[00:03] <phil> it seems that "kde-window-manager" is removed..
[00:03] <phil> how to get it back ?
[00:19] <poedragonwarrior> hey
[00:20] <poedragonwarrior> so yeah I just compiled KDE 5 alpha, and here is a screenshot of the default theme and layout http://i.imgur.com/4exYu.jpg
[01:03] <mparillo> poedragonwarrior: Looks good, thanks for sharing. I assume it is not in a PPA yet?
[01:12] <Platypus-Man> hello, I am trying to find a torrent for Kubuntu 10.04 LTS, but am unable to locate it on the homepage or by googling, any of you know where it is located?
[01:28] <Platypus-Man> nevermind, used the waybackmachine on archive.org to give me an archived page of the Download page that had 10.04. now I just have to hope someone is still seeding it... it is an LTS release, so in theory should not be a problem
[02:42] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[03:31] <splin> hi
[04:44] <Santiclause> Anybody know how I can open the kickoff application launcher from the command line?
[04:44] <Santiclause> i.e, as if I had clicked it?
[05:00] <Gorroth> hi there
[05:01] <Gorroth> in KDE, on my netbook, i changed the workspace from "netbook" to "desktop", and then i changed it back a couple mins later, realizing i like the "netbook" variant.  now, when i alt-tab, it doesn't do that whole slide-show thing... is there a way to get it back?  just makes it easier on this computer
[05:38] <akis> hi all. i chated here some months with a kind person form Canada who helped me to setup my onboard modem. i cannot remember his nickname but i know is here because i saw him again and again. if anyone knows him please provide me his nick to let me find him easiest to help me to setup it again because i reinstalled my system.
[06:32] <C62> TITANIC
[06:34] <akis> hi all. anyone can help me to make efax-gtk to open my modem port (ttySL0)? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216218/
[06:40] <lordievader> akis: I think the person you mean is BluesKaj.
[06:44] <akis> no he is not. his nick has 2 words with a - between them. he konws very well everything about modems because as far as i understood he is working in something related. any way i thing i solved the issue. i run the efax from terminal using sudo and the port opens. is there any other option to force efax running under root permissions so it can access my modem's port?
[06:47] <Smurphy> akis: check which device (serial - /dev/ttyS0 ?) the efax uses, and add the user (you ?) to the group the device has write access to.
[06:49] <Smurphy> Means - group fax or serial: chgrp serial /dev/ttyS0; adduser <you> serial
[06:49] <Smurphy> and you should be done.
[06:49] <akis> ok. its clear. where can i find it to put my name: 'user'?
[06:52] <akis> i went to my profile and i gave access to everything. let;s see now.
[06:52] <Smurphy> everything is the windows way. Not good.
[06:53] <akis> need a new log to run it?
[06:53] <Smurphy> no - why ?
[06:54] <Smurphy> adduser akis serial : would add user akis to the group serial
[06:54] <akis> although i gave root priviliges to my user doesn't work
[06:54] <Smurphy> The command before assigned the device /dev/ttyS0 to group serial.
[06:55] <Smurphy> Eventually you will still need to do a: chmow 660 /dev/ttyS0 to give the group write access to the device.
[06:55] <Smurphy> root privileges is just the group.
[06:55] <akis> what is the command i have to give in terminal?
[06:56] <Smurphy> I don't know what efax uses.
[06:56] <akis> efax-gtk
[06:56] <Smurphy> make a: ps auwx | grep efax
[06:56] <Smurphy> when it runs.
[06:57] <Smurphy> and then tell me which fax/serial device efax uses. it must be in the configuration.
[06:58] <akis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216250/
[06:58] <Smurphy> you logged in as user: user ???
[06:58] <Smurphy> lol :)
[06:59] <Smurphy> so - you are the one using the program.
[06:59] <Smurphy> Now - find out - what device efac-gtk uses.
[06:59] <akis> yep. my nickname is 'user' is that bad?-:)
[06:59] <Smurphy> no. funny if at all :)
[07:00] <akis> that's right. thanks. so how can i check the device?
