| phawx | So, this might be a nubish question...figured this would be a good spot | 00:17 |
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| phawx | Im thinking about going back to Ubuntu from windows, but I tend to play WoW every so often...how's that run within Ubuntu and Wine? or is there a better alternative to Wine? | 00:19 |
| MarkDude | bkerensa, whats the deal with Puppet Labs? | 00:45 |
| * MarkDude asks due to upcoming Puppetconf in SF | 00:45 | |
| MarkDude | Other Fedorans have passes (unlike myself) | 00:45 |
| blkperl | bkerensa: if your looking at phpmyadmin your doing it wrong :) | 00:53 |
| bkerensa | blkperl: I usually use MySQL Workbench but either way PHPmyadmin is a fine product | 01:26 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: What do you mean? | 01:26 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: Maybe you should ask them for one but last time I checked they dont just give them out | 01:27 |
| bkerensa | Ubuntu California will be there | 01:27 |
| blkperl | bkerensa: if by fine product you mean insecure package that lives in universe with no support from the Ubuntu Security Team then yes it is a "fine insecure prodcut" | 01:29 |
| bkerensa | blkperl: that is not phpmyadmin's fault it is purely a lack of enough volunteers to maintain it | 01:29 |
| bkerensa | phpmyadmin ships on tens if not hundreds of thousands of servers worldwide | 01:30 |
| blkperl | right and on the all the ubuntu installs there multiple CVE's that can be exploited | 01:30 |
| bkerensa | blkperl: generally phpmyadmin is not popular on Ubuntu servers | 01:31 |
| blkperl | did you have data to back that claim up? :) | 01:31 |
| bkerensa | one of the reasons that cPanel will not support Debian or Ubuntu is because many of the packages necessary for cPanel/WHM are not maintained | 01:31 |
| bkerensa | blkperl: sure | 01:31 |
| bkerensa | Ever cpanel server in the world has phpmyadmin | 01:32 |
| bkerensa | cpanel is only supported on RHEL and CentOS | 01:32 |
| bkerensa | there are undoubtedly more RHEL based servers running phpmyadmin as a result of that then Ubuntu | 01:32 |
| bkerensa | blkperl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhpMyAdmin | 01:34 |
| bkerensa | Phpmyadmin was at one point one of the most popular php applications | 01:34 |
| MarkDude | bkerensa, - no I dont want to get a pass, I just have heard you say good things about them. | 01:36 |
| * MarkDude thinks it would be worth his time to crash a social event for it | 01:36 | |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: they are a good company | 01:36 |
| bkerensa | they do a lot of great work in the open source and startup scene and I enjoy working with them | 01:37 |
| MarkDude | When are you coming down this way? | 01:37 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: Not till next year | 01:39 |
| MarkDude | Small chance I may travel up that way | 01:40 |
| MarkDude | Any conferences I can use as an excuse? | 01:40 |
| bkerensa | uhh idk :) using conferences as an excuse for free travel and vacation on Fedora's dime isnt cool though ;p | 01:43 |
| MarkDude | Disagree. | 01:46 |
| MarkDude | It is the ultimate in cool. | 01:47 |
| * MarkDude proposes idea, group decides if it is worth the money, and voting sorta happens | 01:47 | |
| MarkDude | If they were to go for all of my ideas, then it might not be cool, - I assure there is oversight. | 01:48 |
| cy1 | I need an email auto-responder... | 19:11 |
| cy1 | where you email it with a PGP key ID and it emails you back an informational text, including the public key. | 19:11 |
| cy1 | Or whatever. | 19:11 |
| bkerensa | make one | 19:11 |
| bkerensa | :P | 19:11 |
| blkperl | bkerensa: does the server have an idrac? | 19:13 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: ^ | 19:13 |
| bkerensa | blkperl: it is possible I believe it was an option for the 1950 but I didnt specifically look... nathwill has the box and would have to check | 19:15 |
| bkerensa | a DRAC would be nice | 19:15 |
| nathwill | eh? | 19:17 |
| nathwill | i don't know offhand if it's got a drac. i'll check it tonite | 19:19 |
