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craigbass1976Anyone had trouble with hplip lately?  I just grabbed the latest one and can't get anything to print on either a lucid or a precise box.  Three other precise boxes though in my house print fine00:08
ActionParsnipcraigbass1976: how do the systems connect to the printer?00:09
StrategosHeya hiya.00:11
k4r1mStrategos: wein?00:12
k4r1mStrategos: or fain*?00:13
craigbass1976ActionParsnip, wireless.  I think I just found out what I was doing wrong during the install.00:13
Strategosk4rlm: Pardon my ignorance, but what is Wein?  (Mein Spanisch ist viel besser dann mein Deutsch.)00:14
ActionParsnipcraigbass1976: a step in the right direction, hope it's the magic bullet :)00:14
MASTERPIECEanyone know a program that I wanted to run Android applications00:15
malkauns_in byobu can u get the status bar to show stuff for any machine u ssh into? rather than just the first machine?00:16
k4r1mStrategos: it's like where, north african dialect.00:16
dietrichmanlooking for a method to remove unity 3d so I can just use unity 2D (on my netbook)....??00:16
blackshirtk4r1m, if you know extended partition,that is00:17
Strategosk4rlm: Interesting.  The word 'Strategos' is actually from ancient Greek (and by extension, Greek as it currently is).  The common English translation is "army general".00:17
MASTERPIECEanyone know a program that I wanted to run Android applications????00:17
dietrichmanif i cant remove unity 3d on its own, is there any way to auto start unity 2d at boot up (ubuntu 12.04)....??00:18
xanguadietrichman: you don't need to remove anything, just select unity 2d in the login screen (ubuntu icon next to your username)00:18
Strategosk4rlm: I took it as my character's surname in the game Star Wars: The Old Republic, in which I played a trooper.00:18
k4r1mblackshirt: I fixed it... thank god for boot-repair00:18
craigbass1976MASTERPIECE, isn't there an sdk you can get?00:18
pepperjackMASTERPIECE: you need to an emulator or just an entire VM.  for example http://crashcourse.ca/content/android-emulator-ubuntu-1004-60-seconds00:18
Wavelighthello00:19
Strategoshello00:19
dietrichman<xangua>, i understand that, since i cannot remove unity 3d, is there a script to boot automatically into 2D, instead of having to push the icon next to username?00:19
Strategos<dietrichman>, does it not remember your last choice of which GUI you selected?00:20
WavelightI want to build a linux router, I am a Windows user, what yould you recomand me fast,secure, and stable ?00:20
StrategosI'm curious because it generally remembers if I've selected Gnome or Unity.00:21
Wavelighta distribution based on Ubuntu LTS00:21
morganwhat program can transfer music to an ipod on ubuntu?00:21
dietrichmani am not sure to be honest, it looked like last login when i didnt hit the icon for 2d, it automatically booted into 3d.....is it supposed to boot into whatever your last session was (by default)?00:21
pepperjackWavelight: you want to build it on a PC?  what about just openwrt firmware or something00:21
WavelightI found Ubuntu server pretty hard to configure00:21
shihanWavelight, personally, if i were going to do a router, i'd use either devil linux or openwrt... but 12.04 server would be fine for a router00:21
Wavelightyes, on a pc00:21
StrategosWavelight: That really depends on how comfortable you are with the command line.00:21
blackshirtshihan,yes00:22
StrategosBut I've heard some good things about the OpenWRT and some of the BSD-based solutions for firewall.00:22
shihani really quite like x86 openwrt myself (though im not a fan of their firewall gui, the zones bit)00:22
blackshirtstrategos, thats good if you could configure them correctly00:22
StrategosBlackshirt: True.  I've simply read on them a bit; I haven't done personal testing.00:23
pepperjackWavelight: you probably will want some sort of iptable frontend then maybe shorewall?  something like that?00:23
blackshirtStrategos, and you familiar with it00:23
Wavelightcan I use Ubuntu and add some intrusion prevention on it ?00:23
blackshirtwavelight,yes,sure00:23
Wavelightis there any good book for novice in Ubuntu Server?00:24
StrategosBlackshirt: Not extensively, no.  I played with FreeBSD and PC-BSD before coming to Ubuntu.  It wasn't quite was I was hoping for as a replacement for Windows.00:24
WavelightI want to do several things00:24
pepperjackWavelight: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router  good place to start at least00:24
blackshirtwavelight, go to help.ubuntu.com...00:24
dietrichman<strategos>i am not sure to be honest, it looked like last login when i didnt hit the icon for 2d, it automatically booted into 3d.....is it supposed to boot into whatever your last session was (by default)?00:24
StrategosBlackshirt: I'm treating my conversion much like I did when I started with PCs back in the early 90's.  I kept mostly in the GUI until I was comfortable doing what I needed in the command line.  I /may/ switch to something BSD-based at that point.  Time will tell.00:25
rob_pdietrichman: Have you tried editing /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf with, "user-session=ubuntu-2d" in place of, "user-session=ubuntu" yet?00:25
Wavelightlike traffic shaping, intrusion prevention, log all activity, etc00:25
blackshirtstrategos, i think,. Best suite for replacing your windows was ubuntu or mint, or fedora .... That was easy use distro00:25
dietrichman<rob_p> good suggestion, I will try it....thanks00:26
Strategos<Dietrichman> Based on how you phrased your question - I'm curious: do you have Ubuntu logging you in automatically?00:26
dietrichman<strategos>nope, have it set to enter my password for login00:26
blackshirtstrategos, you can all command line on linux ...00:27
StrategosBlackshirt: That was my thinking too.  I had simply found Ubuntu before I had heard of Mint.  I'll admit that Fedora isn't something I had looked into with much seriousness.00:27
StrategosBlackshirt: Yes, I know.  It's very powerful, which is one of the reasons it attracts me over the Microsoft rendition of MacOS.00:27
krioswhere does google chrome store file downloads?00:27
Wavelightplease tell me, if you could let-s say to put some comand and tell the Ubuntu Server not to accept any login for 1 year, it would be more secure as a router ?00:27
kriosi was downloading a zip of gifs i found on reddit.00:27
Strategos<dietrichman> Right on.  But yes, my experience is that Ubuntu remembered my preference.00:27
kriossaid my hard disk is full00:28
StrategosKrios: /home/username/Downloads00:28
blackshirtkrios, in your Downloads dir on your home dir00:28
kriosStrategos: even if it doesn't complete?00:28
kriosits not in /var/.... somethin00:28
Wavelightis it possible to block any login for a period of time in Ubuntu Server ?00:28
StrategosWavelight: I don't believe that it would be a good idea to prevent a login of any sort for any specied period of time.00:29
MASTERPIECEnow how to install some  android  aplication00:29
kriosStrategos: thanks00:29
kriosblackshirt: thanks00:29
blackshirtwavelight, what do you mean with block login?00:29
StrategosKrios - you're welcome.00:29
rob_pWavelight: That's not the right approach, really.00:29
blackshirtwavelight, tehnically,you can prevent user to login00:30
StrategosWavelight: You might have better luck setting rules that only permit login from console, rather than from, oh, TTY (an SSH connection).00:30
pepperjackWavelight: you might be happier looking at some of the x86 router distros.  I'm sure there are some nice ones00:30
Wavelightwell, I-am not an expert on it security, but I gues if I would somehow find a way to block any attempt to loging to my Ubuntu Server it would me more secure, I think00:30
StrategosWavelight: And Blackshirt's right.  One way to prevent any login is to set all users to log into some bogus shell.00:30
dbdavis#ardour00:31
StrategosWavelight: True, but if something goes wonky with the operating system, you're quite screwed - you won't be able to fix it.00:31
StrategosShort of reinstalling, that is.00:31
WavelightI could keep close a pc for a quick replacement, I need only for routing00:31
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Wavelightbogus shell, please exaplin00:32
StrategosWavelight: Well, I'll use an example.  Let's say that by default, Ubuntu sets all new users up to log into a "bash" shell.00:32
WavelightStrategos- bogus shell means ...00:32
StrategosWavelight: Shells are akin to the command prompt in Windows.00:32
StrategosWavelight: Each Linux shell (ch, bash, and so on) has a slightly different layout and interaction.00:33
blackshirtwavelight, you can build a router with ubuntu,exactly, but maybe better if you very new on ubuntu/linux, use dedicated router distro that available on the internet00:33
StrategosWavelight: Rather than having users log in and be able to access Bash (CMD for Windows), you put them in something like NOTEPAD.EXE.00:33
Wavelightyes, sure that comand line is far more powerfull, it-s harder untill you learn it00:33
StrategosWavelight: So they can't feasibly do anything that would be "bad" for the system.00:34
StrategosWavelight: Well, that's subjective. ;)00:34
StrategosWavelight: "Hard" is based on how motivated you are to learn it and how experienced you are with command line interface before getting into it.00:34
PaloDelCaloporcelle notturne vogliose a me!00:34
StrategosWavelight: DOS (and the Windows command prompt) are something I spent the last 20 years using, so I'm not uncomfortable learning it.  But I can't stand VI.00:35
StrategosWavelight: But alas, everyone knows VI.  So I'm learning it.00:35
StrategosVI is one of the few constants in the *nix world. :)00:35
WavelightI-ve had a pc with dos for about an year or so, anyway comand line is a for sure for people that know what they are doing00:36
Wavelightto be honest, desktop distros are brainwasing users00:36
Wavelight:}00:36
StrategosWavelight: Aye, it's a powerful tool to know how to use.  some of my coworkers rave about the new powershell that Microsoft rolled out too.00:37
Wavelighteasy, but you have no ideea what- behind it00:37
StrategosWavelight: They're lowering their expectations of what end users need to know how to do; "dumbing down".  When I saw Windows 7, I wanted to migrate.  When I saw Windows 8, I knew I was migrating.00:37
StrategosSo a Linux admin, a PC user, and a Mac user walk into a bar.  The bartender asks, "What is this, a joke?"00:39
sarsaeoli like that the linux is an admin, but the pc and mac are just users00:40
sarsaeolha00:40
Wavelight:}00:40
WavelightStrategos, I-ve had an ideea about how you can point if a system is hacked or no, it-s a very simple ideea00:41
Wavelightplease listen00:42
WavelightI don-t know about nothing of informatincs00:42
Wavelightbut00:42
Code_Bleucan someone help me figure out why my computer just randomly locks up? sometimes it gives me a kernel panic screen, other times it just locks up and monitor is blank and leds flash on keyboard (scroll and caps)  I have tried looking at all the /var/log files but i can find anything00:43
blackshirtwavelight,change the login shell to nologin shell,00:43
Wavelightif all the web pages would have a ""fingerprint"" like www.ubuntu.com has exactly 1 mb for example00:43
Code_Bleui have ran memtest, hd test, and have upgraded from JeOS 9.04 server to 12.0400:43
StrategosCode_Bleu: My first guess would be that it's an issue with your RAM.  Specifically, the RAM and the motherboard aren't getting along.  Either it's mismatched speeds on the sticks, or the RAM sticks aren't compatible with the motherbard.00:44
StrategosMy next guess would be a video card issue.00:44
Wavelightand I measure the exact amount of transfer beetween the pc and the server, I would see for sure if a few bits are added or no00:44
Code_BleuStrategos: this is a server that i have had for a while now and it has always worked. Im wanting to say atleast 2 or 3 years00:45
pepperjackCode_Bleu: did you see this in 9.04 as well or not until you upgraded?00:46
StrategosWavelight: If I had to guess, IP transfer traffic will always have a slightly higher count for bits/bytes because of header information.00:46
VermicelliI'm having trouble getting my Humble Bundle to install with Ubuntu Software Center. I get a "Not Found," for each title, which oddly enough while not found may or may not have ratings.00:46
Code_BleuStrategos: it just started doing this, and nothing had changed that im aware of. This server just runs and i hadnt done any updates to it...it runs vbox and one vm on there...thats it00:46
Vermicellihttp://i.imgur.com/GkUyX.png00:46
StrategosCode_Bleu: Thank you for the clarification on that.  That is certainly unusual.00:47
Code_Bleupepperjack: no, i did all the upgrading to see if it would fix the issue.  I had been on 9.04 since it came out and it has worked forever...just in the past few weeks has it randomly started crashing...and it seems to be getting worse00:47
aguitel_the fan is not stop in my laptop ,how fix this?00:47
Wavelightyes, I understand, but it-s possible to take them into account with great precision, no ?00:48
StrategosAtuitel: Replace the fan.00:48
StrategosAtuitel: It's not uncommon for fans to stop working.  They're not overly expensive parts.00:48
StrategosAtuitel: If you're paying someone to do it, you're likely to spend more in labor than the actual part.00:48
Code_Bleui have ran smarttools to check the hd and it comes back ok., i have ran fsck on all the partitions..and its good.  i ran memtest, but not for a long time. Usually bad memory is detected right away00:49
blackshirtcode_bleu, what the messages appears when your kernel panic lastly?00:49
StrategosWavelight: Probably.  To be honest, I don't specialize in this area.  So I don't know that I could give you an answer that would be overly helpful.00:49
VermicelliI think aguitel_ said the fan doesn't stop running, not that it has stopped.00:49
Code_Bleui just wished i knew how to get the dumps/logs so i could troubleshoot it...however im not finding anything usefull in /var/log/message /var/log/syslog/ ..etc.00:50
pepperjackCode_Bleu: well if you saw it between that many versions then its a hardware issue of some sort.  once I noticed that all the video on one of my pcs had artifacts all of a sudden.  I did everything to figure out what the problem was with what driver.  turned out it was one of the cores id unlocked in bios on my cpu.  worked for 2 years and then all of a sudden caused problems00:50
Code_Bleublackshirt: the last 10+ times i dont get a panic...just black monitor..monitor led flashes...and sometimes the keyboard has scroll lock and caps lock flashing..i just have to hit the power button and reboot00:50
WavelightStrategos- no problem, I was just wondering if all the webpages and all the services on the internet would have some special syncronisation it would be very very dificult for hacker to act in silence00:51
blackshirtcode_bleu, can you switch to other console, i mean hit ctrl+alt+f2 for example00:51
Wavelightfor example I open a webapge, I don-t know what size it has and what contains00:52
StrategosWavelight: Aye.  Though keep in mind, most of your would-be hackers are "script kiddies".00:52
Code_Bleublackshirt: no..its a complete lock up..no ssh..etc00:52
Wavelightit-s a jungle00:52
StrategosWelcome to the jungle.  We got fun and games.00:52
StrategosSuddenly, I realize that I feel old.00:52
StrategosWow.  I've quoted an old man's song.00:53
Wavelightno problem, I use someking of freez for my operating system00:53
Wavelight:}00:53
Strategos:}00:53
WavelightI have no problems with hackers00:53
blackshirtcode_bleu, is your magic sysrq functioning?00:53
PatrickJamesonhey all, I'm attempting to change my xorg config to turn off my laptop screen when there's an external monitor attached00:53
PatrickJamesonhere's my config file: http://pastie.org/475685700:54
PatrickJamesonI changed line 51/5200:54
blackshirtwavelight, exactly, i don't understand what is your need..sure00:54
PatrickJamesonit seems to work when I'm on the log in screen00:54
StrategosHackers have a purpose, sort of like predators do.  They point out where our weaknesses are, and provide us an opportunity to learn. There's even a certification for Certified EthicalHacker.00:54
PatrickJamesonbut as soon as I log in, it switches back to my laptop screen00:54
Wavelightby the way, Strategos, please tell me if I can use some king of freez for Ubuntu Server00:54
aguitel_Vermicelli,and the raviole ?00:55
Code_Bleublackshirt: whats that?00:55
blackshirtpatrickjameson, i think you messed up some file on your home dir00:55
PatrickJamesonwhich file do you think that is?00:55
PatrickJamesonI backed up the one in /etc/X11 and edited that one00:56
StrategosWavelight: If you're using Ubuntu server, you have it covered like a jimmy hat.00:56
blackshirtcode_blue, thats internal linux mechanism to allow the panic kernel to do some safe step00:56
PatrickJameson...actually if there's an xorg config file in my home dir will it over ride?00:57
PatrickJamesoncause that's where I happened to back it up ;D00:57
Code_Bleublackshirt: so when it locks up again, just press that key on keyboard?00:57
WavelightI don-t user a Ubuntu Server, I don-t understand you have covered like a jimmy hat00:57
Wavelightlol00:57
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blackshirtcode_blue, yes, some combinatorial keyboard keys with sysrq(print screen key on some keyboard)..google it for more information00:59
Code_Bleublackshirt: googling now :)01:00
zykotick9!reisub | Code_Bleu01:00
ubottuCode_Bleu: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key01:00
blackshirtcode_blue, you should find a lot of informations01:00
Code_Bleuzykotick9: thanks. im assuming this is only for soft lock ups?01:02
craigbass1976Ok, I give up.  I installed hplip off the hplip open source site, and everything looks like it went hunky dory.  Whenever I print though, I get some message about a required plugin not found.  I've done a sudo hp-plugin again, everything looked fine, and still no printing wiht the same error01:02
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Code_Bleuzykotick9: this is good to know for cleanly shutting down or rebooting, but how do i figure out what caused the lock up in the first place?01:02
PatrickJamesonblackshirt: do you have any ideas as to which file might be screwing with me01:03
PatrickJameson?01:03
zykotick9Code_Bleu: don't know how you can find out cause...  only use reisub for emergencies, not just regular shutdown/reboot!01:03
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blackshirtpatrickjameson, ls -la your home dir, and look at .ICEauthority files .... Is that files owned by root?01:04
Code_Bleuzykotick9: yes i understand only use this for emergency when pc is locked up.  right now ive just been hitting power button and turning back on.  Im not worried about clean shutdown, i want to figure out why it doing this in the first place and i cant find any logs saying what is causing it.01:05
zykotick9Code_Bleu: i know ubuntu uses 2 logs for kernel these days (but i'm affraid i don't know the names)01:06
blackshirtcode_blue, maybe you want to look at dmesg log, boot log, syslog, messages01:06
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zykotick9Code_Bleu: syslog and messages i guess... so you probably already checked them...01:07
PatrickJamesonblackshirt: no01:07
PatrickJamesonowned by me01:07
Code_Bleublackshirt: i have :(01:07
Code_Bleublackshirt: when it kernel panics / locks up...does it actually write something to a log?  do i need to configure something so it will?01:08
blackshirtcode_blue, are you using desktop or server version?01:08
Code_Bleublackshirt: can i possible get this info from using the sysrq key combo?01:08
Code_Bleublackshirt: server JeOS01:09
WavelightStrategos, thank you very much for your informations, have a nice evening01:10
Wavelightall the best01:10
blackshirtcode_blue... I don't think so..thats way for emmergency lock ups.. I don't know that was logged or not01:11
aguitel_how install java01:12
zykotick9!java | aguitel_01:12
ubottuaguitel_: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.01:12
Code_Bleublackshirt: my setup is: JeOS server (12.04 now) with virtualbox running, i have one vm (pfsense) that is used as my router/firewall.  so needless to say, it sucks when this server crashes..i have to bring it back up and google..:)01:12
Code_Bleuim not running anything else that i can think of on the ubuntu host server..just whatever is needed for vbox.  This is why i said earlier, that nothing should have changed...if this is up and my router is working, i dont mess with it.01:15
blackshirtcode_blue, maybe thats related some hardware interupt issues .. You should analyze them01:15
FloorduckI had installed linux on the laptop I am about to return. Using a liveCD of lubuntu, I just deleted the old linux partitions. When I send it back, will it still be clear enough that linux had been installed for them to notice?01:16
FloorduckShould I create and format this newly freed space and then delete the new partition?01:17
Code_Bleublackshirt: what do you mean? what is related to hardware interupt issues?01:18
examancerFloorduck: Most manufacturers will not refuse returns or warranty service because you messed with the OS01:18
|Anthony|what is the dev chan?01:18
Floorduckalrighty, I'd just like to make sure01:19
blackshirtcode_blue, i mean, maybe some hardware issue that couldn'tt handle correctly..i don't exactly01:19
Floorduckand still, I'd be curious to know the answer just out of curiosity :)01:19
blackshirti dont know exactly01:19
examancerFloorduck: but, they have no reason to try and examine what you put on it. Removing the partitions will be sufficient to make it way more effort to find out than they would ever exert.01:19
Floorduckokay, I have a new problem :P01:19
FloorduckSo I just deleted the partitions and I've rebooted...01:19
FloorduckIt says: "error: no such partition"01:20
examancerAs someone who's worked for a computer manufacturer and done service work, I guarantee they are going to re-image it anyways.01:20
PatrickJamesonblackshirt: it was owned by me. is that a good thing?01:20
Floorduck"grub rescue>"01:21
Code_Bleublackshirt: i know i could just start replacing stuff ( video card, nic's, mem...etc, but 1. i dont have extra of everything, 2. that would be a pain to do.  I just wished i had some logs or something that pointed me to an area first01:21
Code_Bleublackshirt: what about cpu? is there any recommendations on testing if the cpu is going bad?  Ive always been under the impression that cpus either work or they dont though01:22
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blackshirtcode_blue, what machine are you using? Xb6?01:24
blackshirti mean x8601:24
examancerCode_Bleu: They can have various errata that either do or do not affect accuracy, performance, heat, etc.01:24
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Code_Bleuyes, x86 hp d530 cmt01:25
Code_Bleuexamancer: true01:25
examancerCode_Bleu: you just need to use process of elimination. Move the CPU to another computer if you can find one that is the same socket. Test the RAM, test using a new Heatsink/Fan, or maybe just the grease/adhesive01:25
blackshirtcode_blue, is that lock ups too on single mode user?01:26
Code_Bleublackshirt: yes01:26
examancerif the CPU doesn't act up in another computer, its probably not the CPU01:26
Code_Bleuexamancer: i dont have the extra equip. to test. im pretty sure its not over heating too.  ram has been tested for a few min with memtest01:27
blackshirtcode_blue... You should analyze your log recorded,01:27
examancerFloorduck: so you still have GRUB on your master boot record it looks like?01:27
Code_Bleublackshirt: i will again, but i have looked at all of them and searched for panic, kernel...etc and have found nothing...i will keep looking though01:28
blackshirti have experiences with some issues like yours,but maybe thats was different01:28
examancerCode_Bleu: I'd recommend letting the memtest do at least 1 complete test cycle01:28
examancerI've had bad RAM that didn't show errors in memtest until near the end of a test cycle01:29
FloorduckI guess so... what should I do?01:29
examancerso the first 10 minutes everything would be fine, but then closer to the end it would fail01:29
blackshirtcode_blue... And check your all cable, disk, memory, etc..and everything on place correctly01:29
netitoQUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL01:29
ampdanyone using awesome wm?01:29
Code_Bleuexamancer: ok.  will do.  in the past though..ever time i have seen bad mem. it detects it right away.01:29
examanceryeah, i've seen that too01:29
ezioi don't want to touch the thing .. unless i have gloves on .. but my friend wants to know if you can put ubuntu on a mac .. 3 people in my class claim they googled it to no avail ... i'm just here to show them how to use irc01:30
Code_Bleublackshirt: will do, i have not taken it all apart yet, but the next time it crashes i will reseat everything.01:30
Code_Bleuif you see me disconnect from this channel, its because it crashed :)01:30
ezioyou crashed01:30
ezioso ... is installing ubuntu on a mac a thing that you can do?01:31
eziomy answer was01:31
eziostep 1.01:32
ezioremove the hard drive01:32
wubinoanyone know why ubuntu's power management fails or would fail to wake up after a sleep or hibernate event?01:32
eziostep 2.01:32
eziodiscard the mac01:32
FloodBot1ezio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:32
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wubinoUsing an AMD Phenom 9750 chip01:32
eziofloodBot1, let's cuddle01:32
wubinoI have not been able to find any posts via google on this except for people have posted bug reports about it since Ubuntu 11.0401:33
sgo11hi, with 12.04.1 liveusb and persistent storage, which package should I install for supporting Broadcom wireless card driver? It shows wireless firmware is not installed error. thanks.01:33
craigbass1976ezio, you still here?  I'm currentl;y running xubuntu on a ppc mac.  Is that what you're after?01:34
Floorduckexamancer: any idea about how I could fix my problem? the windows partition is still there, but it's not booting from ti..01:34
mrb0nkhi01:34
eziocraigbass1976, no an intel mac01:34
mrb0nkhi01:34
craigbass1976ezio, that should be even easier then.01:34
mrb0nkhi01:34
examancerCode_Bleu: what is your computer doing? I had one that was random restarting/segfaulting. That was the instance where I memtested a few times and didn't see any errors after a while so I didn't finish. The RAM turned out to be bad.01:34
|Anthony|Floorduck, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair01:34
examanceralso had a video card that caused similar symptoms though, so not saying its for sure RAM01:35
eziocraigbass1976, how'd you do it, buds?01:35
wizaqualet's go #ubuntu .01:35
examancerFloorduck: you have grub on your MBR01:35
wizaqua##math is  inching ahead of you interms of  sheer busyness01:35
FloorduckThanks.01:35
craigbass1976I grabbed the ppc version of lubuntu and off I went.  I threw xfce on because I like it better.  There are "wake up after sleeping" problems sometimes, but now worse than my own getting out of bed.  Actually, my problem is every morning; the laptop's record is much better than that.01:36
Code_Bleuexamancer: it is randomly locking up.  screen goes black..monitor led blinks..and sometimes the scroll lock and caps lock led lights blink on keyboard....and once or twice i did see a kernel panic screen01:36
eziocraigbass1976, everyone has toi issue01:37
ezios01:37
craigbass1976ezio, toi?01:37
ezioi've never had a box that didn't have toi issues01:37
eziocraigbass1976, tux on ice01:37
wilee-nileeFloorduck, Do you have a recovery or install disc for the windows?01:38
Code_Bleuexamancer: i have checked my nic's too..no tx or rx errors..the only other thing i was thinking it might be is the video card...but i dont know how to verify that01:38
examancerFloorduck: looks like you can use lilo to re-write the MBR01:38
examancerFloorduck: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fix-corrupted-windows-ntfs-filesystem-ubuntu/ ... scroll to Fixing A Corrupt Master Boot Record01:38
craigbass1976ezio, One thing I hate is no hard drive light.  I can't tell if it's turded out on me, or if it's doing something.  THere's a loud fan, so I can't hear the drive running over it.01:38
examancerCode_Bleu: only sure way is process of elimination... coming up with ways to try and rule out various peices of hardware01:39
examancerif you have two hard drives, for instance, unplug one for a while and run the computer hard (maybe a benchmark)... see if the behavior persists01:39
examancerthen do the same with the other drive01:39
Code_Bleuexamancer: thats what i was afraid of01:39
examancer(sometimes bad hard drives can cause stability problems too)01:40
zykotick9examancer: isn't Code_Bleu using a vm?  kinda rules out hardware if host didn't crash.01:41
Code_Bleuzykotick9: it is the host that is crashing01:41
Code_Bleuzykotick9: it just so happens the vm im running on the host is my router (pfsense)01:42
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ezioanyone got an intel mac running ubuntu?01:43
WeThePeoplei01:43
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WeThePeopleezio, ask your question01:44
ezioWeThePeople, anyone here got ubuntu on a mac01:44
FloorduckIs there any way to get boot-repair without using terminal? I can't get the commands listed on the site to work01:45
WeThePeopleezio, doesnt make a diff, just ask01:45
CellTechIs there a quick way to check the cpu temp just through terminal? Without having to install anything?01:45
Logos01Greetings! What's the command to reload one's iptables rules if one ran iptables --flush ? ( Ubuntu 12.04 )01:46
WeThePeoplelogos01, prob redo them01:47
Logos01None of the following achieve that effect:  service ufw restart || stop ufw ; start ufw01:47
Logos01WeThePeople: What does that even mean?01:47
Logos01I'm talking about the default iptables rules that load at boot.01:47
|Anthony|is udev going to be forked/maintained for/by *buntu since it has been merged into systemd? If not will there be a replacement, or will it just age?01:47
ezioWeThePeople, yes ... the question i want answered is ... k ... you ready .. cause this'll fucking blow your mind ... is it possible to put ubuntu on an intel mac ... a question that could be answered by someone saying "why yes, i have ubuntu on an intel mac" the i'd be like, see, told you class, possible ... you're all idiots for not a) being able to google this fucking shit and b) use irc ... is that fucking sufficient for you?01:48
eziogo ahead01:48
FloodBot1ezio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:48
eziokick me01:48
|Anthony|why have there been so many trolls recently01:49
WeThePeopleezio, so you want proof of this thats it??01:49
PatrickJamesonhey all, I'm trying to edit my xorg config to change my monitor setup to shut off my laptop screen if an external monitor is attached.01:49
WeThePeoplemac is a brand name01:49
Logos01WeThePeople: You're talking to someone who's not even here.01:49
PatrickJamesonit seems to work when I'm on the log in screen, but returns back to the original state when I log in01:49
PatrickJamesonanyone know what could be happening?01:49
Logos01Anyhoo -- Anybody? Reloading of firewall settings?01:50
blackshirtPatricJameson, try to login on single user01:50
OerHeksezio, running ubuntu on your intel mac is possible, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages01:50
PatrickJamesonon single user?01:50
WeThePeoplederheks, too lte..lol01:51
WeThePeoplelate01:51
Logos01PatrickJameson: Recent Ubuntu versions don't really use Xorg.conf. They use different setups which to be honest I'm not 100% familiar with. But you *COULD* use some conditional xrandr settings in your ~/.profile to achieve the effect you're after.01:52
Logos01(That's hackish and not a genuine solution but it would get the job done.)01:52
PatrickJamesonLogos01: oh interesting01:54
Logos01This is going to be another one of those times when I just walk away from this channel in utter disgust, I guess. Is there seriously nobody in here familiar with how the firewall works in 12.04 ?01:54
* PatrickJameson will try01:54
FloorduckExamancer, the repair didnt work. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1215993/01:54
Logos01PatrickJameson: Godspeed, young paduwan!01:54
OerHeksLogos01, all you need is a gui for ufw, like Gufw01:55
WeThePeoplelogos01, its slow tonight01:55
Logos01OerHeks: It's a headless machine.01:55
Logos01No GUI.01:55
Logos01It's going to stay that way.01:55
Logos01WeThePeople: Yeah I guess they all are.01:55
leepingHi there, anyone know of a channel where I can ask about assembling a PC?01:56
WeThePeople#HARDWARE01:56
WeThePeople#hardware01:56
OerHeksLogos01, oke, they you can edit the iptables manually > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo01:56
examancerFloorduck: Sorry, I'm not an expert on MBR stuff. There should be a way to switch it to boot windows again01:57
examanceror, you can always re-install grub and just use that to boot windows01:57
FloorduckBut I want to send it back for replacement; the screen is faulty :(01:57
examancerif you configure grub to never show the menu and always start windows no one would notice01:57
examancerFloorduck: what manufacturer?01:58
FloorduckMSI01:58
Logos01OerHeks: That again is not what I'm asking about.01:58
Logos01OerHeks: Again, my query was simple: "How does one reload the iptables rules that are loaded at boot?"01:59
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examancerFloorduck: what model?01:59
Logos01Telling me how to manually edit my firewall rules achieves no movement towards that goal.01:59
Logos01The link you provided also provides no movement towards that goal.01:59
wilee-nileeFloorduck, bootrepair wont fix a MS boot use the lilo link given you.02:00
NiteRainLogos01: did you find your answer?02:01
goddardhow can i send a file over my current ssh connection02:01
goddardterminal session02:01
jribLogos01: it depends on how you loaded the rules in the first place02:02
examancergoddard: is there some reason you can't start another ssh session so you can scp?02:02
rob_pLogos01: So, "service ufw restart" doesn't accomplish what you want?02:02
wilee-nileeFloorduck, Here is a pastebin of using lilo. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216002/02:02
WACOMaltIs the wine version in the repositories x64 compatible? Like for 64bit windows programs.02:03
NiteRainLogos01: if you had your rules set, you could have backed them up with the iptables-save command02:03
Logos01rob_p: No it does not.02:03
Logos01Bloody hell.02:03
Floorduckum02:03
FloorduckMSI X Series X460DX-423US02:03
FloorduckIntel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 103002:03
WeThePeoplelogos01, are there any iptable rules loaded at boot? <ayecee> WeThePeople: no02:03
Logos01WeThePeople: Yes.02:03
FloorduckWhoops, that's my wireless card. The first thing is the laptop model.02:03
Logos01Most all of what's in /etc/ufw/*02:03
Logos01But service ufw restart is loading nothing.02:04
Logos01So there has to be some other way to make that happen.02:04
Logos01What is it?02:04
rob_pLogos01: Well, it seems to work here...02:04
examancerFloorduck: just curious. That laptop is ugly as hell. Good video card though.02:04
Logos01rob_p: And what is "it" that you're doing? What state is your iptables ruleset in when you do "it"?02:05
NiteRainLogos01: did you try: sudo ufw enable, and then try restarting?02:05
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Logos01I am not going to reboot my computer just to restart the firewall.02:05
Logos01That is absolutely and completely insane.02:05
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goddardexamancer: no i just figured there was an easier way02:06
Logos01Yes, my ufw instance was working before I ran "iptables --flush"02:06
FloorduckUgly as hell? Aww... I don't mind it. What's wrong with her :P02:06
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ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U!02:06
jribow: he's gone02:06
examancergoddard: the easiest way is good ole scp02:06
owjrib: He reconnected, and I suspected that the floodbots were just going to unquiet him again, which...02:06
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Logos01"service ufw enable" --> "The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart02:07
jribow: yes, I missed that.  thanks02:07
Logos01job, but enable is not supported for Upstart jobs"02:07
Logos01So no that's not going to work either.02:07
Logos01Phenomenal.02:07
NiteRainoh upstart02:07
OerHeksLogos01, depends on where you stored a copy of your iptable rules.02:07
Logos01OerHeks: /etc/ufw02:07
jribLogos01: you probably mean "sudo ufw enable"02:07
Logos01jrib: I'm not the one who suggested using "service ufw enable"02:07
jakepetrouleshey does anyone know why i have to run apt-get update && apt-get install openjdk-7-jre TWICE to get it to install? if i only do it once it says i have unmet dependencies02:07
jribLogos01: who was?02:07
examancerscp user@source-host.com:Documents/journal.txt ~/destination/jounrnal.txt02:08
Logos0119:05 < NiteRain> Logos01: did you try: sudo ufw enable, and then try restarting?02:08
Logos01(I have 19:08)02:08
bkerensajakepetroules: you dont02:08
jribLogos01: yes... "sudo", not "service"02:08
bkerensajakepetroules: just sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre02:08
Logos01Ahh. Well that's just mud on my face right there.02:09
rothamhey.. whats an image viewer i can use to open 20mb jpegs without freezing (the default seems to freeze.. shotwell freezes too)02:09
Logos01but again I'm not going to reboot my computer just for something like that.02:09
jakepetroulesbkerensa: but that doesn't work, i get an unmet dependencies error02:09
Logos01rotham: gwenview is reliable for me.02:09
WACOMaltCan anyone tell me if the wine package in the repos is x64 compatible? like for 64 bit windows programs?02:09
jribLogos01: I think he just meant restart the service after enabling ufw02:09
bkerensajakepetroules: that is bizarre it should install the dependencies to02:09
bkerensafile a bug against the package02:09
jakepetroulesi think it happens with java6 also02:10
rothamLogos01: thanks02:10
goddardexamancer: cool thanks bro02:10
jakepetroulesthat is, openjdk-6-jre02:10
PatrickJamesonLogos01: osnap that will work with xrandr -s (0|1) with my metamodes configured in my xorg config02:10
Logos01PatrickJameson: :D  Figured it would.02:10
PatrickJamesonnow I just need to figure out two things02:10
WeThePeoplerotham, gimp may due the trick too02:10
bkerensajakepetroules: what release are you running?02:11
Logos01"two things" ?02:11
PatrickJamesonhow to tell if the screen is connected and how to stop the screen from going black when I shut my laptop02:11
jakepetroules12.04.1, the latest02:11
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Logos01PatrickJameson: the screen going black is an advanced power control setting.02:11
PatrickJamesonI tried setting that02:11
PatrickJamesonmany have complained that it isn't working02:11
Logos01As to how to tell if the screen is connected...02:12
Logos01You'll have to do a conditional test on the number of screens via xrandr.02:12
jribLogos01: fwiw, ufw enable; iptables -F; ufw disable; ufw enable, seems to restore the ufw rules fine...02:12