[07:00] <Smurphy> Try making a: dmesg | grep ttyS
[07:00] <Smurphy> it should give you the devices (serial devices) existing on your system.
[07:00] <akis> actually it gave me nothing
[07:01] <Smurphy> make a dmesg | grep tty
[07:01] <Smurphy> then
[07:01] <Smurphy> I need to know which serial Device you are using.
[07:02] <akis> any other command to verify it?
[07:02] <Smurphy> not that I knew of.
[07:03] <akis> it doesn't give me anything.
[07:03] <Smurphy> Is there something in the efax-gtk configuration talking about device ?
[07:04] <akis> no. but as far as i konw is an intel. lets check modemdata.txt
[07:05] <akis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216256/
[07:07] <akis> smurphy: i will be back at 2 mins. i have to log out and come back.
[07:10] <akis> i log out and i am back just to check that the priviliges i gave to myself are working. efax runs normally and opens modem ports without any sudo command. so don't bother more. thank you for all your advices.
[07:12] <Smurphy> ok. Then it is fine.
[07:12] <Smurphy> FYI - what might have happened. The Group pertenance only changes after you log in again.
[07:12] <akis> now i have to check if can get faxes!
[07:12] <Smurphy> So that may have been your problem.
[07:12] <Smurphy> :}
[07:12] <Smurphy> Lol Yeah - you have to.
[07:12] <Smurphy> I don't have a fax machine. I use E-Mail + PDF - better quality :)
[07:13] <akis> email is the best, but as my this old notebook has an internal modem i wanted just to turn it working. just to be proud that i make it work!!!
[07:14] <akis> under linux. because its initial software was win XP.
[07:15] <ovell> helo
[07:15] <ovell> i  am  chinses
[07:15] <ovell>   i   need  frends
[07:15] <ovell> who  can  make  frends  with  me
[08:10] <spexi> Hi! I just happen to have fresh installation of Kubuntu and on other machine fresh installation of Windows 7. I would like to create shares on both machines, and so that both machines can see each other properly.
[08:10] <spexi> So, question 1) should I follow some tutorials I found and use GUI based ways to create shares, or would the command line ways be more effective? question 2) How much harder is (or is it?) creating the shares when there are not the same usernames on both machines? I assume that you don't have to have same users on both machines.
[08:12] <hateball> spexi: from kubuntu -> windows it's quite easy. you can set default username and such to be used for smb connections in the system settings
[08:13] <hateball> and then just browse to smb://your.win.machine/$share in dolphin. bookmark as needed
[08:14] <hateball> as for sharing over samba -> windows, I dunno if there's a nice GUI way these days...
[08:14] <hateball> !samba
[08:15] <spexi> thanks for good answer :)
[08:15] <hateball> There seems to be some free(as in beer) ways to mount sshfs in Windows
[08:16] <hateball> as well as using NFS, if one is so inclined
[08:16] <hateball> much easier than using samba IMO
[08:18] <spexi> hmm have to look at it
[08:22] <tsimpson> there's always samba if you're really stuck
[08:22] <tsimpson> not samba... apache!
[08:32] <hateball> spexi: obviously the easiest solution would be to set up a third machine, dedicated to running ownCloud ;D
[08:38] <spexi> hateball: hehe, okay :D
[08:38] <spexi> my flat full of computers
[08:38] <Smurphy> I'll be installing owncloud on my QNap Nas ... Should be fairly simple IMHO.
[08:59] <sora> who can tell me this problem ----
[08:59] <sora> Being queried irc.spotchat.org
[08:59] <sora> * Is connected to irc.spotchat.org (109.234.106.53) port 6667 ...
[08:59] <sora> * Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out
[08:59] <sora>  Jump to the next Linux Mint Server server ...
[08:59] <FloodBotK1> sora: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:59] <sora> * Disconnect ().
[10:25] <ncfi1013> hello?
[10:30] <Peace-> ncfi1013: hi
[10:31] <ncfi1013> i have a problem with the videodownloadhelper plugin for firefox...
