[07:24] <dpm> hi all
[07:24] <dpm> could someone confirm whether the "Battery" string on the power indicator appears untranslated?
[07:24] <dpm> on Quantal, that is
[07:58] <kelemengabor> dpm: it isn't
[07:58] <kelemengabor> it was split out into a new file: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/quantal/indicator-power/quantal/view/head:/src/device.c
[07:59] <kelemengabor> and it includes glib/gi18n.h, instead of glib/gi18n-lib.h
[08:01] <dpm> thanks kelemengabor, I've forwarded it to #ubuntu-desktop for someone to fix it
[08:01] <kelemengabor> oh, seems like we need to disable evo-indicator: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/evolution-indicator
[08:01] <kelemengabor> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/computer-janitor too
[08:03] <trijntje> kelemengabor: what about the other evolution templates, since it is no longer installed be default?
[08:03] <dpm> kelemengabor, good catches, do you want to do the disabling, or should I do it?
[08:03] <kelemengabor> as long as it is in main, stays
[08:04] <kelemengabor> dpm: I'm on it
[08:04] <dpm> excellent
[08:04]  * kelemengabor tries to remember, what other packages were removed during yesterdays updates
[08:05] <trijntje> I see, but the priority of evolutio is higher than some other packages that are installed by default
[08:06] <kelemengabor> now that's a problem :)
[08:12] <kelemengabor> evo-exchange and -webcal were dropped too
[08:12] <kelemengabor> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/evolution-exchange
[08:12] <kelemengabor> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/evolution-webcal
[08:15] <dpm> ok, after fixing all the infrastructure bits, I'm about to launch the stats site we used last cycle to show better stats and to point translators to the higher priority templates
[08:16] <kelemengabor> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/gnome-panel is moved to universe
[08:17]  * kelemengabor finally understands why did its translations disappear from UI
[08:19] <kelemengabor> oops, not. it uses X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack: yes
[08:19] <kelemengabor> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/quantal/gnome-panel/quantal/revision/226
[09:08] <dpm> kelemengabor, there seems to be a problem when exporting the  X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack .po files from LP to create langpacks. The .po files themselves are exported ok, but they are not listed in the mapping.txt file that lists the source package/domain association, so language-pack-o-matic ignores them.
[09:09] <kelemengabor> sounds pretty serious
[09:13] <dpm> Let me try to see if I can talk to an LP developer. I thought we only had Banshee using this, so we hardcoded an exception on langpack-o-matic
[09:37] <kelemengabor> actually, I have installed Banshee and it has no localization at all either (on Quantal)
[09:39] <kelemengabor> I mean UI localization, help is in place
[10:00] <dpm> kelemengabor, yeah, it won't come until the next full language pack
[10:01] <kelemengabor> of course. but if you had an exception for Banshee, it should already work, shouldn't it? yet it does not.
[11:06] <dpm> kelemengabor, we added the exception _after_ I noticed that banshee wasn't working :)
[11:30] <dpm> there, stats are working now: http://91.189.93.77/stats/quantal
[11:30] <dpm> historical data from the graphs was lost, unfortunately, but I'll start setting up backups
[11:35] <trijntje> Is it possible to change the order of strings in a .po file (keeping the original and translation together of course)? It would be nice to sort the order of package descriptions based on popcon
[11:52] <dpm> trijntje, changing the order of strings in a po file is currently not possible. To do it properly, it should probably be implemented at the gettext level (e.g. being able to attach priorities to strings). I'm not sure I can follow the second part of the question: which package descriptions?
[11:53] <trijntje> those that are shown in software center:https://translations.launchpad.net/ddtp-ubuntu/quantal/+pots/ddtp-ubuntu-universe
[11:56] <trijntje> these used to be translatable via nightmonkey, but due to a bug lp cannot search in large templates
[12:11] <dpm> trijntje, ah, yeah, I see what you mean. Changing the order of templates might be possible, if someone would be willing to come up with a list of priorities based on popcon
[12:14] <trijntje> dpm: yeah, I'm not sure do that. But if we would apply it to the original template it would fix the order for all languages, and take out the need for intermediate solutions like nightmonkey