jakepetroulesbkerensa: oh and its ubuntu server edition. the one on amazon ec202:12
PatrickJamesonyup, just need to figure that out. I'm sure its in this documentation somewhere02:12
bkerensajakepetroules: I would file a bug so a developer can have a look02:12
Logos01PatrickJameson: [ "$(xrandr | grep '^Screen 1') != "" ]02:13
jakepetroulesbkerensa: ok where do i file02:13
Logos01PatrickJameson: [ "$(xrandr | grep '^Screen 1')" != "" ] rather02:13
PatrickJamesonLogos01: yup, I figured that would be an option02:13
jribLogos01: and so does "iptables -F; service restart ufw" (assuming ufw is enabled)02:13
Logos01That is a test statement that checks the output of the xrandr command for the presence of a line that begins with the text, 'Screen 1'02:13
PatrickJamesonthe screen going black is a bit annoying02:13
Logos01jrib: No, that last didn't.02:13
NiteRainLogos01: sudo ufw status02:14
Logos01It02:14
Logos01It's enabled.02:14
NiteRainis it enabled?02:14
jribLogos01: well did my first suggestion work?  If not then you need to be pastebinning more info02:14
Logos01PatrickJameson: Might possibly be a screensaver. You wouldn't by any chance be using LXDE?02:14
Logos01jrib: ufw enable brought up the rules yes.02:14
PatrickJamesonnope02:15
* Logos01 is in too many windows -- did I not state this?02:15
Logos01My apologies.02:15
Floorduckexamancer: thanks for the help; it worked... I love you.02:15
examancerglad i could find a blog post for you :-P02:15
Floorduckshush.02:16
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rob_pLogos01: When I run, "service ufw start/restart" it does indeed establish/reestablish the default ruleset as configured in the ufw configs. However, if you want to remove the ruleset, it seems you still have to do it manually (ie. sudo iptables -F and sudo iptables -t nat -F)02:16
FloorduckDon't add insult to my implied injury :P02:16
Logos01PatrickJameson: "xset dpms force off" <-- seen that before?02:16
Logos01rob_p: No, it actually honestly totally really doesn't.02:17
Logos01"service ufw restart" did nothing the nine times I ran it.02:17
FloorduckOkay, maybe I could have googled it... but I had more faith in you people than I do in my own ability to think critically... so :P02:17
Logos01Nor did "stop ufw ; start ufw"02:17
Logos01"ufw enable" however *did*02:17
PatrickJamesonLogos01: erm, don't believe so. where would I have?02:17
examanceroh, i just meant I didn't do much to help really, just pointed you in a direction02:17
Logos01I find this extremely obnoxious.02:17
examancerdidn't mean as insult02:17
Logos01PatrickJameson: Try running it, just for shits and grins.02:17
Logos01(It disables the xset powersaving mode.)02:17
cappicardheya. when i try running apt-get, I'm getting Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix>,  Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix>[:<exec_prefix>]02:18
Logos01http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/x-screen-blanking.html02:18
PatrickJamesonLogos01: didn't work.02:18
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Logos01PatrickJameson: Was worth a shot.02:18
PatrickJamesonmhm02:18
cappicardImportError: No module named site02:18
Logos01cappicard: reload your bashrc profile. Something's pretty screwy there.02:18
jribcappicard: pastebin full command and full output02:18
cappicardhttp://pastebin.com/index/ReTeNe0A02:19
|Anthony|udev and consolekit have been merged into systemd. What is Ubuntu going to replace these depreciated tools with?02:20
Vermicelli"spacepiratesandzombies: Depends: spacepiratesandzombies-bin but it is a virtual package"02:20
VermicelliWhat can I do about this?02:20
ng0npp02:20
ng0nre02:20
jribVermicelli: ask the provider of "spacepiratesandzombies"02:21
VermicelliI get the same for every one fo the new humble bundle titles.02:21
FloorduckI have one other problem with which you cannot help me... unfortunately :(02:21
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FloorduckI believe I've misplaced the windows vista home premium disk that came with my laptop... I've got to find that -_-02:22
PatrickJamesonLogos01: lololo02:22
convivialhi, does server come with desktop ui?02:22
PatrickJamesonwhen I shut the screen of my laptop everything blanks out02:22
cappicardhrmm... i get the same bloody thing when I just type python02:22
jribconvivial: not installed by default, but you can install any you want from the repository02:22
zykotick9convivial: gui?  not by default (and it shouldn't)02:22
Logos01PatrickJameson: Okay?02:22
cappicardeven as root!02:22
PatrickJamesonto get the external screen on all I had to do was move my mouse02:22
Logos01Oh.02:22
PatrickJameson:P02:23
Logos01well that's interesting.02:23
Logos01Quirky even.02:23
PatrickJamesonit is indeed02:23
jribcappicard: « which python » and « apt-cache policy software-center » on pastebin02:23
PatrickJamesonno idea why that is a feature, but I'll take it02:23
Logos01PatrickJameson: More likely more like a limitation than a feature.02:23
Logos01But as long as you can make it work it's all good.02:23
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PatrickJamesonyup.02:23
sprinklekittenI was experiencing problems with a version of mac os x I reinstalled on an old macbook and so I decided to try out Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I want to re-install mac osx but the install discs continue to fail. I downloaded a .dmg file and want to create a bootable usb drive. Any suggestions on the best method to do this?02:23
Richard_CavellI'm on 10.04 and I see there's a Linux kernel update.  Is it normal to have updates 2 years after the release of the distro?02:24
zykotick9Richard_Cavell: no.  new bugs are discovered.02:24
Richard_CavellSo does 10.04 have the leading edge kernel or is it some way behind?02:24
jribRichard_Cavell: 10.04 is supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 years on the server.  If there are security issues for supported packages, then there will be an update (see !sru for details)02:24
cappicardhttp://pastebin.com/9GNcEZe602:25
|Anthony|Richard_Cavell, no 10.04 is on a 2.6 kernel02:25
Richard_Cavell2.6.32-43-generic according to update manager02:25
ryanCH_I've been searching google for a while looking for Canon MP499 printers drivers for linux, but I haven't found one for that model only MP495.. any ideas?02:25
|Anthony|3.x is current02:25
zykotick9Richard_Cavell: way behind (with that interpretation).  i still run a 2.6.32 happily ;)02:25
PatrickJamesonLogos01: thanks for your help02:26
PatrickJamesonI'm out02:26
Logos01:D02:26
bkerensajakepetroules: in terminal do "ubuntu bug PACKAGENAME"02:26
* PatrickJameson flys away02:26
|Anthony|udev and consolekit have been merged into systemd. What is Ubuntu going to replace these depreciated and system vital tools with?02:27
|Anthony|anyone?02:27
jribcappicard: and you have no idea what could have prompted these python issues?02:27
Richard_CavellI'm back after a reboot02:27
cappicardI do not02:27
Richard_CavellIt's just a bit annoying to have a kernel update because I'm virtualizing and I need to reinstall guest additions02:27
jribcappicard: pastebin « env »02:28
jribRichard_Cavell: read the changelog and see if it's worth it in your case then02:28
|Anthony|with 2.6.x it will more than likely be security related02:28
cappicardbrb.02:30
minetrulyHi! This is my first time using IRC. I'm considering switching to Ubuntu. I'm willing to lean computer programming. If you don't mind talking to a total newbie, do any of you have words of wisdom for me?02:32
blackshirtminetruly: yes, welcome to ubuntu channel...02:33
minetrulyThank you, blackshirt.02:33
gogetaminetruly: programing for linux = easy to port to windows02:33
blackshirtminetruly: if you have problems related to your ubuntu, you can just ask here, or maybe you want to help someone with trouble02:34
gogetaminetruly: the other way around can be diffcult02:34
sprinklekittenThis channel seems too crowded02:34
gogetasprinklekitten: lol02:34
minetrulyWhat does "port" mean? (Sorry, I'm such a beginner! I promise I learn quickly.)02:34
mangdood_I want to install software from the source code and I remember using some software to add it to the package management system. Is this recommended and any idea what it might be called?02:35
crimsonmaneyou do not need to learn programming in order to use Linux.02:35
sprinklekittenI don't even think anyone noticed my question from earlier. I have literally been staring at this feed for 10 mins02:35
blackshirtsprinklekitten: what you mean with too crowded...02:35
WeThePeopleminetruly, port for networking in and out of the computer02:35
minetrulyWhat if it's not compatible with something i want to use, or doesn't run well enough with my computer's hardware?02:35
cappicardhttp://pastebin.com/w8p4n1Qc02:35
mangdood_sprinklekitten: Often people don't really know the answer02:35
minetrulyWeThePeople, thank you, I understand.02:35
blackshirtsprinklekitten: I'm just sitting here for a seconds...02:35
WeThePeopleminetruly, their are over 65000 ports on the computer02:35
jrib!compile | mangdood_02:35
ubottumangdood_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall02:35
jribmangdood_: probably checkinstall, but it's better to build (or find) a proper package02:36
minetruly65000? Why so many? I get the basics like your email goes out one port, or you could specify another....02:36
crimsonmaneWeThePeople: PORT was used not in that sense. it was used to mean "convert to run on another platform"02:36
mangdood_jrib: Yeah, but I need a software package for a course and it's not offered in the repos02:36
crimsonmaneminetruly: please don't let these people confuse you. there is no reason to learn programming to use linux.02:36
WeThePeopleok??02:37
WeThePeoplewhatever02:37
sprinklekittenwell, I don't want to spam everyone with the same. should I continue to wait02:37
gogetacrimsonmane: tought he was referring to using linux as his platform02:37
sprinklekittensame question*02:37
blackshirtsprinklekitten: what is your problem ?02:37
ActionParsnipsprinklekitten: whats up?02:37
jribsprinklekitten: you should just repeat your question ~10 minutes instead of asking if it's been seen02:37
minetrulyThanks crimsonmane. It'll be nice to use it without hassle. But, I really am planning on learning how to program, and dealing with Linux would be as good a place to start as any.02:37
crimsonmanegogeta: no, someone else said "port" to him as in "programming on linux = easy port to windows"02:37
minetrulyI'd love to be able to tweak things.02:37
sprinklekittenI was experiencing problems with a version of mac os x I reinstalled on an old macbook and so I decided to try out Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I want to re-install mac osx but the install discs continue to fail. I downloaded a .dmg file and want to create a bootable usb drive. Any suggestions on the best method to do this?02:38
gogetacrimsonmane: i did02:38
ActionParsnipsprinklekitten: if you are having issues with mac installation then you should ask in #apple or #macos02:38
crimsonmanegogeta: in that sense, "port" does not refer to what WeThePeople was defining.02:38
jribsprinklekitten: well part of the problem is that it's not clear how that is even an ubuntu question...02:38
gogetacrimsonmane: lol no02:38
jagginesslinux on mac?02:38
minetrulyAlso, I'm done tolerating the glitches Windows gives me. I want the ability to get my hands around a problem until I've strangled it.02:38
minetrulyAnd, you know, solved it.02:38
gogetaminetruly: unfortanly glitces are on everything.02:39
ActionParsnipminetruly: try ubuntu-tweak and myunity02:39
minetrulyBut with Linux, can't you get in there and manually fix the glitches?02:39
crimsonmaneminetruly: no.02:39
ActionParsnipminetruly: gogeta: every OS sucks02:39
minetrulyParsnip, thank you, Crimsonmane, what's the significance of ports?02:39
sprinklekittenIt is a ubuntu question. Is there a program in ubuntu that I can use to format a disc image and place on a usb drive02:39
ActionParsnipminetruly: ports in what sense?02:40
jagginesssprinklekitten, linux on mac?02:40
crimsonmaneminetruly: there isn't any significance you need to concern yourself with. if you wanna learn linux you need to install it and read the commands manual.02:40
minetrulyWhat are Ubuntu's biggest downfalls?02:40
sprinklekittenLinux02:40
gogetaminetruly: if you mean can you dig into the system and find the problem of course02:40
jagginessminetruly, biggest downfalls is not installing it02:40
minetrulyHaha02:40
WeThePeopleminetruly, everything is free02:40
jribminetruly: this channel is really meant for technical support, could you please ask your more general questions in #ubuntu-offtopic?02:40
jagginessminetruly, biggest downfall, is most kids would never donate because they're so dam selfish02:41
xangua!ot | minetruly i'm sure everyone will be glad if you join the offtopic :)02:41
ubottuminetruly i'm sure everyone will be glad if you join the offtopic :): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:41
minetrulyTrue. I just want to be prepared when things go wrong.02:41
crimsonmaneminetruly: put your big boy pants on and dive in head first.02:41
minetrulyRecognize common problems as common problems and not some weird thing that's specific to my hardware02:41
jagginesssprinklekitten, refit, you'll need that on mac to get linux to boot02:42
minetrulyCrimson, you are by far giving the best advice.02:42
crimsonmaneYou're going to have huge headaches while you learn linux. I promise you that.02:42
FloodBot1!netsplit02:42
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit02:42
minetrulyOK, good to know that.02:42
jagginesssprinklekitten, they'res a newer one than refit.. i forget the name, it shouldbe on wikipedia02:42
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sprinklekittenJagginess, thanks. i will check it out02:43
gogetaminetruly: with any new thing it will have a lering curve but distros like ubuntu try to make it as painless as possable.02:43
Nautilusdoes this seem like appropriate directions for installing nomachine (aka NX)?  http://www.humans-enabled.com/2012/04/how-to-install-freenx-server-on-ubuntu.html02:43
ActionParsnipsprinklekitten: unetbootin may do it, you may need a mac02:43
ActionParsnipsprinklekitten: macs a re a dumb system and don't play well with others02:44
minetrulyI am indeed going to dive in. Any big, obvious tips for a beginner like me? And what are the biggest problems I'm likely to encounter upfront?02:44
jribminetruly: please move your discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.02:44
gogetaminetruly: with any luck none02:44
crimsonmaneminetruly: nope. you should come here tho when you have troubles.02:44
ActionParsnipminetruly: all OSes can and do go wrong02:44
minetrulyDoes it... does it have less troubles than Windows?02:44
crimsonmanedepends on how you look at it.02:45
crimsonmaneit has "different" troubles than windows02:45
ActionParsnipminetruly: depends on how you use it02:45
minetrulyI guess my biggest concern is whether it will use my quad core and my touchscreen and such optimally.02:45
billcwhere do u get the terminal commands02:45
jagginesssprinklekitten, it's called refind->http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/02:45
sprinklekittenI hate my old macbook and love ubuntu but I need mac osx for certain programs I need. Don't worry though. I will be booting Ubuntu from a disc after I have osx reinstalled on my HD02:45
gogetaminetruly: good chance the tuchscreen will be a issue02:45
minetrulyCan you highlight some of its troubles?02:45
crimsonmaneno02:45
jagginesssprinklekitten, you can shrink the hfs+ with the osx installer media. then use gparted live cd to add ext4+swap02:46
crimsonmaneI'm sorry I really want you to try linux, but the sales and customer service department is that way. this is tech support.02:46
minetrulySprinklekitten, I've seen a Macbook boot Ubuntu, you can dual boot from the same hard drive, I think.02:46
crimsonmane()i'm kidding, of course()02:46
jagginesssprinklekitten, if it's ppc, then i'm not sure if refind/refit support that.02:46
* jagginess can tripleboot a macbook with refit/refind02:47
ActionParsnipminetruly: the desktop OS can manage up to 32 cores if memory serves. Quad core isn't anything fancy02:47
sprinklekittenI'm running Ubuntu 12.04 right now. I'm just trying to reinstall OSX without the discs haha02:47
gogetaminetruly: apples tend to be a bit tempermental when it comes to getting linux up and running02:47
minetrulyCrimson, you won't scare me away. I'm going to install it. I'm just asking so I have a heads up. I want a general feel for the OS, and while I can get it by just downloading the thing, why not ask some experts for their take on it?02:47
ActionParsnipminetruly: the touch screen may be an issue but it depends on the controller for it. I suggest you boot a liveCD OS and test there, it won't modify your installed OS02:48
jagginesssprinklekitten, ya.. you probably can boot snowleopard off usb.. but i know mountain lion can.. the osx DiskUTility.. but this is goind off topic..02:48
minetrulyCan't Quad core allow you to run more applications at once? I'm one of those people who has a dozen applications open and 200 tabs in Firefox.02:48
mwmnj...02:48
crimsonmanemy "expert" opinion will get me booted from chat here, minetruly.02:48
ActionParsnipminetruly: yes, you'll also need RAM to hold the running apps, not just raw CPU speed02:49
minetrulyI have 8 gigs.02:49
sprinklekittenjagginess, Thanks for your help. I will make my way to #apple to see if they can help me02:49
ActionParsnipminetruly: thats more than enough for Ubuntu, the libs are reused so RAM use is low02:49
minetrulyIsn't it not so much the speed, and more that the multiple processors allow more processes to run at the same time?02:49
gogetaminetruly: A multi-core processor is a single computing component with two or more independent actual central processing units02:50
ActionParsnipminetruly: I run a full desktop and use less than 400Mb02:50
crimsonmanerunning many apps = 80% ram, 20% cpu02:50
gogetaminetruly: and you wanna program02:50
ActionParsnipminetruly: the RAM holds the processes as they run, so more RAM means more processes, CPU just means they will run smoother. CPU doesn't determine how many concurrent apps you can run02:51
minetrulygogeta: yes, but I'm not going to kid myself into thinking I can do anything well so soon.02:51
jribguys, this is #ubuntu, not computing 101...02:51
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ActionParsnipminetruly: even if you fill the RAM, you wil start to use swap space (slower) and you can run even more. With 8Gb I doubt you will touch swap02:51
minetrulyActionParsnip: What are the other factors? My 2010 PC has more RAM than my 2007 MacBook, but the Windows machine has never once run faster than my Mac.02:53
xangua!ot | minetruly crimsonmane gogeta ActionParsnip02:53
ubottuminetruly crimsonmane gogeta ActionParsnip: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:53
jribminetruly: this is your last warning to move this general discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.  I'll have to ban you if you keep ignoring it...02:53
minetrulyubottu: the illustration with Mac allows me to understand an Ubuntu related question02:53
ubottuminetruly: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:53
crimsonmaneFYI i don't really care for the rules. If pre-buy questiones aren't Ubuntu support, then I don't know what is.02:53
ChibaPetHey all. An odd request, but I wonder if someone with a launchpad account could leave a message on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.4/+bug/944321  ?   The message would consist of "on Debian, libc6-dev-i386 fixes this - perhaps there's something similar available for you."02:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 944321 in wine1.4 (Ubuntu) "apt-get build-dep script for wine missing xorg and " [Undecided,Confirmed]02:54
ActionParsnipminetruly: its a different OS all together so the resources will be used differently02:54
bazhangActionParsnip, minetruly lets move on02:54
ActionParsnipbazhang: deal02:54
minetrulyOK.02:54
minetrulyThanks for your help.02:54
ActionParsnipis it bad I kinda knew s/he also owned a Mac ;)02:55
FooFlyerhi guys, i have a question, iḿ really new in ubuntu, iḿ trying to install apache http server, but i dont know which is the best place to place my folder installation02:55
ActionParsnipFooFlyer: the defaults will be fine02:55
bazhangFooFlyer, use the package manager, it will do it for you02:56
FooFlyerthe deafults?? which??02:56
ActionParsnipFooFlyer: use the package manager and it will install all you need02:56
FooFlyerwell ive downloaded the tar version02:56
FooFlyeri would like to install from the tar version02:57
ChibaPetFooFlyer: The Debian (and hence Ubuntu) package manager has a very nice way to manage Apache site configurations. You want to learn it and use it. Install the package using your package manager and dig into what it installs.02:57
ChibaPetFooFlyer: You don't want the tar version.02:57
ChibaPetFooFlyer: Once you've installed the packaged version, dpkg -L apache-package-name and you'll see where to look.02:57
ChibaPetFooFlyer: The big win using the packaged version is that you'll get security updates more easily, which is absolutely critical for a web server.02:58
ns_nazrihi02:58
gogetaActionParsnip: you shall own a mac for that02:58
ns_nazrican all help me02:58
ChibaPetAnyway, thanks in advance if someone can answer that LaunchPad question for me. Have a good night.02:59
gogeta!ask | ns_nazri02:59
ubottuns_nazri: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:59
FooFlyerok guys, iĺl keep it in mind02:59
pyrokinetichi everyone. recently removed my windows 7 partition and am now running ubuntu 12.04 full time, unfortunately I now have a TON of unallocated space that I can't seem to use, tried running gparted from liveCD and disabled swap so I could expand my extended partition, which worked, but now I just have unallocated space (along with my 'normal' partitions) within my extended partition...a little help would be super.03:01
ns_nazrii have ubuntu 12.04, ubuntu can support usb 3.003:01
crimsonmanepyrokinetic: you need to boot to a LiveCD in order to resize the partition. the drive cannot be mounted when you resize it, which means you can't be using it as your operating system at the time you resize it.03:01
wilee-nileepyrokinetic, you can resize all partitions using the same method.03:02
wilee-nileea live cd03:02
pyrokineticcrimsonmane: I did do it from livecd but couldn't move the sliders across.03:02
gogetapyrokinetic: using the luve cd you should be able to give linux all the free space03:02
crimsonmanepyrokinetic: the drive might have been mounted.03:02
jagginesspyrokinetic, usually it's very hard to work with the extended partition, so people work best only at 4 partitions max (especially true on msdos partition style table-- but this worry doesnt exist on GPT)03:03
jagginesspyrokinetic, and i mean 4 "primary" partitions..03:03
gogetaPryon: if your just running ubuntu delete extended03:03
jagginess(gpt only uses primary partitions)03:03
gogetathink he left03:04
jagginessgogeta, um.. i think he means ubuntu is inside this extended partition03:04
pyrokinetichmmm. thanks jagginess. crimsonmane I think it wasn't mounted, it showed up in nautilus down the left hand side but didn't show as 'mounted'...if that makes sense?03:04
gogetajagginess: oh thats gonna be a mess03:04
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ActionParsnipgogeta: Noooo!03:04
crimsonmaneit's not supposed to be mounted03:04
jagginesspyrokinetic, if you just installed it, and there's no data to backup on the drive, the best /easiest solution-- would be less time to wipe out the drive and start from scratch03:05
crimsonmane^03:05
jagginess(which is like 20 minutes)03:05
pyrokineticjagginess: I've used it for a while unfortunately and have quite a bit of stuff. I thought about doing that tho03:05
ns_nazriubuntu can support usb 3.0 and thunderbolt03:05
jagginesspyrokinetic, well if there's alot of unallocated space, it's best to backup the data, and start from scratch :/ unfortunately..03:06
gogetapyrokinetic: yea extended is only nedded if you have more then 4 partations03:06
jagginessns_nazri, thunderbolt is a kernel.org effort.. so if ubuntu cant do it, no other linux can03:06
Will013Hi all, brand new to ubuntu, trying to copy a resolv.conf file to /mnt/etc/resolv.conf but the live cd doesn't seem to have the file? or I can't find it.03:06
gogetapyrokinetic: its not ment for primary use03:07
ns_nazrijagginess: usb 3.003:07
jagginessgogeta, on msdos styled partitions. ('extended' doest exist on gpt)03:07
pyrokineticgogeta: I never remember even selecting extended in the install, it just did it by default when I installed it....from what I remember03:07
jagginessns_nazri, usb 3 is supported with the linux kernel, maybe you should ask on #linux.. it's not strictly a ubuntu issue03:08
ns_nazriok thank you03:08
jagginessns_nazri, ubuntu is more like the user desktop experience.. and if ubuntu has usb3 it's because of kernel.org (and any other linux would have it)03:08
gogetapyrokinetic: wow what a pain. if it was on primary this issue would not even happon03:08
Will013Is there a quick way to determine if i'm missing the resolv.conf file on the live cd?03:09
pyrokineticgogeta: what I don't understand is this, I only have linux installed.......no other primary partitions, I just have sda3 and the rest are all logical drives03:09
ActionParsnipWill013: file /etc/resolv.conf03:09
Nautilus__unusually quiet here!03:10
jagginesspyrokinetic, i thought you were talking about unallocated space outside the extended partition03:10
jagginesspyrokinetic, if its only unallocated data within extended.. you shuold be able to resize the logical partitions within03:10
ActionParsnipWill013: it will either say ASCII text (or similar) or an error about missing file03:10
Will013cannot copy /etc/resolv.conf no such file directory03:11
ActionParsnipWill013: /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink03:12
pyrokineticjagginess: sorry, I didn't explain very well....I have a screenshot on ubuntuforums.org (and a thread there under general help) ...not sure if you have an account there but it might illustrate my problem a bit better03:12
ActionParsnipWill013: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216067/03:12
Will013ok, i'm brand new to ubuntu what's a symlink and why is this a problem?03:12
ActionParsnipWill013: a symlink is like a windows shortcut but a million times more useful03:13
jagginesspyrokinetic, i dont think i need a screenshot.. you can do-> fdisk -l<enter>03:14
Will013should you be able to run the internet on a live cd?03:15
ActionParsnipWill013: if there are drivers and such, then yes03:15
pyrokineticjagginess: err, the command works but....nothing happens.03:15
ns_nazriubuntu can play games same windows03:15
jagginessWill013, the live cd can do dhcp if i remember correctly03:15
jagginesspyrokinetic, maybe use it with sudo03:15
Will013dhcp?03:15
ns_nazrihelp me03:15
jagginessWill013, a real ubuntu means it's not a live-cd.03:16
jagginessWill013, use the real thing..03:16
ActionParsnipWill013: what about it, namng random protocols is far from productive03:16
ActionParsnipWill013: icmp?03:16
* ActionParsnip shrugs03:16
pyrokineticjagginess: where do I paste?03:16
jagginesspyrokinetic, dunno.. check the topic :/03:17
jagginess!paste03:17
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:17
pyrokineticjagginess: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216073/03:18
jagginesspyrokinetic, so use gparted live cd and grow /dev/sda5 .. if this is "/" then you'll need to rerun grub-install /dev/sda03:19
jagginessor use boot rescue iso etc.. if you want the easier way03:19
Rugwhen you run a command like: add-apt-repository it doesn't edit the file: /etc/apt/sources.list ....  What does it edit, and/or how do I 'fix' a mistake I entered?03:20
pyrokineticjagginess: sda5 is /boot03:20
pyrokineticjagginess: sda6 is / and sda7 is /home03:20
delinquentmein permissions drwxr-xr-x   ...03:20
trismRug: it adds a file to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/03:21
delinquentmed = directory03:21
Rugtrism: thansk03:21
pyrokineticjagginess: and my unallocated space also doesn't show up anywhere in the paste, but I'm guessing that's normal? or not..03:21
jagginesspyrokinetic, well can you move /boot with gparted ? it wouldnt even be a hundred meg03:22
RugI have followed a few guides but still cannot get kontact to sync with Google.  Any suggestions on what to do?03:22
pyrokineticjagginess: that's the problem, I can't 'move' or resize anything :\03:22
RugI have added akondai google.data, it asked for my password, but it isn't syncing03:22
Garr255I need some help here... I installed a PPA package (bfgminer) and I have no clue where it went. I need to edit some configuration files.03:23
jagginesspyrokinetic, "gparted live cd".03:23
jagginesspyrokinetic, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php03:23
jagginess(can make a usb out of it too)03:23
pyrokineticjagginess: that's what I've been using. doesn't work, can't move the sliders at all.03:23
jagginess!ppa03:23
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge03:23
jagginessGarr255, ^03:23
Garr255Timeout error03:24
Garr255Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.03:24
Garr255We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience.03:24
Garr255Does that mean you can answer me? :P03:24
Garr255I've scoured the hdd and google03:25
Garr255nothing...03:25
Garr255jagginess, ^ ;)03:25
jagginessi cant help you with anything ppa, but you can try to set it up checking the files installed-> dpkg -L <pakcagename>03:26
Garr255jagginess, that worked, thanks!03:27
Garr255jagginess, give me a bitcoin address and I'll give you half a bitcoin03:27
Garr255(~6 USD)03:27
gogetaGarr255: lol bitcoin03:29
Garr255jagginess, ohh my god, I'm derping. I was ftp'd into a different server than ssh...03:29
lotuspsychjemorning to all03:35
woot-0854lotuspsychje: hi03:36
lotuspsychjewoot-0854:hi there mate03:36
cadohi03:36
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woot-0854lotuspsychje: aus?03:38
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woot-0854lotuspsychje: gmx ftw03:38
lotuspsychjewoot-0854:? whats that?03:39
woot-0854lotuspsychje: ot! warning.  gmx.com  check it out03:39
lotuspsychjewoot-0854:lets move to ot03:40
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woot-0854!ot03:41
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:41
Nautilusis this a suitable way to install a LAMP stack?  sudo tasksel install lamp-server03:41
Notleet!guidlines03:41
lotuspsychje!lamp | Nautilus03:41
ubottuNautilus: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)03:41
Nautilusthanks, thats the page I got that from :)03:41
SchnapperHey everybody03:43
AnusienI have ushare installed, and it created a /etc/init.d/ushare. How do I configure this to run automatically at boot?03:44
zykotick9Anusien: 1) i have NO idea what ushare is 2) FYI /etc/init.d is the old sysv - ubuntu uses upstart.  good luck.03:46
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Anusienzykotick9: What ushare does is irrelevant, but it provides you with a name of a process. And upstart doesn't seem to play well with /etc/init.d/; you either have to convert from one to another or duplicate the effort. If you have upstart call the /etc/init.d/ file, it won't get the pid and be able to get status03:48
zykotick9Anusien: sorry.  i'm zero help on upstart (services on ubuntu).03:49
lotuspsychje!bum | Anusien03:49
ubottuAnusien: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto03:49
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k_szeHow do I move, recursively, files from a path /a/ to a path /b/ while preserving the file mode and ownership of files and directories seen in /b/ (the target directory)?03:56
zykotick9k_sze: try -r and -a i believe03:56
zykotick9k_sze: oh, for mv i don't think it matters, i was thinking cp03:57
zykotick9k_sze: i'd use cp and test results before moving03:57
k_szeDoes mv try to preserve the file modes and permissions from the source directory?03:57
Nautilusis it suitable to install phpmyadmin via the Software Center?03:58
zykotick9k_sze: i believe so03:58
bluej774Once upon a time there was an interactive OpenGL shader editor program available through the repositories.  I forget its name and now I can't find it.  Anybody know what I'm talking about?03:58
Caradock_sze: I use rsync for things like that, but it's takes a bit to learn03:59
zykotick9Caradoc: +1 on rsync suggestion03:59
bluej774I don't remember if it was for GLSL or cg, but that doesn't really matter.04:00
Caradock_sze: rync will do an intelligent, recursive copy, and if you do it again, it will only copy what changed04:01
miniCruzermy connection to my hidden wireless network will randomly time out and I don't know why. dmesg is filled with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216100/04:01
sgo11hard to explain my problem. basically the ping command does not work properly for many sites. I remembered this was because hosts are not designed properly for some reverse lookup or something. I can't express clearly. I remembered I could give an argument to ping to bypass this issue. but I forgot what argument/parameter I need to give to ping. I can not find it in man page...04:02
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XeusI have a directory permission: drwxrwsrwx    --- How do I remove the s?04:03
zykotick9miniCruzer: i don't know what it means.  but, "wlan0: authentication with 4c:60:de:cf:d8:b6 timed out" is certainly not good.  best of luck.04:03
Xeusthe sticky bit04:03
Xeuschmod 0777 doesn't remove it04:04
quiescensXeus: chmod g-s04:04
Xeusquiescens: thanks04:04
k_szeso yeah, `man rsync` says that -p "preserve permissions", but is it permissions of the target, or permissions of the source?04:04
quiescensk_sze: preserve permissions usually means it will try to make the target's permissions the same as they were at the source04:05
jribXeus: the chmod command you gave should also work04:05
k_szeso that's not what I want. :D04:05
Caradock_sze: rsync -av source dest  // -a implies several other settings04:07
Caradock_sze: Oh, if you're trying to preserve the target permissions, that's harder.  Usually you want to copy the source's permissions to the target.04:08
k_szeCaradoc: In my case, I don't. Hehe, because the target permissions and ownership were set by Fantastico already.04:08
k_sze(trying to update a Drupal installation that was done through Fantastico)04:09
mangdood_Is it possible to make a "link" to a directory and still have that "link" have its own contents?04:09
zykotick9mangdood_: not really.  you're ALMOST, but not, talking about hard-links though04:10
zykotick9mangdood_: hard-links can't cross partition bounds!04:10
mangdood_zykotick9: Ah. So the most I can do is maintain soft-links to the contents of the folder I want.04:11
zykotick9mangdood_: if it's on a different filesystem, then yes.04:11
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zykotick9mangdood_: unless you use rsync/unison or whatever.04:12
Caradock_sze: In my experience, that's usually messy.  Copy the files, then do a chmod -r to recursively change permissions, or chown -r to change owners, but then it will change everything to be the same.  I'll leave it to somebody else if there is a better way.04:12
Xeusjrib: it didn't for some reason04:12
Xeusanywho the g-s worked, thanks04:12
miniCruzerzykotick9: I rebooted router, we'll see how long of a fix that is04:12
mangdood_zykotick9: rsync would be too overkill for something like this, so it's fine. I think I'll just stick to symlinks then. Thanks04:12
woot-0854mangdood_: ln -s /dir/file /new/dir/file04:13
zykotick9mangdood_: woot-0854's suggestion IS what you're doing now right?04:13
mangdood_zykotick9: Yep04:13
zykotick9mangdood_: just checkin'04:13
deviantlinuxAnyone have much experience with sox?  I'm trying to mix multiple files and handle volume for each one...04:14
NautilusI've found a couple different command lines to install phpmyadmin but don't understand the details of the differences... can someone help me decide?   sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin  -or-  sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql phpmyadmin  -or-  ?04:15
deviantlinuxNautilus: why not just download it from the phpmyadmin site?04:16
Nautilustrying to find a common wasy to install softwares (in as much as that is possible).  Why would I do it one way or the other?04:16
zykotick9deviantlinux: downloading and installing source code is not a good way to admin a ubuntu/debian box.  that package will be completely unkown by the package management system (but it could be ESSENTIAL that PM system knows what very that package is...)04:17
woot-0854Nautilus: think, site gets new updates all the time04:17
zykotick9s/very/version/04:18
deviantlinuxNautilus: apt-get install anything is the most common way.  I'm just saying phpmyadmin is a collection of PHP scripts, so it's not really something I see a need to grab via apt-get heh04:18
woot-0854repos are just sites04:18
Nautiluszykotick9: ah thanks, thats what I was thinking04:18
zykotick9woot-0854: repos are sites that gets updates, and can be of confirmed working status...04:18
* Caradoc is installing the new Linux version of Torchlight04:18
WeThePeoplehi04:18
Nautilusdeviantlinux: gotcha04:19
witakrHello good people04:19
woot-0854witakr: hi04:19
woot-0854ty | zykotick904:19
witakrI have a question.. Is this where I ask for help with xubuntu or should I try another channel?04:19
Nautilusohhhh i think this libapache2-mod-auth-mysql is for use say in .htaccess?04:19
woot-0854!xubuntu04:19
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels04:20
deviantlinuxNautilus: that is an apache module, and is not really related to phpmyadmin...where did you see that you need that?04:20
zykotick9witakr: you can ask here.  or if ist specfic to xfce try #xubuntu.  either is fine though (bigger audience here, more specialized there ;)04:20
Nautilusdeviantlinux: install instructions here.  Yea seems like an apache thing ... is it for https?04:21
zykotick9witakr: but don't cross post to both ;)04:21
witakrright. Thanks for that. I have xubuntu running already. Perhaps i should be more specific. I am having issues settign permissions on a secondary HD on my machine.04:21
Nautilusdeviantlinux: here*: http://tuxtweaks.com/2012/04/installing-lamp-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/2/04:21
mangdood_Are there any problems exactly with installing packages with a large number of dependencies?04:21
zykotick9witakr: that actually sounds like something that #ubuntu COULD help you with... but choose whatever.04:21
witakrI have two HDs installed: one for my OS and another for my Plex media server. My Plex is not detecting my media and i am assuming it is an issue with permissions.04:21
woot-0854witakr: ohhh i like hardware :)04:22
deviantlinuxNautilus: I see.  Not sure then.  I use PMA all the time, and never seen a need for that apache module.04:22
Nautilusdeviantlinux: and I could install it later if needed. ok thanks!04:22
woot-0854witakr: on /dev/???04:24
chamunkswhat are some reasons why I might be getting a corrupt disk image on my usb boot of 12 04 server04:24
