[00:10] <TDJACR_> Gnome 3 is no longer a selectable option in Lightdb
[00:10] <TDJACR_> lightdm*
[00:11] <TDJACR_> It's there, but it can not be selected.
[09:31] <ironhalik> Hmm
[09:32] <ironhalik> Were any of the icons in the top panel changed lately? Or is it a bug?
[09:33] <ferni> yes, at leas the battery icon was broken yesterday.. and today messaging menu got some new icons and the battery was fixed
[09:36] <ironhalik> the messaging icon is a feature? :D
[09:38] <ironhalik> Oh well, I'll wait and see :>
[09:39] <vega-> what's wrong with it? seems ok here..
[09:40] <md_5> and the repo hashes broke
[09:40] <ironhalik> said md5
[09:40] <ironhalik> ;>
[09:40] <ironhalik> Dunno if my messaging icon is the same as rest, but its different the other icons
[09:44] <md_5> did anyone elses fonts break with todays updates?
[09:44] <md_5> Skype and a few other apps are looking very bold
[09:44] <md_5> .... 184mb of updates in less than 6h
[09:45] <md_5> also good call ironhalik
[09:46] <ironhalik> yeah, almost like if beta2 came out
[09:46] <ironhalik> brb, reboot
[10:08] <graingert_ufo> my messages indicator has gone missing, any way to bring it back?
[10:46] <vega-> no, it's gone forever, not even a reinstall will bring it back...
[10:46] <vega-> ;)
[11:14] <Hejbop> BluesKaj: Now i have working X again... i reinstalled. but this time with debian.
[11:15] <Hejbop> problem is that i can not get any newer kernel than 3.2 so my gfx card does not work properly over here either.
[11:15] <Hejbop> 3.2-10
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[11:19] <Hejbop> i do not have any free cd's and i have missplaced my LTS cd.
[11:19] <Hejbop> and on this computer installing from usb always means it puts grub on the usb... rather annoying
[11:34] <ironhalik> you can manually install and configure grub on you boot hdd
[11:34] <ironhalik> after the install
[11:34] <ironhalik> not sure if its the new battery icon ;D but my battery time seems to have increased lately :P
[11:42] <Hejbop> ironhalik: Increased as in terms of time expected is noticable as phoronix.com wrote the regressions in LTS has been fixed.
[11:43] <Hejbop> battery time when released was almost 33% less than it is now
[11:44] <Hejbop> even hardy heron (if supported hardware was used) had better power savings than 10.4
[11:44] <Hejbop> 12.4
[11:45] <Hejbop> go to phoronix and read about the tremendous improvement that the ubuntu team has done from 12.4 in terms of power savings
[11:46] <Hejbop> some of the techniques are unique to ubuntu only so far.
[11:57] <rye> anybody here uses thunderbird w/ html composing (or can switch to html composing for a test) - i see that Insert and Format menu entries (global menu) stop working as in unclickable
[12:06] <ferni> rye: hmm.. works for me
[12:09] <rye> ferni: 12.10, right?
[12:10] <rye> ferni: i am an idiot - menu entries are inactive when mouse cursor is not in the compose widget
[12:13] <ferni> :) and yes 12.10
[12:15] <ferni> ironhalik: oh just noticed that the battery discarding icon is indeed broken still.. well broken link in ubuntu-mono-dark status icons
[12:43] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:49] <Captain_Proton> anyone else have a problem with empathy and gtalk?
[12:49] <Captain_Proton> I have to remove an readd the account every day or it will not connect
[13:02] <jbicha> ferni: that should be fixed now, apply the latest updates and log out & back in to Unity
[13:20] <graingert_ufo> my messages indicator has gone missing, any way to bring it back?
[13:23] <jbicha> graingert_ufo: that indicator is now hidden by default, but it will show up once you set up an account with a service that uses it (Gwibber, Thunderbird, Empathy, etc)
[13:24] <graingert_ufo> I'm running empathy now
[13:24] <graingert_ufo> but it's not there
[13:24] <jbicha> have you tried logging out and logging back in?
