[07:38]  * apw does not like the new colder world
[07:47] <smb> apw, Mabe prepares you for the next ice age to come
[07:47] <apw> maybe, cirtainly i need more clothes today
[07:49] <smb> Or turn on more hardware
[07:51] <apw> oh good idea, i could build some kernels
[10:37] <metaphysician> I want to try out Linux 3.5 on precise. How can I install it?
[11:32]  * cking wonders why iso.qa.ubuntu.com is so slooooow
[11:47] <siretart> ogasawara: I can confirm that aufs in the kernel upload from yesterdays works. at least I was finally able to deploy the first quantal machine today with fai and live-boot :-)
[12:23] <doko> apw, rtg, ogasawara: gcc 4.7.2 is there. no kernel related changes (a C++ fix, a LTO fix, a documentation fix). the only visible change for you is the version bump
[12:24] <apw> doko, thanks for the heads up
[12:24] <rtg> doko, we'll have one more upload before Beta 2 I think
[12:24] <doko> so it should be fine to upload now, if you update it again for the beta?
[12:24] <rtg> doko, yes
[12:24] <doko> ok
[12:44]  * henrix -> lunch
[13:08] <rtg> ogasawara, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/Meta-Pkgs is a whiz bang page :)
[13:08] <ogasawara> rtg: they teach you how to make pretty picture in management 101
[13:08] <rtg> :)
[13:12] <apw> ogasawara, what do you use for those flwo diagrams ?
[13:13] <ogasawara> apw: the google docs drawing
[13:13] <apw> ahh
[13:13] <cking> another ppoke in the eye for libreoffice
[13:21] <pstolowski> hello, is there any chance to get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1042213 into beta 2 or into Q final? I think the issue has been spotted and respective fix is identified in newer kernel, and it should be a matter of cherry picking it. I can test a candidate kernel if that helps.
[13:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1042213 in linux "[quantal] Kernel oops with NFS mount" [Medium,Confirmed]
[13:41] <ppisati> apw: do you use imap with mutt? and do you connect directly with the imap server? or do you use offlineimap?
[13:44] <apw> ppisati, yes i do, i use offlineimap as you say
[14:00] <ppisati> apw: mutt
[14:01] <ppisati> apw: 's imap implementation is quite crappy
[14:01] <ppisati> apw: it took me a bit to fine tune it
[14:01] <ppisati> apw: now it doesn't hang and gmail doesn't boot me out anymore
[14:01] <ppisati> apw: but still, browsing a mailbox could be a bit frustating still
[14:02] <ppisati> i'll give offlineimap a try
[14:02] <apw> ppisati, yeah i concur, i just use offlineimap it does a nice job
[14:05] <bjf> brendand, are you going to get precise testing wrapped up today?
[14:06] <brendand> bjf - most likely. or early tomorrow
[14:06] <bjf> brendand, today would be nice. we don't promote kernels to -updates on Fridays
[14:06] <brendand> bjf - ok, i'll put the gas on then
[14:07] <brendand> bjf - we are sprinting this week so bandwidth has been a bit lower, but it's mostly done
[14:47] <cking> apw, arges how about e08733446e72b983fed850fc5d8bd21b386feb29
[14:48] <arges> cking, this is interesting
[14:49] <arges> cking, this is already in natty i believe
[14:49] <cking> arges, yep, my mistake
[14:49] <arges> yes
[14:49] <arges> np. looked good
[15:50] <rtg> cking, have you watched http://linuxplumbers.ubicast.tv/videos/acpi-component-architecture-acpica/ yet ?
[15:50] <cking> funnily enough, I'm working through these, and this was on my list to watch this week
[15:51] <rtg> cking, so am I :)
[15:51] <cking> rtg, I was working through the slides on this 2 days ago, made me update fwts a bit 
[15:55] <MestreLion> guys, I need help. I'm trying to use a program to re-write the EDID data on my plasma 42" hdtv,  but i'm unable to access my I2C/SMBus programatically. There's no /dev/i2c* , no listing in i2cdetect, etc... any directions on how to troubleshoot it?
[15:56] <MestreLion> Some relevant info: motherboard Asus M4A89GTD (AMD 890 chipset), modprobe i2c-dev shows no output or errors, and I'm able to read the EDID fine using get-edid. What can I do? Any relevant log to look at?
[16:00] <sforshee> apw, 9ca8f72a9297f2052d806bd1111e176533aa69bd
[16:07] <ppisati> brb
[16:23] <rtg> ppisati, are you thinking about a rebase against more recent Quantal master ? there are some ecryptfs fixes (though I dunno if armhf uses it), plus at least one CVE patch. aufs is also enabled.
[16:26] <apw> MestreLion, i am not sure we offer any way to write to the EDID, there is some stuff in P onwards to allow you to replace the kernel idea of the EDID for KMS drivers though
[16:26] <apw> MestreLion, i don't exactly recall how to use it, the X guys should remember as they asked for it :)
[16:26] <apw> (#ubuntu-x)
[16:27] <MestreLion> apw: I already found a software that does that using python-smbus
[16:27] <MestreLion> the problem is neither python-smbus nor i2c-detect -l lists *any* i2c bus
[16:27] <MestreLion> and i don't have any /dev/i2c-*  file
[16:27] <apw> i don't think i am expecting to see the i2c interfaces on VGA ports exposed under KMS anyhow
[16:28] <apw> writing to your EDID sounds like a recipe for disaster though, do you need to change it
[16:28] <apw> or only to make you linux box think it says something different
[16:29] <MestreLion> apw: my plasma 42 hdtv keeps saying 50HZ is its preferred mode in all resolutions
[16:30] <apw> then you might 
[16:30] <apw> just be able to override its EDID rather than replace it on the device
[16:30] <MestreLion> so any fullscreen game, or app, or switching monitors in my dual-view makes the TV go back to 50Hz
[16:30] <MestreLion> yes, if I could spoof the EDID, that would be fine too... any directions?
[16:31] <apw> MestreLion, there is a place you can put overrides i believe, i forget how it works though.  i would ask on #ubuntu-x they should know as it was something they requested and presumably use
[16:33] <MestreLion> i'll give it a try, thanks!
[16:33] <MestreLion> but, still... isn't it odd not to have any i2c in /dev? is this normal?
[17:18] <ppisati> rtg: i'll do tomorrow
[17:18] <rtg> ppisati, ack
[17:34]  * rtg -> lunch
[17:47]  * henrix -> EOD
[18:13]  * smb -> EOD
[18:35] <rtg> apw, just posted on LKML this morning: [RFC] Second attempt at kernel secure boot support
[19:05] <rtg> apw, [PATCH 00/13] overlay filesystem: request for inclusion (v15)
[19:05] <apw> rtg thanks
[19:38]  * ogasawara lunch
[20:13] <kamal> rtg: do you have an ETA for the next quantal master version?
[20:13] <rtg> kamal, I think we'll have one final upload before B2
[20:14] <rtg> Tuesday at the latest
[20:14] <kamal> rtg: ok many days off yet -- I won't wait for it.  thanks
[20:22]  * rtg -> EOD