chamunksits just not verifying a single conf file.04:24
woot-0854witakr: do you know the location of the device in the /dev directory?04:25
mangdood_chamunks: perhaps the download had an error? You can try getting a checksum of the image you downloaded04:25
witakrUBUNTU! I choose you! Use KNOWLEDGE! - I am trying to set permissions for my secondary HD to allow read/write from my Plex Media Server/Manager but when I try to set them in the Property option under the permissions tab The changes to not stick. When i try to use chown in terminal I get a permission denied and when i use chmod the changes I request do not seem to be made.04:25
chamunksmangdood_, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server doesn't appear to provide a sha or md504:26
woot-0854witakr: you never awnsered my question04:26
witakrSorry, I was typing and missed your comments to me.. One sec while I catch up.04:26
woot-0854witakr: what is the /dev location?04:26
prishabhhi, anyone used schroot ?04:26
prishabhI need to execute a command and pass it an option, but it seems like the options passed to the command is ignored.04:26
ActionParsnipprishabh: i've used chroot, not schroot...04:27
witakrwoot-0854, the location of My HD?04:27
prishabhschroot is cool when you wanna chroot as a regular user :)04:27
NautilusLAMP and PMA all working!04:27
Nautilus!unity04:27
ubottuUnity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity04:27
witakrwoot-0854, /media/witTV/ whereas "witTV" is the name of my media HD04:27
prishabhActionParsnip: I don't know but does options work fine with chroot ? $ chroot /path/to cmd -o ?04:27
woot-0854the one that isn't working?  are you getting any file in the /dev directory pointing to the disk?04:27
prishabhwith schroot the -o seems to get ignored :(04:27
ActionParsnipprishabh: usually you chroot to fix stuff, so being root aint all bad :)04:27
Nautilusutoh, http://unity.ubuntu.com looks sick04:28
ActionParsnipprishabh: you'll have to read man chroot04:28
woot-0854witakr: type mount in the terminal and look for that /media/witTV04:28
prishabhNautilus: I get WP PHP Errors04:28
witakrwoot-0854, ok04:28
mangdood_chamunks: I'ma look around. I haven't been on the ubuntu webpage in a long while04:28
prishabhActionParsnip: hmm04:28
Nautilusprishabh: me too04:28
woot-0854its in dev ?04:28
criziswordpress quality04:28
crizisworks if you refresh anyway04:28
chamunksmangdood_, much appreciated.04:28
Nautilusoh, worked on 3rd try04:28
witakrwoot-0854, I found this: "    /dev/sdb1 on /media/witTV type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)   "04:29
woot-0854witakr: nice04:29
woot-0854witakr: cd /dev04:29
woot-0854witakr: ls -al sdb104:30
woot-0854what are the wrx---r--?04:30
witakrwoot-0854,  "    brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 17 Sep 19 23:20 sdb1    "04:30
woot-0854sudo chmod u+x sdb104:31
ActionParsnipwoot-0854: that won't do anything :)04:31
blackshirtwoot-0854: what you need ?04:31
mangdood_chamunks: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/04:31
woot-0854sudo chmod 0775 sdb104:31
zykotick9ActionParsnip: well, not really.  but it SHOULDN'T be done.04:31
witakrwoot-0854,  new ls -al : "    brwxrw---- 1 root disk 8, 17 Sep 19 23:20 sdb1    "04:31
woot-0854oh04:32
woot-0854i see it04:32
woot-0854cd /media/TV04:32
witakrwoot-0854, new after chmod: "     brwxrwxr-x 1 root disk 8, 17 Sep 19 23:20 sdb1     "04:32
Nautilushttp://unity.ubuntu.com seems to be short on basic user info.  I get the idea but looking to read up on it. tips?04:32
woot-0854witakr: still not working?04:33
* zykotick9 wonders what fuseblk as a filesystem means?04:33
tizzhello!04:33
tizzis there someone here who can help me?04:33
rbrookshi04:34
woot-0854:)04:34
mangdood_chamunks: The page should have the checksum files listed on the page... not that I would know much about it; first time I've seen the page04:34
tizzhi, i'm having wine trouble04:34
witakrwoot-0854,  No, Plex is still not decting my media. Perhpps it was not an issue with permissions as I expected considering what you instructed me to do seems to ahve worked.04:34
woot-0854witakr: dont change anything for a sec04:34
tizzany wine pros here?04:34
zykotick9tizz: installing wine or using wine?  if it's installing ask here, if using try #winehq04:34
witakrwoot-0854, However, my original problem, Plex not detecting my media, is still present.04:34
witakrwoot-0854,  ok04:35
tizzok thanks zyko04:35
woot-0854cd /dev || chmod u-x,g-x,o-rx sdb104:35
zykotick9!tab > tizz04:35
ubottutizz, please see my private message04:35
woot-0854witakr: ls -a04:35
woot-0854in /dev04:35
witakrwoot-0854,  While still cd'd in media/witTV?04:36
woot-0854naw cd into /dev04:36
chamunksmangdood_, found it :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes#head-be34311205f11c747d4e163c597629c1d462786104:36
witakrwoot-0854, ok04:36
woot-0854YAr talk like Pirate day is at its end.04:36
zykotick9woot-0854: fyi in /dev - the difference between "ls" and "ls -a" is seeing the . and .. directories04:37
mangdood_chamunks: Well still, the release page is still more general for the hashes, I would think04:37
chamunksmangdood_, I've downloaded "DownThemAll" addon for firefox and just stuck the hash directly into that so it checks as it downloads to confirm its correct.04:37
woot-0854witakr: sorry04:37
woot-0854ls -la sdb104:37
witakrwoot-0854, It returned a long list. What do you need from it?04:37
chamunksmangdood_, sorry?04:37
woot-0854just sdb104:37
witakrwoot-0854, ok04:37
woot-0854need to look at the mods to make sure they are default04:37
mangdood_chamunks: Uh, I linked you http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ in case you missed it04:37
chamunksmangdood_, oh ok yes i did apparently.04:38
zykotick9witakr: i'm afraid you're being lead up a strange path...04:38
witakrwoot-0854, Return on ls: brwxrwxr-x 1 root disk 8, 17 Sep 19 23:20 sdb104:38
tizzthank you zykotick904:38
nicauryi have ubuntu 12.04 server install with raid1 today i reboot the system and the system no boot and have this error "UNKNOWN LVM METADATA HEADER". how to fix?04:38
woot-0854chmod u-x,g-x,o-rx sdb104:38
zykotick9lol, witakr don't do that.04:38
witakrzykotick9, Like Alice? lol04:38
zykotick9witakr: changing permissions on devices is useless.04:39
akishi all. i am using thunderbird to recieve my emails. i installed an extension which was usable and i remove it. i cannot see a related dir in my /home under /thunderbird/exrensions. Is that a proof that extension was completlely remove or is it possible that there are some corrupted files somewhere else?04:39
zykotick9witakr: chaning permission os filesystems is helpful.04:39
woot-0854zykotick9: works fine04:39
woot-0854ur just gui04:39
woot-0854zykotick9: I maintained the sticky bit04:40
witakrzykotick9, Ok. Perhaps knowing my desired end result I can better show with what i need help.04:40
zykotick9lol, "ur just gui" - OMG i'm dieing.04:40
nicaurysorry look this problem i have ubuntu 12.04 server install with raid1 today i reboot the system and the system no boot and have this error "UNKNOWN LVM METADATA HEADER". how to fix?04:40
ActionParsnipwoot-0854: the changes in /dev won't stick as they are in tempfs :)04:40
woot-0854ActionParsnip: NICE! no fstab04:41
witakrzykotick9, I am trying to set up Plex Media Server on my machine using my secondary HD as storage for my media. I have plex installed and running however it is not detecting my media. Any ideas?04:41
woot-0854that was where I was trying to go with it04:41
ActionParsnipwoot-0854: the changes will be lost next boot though04:41
zykotick9witakr: i've seen your "plex media server" issue - i can't help.  i have 0 idea what you need, but i guess it's SAMBA shares (and i don't help with that)04:42
witakrzykotick9, I understand. Thank you for your consideration.04:42
woot-0854lol @ sticky bits :p04:42
zykotick9witakr: but trying to change permissions on /dev stuff is certainly Alice ;)04:43
witakrIs there anyone here who is familiar with Plex media server and Plex media manager? I have them installed but PMM is not detecting my media on my secondary HD.04:43
woot-0854witakr: is it apple?04:44
nicaurysorry look this problem i have ubuntu 12.04 server install with raid1 today i reboot the system and the system no boot and have this error "UNKNOWN LVM METADATA HEADER". how to fix?04:44
witakrwoot-0854, Apple as in the company? As in the evil but scarily accurate representation of what is wrong with corporate mentality in the US? that Apple? No.04:45
woot-0854!woot | !woot04:46
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f00dMonstasadface, i wanted to use Unbuntu longer... but visual studio > me04:47
s3r3n1t7my mouse icon seems to repond rather slow. The moving is just fine, but if the icon changes to the busy icon and back it takes about 5-10 seconds longer than how long it actually is busy.04:51
lotuspsychjeis there another alternative for webcamstudio, streaming a video forced to webcam?04:52
DrManhattanwebcamstudio is the only thing I've seen work in linux04:52
DrManhattanpretty weak, you have camtwist in osx and a load of things in windows04:52
nicaurysorry look this problem i have ubuntu 12.04 server install with raid1 today i reboot the system and the system no boot and have this error "UNKNOWN LVM METADATA HEADER". how to fix?04:54
lotuspsychjeDrManhattan:tnx mate im not sure howto stream in webcamstudio, got any good tut?04:54
DrManhattanlotuspsychje, nah, I've only streamed with vlc and mencoder04:54
witakrIt seems the Plex channel is asleep. Is there anyone here who is familiar with Plex?04:54
zykotick9woot-0854: just to show my GUI'ness, http://imagebin.org/229064 the WM is called awesome (if you haven't seen it before).  One of my mottos "if i can't run it in screen, what good is it to me?"04:54
woot-0854zykotick9: lawl i dont have a xsession atm :)04:57
NautilusI've set my unity launcher to disappear until I shove cursor left, but I'm remoted in and it isn't working.  How can I get back to undo that setting?04:58
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zykotick9woot-0854: even using screen to have multiple terminals displayed on the VTs, i still MUCH prefer the power of Xorg even if it's the power to display multiple terminals ;)04:59
woot-0854there i got it had to cat05:00
woot-0854thats cool05:00
woot-0854tmux?05:00
MarconMgood night05:00
MarconM\o05:00
witakrNautilus, Perhaps this video on youtube will help you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwRBZuloWVs05:01
witakrI promise it is not a Risk Astley video.05:01
woot-0854witakr: have you tired opening drive with diffrent O.S.?05:01
Nautiluswitakr: thanks, and lol05:02
ActionParsnipwitakr: i loved that rick roll thing, great song :)05:03
witakrwoot-0854, I use only Xubuntu but I have had Win7, LinuxMind, and OpenSUSE installed and had no trouble accessing the drive. Furthermore, I am able to access and make changes to it in Xubuntu how ever my problem with Plex led me to believe there may be an issue with permissions.05:03
zykotick9witakr: is it a upnp server you need?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers#UPNP_Mediaserver for 2 options.05:03
Nautiluswitakr: That video shows how to make it auto-hide. I did that already.  I need it to show again05:04
witakrNautilus, No problem. Hope that helps.05:04
woot-0854witakr: eek, not what I wanted to hear05:04
Nautilusis there a kbd shortcut?05:04
witakrNautilus, yes but in setting it to auto-hide you can deduce how to undo that change.05:04
Nautiluswitakr: I cant get to the settings page!05:05
Nautiluswitakr: Ohhhh, right-click on dexktop. sorry05:05
witakrzykotick9, I think that may be what I need. Possibly. Thank you. I will check in to that link.05:07
woot-0854zykotick9: do you use vlc?05:08
witakrActionParsnip, Yes, I agree. Although when I was inadvertently routed to that video I was disappointed to find something other than what i desired at that moment, I always finished the video. I enjoy the song as well.05:09
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jinuhi05:22
blackshirthi jinu05:22
jinuMy linux crash with the error : BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffffffff991131e005:24
akisi am looking for a command to see if my modem is installed on ttys0. efax-gtk cannot open ttys0.05:25
woot-0854zykotick9: >05:33
ActionParsnipjinu: have you tested your RAM using memtest86+ from Grub05:33
ActionParsnipakis: dmesg | grep tty    may show it05:34
akissystem returns: [    0.000000] console [tty0] enabled05:35
Lasivianheya, new to 12.04, and cannot figure out how to edit the default window manager05:36
woot-0854Lasivian: window manager?05:37
Lasivianwoot-0854: This might be Gnome, I cannot figure out how to get to the meat of the GUI05:37
woot-0854Lasivian: you trying to install new theme or modify !GNOME?05:38
Lasivianmodify05:38
woot-0854tried compiz?05:38
LasivianI want bars in different places, I want 4 desktops again, etc05:38
Lasiviancompiz says another manager is loaded05:38
slowzLasivian: install myunity, it will allow you to edit quite a bit of options05:39
Lasivianthanks05:39
woot-0854ty | slowz05:39
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Lasivianat least now I can google Unity for more info :)05:39
somethinginterestrying to find a super easy way to change my DNS servers via a script. Looked on Google, no luck.05:40
woot-0854somethinginteres: new ip?05:41
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akis!modem05:41
ubottuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up05:41
Rockhoundhi05:43
Rockhoundanyone know how to save upper terminal work in a txt file??05:43
woot-0854Rockhound: what is upper terminal?05:44
Hatorirockhound,whay you mean with upper terminal?05:44
Rockhoundsorry i mean i how to save scroll back data in a txt file?05:45
woot-0854Rockhound: scroll back?05:45
woot-0854like long output?05:45
Hatoriyou mean redirection?05:45
HatoriSome command > somefile.txt05:45
Rockhoundno no i know tht already05:46
Rockhoundi mean scrollback data05:46
Rockhoundlike if i typed ls command05:46
woot-0854ps -ef|cat > somefile.txt?05:46
woot-0854like that?05:46
Rockhoundnow i hav to save it a txt file without using ls > a.txt05:46
Spoomanyone have any idea about how long it ought to take to reformat a hard drive off a live cd?05:47
SpoomGParted just says "operation pending" and i don't know the progres05:47
Spoomprogress*05:47
woot-0854Spoom: I have had 2min-20min05:48
woot-0854Spoom: on damaged hd05:48
Spoomso like 90 minutes is an indication that something's going wrong05:48
woot-0854Spoom: I would assume05:48
woot-08543gbps?05:48
woot-0854gigs?05:48
Spoomit's like 128 gigs05:49
jinuActionParsnip: ya05:49
Rockhoundno05:49
jinuI got error like this 'error:too small lower memory'05:49
Rockhoundlike if i some did some worked in terminal and now i have to save it in a txt file?05:49
Spoomwhat's another good way to wipe a drive then? i'm trying to get it ready to get windows reinstalled on it05:49
Spoomand GParted isn't cutting it05:49
woot-0854fdisk05:49
woot-0854or the parted command05:50
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Spoomalright thanks05:50
Spoomi'll check that out05:50
woot-0854:)05:50
Rockhoundhello05:51
Hatorihello05:51
woot-0854what is service stop command?05:51
Rockhoundplz help if i did some work in terminal and now i have to save it in a txt file..how to make it possible?05:51
woot-0854like to stop vnc05:52
jinuActionParsnip: is it a problem with my RAM?05:52
akiswhy although my driver's modem is installed (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216201/) efax cannot open ttys0 (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216202/)? Any idea to fix it?05:59
ActionParsnipjinu: possibly06:00
int_uahttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com looks down from here.06:00
ActionParsnipint_ua: works here, try http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/06:01
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int_uait was copypaste from isup.me06:01
int_uaActionParsnip: have you checked it seconds ago? I'm in Ukraine and you?06:02
ActionParsniphi chalcedony06:02
ActionParsnipint_ua: yes, just before I got the page test page06:02
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chalcedonyActionParsnip, very lovely to see you06:02
WACOMalthey folks I have a big problem. I was using VirtualBox and my display freaked out (never done that before in long time use) Unity got all garbled and I had to reboot. On reboot I get this error. Typically this was in tty1 but I managed to get unity to launch from a terminal this time and the same error printed there (and I could grab it now) anyways can anyone tell me what this is?06:02
WACOMalthttp://www.blindmanstudio.com/dropbox/Selection_012.png06:02
ActionParsnipint_ua: can you ping the domain by name?06:02
ActionParsnipint_ua: ping -c 4 cdimage.ubuntu.com06:03
int_ua64 bytes from zaniah.canonical.com (91.189.92.164): icmp_req=1 ttl=53 time=42.2 ms06:03
int_uaActionParsnip: oh, and the browser just loaded it06:04
ActionParsnipint_ua: I get 91.189.92.17406:04
int_uaActionParsnip: looks like it's under heavy load. Takes half a minute to respond06:05
cowsquadcan anyone tell me how to add files with ark to a current directory06:05
WACOMaltugh, its happening again06:06
int_uaand 91.189.92.174 is instant06:06
WACOMaltWhy every time I change ANYTHING in compiz does my whole unity crash and refuse to restart06:06
WACOMaltCurrently running without a window manager :/ lucky I can type this time06:06
ActionParsnipWACOMalt: how are you modifying your compiz settings?06:07
WACOMaltcompiz config manager06:07
WACOMaltor whatever it is06:07
ActionParsnipWACOMalt: thats why06:07
WACOMaltO_o06:07
WACOMalteverything says to use that...06:07
ActionParsnipWACOMalt: use myunity or ubuntu-tweak06:07
ActionParsnipWACOMalt: yeah its known to cause issues06:07
WACOMaltwhy is compiz manager available in the repos if it doesnt work?06:07
WACOMaltok, how do I get unity back then06:08
WACOMalt&& unity06:08
ActionParsnipWACOMalt: run:  unity --reset06:08
WACOMaltok we're back06:08
WACOMaltthe error is in d-bus in compiz settings06:09
WACOMaltI need to turn that setting on for Shutter to work06:09
WACOMalthow do I notify the Ubuntu folks to take compiz-settings-manager down from the repos?06:10
WACOMaltumm Closed out the terminal that was running unity aparantly06:10
bazhangWACOMalt, you dont. file a bug06:10
WACOMaltif its know to cause problems I figured there already was one (in which case, no action has been taken to at least prevent peoplke from downloading it?))06:11
WACOMaltI'll file one though06:11
WACOMaltOk, where in Unity-Tweak are the compiz settings and how do I enable d-bus access?06:11
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ActionParsnipWACOMalt: ubuntu-tweak, it's in a 3rd party PPA. myunity is in the official repos06:12
WACOMaltI have Ubuntu Tweak06:12
WACOMaltwhere are the compiz settings06:12
ActionParsnipplease? do you have zero manners?06:13
ActionParsnipWACOMalt: not sure to be honest, if you flick around you'll bump into stuff you can tweak06:13
witakrOOOOOOOOOOKK... Well, I think I have confirmation on my theory regarding restricted permissions on my secondary HD. My Plex log files is returning a "Permission Denied" error in its log file.06:13
WACOMaltSorry If I'm being rude, I'm just kinda suprised that a known buggy software is ravaging my system... Thank you for your help, I know you dont get paid for the support and I do appreciate it.06:14
WACOMaltDoes anyone know where compiz settings are in Unity Tweak please? I cannot find them.06:15
WACOMaltor, is it possible to activate D-Bus access via a cofig file somewhere?06:15
ActionParsnipWACOMalt: have you tried in myunity06:17
WACOMaltI havent, I'll get it.06:18
WACOMaltis it in a PPA or in the software center?06:18
ActionParsnipWACOMalt: Compiz can be a real pain, I just avoid it. Totally not worth it imho06:18
ActionParsnip!info myunity06:18
ubottumyunity (source: myunity): Unity configurator. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.3-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 529 kB, installed size 1125 kB06:18
WACOMaltthat told me not much :P06:19
WACOMaltcomponent universe? O_o06:19
ActionParsnipWACOMalt: yes, enable universe repo and install. You probably already enabled it06:20
WACOMaltis leaving a review on compiz settings manager the same as filing a bug? if not, where do I report a bug?06:20
sliffstarhttp://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=node%3D468204&field-keywords=php&rh=n%3A283155%2Cn%3A!2349030011%2Cn%3A465600%2Cn%3A468204%2Ck%3Aphp06:20
WACOMaltah yes, there it is06:20
smoothseasI have a gui app called CompizConfig on my Ubuntu system06:21
bazhangsliffstar, whats that. why post that here06:21
WACOMaltsmoothseas, dont use it. ever.06:21
WACOMaltok ActionParsnip I am in MyUnity now, do you know where I should look?06:22
ActionParsnipWACOMalt: not sure, I'm at work on windows at the moment, sorry06:22
WACOMaltok06:22
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WACOMaltWhat files do these tools actually edit? Specifically the broken compiz settings manager?  Id rather just edit the configs and manually enable dbus access06:22
nlkl:)06:23
WACOMaltor cleanly disable it at this point, it seems to be 1/2 and 1/2 enabled06:23
nickBuntuhey all06:23
nlklnickBuntu hi :)06:23
nickBuntucan someone tell me what i can't ftp into .gvfs dir?06:23
nickBuntuI have proftp setup on ubuntu 12.0406:24
usr13nickBuntu: localhost06:24
nickBuntuI want to provide ftp acces into the .gvfs folder so the files are downloadable/viewable via ftp06:24
usr13nickBuntu: ftp localhost06:24
usr13nickBuntu: So what is .gvfs?06:25
smoothseasworks fine for me WACOM06:25
WACOMaltuntil it doesnt06:25
WACOMaltit worked fine for me for awhile too06:25
WACOMalttry enabling D-Bus06:25
nickBuntu.gvfs is Gnome Virtual File System for mounting smb;// without root06:25
smoothseasmaybe something else caused YOUR problems06:26
bazhangWACOMalt, so file a bug. complaining here will accomplish nothing06:26
WACOMaltI'm not complaining.. I'm warning.06:26
nickBuntuI've tried symbolic links into the folder.  wont work, permission denied messages06:26
bazhangWACOMalt, what exactly are you trying to do, be very clear.06:26
usr13nickBuntu: Normally, services like ftp work on user access.06:26
WACOMaltI am trying to enable D-Bus access to Shutter (a promoted app in the software center) will work06:26
nickBuntuHHHmmmm I think the sudo is playing permissions06:27
usr13nickBuntu: What exactly is .gvfs ?06:27
WACOMaltwhen I checked that box in compiz everything glitched out, unity crashed, and I had a heck of a time getting it back up to even uninstall compiz settings manager06:27
nickBuntu.gvfs is Gnome Virtual File system for mounting smb:// and other file systems06:27
WACOMaltIt is certainly possible that something else caused it but from the error message it seems the d-bus settings are now borked, which seems logical that compiz settings manager caused since I checked the box only in that program06:28
gerbilcabbagehaido you guys deal with ubuntu cli here?06:28
bazhanggerbilcabbagehai, whats the real question06:28
WACOMaltIn any case, my current question is how can I reset my compiz settings to default, and then manually enable D-Bus access, either through myunity, ubuntu tweak, or manually editing config files.06:29
gerbilcabbagehaii have lots of questions. all to do with cli. Is this the right place to ask them (im not ready to ask them yet) or should i look for another room?06:29
bazhanggerbilcabbagehai, try and see06:29
gerbilcabbagehaithanks bazhang :)06:30
bazhangWACOMalt, ask in #compiz06:30
WACOMaltok, thanks bazhang06:30
Lasivianahhhh, hoorah, gnomed again06:31
akisanyone can help me to make efax-gtk to open my modem port (ttySL0)? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216218/06:31
usr13nickBuntu: So, the ".gvfs" filesystem in the users home directory. Right?06:31
blackshirtgerbilcabbagehai: yes, you can do ask here06:31
usr13nickBuntu: http://blog.colovirt.com/2009/12/07/linux-filesystem-gnome-virtual-file-system-gvfs-remote-connectivity-cli/06:33
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nickBuntuyeh usr1306:34
nickBuntuit's in the users home directory06:34
WACOMaltHmm #compiz's response is far from optimistic. They claim Canonical's code is to blame. :/ I really dont want to get caught in a finger pointing battle here, but in you guy's oppinion, where does the fault lie that is causing Compiz settings manager (or just compiz itself?) to be so buggy? So that I may properly report my bugs.06:34
WACOMaltAgain, I'm not complaining. I just want to get this fixed. So far it seem slike it hasnt improved since the first time I used compiz (years ago)06:35
usr13nickBuntu: Yea, so where are you running into difficulty.06:35
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WACOMaltHow much does professional support from Ubuntu cost? I'm willing to pay whatever it costs to get this fixed...06:37
WACOMaltwait a minute... is it a possibility that Shutter is incorrectly acessing compiz's D-Bus library and causing this problem?06:39
gerbilcabbagehaiWACOMalt: if you want paid support http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/contact is probably your best best06:39
gerbilcabbagehai*bet06:39
WACOMaltok, thank you very much06:40
WACOMaltugh, two working days T_T06:40
gerbilcabbagehai<chuckle>06:40
WACOMaltO_o06:40
WACOMaltThat's two days of income I dont make...06:40
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usr13WACOMalt: http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/contact06:41
WACOMaltalready got it usr13 but thanks06:42
gerbilcabbagehaiWACOMalt: are you in need of tech support "right away"?06:42
eludshf06:42
WACOMaltyes.06:42
elolas06:42
elamores06:42
usr13WACOMalt: (You can cll them on the phone...)06:42
elcmo stan06:42
WACOMaltI have to work tomorrow morning06:42
FloodBot1el: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:42
WACOMaltoh!06:42
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Guest90254fuck06:42
IdleOne!language | Guest9025406:42
ubottuGuest90254: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.06:42
WACOMaltusr13, where is the phone support number?06:43
usr13Main switchboard number: +44 20 7630 240006:43
WACOMaltwhat country is that?06:44
IdleOneLondon06:44
gerbilcabbagehaiother contact details also : http://www.ubuntu.com/contact-us WACOMalt06:44
WACOMaltok, long distance time :P06:44
Guest90254aoras06:44
WACOMaltthere we go, thank you gerbilcabbagehai06:44
Guest90254dnd verga verga toii06:44
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Guest90254valen todos verga mmv06:44
WACOMalt!it Guest9025406:45
WACOMalthmm what's the italian command :P06:45
usr13!it | Guest1243506:45
ubottuGuest12435: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)06:45
WACOMaltah forgot the pipe.06:45
IdleOnethat wasn't italian06:45
IdleOneanyway, they are gonre06:45
IdleOnegone*06:45
WACOMaltoh sorry, google translate detected it as italian.06:45
gerbilcabbagehai\o/06:46
WACOMaltok well I guess I cant find out much more in here or #compiz tonight. Thank you guys for what you were able to help me with, at least I know the fault is somewhere in the compiz code. I'll try to file a bug report tonight.06:46
witakrIs there a way to allow specific software permissions to read/write to a specific drive or directory therein?06:48
usr13witakr: Yes06:49
witakrCould someone help walk me through the process of allowing specific software permission to read/write to a specific drive or directory therein?06:50
bazhangwitakr, need details, a lot more06:51
ZhilCan I add my own applications to the "quick search"?06:51
witakrI have a secondary HD which i use to store media such as movies and music. I am running Plex (from plexapp.com) to manage that media an allow me to stream them to my other devices. A log file from the plex app tells me that during a scan of my secondary HD for media it was given an error of "Permission Denied".06:53
witakrbazhang, Perhaps if I set the permissions properly the plex app will be able to scan and access those media files.06:54
gerbilcabbagehaiwhat is the command to mount a usb drive and copy the entire contents over to... documents?06:54
witakrbazhang,  This is what I am trying to accomplish.06:54
subcool_TJ-, me06:57
gerbilcabbagehaiwhat is the command to identify devices? ls?06:57
bazhanggerbilcabbagehai, lsusb? lspci? sudo lshw? dmesg? which one06:57
blackshirtgerbilcabbagehai: you should identify your devices, you can use it with fdisk -l06:58
gerbilcabbagehaithanks blackshirt06:58
blackshirtgerbilcabbagehai: and show the output, ensure that devices was your usb06:58
witakrFrom my last scan attmept this was produce and logged in the Plex Server log file: Sep 20, 2012 01:58:22 [0x7f1898310740] WARN - Caught exception while scanning Movies: boost::filesystem::status: Permission denied: "/media/witTV/witTV/Movies"06:59
test__Hello! could someone help with the ubuntu 12.04 and ALC262 sound card problem? I managed to get sound by using this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils gdm ubuntu-desktop  linux-image-`uname -r` libasound2; sudo apt-get -y --reinstall install linux-sound-base alsa-base...07:00
test__...alsa-utils gdm ubuntu-desktop  linux-image-`uname -r` libasound2; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*; sudo usermod -aG `cat /etc/group | grep -e '^pulse:' -e '^audio:' -e '^pulse-access:' -e '^pulse-rt:' -e '^video:' | awk -F: '{print $1}' | tr '\n' ',' | sed 's:,$::g'` `whoami`07:00
gerbilcabbagehaiblackshirt: do i need to sudo with that?07:01
test__but the problem is when i put in headphone jack it plays both headphones and speakers and when i pull it out sound is gone and then i have to do reinstall because it won't come back07:01
blackshirtgerbilcabbagehai: usually not needed07:02
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gerbilcabbagehaiwhen i type fdisk -l nothing happens07:02
mcatch_woot07:02
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: sudo required07:03
mcatch_finally got ubuntu working! so glad to be back and learning linux again07:03
mcatch_piece of advice, don't dual boot ubuntu w/ windows 8... was a nightmare and a half. had to revert back to win707:03
gerbilcabbagehaibetter, thanks somsip07:03
test__anyone07:04
test__?07:04
blackshirttest__: what you need ?07:04
gerbilcabbagehaisomsip: is there a way to auto mount usb in cli?07:04
test__it's written above would be ubuntu 12.04 and ALC262 sound card problem07:04
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test__when jack is in sound comes from everywhere when its out no sound and reinstall couse sound is gone forever07:05
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: I had this - it wouldn't recognise inserted USB drives in 12.04 64bit? I got it working, so I'll see if I can remind myself what I did...07:06
gerbilcabbagehaii have 32bit07:06
gerbilcabbagehaiif that helps / changes anything07:06
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: any error message - like 'Not Authorised' when you try to access it?07:07
sovanharitage@200807:08
gerbilcabbagehaino, it's working properly doing it manually, i just want to make it easier on myself when i have lots of usb sticks to copy over to my server :)07:08
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: sorry -  different problem to what I had then07:08
IledenProblem: My netbook loses it's WLAN capability after a random amount of time. It still sees all the networks, and tries to connect to them, but fails (promprts for authentication key). This does happen in the middle of using the WLAN. A reboot always fixes the issue. This does not happen in Win7 (dualboot). Only started to do this after 12.04 update.07:09
IledenHow should I try to debug this to pinpoint the problem?07:09
gerbilcabbagehaii saw something (script?) about automounting audio cd's, ripping them to drive in flac, then transcoding them to mp3. I have a fair amount of cd's that i want to get onto my home server. and usb files with some of my work backups. id like to streamline my process by creating a automount usb script, so that i can plug in, walk away07:11
gerbilcabbagehaii need some help in creating said scripts and or command line commands while I do this.07:12
test__sometimes this channel is as helpful as a dead horse...07:12
* gerbilcabbagehai kicks the dead horse07:12
gerbilcabbagehai:)07:12
gerbilcabbagehaitest__: I know i've done some audio work in ubuntu and had a nightmare of a time. maybe i can help you think the issues through? what have you tried already?07:14
gerbilcabbagehaitest__: Q, why would removing hardware, i.e. your headphone jack remove sound? is there likely to be another problem?07:16
test__no i mean i reinstall oall os couse after pluging in and out the jack i didn't manage to turn it bask on not from system sound setings nor with alsamixer07:17
gerbilcabbagehaicli or gui?07:17
Iledengerbilcabbagehai: You might try askubuntu.com or superuser.com, if nobody on this channel is interested.07:17
gerbilcabbagehaitest__: cli or gui?07:18
test__what does that mean? Be aware you are comunicating with a total Linux noob07:19
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gerbilcabbagehaii am too test__ :) cli = command line interface, gui = graphical user interface07:19
test__gui07:20
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witakrI may or may not return. I need to restart. Thank you for your help.07:20
gerbilcabbagehaii find it strange that unplugging a jack would cause your system to lose all sound. i suspect there is a different problem. Why are you using that script and where did you get it from? test__07:21
test__Googled "sound troubleshooting ubuntu" it's from ubuntu site07:22
somsiptest__: it's not good form to suggest googling here, but if you search for "ubuntu 12.04 and ALC262 sound card problem" you will find that this soundcard seems to be a problem with ubuntu. Have you tried any other solutions as it's clearly quiet time in here and not many people are around to help07:23
gerbilcabbagehaitest__: can i assume your speakers are plugged into the back of the computer and the headphones are plugged into the speaker jack?07:23
test__I even found that there is registered bug about alc262 sound card and Ubuntu I tried a lot of manuals nothing worked so far so I came here for help07:24
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test__Its fujitsu laptop so only one speaker jack is available07:24
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gerbilcabbagehaitest__: ah laptop. :( inbuilt realtek soundcard07:25
test__Yes07:25
gerbilcabbagehaitest__: sorry i assumed it was a desktop.07:25
Calinoudon't assume computers are desktops today07:25
Calinoumore like tablets :p07:25
gerbilcabbagehaiyeah :) thanks. I made an ass out of me :)07:25
gerbilcabbagehaitest__: so, are you using the right drivers for the soundcard?07:26
test__it's ok at least you try to help not just mock other people :P07:26
test__Gone for a smoke back in 10 min.07:26
gerbilcabbagehaiok07:26
gerbilcabbagehaiwhy do i mkdir to mount usb drives?07:27
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: From what you say, automount is not working07:27
gerbilcabbagehaiI haven't set it up yet i think, from CLI07:28
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: then that's why you need to create a mountpoint07:28
gerbilcabbagehaisomsip: everytime i mount a usb or just once on the system?07:28
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: you tell me - you're asking the question07:28
gerbilcabbagehailol. ok. what is a mountpoint? im asking for understanding07:29
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: usually, when a USB drive or pendrive or CD or DVD is inserted, the OS figures it out, creates a dir in /mnt or /media which is where the contents of the drive/CD/DVD are mounted. Does your not do this?07:30
gerbilcabbagehaisomsip: in command line it does this also?07:30
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somsipgerbilcabbagehai: that question makes no sense. Normally the OS mounts a drive of CD/DVD automatically. Which means you don't need to do anything07:31
gerbilcabbagehaisomsip: i am in ubuntu server 12.04 32 bit. Does automounting happen in server commandline?07:32
timfrostgerbilcabbagehai: is this system running ubuntu server?07:32
gerbilcabbagehaitimfrost: yes07:32
chamunks!uvccapture07:34
chamunksAnyone know what package I should install if i want to plug a webcam into ubuntu 12.04 lts server07:34
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: the official wiki suggests the manual approach should be used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Automounting_.28Ubuntu_Server.2907:36
timfrostgerbilcabbagehai: that makes sense.  A mount point is the directory that you specify to use as the base for the file system on the USB (or CD/DVD). The GUI automatically creates a direecdtory under /media for the device.  On server, you need to create /mnt to use as the mount point, and specify that in the mount command07:36
gerbilcabbagehaichamunks: seen these? http://askubuntu.com/questions/63922/how-do-i-set-up-a-webcam-server-for-http, http://hacktivision.com/index.php/2009/06/16/setting-up-an-ubuntu-webcam-server07:36
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: but also suggests looking at usbmount07:36
chamunks thanks gerbilcabbagehai07:36
blackshirtgerbilcabbagehai:  I think you should play with udev07:36
gerbilcabbagehaithanks somsip and timfrost07:36
gerbilcabbagehaimanning udev now07:36
gerbilcabbagehaiudev looks interesting blackshirt07:37
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gerbilcabbagehaithanks07:37
chamunksgerbilcabbagehai, would those run well as daemons?07:38
blackshirtgerbilcabbagehai: learn how to write some udev rules,07:38
gerbilcabbagehaihow can i suppress joining messages in empathy?07:38
gerbilcabbagehaichamunks: no idea. I just googled them for you. You tell me if they work for you. :)07:38
chamunksfair07:39
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retrorexdoes any1 know linux command for listing file systems with label unlike fdisk07:41
Kartagisman ls07:42
retrorexfdisk listing with label of the drive07:42
retrorexkay07:43
gerbilcabbagehaiWhy are there many "man's" for things not installed?07:43
mortezahow to stop gnome?07:43
codemaniacmay be /proc/partition has all you want07:43
gerbilcabbagehaimorteza: kill gnome?07:44
deffragHello! I'm trying to get VNC working following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC . I'm trying to connect to my desktop from laptop, both in the same local network. Both systems are running Ubuntu12.04 desktop. Desktop is more like a headless machine now with no display, keyboard, mouse attached. I can ssh into the system.Following the post, here are my attempts - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216304/ Can anyone help me connect? What am I missing?07:44
blackshirtmorteza: $sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop07:44
blackshirtmorteza: or service gdm stop07:44
mortezablackshirt: I haven't any file with dgm name under the init.d dir07:44
Squall56681morteza: stop lightdm07:44
blackshirtmorteza: its depend your ubuntu version....07:45
mortezablackshirt: last version07:45
blackshirtmorteza: newer ubuntu using lightdm07:45
blackshirtmorteza: last version using lightdm07:45