[13:24] <jbicha> have you done a dist-upgrade without paying attention to what might be getting removed?
[13:26] <graingert_ufo> jbicha: no, I always read those
[13:26]  * graingert_ufo login/out ...
[13:34] <graingert_ufo> jbicha: nope
[13:35] <graingert_ufo> jbicha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216711/
[13:35] <jbicha> graingert_ufo: report a bug
[13:36] <graingert_ufo> is that how it's supposed to be run?
[13:36] <graingert_ufo> what happens on a known good system?
[13:45] <graingert_ufo> jbicha: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1053406
[14:43] <Daekdroom> Is there a way to limit an account in the Account Options to work for only one app instead of all those that it's available for?
[15:15] <thebishop> hey hey ho ho
[15:16] <thebishop> 0=brightness lcd panel at boot has got to go
[15:56] <bazhang> quantal seems to have kde4 4.9.1
[16:26] <trism> hellslinger: looks like the gnome3 ppa has it: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
[16:28] <hellslinger> thanks trism! I've been looking for this ppa
[16:30] <hellslinger> it's too bad 3.5.90 didn't make it in time for release, it's a huge upgrade
[16:31] <trism> hellslinger: I'm sure it'll be updated in R (though there was talk of trying a different file manager, but I kind of doubt we'll drop nautilus yet)
[16:33] <hellslinger> I'd be interested in finding out more about why the upgrade has been hindered, it seems that Nautilus has been stagnant for quite some time. The nautilus-elementary feud also had me wondering
[16:36] <hellslinger> is there a shortage of programmers or resources?
[16:36] <AnnyOne> Hi. How can CUDA be activated in Ubuntu 12.10 quantal?
[16:36] <jbicha> hellslinger: yes, we need someone to make those fancy new gear & view menus accessible from the HUD at least
[16:37] <jbicha> but it's enough after UI freeze & Feature Freeze that it seems very unlikely Nautilus 3.6 will land in Quantal now even if that is fixed this week
[16:38] <hellslinger> but it could eventually make it to the repos even if after release, right?
[16:41] <AnnyOne> Should I use the nvidia driver from within the distro (in submenu "additional drivers"), or should I uninstall all nvidia and nouveau stuff and manually install the latest driver from the nvidia website?
[16:42] <hellslinger> AnnyOne: it depends on your video card, really
[16:42] <hellslinger> AnnyOne: what card do you have?
[16:42] <AnnyOne> Gainward GTX460 GLH
[16:42] <AnnyOne> desktop, no notebook
[16:43] <hellslinger> nvidia-current would probably be the easiest and quickest
[16:43] <AnnyOne> Is it supposed to support CUDA too? Because I try using some programs that make use of CUDA, and right now all these programs fail at initializing CUDA.
[16:45] <hellslinger> good question, I'm going to see what I did for my card (it's been a while)
[16:46] <hellslinger> have you installed nvidia-current-dev and nvidia-updates-dev?
[16:47] <bobweaver> !info boinc-nvidia-cuda
[16:48] <bobweaver> maybe thrust also
[16:49] <bobweaver> has anyone here had troubles with bamf ?
[16:50] <AnnyOne> I thought this boinc and dev stuff is only needed for people who want to develop CUDA-programs themselves? Is it also needed to just RUN cuda-programs?
[16:50] <bobweaver> I am in dependency hell
[16:50] <genii-around> AnnyOne: Did your CUDA apps work under 12.04? I don't see a later version than for 11.04 at http://developer.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-downloads
[16:51] <bobweaver> AnnyOne,  I am not sure there is also #cuda
[16:51] <bobweaver> How to fix this ?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1217088/
[16:52] <trism> bobweaver: check apt-cache policy libbamf3-0 to see what ppa it is coming from
[16:52] <bobweaver> ok
[16:52] <bobweaver> thanks trism
[16:53] <bobweaver> Installed: 0.3.0+stagingbzr483ubuntu0+439
[16:53] <AnnyOne> Last linux I had was 10.04. There the programs worked like that: Uninstalled nouveau/nvidia-current, manually installed latest nvidia driver from nvidia-website (with kernel-headers recompile option). That driver supported running cuda programs out of the box, there was no need to install any dev- or boinc- modules.
