universe, you should just be able to install it without adding any repos.13:30
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sdhwhen i log into my xubuntu 12.04 64-bit box, it takes about a minute for the desktop icons and panels to appear14:31
sdhanybody seen that before?14:31
sdhi can't find anything on google and if i can't fix it i will have to try something else :(14:31
toraxtell a bit about what kind of hardware you have14:32
sdhthinkpad x20114:33
sdhit's an i5 chip, 8gb ram, 256gb ssd14:33
sdhintel embedded graphics if i recall14:33
sdhnothing special14:33
toraxand plain xubuntu, nothing fancy installed?14:34
Sysihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accountsservice/+bug/99679114:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 996791 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu 12.04 extremely slow login" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:35
sdhinteresting Sysi thanks, let me take a look14:35
sdhtorax: yeah14:35
sdhSysi: i didn't see that, probably because it is so slow that i was googling for "xubuntu blank desktop" rather than slow login14:36
holsteinramprasadgk: you just open a package manager and search... vlc is in the default repos that xubuntu/ubuntu comes configured with14:40
holsteinhttp://www.noobslab.com/2012/03/install-vlc-201-on-ubuntu-1204.html ..except, you shouldnt need to add that ppa unless you want the latest and greatest14:42
holsteini would just open the software center as Sysi suggested, and search "vlc" as i suggested and install, and enjoy :)14:42
sdhSysi: incredible that that bug is still unassigned14:42
|Anthony|why does lightdm automatically use -sharevts and -novtswitch when it launches X15:04
josy1982hello?15:07
holsteinjosy1982: hey.. feel free and just ask if you need help15:09
holstein|Anthony|: if there is an issue, i would just file a bug so the issue is officially logged15:09
|Anthony|holstein, i don't know if its a bug or an intentional thing15:12
|Anthony|which is what i'm asking15:12
|Anthony|i can't imagine that it is doing it without some specific direction in the code somewhere15:13
holstein|Anthony|: if its breaking something for you, i would file, so its logged15:13
|Anthony|pft... there are bugs filed regarding multiseat setups that are 4 and 5 months old. both of which are still of "undecided" importance15:14
|Anthony|lol15:14
holsteinits not a perfect system, but it is the best way to get the information out and logged... multiseat is not shipped by defaul either... the core apps are usually looked at more closely AFAIK15:16
|Anthony|what do you mean "not shipped by default"15:18
|Anthony|the [seat:n] section is built in to the config file15:18
holstein|Anthony|: AFAIK, ubuntu/xubuntu doesnt ship with the intention of providing multiseat support15:18
|Anthony|ah15:18
|Anthony|yes, it is a struggle to set it up15:19
holsteinagain, im not saying its "right" im just saying why maybe the multiseat bugs might not be top priority15:19
|Anthony|i'm sure they are not15:19
holstein|Anthony|: you mind if a query you for a minute about multiseat?15:21
|Anthony|sure15:21
|Anthony|fire away15:21
josy1982hello i wan to try xubuntu i have the live cd. If i boot from live cd screen wents black or with mixed color screen and reboots automatically or just hangs what can i do?15:24
toraxjosy1982: tell me a bit abour the hardware you are running15:26
josy1982it's a new computer . Graphics amd radeon 6670, 8 GB DDR3, 500GB HDD Sata2, Quad CPU AMD Athlon II 4x 2,6 GHz15:29
SkippersBosswhat's the graphics chip15:31
Tsavoamd radeon 667015:38
toraxWell it sounds like trouble with graphic card15:42
josy1982nobody an idea?15:42
josy1982and what can i do?15:43
toraxone moment15:43
bazhangjosy1982, try the nomodeset option15:46
bazhang!nomodeset | josy198215:46
ubottujosy1982: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter15:46
josy1982thank you i go to ty15:48
* ball burns a Xubuntu 12.04 i386 CD15:58
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bluphenix316hey is there a way to make Xubuntu's display manager look like the one from ubuntu?19:09
Unit193What's the one from Ubuntu look like?19:09
bluphenix316It doesn't show a window for username and password, instead its on the left hand side of the screen19:10
bluphenix316i know it uses lightdm just like ubuntu but it looks different19:10
bluphenix316maybe its just the one i'm using. i'm not acutally using stock xubuntu, i'm using voyager19:11
peripetieyep :)19:12
Sysibluphenix316: install that greeter19:13
bluphenix316Sysi: ok thanks19:14
Sysi!info lightdm-webkit-greeter19:15
ubottulightdm-webkit-greeter (source: lightdm-webkit-greeter): LightDM Webkit Greeter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.2-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 197 kB, installed size 268 kB19:15