mortezaSquall56681 , blackshirt thanks guys ;)07:46
timfrostdeffrag: what happens if you run  the vnc command with '-display $DISPLAY'? Does the ssh session set $DISPLAY?07:47
mortezaclear07:47
ping__hy07:48
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gerbilcabbagehaiis a mountpoint temporary?07:48
ping__what function shared library07:48
chamunkshttp://sourceforge.net/projects/mjpg-streamer/ this wont install for some reason :P07:49
ping__#ldd /bin/ls07:49
deffragtimfrost: Let me try with '-display $DISPLAY'. From laptop, the ssh command used is ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 test@desktop.  Moreover, the desktop is most likely on lightdm login screen07:49
chamunkssorry for the dumb question.07:49
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: the OS must know where the new filesystem is located.07:49
chamunksthe tutorial I'm using is this fellows http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-nIUgB35OQ07:49
chamunksbasically I need to take /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 and /dev/video2 and pipe them each to their own web address.07:50
gerbilcabbagehaisomsip: e.g. in your example, if I insert a CD in GUI, does the system create a new mountpoint, then when i remove the cd it removes the mountpoint?07:50
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: you had this answer already. If you are using server edition, the system does nothing. Unless you enable automounting. Have you?07:50
lotuspsychjehowto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer and screen corruption on cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed?07:51
somsiplotuspsychje: wow - you've had this one for ages :-(07:51
lotuspsychjesomsip:i cant get rid of it mate07:51
timfrostdeffrag: do you have the VNC server running as described in the tutorial?  My previous suggestion uses tunnelling of the X traffic, not the VNC session.07:52
deffragtimfrost: It says "not enough arguments for: -display" on trying '-display $DISPLAY'. The command used, as mentioned in the paste above, uses <x11vnc -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0> asper the wiki07:52
lotuspsychjesomsip:well i can get rid of it with nomodeset add to grub, but then compiz aint working07:52
gerbilcabbagehaisomsip:  im asking for clarity, so i understand what the ubuntu is doing. i understand i have to do it manually (or enable automount), im asking why it is doing what it does. Is it because mountpoints are temporary, each time you insert/remove a drive? Or do mountpoints stay in memory?07:53
somsiplotuspsychje: not that I know how to help on this, but what does it look like? Can you paste a screenie?07:53
deffragtimfrost: I installed x11vnc and openssh-server on desktop and openssh-cleint and openssh-server installed in laptop07:53
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: If automount is working, a mountpoint will be created that can be read/write by plugdev group. When the drive/disk is ejected, the mountpoint is removed07:54
freakolowskylo ... anyone here got a clue about configuring acpi governors?07:54
splnhey if i downgrade my laptop memory from a 1333mhz to a 1066mhz do you think there will be a big performace difference ?07:54
gerbilcabbagehaisomsip: cool thanks. that makes sense07:55
lotuspsychjesomsip:well when i take a screenshot on screen corruption u cant see desktop nomore07:55
somsiplotuspsychje: well, only cos I saw this but I appreciate it's clutching at straws: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21295/mouse-pointer-strange-problem07:56
somsiplotuspsychje: the xorg.conf change looked unusual enough to be interesting07:56
lotuspsychjesomsip:yes its something like that07:56
lotuspsychjesomsip:but i tested the xorg swcursor, it didnt fix07:57
somsiplotuspsychje: kk07:57
timfrostdeffrag: you need a VNC client on the laptop, and run that.  That will be passed to the desktop, because of the ssh '-L 5900:localhost:5900 '07:57
ZhilCan I add my own applications to the "quick search" thing in unity? I.e the thing that shows up pressing "windows key"07:58
lotuspsychjesomsip:i got similar issues like this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/55678207:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 556782 in linux (Ubuntu) "[rs690m] Graphics corruption with ati x1200" [High,Triaged]07:58
deffragtimfrost: Um, so you mean. I should run that ssh command to desktop and then start vnc on laptop?07:58
somsiplotuspsychje: high...critical...unassigned. Hmmm07:58
lotuspsychjesomsip:what does that mean?07:59
somsiplotuspsychje: looks like you're waiting for this to be fixed. It's been accepted. It's been flagged as critical. But not done yet07:59
lotuspsychjesomsip:ic i tryed ubuntu-bugs too with no luck08:00
somsiplotuspsychje: well, if they agree it's a problem but haven't yet come up with a patch, maybe there is little much else to do for now08:00
lotuspsychjesomsip:i also got this bug on several systems, with older ati cards08:00
timfrostdeffrag: you need to start the VNC server on the desktop after logging in to the desktop, then start a VNC client on the laptop08:01
freakolowskyok, i'll just ask ... when my laptop is running on battery cpu is limited to the lowest frequency scaling_max_freq = scaling_min_freq .... anyone know a way to prevent this? ... i'm using i've tried default kernel, compiled 3.4 with default governor ondemand and with default governor  userspace ... i'm using 12.04 and the laptop is a HP EB 8540w08:01
lotuspsychjesomsip:ok tnx anyway mate08:02
deffragtimfrost: Yes, I'm logged in to the desktop. How do I start VNC server? "x11vnc -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0" ? And then start a VNC client on laptop?08:02
somsiplotuspsychje: just showing an interest08:02
lotuspsychjesomsip:apreciate it man08:02
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m3powhello!08:04
blackshirtm3pow: hello08:04
m3powcan anyone help me install a ppa to solve the unity issue regarding the launchpad tooltip ?08:05
awaadI am watching a video of about 45 minutes from ubuntu site explaining how to use quickly and glade. When I follow it step by step I stopped when the instructor changed the style of the toolbar into a darker one08:05
awaadI found that the problem is that in my default template I found in the top (import gtk) and in his default template(from gi.repository import Gtk)08:05
m3powhello blackshirt08:05
m3powthis to be more specific : https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/103416408:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1034164 in unity (Ubuntu Precise) "[SRU Regression] Unity 5.14 + Nux 2.14: Launcher tooltips are incomplete/missing" [High,Fix committed]08:05
timfrostdeffrag: there should be an option to start x11vnc as a server.  From the pastebin, it seems that it might have already been running (which may be because of the '-once', but I don't know for sure).  Yes, start a vnc client on the laptp08:06
m3powi noticed 2 fixes,  one is to install a ppa that is given in that webpage or get the latest ver or unity 5.1608:06
somsipm3pow: can you not wait a few days until this is available in standard repos?08:06
Squall5668which is also the best thing to do08:07
m3powi don't mind at all !08:07
m3pow:)08:07
m3powjust did not know it might come so fast08:07
somsipm3pow: that might be an easy solution. Or you have to enable proposed updates, which might bring in stuff you don't want08:07
m3powand to install that ppa ?08:08
somsip!proposed | m3pow08:08
m3pow!proposed08:08
somsipHmm didn't think so: Enabling the proposed updates repository can break your system. It is not recommended for inexperienced users.08:08
tsimpson!archives08:08
tsimpsonhmm08:08
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tsimpson!repositories | m3pow08:09
ubottum3pow: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories08:09
somsipm3pow: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Testing/EnableProposed08:09
m3powthanks somsip08:10
somsipm3pow: you have been warned!08:10
kong67.222.131.211 63471 !managensis!08:12
m3powi ain't doing anything mate, i'll just wait a couple more days that's all08:12
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MiteshShahhow to modify eth0 speed08:16
MiteshShahI'm used following command08:16
MiteshShahethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full08:16
Mikatoczesc mowi ktos z moim jezyku?08:16
MiteshShahits works08:16
MiteshShahbut ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full is not work08:16
somsip!pl | Mikato08:16
ubottuMikato: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.08:16
wdphey, how can i remove ppa sources?08:17
Mikatojezuuuuuuu08:17
somsipwdp: cd /etc/apt/sources.lilst.d and delete them. Probably another way in GUI08:18
wdpterminal is fine.08:18
somsip*sources.list.d08:18
kyanHi¸where should I ask a build error question?08:18
TJ-MiteshShah: Is 1000 advertised as a link mode?08:19
wdpSomeguy123, ty was workin.08:19
wdperrm.08:19
wdpsomsip, :)08:19
somsipwdp: np08:19
MiteshShahTJ-, how to check it08:20
TJ-MiteshShah: "ethtool eth0"08:21
MiteshShahTJ-, http://pastebin.com/fjRG0m4y08:22
MiteshShahTJ-, i'm attached ethtool & lshw output08:22
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TJ-MiteshShah: That report says eth0 only supports 10/10008:24
greekHi what is the latest version of firefox supported by ubuntu?08:28
marcgreek: Firefox 1508:28
greekIs it version 5? Because I see on the firefox website version 1508:28
greekmarc: I'm on version 5 but in synapctec the upgrade option is greyed out08:28
marcgreek: What version of Ubuntu are you using ?08:29
greekhow do I upgrade firefox from command line?08:29
greek11.0408:29
marcgreek: Ok. Well first, you should upgrade to the latest version of Ubuntu, which is 12.04. Then you can download F15 from their website or through the Software Center08:30
crizisgreek, just upgrade to 12.04 already :)08:30
crizisyou must first upgrade to 11.10 though08:30
greekhaha ok08:30
greeksomething to do this weekend08:30
greekthanks fellas :)08:30
marcgreek: My pleasure :)08:31
gerbilcabbagehaihow do i copy a folder from a mounted usb drive to the www folder on a ubuntu?08:31
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: cp -R /mnt/drive/folder /var/www/08:32
TJ-somsip: That may not work without 'sudo' since /var/www/ is restricted08:32
gerbilcabbagehaisomsip: ah "var"! i was looking in etc08:32
gerbilcabbagehaithanks08:32
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: Ah yes - what TJ- says. I have group priviledges so forgot08:32
Doxin_I'm having enormous trouble installing windows alongside linux, for some reason windows is using some form of new style partition gedit wont recognise. any ideas wtf is going on?08:33
gerbilcabbagehaiDoxin_: W8?08:33
ikoniaDoxin_: 1.) drop the language like "wtf" 2.) give us some info, and lets work it out08:33
Doxin_gerbilcabbagehai: w708:33
Doxin_ikonia: what info do you need?08:33
ikoniaDoxin_: 1.) what version of windows 2.) what version of ubuntu 3.) what type of install you're doing 4.) what the error/problem is08:33
MiteshShahTJ-, that means my eth0 cann't support 100008:34
TJ-Doxin_: If the PC has an EFI firmware, Wndows is possibly using a GPT08:34
gerbilcabbagehaiDoxin_: and what order you are trying to do them in too08:34
Doxin_gerbilcabbagehai: windows first, then linux08:34
gordonjcpDonnw: wait, what? "partition gedit won't recognise"?08:34
TJ-MiteshShah: Correct. But if you look closely, you'll see that eth1 does support 1000. Have you got them confused?08:34
gordonjcpDonnw: disregard, sorry08:34
ikoniaDoxin_: ok - so aat this time, is windows installed ?08:34
gordonjcpDoxin_: why are you trying to edit a partition with gedit?08:34
Doxin_ikonia: sure,08:34
ikoniaDoxin_: windows is installed at this moment ?08:35
Doxin_gordonjcp: to customise the layout.08:35
ikoniawhoaaa08:35
Doxin_ikonia: yes08:35
ikoniaedit a partition with gedit08:35
ikoniaI missed that part08:35
TJ-I think Doxin_ means "gparted" :p08:35
MiteshShahyes i know and thats the reason i'm asking why eth1 has 1000 and eth0 only support 10008:35
Doxin_gordonjcp: *gparted08:35
ikoniaphew08:35
ikoniaok08:35
gordonjcpDoxin_: aha, that makes more sense08:35
* TJ- giggles 08:35
gerbilcabbagehaiphew indeed lol08:35
MiteshShahTJ-, yes i know and thats the reason i'm asking why eth1 has 1000 and eth0 only support 10008:35
Natherulhey all, anyone know how to and able to guide me on how to install wow on ubuntu 12.04? tried playonlinux without success08:35
ikoniaDoxin_: ok, so is Windows taking up the whole disk08:35
Doxin_ikonia: yes.08:35
ikoniaDoxin_: ok, so you want to reduce the size of hte windows partition to allow ubuntu to  be installed, correct ?08:36
TJ-MiteshShah: It depends on the hardware chipset. Some systems have older chips for one port and newer chips for others08:36
Doxin_ikonia: correct08:36
gordonjcpDoxin_: editing a partition with gedit would indicate that you are an utterly misguided noob, or ridiculously hardcore ;-)08:36
ikoniaDoxin_: perfect ok, now we understand. Is this windows 7 ?08:36
Doxin_ikonia: yes08:36
TJ-MiteshShah: Look at the output of lshw - it details that the system has 2 different network controllers08:36
gerbilcabbagehaisomsip: if i just do cp -R /media/usb /var/www/ would that do it?08:36
ikoniaDoxin_: excellent, and you are booting an Ubuntu 12.04 livecd to re-size ?08:36
Doxin_ikonia: yes08:36
ikoniaDoxin_: final question, how big is this disk ?08:37
Doxin_ikonia: 2tb08:37
ikoniathere we go08:37
ikoniagpt partition table08:37
Doxin_ikonia: hmm?08:37
MiteshShahTJ-, That means if i swap the ports then eth0 support 1000 and eth1 has down to 100 right08:37
awaadIs there any simple method in order to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my Laptop using my USB Flash Memory ?08:37
ikoniaDoxin_: if the disk is 2GB or over windows will install using a GTP partition table08:37
MiteshShahTJ-, yes i know one is intel and another is realtek08:37
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: if you want the entire contents from the usb drive into the www folder, and if you have permissions to read from /media/usb and write to /var/www and want any files in /var/ww that have the same names to be overwritten by new ones08:37
TJ-MiteshShah: swap the ports? you mean change the names of the ports?08:37
TJ-MiteshShah: is there any reason you can't just configure eth1 instead of eth0 ?08:38
Doxin_ikonia: no, it's refusing that. If I partition it using gparted then install windows it's complaining about not supporting gpt partition tables08:38
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ikoniaDoxin_: that's excactly what I've just said08:38
ikoniaDoxin_: gpt partition tables08:38
Doxin_ikonia: okay08:39
Doxin_so...08:39
* gerbilcabbagehai nervously types that in and pushes enter somsip08:39
Doxin_now what?08:39
gerbilcabbagehaisomsip: I see a red light blinking! i thinks its working08:39
ikoniaDoxin_: I'm looking at gpt support for gparted, if that's not an option, you'll need to use another tool, or re-install windows on a smaller partition08:39
exalthello, how normal is it that libre office is not showing up when i alt-tab through my running applications ?08:39
gerbilcabbagehaisomsip:  omg, that sounded ... lame from me08:40
Doxin_ikonia: if I partition using windows gparted can't see the partition08:40
ikoniaDoxin_: yes, I know that, I've just explained why08:40
gerbilcabbagehai"I see a red light blinking"...08:40
Doxin_ikonia: okay...08:40
MiteshShahactually we configure my system ad squid proxy server and on eth1 is connected to the internet and eth0 has lan so i don''t want to mess with working settings08:40
MiteshShahTJ-,  actually we configure my system ad squid proxy server and on eth1 is connected to the internet and eth0 has lan so i don''t want to mess with working settings08:40
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: it may be that you are the only person who cares if it's blinking or if it appears lame08:40
Doxin_ikonia: wait, if I make the windows partition smaller, would that work?08:41
gerbilcabbagehaisomsip: yes i think thats the case. man gerbilcabbagehai08:41
ikoniaDoxin_: well, yes and no. Yes it would work as you wouldn't need to use gparted to repartition08:41
Doxin_ikonia: but?08:41
ikoniaDoxin_: no, it wouldn't work in that gparted would still not be able to see the partition if you wanted to change them later08:41
Doxin_ikonia: but installing linux next to it would work?08:42
ikoniaDoxin_: yes08:42
Doxin_awesome08:42
TJ-MiteshShah: OK... so you want to rename the ports then? The names are saved by udev into "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" . Edit that file as root, and swap the eth0 eth1 names around, save it, and reboot.08:42
ikoniaDoxin_: there is some documentation on gpt and gparted on the gparted sourceforge page, it's not conclusive.08:42
Doxin_ikonia: would windows see a ntfs partition i added later?08:42
awaadIs there any simple method in order to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my Laptop using my USB Flash Memory ?08:42
ikoniaDoxin_: sure08:43
Doxin_ikonia: problem solved08:43
Doxin_thanks08:43
Natherulhey all, anyone know how to and able to guide me on how to install wow on ubuntu 12.04? tried playonlinux without success08:43
gerbilcabbagehaiok another question somsip, I've copied the files over to my www folder. what options do i have to make the files appear in list format on my, www. Is there a dynamic "read all files and add the to a list" type command i can do?08:43
TJ-Doxin_: From the Windows Disk Management you can shrink an already-installed live NTFS file-system08:43
mirage91Doxin_,  sudo dd if=xxx.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=2M08:44
ikoniawhoaaa08:44
ikoniaDoxin_: don't do that08:44
crizisawaad, instructions how to make bootable usb stick are right on the download page... http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop08:44
TJ-Natherul: So far WoW on WINE isn't very useful08:44
ikoniamirage91: why are you telling him to write an iso to a second disk ?08:44
NatherulTJ-: really? used to work fine a while back on wrath.... .P08:44
somsipgerbilcabbagehai: I don't really understand your question. Would 'man ls' help you?08:45
TJ-Natherul: Well my partner tried it and it was too slow. FPS was terrible08:45
NatherulTJ: thats a shame.... was hopeing to play on my laptop that has ubuntu while at work.... .P cant even install atm due to agent something crashing08:45
CalinouTJ-: what graphics card/drivers do you have?08:46
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TJ-Natherul: Some people do have success, but the key is the OpenGL acceleration support08:46
TJ-Calinou: Why?08:46
Calinouor are you talking to Natherul?08:46
TJ-Calinou: I was talking to Natherul, yes08:47
NatherulTJ-: well i know i have an nvidia on this here laptop.... not sure wich model though.... using the drivers thats recommended by ubuntu atm08:47
TJ-Natherul: same for my partner, with a desktop with a decent Nvidia card.08:47
TJ-Natherul: give it a try - your may be lucky :)08:48
TJ-Natherul: install the latest wine 1.4 (Precise) and see how you go08:48
thechefHow can I access commercial PPAs outside Ubuntu Software Center?08:48
TJ-thechef: use "sudo apt-add-repository. .." at the command line, usually (see "man apt-add-repository")08:49
TJ-thechef: correction, my typo! "add-apt-repository"08:50
thechefTJ-: ah, it's already added, but now I wish to download it outside Software Center.08:50
NatherulTJ-: ok, does not playonlinux use that wine? as it crash on downloading with agent something in the start of install----08:50
TJ-thechef: download a package from the repo? Just do the usual "sudo apt-get install <package>"08:50
chamunksis there a way to install vlc in headless mode on 12.0408:51
TJ-Natherul: I've not looked at playonlinux but I believe so. Best to try installing at a terminal and capture the log of the error. That makes it easier to figure out08:51
TJ-chamunks: "vlc-nox" is the package, I believe08:51
NatherulTJ-: sure, cant say that im experianced with lunux however... what version of wine is in hte ubuntu software center?08:52
thechefTJ-: ..my questions are a bit unclear today. How can I access the repository without using the package management systems at all?08:52
chamunksTJ-, makes sense.08:52
wdd_NIHAO08:52
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TJ-thechef: I'm not understanding the question! Repo's *are* accessed using the package management system!08:52
chamunksNow heres hoping that vlc can stream /dev/video0 to something more readable by zoneminder (i've managed to get my ip cams running smoothly.)08:53
TJ-chamunks: congratulations!08:53
chamunksTJ-, thanks its only lost me 6 hours of sleep08:53
TJ-chamunks: I know the feeling!08:53
thechefTJ-: yes, but they speak http so I could use the Browser as a low-level access tool for browing repos and I would like to do that, but that doesn't seem to work.08:53
wdd_you guys are nerds!08:53
chamunksi gotta catch this stupid kid so we can kick his butt out.08:54
Calinouwdd_: no u08:54
chamunksI know hes not smart enough to stop stealing so its only a matter of time before he robs me too.08:54
MonkeyDustthechef  there's this https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/08:54
thechefwdd_: geeks!08:54
TJ-thechef: That's correct. I understand now. You simply browse to the server listed in the sources.list file, usually adding "/ubuntu/" to the URL to get to the base of the repo08:54
wdd_geeks nerds same difference08:54
wdd_any j2ee devs in here08:54
MonkeyDustto geek or not to geek08:55
TJ-thechef: For example, for the Ubuntu archives its http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/08:55
TJ-wdd_: yes08:55
nifferlsHey guys08:55
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FloodBot1nifferls: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:55
MonkeyDustthechef  there's also this https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/08:56
MonkeyDusthttp://packages.ubuntu.com08:56
wdd_yes?08:56
TJ-thechef: packages are in the pool/ sub-directory tree; package lists are in the dists/ tree08:56
railsraideranyone had luck automating the aptitude safe-upgrade to keep the current grub?08:57
NatherulTJ-: getting a lot of fixmeś and err, but they are all a repeat of eachother.... the eror is: err:wininet:open_http_connection create_netconn failed: 1003608:58
thechefTJ-:  for example in case of https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/rochard/ubuntu it requests username and password, but I don't know what to provide08:58
TJ-Natherul: failing to make a network connection (that other stuff is standard - telling us what is only stubbed not implemented in WINE)08:58
MonkeyDust!ppa > thechef08:58
ubottuthechef, please see my private message08:58
TJ-thechef: Your system will have been provided with the login credentials when you bought the software08:59
NatherulTJ-: yeah i figured as much, but any idea on how to fix it at all? ^^08:59
thechefTJ-: ah it's working I accidentally picked the wrong credentials (for another package)09:00
Slingapart from /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, where else could eth(0|1) be bound to a MAC? the physical first interface keeps being assigned eth1 (mac ending in 26) while the second hardware interface (mac ending in 27) gets eth009:00
Slingvery annoying when you have IPMI that has a PHY bond to the first interface, and you need eth1 up to use it09:00
TJ-thechef: I was working on a big recently, in apt, that caused failure to access private PPAs because the 'password' was being truncated. Let me find that, it might refresh me on how to manually get access to a PPA from a browser, since I had to do that in working on that bug09:00
thechefI want to use wget instead of Software Cener because my internet connection is currently lousy and Software Center doesn't seem to provide resume functionality09:00
TJ-thechef: Oh, good! saves me some searching :)09:00
TJ-thechef: I know what you mean09:01
NatherulTJ-: i figured as much.... but any chance you know how to fix those errors?09:02
TJ-Natherul: I think I recall it is caused by the installer trying to connect to a SSL site and for some reason it failing. I can't remember the specifics. Have you looked in the winehq app database - there's usually instructions there for workarounds in the reviews against each program09:04
Mrokiihello. I'm currently cleaning my HD and found a folder named "trash" in the folders ".local/share" in my home-folder. That trash-folder is 4.7 GB big even tough my "regular" trash is empty. Does somebody know if I can empty that folder? I mean, if it's safe to do so?09:04
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NatherulTJ-: I did look, but I cant remember if I did not understand it or if it simply failed what stood there.... might as well be a combination of both... :P gonna have a look again09:05
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mulkHi.  I'm trying to understand Ubuntu's multitouch stack, but I'm having trouble getting a good overview of the current state of affairs.  Is “GEIS” a good keyword to start with?  (Actually, I'm trying to figure out how multitouch devices are discovered and enumerated, but I'm trying to take a step at a time. :))09:06
akis i installed an add-on on my thunderbird but due to a conflict with another add-on i remove it. i am running xubutnu 12.04 and as far as i can see in /home/user/thunderbird there is no trace of this add-on after i remove it. is there any possibility of any left-over files somewhere else and how can i be sure that removing this add-on everything related to it is removed?09:06
witakrHello again folks.09:06
NatherulTJ-: right, there was no workaround there, it just stated platinum rating with fresh install of ubuntu, wine and wow....09:07
TJ-Natherul: In winecfg you can choose to use a native version of wininet.dll - maybe that would help?09:07
witakrI think I have found a new problem specific to ubuntu. It seems my attempts to chmod a directory or a file are failing. I issue the command in terminal and when I check with ls -la I fins the changes I requested to the permissions did not take place.09:08
witakrDoes anyone have any idea why this might be?09:08
ikoniawitakr: what file system is on the disk you are using09:09
NatherulTJ-: where do i find that setting in winecfg? .... feeling like such  a nab atm09:09
TJ-witakr: Show us the commands and before/after results09:09
chamunksTJ-, you have any experience with streaming via vlc?09:09
witakrOne moment please.09:09
chamunksI snipped this cvlc "v4l://" --v4l-vdev="/dev/video0" --v4l-adev="/dev/null" --sout "#transcode{vcodec=mp4v,vb=256}:standard{access=http,mux=asf,dst=:1234}" -I dummy from09:10
TJ-chamunks: not alot. Tried it years ago :)09:10
chamunkshere https://blog.misc.ephaone.org/archives/vlc_webcam.html09:10
chamunksTJ-,  thats just about all that I have.09:10
chamunksbut if i can figure out how to stream these cams it adds another three cameras to my arsinal bringing it up to 6 cameras versus 309:10
TJ-chamunks: Sounds to me like a shotgun would be easier :p09:11
witakrTJ-, Here is a pastebin link to my attepts in terminal: http://pastebin.com/Ck64TE6H09:11
dellHow can i find my winxp loader09:12
chamunksTJ-, if it was like the middle east we would just take the kids hands off and be done with this.09:12
deffragHello! I'm trying to connect using vnc from laptop to desktop. Both the systems are running Ubuntu 12.04 desktop. Running vncserver itself on desktop is giving error - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216360/ . How can I fix this? What am I missing? I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC09:12
afidegnumT34Z1qou4b09:12
chamunkslol09:12
TJ-witakr: First. As it's in /media/ I'm assuming that it's an external device mounted there. So, it might be mounted read-only, or it might be a file system that doesn't support attributes09:12
TJ-chamunks: Well I'm a farmboy... we take the direct route, no messing :p09:13
dellI use a USB disk to install my ubuntu in windows xp09:13
afidegnumHello, pls I am trying to write a shell script which will allow me to tar $file.gz     and remove the .gz file from the folder. how can I formulate the script?09:13
NatherulTJ-: where in winecfg an i find the setting for that wininet.dll?09:13
chamunksTJ-, sounds like it makes life much easier.09:13
TJ-Natherul: You're trying to make my brain ache :p It's one of the tabs that allows you to choose DLLs :p09:14
witakrTJ-, The disk is a secondary HD installed internally. It is not, however, used for any portion or purpose for the OS.09:14
dellbut when i have installed my ubuntu, i cannot enter my windows,09:14
dellhow can i ?09:14
NatherulTJ-: not my intention to make your brain hurt.... im just a nab :P and i am sincerly grateful for the help your giving me :D09:14
TJ-witakr: OK... what file-system is on that disk? You can check its mount settings with "mount | grep media!09:14
TJ-witakr:   oops.... "mount | grep media"09:15
TJ-Natherul: Ok, it's the "Libraries' tab09:15
NatherulTJ-: i reckon I just add the wininet.dll then since its not in the list?09:15
TJ-Natherul: e.g. on mine I see I've got ctl3d32 and wininet both listed, and set to "native, builtin)09:15
nydelis there a command like apropos that returns only installed softwares?09:16
witakrTJ-, Indeed: /dev/sdb1 on /media/witTV type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)09:16
chamunksok nuts to this its bed time09:16
chamunksgnight09:16
nydel(for command line)09:16
TJ-Natherul: I can't remember if "native, builtin" means the WINE libraries, or ones from a Windows installation! You'd best do some research on that issue09:16
chamunksTJ-,  thanks for the attention to this.09:16
chamunksafk09:16
TJ-chamunks: sleep weel09:16
NatherulTJ-: ok, im gonna test now with wininet added as native.... see if i get another result09:17
TJ-witakr: as it's mounted using fuser (fuseblk) I'm going to guess it's an NTFS file-system. Try this "sudo blkid /deb/sdb1"09:17
witakrTJ-, It may be worth noting I have had no trouble accessing this drive in multiple OS installations including my current installation of Xubuntu 12.04.09:17
TJ-witakr: Did you change attributes with those, too?09:17
witakrTJ-, No I did not have a need at the time. I currently use one OS which is Xubuntu 12.04 however previously I have had Windows 7, Ubuntu12.04, OpenSUSE and LinuxMint installed and experienced no trouble accessing. But to be clear I did not try to change any permissions while using those installations either.09:19
witakrTJ-,  I ran "sudo blkid /deb/sdb1" as you requested and it gave me no return.09:21
TJ-witakr: I'm not 100% certain on this, but I'm pretty sure it's NTFS where you can't set the unix-style permissions; NTFS uses ACLs09:21
witakrTJ-, That is to say I don't know if it worked properly or not because it did not specify.09:21
ikoniaTJ-: correct09:21
TJ-witakr: 'deb' or 'dev' ?09:22
ikoniaTJ-: it's mounted userspace so only the mounted owner will get acess09:22
witakrTJ-, "deb" as you instructed above. Should I try "dev" instead?09:22
TJ-ikonia: so that'd explain witakr's issue then? he can't change the attributes using " sudo chmod" ?09:22
ikoniaTJ-: correct09:22
TJ-witakr: Did I mistype? Sorry! it should be /dev/09:22
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amgarchingHi! What is the output of "fc-match" on your recent ubuntu?09:23
witakrTJ-, That is wuite alright. Thank you for your help. I will try "dev" now. One moment.09:23
TJ-witakr: As ikonia has confirmed - it's not possible to chmod an NTFS file-system mounted using fuser.09:23
witakrTJ-,  Then it seems I may need to clear my HD entirely and reformat to ext?09:23
witakrOr fat32?09:24
TJ-Depends if you want it accessible to Windows or not.09:24
ikoniawitakr: fat32 doesn't support permissions, ext3/4 won't be stable or have permissions support in windows09:24
witakrTJ-,  It appears your suspicions are confirmed: /dev/sdb1: LABEL="witTV" UUID="8850F72050F71422" TYPE="ntfs"09:24
witakrikonia, That it alright because I do not have a Windows partition to boot. I only have Xubuntu.09:25
TJ-witakr: Instead of trying to change the attributes, you could set-up an entry in fstab that mounts it with the group ownership set as you want it for the entire file-system09:25
ikoniawitakr: then using ext4 wouldbe a wise move09:26
NatherulTJ-: getting the same errors no matter what i set the wininet.dll to.... seems that it wont work for me09:26
TJ-Natherul: that's a pain. You could try putting that error into Google and seeing if it leads to fixes/worarounds09:27
jeroen_Hello, can someone help me with bug filling this bug I have? My Quadro 2000M is acting glitchy after installing the nvidia-current 304.43 driver on Ubuntu 12.10. Version 295 has worked perfectly on 12.04.09:27
witakrTJ-, Though my gut tells me that may work, I am ignorant to the process. I am more than willing to try it if you might be able to assist me to that end? If you don't mind.09:27
NatherulTJ-: I appriciate the help non-the-less mate :P thanks for wasting your time on a nab like me :D09:28
TJ-witakr: I'd have to try it here, I'm not sure myself. All in all, from what you have said, I'd think converting the file-system to ext4 would be a better more useful approach09:28
witakrikonia, Honestly, i thought I had formatted the drive to ext4 but appearantly during my bout of 'Musical OSes' I forgot to do so. I may end up doing just that.09:28
TJ-Natherul: It isn't wasted - we're all learning here09:28
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Imhotep_hello09:29
witakrTJ-, Then i think I will do that. Thank you for your help. The process of moving my media from the drive will take a while so it will be a few minutes before I can begin that process.09:30
TJ-witakr: I know what its like - had to move 106GB earlier, between partitions on the same drive... took hours09:30
witakrikonia, I think that reformatting to ext4 is the best route and likely the cause to ALL of the problem which I have had tonight. Thank you.09:30
ikoniawitakr: no problem09:30
witakrTJ-, Fortunatly for me I ahve only just begun the process of converting my DVD collection so I have but only seven movie files to move and some music. Should only take 15 or 20 minutes at most.09:32
d1rkp1ttHi there, I have created a share in Ubuntu, just wondering how I connect to it from windows? I have tried \\servername\sharename  but I cant seem to authenticate09:32
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deffragHello! I'm trying to connect using vnc from laptop to desktop. Both the systems are running Ubuntu 12.04 desktop. Running vncserver itself on desktop is giving error - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216360/ . How can I fix this? What am I missing? I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC09:38
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gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: have you setup ssh?09:41
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: I'm trying vnc on the local network at the moment. I can ssh between desktop and laptop09:42
gerbilcabbagehaiso they connect ok using other methods first?09:42
witakrikonia && TJ-, It seems after formatting to ext4 the owner was set to root thus preventing me from making ANY changes. What did I do wrong? I simply used the standard settings in Gparted to format the drive.09:42
ikoniawitakr: after formatting it's always set to root, you now need to chown it09:43
NeuhristideHi !09:43
witakrikonia, Then I will chown the hell out of it. One moment.09:43
NeuhristideI have a problem : I want to install Lexmark x203n (All in one printer). Only printer work, but xsane and simple scan don't detect scanner. But sane-find-scanner detect scanner09:44
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: what step have you got up to in the VNC server install?09:44
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: I didn't follow your question. What run okay using which method? SSH? Within the local network, I'm able to ssh to desktop(192.168.10.101) from laptop (192.168.10.107) here.09:44
jongleurHi. Is there anything known why dropbox is not working in precise? I tried to install it from the website and using several tutorials I found, but it's not starting. The dropbox icon is shown, but trying to start dropbox it says I have to restart nautilus - and that seems not to help09:45
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: what system is your pastebin message coming from? laptop or desktop?09:47
witakrIt will be a minute as I learn how to chown. As you may have already gathered, my knowledge of Linux is spotty at best. I am relatively new to this OS and I learn new things as needed. I have found a really helpful document which explains permissions in linux as well as chmod and chown. For those interested I can give a link if desired. I have some reading to do now.09:48
ikoniawitakr: sudo chown -R user:group /your/mount/point09:48
blackshirtwitakr you can share here09:48
witakrikonia, Thanks for the shortcut. I will try that.09:50
witakrblackshirt, This is the link. It is on a wiki for PlexMediaServer. http://wiki.plexapp.com/index.php/Plex_Media_Server-Linux_Permissions_Guide09:50
theGrgHello, I am unable to update "resolvconf" due to a "Hash Sum mismatch".09:51
blackshirtthats great09:51
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: This should make it clear - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216304/ . If your client allows scrollback, same details and question was given probably an hour ago09:51
blackshirtThegrg, look a error/corrupted09:51
theGrgblackshirt is this a problem many are having? I'm using the main server.09:52
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: this paste is different to last :)09:52
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: As you can see, after ssh to desktop from laptop, when I run the vnc server on desktop, gives error09:52
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: It describes what all I've tried09:52
ramprasadgkmy wifi is not detecting any n/w even though quiet a few around, ::: all drivers installed .. rfkill list wlan says they are not hard/soft blocked09:52
deffraginstead of error paste for one command09:52
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag:  thnks09:53
ramprasadgkhow do i connect to my wifi n/w09:53
blackshirtthegrg, i don't know exactly ...09:53
mechteamrealhey guys09:53
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag:  are you trying to run the client or server with that command? from what i see you are trying to run the client. is your server setup correctly first?09:54
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: As far as I understand, The system I'm connecting from, laptop is client to desktop, is server. As you can see, for running VNC server itself on the desktop it gave error09:56
theGrgI am unable to update the package "resolvconf". Can someone assist me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216446/09:57
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: do you want server to have a password?09:57
ramprasadgkmy wifi is not detecting any n/w even though quiet a few around, ::: all drivers installed .. rfkill list wlan says they are not hard/soft blocked09:57
