[06:39] <wxl> ok here's a stumper. eeepc touchpad freezes up and/or acts funky after high cpu load. what fixes it? switching to VT and back. openbox --restart does NOT. any clues?
[06:39] <bioterror> add w to the name after eee ;)
[06:41] <wxl> :)
[06:41] <bioterror> they are really quite a pita
[06:41] <wxl> i was hoping to connect enough data to file a resaonable bug report but that's just weird behavior
[06:42] <bioterror> if you restart Xorg, does it help?
[06:42] <wxl> i'll try that next time
[06:42] <wxl> i find it hard to replicate the required conditions
[06:44] <wxl> c-a-backspace?
[06:44] <bioterror> for example
[06:44] <bioterror> or restart lightdm
[06:45] <wxl> ko
[06:52] <bioterror> probably it is Xorg bug
[06:53] <wxl> when it comes to touchpad's it appears there are like 34623586286387263587642 possible packages to file the bug against, but yeah, sure.
[06:53] <wxl> ;)
[06:55] <bioterror> xf86-input-synaptics
[06:55] <bioterror> maybe that
[06:56] <wxl> there's a whole page about it with like lots of stern warnings about you better get all the right info and make sure you're filing it against the right package or everyone will laugh at you XD
[07:07] <silverarrow> wxl, is it pangolin or quantal
[07:07] <silverarrow> ?
[07:07] <wxl> precise silverarrow
[07:08] <silverarrow> rumors have it, it xorg gets worse in quantal
[07:09] <wxl> we'll see
[07:09] <silverarrow> chances are they will fix it all fine
[07:09] <silverarrow> but we need to get the right guys useful info
[07:13] <silverarrow> wxl, what findings have you done?
[07:13] <wxl> none yet
[07:13] <wxl> trying to shrink the darn isi
[07:13] <silverarrow> I see
[07:13] <wxl> iso
[07:13] <silverarrow> oh, yes I remember
[07:14] <wxl> ironically all of the instructions are for linux and not os x so i'm trying to translatre
[07:14]  * wxl moves to -offtopic
[08:46] <Ascavasaion> Hello there... what security is the best for my Wireless ADSL modem/router?
[09:32] <Adel> hello
[09:32] <Adel> can any1 give me some help with my lubuntu software center?
[09:38] <leszek> hi
[09:40] <Adel> hi
[13:40] <Guest37383> Hello
[13:41] <Guest37383> I have a suggestion to the development of Lubuntu
[13:42] <Guest37383> I set my Lubuntu settings to not ask me for my password when starting up. It doesn't do so. But (I'm using Lubuntu on my laptop) whenever I close my computer screen...
[13:45] <Guest37383> ...and open it up again later to use it again, it asks me for my password to log in. This is unnecessary as one can just shut the computer off and turn it on again, therefore entering the computer without any password (as that's what I set it to do). So I don't think it needs to ask you for your password when you close the screen and open it again unless you specify.
[13:45] <Guest37383> I hope that helps some! Lubuntu is awesome! And thank you all for making it possible! I'm enjoying using it very, VERY much!
[13:46] <bioterror> that's becouse XScreensaver does it
[13:46] <bioterror> it has nothing to do with logon
[13:46] <Guest37383> Oh, is that another setting?
[13:46] <bioterror> yes
[13:46] <bioterror> screensaver settings
[13:46] <Guest37383> Where would I find that?
[13:46] <Guest37383> Aha! Thank you!
[13:46] <Guest37383> I appreciate it!
[13:47] <bioterror> ask password after resume, or something like that
[14:11] <sirdrake> salve a tutti
[14:12] <sirdrake> mi potreste aiutare???
[14:12] <sirdrake> dovrei cambiare icone
[14:13] <AngelForget> devi parlare in inglese sirdrake
[14:16] <sirdrake> ok
[14:16] <AngelForget> sirdrake, qualeè il problema ?
[14:16] <sirdrake> I want to change my icons
[14:17] <AngelForget> dai uno sguardo su lubuntu blog
[14:17] <sirdrake> ma è necessario parlare inglese??