SysiI think it's that one19:16
bluphenix316hmm I installed the unity-greeter, maybe i shouldn't have19:16
bluphenix316hehe19:16
bluphenix316let me see19:16
Unit193Sysi: Unity greeter, thought he was talking about the Display in Settings Manager.19:21
uskerinehi, xubuntu live cd (using pendrive) stop working, i am stuck at login screen (it never appeared before), at console level i am logged in as xubuntu user19:38
uskerineany ideas?19:38
toraxmost of problems with pendrive that I had was due corrupted media19:39
xubuntu651hello. Why xubuntu dont install grub ?19:41
SkippersBossxubuntu651,  Are you installing xubuntu via Wubi ?19:44
nahI am trying to use xubuntu from usb19:57
nahbut it won't do anything19:57
nahthe laptop does not have a battery attached19:57
penreturnsdoes the xubuntu boot?20:04
nahtes20:04
nahyes20:04
penreturnsso u choose try or install?20:05
nahno RUN Xubuntu from this.....20:05
nahusb20:06
nah12.0420:06
nahbuilt on 20120817.320:07
penreturnshv u create live usb for that and setting bios to boot from usb?20:07
nahyes20:08
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penreturnsare u sure the iso file is not corrupt?20:08
nahno20:08
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penreturnstry burn into cd n boot from cd. or else u need to download it back20:09
nahbut I used the iso on to install Xubuntu on USB and formated the USB and installed from same image20:09
recon_lapnah, the usb does the install, you only use the iso to create the live usb20:11
recon_lapnat , you probably erased the install data off your usb before the install had really started, thus it failed20:17
penreturnsdid u just copy the iso file to usb?20:23
nahno I used pendrive20:24
penreturnsyeah i mean did u just copy the iso to ur pendrive?20:26
recon_lapnah, no, you install the iso on the pendrive20:26
nahI sude universal USB installer 1.9.0.920:27
recon_lapthen boot using the pen drive and install xubuntu, DO not format the pen drive20:27
nahcan you install wine and run windows 32 aplications?20:27
recon_laphttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick20:28
penreturnsyes but not all application support20:28
penreturnsif u want to install xubuntu on pendrive, why not make Live USB with  persistence20:29
recon_lapnah, you can try make a dual boot system, which mean you will have both windows and xubuntu, you pick which one you want to use at boot, or you can install a program called wine which emulates windows with varying levels of success. there are other options but thoses are complicated enough20:30
recon_lapthoses are/these are*20:31
recon_lapcrap, payment issue with my new laptop. I'll have to called them tomorrow20:37
recon_lapwonders what nah is doing to his pendrive  :)20:40
penreturnshehehehe20:47
xubuntu186hi all21:08
recon_lapthat was a short visit21:10
newcomerIs there an Xubuntu build for ARM processors?21:13
recon_lapnewcomer: I guess there is. do you need a special build though?21:16
newcomerno21:17
newcomerJust a generic ARM build.21:17
recon_lapnewcomer: guess I'm wrong, have not used ARM so not knowledgeable.21:22
newcomerThere's an Ubuntu one though.21:22
newcomerhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm21:22
recon_lapnewcomer: don't see one on the xubuntu site. thats where it'd be if it was supported21:23
recon_lapyou could maybe load a headless ubuntu and then load xfce on it, not sure how close that would get you to xubuntu though21:24
recon_lapor if it would even work :)21:24
newcomerA friend of mine who's new to GNU/Linux has an "Andriod PC" with ARM processor and would like to use it as an HTPC.21:25
newcomerI recommended Xubuntu + XMBC before knowing it had an ARM processor.21:26
newcomerHe's thinking of installing Debian on it. Which is good, since Debian has best architecture support of all distros.21:28
recon_lapnewcomer: probably the best idea, it's the basis of ubuntu and xubuntu. they just very slow adopting new things21:29
recon_lapnewcomer: never mind :-[21:42
recon_lapnewcomer: not sure about passing th id if it's auto increment21:42
recon_lapnewcomer: sorry wrong channel21:44
newcomerrecon_lap, lol21:44
newcomerno problem.21:44
pavel_Hello23:03
pavel_Does anyone know how to change the port settings for the software updates? I am behind a firewall.23:04
TheSheeppavel_: software updates are done through http23:07
TheSheeppavel_: you can configure a proxy if you need23:08
pavel_Thank you I configure the proxy and internet works fine but i believe the update is being blocked. I read on some earlier forums that updates use port 88. I tried their method of changing but no results.23:09
TheSheepfirst thing I hear about port 8 :/23:10
TheSheep8823:10
pavel_Ok well I appreciate the response Thanks alot23:11

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