[10:31] <ncfi1013> it doesnt convert properly
[10:32] <ncfi1013> i already have mencoder/ffmpeg installed
[10:32] <ncfi1013> still doesnt work
[10:32] <Peace-> ncfi1013: well it's ffmpeg issue
[10:32] <Peace-> ncfi1013: wait you need to install some extra package
[10:33] <ncfi1013> are they conflicting?
[10:33] <Peace-> ncfi1013: nope
[10:34] <Peace-> ncfi1013: it's just that because some codecs has some stupid lincenses and ubuntu can't shipt them ... so easly
[10:34] <ncfi1013> so what do i do...just uninstall ffmpeg?
[10:34] <Peace-> ncfi1013: they must be installed by users
[10:34] <Peace-> ncfi1013: nope
[10:34] <Peace-> ncfi1013: wait a moment
[10:35] <Peace-> ncfi1013: names can changes but only in the numbers  ..... sudo apt-get install libavfilter-extra-2 libavcodec-extra-53 libavformat-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51 libavdevice-extra-53 libswscale-extra-2
[10:36] <Peace-> ncfi1013: so sudo apt-get install libavfilter-extra nad press TAB
[10:40] <Peace-> !ffmpeg
[10:49] <ncfi1013> !ffmpeg
[10:49] <ncfi1013> nevermind that
[10:57] <ncfi1013> peace...im a little concerned...ive uninstalled packages before and replaced them with better ones...and then my computer became inoperable...and crashed...
[11:00] <hateball> Doesnt sound like they're better if they broke your computer
[11:00] <ncfi1013> no the problem was uninstalling old software
[11:01] <ncfi1013> not installing new stuff
 what does pressing tab do?
[11:04] <ncfi1013> after doing this: sudo apt-get install libavfilter-extra
[11:05] <hateball> !tab
[11:08] <ncfi1013> thanks...i appreciate all your help...
[11:15] <spexi> I have frozen Konsole and Dolphin window, can't kill them either in command line or with system monitor. Is the only way to reboot?
[11:15] <spexi> It asks "are you sure you want to kill this process" but it still keeps being there
[11:16] <hateball> spexi: I guess you could try reloading plasma, that might help
[11:18] <avihay> spexi: they are probably ignoring the default signal (kill, I think), there's another signal you can send them (terminate, I think)
[11:20] <avihay> you can do it from system monitor, by right-clicking the program and using the send signal sub-menu, or when you send a kill and it fails, it usually adds a force kill )shift-del) menu entry
[11:21] <spexi> well, nothing happens
[11:21] <spexi> and I can't restart plasma via command line
[11:21] <avihay> or by suppling a signal parameter to kill (look it up in man) or in top, it askes you what signal number to send. you'd want to send 7 or 9, I think
[11:21] <spexi> because new konsole windows won't start anyway
[11:21] <avihay> you can use a text terminal
[11:23] <avihay> use ctrl+alt+Fx to swithc to a terminal from a graphical terminal, log in, do your thing (I recommand top), and use alt+Fx to switch to a terminal from a textual terminal
[11:23] <avihay> the default graphical terminal is number 7 by default
[11:23] <avihay> so alt+f7 to return to that
[11:24] <spexi> well, I have only 'konsole' for a terminal program, and I can't switch from that to any other, because I can't start one anymore. because konsole is frozen. and pressingt ctrl+alt+f7 or alt+f7 does nothing :(
[11:25] <tsimpson> press Ctrl-Alt-F1 first, then Alt-F7 to get back
[11:25] <avihay> press ctrl+alt+f1, log in, run top or use kill and alt+f7 to come back to the graphical environment
[11:25] <spexi> aa, nice
[11:26] <spexi> but no, still the frozen konsole there
[11:26] <avihay> you know the konsole PID?