[14:17] <AngelForget> e troverai tutta la procedura sirdrake
[14:18] <AngelForget> io sono italiano ma in questo chan si
[14:18] <sirdrake> posso contanttarti in rpivato
[14:19] <sirdrake> avrei delle domande da farti se hai un po' di tempo
[14:19] <AngelForget> certo
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, is there an lxpanel item I can add to make the panel act like Win7 etc? I currently have the icons at 40px and icon only so running apps have a nice big icon but when they are closed they do not stay
[17:41] <wxl> can't say i 100% grok what you want to do ActionParsnip
[17:42] <wxl> maybe a dock might be something to look into
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Like pinning the app to the lxpanel, so that when it is closed, the icon stays and future instances of the same application can be started from the icon
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> wxl: yeah was thinking that, the placing thing is nice and i wanted to avoid crappy compiz
[17:43] <wxl> well i certainly didn't say compiz ewww ac
[17:43] <wxl> oops forgot a tab there. you know who i meant XD
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> aye
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> oh btw are wbar and simdock dead?
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> they don't seem to have been updated recently....
[17:43]  * wxl shrugs
[17:44] <wxl> plank looks kind of nice
[17:45] <wxl> or there's docky but i think that's the wrong os copy XD
[17:45] <bioterror> haha
[17:46] <bioterror> you're asking quite a lot from DE that lightweight
[17:46] <wxl> did i forget to add the <sarcasm> tag?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> bioterror: not really, just hold the icon on the panel even when it's not running
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> bioterror: nothing CPU intensive there at all
[17:47] <bioterror> you can add launcher icons?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> bioterror: its not the DE either, its the lxpanel
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> bioterror: yes but it loads a new instance of the icon
[17:47] <wxl> i know what he's asking now bioterror
[17:48] <bioterror> install somekind of stupid dock
[17:48] <bioterror> or KDE like I did :D
[17:48] <wxl> yep
[17:48] <wxl> EWWWW and you complain at him? sheesh
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> bioterror: why would holding an icon for a non-running application be hard for a lightweight DE, even though it's not the DE that manages the panel, the panel manages the panel
[17:48] <wxl> ;)
[17:48] <bioterror> http://ricecows.org/kubuntu/kubuntu-dirty.png
[17:48] <bioterror> looks like that
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> bioterror: can you explain your 'haha' comment please? It interests me
[17:49] <bioterror> ActionParsnip, people always demands so much
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> bioterror: its not that much really
[17:49] <bioterror> actually it is
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> when I close the app, keep the icons there if I choose to 'pin' it. Don't remove the icon
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> if an instance of the app is ran, don't draw another
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> bioterror: how is that complex, its actually reducing work drawing new icons after some simple logic
[17:51] <bioterror> if you know that, code a lxpanel fork ;)
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> bioterror: but how is it hard / much?
[17:53] <bioterror> it should probably show somekind of image of the open applications if there's a multiple instance
[17:55] <bioterror> why dont you take just plain openbox and install cairo dock or something like that
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> does cairo dock need compositing?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> trying plank now :)
[17:57] <bioterror> windows 7 taskbar looks quite fugly without Aero
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> looks like plank is the ticket, just needs tweaking
[17:58] <bioterror> I'm living large with the tint2-svn
[17:59] <bioterror> works nicely with twinview
[18:03] <bioterror> ahh
[18:03] <bioterror> plank is part of elementary
[18:03] <bioterror> they ditched the Postler
[18:03] <bioterror> but Geary seems interesting
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Let me check it out :)
[21:25] <iToast> hey
[21:25] <iToast> whats the minimal requirements for lubuntu
[21:26] <wxl> iToast: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System_Requirements
[21:28] <iToast> wxl, not exactly helpful.
[21:28] <wxl> iToast: how so?
[21:28] <iToast> It doesn't give me exact minimals
[21:28] <iToast> im also in #xubuntu
[21:28] <iToast> 128mb no GUI 256 GUI
[21:28] <iToast> Im installing ubuntu for a XBMC build for my mom
[21:29] <wxl> you can run with a gui on 128
[21:29] <iToast> wxl, not really...
[21:29] <iToast> I've tried it...
[21:29] <iToast> Gnome / KDE die horribly in 127
[21:29] <iToast> 128*
[21:29]  * wxl shrugs, so have i.
[21:29] <wxl> there's no gnome/kde in lubuntu
[21:29] <iToast> LDE works perfectly :P
[21:29] <iToast> wxl, I know
[21:29] <iToast> I used normal ubuntu and im sick of their irc channel
[21:29] <wxl> ok, well, when you figure out your question, let me know XD
[21:30] <iToast> Im banend for having a oppinion.
[21:30] <iToast> Apperently thinking somone should try and look up a problem first isn't allowed
[21:30] <iToast> then the admin went to twist the story into this:
[21:30] <iToast> "You kept repeating "Google it" after being told not to."