[16:54] <bobweaver> trism,  I am trying to build the unity 6.6 that is in the stagging-future ppa , everytime that I make frame work om unity for ubuntu tv by the time I go to push it is a newer unity and my code don't work
[16:55] <bobweaver> so I figure If I use what is coming in the future maybe I will not spend 20 hours doing c++ for nothing
[16:57] <bobweaver> I should also say that I have unity 6.6 on system but I am sure that all the errors that I am getting I can fix if I can just get the dependency's correct
[16:59] <trism> bobweaver: the more interesting line from apt-cache policy is the one with the url to the ppa (although if this is just the unity staging ppa, I don't see a bamf build for quantal, so it may have been deleted and your apt cache may be out of date)
[17:01] <bobweaver> so update ? also I am looking in aynaptic and not seeing any bamf stuff there either I will pastebin the full out put of the policy
[17:02] <trism> bobweaver: it may be leftover from an earlier upgrade, but then deleted so you may need to manually revert to the quantal version before you can continue
[17:02] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1217118/
[17:02] <bobweaver> Oh I see
[17:02] <trism> bobweaver: yeah it is gone, try: sudo apt-get install libbamf3-0=0.3.0-0ubuntu2
[17:03] <bobweaver> ok
[17:03] <bobweaver>  bamfdaemon (= 0.3.0-0ubuntu2)   << dep heck
[17:04] <trism> bobweaver: yeah you'll need to do it for all the packages with 0.3.0+stagingbzr483ubuntu0+439 at least, dpkg -l | grep 0.3.0+stagingbzr483ubuntu0+439; then sudo apt-get install {package1,package2,package3}=0.3.0-0ubuntu2; (etc)
[17:04] <bobweaver> ok cool
[17:05] <bobweaver> thanks trism  you are one cool person !
[17:05] <trism> no prob bob
[17:19] <bobweaver> trism,  It WORKED !!
[17:19] <bobweaver> thanks again
[17:22] <bobweaver> -- Build files have been written to: /home/joseph/Desktop/unity_6.6-build
[17:22] <bobweaver> woot woot
[17:23] <trism> excellent!
[18:04] <trijntje> Hi all, I've lost windows from the grub menu. Running sudo os-prober && sudo update grub does not solve it
[18:13] <bobweaver> trijntje,  it is seen with  sudo fdisk -l ?
[18:13] <bobweaver> the partition that is
[18:14] <trijntje> bobweaver: yeah, the partition is still there
[18:14] <bobweaver> trijntje,  boot live cd and re-install grub
[18:14] <bobweaver> that would be the first thing that I would try
[18:15] <bobweaver> meaning re-install grub to the Ubuntu partition that you want '
[18:15] <bobweaver> then boot reg and then update-grub
[18:15] <trijntje> the problem is that I've installed with full disk encryption, so I'm a bit worried I'll mess things up
[18:15] <bobweaver> Ouch
[18:16] <bobweaver> yeah that is a pain , I am sure that someone with a higher pay grade then me will be able to help thou
[18:16] <trism> trijntje: might be interesting to check out /var/log/syslog after running sudo os-prober; see what the os-prober log messages are
[18:16] <bobweaver> trijntje,  all else fails maybe try BURG
[18:22] <bobweaver> what is GVFS mounting ?
[18:22] <trijntje> trism: I don't see any obvious errors: http://pastebin.com/nDLzV8jV
[18:22] <bobweaver> and why is it remote monitoring my system ?
[18:22] <trijntje> bobweaver: I think it mounts your encrypted home
[18:23] <bobweaver> that is the thing I have nothing encrypted
[18:25] <bobweaver> I am getting these weired errors
[18:25] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1217299/
[18:26] <trijntje> I dont know what that is, what program is that from?