| cy1 | bkerensa: yeah, that takes a server though... I don't got one of those. | 19:20 |
| cy1 | I did make such a responder once. Let's see if I can pull up the code... | 19:21 |
| cy1 | ahaha it's in C no less | 19:22 |
| bkerensa | cy1: it does not you could setup a mail server on your laptop | 19:37 |
| cy1 | bkerensa: yeah, but the ISP says they don't allow servers. | 19:37 |
| bkerensa | cy1: psh | 19:38 |
| bkerensa | cy1: what ISP? | 19:38 |
| cy1 | bkerensa: Frontier | 19:38 |
| bkerensa | lol | 19:38 |
| bkerensa | so does Comcast | 19:38 |
| cy1 | Yeah. | 19:38 |
| cy1 | And Verizon. | 19:38 |
| cy1 | And AT&T, and | 19:38 |
| cy1 | Cox | 19:38 |
| nathwill | any isp that serves residential | 19:38 |
| cy1 | uh... | 19:38 |
| cy1 | don't know any others | 19:38 |
| bkerensa | yeah but people do it all day long | 19:38 |
| cy1 | nathwill: residential is a filthy epithet! | 19:39 |
| nathwill | cy1, i concur | 19:39 |
| nathwill | so is client/server | 19:39 |
| cy1 | <3 | 19:39 |
| cy1 | p2p4evr | 19:39 |
| nathwill | long live the network of peers | 19:39 |
| cy1 | I just hope cjdns takes off... it brings the p2p back into Internets. | 19:40 |
| nathwill | i think mobile-powered mesh networking is the next big jump | 19:43 |
| cy1 | Well, small assist at least. You can't beat the power of big fat underground cables. | 19:43 |
| nathwill | true dat. hard to visit europe-based sites without leaving mobile | 19:44 |
| nathwill | not without waiting a few weeks | 19:44 |
| cy1 | Just got to keep goons from squatting on 'em and charging a premium toll or they beat us up. | 19:46 |
| cy1 | Sorry, I mean gotta keep totally legitimate service providers from accidentally instituting anti-server data policies that might inadvertently force people to be blind consumers, totally on accident. | 19:47 |
| cy1 | will someone please shoot me | 20:34 |
| cy1 | I edited a patch file in emacs, and it stripped all trailing whitespace, invalidating the patch. | 20:34 |
| cy1 | instead of copying the ~ backup to the patch file via cp, I edited the ~ backup in emacs, then saved it to the patch file. Stripping all trailing whitespace, overwriting the backup, invalidating the patch. | 20:35 |
| nathwill | doh | 20:43 |
| nathwill | *cough* vim *cough* | 20:43 |
| cy1 | thank goodness for git am --ignore-whitespace | 20:43 |
| cy1 | nathwill: actually I told emacs to delete trailing whitespace all by myself in ~/.emacs ... | 20:44 |
| cy1 | so | 20:44 |
| cy1 | now I told emacs not to do so in diff-mode. | 20:44 |
| nathwill | lolz | 20:44 |
| cy1 | so not really its fault | 20:44 |
| nathwill | it seems like a good practice to me.. | 20:44 |
| c_smith | hello | 20:44 |
| nathwill | greetings :) | 20:45 |
| cy1 | How do you get vim to delete trailing whitespace, and not to do so for patches? | 20:45 |
| cy1 | emacs does it every time the file is saved, if that helps... | 20:45 |
| c_smith | yay.... sound converter crashed. >.< | 20:45 |
| nathwill | 2 secs in google says: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Remove_unwanted_spaces#Automatically_removing_all_trailing_whitespace | 20:46 |
| nathwill | replace * with *.fileext to apply to | 20:47 |
| nathwill | personally, i don't bother | 20:47 |
| nathwill | i just don't add trailing white space.. | 20:48 |
| cy1 | nathwill: thank you! | 20:52 |
| cy1 | editing other people's code you run into a lot of trailing whitespace, and blank lines with just whitespace... | 20:52 |
| cy1 | also I have to foil the Illuminati plot to control our computers via code hidden in whitespace fragments | 20:53 |
| c_smith | cy1, that's what they WANT you to think, is that you can foil the plot just by doing that. | 21:02 |
| c_smith | >.> | 21:02 |
| cy1 | c_smith: stay out of my head, metal man! | 21:03 |
| c_smith | xDDDD | 21:03 |
| c_smith | if by metal you mean the music..... | 21:03 |
| cy1 | anyway bkerensa https://gitorious.org/cyhax/pgpresponder/blobs/master/main.c | 21:07 |
| cy1 | And that's as much as I can do. :/ | 21:07 |
| cy1 | Imma try to go to Brainsilo this afternoon. | 23:11 |
| bkerensa | thats always fun | 23:28 |
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