[21:31] <iToast> What I actually said, "You should google first" then I answered his question with "Lynx"
[21:31] <iToast> A text based brwosner
[21:31] <iToast> ANd the lazy dick sent me to the IIRC -_-
[21:31] <iToast> Still he think's he did no wrong and never does wrong.
[21:31] <iToast> In his eyes he can't do wrong. Multiple others agree.
[21:31] <wxl> well, that's all fine and dandy, but i can't help you resolve how people have wrong you in the past
[21:32] <iToast> wxl, I know.
[21:32] <iToast> wxl, can't I just install a simple window manager and use XBMC?
[21:32] <wxl> i can, however, point out that you're not going to fare well here or any canonical-related channel making using out of that aforementioned language
[21:32] <iToast> The intigrated graphics are from, 2005~ they're probably intel / nvidia.
[21:32] <iToast> Amazingly they can handle HD just fine (30 FPS)
[21:33] <wxl> i've never used xmbc before
[21:33] <wxl> you might want to ask the xmbc folks
[21:33] <iToast> xbmc*
[21:33] <wxl> see?
[21:33] <wxl> :)
[21:34] <iToast> lo9l
[21:34] <iToast> This channel is alot nicer then #ubuntu :)
[21:34] <iToast> Actually usefull people :P
[21:34] <wxl> to the first one: maybe. the latter one, really? :)
[21:34] <iToast> Yes to the later one
[21:35] <iToast> #ubuntu has 2000~ people who never heard of google...
[21:35] <iToast> or the guide to googling
[21:35] <iToast> or how to google...
[21:35] <iToast> or the query guide
[21:35] <iToast> or man pages...
[21:35] <iToast> Somehow people managed to completely find no relevant information using GOOGLE!
[21:36] <wxl> it appears that this is what you need http://www.loggn.de/ubuntu-xbmc-repository-11-eden-airplay-pvr-livetv/
[21:37] <wxl> not sure what all the dependencies are tho
[21:37] <wxl> assumedly you need x, right?
[21:37] <iToast> Yes
[21:38] <iToast> I dont want a full blown desktop that'l NEVER be seen.
[21:39] <wxl> i dunno maybe you don't
[21:39] <wxl> https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/blob/master/docs/README.linux
[21:39] <wxl> here's what i'd do if i were you
[21:39] <wxl> do a minimal install
[21:39] <wxl> only install ubuntu-core/-standard
[21:39] <wxl> that's the most basic cli
[21:39] <wxl> then add the ppa and install the xbmc bits
[21:40] <wxl> if it needs to add stuff it will
[21:40] <wxl> if you see it wanting to add gnome and crap, cancel out and install lubuntu-core and then start over
[21:41] <wxl> or you could add your own x and all that but if you don't know what you're doing you might not enjoy it
[21:41] <wxl> more info on that process here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[21:41] <wxl> sound good, iToast ?
[21:41] <iToast> wxl, not really :p
[21:41] <wxl> whatcha missing?
[21:41] <iToast> I might just install ubuntu server 12.04
[21:41] <iToast> as i got it downloaded
[21:41] <iToast> then build on thjat
[21:41] <wxl> NO
[21:41] <wxl> DON"T DO IT
[21:41] <iToast> e.e
[21:41] <iToast> why?
[21:41] <wxl> unless you want a BUNCH OF GARBAGE YOU"LL NEVER USE
[21:41] <wxl> (probably never use)
[21:42] <wxl> hold on lemme demonstrate
[21:42] <wxl> you'll be shocked
[21:42] <iToast> ubuntu is pretty lean in the server distro... :P
[21:42] <wxl> that's what i once thought
[21:42] <wxl> take a look at the size of the download
[21:42] <wxl> here's everything included http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/ubuntu.precise/server-ship
[21:43] <iToast> none of its installed
[21:43] <iToast> if I dont want it
[21:43] <iToast> ;)
[21:43] <wxl> true, true
[21:43] <wxl> but core/standard will give you the leanest possible cli
[21:43] <wxl> this is all semantics
[21:43] <wxl> you decide what you want to do there
[21:43] <wxl> so once you have a core system you comfortable with the resT?
[21:45] <wxl> that ppa business is more or less copy/paste
[21:45] <wxl> and it will do the thinking for you re:dependencies
[21:45] <iToast> wxl, Ima use the server disk first.
[21:45] <wxl> cuz it's pulling down binaries not trying to build from source
[21:45] <wxl> you'll be fine
[21:45] <wxl> ping me if not
[21:45] <iToast> xubuntu just finished downloading,
[21:45] <iToast> Lol