[18:26] <bobweaver> Unity
[18:27] <bobweaver> I am bewildered at gvfs I know that it is a remote monitior tool for gnome but that is about all the info that I can get on it
[18:28] <bobweaver> not sure why anything needs to remote monitor things, At 1st I thought that it was like for developers but then I seen something real real real strange
[18:29] <bobweaver> so if you ls -al ~/ | grep .gvfs   as reg user it shows that you own it but drop to root and do it.
[18:29] <trism> trijntje: is the windows partition /dev/sda1? doesn't look like 20microsoft is detecting it, mine is followed by a line: 20microsoft: result: /dev/sda1:Microsoft Windows XP Professional:Windows:chain (which I don't see in your log)
[18:29] <bobweaver> of cource as root you must use /home/username/
[18:30] <TJ-> bobweaver: That's reporting a data structure format has changed so the client can't talk to the server correctly. The local and remote will be on the same machine, but communicating through some interface like DBus. It's to allow a privileged process (the remote server) to talk to a non-privileged (client)
[18:31]  * genii-around is suddenly reminded that Android_X86 is also invisible to os-prober
[18:31] <trijntje> trism: windows partition is /dev/sda2, sda1 is some weird recovery thing
[18:31] <trism> trijntje: same thing for that one, we get: 20microsoft: debug: /dev/sda2 is a NTFS partition but then nothing else
[18:33] <bobweaver> TJ-,  I don't like the idea that there is a daemon like that seems like it could end up being a valunerbility in the long run, Now I could be wrong and have been many many times. but damons running that are connected to outside servers. Is that Read only ? I am confused sorry
[18:34] <TJ-> bobweaver: the remote isn't outside, it's on the same system. The 'remote' comes from the programming concept of "Remote Procedure Calls" which all process separation, for enhanced security and other benefits
[18:34] <bobweaver> I am going to reboot and look around and see why that volume manager is not working
[18:34] <TJ-> s/all/allows/
[18:35] <bobweaver> Oh I see v.cool
[18:35] <bobweaver> thanks a ton TJ-
[18:35] <trijntje> trism: I see there was a grub update yesterday, I guess that broke something. I'll file a bug and hope it gets fixed
[18:36] <trijntje> no playing diablo III for me today I'm afraid ;)
[18:36] <TJ-> bobweaver: It can also be used for remote stuff if you configure it that way, it's a nice way for network-wide monitoring and administration, but it won't do that unless it's been set up
[18:40] <trism> trijntje: hey, I notice bug 1051306 , try mounting the partition and running sudo os-prober again
[18:41] <trijntje> trism: that worked, awesome!
[18:43] <trijntje> I'm off, thanks again trism
[19:37] <[4-tea-2]> Did anybody else switch their keyboard because they thought their Shift and CTRL keys were broken?
[19:38] <xut> hi, a recent update earlier on has blanked my screen upon login
[19:38] <xut> running 12.10 fully update on an asus 756 netbook
[19:47] <bobweaver> !! Yes I finally got a Unity 6.6 to build the way that I want it to look. now to use valkire and see what in the world is using up all this mem
[20:04] <[4-tea-2]> No danger there.
[20:15] <xut> using 12.10, when I boot up, the screen goes blank and can hear login noise
[20:15] <xut> i have to close lid to suspend laptop and open it again to be able to see the login screen
[20:15] <xut> anyone any ideas?
[20:20] <AnnyOne> Hi
[20:22] <AnnyOne> I installed gnome-shell about 2 weeks ago and in the beginning it went fine. But now, on the login screen I still see the selection of GNOME, GNOME Classic, GNOME Classic (no effects), Ubuntu Unity. But the first two options are not selectable anymore!!! Why??
[20:28] <jbicha> AnnyOne: bug 1052453
[20:32] <AnnyOne> Alright, thanks a lot
[21:42] <dupondje> (remmina:7571): Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'remmina' received an X Window System error.
[21:42] <dupondje> How to debug such thing?
[21:43] <dupondje> cause with gdb is stacktraces to the main thread
[22:25] <md_5> anyone else got messed up skype font?
[22:28] <dubac0> so whats happened to the minimise/close/thing in the new version of ubuntu?
[22:53] <dubac0> anyone???????????
[23:10] <dubac0> anyone???????????