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: Not for testing at the moment. I just would like to see how it works for now before configuring it for security09:58
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: do you have all necessary libraries installed for VNC server?09:58
mechteamrealhow to mask my IP here ....09:59
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: I've installed x11vnc, openssh-server, openssh-client on both laptop and desktop09:59
llutzmechteamreal: ask in #freenode for a cloak09:59
ramprasadgkmy wifi is not detecting any n/w even though quiet a few around, ::: all drivers installed .. rfkill list wlan says they are not hard/soft blocked09:59
mechteamreal^^09:59
m3powcan anyone help me update unity to 5.1609:59
ramprasadgkmy wifi is not detecting any n/w even though quiet a few around, ::: all drivers installed .. rfkill list wlan says they are not hard/soft blocked10:00
witakrikonia, Off topic: I just heard your name "ikonia" said on Star Trek TNG. I thought that was interesting. lol10:00
m3powor should i wait for it to appear in update manager?10:00
mikk0im trying to get my machine to boot a degraded raid1 software raid partition, and i set the kernel parameters in grub to "bootdegraded=true" and ran update-grub, and set the parameter BOOT_DEGRADED=TRUE in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/mdadm and ran update-initramfs -u, and it still wont boot10:01
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: possible alternative solution : do you want to try http://synergy-foss.org/download/?list, or do you need to access your desktop from over internet at a later date/place10:01
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: What do you think is missing?10:01
ramprasadgkmy wifi is not detecting any n/w even though quiet a few around, ::: all drivers installed .. rfkill list wlan says they are not hard/soft blocked10:01
NeuhristideHi again !10:02
RinsoleHello.10:03
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: im familiar with sshing, but im new to vnc. im learning what you need, so i can help. Perhaps not effectively but im trying lol10:03
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: I'm currently trying VNC on my local netowrk, it I'm able to do that properly, I'l extend to access from internet. As mentioned,  I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC but it didn't work for me.10:03
deffragAh-ok!10:03
deffrags/it/if*10:03
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: think of what im doing as thinking along with you10:03
ramprasadgkmy wifi is not detecting any n/w even though quiet a few around, ::: all drivers installed .. rfkill list wlan says they are not hard/soft blocked10:03
llutz!patience | ramprasadgk10:04
ubotturamprasadgk: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/10:04
NeuhristideI try to use Lexmark x203n scanner, but I can't because sane-find-scanner find scanner but xsane don't find scanner10:04
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: can you connect to each machine both ways, using some other protocol? obvious question is obvious : does ssh tell you that it is not a connection problem, but rather a configuration problem?10:05
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216345/ -- netstat -nta | grep LIST if it may help10:06
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: I'm able to ssh from desktop to laptop and vice-versa if that is what you are asking10:06
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: right. good good.10:07
theGrgI am unable to update the package "resolvconf" due to a Hash Mismatch. Can someone assist me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216446/10:08
llutztheGrg: have you run "apt-get update"?10:09
theGrgllutz yes10:09
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: what port will you be using? is your router configured correctly to allow vnc communications?10:09
tsimpsondeffrag: you do not run x11vnc as root10:11
llutztheGrg: "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install resolvconf"  any success?10:11
Doxin_ikonia: it seems that changing the partitions in any way whatsoever breaks windows.10:12
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: Since, I'm attempting VNC locally, port forwarding 22 will not come in between. If I was doing it from outside the network, port forwarding would have helped. As the wiki says, port forward only 22 which is already done as I sometimes ssh to system from outside10:12
deffragtsimpson: It was giving permission issues as you can see in the paste, which I why I tried that10:12
jribtheGrg: run apt-get update again, if it persists, wait more and run apt-get update again or just use a different mirror.  I think this happens when the mirror is updating and you update as the mirror is in the middle of updating but the md5sums haven't been updated yet10:12
theGrgjrib its been several days though.10:12
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: true10:12
jribtheGrg: so use a different mirror10:12
Doxin_ikonia: I don't see why it's being this difficult, on an identical machine everything went fine10:13
tsimpsondeffrag: in the paste I'm looking at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216360/ you use sudo10:13
deffragtsimpson: Even running it without sudo, vnc server is not initialized. I'm stuck at getting VNC server started at desktop10:13
theGrgjrib I'm using what software-sources calls "Main Server". I'll try US if nothig works, I guess.10:13
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag:  Q, why is it trying to open x display when it is cli command type server?10:14
deffragtsimpson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216304/10:14
jribtheGrg: you should take the opportunity to setup a local mirror then :)10:14
jribtheGrg: "setup" as in "find"10:14
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: I'm equally new to it, and learning10:14
tsimpsongerbilcabbagehai: because it forwards a running display, so it needs an X server10:15
theGrgjrib you might as well mean "set up" :) The Lebanese server seems to be out-of-date. I wonder how much work it would be to maintain it...10:15
Z0oMhi10:15
Doxin_ikonia: halp!10:15
Doxin_ikonia: how do I get them to dualboot?10:15
theGrgllutz that didn't fix things. I'm going to try changing the server now.10:16
deffragtsimpson: And it is running as mentioned in the paste above. ps aux part in the bottom of the paste10:16
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: so, is your x display working correctly?10:16
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: lol sorry for the nooby 20 questions10:17
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jribtheGrg: well you could try lb.archive.ubuntu.com.  Are you saying that that is out of date?10:17
theGrgjrib from experience, yes it is out-of-date10:17
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: Yes, as far as I understand it is. ps aux says so. And I'm sure if I connect display to the desktop now it will show Ubuntu login screen. Currently, desktop I'm connecting to from laptop is like a headless system with no monitor, keyboard, mouse attached10:18
tsimpsondeffrag: is there currently a running X session on the desktop system?10:18
Danse_Macabrehello my my current setup consists of the following, i have two internet connections . my pc has 3 network cards. based on the time of day i should be able to choose which internet connection i use.  only between 2 am to 8 am i should use internet connection #2 rest of the time it should be internet connection #1. also i need all my other computers to connect to the internet through this PC as well( use the 3rd network adapter)10:18
ikoniaDoxin_: what ?10:18
jribtheGrg: hmm, it's probably worthwhile to file a bug; maybe the admin isn't aware10:18
ikoniaDoxin_: what's the issue ?10:18
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: hence why you are sudoing before login?10:19
Doxin_ikonia: I'm having trouble getting windows to play nice alongside linux on my 2tb disk10:19
ikoniaDoxin_: as I said earlier, you need to explain the problem rather than saying "it won't work"10:19
theGrgjrib I believe it is simply unmaintained as the Ubuntu Lebanon team is no longer active.10:19
deffragtsimpson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216474/ -- is that the right way to confirm if X is running?10:19
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Doxin_ikonia: the problem is that if linux touches the partition table windows stops booting10:20
jribtheGrg: in either case, lb.archive.ubuntu.com shouldn't be pointing to non-functional servers10:20
ikoniaDoxin_: again - explain the problem10:20
gerbilcabbagehaideffrag: what version ubuntu and desktop have you?10:20
ikoniaDoxin_: not what you think is happeneing, what's actually happening10:20
deffraggerbilcabbagehai: Both laptop and desktop are running Ubuntu 12.04 desktop as mentioned in the original question!10:21
gerbilcabbagehaignome?10:21
tsimpsondeffrag: you need to be running an X session, as a the user you're trying to use VNC as, for it to work10:21
theGrgjrib where do you recommend I file the bug?10:21
deffragtsimpson: So, in my current session with the desktop in ssh. I should run startx?10:21
Doxin_ikonia: I want to dualboot. I install windows. linux doesn't see the windows partition. manually partitioning taking care to not touch the invisible windows partitions makes windows not boot anymore.10:21
jribtheGrg: I'm not sure where the appropriate place is.  I assume somewhere no launchpad.  Maybe #ubuntu-bugs can be more specific10:21
ikoniaDoxin_: please explain "not boot any more" errors/warnings10:21
Doxin_ikonia: grub doesn't list windows no more, and the windows install disk can't find the windows partition anymore, just listing it as free space.10:22
ikoniaDoxin_: ok, one moment please.10:23
codemaniac "Как пропатчить KDE2 под FreeBSD"10:23
tsimpsondeffrag: you should try using /var/lib/lightdm/:0 rather than /var/lib/lightdm/:0.Xauth10:24
deffragtsimpson: x11vnc -auth /var/lib/lightdm/:0 -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0 ?10:26
jribtheGrg: did changing the mirror resolve your hash issue?10:26
ikoniaDoxin_: it seems 12.04 handles gpt differently then previous releases. This ask ubuntu thread is quite useful10:26
ikoniaDoxin_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/132843/why-do-i-need-to-create-a-bios-grub-partition-when-i-install-12-0410:26
tsimpsondeffrag: with sudo, yes10:26
theGrgjrib still apt-get updating, my current connection is pretty slow.10:26
jribtheGrg: ok10:27
deffragtsimpson: Now, why with sudo? You said it shouldn't run with sudo10:27
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deffragtsimpson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216480/10:28
tsimpsondeffrag: because you're cheating and trying to get the display of the display manager, rather than a user. there is security you must bypass (by using sudo) to do that10:28
Doxin_ikonia: it hasn't got uefi, so it's impossible to dualboot like this?10:28
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deffragtsimpson: cheating? Well, currently as the process suggests it running lightdm login screen as root. so, we are trying to get access to that right?10:29
ikoniaDoxin_: the post explains it10:29
Doxin_ikonia: I read it. It says windows wont install to a gpt partition without uefi.10:30
deffragtsimpson: Command issued was <sudo x11vnc -auth /var/lib/lightdm/:0 -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0>  display :0 is missing in the paste10:30
tsimpsondeffrag: the display manager is not really running as root, it's running as lightdm10:31
deffragtsimpson: Ok, I ran the command as you said - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216485/10:32
WormDrinkhi10:32
WormDrinkhow do I get gdm to not start up10:32
WormDrinkI tried update-rc.d - but it doesnt make any difference10:32
WormDrinkrunning 10.0410:32
ikoniaDoxin_: no, not quite10:32
jrib!text | WormDrink10:32
ubottuWormDrink: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode10:32
WormDrinkis that the only way ?10:33
jribWormDrink: no...10:33
dr_willisits an easy  :-)10:33
dr_willisway10:33
WormDrinkso - how bout a more elegant way - i mean with gentoo I would just diable it with rc-update - but yeah - sadly ubuntu has like 10 ways to do one thing - and none of them work10:33
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ILikeCatsgood day everyone10:34
dr_willislinux has many ways.. nit ubuntu specific10:34
jribWormDrink: I don't remember how gdm is setup in 10.04.  Pastebin your /etc/init/gdm.conf .  Though imo, using "text" as above is the most elegant way :)10:34
OdraHey guys10:35
dr_willisfind the gdm.conf and rename it to gmd.dontrun  is another wat10:35
tsimpsondeffrag: try by using "–auth /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority" instead10:35
witakrikonia && TJ-, Well formatting the drive to ext4 and a little chmod work and now all my problems are resolved. Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.10:35
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OdraI am an student programmer that programs gadgets. What kind of gadget should I program?10:35
WormDrinkhttp://pastebin.com/aJb77kfJ10:35
jribOdra: try #ubuntu-offtopic for programming project suggestions10:35
WormDrinkshould I just comment out start on ?10:36
jribWormDrink: that's one way, or add "and never" as a condition. In later upstart versions, you could use a .override file, but not in 10.0410:36
jribWormDrink: renaming the file works too as dr_willis suggested but then you can't use upstart to start the service manually after boot10:37
deffragtsimpson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216493/10:37
ILikeCatsI got a problem, maybe some of you can help me: I just installed Ubuntu today and wanted it to dual-boot aside Windows 7. The installation went fine and after the installation Windows 7 even showed up at the grub menu. Ubuntu boots fine, but Windows 7 only boots until the logo shows up, then my pc restarts. I tried to fix this issue already with the Windows 7 install cd but the problem persists. I tried Ubuntu 12.04 and 10.10 (beca10:38
ILikeCatsfine a few months ago) but this time the problem occurs with both versions. Im happy for any kind of help and Im sorry for this wall of text.10:38
SilfenXHello! Does anyone know if UFW will let me do this just as easily using a GUI from desktop environment? http://i45.tinypic.com/nnqq2f.png10:40
ncfi1013__hello? i have a problem with the videodownloadhelper plugin for firefox...it doesnt convert properly...i already have mencoder/ffmpeg installed...still doesnt work...are they conflicting?...so what do i do...just uninstall ffmpeg?10:40
marcncfi1013_: What version of Ubuntu are you using ?10:41
theGrgjrib llutz changing to a French server fixed my issue. Thanks.10:41
dr_willisncfi1013__: i dident think those plugins used ffmpeg or mencoder locally. there are differebt video downloader ectensions you could try10:42
deffragtsimpson: ?10:43
dr_willisor download the flv. then convert by hand ncfi1013__10:44
ILikeCatsNobody who can help? :(10:45
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dr_willisILikeCats:  if windows is booting.. then its more of a #windows wuestion i woukd think10:46
ILikeCatsdr_willis: Windows isn?t booting and the problem only occured after I installed Ubuntu so I guess Ubuntu somehow messed with the windows files.10:47
ncfi1013__marc...12.0410:47
kgsYou probably didn't do the partitioning right ILikeCats10:47
dr_willisyou said it boots to the  windows logo. so it is booting.. then crashing10:48
ncfi1013__dr_willis...what are the names of the other extensions?10:48
tsimpsondeffrag: ok, once more with "-auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0"10:48
WormDrinkHi, Also want to disable console-kit-daemon from starting - any ideas how ?10:48
dr_willisncfi1013__: no idea. im on my phone so cant see ehat ive got installed10:49
ILikeCatskgs I used the automatic partitioning10:49
kgsILikeCats: if you don't mind starting over (seeing as you already re-installed windows), then why not create a new partition table for your master disk & re-install both the OS ?10:49
ILikeCatsdr_willis yes thats right but it did boot completely before I installed Ubuntu10:49
kgsdo the partitioning manually thing time10:50
ILikeCatskgs Thats a good idea but I don?t really know how to partition manually.10:50
ILikeCatsI tried it some time ago but it gave me an error10:51
ILikeCatslet me think what it said10:51
ehlodexhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot10:51
ncfi1013__i also have a question about partitioning10:51
ehlodexi've successfully used those directions recently10:51
ncfi1013__the swap...put it in the beginning middle or end?10:52
deffragtsimpson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216498/ something different this time. And, it didn't return to prompt. Should I now run a vnc client on laptop?10:52
ncfi1013__cuz my computer freezes at least twice a day10:52
DarkStar1why does the command "sudo shutdown -r now" not work in 12.0410:52
ncfi1013__my swap is in the middle10:53
ILikeCatsehlodex thank you for pointing me in the right direction10:53
DarkStar1It just prints the message but nothing happens10:53
tsimpsondeffrag: lines 78 and 79 suggest that you can10:53
deffragtsimpson: As far as I understand, the VNC server is now running localhost:010:53
ncfi1013__should i have put it at the beginning?10:53
deffragYes, I10:53
snomiI was in the middle of installing pen drive ubuntu, when it errored out. Now windows asks for a format, and gparted cant rix the USB. I think I bricked it.10:53
ehlodexncfi1013__: i usually put it first, but i'm not sure that it matters that much10:53
dr_willisi put swap at the end. it dosent matter  much these days10:54
DarkStar1anyone?10:55
jilt007DarkStar1: ??10:55
DarkStar1why does the command "sudo shutdown -r now" not work in 12.04? It just prints the message but nothing happens10:55
dr_willistypical win7 partition layout + ubuntu, 4 primary partitions =  (windows boot)(windows) (ubuntu /) (swap)10:55
deffragtsimpson: Thanks a lot! It finally worked. I used a VNC client and inputted 127.0.0.1 for access10:56
DarkStar1but the system "doesn't go down for a reboot now" as the message would have me believe10:56
tsimpsondeffrag: glad it's working10:56
deffragtsimpson: I'm trying to understand the problem from the commands you asked to issue. What was I missing?10:56
ehlodexDarkStar1: wouldn't you use "sudo reboot now"?10:56
grntDarkStar1: shutdown has been broken like that for a long time already10:57
jilt007DarkStar1:  use -h :P10:57
tsimpsondeffrag: just searching for the correct location of where lightdm stores it's X11 authentication file10:57
DarkStar1used to work for me in 11.1010:57
DarkStar1jilt007:  doesn't work either and I only need r as it is a remote :P10:57
grntI remember I had strange problems with shutdowns since, like, 10.1010:57
jilt007DarkStar1: use init 6 :P   or init 0 depends on what u want :)10:58
DarkStar1should've just stuck with debian I guess :P10:58
deffragtsimpson: Ah, thanks. And, that command is running didn't return to prompt. So, do I need to open another ssh session and that can be terminated?10:58
prashant_123456 Bug #976032: Place plugin problem with panel in fullscreen and gnome classic.  can anyone help me out10:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 976032 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Place plugin problem with panel in fullscreen and gnome classic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97603210:59
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grntDarkStar1: Arch. It's worth it.10:59
tsimpsondeffrag: you can either kill it from another ssh session, or you can probably just press Ctrl-C from the same session and it should stop10:59
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deffragtsimpson: But I would like it to be running in the background11:00
dr_willisdeffrag:  you may want to look into useing screen or tmux ;)11:01
MonkeyDustand byobu, a fancy layer over screen11:01
dr_willisbyobu can use tmux also these days11:02
deffragtsimpson: And, it VNC stopped by itself - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216508/11:02
deffragdr_willis: screen -d -x something?11:02
deffragdr_willis: screen -d -m <command> ?11:03
dr_willisi just start byobu whenver i ssh in.11:03
deffragbyobu and tmux, new to me11:03
m3powhello!11:04
dr_willisrun 'byobu' and be amazinafied..11:04
dr_willis;)11:04
m3powis it ok to do an unity update ?11:04
tsimpsondeffrag: you can just place an '&' after the command to have it run in the background11:04
dr_willisbut if using & and you logout/disconnect it may still close11:05
deffragtsimpson: Yes, I was going to try that . But by doing so, I'm may not be able to see errors for like i stopped suddenly now11:05
dr_willistmux,screen,byobu  wont. ;)11:05
ncfi1013__what does pressing tab do? after doing this: sudo apt-get install libavfilter-extra11:05
SilfenX"Only the firm's Windows Server 2012 Datacenter edition can be deployed on more than two virtual instances, and at $4,809 plus process and Windows CALs also needing to be purchased, this version could be a marketing gift for Red Hat, Canonical and everyone else in the Openstack consortium.11:05
SilfenXThe Inquirer (http://s.tt/1h2TU)11:05
SilfenX"11:05
ncfi1013__nevermind11:06
tsimpsondeffrag: it will still print to the screen, it will just be mixed into the normal shell output. you can also have it write to a log file, by appending "&> some_log.txt" (before the final '&')11:06
deffragah, yes11:06
ncfi1013__thanks...i appreciate all your help...11:08
ILikeCatsIf you use manual partitioning, how big should the swap be if I got 4GB RAM?11:09
m3pow8gb11:09
m3powmin11:09
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deffragtsimpson: I didn't understand one thing. SSH started from laptop to desktop. Desktop started VNC server on localhost. And, now back to laptop I started vnc client to access it using 127.0.0.1 not 192.168.10.10111:09
deffraglocal host on desktop not laptop side11:09
dr_willisdepends on your needs.. ram size + a little bit for use with hibernation.11:10
ILikeCatsok thanks m3pow11:10
m3powalso listen to dr_willis11:10
ILikeCatsdr_Willis if I dont use hibernation Im fine with 4gb or..?11:10
dr_willisor less.11:11
ILikeCatsok11:11
ILikeCatsthank you11:11
dr_willistotally depends on whzt you do with the system11:11
tsimpsondeffrag: you used "-L 5900:localhost:5900" in your ssh command, that forwards connections from your local port 5900 to the remote server port 590011:12
zenxHi, when cloning the ubuntu kernel git  if i use git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/linux.git can I checkout a branch that is inside the ubuntu/ubuntu-quantal branch?11:12
ILikeCatsI will use it for browsing, office, music,...11:12
ILikeCatsjust the normal stuff nothing fancy11:13
kyanHi. How do I revert all the package changes from the past day?11:13
ikoniazenx: yyou can check out any branch you want11:13
kyanOr alternatively downgrade all packages to the latest version available in a repository?11:13
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deffragtsimpson: So, that allows port 5900 from laptop to desktop for communicating for VNC11:13
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tsimpsondeffrag: yes, it just forwarded along everything you send to your laptop localhost:5900 (over SSH) to the desktops localhost:590011:14
zenxikonia: but if i do "git branch -a " the I can't see the quantal branch, only master.11:16
deffragtsimpson: Alright, thanks that I got this basic setup in local network working with your help. Lastly, could you tell me in short how can I extend it for access form outside local network, internet?11:16
xsldoes bash have any /etc/default/bash that can force all comands to be logged ?11:16
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yarekthey, I got a quick question. In syslog i'm seeing these kind of messages: "ata5: hard resetting link", They are all prefixed with ata5, How can I tell *which* physical drive they are related to ?11:16
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francispereirakdump-tools: loaded kdump kernel - but when echo c > /proc/sysrq-trigger kdump kernel is not loaded. The box just remains in hung state. Please help11:17
codemaniacxsl: do you want to see where the command histry i slogged ?11:17
codemaniac~/.bash_history11:17
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xsli know its logged there codemaniac , the problem is ... i want all commands to be logged to rsyslog11:18
xsl.bash_history can be adultered11:18
xsleven if i do the chattr +a .bash_history11:18
zenxyarekt: http://serverfault.com/questions/244944/linux-ata-errors-translating-to-a-device-name11:18
xslor a user can even do HISTFILESIZE=011:19
xsland that way i dont get what they do11:19
yarektxsl, Awesome ! +1 internets to you sir11:19
xslyarekt,  sorry,  i don't understand your input11:20
francispereiraxsl, grsec patches for the linux kernel allow logging of all user executed commands I think11:21
tsimpsondeffrag: what you've done should already, as long as you have the DNS name or IP address of the desktop11:21
xsli have read on wiki.bash-hackers.org that if enabled at compile time ... it can log to syslog facility11:21
deffragtsimpson:  whoops! So, only SSH is the security?11:22
codemaniacxsl: there was a ncative ubix utility called acct , that helped admisnistrators to watch her users are doing11:22
ifyhi everyone11:22
tsimpsondeffrag: yes11:22
xslfrancispereira, i know that one, but that one is too much11:22
ifyhelo11:22
deffragtsimpson: And, the user outside will be running those command, and on vnc client, localhost input11:22
deffrag?11:22
xslcodemaniac, yes i know acct but again ... it can be override by user enviroment11:22
codemaniac!info acct11:22
ubottuacct (source: acct): The GNU Accounting utilities for process and login accounting. In component main, is optional. Version 6.5.5-1ubuntu1 (precise), package size 92 kB, installed size 384 kB11:22
ifycan someone direct me to  a developer?11:23
tsimpsondeffrag: there should be no difference in the commands between over LAN and over internet11:23
ikoniaify: why11:23
ifylooking for support11:23
xsli also read about placing on bash.bashrc the "read only" of those attributes.. like HISTFILESIZE... my guess is that there is no 1 variable solution... i need to work around several stuff11:24
xslty for the input guys11:24
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ikoniaify: ask here - this is a support channel11:24
ifykk11:24
ifythanks11:24
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francispereirakdump-tools: loaded kdump kernel - but when echo c > /proc/sysrq-trigger kdump kernel is not loaded. The box just remains in hung state. Please help11:24
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ifywant a software on asset monitoring and tracking11:25
ikoniaify: the guys in #ubuntuforums just told you - you don't need a developer. Just ask your question11:25
francispereiraanyone has kdump working on Ubuntu 12.04 ?11:25
deffragtsimpson: Since SSH local port forwarding is used? So, the only difference would be ssh user@<externalIP/domain>11:25
tsimpsondeffrag: yes, though you may need to make sure external connection to port 5900 are forwarded to the desktop system and not blocked by your firewall/router11:27
codemaniacupport channel11:27
codemaniac                 │15:24:31              ify | kk11:27
codemaniac                 │15:24:33              ify | thanks11:27
codemaniacupport channel11:27
FloodBot1codemaniac: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:27
codemaniac                 │15:24:31              ify | kk11:27
codemaniac                 │15:24:33              ify | thanks11:27
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codemaniacsorry folks it was a accident11:27
TsavoSSH into a fresh install of Xubuntu (12.04.1) suddenly having the Connection closed. -v flag reveals: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1213903/  usual fixes involving /etc/hosts aren't working11:30
francispereiraanyone has kdump working on Ubuntu 12.04 ? I have setup kdump-tools but no dump kernel get loaded on manually triggering a crash11:30
deffragtsimpson: Well, the wiki I used asks only to have port 22 forwarded not 5900- " configure your router to send connection attempts on port 22 (but not port 5900) to your PC". I already have port 22 forwarded. So ..11:31
tsimpsondeffrag: well hopefully you don't need to forward 5900 then, best way to tell is to give it a try11:32
twitchie!botsnack11:34
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!11:34
deffragtsimpson: Yes. But I'm curious if I'll have to forward port 5900 on router, will it allow only one connection? "By convention, port numbers start at 5,900 and go up, so a computer that shared three different desktops would normally listen on ports 5,900, 5,901 and 5,902"11:34
* twitchie pat ubottu 11:35
tsimpsondeffrag: I'm not sure exactly how it's implemented in ssh, but I'm guessing you don't need to forward any more ports (from what I'm reading)11:35
deffragtsimpson: Yes, thanks a lot for your time and input. :)11:35
tsimpsonno problem11:35
SilfenXwhich version of the firewall is included in WHS2011? the win7 one or the one from w2k8?11:39
BenE904hello all newbie, I'm having some trouble using the terminal and was wondering if someone could help me.11:39
auronandaceSilfenX: wrong channel11:39
jribBenE904: just ask your question11:40
SilfenXauronandace: cripes! sry :(11:40
BenE904Well I'm trying to teach myself PERL in order to get on a masters course I want to do and i'm following the teach yourself PERL in 21 days.  However, when I try to run my first simple program I get the message: Can't open perl script "first.pl": No such file or directory11:41
francispereiraanyone has kdump working on Ubuntu 12.04 ? I have setup kdump-tools but no dump kernel get loaded on manually triggering a crash11:41
BenE904I've made and saved it and i think its something to do with my PATH thing11:41
jribBenE904: that means in the directory that you are in, the file "first.pl" does not exist11:41
BenE904how do I change the directory?  I have both windows and ubuntu installed on this desktop and think thats the problem11:42
jrib!cli | BenE90411:42
ubottuBenE904: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro11:42
jribBenE904: cd some-directory11:42
auronandaceBenE904: that has nothing to do with it11:42
twitchie!mv | BenE90411:42
_bthello, can anyone give me information on "SRU" updates to ubuntu?11:45
jrib!sru | _bt11:45
ubottu_bt: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates11:45
BenE904thanks ubottu, that looks like it might help11:46
_btthanks jrib11:47
mhrhi11:49
blackshirthi mhr11:49
blackshirtmhr, where do you come from?11:49
mhrwhich file does dpkg --status reads to show the package status?11:49
mhrblackfrank, I am from New Delhi11:50
TsavoKoh steal your face?11:51
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blackshirtMhr, look at /var/lib/dpkg/status11:51
blackshirtmhr, you mention a wrong nick11:52
mhrblackshirt, oh i knew what you meant?11:53
blackshirtgood11:53
mhrblackshirt, sorry that was a statement11:54
blackshirtno problemo11:55
mhroh so dpkg --status reads from /var/lib/dpkg/status?11:56
mhrdo you know where it gets all these informations from?11:56
blackshirtmhr, can describe more details?11:57
nibbiermhr, strace -eopen -f COMMAND will tell you what gets if info from where11:58
blackshirtyes, i think that files used internally by dpkg11:58
mhrI am working on a package upgrade script but and want to update the version number11:58
tsimpsonmhr: or look at the FILES section of "man dpkg"11:58
jribmhr: umm... what exactly do you mean by "package upgrade script"?12:00
francispereiraanyone has kdump working on Ubuntu 12.04 ? I have setup kdump-tools but dump kernel does not get loaded on manually triggering a crash12:01
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mhri have a software installed installed in 10.04 LTS, created by someone else earlier, now I need to upgrade the software but the version number i get from dpkg --status is the old one12:03
mhri want to update the version number12:03
jribmhr: then you need to install a .deb package with the later version; you should not be editing files where dpkg stores information12:03
blackshirtthe version number was used by dpkg metadata ... And used on many place of dpkg internally,you should be carefull12:04
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mhrin the .deb package there must be some file which stores the version number of the package?12:06
jribmhr: yes, of course. How did you install the later version?12:06
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blackshirtmhr, yes... That stored on called metadata12:09
Seveasmhr, there is. a .deb file is an ar archive containing 3 files: data.tar.gz control.tar.gz and debian-binary. control.tar.gz contains metadata such as version info and postinstall scripts12:10
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mhrthe software was created by my senior who has left now, and the files i can see the relevant information that dpkg --status shows is inside the control file12:10
Seveasmhr, to get the data: ar x debfile.here control.tar.gz, and look in control.tar.gz12:11
mhrthank you all for the help, i will look up in those files12:12
michele_Ciao, sono nuovo, chi mi spiega come funziona questa chat?12:13
HaikuVbox!it | michele_12:13
ubottumichele_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)12:13
tinysmileyhi12:17
Rikim4ruI have what I think is a generic error when trying to compile (make command) software (Merlin for nagios),   could you please provide some insight for fixing this issue?12:17
blackshirttinysmiley: hi12:17
Rikim4ruthe error ----  lib/iocache.h : no such file or directory12:17
blackshirtRikim4ru: what the error ?12:17
Rikim4ruwhen I google for iocache.h , it prompts from diffenrent software also, so I guess this is somehow generic12:18
Rikim4ruI've installed all the required dependencies..12:18
blackshirtRikim4ru: i don't where iocache.c come from ..12:20
_raven_hi12:20
Rikim4ruOk :(12:20
_raven_how to do port-forwarding via ssh for ALL ports?12:20
blackshirt_raven_: hi12:21
Kartagishow do I tell a p1 patch from a p0 patch?12:21
bazhang File iocache.h found in libcherokee-base0-dev  Rikim4ru12:22
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Rikim4rubazhang! thanks you!12:23
swissmanhi12:23
jribKartagis: you can usually tell by just reading the beginning12:24
swissmanI cannot load https12:24
swissmanUbuntu Error Connection12:25
swissmanI do success redirect to Globes.co.il12:26
swissmanBut not to Google12:26
swissmanHey Cell12:26
SilfenXDoes anyone know if this is possible with UFW from desktop using some kind of GUI for UFW? http://i45.tinypic.com/nnqq2f.png12:26
Kartagisjrib: the first line says diff --git a/imagecache_canvasactions.module b/imagecache_canvasactions.module12:26
jribKartagis: so there you go12:26
Kartagisjrib: so, p1 or p0?12:27
jribKartagis: do you understand what p1 and p0 do?12:27
Kartagisnot really12:27
jribKartagis: man patch, scroll down to the description of -p, it's very readable12:27
gerbilcabbagehaiwhy would I be getting this message "command not found" on running sudo add-apt-repository?12:28
jribgerbilcabbagehai: because the command was not found?  You probably need to install python-software-properties12:29
HaikuVbox!ufw | SilfenX12:29
ubottuSilfenX: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.12:29
Kartagisjrib: so, this is p112:29
jribKartagis: yes, probably12:29
talsamongerbilcabbagehai,  the right command is  apt-add-repository12:30
foo357Hello, I've got a offline computer running 10.04. I manage package installations, updates and whatnot by using keryx. http://keryxproject.org/ ... however I need to add a PPA and get some packages from it, how should I do this?12:30
gerbilcabbagehaitalsamon: ah, thanks. The tutorial is wrong then. :)12:30
gerbilcabbagehaiI thought is strange that it swaps them around12:30
jribgerbilcabbagehai: both commands work (on the latest ubuntu anyway)12:31
gerbilcabbagehaiim typing something wrong12:31
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SilfenXHaikuVbox: but is it possbile to set exceptions per nw interface in some similar way to what is show in my screnshot?12:31
HaikuVboxSilfenX: no idea sorry12:32
gerbilcabbagehaiwhat does apt stand for?12:32
gerbilcabbagehaie.g. apt-get12:33
codemaniacgerbilcabbagehai: Advanced Package Tool12:33
codemaniacor packaging12:33
HaikuVbox!apt | gerbilcabbagehai12:33
ubottugerbilcabbagehai: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)12:33
|Anthony|how do i make it such that 2 users can access audio devices at the same time?12:33
|Anthony|it would be 2 different devices12:33
gerbilcabbagehai!ppa12:34
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge12:34
francispereiraanyone has kdump working on Ubuntu 12.04 ? I have setup kdump-tools but dump kernel does not get loaded on manually triggering a crash12:34
twitchie!botsnack12:35
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!12:35
Tsavoha12:37
aristidesfldoes anyone know if it is possible to do the equivalent to bash's source with fish?12:37
_raven_how to do port-forwarding via ssh for ALL ports?12:38
MonkeyDust!info fish12:39
ubottufish (source: fish): a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.23.1-2 (precise), package size 786 kB, installed size 3840 kB12:39
foo357Hello, I've got a offline computer running 10.04. I manage package installations, updates and whatnot by using keryx. http://keryxproject.org/ ... however I need to add a PPA and get some packages from it, how should I do this?12:40
|Anthony|foo357, this machine has not internet connection?12:41
gerbilcabbagehaiim having trouble installing handbrake. I followed the instructions on https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-releases but im doing something wrong. I end up with "command not found" when trying to get it via add-apt-repository, AND via apt-add-repository. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 server. any ideas?12:41
foo357|Anthony|: nope12:41
|Anthony|you'll have to use an aptoncd source12:41
foo357|Anthony|: I think Keryx does pretty much the same thing as aptoncd12:43
BluesKajHey all12:43
gerbilcabbagehainvm. thanks jrib. works now12:44
|Anthony|foo357, so what's the issue then? get your packages on a disc, add the disc as an apt source, profit. right?12:45
twitchie!add-apt-repository | gerbilcabbagehai12:45
foo357|Anthony|: I think it might be enough to add the PPA to the list of sources, they're listed like for example: "deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-updates main restricted" but how should I add an PPA?12:46
Rikim4rucould someone tell me if my usage of GIT is ok?12:47
Rikim4rugit clone git://git.op5.org/nagios/merlin.git12:47
Rikim4rudoes this command assure me a full (and latest) download?12:47
twitchiefoo357 that's an archive not a ppa .. if you want to add that archive add it to /etc/apt/sources.list12:47
foo357twitchie: how do I add an PP to sources.list?12:48
foo357PPA*12:48
twitchieyou cannot... a ppa is thought update-manager / software-center or add-apt-repository12:49
twitchiethrough*12:49
twitchie!ppa | foo35712:50