[11:27] <spexi> yeah, and tried kill -9 8072
[11:27] <hateball> maybe it has a zombie
[11:27] <avihay> I think you need to use kill --sig=SIGTERM or somth like that
[11:27] <avihay> try top
[11:27] <tsimpson> try with xkill
[11:28] <tsimpson> it should be bound to Ctrl-Alt-Esc, but if not just run "DISPLAY=:0 xkill" somewhere, then you click on the window
[11:28] <avihay> in top type k enter 9072 enter 9    or replace the last 9 with 7
[11:28] <avihay> err 8072             ^
[11:30] <spexi> oh :D accidentally clicked desktop topp with ctrl-alt-esc
[11:30] <spexi> so plasma turned off too
[11:31] <spexi> and yes, I could close the windows with that, but processes still are there
[11:31] <spexi> how to start plasma again? :D
[11:31] <spexi> or bring it back again
[11:31] <hateball> plasma-desktop &
[11:32] <spexi> just error messages.. i'm gonna think that's just easier to reboot this
[11:32] <avihay> if you can alt-f2 to get krunner, then ^
[11:33] <spexi> well now the desktop is there
[11:33] <spexi> but yeah, still the konsole and dolphin processes are there, can't get rid of them
[11:33] <avihay> did you try killing them with top?
[11:34] <avihay> or in ksysgurd/systerm monitor by sending them signals?
[11:35] <hateball> "ps aux |grep Z" should show if you have any zombies to get rid of
[11:36] <spexi> well now the desktop isn't answering to any clicks
[11:36] <spexi> And all this started, because I downloaded smb4k and tried to run it
[11:36] <avihay> :->
[11:39] <spexi> well, that was random.
[11:39] <hateball> ;d
[11:39] <hateball> I remember pulling in smb4k and swiftly removing it. After cursing a bit.
[11:41] <spexi> I can access windows share from kubuntu and mount it to /media, but I tried then to access kubuntu share from win7. it asks credentials and I try those with which I logon to kubuntu
[11:41] <spexi> says they're wrong
[11:41] <spexi> so I tried if the graphical samba gui could help :D
[11:44] <hateball> well you need to set up all sorts of things for samba :|
[11:44] <hateball> easier to set up nfs, pretty much one line of config, then use nfs client for windows
[11:46] <spexi> hmm okay
[11:46] <spexi> I had ubuntu earlier, I was able to map a network drive. so back then I have done something right :D but now it seems so hard
[11:46] <spexi> maybe I give a look for nfs
[11:48] <hateball> if you just need to transfer stuff I'd use ssh
[11:48] <tsimpson> samba has a different authentication system, see man 8 smbpasswd
[11:49] <tsimpson> (samba/smb/cifs is horrifically complex)
[11:49] <hateball> a quick google suggest there is this for Windows http://code.google.com/p/win-sshfs/
[11:50] <hateball> (I have not tried it)
[11:51] <hateball> or use apache and webdav ;d
[11:54] <spexi> well I don't even now need so much sharing from linux to windows, I'm just trying different stuff. Maybe some day would be nice to have a server, where is all of the audio and video, and every other computer may connect to that. Then it should be handy if sharing works fine and with mapping networkd drives
[11:54] <spexi> easier that way, than for example just ssh
[11:55] <tsimpson> for just audio/video, you can just install a media server (UPnP) and it'll tend to just work
[11:55] <tsimpson> I have mediatomb installed on my desktop, and use it to stream all my media to various devices over LAN
[11:56] <tsimpson> even works from windows with windows media player
[11:56] <spexi> okay, that sound good
[11:56] <spexi> sounds*
[11:56] <hateball> ownCloud is sweet for that
[11:56] <hateball> you should really check that out, if you plan on setting up a server
[11:57] <spexi> yeah, have to remember that
[12:43] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:22] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> i have a questio
[13:23] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> probably it is no directly related to kubuntu or kde
[13:23] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> after upgrading to new version 12.04
[13:23] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> my laptop suffering from backlight problem
[13:24] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> right after the boot, i need to increase the backlight manually by pressing fn+up
[13:24] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> do we have a solution for this problem?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> noMoreMrNiceGuy, open system settings>additonal drivers , if any available enable the recommended one
[13:26] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> there is no additional drivers in system settings
[13:28] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> BluesKaj: there is no such a thing there? where is it?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> noMoreMrNiceGuy, then you don't have any additional drivers available , unfortunately , if it's an intel gpu then most likely not
[13:30] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> well yes it is intel
[13:30] <designbybeck> noMoreMrNiceGuy:  and BluesKaj might there be something in the BIOS that can be set manually there that might keep it bright?