ubottufoo357: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge12:50
foo357twitchie: could a online computer download the packages I need from the PPA, not necessarily the identical OS as my offline computer?12:51
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BluesKajfoo357, you can add a ppa with this command , sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nameofppa-ppa/nameofpackage12:52
foo357BluesKaj: won't work if the pc is offline, which mine is12:52
OerHeksfoo357 i never tried to download from a ppa to add offline...12:52
BluesKajfoo357, ok then why are you guys even discussing ppa's . you need to be online to use them12:53
foo357BluesKaj: I need some software that's available in a PPA12:54
twitchiefoo357: yes you cna download the individual .deb files and dependencies if required and transfer them but that is not suggested as the system cannot upgrade to new packages as required.12:54
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BluesKajlooks like your stuck in a no win situation, foo35712:55
twitchiewell a win but lose in the long run situation12:56
francispereiraanyone has kdump working on Ubuntu 12.04 ? I have setup kdump-tools but dump kernel does not get loaded on manually triggering a crash12:56
twitchieif the individual packages install without long dependencies12:57
BluesKajput the pc online if possible . foo357 or copy the packages to another online pc and copy them to a usb stick for transfer to the offline pc ...12:57
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twitchiepersoanly if you are going to sandbox a machine just stay stock unless you need ubuntu-restricted-extras of course! :P12:58
akishi all. i have a usb lexmark printer (Z845) without any linux driver. Is there any possibility to make it work under my Xubuntu 12.04?13:00
twitchie!cups | akis13:01
ubottuakis: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows13:01
HaikuVboxakis: next time get a hp printer13:01
twitchiedon't***************13:01
twitchie:P13:01
BluesKajakis, very doubtful , unless your Lexmark is made for business , they have linux support13:01
akisi have a samsung and run perfect with any distribution (openSuse or Kubuntu/Xubuntu). This printer was a gift with a desktop PC and i am wondering if i could make it work with my  freshly installed 12.04.13:03
OerHeksHaikuVbox, my smasung comes without any notification what wants any confirmation, like HP does.13:03
OerHeksc/samsung13:03
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OerHeksakis samsung works OOTB13:04
Rikim4rucould someone point me out how to download a software with git?13:05
HaikuVbox!git | Rikim4ru13:06
ubottuRikim4ru: git is a distributed revision control/software code management project created by Linus Torvalds. For more information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)13:06
BluesKajakis, lexmark consumer grade printers have poor support in linux , altho there are some that have drivers available , but very few13:06
OerHeksthere is a nice wiki >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git13:06
akisalthough there is a compatibility for series Z600 and Z700 there is no one for Z800. I think i will send it for recycle!13:06
Rikim4ruthanks!13:06
nydelhow to register a web browser as an alternative for gnome-www-browser?13:07
BEChey; my 12.04's sound settings doesn't show an hdmi setting (laptop); in 10.04 it did. any idea why?13:08
Rikim4ruso,13:08
twitchienycsd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199549913:08
Rikim4ruis " git clone" the correct download command?13:08
twitchie!git | Rikim4ru13:09
ubottuRikim4ru: git is a distributed revision control/software code management project created by Linus Torvalds. For more information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)13:09
twitchie!botsnack13:09
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!13:09
Rikim4ruyes or no could help13:09
auronandaceRikim4ru: perhaps you could read the documentation13:10
Rikim4ruI've just read the ubuntu one, and it's more related to create a git store than download the latest rev of a software13:10
SilfenXwhy would you need this channel if everyone spent days reading manpages?13:11
|Anthony|how do i make it such that 2 users can access audio devices at the same time?13:12
|Anthony|it would be 2 different devices13:12
twitchieRikim4ru: in cli "git -h"13:12
BluesKajSilfenX, most manpages are barely decipherable for most users anyway13:13
SilfenXBluesKaj: thats what I m saying - spending days reading ending up feeling it was for nothing13:13
twitchiethey make ppl discombobulated13:13
Rikim4rugit clone git://git.op5.org/nagios/merlin.git13:13
Rikim4ruthen this is the correct command?13:14
Rikim4ruIt downloaded a folder with the software inside13:14
SilfenXbeen there done that - maybe it has to do with my iq tho, but someone with improved iq maybe could take pitty on me answering a question or two13:14
Rikim4ruis there anything else I have to do to make sure everything is ok?13:14
twitchieRikim4ru: I dont know ... what does git -h and man git say?13:14
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Rikim4ruUnkown option -h  hehehe13:15
twitchiehurm wonder if exec -o still works13:15
BluesKajSilfenX, doubt that IQ has much to do with it , knowledge fro experience is usually the case13:15
twitchieRikim4ru: then --help13:16
ansiii have 2 headphone jacks on my laptop its a HP DV6 1152TX , can anyone tell me if i can route different audio on both of them.. as i want to use a DJ software like MIX13:16
auronandaceRikim4ru: perhaps you can ask in #git13:16
ansiican anyone please help me13:16
ansiii have 2 headphone jacks on my laptop its a HP DV6 1152TX , can anyone tell me if i can route different audio on both of them.. as i want to use a DJ software like MIX13:16
OerHeksansii, 1 jack = headphone, 1  jack is mic  ?13:17
SilfenXansii: then your software shoud display 2 individual audiooutput devices, one for each output, if that would be possible13:17
|Anthony|ansii, click on the sound settings panel icon13:18
ansiiOerHeks no.. tis laptop as 1 jack = head phone, 2 jack  = another head phone and 3 jack  =  mic13:18
|Anthony|ansii, select the playback tab13:18
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OerHeksansii 2nd jack might be line out then13:18
|Anthony|ansii, find the program(s) that are playing audio13:18
ansiiOerHeks this is my laptop and i can hear audio from both jacks13:19
|Anthony|ansii, select the output source from the drop down beside the application and change it13:19
ansiiAnthony there are 2 entries one is Digital output (S/PDIF) and other is Speakers (Duilt in audio)13:19
mbeierlansii, first question: are you sure the audio card in the computer supports two different audio outputs and it's not just duplicating the audio at the hardware level13:20
SilfenXansii: you re out of luck then13:20
comp365-ColinIs there a way of calling external text filters in nano, similar to ! in vim?13:20
agc93I know this is a long shot, but has anyone here used a Belkin Wireless N ExpressCard with Ubuntu?13:20
ansiimbeier1 , good question.. but i dont know.. all i know is that this laptop comes with a dual headphone slots13:20
ansiiSilfenX how do i ensure that the right drivers have been installed for my sound card?13:21
SilfenXansii: it s like a seat on an airplane, co-hearing13:21
|Anthony|ansii, open a terminal13:21
|Anthony|ansii, type aplay -l13:21
BluesKajagc93, usb wifi ?13:21
ansiiaplay -l13:21
|Anthony|ansii, that will list the audio devices available13:21
ansiiits shows 3 devices13:22
|Anthony|don't use /exec aplay -l in chat here lol13:22
SilfenXansii: you know you have the right driver for your audiohardware if it plays audio, mroe or less13:22
|Anthony|ansii, can you discern which devices are which?13:22
ansii<|Anthony|> should i past it here?13:23
|Anthony|you can also use aplay -L that will show the device names in a more human readable way13:23
BluesKaj!paste13:23
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:23
SilfenXif your particular DJ software supports multiple outputs, then maybe you shoudl have a lookaround in the programs audiohardware preferences and see if you can select spdif as one output and the analog out jack as a 2nd output - experimental but maybe it could work13:24
ansiihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1216697/13:24
|Anthony|calm down now. the kernel has to recognize the hw before a dj app will be able to utilize it13:25
ansii|Anthony|  BluesKaj here it is13:25
ansiihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1216697/13:25
* |Anthony| is reading13:25
kbk1UFW question. If I 'default deny outgoing' on my machine, I can no longer browse the internet. Any possible explanations?13:25
SilfenXansii: then you d need a way of getting that spdif signal into your amp which would need to go through a hardware mixer forst13:25
kbk1FWIW, someone played with the iptables at some point. Here is that output: http://pastebin.com/pQT02eqF13:26
BluesKajansii, you have no sound at all ?13:26
ansiibut is there someway to know that my 2 headphone audio jack are independant or not?13:26
SilfenXif you hear the same audio in them they are13:27
|Anthony|ansii, i'm thinking that they are mirrored outputs13:27
|Anthony|but you can test this13:27
Sidewinder1I haven't been following, sorry; someone has provided the 'sound factoid', have they not?13:27
ansiiBluesKaj sometimes the sound dosent play.. like in the hardware test under settings.. when i ran the audio test no sound came out13:27
|Anthony|with aplay -D plughw:n,n /usr/share/alsa/sounds/Front_Center.wav13:28
BECmy 12.04's sound settings doesn't show an hdmi setting (laptop); in 10.04 it did. any idea why?13:28
ansii|Anthony| shit.. how did u get to  know that!!!13:28
BECanyone ?13:28
BluesKajansii, install pavucontrol , for setting your audio inputs and outputs13:28
twitchieanyone use me-tv with hdhomerun in aust?13:28
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SilfenXansii: do you have an external audio mixer? If you dont, you d need a way to play back/mix both hardware outputs simultanesly in some other fashion before hitting the amp13:29
ansiiSilfenX have u worked on mixxx?13:29
SilfenXansii: why dont yo ujust use the DJ software to mix your tracks in software and playback the already mixed output?13:29
|Anthony|ansii, look at lines 52 and 55 of your pastebin13:29
SilfenXansii: no, I havent used mixxx, sry13:30
twitchieany1 using cinnamon on 12.04?13:30
twitchie!ot > twitchie13:30
ubottutwitchie, please see my private message13:30
auronandacetwitchie: its not supported here13:30
|Anthony|ansii, those are the 2 intel HDA devices. one is the onboard audio (builtin speakers) which iirc is shared by the headphone output jack. the other i think is the spdif13:30
SilfenXI have used Logic Audio tho on an ASIO compatible soundcard with 8 chan breakoutbox13:30
BECwhat about a flickering video?13:30
ansii|Anthony| ure a genius man!!..13:31
codepython777where can i add this line --  deb http://packages.prosody.im/debian stable main ?13:31
|Anthony|ansii, thanks for the vote of confidence, but not really... i'm just familiar with it cause i'm having my own issues atm lol13:32
lil_Workercan i compile a 64bit binary on 32bit unbuntu install?13:32
lil_Workerwell, simply adding the -m64 flag13:32
ansii|Anthony| let me tell u that i am aspiring to be a DJ and i want to start off with UBUNTU mixxx and other open source apps.. but the requirement is a 2 different output from laptop13:32
mcatchcan someone explain to me the reasoning behind having to type "./myProrgam" to execute it from the terminal instead of just "myProrgam"? Is it because linux distributions try to obtain package information for all non-directory based terminal lines?13:33
|Anthony|ansii, you're going to have to use some pulseaudio magic. and let me tell you... getting it to work as expected is a royal pita13:33
|Anthony|ansii, do you have an outboard amp that you could hook up to the spdif?13:33
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agc93mcatch: If it was in your PATH you wouldnt need the slash13:34
ansiithere is no SPDIF but there is only a HDMI output on this laptop13:34
agc93Ubuntu searches your PATH for non-directory commands13:34
ansii|Anthony|  there is no SPDIF but there is only a HDMI output on this laptop13:34
Muellimcatch: It's because of the PATH. An environment variable listing directories that your shell searches executables in. You could set PATH to "." for the current directory but that's highly frowned upon.13:34
BluesKajansii, type alsamixer in the terminal, take a screenshot and paste it to www.imagebin.org13:34
foo357Hello, I need a package that doesn't seem to be available for the ubuntu version I'm using (10.04 LTS)13:36
daviddoriaI was getting "expired credentials" errors from Pidgin this morning. When I logged into the google page that pidgin popped up and did my 2-step verification, it said it was going to access Docs, Contacts, etc. Does it really need access to all of these things? I just want to make sure this is a legit operation and not some weird fishing thing13:36
BECfoo357, what package?13:36
zykotick9!ppa | foo35713:37
ubottufoo357: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge13:37
d00durk00lMy nic has been acting funny... now I have ifupdown listed as a additional wired nic ... Why?13:37
foo357BEC: libgeos++-dev13:37
BECnot sure what that is, but search for it: package name Ubuntu 12.0413:37
foo357zykotick9: my computer doesn't have a internet connection, so I cannot use PPA:s evidently13:37
BECthe name might have changed!13:38
zykotick9mcatch: ./ means "at this location".  and it's a security issue to have your current directory in $PATH13:38
ansiiBluesKaj http://imagebin.org/22910913:39
ansiiBluesKaj http://imagebin.org/22910913:39
|Anthony|ansii, well, the hdmi is really for video13:39
zykotick9mcatch: and, it's not "non-directory" it looks for - it looks for executable.13:40
ansiiyes sir there is a ATI radeon card also on this laptop13:40
|Anthony|ansii, you can get audio over it, but it's not its primary purpose13:40
d00durk00lifupdown cannot be edited in the connections menu and that and auto eth0 are listed... Does that sound a little odd to anyone?13:40
d00durk00lcould that be malware?13:40
ansii|Anthony| really sir?? how can i make it possible??13:40
twitchie|Anthony|: that is not true .. HDMI is built for Video Audio and Ethernet13:40
d00durk00lhdmi can use ethernet as well?13:41
twitchieyes13:41
|Anthony|twitchie, idk how to respond to that13:41
ansiiBluesKaj did u see it?????13:41
twitchiehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI13:42
polysicshello13:42
polysicsbeen trying to get a shell script to run on login in a terminal for a while now13:42
d00durk00lcan someone help me please13:42
polysicsI tried with gnome-terminal -e and -x but it does not run13:42
polysicsscript does a cd followed by executinga ruby file13:42
|Anthony|ansii, do you have an hdmi input on your outboard amp?13:43
BluesKajansii, yes , to see the "kernel driver in use" , lspci -v | grep -i snd  in the terminal , just paste the first line here13:44
zykotick9polysics: are you giving "gnome-terminal -e /full/path/to/script" and is the script executable?  is the cd "required"?13:44
polysicsthe cd is required because of some relative paths I can't change atm13:44
polysicsand yes, I would say the path is correct13:44
polysicswhat's weird is taht running gnome-terminal -e /full/path in another terminal works13:45
moustafaMorning CSS13:45
moustafaJust a heads up: The network is down in the Montreal office13:45
moustafaI'm using my phone's 3G connection to send this13:45
Picimoustafa: I think you are in the wrong channel.13:45
moustafaDammn it13:46
BECtwitchie, can u help? my 12.04's sound settings doesn't show an hdmi setting (laptop); in 10.04 it did. any idea why?13:46
moustafaPici, I hate it when Xchat switches me around :P13:46
|Anthony|BEC, go to terminal and type aply -l to see that the kernel recognizes your hardware13:46
|Anthony|frikin a... is it audio day in #ubuntu13:47
mithodinhey guys. I just installed ubuntu on a pc and i need a driver for the wireless card13:47
mithodini have no network connection on the machine itself, obviously13:47
mithodinwhat is the way to go to get the right driver?13:48
mithodinit's a marvell 88w8335 card13:48
BEC|Anthony|, u mean aplay? need 2 install "alsa-utils"?13:48
|Anthony|BEC, oh yes13:49
|Anthony|typo13:49
ansiiBluesKaj http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216732/13:49
ansiiBluesKaj  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216732/13:49
BEC|Anthony|, $ aplay -l13:49
BEC**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****13:49
BECcard 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]13:49
BEC  Subdevices: 0/113:49
BEC  Subdevice #0: subdevice #013:49
BECcard 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]13:49
FloodBot1BEC: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:49
BEC|Anthony|, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216734/13:50
|Anthony|BEC, ok so the kern sees the hdmi device. but you're saying it doesn't show up in sound settings?13:50
ansiiBluesKaj  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216732/13:51
BluesKajansii, ok , that's the correct driver , i forgot to mention when you opened alsamixer to use the F5 key which shows all the controls  , you may have some of them either muted or turned down13:51
BEC|Anthony|, no; in All Settings > Sound > Output there's no HDMI; only Headphones & Speakers13:51
BECnote that in 10.04 I had an HDMI entry!13:51
polysicsI tried everything: launchers, shell, anything13:52
polysicsthe terminal window shows up for a split second then goes away13:52
|Anthony|BEC, type aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav it should come through your internal speakers. do that again with plughw:1,3 and it *should* go through the hdmi13:53
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ansiiBluesKaj  http://imagebin.org/229110 here thats F513:55
BluesKajansii, my question is , what do want to do with the the sound outputs , do you want to use the headphones , the anaolg or spdif/digital out or... ?13:55
julius_hi13:55
ansiiBluesKaj , pardon me for not explaining u correctly..13:56
polysicsin fact, it seems that no autorun at all works here13:56
polysicsnot even just running, say, gnome-terminal on login13:56
polysicsit does not open!13:56
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zykotick9polysics: try "xterm -hold -e foo"13:56
ansiiBluesKaj  i am an aspiring dj but dont have the money and experience to buy hardware, so i am starting with applications like mixxx and other software that requre 2 audio outputs13:56
ansiiBluesKaj hence i am trying to explore the possibilities to extract two different and independant audio streams outta my laptop.. i believe UBUNTU was created by god hence it could be possible here, Windows sucks13:58
ansiiBluesKaj??13:58
polysicszykotick9: this got me slightly further13:58
polysicsit is apparently not finding bundler13:59
ansiihttp://imagebin.org/22911013:59
ansiiBluesKaj , http://imagebin.org/22911013:59
polysicshow do I run a command as if I logged in, bash profile and all?13:59
polysicsplease13:59
BluesKajansii, ok , what kinds of inputs does the amplifier have that you going to use , most have digital , either optical or cox and analog and hdmi as well13:59
|Anthony|how do i make it such that 2 users can access audio devices at the same time? it would be 2 different audio devices13:59
|Anthony|see it's audio support day in #ubuntu14:00
|Anthony|lol14:00
ansiithe mixer of the sound man is what i get.. and he gives me just one stereo to rc cable14:00
julius_anyone using the 4G XSStick P14 (webstick) in ubuntu 12.04?   found some older docs, but they do not work in 12.0414:00
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ansiiBluesKaj the mixer of the sound man is what i get.. and he gives me just one stereo to rc cable14:01
Sailor_Moonplease, tell me: is a commandline text editor, which can change font/background color, as Microsoft Edit.exe for Dos, but free?14:01
ikoniayou can do that with almost any14:01
ikoniavim, emacs, nano, etc14:01
Sailor_Moonikonia, thank you14:02
Sailor_Moonhow many megabites can open these editors?14:02
ikoniadepends on your ram14:02
ikoniaas much as your ram can deal with14:02
Sailor_Moonikonia, 16 mb ram, freedos14:03
BluesKajansii, you don't want 2 outputs , but you do want to switch between 2 sources on the laptop for the music , correct?14:03
ikoniaSailor_Moon: then 16MB14:03
ikoniaSailor_Moon: freedos has nothing to do with this14:03
ikoniaSailor_Moon: you're running ubuntu14:03
Sailor_Moonikonia, thank you very much!14:03
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Sailor_Moonikonia, a half of freedos program ported from ubuntu/linux)14:04
ikoniaSailor_Moon: freedos has nothing to do with your ubuntu text editors14:04
Guest53273hi everyone, i have a doubt. what command i write on launcher, to start a sh file?14:04
Sailor_Moonso i think there is these editors ported to freedos; i shell see ibiblio.org14:05
ansiiBluesKaj output 1 will be the main out put out put 2 so i can hear or premix tracks to set to the right cue point14:05
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XMENDEShi everyone, i have a doubt. what command i write on launcher, to start a sh file?14:05
ikoniaSailor_Moon: freedos has nothing to do with your ubuntu text editors14:05
XMENDESi have one line on terminal " /sudo something..." how transform to a launcher file on my desktop?14:06
XMENDESthis file is on the root directory14:06
kdsmainok so...before I realized that there was an xml file which is responsible for showing the available wallpapers in the "Wallpapers" tab in Appearance, I deleted all of the standard pictures. Is my computer going to catch fire?14:06
Sailor_Moonikonia, bye! lucky!14:06
XMENDESanyone14:06
XMENDES?14:06
ansiiBluesKaj !!??14:06
BluesKajansii , ok then that's a software setting you have to figure out in mixx or whatever the  app is you're using ...I'm not familiar with them14:07
vect0ryXMENDES: for starters you could try putting the line in a textfile and change the permissions to executable, maybe add #!/bin/bash at the top or ...14:07
ansiiok.. are there any good external usb soundcards that would work on ubuntu?14:07
m3powif i have an *.rb file with methods. how can i require that file into IRB so i can use those methods14:08
vect0ryXMENDES: but dont call it sudo14:08
m3powquit14:08
BEC|Anthony|, I did that & it works; when I connected the cable, the HDMI option appeared in the settings; when removed it was gone!14:08
BEC|Anthony|, I guess there's no problem then?!14:09
XMENDESi have to put this file on /bin/bash  ??14:09
XMENDESthis file is on my home directory14:09
stef-cine e owner aici14:09
tanveerubuntuguys need help14:09
tanveerubuntucan someone tell me14:09
BEC|Anthony|, speaking of which I believe I have a video bug or smthg; when playing vid's the image flickers every 3~4 seconds!14:09
XMENDESgonna try here.. one minute14:09
m3powhttp://pastebin.com/sFKBLEp414:09
tanveerubuntuhere is the directory cd /minecraft/world/mcmmo_data    i am trying to delete mcmmo_data14:09
tanveerubuntucan someone help me asap please14:09
BluesKajansii, yes , m-audio has some very good ones , I use a m-audio pci card and it has great sound and it's very floexible , but they are a bit pricey ...ebay has them for decent prices if you don't mind "used"14:10
m3powdid it start the countdown sequence to blow up ,,, what's the rush ?14:10
BECtanveerubuntu, what exactly do u need?14:10
XMENDESwhen i wrot on terminal  sh file.xx .. its starts14:10
Marzatatanveerubuntu: pls, write to ubuntu-asap channel14:10
XMENDESbut on launcher no.14:10
|Anthony|BEC, there is a known issue with HDMI video. when sound cuts out the video source does as well14:11
tanveerubuntuBEC:  hi im trying to delete a folder using terminal14:11
|Anthony|but only for a seconf14:11
tanveerubuntuBEC:  because my vps ends like now i have to delete some folders and back everything up14:11
tanveerubuntuBEC: cd /minecraft/world/mcmmo_data   <------  that folder14:11
Rikim4ruhow can I add the LDFLAGS+=  to a "make" command?14:12
polysicszykotick9: owe you a couple beers14:12
XMENDESvectory ... it works .. i only remove "sudo" from file and it starts.. tks a lot man14:13
XMENDESregards guys.14:13
XMENDESbye14:13
phantomcircuitwhat's a good way to take a video of the desktop? (like a screenshot but video)14:15
obirecordmydesktop14:16
|Anthony|recordmydesktop just works, but is heavier than using ffmpeg14:16
crizisrecordmydesktop, ye14:17
auronandace!info gtk-recordmydesktop | phantomcircuit14:17
ubottuphantomcircuit: gtk-recordmydesktop (source: gtk-recordmydesktop): Graphical frontend for recordMyDesktop screencast tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.8-4.1ubuntu1 (precise), package size 118 kB, installed size 795 kB14:17
BEC|Alexia_Death|, "when sound cuts out the video source does as well" could u explain more plz?14:18
BEC|Anthony|, "when sound cuts out the video source does as well" could u explain more plz?14:18
Rikim4ruhow can I add the LDFLAGS+=  to a "make" command?14:18
Dev-Brianhello14:19
|Anthony|it's a glitch. i don't know the details of causation, but if an audio signal gets interrupted the video will cut out for a second14:19
|Anthony|BEC ^14:19
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crizisRikim4ru, export LDFLAGS+=your flags14:20
Rikim4rucrizis, i should just exec this before the make command?14:20
crizisRikim4ru, yes. it's a shell variable14:20
Rikim4ruok14:20
peetaurwhen I run "aptitude install" it asks to install 552 packages, but "apt-get install" does not want to install anything. How can I clear this nonsense from aptitude?14:20
crizisRikim4ru, export LFLAGS=$LDFLAGS -yourflags should work too14:20
Rikim4ruwhat does a flag look like? (sorry for being noob)14:21
Rikim4rui'm looking to link it to /usr/lib/libdbi14:21
Rikim4ruis this my flag?14:21
BEC|Anthony|, ah; speaking of vid; do you know why installing mplayer requires the following nvidia packages: nvidia-vdpau-driver | nvidia-vdpau-driver-ia32 | vdpau-driver (I have an ATI card!)?14:22
Rikim4ruexport LFLAGS=$LDFLAGS -/usr/lib/libdbi     ?14:22
pankajhi there14:22
alvishi everybody14:22
alvisexit14:23
|Anthony|BEC, probably because the installer isn't smart enough to detect hardware and make deps based on that. pre-compiled packages need to be done such that it is broad enough to support *most* hardware14:23
BEC|Anthony|, so should I Y the installer? or keep them back?14:25
BECdoesn't cause any conflict??14:25
genii-aroundBEC: Another reason could be that your default settings for packages have "Install Suggested Packages" set to on, since libvdpau1 which is a required dependency has those nvidia vdpau packages as "Suggested"14:25
BECif installed?14:25
|Anthony|BEC, listen to genii-around14:26
BECgenii-around, I guess so; how do I turn it off?14:26
BECgenii-around, I sometimes use --no-install-recommends. What are these suggesed/recommended packages? I searched about them but couldn't find an answer! :S14:27
BECgenii-around, actually i did find stuff about it, but didn't quite understand them :S14:28
peetauraha figured it out.... apt-get remove aptitude ; apt-get purge aptitude ; apt-get install aptitude14:28
jribpeetaur: blasphemy14:28
peetaurhowso?14:28
genii-aroundBEC: You can make a file /etc/apt/apt.conf  and put in it: APT::Install-Suggests "0";14:28
mindstormlol14:28
jribpeetaur: bad joke.  I wonder how aptitude purge aptitude would behave14:28
peetaurit was a traitor; it had to go14:28
genii-aroundApologies on lag, work is taking up much of my time at the moment14:29
jribpeetaur: you know aptitude is broken on multi-arch?14:29
peetauryes I know... one of many reasons I hate aptitude14:29
peetaurI only like "aptitude search" better than "apt-cache search"14:29
BECgenii-around, is it a good behavior to do so (i.e; opt out suggestions permanently )?14:29
jribpeetaur: same, I wish that aptitude search would replace apt-cache's14:30
peetauralso there's "aptitude moo"14:30
BEC|Anthony|, btw, the flickering isn't HDMI related; it is my system!14:30
peetaurah but apt-get has a moo, just a different one.14:31
mindstormsuper-moo14:31
BEC|Anthony|, now I discovered the related cause u mentioned: modifying sound amplitute causes more flickering!14:31
genii-aroundBEC: If you only want to opt out on a one-time basis, you can issue the apt-get command with the option in the command line as well, like: sudo apt-get intstall -o APT::Install-Suggests=0 <packagename>14:32
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genii-aroundBEC: I find it easier just to set the Recommends and Suggests settings off in apt.conf so that unnecessary cruft doesn't get installed, especially on server systems where installing something like ffmpeg with those settings on will result in X being installed, etc14:33
BECgenii-around, same result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216810/14:36
lotuspsychje!info docky14:36
ubottudocky (source: docky): Elegant, powerful, clean dock. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.4-1 (precise), package size 830 kB, installed size 3329 kB14:36
thunderdoggerhello?14:36
BECgenii-around, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216811/14:36
lotuspsychje!ask | thunderdogger14:37
ubottuthunderdogger: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:37
thunderdoggerI was wondering if there was anyway to check for malware on ubuntu?14:37
varunhello, how do i install python-config14:37
varun?14:37
lotuspsychje!snort | thunderdogger14:37
mnicehello14:38
genii-aroundBEC: try instead -o APT::Install-Recommends=014:38
baizonthunderdogger: rkhunter, ClamAV14:38
lotuspsychje!info snort | thunderdogger14:38
ubottuthunderdogger: snort (source: snort): flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.2-3ubuntu1 (precise), package size 680 kB, installed size 1752 kB14:38
jribvarun: why? what is it?14:38
xionhow can i save the output of a terminal command to a file?14:39
varunjrib: i am installing a software through terminal and it checks for python-config14:39
peetaurxion: echo hello > somefile14:39
mnicewould anyone pastebin for me a analogical command in ubuntu as ``rpm -q pulseaudio --requires'' does in rpm systems ? i need to check PAs deps in buntu but i don't have any deb system right now14:39
|Anthony|xion, run you command like this: ps aux > somefile.txt14:39
mnicethanks14:39
genii-aroundBEC: Very odd though that with Suggests off it still wants those. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libvdpau1 does not show them as required.14:40
OerHeksmnice command not possible, join #fedora or any other rpm based distro14:40
mniceOerHeks: reread again and again until you understand please14:40
tsimpsonmnice: just use apt-cache, apt-cache show <package>14:41
mniceOerHeks: "would anyone pastebin for me a analogical command in ubuntu as ``rpm -q pulseaudio --requires'' does in rpm systems ? i need to check PAs deps in buntu but i don't have any deb system right now" is there something what you don't undertsand to ?14:41
xion<peetaur> <|Anthony|> :thanks for that14:41
mnicetsimpson: again .. i don't have any .deb system14:41
mnicesorry14:41
BECgenii-around, here are all 4 results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216823/14:42
tsimpsonmnice: you are on Ubuntu, you have apt-cache14:42
* |Anthony| nods to xion 14:42
mnicetsimpson: omg, i am not14:43
xion|Anthony|:hey how can i do that14:43
xioni want to nod you14:43
tsimpsonmnice: you said "in ubuntu", that command is in ubuntu14:43
shishireUbuntu 12.04, I'm having trouble getting a reverse dns record to be recognized as the box's domainname.  The rdns record resolves fine, but running hostname --fqdn returns just the host, not the fqdn, and running domainname returns "(none)"  I've tried adding a search line to /etc/resolve.conf, but that didn't seem to do anything.  Anyone know of a doc that describes how ubuntu searches for it's domainname?14:43
|Anthony|xion, you type /me nods14:43
mnicetsimpson: "would anyone pastebin for me a analogical command in ubuntu as ``rpm -q pulseaudio --requires'' does in rpm systems ? i need to check PAs deps in buntu but i don't have any deb system right now" is there something what you don't undertsand to ?14:43
jribvarun: what software?14:43
* xion nods14:43
varunxen14:43
peetaurmnice: I think somehow dpkg should do it ... but I don't know what option.14:43
genii-aroundBEC:  Yes, very weird.14:43
tsimpsonmnice: yes, you said "command in ubuntu"14:43
* xion nods |Anthony|14:44
jribvarun: why not use the packages in the repositories?14:44
jrib!xen | varun14:44
mnicepeetaur: thanks man :D .. give to me please if you can14:44
ubottuvarun: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen14:44
* xion laughs14:44
|Anthony|lol14:44
mnicetsimpson: i want output from that command14:44
tsimpsonmnice: are you not in Ubuntu?14:44
mniceNO I AM NOT14:45
tsimpsonmnice: so what OS are you on?14:45
thunderdoggerin rkhunter what do these mean? Checking for passwd file changes                         [ Warning ]14:45
thunderdogger    Checking for group file changes                          [ Warning ]14:45
BECgenii-around, should I report a bug of some sort on that?14:45
thunderdogger Checking for hidden files and directories                [ Warning ]14:46
thunderdogger this also14:46
mnicetsimpson: please stop asking me for pontless things14:46
varunubottu: thanks14:46
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)14:46
mnicetsimpson: i kindly requested clear foo14:46
tsimpsonmnice: if you're not on Ubuntu, why are you asking in an #ubuntu channel14:46
mnicewould anyone pastebin for me an output from analogical command in ubuntu as ``rpm -q pulseaudio --requires'' does in rpm systems ? i need to check PAs deps in buntu but i don't have any deb system right now14:47
mnicetsimpson: ^^ are you retarded or so ? sorry for these words .. i can't help out myself14:47
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jribmnice: use packages.ubuntu.com and please be polite, or that yeah :)14:47
genii-aroundBEC: If you use instead: sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends <name>     does it still want to install them? ( there are two ways to tell apt-get, one with setting an option with -o and in this case using the --no-install-recommends setting )14:48
varunjrib: i did install python and python2.7-dev from synaptic package manager..what do u suggest?14:48
jribvarun: I suggest just installing xen from the repositories14:48
genii-aroundBEC: If the --no-install-recommends also fails, then yes, I would consider it a bug14:48
rob_pmnice: perhaps something along the lines of, "sudo apt-get install -s <package_name> | egrep '^Inst|Conf'" might get you close... Basically does a simulate of the install process for the package, but doesn't really install anything whiile printing to the screen, everything that will be installed (deps, etc.)14:48
varunhow?14:48
killer_i got grub rescue...plz help14:48
jribrob_p: he wasn't on a debian-based system14:49
jribvarun: did you see the link ubottu gave?14:49
wilee-nilee!bootrepair | killer_14:49
varunjrib: how to install from repositories?14:49
jribvarun: did you see the link ubottu gave?14:49
wilee-nilee!grub | killer_14:49
ubottukiller_: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)14:49
jrib!xen | varun14:49
ubottuvarun: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen14:49
julius_anyone using the 4G XSStick P14 (webstick) in ubuntu 12.04?   found some older docs, but they do not work in 12.0414:50
lotuspsychjedocky looks nice at the bottom :p14:52
Winshing_Masteri have an issue with my wireless card. it says firmware missing. i have installed sta drivers and also added b43 in the /etc/modules file. still it doesnt work14:58
lotuspsychje!bcm | Winshing_Master14:59
ansiii14:59
ubottuWinshing_Master: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx14:59
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ansiiHDMI to RCA will ser any good??14:59
ansiiHDMI to RCA will ser any good?? for additional sound output ??15:00
BluesKajansii, no , hdmi is a digital signal15:00
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bazhangansii, sounds like a question for ##hardware15:00
BluesKajrca inputs are analog , ansii15:01
ansiibut i see that there is an HDMI to Rca convertor.. can i not use the audio output of it15:01
bazhangansii, also, perhaps you mean vga15:01
ansiihttp://www.ebay.in/itm/HDMI-3-RCA-Cable-/251152982201?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item3a79e260b915:01
ansiiBluesKaj RCA output15:01
julius_anyone using the 4G XSStick P14 (webstick) in ubuntu 12.04?   found some older docs, but they do not work in 12.0415:03
WormDrinksorry I keep asking these questions - which might seem stupid - but can anybody think of a good reason to have acpid running on a headless server ?15:03
bazhangjulius_, whats the chipset15:03
bazhangWormDrink, you may well ask in #ubuntu-server15:04
julius_julius_: chipset?15:04
bazhangjulius_, usb? lsusb to fin d out15:04
julius_bazhang: ive looked through some docs until now, but none used the word chipset in combination with a webstick. are we talking about the same thing?15:05
ansiibazhang can i not uset this HDMI output to stream a nother oudio15:05
bazhangjulius_, is it a wireless usb stick?15:06
julius_bazhang: no15:06
bazhangjulius_, what do you mean by 'webstick then15:06
julius_bazhang: its a umts modem15:06
BluesKajansii, be very careful , that doesn't look like it will work , you need a digital to analog converstor to make that work ...hdmi carry digital video audio signals , not analog15:06
wolterCan somebody help me fix this? "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".\nError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual" I use an nVidia card with proprietary drivers and everything was working fine until today15:07
julius_bazhang: on the other hand i didnt know about wireless usb sticks :)15:07
julius_bazhang: have to reboot and test some things, be back later15:07
Dominik-Hi Guys, i have truolbes with squid 3.1.19 come with 12.04... is there a way to install "old" Squid package from 10.04 ?15:09
fidelDominik-: you shouldnt try to use old packages - i guess troubleshooting and maybe reporting bugs should be the way to go15:10
Dominik-well i cant get ntlm pass through getting working... i spend alomost 5 hours... and now i need a working squid...15:10
fidelDominik-: there is btw: #squid - maybe helpful as well15:10
Dominik-i idle in there... ... no help (answer) until now15:11
fidelk15:11
Dominik-so anyway to "downgrade" squid package?15:11
blackshirtDominik-: that was not recommended to downgrade15:12
Dominik-well not recommended.. but i am "forced" to do it...15:13
fidelDominik-: personaly i have never tried to do so - cant help here. have you considered checking if you can get 3.2 instead - ie. using a ppa orcompiling from source to see if the problem still exists?15:13
hylianI am about to switch over to Ubuntu 64 bit, and I was wondering if any of my backed up .deb files will be of any use, they all have the i386 mark to them...?15:13
blackshirtjust try to download them and install dependencies15:14
OnkeltemHi15:14
Dominik-what is "ppa" ?15:14
blackshirtOnkeltem: hi15:14
fideland in addition: try to summarize the problem in detail so that other users maybe being knowledged more aroundsquid able to jump in and provide help?15:14
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lotuspsychjehylian:theres a trick with dpkg i think to backup your installed packages15:14
fidel!ppa > Dominik-15:14
ubottuDominik-, please see my private message15:14
fidelDominik-: just asking as i see that 12.04 offers squid 3.1 and the project page 3.215:15
hylianlotuspsychje: already did that. I made my own script to do it. I need to know if my backed up packages will work for 64 bit, they are 32 bit packages.15:15
OnkeltemCan I check all the files on computer to verify if they were modified? I mean executables for example.15:15
Dominik-fidel, the problem is stated several times around the internet... didnt find a solution15:15
MonkeyDusthylian  this line backups your installed packages   dpkg --get-selections > packages15:15
lotuspsychjehylian:no 64bit got its own packages,15:15
MonkeyDusthylian  this line to recover them    sudo dpkg --set-selections < packages;sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade -y15:16
hylianMonkeyDust: um, I already know how to do that, and my post had nothing to do with asking how to back up packages. my post had to do with whether or not 32 bit packages will work at all with 64 bit ubuntu.15:16
Winshing_Masterthere is entry in the /etc/modules file "LP"; any clue what that is?15:17
blackshirtWinshing_Master: line printer, maybe ...15:17
blackshirt:D15:17
OnkeltemHow to check signatures of all the files on a computer?15:18
_DanN_md5sum ?15:18
Winshing_Masterblackshirt: whats a line printer? never seen 115:18
billclol15:18
blackshirtOnkeltem: md5sum or sha256sum15:19
Onkeltemblackshirt: I want to check all files with one command15:19
Onkeltembackslash: to be sure files were not modified15:19
hylianMonkeyDust: sorry man. i get a lot of people here though that don't actually read my question all the way through, and post to me something I have already known for eons. but, I need to learn more patience with people, so please forgive me.15:20
blackshirtWinshing_Master: maybe not a line printer :D sorry, lol .. that come from /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/char/lp.ko15:21
BoondoklifeOnkeltem You have hashes of every file on your computer?15:21
OnkeltemBoondoklife: I don't know, I asking it15:21
Boondoklifeno prob15:21
OnkeltemBoondoklife: can Ubuntu check itself?15:21
Boondoklifeyou have to have a existing signature to compare it to15:22
Boondoklifeso doing an md5 of each file is pointless15:22
Boondoklifebest thing to do would be to check the mtime of the files15:22
Boondoklifebut that can be faked15:22
OnkeltemBoondoklife: I understand that, but I think there should be a way with apt/dpk15:22
OnkeltemBoondoklife: does they keep md5 of every file?15:22
Onkeltemdo*15:23
BoondoklifeNo, they keep them for packages as a whole I believe15:23
tsimpsoneach package comes with md5sums of installed files15:23
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Boondoklifethere ya go Onkeltem :-)15:23
jluchello15:24
jlucIs there any  tool that might be used to define keyboard shortcut for scribus actions ?15:24
Onkeltemtsimpson: yes, that is what I exptected. So how to perform this integrity check?15:24
BoondoklifeCheck here: http://kemovitra.blogspot.com/2010/07/checking-integrity-of-debianubuntu.html15:25
ubuntuuser1i just installed phpmyadmin.....the page for phpmyadmin opens after i type localhost/phpmyadmin......it then asks for the password but doesnt accept any...whats the problem?can anybody help??15:25
tsimpsonOnkeltem: well you'd pass each list of sums to md5sum (from /), eg: "cd /; md5sum -c /var/lib/dpkg/info/bash.md5sums"15:25
tsimpsondo that for all the *.md5sums you find, and see what pops up15:26
Boondoklifelooks like it would be a long, painfull process15:26
black_13in the grub menu what partition does (hd0,1) reference to?15:26
Boondoklifethe second one of the first drive15:26
OnkeltemDamnit, I think my Ubuntu is compromised :(15:27
ubuntuuser1Onkeltem: i just installed phpmyadmin.....the page for phpmyadmin opens after i type localhost/phpmyadmin......it then asks for the password but doesnt accept any...whats the problem?can u help??15:27
OnkeltemAnd I can't check is this true or not? :(15:27
blackshirtubuntuuser1: you should remember what is the password.. or you can use user root of mysql and respective password15:27
Boondoklifethen reinstall and use your backup that you made.15:27
ubuntuuser1blackshirt: i typed the password which i set but it doesnt accept any15:28
OnkeltemBoondoklife: last installation took 2 weeks15:28
OnkeltemBoondoklife: I have no time15:28
BoondoklifeWell you have a baseline backup, no?15:28
ubuntuuser1blackshirt: i reinstalled phpmyadmin again and set new password and tried but the same problem15:28
BoondoklifeIf not I feel for ya man, call it a lesson learned15:28
blackshirtubuntuuser1: what is the error appeared ? some wrong user name and  password ?15:29
sinanI am stuck in a loop in my login screen: whenever i provide my password i am taken back to the login screen. what can i do?15:29
OnkeltemBoondoklife: how can backup help if I don't know what to look for15:29
k4r1manyone knows how to resole " wine1.5 : Depends: wine1.5-i386 (= 1.5.13-0ubuntu1)" when installing wine1.5?15:29
BoondoklifeOnkeltem, a backup would allow you to backup your data and restore the OS15:29
OnkeltemBoondoklife: how would I know when mware was got into the system?15:29
BoondoklifeThen you could put your data back in place15:29
BoondoklifeDo it anytime something like that happens here via clonezilla and PXE15:30
OnkeltemBoondoklife: I had time yet to work out appropriate backup solution15:31
OnkeltemBoondoklife:  can you recommend one?15:31
BoondoklifeClonezilla is great15:31
OnkeltemBoondoklife: is it using some server on the Internet?15:31
Boondoklifemake a baseline back of your OS, before you start putting data into it15:31
ubuntuuser1blackshirt: it says the control info u set are not correct......so i removed the package phpmyadmin......15:31
Boondoklifeyou can have it on a boot cd/usb or network boot via PXE15:31
blackshirtubuntuuser1: i have phpmyadmin too ... i can login with mysql user (root) and the phpmyadmin user created when install15:32
Boondoklifeit is very robust15:32
Anomie21I've moved my computer to a different desk and my taskbar is at a weird resolution, It's only letting me select from 2 resolution settings in appearance - any ideas? (was working fine before the move with the same comp/monitor) ?15:32
blackshirtubuntuuser1: i think something bogus on your installation15:32
michinaohi15:33
ubuntuuser1blackshirt: i already removed the package.....now is there any better option to install again as per u know???15:33
OnkeltemBoondoklife: thanks. But currently I have no additional LAN servers/data storages :(15:34
BoondoklifeOnke sounds like your setup needs some planning desperately.15:35
BoondoklifeI would sit down and sketch up a reliable setup15:35
estudiantetyruihf15:36
BoondoklifeFor your issue at hand though, if you really feel you've been compromised then a reinstall is the only 100% sure way to get rid of it15:36
estudianteholaaa15:36
estudiante habla en español15:36
bazhang!es | estudiante15:36
ubottuestudiante: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:36
estudiantesiiii15:36
estudiantehoola15:36
bazhangestudiante, english here15:36
kriston1Anyone ever get Remote Desktop to work without having to disable desktop composition?15:37
ubuntuuser1blackshirt: i installed it from software center again.......and it asks for username and password......is there any default username and password??15:37
Sailor_MoonIkonia, are you here?15:37
Sailor_MoonIkonia, if you see my message: thank you for you advise; the best text editor is setedit)15:37
ubuntuuser1blackshirt:  hey its the error "#2002 Cannot log in to the MySQL server"15:38
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Sailor_Moonping Ikonia15:38
blackshirtubuntuuser1: thats the problem, check your mysql service was running or not ? you should ensure it15:38
ubuntuuser1blackshirt: how to check that?? im jst a beginner so dont hab much idea15:39
Sailor_Moonping Sailor_Moon15:39
Sailor_Moonsorry; bye!15:39
blackshirtubuntuuser1: pm me15:40
discoveredhi15:42
blackshirtdiscovered: hi15:42
BoondoklifeHi discovered15:42
dr_willismoo15:42
lotuspsychje!cowsay:moo15:42
rudolph_,dr_willis MOOOOO!15:43
discoveredhow can i right click on the Panel ? I am trying to add Luncher Icon on the panel .. ALT+Right-click does not work15:43
ubuntuuser1blackshirt: how to pm?15:44
YokoBRubuntuuser1, type "kiss <username>"15:44
ubuntuuser1kiss blackshirt15:45
blackshirtYokoBR: :D15:45
ubuntuuser1lol15:45
YokoBRlol15:45
* jrib admits he laughed15:45
blackshirtYokoBR: maybe kill blackshirt :D15:45
dr_willissuper alt right click15:45
ubuntuuser1YokoBR: seriously how to send pm?15:46
bazhangubuntuuser1, /msg nickname message15:47
bazhangubuntuuser1, best to ask first15:47
jribubuntuuser1: note that it's a good idea to keep support discussion in the channel so everyone can help you as well as benefit15:47
ubuntuuser1bazhang: thanks15:47
ubuntuuser1jrib: hope so :)15:48
Okan_hey guys15:50
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Okan_I need a help15:50
bazhangOkan_, with what15:50
Okan_about ubuntu 12.0415:50
bazhangOkan_, whats the issue15:51
ougogoHello, how to install the driver "b43-fwcutter" on lubuntu, knowing that there is no internet connection? This is mostly due to dependencies that I do not know how.15:51
Okan_so I got 2 disks on my ultrabook15:51
Okan_1 is hdd 1 is ssd15:51
Okan_my win7 is on hdd15:51
bazhangOkan_, all on ONE line15:51
Okan_I wanted to install ubuntu on ssd driver, I choosed Something Else created all partitions on ssd. When I reboot win7 started, I could not add ubuntu on bootloader15:52
deffragHow can I check if a particular command/process is run on/after every boot?15:52
dr_willisougogo:  easy way it to just run a cable/plug in to lan for a few min. otherwise it may take a lot more work15:52
dr_willisOkan_:  you pur grub on thr mbr of the ssd?15:53
Okan_here is my Disks http://i48.tinypic.com/2dr6lj7.png15:53
ougogodr_willis : i've no lan box, i'm on friend wifi15:53
Okan_I have no idea of that15:53
auronandaceOkan_: change the boot oder of your disks in the bios15:53
dr_willisyou  did set bios to boot the ssd hd?15:53
Okan_Maybe I am doing something wrong after I choose Something Else*15:53
dr3mrohello , is there a way to make dolphin (Qt) the default File manager in Ubuntu 12.04 ? will that give a stable system ?15:53
francispereiraanyone has kdump working on Ubuntu 12.04 ? I have setup kdump-tools but dump kernel does not get loaded on manually triggering a crash15:54
dr_willisdr3mro:  i bet it would cause a lot of little  issues..15:54
Boondoklifedeffrag, is it a compiled app or script? If it is a script add an echo "RAN" > /tmp/startup.checker to it15:54
Okan_Maybe I can change the boot the ssd. but then I wont load Win7 I guess?15:54
Boondoklifeif it is a compiled app check and see if it has a logging option and turn it on15:54
bebojneed heelp, wvdial dosen't detect my internal gsm modem..15:54
dr_willisOkan_:  grub has  a menu to boot either os15:54
Boondoklifethat should tell you when it is started15:54
ubuntuuser1bazhang: when i open phpmyadmin....and type the username and password it says "#2002 Cannot log in to the MySQL server" how to solve the problem??15:54
BluesKajdr3mro, kde desktop or unity/gnome ?15:55
Boondoklifedeffrag, otherwise just use `ps -Al | grep "appname"` and see if it is listed15:55
dr3mrodr_willis, Thank you ! I will then Move to KDE as it has a more suitable to my needs file manager .. thank you !15:55
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rabbi1can someone help me with permission for /var/www and its folders ?15:57
rabbi1owner should be root or me ? and group should be www-data ?15:57
jribrabbi1: that's up to you15:58
jribrabbi1: you probably want www-data to be able to read most of what's in there, everything else, is up to you and what works best for your circumstances15:58
rabbi1jrib: i am unable to create a folder/ edit inside /www ..... so 777 is ok ?15:58
blackshirtrabbi1: www-data15:58
blackshirtrabbi1: that was not recommended lol15:59
jribrabbi1: 777 is usually not what you want.  How many users will be editing the files in /var/www/?15:59
morsnowskirabbi1, out of the box I see root and root15:59
morsnowski-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 177 Jun 25 01:21 index.html15:59
rabbi1morsnowski: root root with rwx access and others will be www-data with 755 access ?16:00
deffragThanks Boondoklife16:00
morsnowskilike said this is what i get out of the box16:00
BECgenii-around, could you please post again what to edit (.conf?) reg suggestions/recommendations? (i quit & lost the history)16:01
rabbi1morsnowski: that's out of box, but i can create a directory or file16:01
blackshirtrabbi1: thats a bad thing, sure16:02
morsnowskias long as you grant read to everyone you should be good16:03
rabbi1morsnowski: this is my development pc, i alone use it., so no probs16:04
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blackshirtrabbi1: it is a bad habit,sure16:05
Thisguy_Hey, I can't figure IPtables out and all the tutorials I've found seem to be outdated. How can I firewall out everything except a specific port?16:05
lotushey, I'm trying to add a printer that's on a samba network and I don't know where on the network it is.  The "Find Network Printer" tool doesn't seem to be detecting it either.  Any help?16:05
rabbi1so i think i can chmod 777 username .... ? but also i need www-data to add/ edit/ delete files16:05
rabbi1blackshirt: so, what's the best then ?16:05
DeltaWhyI installed cinnamon from this guide a few days ago: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-cinnamon.html16:05
DeltaWhytoday it crashed leaving me with no panel or wm, and when I restarted they still don't run16:06
lotus   16:06
HaikuVboxDeltaWhy: cinnamon isn't supported16:06
lotus 16:06
DeltaWhyanywhere I can go to get help with it then?16:06
lotus  ugh!16:06
awole20(it is gorgeous though)16:07
Thisguy_I need help allowing only specific ports on iptables and dropping everything else. Am I in the right channel?16:07
feep_hi16:08
Thisguy_Hello.16:08
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DeltaWhytrying to start it from the command line I get "undefined symbol: meta_prefs_override_preferences_location"16:09
feep_you can use google..16:10
Sidewinder1!google > feep16:11
feep_Er..16:11
Sidewinder1Oops. :(16:11
feep_- -#16:11
DeltaWhyfeep_, doesn't return any results16:11
feep_ok.i get it16:12
feep_you have a red name.16:13
bzilHi, How can i join a french canal please ?16:13
jribbzil: /join #ubuntu-fr16:14
bzilthanks16:14
theadminOkay, I'm experiencing a weird issue. I'm on Precise. All the powermanagement checkboxes are unchecked, except laptop lid event handling... Now, the problem is this -- after literally *seconds* of idling, the screen turns off.16:14
jribtheadmin: output of "xset q"16:14
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Thisguy_Lol, a french Canal :P16:14
jribThisguy_: take off shoes and jump in?16:15
chamunksis there a good way to convert /dev/video0 to something streaming?16:15
theadminjrib: http://sprunge.us/aLUT16:15
chamunksI want to use my webcam with zoneminder and am wondering if there is a way to handle this in ubuntu.16:15
Thisguy_I need some help working with IPtables.16:15
Thisguy_Any takers?16:16
jribtheadmin: did you set those dpms times?  Those are in seconds16:16
chamunksI'm running 12.04 lts server i38616:16
theadminjrib: I'm pretty sure I don't know what "DPMS" is, so probably not...16:16
jribtheadmin: the third line from the bottom in your paste16:16
theadminjrib: Do see it -- um, so how do I fix it? System Settings -> Power Management of KDE is no help.16:17
theadminjrib: To be precise (no pun intended): http://i.imgur.com/5rwi4.png16:17
jribtheadmin: I don't know where those settings are exposed in the gui (though I am sure they are somewhere).  You can set them with: xset dpms X Y Z    where X, Y, and Z are in seconds.  These settings will *not* persist after a reboot I think16:18
jribtheadmin: try changing them now to something like 600 (10 minutes) so we can make sure we are looking in the right place for your issue16:18
theadminjrib: Making them persist is not an issue, I can just put it in start up apps... Can I disable this screen madness *completely*? I don't want my screen to go blank at all... except maybe on lid close16:18
theadminjrib: Ok, I'll do that and wait a minute -- should I run that as root?16:19
jribtheadmin: I use "xset dpms 0 0 0".  There may also be a way to just disable dpms altogether, but I'd have to read the man page.  You should run it as your user (no sudo)16:19
theadminjrib: Ok, that worked, now to put that in startup apps... Still wonder what the reason could've been16:21
hellslingerhello everyone, does anyone know how to get nautilus 3.5.90 installed on quantal? I installed the beta an updated it, but nautilus is still on 3.4.216:21
jribtheadmin: you can drop it at the end of ~/.xprofile (MAYBE).  I don't remember if that still gets sourced16:21
genii-aroundBEC: I had to do some work, available for a few minutes now. The file you want to edit/create is /etc/apt/apt.conf  ... the relevant entry would be: APT::Install-Recommends "0";  If you additionally wanted you can put too: APT::Install-Suggests "0";16:21
theadminjrib: System Settings -> Autostart, no need to go complex ways.16:22
auronandace!12.10 | hellslinger16:22
ubottuhellslinger: Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+116:22
jribtheadmin: your definition of complex differs from mine ;)16:22
trismhellslinger: quantal support in #ubuntu+1, and nautilus was reverted to 3.4 for quantal because there isn't time to adapt to all the changes in 3.5 before the release16:22
jribtheadmin: but yes, your way should work too16:22
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theadminjrib: Well, with GUIs doing things the "traditional" way hardly works16:22
hellslingertrism: is there a way to get 3.5.90 installed through a PPA?16:22
trismhellslinger: take it to #ubuntu+1 and I'll check16:22
hellslingerroger that16:22
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PatrickCdid the "install alongside windows" option get removed from Ubuntu 12.04.116:24
PatrickC?16:25
crizislikely not? :P16:25
PatrickCi have the options: Replace Windows with Ubuntu or "Someting Else"16:26
PatrickCno more "Install ubuntu along side windows"16:26
BECgenii-around, thanks & have a good day :D16:26
ar0nicits under something else16:26
PatrickCar0nic: do you happen to know what?16:27
PatrickCi want to keep my windows partition, but shrink it to like 60gb ;)16:27
ripthejackernetwork connections are not visible in network connections panel16:28
ripthejackeris this a bug?16:29
ripthejackerfor the connections to show up i have to disable networking an enable  it again16:29
Sidewinder1PatrickC, If you're going to shrink the NTFS partition, DEFRAGMENT it, at least twice, prior to any other manipulation.16:30
PatrickCSidewinder1: never done that before when installing ubuntu, as there has always been an "Install alongside windows" option that i used16:30
PatrickCso should i defrag the HDD a few times before resizing it? and should i use gparted to resize it or a partition manager in windows?16:31
PatrickCnever had to do it myself ;)16:31
fazhi ! i cant mount my iphone16:33
BluesKajPatrickC, some say to defrag before resizing windows partitions , can't hurt16:33
PatrickCafaik iphones and ubuntu don't play nice.. but i might be wrong (havent done it in a while)16:33
PatrickCBluesKaj: kk.. should i use gparted from a live cd to resize or resize in windows?16:33
Sidewinder1PatrickC, The drfrag is done from/within the win OS; you may wish to resize it (the NTFS partition) also, from within the win OS. I've never resized from within win, but have read many times that that is the preferred method.16:34
PatrickChmm...16:34
* PatrickC wishes the option was still there :P16:34
fazooh i seee16:34
BluesKajPatrickC, gparted is probly best ..I use thje live cd version myself'16:35
PatrickCBluesKaj: i have it booted from a Live CD right now16:35
Sidewinder1PatrickC, Just stay as far from WUBI as you can; WADR to the developers. of course.16:35
BluesKajok , gotta go run some errands , BBL16:35
PatrickCWADR?16:35
PatrickCi used to use WUBI, it's a nice program.. if you want to TRY ubuntu16:35
PatrickCnot run it full time16:35
Sidewinder1PatrickC, With All Due Respect.16:35
PatrickCah16:36
PatrickCWUBI is amazing for newbies to linux, who just want to try16:36
Sidewinder1Yes, to "Try", not as a long term situation.16:36
PatrickCreally helped me out when i was new(er) to linux ;)16:36
PatrickCexactly16:36
soulissonHi, if i install a deb package using dpkg, can i safely remove the deb file ?16:36
MonkeyDustsoulisson  yes16:36
PatrickCsoulisson: yes16:37
Sidewinder1PatrickC, Here is a GREAT resource, if you've not already seen it: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index16:37
soulissonit wont cause problems if decide to remove the program after using dpkg -r ?16:38
Sidewinder1PatrickC, It's written and maintained by an ubuntuforums.org, moderator.16:38
PatrickCSidewinder1: their instructions to do windows and ubuntu... WUBI -___-16:38
xeniumhi all16:38
TheShrubjoin vim16:38
Thisguy_Halp wif the iptables pl0x?16:38
PatrickChey xenium16:38
Thisguy_I need to reject everything but things going over certain ports16:39
Thisguy_The rules look good but it won't work.16:39
xeniumi had bad problems with my pc16:39
ar0nicyou dontneed wubi16:39
Thisguy_I did -P INPUT DROP and added -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT but it doesn't let me browse the web, even non-https-compatible sites16:40
ar0nicjust choose other options and install along side windows16:40
Sidewinder1PatrickC, Yes, he is rather confusing regarding WUBI; you need to read his entire site to fully understand his rationale, but, I don't particularly agree with him; at least on that point.16:40
PatrickChe also used the server CD for installing heh16:41
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PatrickCsaid it was the desktop CD16:41
delinquentmehow to show all groups from the command line?16:41
PatrickChttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/installingprecise07.jpg16:41
PatrickCwhy do i not see this....?!16:41
PatrickClol16:41
soeeany ida whats wrong here: Torchlight.bin.x86_64: 1: Torchlight.bin.x86_64: Syntax error: "(" unexpected ?16:42
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truexfan81any plans of updating pulseaudio in 12.04? current stable is 2.1  12.04 has 1.116:42
ar0nicPatrickC its there16:42
PatrickCar0nic: i'm looking at the screen16:42
ar0nicboot into livecd then install16:42
PatrickCit's not16:42
Sidewinder1PatrickC, That screenshot may be from a previous version of ubuntu.16:42
ar0nicwhat version16:42
PatrickCi'm booted into the live cd16:42
PatrickCar0nic: 12.04.116:43
ar0nicits the something else option16:43
ar0nicit should be in there16:43
PatrickCit's not16:43
PatrickCbut it says "Windows 8" and i don't have Windows 8 installed16:43
PatrickCi have Windows 716:43
PatrickCso i'm wondering what the heck this computer is thinking right now haha16:43
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truexfan81probably one of those id10t errors16:44
markus___hey i am trying to debug a kernel issue, however I get a black screen just before anything usefull is displayed, is there any way to redirect kmsgs to ttyUSB0 after I have logged in?16:44
Sidewinder1PatrickC, Are you familiar with http://ubuntuforums.org?16:44
PatrickCSidewinder1: not really16:44
charlar28i have problems with audio with ubuntu 12.04, the dirty solution is kill pulseaudio and restart it, someone with the same problem?16:45
Sidewinder1PatrickC, It, also is a fantastic resource; especially the 'search' function.16:45
Sidewinder1PatrickC, But, obviously not as quick as here, on IRC..16:46
PatrickCyeah16:46
PatrickCi love IRC ;)16:46
Sidewinder1PatrickC, I strongly suggest that you register {it's free} :-) there and avail yourself of all that it has to offer.16:47
PatrickCSidewinder1: i'll register there.. and wait for my friend who is on the ubuntu dev team to return to his computer ;)16:47
delinquentmehow do I check what users are in a group?16:47
Sidewinder1That's actually how I learned; well before I discovered this channel.16:48
Sidewinder1PatrickC, There are some very nice/knowledgeable folks there; then there's me.. ;-)16:49
PatrickCi'm the same way lol16:49
truexfan81anyone else in here using the 12.04 minimal iso? i love it16:49
PatrickCi would.. but i like bloatware in my installs ;)16:50
truexfan81lol16:50
SnapSnapAnyone know if PlayOnLinux has a channel?16:50
truexfan81PatrickC: i switched from mint13 to 12.04 minimal, it feels like i got a cpu upgrade lol16:51
PatrickClol16:51
truexfan81its so much faster without all the bloat16:51
PatrickCwhat cpu u have truexfan81?16:51
truexfan81athlon2 24516:51
truexfan81dual 2.916:51
PatrickChow much RAM?16:51
truexfan81mobo is maxed out at 4GB16:52
PatrickCnice16:52
PatrickCi normally use a full desktop ISO16:52
PatrickCmight go server and build it up with a WM16:52
PatrickCthinking of doing that right now actually.... heh16:52
truexfan81with 12.04 minimal it only uses more than a gig of ram when i have firefox running16:52
truexfan81when i kill firefox it goes down to around 700MB of ram used lol16:53
truexfan81i have conky running thats how i know that16:53
PatrickCif i'm wanting to do a fully custom install, should i do a server install and then build off of that or a minimal install?16:53
Sidewinder1PatrickC, As you're probably aware, server is CLI; has no desktop/GUI, unless you add one..16:54
truexfan81depends on what you want to use it for16:54
truexfan81Sidewinder1: i did the minimal install and chose not to install a de16:54
PatrickCSidewinder1: i would install something like cinnamon16:54
truexfan81then later from the cli i installed xorg and mate 1.416:54
PatrickCand truexfan81, building Android and other open source distros ;)16:54
Sidewinder1Kewl.16:54
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truexfan81oh nice16:54
PatrickCbut you can install a WM inside of server?16:55
truexfan81PatrickC: how would Android run on a pc? i mean how well16:55
Sidewinder1bbiab16:55
PatrickCtruexfan81: that i coulnd't answer16:55
PatrickCtruexfan81: i'm on an android ROM team16:55
PatrickCand i also do some open webOS stuff16:55
truexfan81PatrickC: i'm sure you probably could install a de, but you would have probably have to install xorg as its likely not installed16:56
truexfan81on the server iso*16:56
PatrickCit would be worth it16:56
PatrickCit would run so much faster ;)16:56
truexfan81faster than the route i took?16:56
PatrickCnot sure16:57
PatrickCbut faster then a full desktop16:57
truexfan81oh i also built and installed pulseaudio 2.1 on it16:57
PatrickCand the server is still a 700MB download.... :S16:57
truexfan8112.04 comes with pulseaudio 1.116:57
PatrickClink to the minimal download truexfan81?16:58
truexfan81one sec16:58
truexfan8164bit or 32?16:58
PatrickCthx16:58
PatrickC6416:58
truexfan81same as me lol16:58
PatrickCLOL16:58
PatrickClol*16:58
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truexfan81its only a 30MB file16:58
PatrickCbut i'll have to run a 32 as well :S16:58
truexfan8132bit iso is 25MB16:58
PatrickCholy crap16:59
PatrickCthe server iso is 657MB16:59
TJ-PatrickC: You can run a 32-bit userspace on a 64-bit kernel.16:59
truexfan81yeah thats the full server iso16:59
PatrickCTJ-: really?16:59
PatrickCTJ-: some of the things i build require 32 bit16:59
truexfan81PatrickC: the minimal iso is a netinstall thats why its so small16:59
PatrickCtruexfan81: gotcha16:59
TJ-PatrickC: Of course. The interfaces are the same. I have that on my USB sticks.  I install the 32-bit minimal to a stick, then manually add the 64-bit kernels. That allows me to boot the stick with full hardware support no matter what the device is17:00
truexfan81you want the 12.04 LTS?17:00
PatrickCtruexfan81: yep17:00
truexfan81http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso17:00
PatrickCTJ-: instructions on that somewhere?17:00
TJ-PatrickC: 32-bit is best for 2GB or less; 64-bit will show benefits for 4GB+17:00
PatrickCTJ-: it has 3GB17:01
charlar28one question17:01
TJ-PatrickC: Not really needed. Install the 32-bit as you normally would. Once done, install the 64-bit kernel images too, using "sudo apt-get install linux-image:amd64 linux-headers:amd64"17:01
PatrickCTJ-: awesome, thanks17:02
truexfan81well in that case17:02
truexfan8132bit: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso17:02
PatrickClol thanks truexfan8117:02
truexfan81np17:02
TJ-PatrickC: The only thing not to be caught out by is that GRUB doesn't name the boot entries as 32/64 bit so make sure you know which one is which  - or manually change the grub.cfg menu entries and/or edit the scripts in /etc/grub.d/ to do that17:02
charlar28if i have installed a 32bits ubuntu and i have 8gb ram, the program userspace is 4gb but the system will use the 8gb if 2 processes uses 4 gb?17:03
TJ-charlar28: correct... on 32bit PAE the kernel can address all memory, but each process is limited to 4GB17:03
PatrickCTJ-: so in essence it installs both 32 and 64 bit versions?17:03
charlar28thanks TJ17:03
PatrickCand just boots the different kernels?17:03
TJ-PatrickC: No - you're not installed a 64-bit userspace, just the kernels17:03
DLabzhi, all.. our entire network crashed as software we use pushed update that requires new Air... I know Air is not officially supported, but ... is there unofficial way of installing new Air?17:04
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TJ-PatrickC: for most modern Intel-based CPUs, they support long-mode (64-bit) as well as 32-bit, so a 64-bit kernel is OK. For CPUs that don't support long-mode, a 32-bit kernel is required. Ubuntu ships with a PAE 32-bit kernel by default now, which can address more than 4GB of RAM, but each process is still limited to a 32-bit address space (4GB)17:05
PatrickCTJ-: i know my computr can handle the 64bit, ran it for a while17:06
PatrickCbut some things i build require 32 bit to build17:06
PatrickCso would i be better off going your route or just running a VM?17:07
delinquentmeif I want to put the password to a user name login ... inline with the ssh command ... how do I do this?17:07
OerHeksPatrickC, since 11.10 ubuntu is multi arch17:07
Guest21031Hi, I'm running Linux Mint maya (3.2.0-23-generic). When I run lsmod I can see my wireless driver (ath9k,ath9k_common,ath9k_hw). However when I run hostapd I get the following error: invalid/unknown driver 'ath9k'. Can anyone help?17:07
PatrickCOerHeks: cool.. that still doesn't help the building issue ;)17:08
OerHeksGuest21031 some can help in the mint irc17:08
genii-around!mint17:08
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org17:08
TJ-PatrickC: 32-bit user-space means less memory taken up by programs in many cases, since pointers and other CPU structures are only 4-bytes wide, not 8 bytes as they are on a 64-bit CPU. The advantage of a 64-bit CPU is, it has more general purpose registers so many functions can load their parameters into registers without needing intermediate reading/writing to (slow) RAM, thus making programs faster. That's why we say there's a trade-off and the cut-off point is aro17:08
TJ-und 2 or 3GB17:08
PatrickCgotcha.. i think i'll got with 64 then17:09
TJ-PatrickC: as OerHeks said, Debian and Ubuntu are now multiarch. That means that 64-bit and 32-bit libraries can be installed alongside each other. No longer do we have the pain of the old ia32libs issues17:10
truexfan81PatrickC: if you take my route and not install a de, i found the easiest way to install xorg17:10
PatrickCtruexfan81: when you say "DE" what do you mean?17:11
PatrickCnever heard that term before17:11
truexfan81desktop environment17:11
truexfan81kde, xfce, mate, cinnamon, etc17:11
TJ-Always back-up your back-ups. DVD data recovery status: elapsed time 8 hours; estimated remaining 21 hours17:11
PatrickCah, i always called them WM (window manager)17:11
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OerHeksTJ-, i find building 32 bit apps on 64 bit quite hard to do17:11
truexfan81but yeah if you take the route i did and not pick one in the installer, it will not install xorg17:12
TJ-OerHeks: Yeah, there are some issues until all the libraries are sorted out. I've hit a few issues with overlapping -dev packages17:12
truexfan81the easy way i found to install that later is sudo apt-get install xinit17:12
PatrickCgotcha17:13
PatrickCdownloading the 64 bit then burning it to a DVD in a few miuntes17:13
PatrickCstupid slow internet haha17:13
TJ-PatrickC: there's a difference between a DE and a WM:  http://www.ghacks.net/2008/12/09/get-to-know-linux-desktop-environment-vs-window-manager/17:13
truexfan81if you internet is slow you are going to hate the installer17:13
PatrickCoh no17:13
PatrickClol17:13
truexfan81lots of data to be downloaded17:13
PatrickCi have about 3MBP/s17:13
charlar28bits or bytes?17:14
TJ-It has to be downloaded one way or the other... better to use the minimal installer and only fetch the packages you want, than to download the server/live installer which contains packages you don't want17:14
truexfan81mine is 22megabits, but i've seen torrents hit 3.4megabytes/second17:15
PatrickCTJ-: exactly.. that's why i want the minimal installer/server17:15
captinePatrickC, i can dream of getting that speed.17:15
PatrickCcaptine: what you on?17:15
* TJ- laughs. This is beginning to sound like a Monty Python sketch17:15
PatrickCwhat WM/DE do you guys use? truexfan8117:16
bekks!poll | PatrickC17:16
ubottuPatrickC: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.17:16
captine6MB, but in the Philippines.  Lucky to ever get close to 1MB/s17:16
truexfan81i use Mate 1.4 and its window manager Marco17:16
PatrickCbekks: i understand there is no single "best" app... just getting opinions17:17
PatrickCi've used several different WM's, mainly cinnamon is my favorite.. just wondering what others are using hehe17:17
PatrickCheh*17:17
jeniahello everyone.17:17
jeniai installed the ftp server17:17
truexfan81PatrickC: mate, cinnamon are sadly not options in the installer17:17
PatrickCtruexfan81: that's fine.. i can install it from cmd line17:18
jeniaand there's a line there to allow anonymous connection17:18
truexfan81after it booted into cli i added the mate ppa and installed it that way, there was one package i had to install before it would let me add the ppa17:18
zetheroois there any way to have Nautilus File Manager open with the dual pane mode already enabled? It's such an absolute pain having to re-enable it every time I open it!17:18
jeniai dont think that that's what i need17:18
jeniai would like to to be like in ssh17:19
truexfan81PatrickC: one sec i'll look in my logs and see what the package was, it was python-something17:19
jeniawhere i do ssh jenia@some_ip17:19
jeniapassword*17:19
jeniais there a way to achieve that?17:19
captinePatrickC, have you used Unity much?  I am really enjoying it.  Seen lots of different views, but it works really well for me as a casual user17:19
PatrickCi hate unity17:20
odinsbaneI have a new computer and ubuntu does not recognize the internet cable. it works fine from windows so the connection should work.17:20
charlar28jenia, on server sudo apt-get install ssh or sshd dont remember17:20
jeniaokay17:20
jeniaand then?17:20
CTLwmunity sucks17:20
odinsbaneI17:21
charlar28jenia, from a client ssh jenia@someip -> user the jenia's password on server17:21
charlar28use*17:21
truexfan81PatrickC: to install mate from cli you will first need to install python-software-properties17:21
odinsbaneI've never had the wired connection not work, so I'm not sure where to begin.17:21
dr_willis_unity works very well here and is geting some neat features in 12.1017:21
jenia(i want to install an ftp server, and to login into it as myself.:jenia)17:21
PatrickCi think i'm going to go with XFCE actually17:21
CTLwmtry MATE17:21
truexfan81ok that will be much easier then17:21
CTLwmits like the old gnome shell17:21
jeniacharlar28, i want to install an ftp server. but its configured to connect with anonymous clients17:21
PatrickCi love gnome shell17:21
dr_willis_mate and cinimon are not supported here.17:21
PatrickCi think i might install MATE then :)17:21
truexfan81CTLwm: no its like gnome217:21
jeniacharlar28, whereas i would like to connect to it as myself: jenia17:22
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CTLwmjenia: why do you want install DE on ftp server?17:22
llutzjenia: you want to read the documentation of the ftp-server you installed, mainly the configuration-options17:22
truexfan81PatrickC: did you like gnome2?17:22
charlar28jenia, then you should read the documentation to enable local user authentication17:22
jeniawhat a DE?17:22
PatrickCi love gnome 217:22
truexfan81thats what mate is17:22
PatrickCtruexfan81: no kidding...17:22
CTLwmtruexfan18: i meant gnome shell in general nothing particular; i.e. gnome 3 or gnome 2....17:22
charlar28jenia, probably reading the config file of ftp you can find what you need17:22
CTLwmand yes the old gnome shell is the gnome 2 or previous versions17:23
jeniaokay thanks17:23
truexfan81PatrickC: when gnome dropped gnome2 mate project picked it up17:23
PatrickCnice!17:23
dr_willis_gnome2 is/was lacking in many ways.. but its basically dead now. ;)17:23
PatrickCmeh.. still the best UI ever ;)17:23
PatrickCi HATE Unity with a passion17:23
PatrickCmy friends who work for Canoical try to get my to use Unity... i told them no :P17:23
dr_willis_gnome2 was devinatly not the best...17:24
truexfan81PatrickC: in mate nautilus is now Caja, gedit is now pluma17:24
PatrickCi use sublime for text editing anyway...17:24
PiciCan we please move the non-support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic so that the folks who really need support here can get it?17:24
truexfan81metacity is Marco17:24
Pici!offtopic17:24
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:24
PatrickCsorry Pici17:24
truexfan81PatrickC: lets move over to the offtopic channel as they ask17:24
odinsbaneHow can I find which ethernet card I have?17:25
charlar28odinsbane lspci17:25
genii-aroundodinsbane: lspci -nn | grep Network17:25
PatrickCnow heres a support question... :P just burned the minimalistic iso to a CD, and it won't boot...17:25
genii-aroundodinsbane: The -nn part here will give you the vendor:device code which can be very useful to look up17:26
PatrickCbrb17:26
odinsbanehmm it is atheros it seems that it should be in the kernel.17:27
charlar28error code, or blank screen PatrickC?17:27
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delinquentmedoes a ssh key contain information about a user or just a machine?17:28
delinquentmelike if server A's shared ssh key is placed on server B  ... any user on A can get into B?17:29
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ugethello all, i have plan to upgrade my ubuntu without doing fresh install mainly because i want to experience an upgrade from CD. how can i do it?17:29
awole20delinquentme: as in, anyone can get at/load the ssh key?17:29