[13:30] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> i think kernel3.xxx has this
[13:31] <BluesKaj> designbybeck, i don't know
[13:31] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> i never checked the bios... actually good idea... i can check
[13:31] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> but you know just previous version of kernel, i mean 2.xxx was running properly.
[14:03] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[14:33] <Motrak> what could be wrong on tilp if it doesn't show any folders and terminal says this : (tilp:2761): ticables-WARNING **: usb_bulk_write (error submitting URB: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden).
[14:33] <Motrak> (tilp:2761): ticables-WARNING **: usb_clear_halt (could not clear/halt ep 2: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden).
[15:06] <madison> Hello there, again :)
[15:07] <madison> kubuntu doesn't like my USB speakers for a few days now
[15:07] <madison> Everything worked fine, then after an update, there was no sound
[15:08] <madison> kubuntu detects my speakers and I can select them, but I don't hear anything....but for the headphones it works
[15:08] <BluesKaj> madison, install pavucontrol  , then you can setup your inputs and output options on it
[15:12] <Santiclause> Hey, how can I simulate an opening of the kickoff menu? I'm trying to open it from within a script.
[15:14] <madison> Well....PulseAudio shows that there is sound, but I don't hear anything...
[15:17] <madison> No sound....
[15:20] <madison> hmm....testing it with windows
[15:20] <madison> cya :D
[16:05] <usuario4> holaa
[16:19] <cest_michel> Hi!
[16:51] <valentin> lol hi
[16:51] <valentin> mozeufockeu
[19:35] <Santiclause> Still wondering how to open the kickoff launcher from inside a script or somethin'! =D
[20:00] <lordievader> Santiclause: A work around could be to use xdotool to manipulate the mouse.
[20:00] <Santiclause> what I'm trying to do is capture Meta key presses in a script to try to emulate windows behaviour
[20:00] <Santiclause> i.e if you press just the meta key without using it as a modifier for another key, open the launcher
[20:05] <lordievader> Santiclause: I have wondered about that myself, never found the solution.
[20:06] <Santiclause> I'm able to capture the key presses just fine
[20:06] <Santiclause> I'm using udevadm to find the keyboard devices and then reading directly from them
[20:07] <Santiclause> I just don't know how to actually toggle the kickoff launcher
[20:07] <lordievader> Santiclause: And you can link a script to it?
[20:07] <Santiclause> to what, udevadm?
[20:07] <lordievader> Santiclause: Yes, to the meta (super) key.
[20:07] <Santiclause> oh yeah
[20:08] <Santiclause> the key code for it is 125 for left meta and 126 for right meta
[20:08] <lordievader> Santiclause: Oh, hey that is quite nice. Then you can have the menu display for the meta+m key combo, and have a script press the "m" for you, while you press meta.
[20:08] <Santiclause> well...
[20:08] <Santiclause> I want it to emulate windows behaviour
[20:09] <Santiclause> which is, it only displays it if you press meta and then release meta
[20:09] <Santiclause> without pressing anything else
[20:10] <lordievader> Santiclause: Let me get this straight, what you want is to press the meta key and to get the menu to show up, right?
[20:10] <Santiclause> yeah
[20:10] <Santiclause> once I release the meta key
[20:10] <Santiclause> specific sequence of events: press meta, release meta, menu pops up
[20:10] <Santiclause> if I were to, say, press meta, press e, release meta
[20:11] <Santiclause> then menu should not pop up, because I pressed something in between pressing and releasing meta
[20:11] <lordievader> Santiclause: What are the udev rules you use for that?
[20:11] <Santiclause> th...
[20:11] <Santiclause> I don't know anything about udev x_x
[20:11] <Santiclause> I'm literally reading directly from the devices
[20:11] <Santiclause> with linux/input.h
[20:11] <lordievader> Santiclause: Ah I though you used the udev...
[20:11] <Santiclause> I just used udevadm because it was the only tool I could find to actually find the keyboard devices
[20:11] <Santiclause> I didn't know how to iterate through the devices in /dev/input/ and only choose the keyboards
[20:14] <lordievader> Santiclause: This might be interesting: http://askubuntu.com/questions/177489/how-to-set-keyboard-shortcut-to-meta-in-kubuntu
[20:14] <Santiclause> Is that the one that disables the ability to use meta as a modifier?
[20:15] <Santiclause> ah yeah, it is
[20:16] <paco_> hola
[20:16] <lordievader> Hey paco_, how are you?
[20:28] <lakosta> ок
[20:29] <lordievader> Santiclause: Yes unfortunately it does...
[20:29] <Santiclause> yeh
[20:29] <Santiclause> well
[20:29] <Santiclause> my solution would work if I could just figure out how to toggle the kickoff launcher :|
[20:31] <lordievader> Santiclause: Wait maybe I know, you can run scripts right? Is that under your own user?
[20:32] <Santiclause> I actually have to use root to read the input device
[20:33] <lordievader> Santiclause: Ok, well as long as you can run commands as your own user, you could set the menu toggle to some unused F# key, and then have the script run "xdotool key F#".
[20:33] <Santiclause> Ah
[20:33] <lordievader> Santiclause: Note, xdotool is not standardly installed
[20:33] <Santiclause> would "xdotool key F#" simulate a keypress?
[20:34] <lordievader> Santiclause: For example "xdotool key F12" would simulate a keypress of F12.
[20:34] <lordievader> Santiclause: So, yes.
[22:10] <rottingdead> Hmm, wasn't it apt-get -s some_package?  It's saying E: Invalid operation mplayer..  Just trying to do a search for mplayer package.
[22:11] <rottingdead> I looked in manpage, and it says -s for search, but it gave that error.
[22:11] <tsimpson> no, -s is for simulate
[22:11] <tsimpson> what manpage are you looking at?
[22:11] <rottingdead> tsimpson: man apt-get
[22:11] <tsimpson> "-s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act"
[22:12] <rottingdead> tsimpson: apt-get as you know is Kubuntu's command line package manager..
[22:12] <tsimpson> I know what it is, and you don't search for packages with it
[22:12] <tsimpson> you should use "apt-cache search <something>"
[22:12] <rottingdead> tsimpson: Oooooh, what's the command?  Ooooh, thanks.
[22:13] <rottingdead> tsimpson: Eeeeerm, anyway to slim down this list, as in grep ?
[22:13] <spexi> I have always why apt-get just cant include search
[22:13] <spexi> install, update, upgrade, but not search
[22:13] <rottingdead> tsimpson: Guess I can run apt-cache search |  grep "mplayer" But might not work.
[22:13] <tsimpson> spexi: the clue is in the name apt-GET, not apt-PLEASE-SEARCH-FOR-ME ;)
[22:14] <darren> Hello everyone.
[22:14] <spexi> yeah that i see :D
[22:14] <rottingdead> I didn't read entire manpage, just skipped to apt-get's options..
[22:14] <tsimpson> rottingdead: you can pass the -n option to search only package names
[22:15] <rottingdead> tsimpson: Thanks, I'm assumig I can put n next to s as in -sn, no?
[22:15] <tsimpson> "apt-cache -n search mplayer" narrows it down to 19 for me
[22:15] <tsimpson> sure, but you don't need or want -s
[22:16] <rottingdead> tsimpson: Lol, sorry, still have -s on the mind,=P.
[22:16] <rottingdead> tsimpson: Yeah, I got a few.
[22:17] <rottingdead> Anwyho, brb, updates have finished, and it wants a reboot.
[22:51] <gediel> hi!
[23:24] <rjgonzale> please excuse me, I am not sure this is the right place to ask this....I installed 12.10 today to test it, updated it using muon....and not the list of possible sessions in lightdm is empty
[23:25] <rjgonzale> anything I can do to test it without installing 12.04?
[23:35] <avihay> maybe that's more of a question for #ubuntu+1 rjgonzale