jribdelinquentme: any user with the private key corresponding to that public key17:30
awole20delinquentme: anyone who has access to the key can log into authorized servers17:30
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Ihsan008Hello, I need professional help to configure my Ubuntu installation. Well, I tried to install Ubuntu several times, becuase I was trying to get my (second) video card (nvidia) running, but without succes I was messing up so I must reinstall Ubuntu again... My notebook is a Asus K52Jc, it has an Intel vcard and a nvidia card (GeForce 310M), I never got the nvidia driver installed correct. When i start nvidia-config (or something) it said that i17:33
delinquentmeawole20, jrib for the multiple users who are sudo on server A ... they all have access to B17:34
TommehMI am getting this error when compiling flightgear, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1217173/17:34
jribdelinquentme: anyone with the private key can access the account on the remote server that you've placed the public key in17:34
odinsbanelinuxine sucks17:35
delinquentmejrib, how do I know what users have access to a particular private key?17:35
hyliani am looking for a program that will let me launch a menu app from openbox. the same menu as alacarte. I have been using xfce4-panel, but I was wondering if there was something a little simpler? I just need to run it from time to time, not always.17:35
TommehModinsbane, Linuxine?17:35
delinquentmedo all sudo have access to all private keys?17:35
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awole20delinquentme: generally ssh key security depend on user access controls - so sudoers would technically be able to access everyone's keys17:36
captineIhsan008, i am no expert, but my laptop has intel and nvidia GT540.  the intel works out the box, but i use bumblebee to activate the Nvidia card17:36
delinquentmeawole20, ok check thanks17:36
delinquentmeone more... Also does ubuntu have a specified dir within /usr   that would be advisable for storing data about a server running on that machine?17:36
odinsbaneSome website that comes up with searches for linux problems. TommehM17:36
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jribdelinquentme: data like?17:37
awole20though, to be fair, password encryption may make it 'hard' for sudoers to use the keyfile, it's not impossible to be cracked.17:37
Ihsan008Hmm, okay, I think I must do the same as you do captine. Could you please exaplin me or give tips on how to use bumblebee and what it actualy does, since im quite new into this. I would really appreciate :)17:37
delinquentmeim serving up files located in /usr/local/*17:37
delinquentmeconfig data for that rails application17:37
dr_willis_!optimus17:37
delinquentmebut its config data unique to that machine ... so its not in the repo that everyone has17:37
dr_willis_!bumblebee17:37
delinquentmedr_willis, !tinkywinky17:38
captineIhsan008, i am very new to this too, but basically, my understadning is bumblebee is a work around for nvidia optimus laptops, as linux doesnt currently have support in the kernel/nvidia drivers17:38
TommehModinsbane, Link?17:38
hyliandr_willis_: I don't think ubottu is very knowledgeable about the Transformers universe. LOL. :)17:38
dr_willis_the askubuntu.com site and ubuntu wiki pages have some info on those17:38
SomeoneWeirdthere was a tool I found a while back that downloads literally the base essentials for debian/ubuntu, anyone know the name of it?17:39
TJ-delinquentme: Yes, the /usr/local/ directories are the place... it sounds like the kind of thing you'd put in /usr/local/etc/<appname>/17:39
Ihsan008Okay, thank you :) Im so happy now I got a solution for this. Uhm could you please provide me a source (link) to the site where yo udownloaded or got info about bumblebee and about how to use? You made my day captine, really :P17:39
jribSomeoneWeird: define "base essentials"17:39
dr_willis_SomeoneWeird:  debootstrap17:39
TJ-SomeoneWeird: debootstrap17:39
zetherooI cannot believe a basic function of a file manager such as dual pane by default is still not implemented in Nautilus!17:39
hylianSomeoneWeird: you wheren't thinking of suckless-tools, where you?17:39
dr_willis_the askubuntu.com site and ubuntu wiki pages have some info on  bu,mblebee17:39
odinsbaneTommehM: http://www.linuxine.com/story/ubuntu-wired-connection-not-working-017:39
delinquentmeTJ-, thanks17:39
captineIhsan008, I had followed the instructions here:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee17:39
TommehModinsbane, Okay.17:39
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c_nickif i have to pay someone via paypal what should i ask that guy to provide me ?17:40
SomeoneWeirdnah hylian, this downloaded the actual files for the os17:40
jrib!ot | c_nick17:40
ubottuc_nick: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:40
c_nickok thanks17:40
TommehModinsbane, I got the answer to that when reading it. :p17:40
Ihsan008Oh, official thread, nice :). So do you always use optirun <application> to run with nvidia or is it possible to just use nvidia card only? This was my alst question :)17:40
Ihsan008Oh, and what is the best to use Ubuntu 32bit or 64bit (without dual boot)17:41
TommehMJust by reading the last part where he states it refuses to get an IP, I would have just done dhclient eth0 :p17:41
dr_willis_i use64bit on all 64bit hardware17:41
hylianIhsan008: what is an alst question? ;)17:41
PatrickCinstalling ubuntu minimalistic, says "missing firmware brcm/bcm43xx-0.fw"17:41
Ihsan008last*, sorry :$17:41
hylianIhsan008: i was just teasing a little. I am notorius for typo-ing. :)17:42
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Ihsan008Haha I see ;)17:42
captineIhsan008, once installed, you need to use the command "optirun" and then the application you are opening, to activate the nvidia card.  after some searching, found an application called "Main Menu" which lets you edit the launchers in ubuntu. you can add "optirun" to the  "command" option17:44
TJ-zetheroo: There may be a setting you can find using 'gsettings'17:44
zetherooTJ-: man, I wish :P17:45
Ihsan008Okay, well, I got all the info I was looking for, for now. I'm really happy with the IRC and (professional) help! Thank you, I'm gonna install Ubuntu now! :) Bye17:47
PatrickChave fun Ihsan008!17:47
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Thisguy_I set up iptables to block everything after it accepts on port 80, but it just blocks everything. I tried -P DROP, and also tried -A -j DROP for INPUT, ofc not the same time. Neither worked... -j DROP WAS on the end btw.17:48
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Thisguy_Tried those with -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT17:49
escottThisguy_, i think you should be doing the reverse. drop everything then accept 8017:49
Thisguy_Will do17:49
Thisguy_So I don't disconnect, what's the IRC port again? 6667 destination?17:49
penreturns6665 6666 666717:49
Thisguy_6665:6667 ;) ty17:50
ironhalikOk, wth - I suddenly lost my sound after reboot17:50
odinsbaneany luck with multitouch touchpads?17:50
zetherooTJ-: is there a GUI for gsettings?17:51
escottzetheroo, gconf-editor or dconf-editor17:51
TJ-zetheroo: I was wondering that :p17:51
zetheroook ;)17:52
Thisguy_Test17:52
Thisguy_Ping17:52
Thisguy_Seems to have gone back to dropping everything.17:53
escottThisguy_, what does your rule look like17:53
Thisguy_Pastie?17:54
Thisguy_Brb17:54
escott!paste | Thisguy_17:54
ubottuThisguy_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:54
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Thisguy_This'll d/c me ;)17:54
TJ-zetheroo: I've just gone through the Nautilus source-code; there's no setting for that17:55
zetherooTJ-: it's a real shame that!17:56
TJ-zetheroo: I think it's a pretty silly oversight really17:56
Thisguy_http://paste.ubuntu.com/1217231/17:56
zetherooTJ-: from what I have read it's no oversight17:56
TJ-Thisguy_: what's the pastebin ?17:56
zetherooTJ-: seems more like the Gnome guys purposely removed the feature17:56
Thisguy_http://paste.ubuntu.com/1217231/17:57
TJ-zetheroo: I respectfully claim the 5th amendment, on the grounds that my comments may tend to incriminate me :p17:57
zetherooTJ-: hehe ... you lost me ;)17:57
ugetpeople here seems to be don't like responding a newbie question. i have been waiting for minutes to get answer, but no response. some other time, i will come back with "professional" and "smart" questions. Thank you.17:57
trismzetheroo: I wouldn't get too attached to it anyway, the feature was removed in 3.517:58
dr_willis_uget or they are busy17:58
Thisguy_TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1217231/17:58
zetherootrism: I find it ludicrous that the option of remembering the dual pane mode was completely removed!17:58
TJ-Thisguy_: why are repeatedly pasting a link to a pastebin? How about asking a question!?17:59
Thisguy_OH. You mean what's it of. Sorry. It's my firewall rules as requested by escott...17:59
trismzetheroo: no, I mean dual pane was removed (so I suppose no option too)17:59
TJ-Thisguy_: Is it causing you problems?17:59
Thisguy_I wanted help, since whether DROP all is in back or front it seems to take precedence. I can't set my firewall up.18:00
zetherootrism: so dual pane is completely removed in 3.5?18:00
Thisguy_Of course, it's not on that RIGHT now.18:00
Thisguy_Flushed INPUT.18:00
escottThisguy_, what is "dpt"18:00
TJ-Thisguy_: OK, well to begin with, yes, it ought to be the LAST rule else the other rules won't be processed18:00
trismzetheroo: yep18:00
TJ-escott: Destination Port18:00
Thisguy_How come they refused to process when they were first?18:00
zetherootrism: gosh, what are they doing!? Maybe Canonical will have to come up with their own file manager18:01
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trismzetheroo: yeah there is quite the discussion about it on the unity-design and ubuntu-desktop mailing lists18:01
Thisguy_...perhaps INPUT and --dport aren't made to work together?18:01
TJ-Thisguy_: You are running a local HTTP and IRC server?18:01
Thisguy_Nope.18:01
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trismzetheroo: offtopic here though18:01
Thisguy_Wrong interface?18:01
deffragWhat should be the command when you encounter a huge man page and you have to fetch from command line a particular option/flag description? Like, from man x11vnc -nevershared flag18:01
Basilichello all, I have do a big mistake, I launch "apt-get remove python", and most program was remove, can I reinstall all default program?18:01
TJ-deffrag: Pipe it through "less" ... as in man <somepage> | less18:02
llutzThisguy_: you're running neither http nor irc server, so what sense does your Chain "INPUT" make?18:03
TJ-deffrag: Or do you mean 'search' the page? in that case, when 'man' has started, press "/" and type a regular-expression to search for. Press Enter to search. Press "n" for 'next' match. Use "?" to search backwards.18:03
xanguaBasilic: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ; should reinstall all default programs...what were you even trying to do that you even ignored the warning that a lot or packages were hoing to be removed :P18:03
mbeierluget: you use the alternate CD, not the live CD.  Then follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades#Upgrading_Using_the_Alternate_CD.2BAC8-DVD18:03
TJ-Thisguy_: Your rules are on the INPUT chain; that is packets coming into an interface from an external connection.18:03
PiciTJ-: man uses your $PAGER, which is less by default.18:03
Thisguy_How about I put what i want in words XD I want to block all input except what I need to go on the web.18:04
rjuneI'm trying to preseed an Ubuntu installation I have "d-i tasksel/first multiselect standard, edubuntu-desktop" But the installation is not installing the edubuntu-desktop18:04
TJ-Pici: I know, but I misread the implication of the question initially and thought the problem was the man page output scrolling past too fast18:04
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PiciTJ-: ah18:04
llutzThisguy_: you don't need to allow  anything in INPUT to access irc/web18:05
Thisguy_When I tell INPUT to drop everything, I cannot use either.18:05
deffragTJ-: No, plain command to fetch particular flag description18:05
deffragI remember reading it somewhere, it was probably using awk or something, not able to remember18:05
TJ-deffrag: I'm not aware there is one, that's why man uses a pager that has regexp search abilities18:05
Thisguy_Again, perhaps I'm accidentally telling it not to accept loopback input?18:06
TJ-deffrag: You could use grep -A x -B y .... of course18:06
mbeierlThisguy_, you need to allow estisting connections to be accepted in input.  This must come before the drop: iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED, ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT18:06
TJ-Thisguy_: What you want is a rule to allow existing ESTABLISHED, RELATED connections18:06
deffragTJ-: Yes, what is $PAGER in man?18:07
Thisguy_Oooohhhhhh, that makes sense.18:07
* TJ- laughs... like that ^^^^^^^^^^18:07
Thisguy_XD18:07
* mbeierl nods18:07
llutzThisguy_: http://gr8idea.info/os/tutorials/security/iptables1.html18:07
* TJ- pats mbeierl on the back ... saved me some typing!18:07
Thisguy_No spaces though...18:07
Thisguy_;)18:07
* mbeierl smiles gratefully18:07
Thisguy_Hah! I'm still Internetting!18:08
Thisguy_Thanks y'all!18:08
trijntjeAfter an update, windows is missing from the grub menu. What can I do to fix this?18:08
TJ-I guess the guy on a connection from FW1 ought to know that off the top of his head :p18:08
Thisguy_*saves iptables*18:08
mbeierlThisguy_, team effort.  You win!18:08
Thisguy_Let's restart to see if I fixed it to start automatically :D18:12
Thisguy_Thanks again18:12
hashemI'm trying to update to shotwell 13. I added the ppa:yorba/ppa, and ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, but nothing happened and I still have 12.3. I18:17
Congmaybe it's not in the repo, hasham.18:18
machicolaoff a typical ubuntu install (running 11.10) would I have kernel headers installed/available by default?18:19
machicolaoff of*18:19
hashemCong, it lists it on launchpad though: https://launchpad.net/~yorba/+archive/ppa18:19
Conghasham, have you checked the repoes?18:19
hashemCong, how do I do that?18:20
Congtry package.ubuntu.com18:20
Conghttp://package.ubuntu.com18:20
dr_willis_machicola:  i dont think so18:20
dr_willis_!headers18:21
ubottuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages18:21
machicolanice, thanks dr_willis18:23
hashemCong, in the packages.ubuntu.com in the precise updates repo there is shotwell 12.3. I added the ppa for yorba, which has shotwell 13. Shouldn't that override the precise updates repo?18:23
CongI think. Download the source and compile it yourself.18:24
TJ-hashem: "apt-cache policy shotwell" will tell you what versions will/are installed, and where they'll come from18:24
ActionParsniphashem: yes, if there is a later version available from any source, it will be used18:25
xanguahashem: you should read the site you paste:18:25
xangua shotwell                        18 hours             ago18:26
xangua          Waiting to build18:26
mirajyes, not having been built yet might be a problem18:26
hashemAh thanks xangua. I assumed if it was listed on that page it was already built.18:26
hashemThanks for the help, all.18:27
Guest56675Hey guys!18:27
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mirajwhat's a "Max SendQ"?18:27
BossdosNew user with ubuntu!18:27
BossdosCan some help me, i moved from mint to ubuntu, installed side by side with windows18:28
Bossdoshad 120 GB with mint so chose 10 GB with ubuntu thinking i could just use my mint drives18:28
Bossdosi cant find it18:28
Bossdosdownloaded a partion program18:29
Bossdoswhat file system does ubuntu use?18:29
escottBossdos, you want to use the mint $HOME?18:29
BossdosHi escott!18:29
mirajBoosdos : what filesystem were you using with Mint?18:29
BossdosI just deleted everything18:29
xibalbahey folks, anyone have a way i can tell how many GHZ I'm actually getting inside of a linux box that's a virtual machine"?18:29
Bossdosjust want the space for programming and file storage 10GB isnt enough18:29
BossdosHi miraj, i was using ext218:30
mirajBossdos : how did you "delete everything"?18:30
escottxibalba, the GHZ don't change, performance will be lower because of some overhead and because you don't allocate all cpus to the vm18:31
Bossdosmiraj: I used a windows, during the installation (Vista) i had the option to delete18:31
escottBossdos, ext4 is standard for ubuntu these days. unclear what you did "i just deleted everything" doesn't mean much to me18:31
Bossdosescott: I used a windows, during the installation (Vista) i had the option to delete18:32
mirajBossdos : do you mean the Vista install program deleted the entire Mint partition?18:32
Bossdosmiraj: Yeah, the HD size is 750 MB allocated 500 to Vista, the rest was Mint and just deleted it18:33
crizisi'm quite confident you cannot install vista to 500 MB18:33
crizis:)18:33
PatrickCvista????18:33
Bossdoscrizis: Sorry i ment GB18:33
PatrickCwho in their right mind wants to install vista?! :P18:34
mirajBossdos : that means there is no more Mint drive for ubuntu to use. You've need to use some re-partitioning software to make Vista give back some space18:34
crizisPatrickC, someone who needs windows and happens to have license for it?18:34
BossdosI am using GParted now trying to change the file system18:34
Bossdosso that it will show in my home folder18:34
codeMonkeyHello all.  I am trying to complete a full, uncompressed backup of my / directory to an external hard disk (preserving permissions and ownership) in Ubuntu 12.04.  The hard disk is /dev/sdd with a single ext3 partition.  I have /dev/sdd1 mounted to /mnt/external.  The command that I am using to complete this is "tar cvf - * | ( cd /mnt/external; tar xfp -)18:34
codeMonkeyThe problem I am running into is that the tar command is also hitting /mnt which hits /mnt/external and loops the backup of itself.18:35
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Bossdosmiraj: ubuntu can see my second HD18:35
escottcodeMonkey, any reason you dont want to use rsync18:35
PatrickCcrizis: i guess that might work..18:35
PatrickCbut i would rather run xp over vista myself18:35
codeMonkeyI have tried to use --exclude=/mnt with and without quotes and with and without wildcards and it never excludes properly18:35
hashemcodeMonkey, just use dd18:35
codeMonkeyMostly because I have not been suggested rsync before.  Would it do a better job?18:35
llutzcodeMonkey: --one-file-system   is what you want18:36
escottcodeMonkey, rsync would be easier, and would be resumable18:36
codeMonkeyI am under the impression was not viable for backups like I am doing.  Is that incorrect?18:36
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escottcodeMonkey, you cannot use dd to backup a mounted filesystem18:36
mirajBossdos : if Vista has taken all the disk space on SDA for itself, there just is nothing left for ubuntu18:36
codeMonkeyThats what I thought18:36
codeMonkeyOK.  I will go read man rsync and give it a shot.  also, --one-file-system would alleviate this with tar? Just in case?18:37
llutzcodeMonkey: you don't want to backup /dev, /sys /mnt etc.pp. so tar --one-file-system   or rsync -x    should be used18:38
Bossdosmiraj: The total space is 750 GB, 500 GB - Vista , 10 -GB Ubuntu , however i cant get ubuntu to see the rest of the space no what format i partion it to :(18:38
escottcodeMonkey, you are also not preserving permissions with your current tar command.18:38
mirajBossdos : what do you have for partitions?18:38
Bossdosmiraj: would it be okay if i PM'd you?18:39
mirajno18:39
escottcodeMonkey, you want something like: "rsync -xp / /mnt/external/snapshots/YYYYMMDD"18:39
codeMonkeyOk.  So to sum up, I need to use rsync with -x to exclude the specified directories as well as w/e command I read up on shortly to copy permission.  Will do thanks :)18:39
codeMonkeyI will give it a shot thanks escott :)18:39
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llutzcodeMonkey: "man rsync"  -x doesn't exclude dirs, it limits operation to ONE FILESYSTEM18:40
codeMonkeyOk Im heading for man rsync now :)18:40
escottcodeMonkey, and the second time around you can specify --link-dest=/mnt/external/snapshots/YYYYMMDD to save space with files that dont change18:40
codeMonkeythanks everyone18:40
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Koen_anyone knows what might be the problem if i can access vsftpd from lan and not from wan, i tested it with my firewall temperaly disabled and had no result18:42
mirajKoen_ : some ISP's block incoming connections because they don't want their users running any kind of servers18:43
llutzKoen_: "sudo lsof -i :21"  are you sure it listens on all interfaces, not localhost only?18:43
m3powguys is there any ubuntu software to watch online tv channels for free18:43
Koen_i've allready changed the listenport to 2121 because my isp block all below 1024, but with no result18:44
llutzKoen_: "sudo lsof -i :2121"  are you sure it listens on all interfaces, not localhost only?18:44
Koen_@ llutz, just runned the command and had no feedback18:44
mirajKoen_ : I know my ISP blocks the ports above 1024 too18:44
CTLwmKoen_: Have you confirmed that the port is open and visible with the service running?18:45
mmoebiusKoen_: use tcpdump or wireshark to see if there are any packets incoming from the source ip at all18:45
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llutzKoen_: no output? means no service listening on that port at all or you're using (x)inetd or something like that18:46
CTLwmKoen_: I would recommend you to test it out with canyouseeme.org and post results of ur port18:46
mmoebiusKoen_: and use 'iptables -nvL ' to see if ther rules really are gone and every policy is "ACCEPT"18:46
CTLwmmmoebius: I guess the new ubuntu version has ufw instead of iptables; not sure though18:47
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llutzisn't ufw just a frontend for iptables?18:48
jpdsllutz: Yes.18:48
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Koen_'iptables -nvL ' gives me following result iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)18:48
Koen_Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.18:48
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Koen_so that means i'm not running iptables right?18:49
mmoebiusCTLwm: ufw is an iptables frontend.18:49
mmoebiusKoen_: you are running iptables if using *buntu18:49
mmoebiusKoen_: Did you execute that as root ?18:50
mmoebiusKoen_: because that is required, so 'sudo ...' should do the trick18:50
Koen_yes, i'm running server version of ubuntu 12.0418:50
Koen_i disabled firewall now i think18:50
mmoebiusKoen_: btw, FTP servers of any kind seem to be an invitation to hackers ;-) Did you ever consider sftp ?18:51
Koen_still get connection refussed by server18:51
hadronports: why is port 80 open by default?18:51
mmoebiusKoen_:  do you see the packet coming in with tcpdump or wireshark ?18:52
criziseverything is open by default18:52
Koen_don't know how to setup sftp, and can't find a descent tutoral18:52
criziswhy it would not be18:52
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hadroncrizis, on 10.04 I didn't have any open ports!18:53
crizishadron, you sure did as 10.04 didn't have firewall on by default either18:54
Congit has a firewall on but all the ports are open18:54
Congwhich is the equivalent as not having one18:56
leaftwigHow do I stop the smooth scrolling? I want nonanalog looking instascrolling.  I use Firefox & Ubuntu 12.0418:56
leaftwigEspecially the Unity part of 12.0418:56
mirajleaftwig : I think the scrolling style is one of those barely-documented mozilla settings18:57
leaftwigTo the #firefox mirajman :D18:58
hadroncrizis, firewall? ufw?18:58
hadroni turned it on!18:58
leaftwig& tyvm :I18:58
hadronso did I on 12.0418:58
crizishadron, yes, but it's off by default18:58
crizishadron, also installing packages which use the ports add ufw rules automatically, like installing apache opens 8018:59
hadroncrizis, I did a port scan on a freshly installed 12,04 after activating ufw & 80 was open!!!18:59
crizishadron, check 'ufw status' for which ports are open by default19:00
ElixirVitaeNetsplit inbound, ei?19:00
ElixirVitaeor is it going to be down for all services?19:01
timtimciao a tutti19:01
timtim!list19:01
ubottutimtim: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».19:01
hadroncrizis, status: active19:01
crizishadron, status also lists open ports, likely common ones are open by default19:02
hadronnone19:02
hadronjust this line19:02
hadroncrizis, status verbose > active, on (low), deny (incoming), allow (outgoing), new profiles: skipe19:03
hadron*skip19:03
crizishadron, well, then it's on and working19:05
crizishadron, however you have 'deny' on which means firewall will inform the source that packet has been rejected, whereas 'reject' completely drops packet19:06
hadroncrizis, I remember very well that when on 10.04 I dida port scan & got all stealth! (do you think its an ISP thing?)19:06
crizisno, it's on and working19:07
crizisif you start service in some port, you cannot connect to it, that's for sure19:07
crizisthat port scan is so windows 9519:07
crizis:)19:07
hadroncrizis, its GRC's shieldsUP: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd219:08
crizishadron, 'ufw default reject in' changes to reject instead of deny19:08
Bossdosubuntu, is simply amazing! Way better than windows and the user interface is better than linux mint!19:08
crizisstill that pot scanning is useless19:08
hadroncrizis, isn't deny better given that no response to the "service", which could be a ping, scan or attack, than giving a feedback?19:09
tryingUbuntuis there an alternate for sound other than alsa?  I have a newer Hp with 4 speakers and the sound is REALLY bad!19:10
crizisirrelevant which is it19:10
hadroncrizis, besides, why is ufw off by default?19:10
criziswhy it should be on19:10
crizisthere are no services installed by default19:10
hadronif its not on why would be there in  the first place?19:11
crizisadmins job to configure it19:11
crizisdo you have some point here?19:11
hadron& the regular user falls prey?19:11
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BossdostryingUbuntu, by really bad you mean low sound?19:11
tryingUbuntuBossdos yes and quality19:12
hadronthe un-knowledgeable19:12
BossdostryingUbuntu, have you been the Ubuntu Audio Development Team page?19:12
tryingUbuntuBossdos its not the speakers, dual boot windoze and they work fine19:12
hadronQUERY [-nofocus] crizis19:12
shomonhi - I've got a fujitsu stylistic here I want to get ubuntu on.. is it possible?19:12
crizishadron, #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic talk19:13
shomonit's an st5112 I think19:13
tryingUbuntuBossdos no idea that it existed.  Is there troubleshooting or what should I look for at their site?19:13
BossdostryingUbuntu, you are using ALSA right? I just found them myself (still new to ubuntu)19:14
hadroncrizis, thanks anyways :)19:14
PatrickCwould probably be better to ask in here... got a question about partitioning, anyone available?19:15
hadronPatrickC, exactly what?19:15
PatrickCmaking a new partition on my HDD for ubuntu to live on19:15
PatrickCjust resized windows 7, now i have unallocated space19:15
hadronaha19:15
PatrickCshould i turn it into a partition or leave it unallocated?19:15
RichardRaseley_What is the best way to share files in an all Ubuntu environment (combination of desktop and server)?19:16
hadronPatrickC, just a min19:16
PatrickCkk19:16
Eric___Having problem with software Center, when I open it all I get is a blank screen.19:16
sysopSo I have been having issues with my wired ethernet19:16
sysopadaptors19:17
sysopand now I just did a fresh install of ubuntu and I am getting consistant redirects to go.timedirect.ru19:17
hadronPatrickC, http://opensource-sidh.blogspot.com/2012/04/ubuntu-1204-installationdual-boot-with.html19:18
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hadronPatrickC, go to step 319:18
PatrickChadron: i'm installing ubuntu minimalistic19:18
PatrickCso no GUI like that19:18
hadronusing a cd?19:19
PatrickCyeah19:19
hadronwhere did u get it from? link?19:19
rafaelhy everyone19:19
rafaeli need help19:19
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PatrickChttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso and http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso19:20
Guest92091i have a token certified.. on the tokenadmin its works, but in java program no.19:20
Guest83511nevermind just changed from opendns to google... has something to do with thier dns servers19:20
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_XMENDESi have a token certified.. on the tokenadmin its works, but in java program no.19:20
PatrickCit's a net installer hadron19:20
_XMENDEStoken type card readr19:20
hadronPatrickC, ah; fo ra notebook? or installs it from the net? hehe19:21
rgenito_hai19:21
hadronI use the regular .iso & the gui is there19:21
PatrickCinstalls from the net ;)19:21
hadronnever used the netboot!19:21
RichardRaseleyAny input on the best method to share files in a pure Ubuntu (mix of Desktop and Server) environment?19:21
PatrickCit's basically the same as a normal installer, just doesn't have bloatware in it ;)19:21
hadronI suggest u do it with the regular iso instead or use a usb!19:21
PatrickCinstalls only what you need19:21
PatrickCeither way, would i format the unallocated space or leave it alone?19:22
gordonjcpPatrickC: if it's unallocated, you can't format it19:22
PatrickCwell, not format19:22
PatrickCpartition19:22
genii-aroundRichardRaseley: nfs19:22
gordonjcpPatrickC: oh, yeah, you might as well19:22
hadronyou need to creat a partition out of it then format it to ext419:22
PatrickCcreate it as a primary partition or an extended partition?19:23
RichardRaseleygenii-around: Thank you.19:23
_XMENDESanyone?19:23
hadronPatrickC, how many other partition uve got?19:23
PatrickCone19:23
PatrickCjust this one and windows 719:23
hadronPatrickC, well u can have up to 4 primary partitions; its up to u19:24
PatrickCwhat's the differences?19:24
_XMENDESneed help19:24
hadronnot sure about that! but i know u can create an extended with more than 4 logical paritions under it19:24
wilee-nilee_XMENDES, The channel requests you ask a question related to your problem.19:24
kodakHello all19:24
MonkeyDust_XMENDES  start with a question, if you want help19:25
kodakfirst off, bravo on the installer, very smooth and smart looking (this is my way of saying "fresh install")19:25
Koen_btw, guys, ive resently used SSD card to install linux on, but when i try to format it in windows trough installation process, i can't access the drive anymore, anyone an idea howto format drive in ubuntu to make it accessible again?19:25
hadronPatrickC, for example, my system: 4 partitions: 1 factory utilities, 1 Diagnostics, 1 Windows, 1 Extended (another win partition, & 4 linux partitions)19:25
_XMENDESok .. i  have a token certified.. on the program token admin.. it works.19:25
_XMENDESbut on my java certified its dont work19:26
MonkeyDust_XMENDES  in 1 line please19:26
kodakHows does one, A, get latest nvidia drivers and, B, make sure SLI is on(it isnt now, one core card is hot, the other cold)19:26
hadronI suggest you make an primary partition if its only 1 partition; otherwise make an extended if u plan to divide ur linux partition19:26
_XMENDESok .. i  have a token certified.. on the program token admin.. it works. but on my java certified its dont work19:26
cromagKoen_: an idea could be formatting it from ubuntu with ntfs system on it19:26
hadronPatrickC, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/19:26
PatrickCna, no dividing19:26
Koen_thx cromag, gonna try it19:26
cromagread about mkfs.ntfs i think it's called19:27
hadronPatrickC, what partitions do u plan on?19:27
PatrickCprimary ubuntu and windows 719:27
PatrickCwas thinking about moving /home to a separate partition, but not gonna19:27
wilee-nileeKoen_, Is there an unallocated space for windows to see? If you make a NTFS in ubuntu for the install put a bootflag on that partition19:28
_XMENDESnothing?19:28
hadronPatrickC, I suggest: Extended partition under which there is at least / & /home (that's better if ur / failed or ur doing a fresh isntall; u dont format the /home & u keep ur data 7 preferences)19:28
gordonjcp_XMENDES: #java maybe?19:28
_XMENDESi gonna try there.. tks19:29
PatrickChmm.. ok19:29
hadronPatrickC, Ubuntu Installation Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/index.html | Recommended Partitioning: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/apcs03.html19:29
marko-_-Hello today i woke up and my fan was loud as hell. The temperature is normal, everything's working fine just my fan is going crazy. I have an asus k52j laptop and i was just wondering is there a way to make the fan work quieter automaticly? I'm not doing hard stuff on it, so don't worry my temperature will go way up19:29
_XMENDESonly guests on #java :(19:29
hadronPatrickC, a good guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28201819:30
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hadronPatrickC, btw, am not sure what's the difference between the netboot & the alternative disk, but the alternative disk gives u more options & a non-graphical installer19:34
jpdshadron: The netboot one is suppose to download packages from the net.19:36
hadronjpds, like the ones to be installed? or the installed to be run?19:37
jpdshadron: Installed.19:37
jpdshadron: The netbook also features the non-graphical installer.19:37
someprimetimewhat permissions should js files have on a server?19:37
jpdssomeprimetime: Nothing special?19:38
someprimetimejpds: so chmod -R 755 js/ would be fine?19:38
hadronPatrickC, jpds says: The netbook also features the non-graphical installer.19:39
jpdssomeprimetime: Why would you want them to be exectuable?19:39
RichardRaseleyWhen logging into Ubuntu server, I see notices that show "X Packages Can Be Updated" but doing an apt-get update doesn't seem to change this number... what gives?19:39
PiciRichardRaseley: use apt-get dist-upgrade19:40
jpdsRichardRaseley: Do an upgrade instead.19:40
PiciRichardRaseley: er, rather what jpds  said19:40
jpdsRichardRaseley: Instead of just 'update'ing the package indexes.19:40
RichardRaseleyPici & jpds: Thank you19:40
someprimetimejpds: so chmod -R 644 js/19:40
jpdssomeprimetime: Probably, though maybe: js/*19:40
someprimetimejpds: good call19:40
someprimetimethx19:40
epinkycould anyone give a hand with RADIUSproxy?19:41
PatrickCok, now time to do the partition19:41
kevin1961Hi, I am using evolution can anybody tell me how to make new categories, all I get is "On this Computer" and personal. How do I access the long list that is available ?19:41
kevin1961ok of to see youtube19:45
hadronI'm busy19:45
rgenito_grr,  i think i'm just going to put debian on this laptop...hopefully that'll fix the issue with my faulty wireless driver. =\ or at least i think that's the problem19:45
mcb_I made a disk image from a server to an external driver. O reinstaled grub in the external drive, changed the UUIDs in /etc/fstab  and in /boot/grub/grub.cfg. I more then double checked this and they are all right. I use this same method with Debian 6 and works to perfection. In Ubuntu, Grub loads OK, but it hangs just after, with no erro message, just the blinking cursor in the left upper conner of the screen. I can see that external drive led blink two, 19:45
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DarthExpeditorMy swap is only 255mb, is there a way to expand it without screwing everything up?19:46
jrib!swap | DarthExpeditor19:47
ubottuDarthExpeditor: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info19:47
jribDarthExpeditor: you could use a swap file19:47
jribDarthExpeditor: but ram is pretty cheap nowadays...19:47
rob_hi, is it possible to boot from the ubuntu livecd but use the rootfs from an encrypted harddisk?19:47
kodakHow does one turn on SLI in ubuntu?19:48
wilee-nileemcb_, Does reinstalling grub include putting it in the mbr, and booting from that drive?19:48
DarthExpeditorI have 4gb of memory in this system19:48
jpdsepinky: → #ubuntu-server19:48
DarthExpeditorshould I just ignore the complaint?19:49
jribDarthExpeditor: what complaint?19:49
epinkyjpds: sir, yes sir!19:49
jpdsDarthExpeditor: Add another swap partition/file?19:49
jpdsDarthExpeditor: What complaint?19:49
DarthExpeditorThe system is running great but Nagios keeps throwing an alarm because my swap is at 100%19:49
mirajdid the server transfer finish yet?19:50
jpdsDarthExpeditor: OK, so create a new swap partition/file or resize some partition to make space.19:50
jpdsDarthExpeditor: Or find out what's swapping so much and stop it.19:50
mcb_wilee-nilee: sure thing. I reinstalled grub in the external drive in the MBR of that drive, the partition is bootable, and the erro happens as i try to boot from it.19:51
DarthExpeditorI'm hesitant to try to resize any partitions because I am using wubi19:51
DarthExpeditorI can just create another swap file?19:52
jpdsDarthExpeditor: You have Nagios monitoring a system that running on Wubi?19:52
DarthExpeditorNot exactly19:52
PatrickCbase system is installing :D19:52
wilee-nileemcb_, Sorry for the double question you had actually answered that in your first post.19:52
* jrib is now curious19:52
DarthExpeditorI am practicing installing Nagios and working with it on my workstation that runs wubi19:52
drecutehi mentors19:53
marko-_-Hello today i woke up and my fan was loud as hell. The temperature is normal, everything's working fine just my fan is going crazy. I have an asus k52j laptop and i was just wondering is there a way to make the fan work quieter automaticly? I'm not doing hard stuff on it, so don't worry my temperature will go way up19:53
MonkeyDustwubi :(19:53
DarthExpeditorI am also trying to figure out if I can get away with not running windows at all on my workstation19:53
jpdsDarthExpeditor: Typically, I would use virtual machines instead.19:53
DarthExpeditorYeah19:53
DarthExpeditorAnd the deploy version will be on our Proxmox server19:53
mcb_wilee-nilee: Grub loads ok. If i look at the grub command with the "e" option, it is pointing to the right UUID.19:53
DarthExpeditorI'm just learning its quirks and how to work with it on here.19:54
kodakwould sudo nvidia-xconfig --sli=AFR activate my SLI or screw with my X server?19:54
drecutePlease I'm writing a startup script for JIRA and I'll like to get a review on the LSB aspect. http://codepad.org/RwqOLOFL19:54
DarthExpeditorI have yet to need my Windows OS since I installed wubi19:54
wilee-nileemcb_, Is this a clone of the original or a custom cd install made from it?19:54
DarthExpeditorMy boss was insisting that I would need Windows19:54
DarthExpeditorI have proven otherwise19:54
mcb_wilee-nilee: Clone.19:54
mcb_wilee-nilee: Same everything, just in another disk.19:55
LazyTownplease help, 911,  just tried to enable mpm_worker mod on my ubuntu server and now its not serving php,  guys in apache room would rather give me shit about need reading close enough then to help me fix it.. what do I do?  It send my php unparsed as a file download.19:55
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wilee-nileemcb_, Sounds like you know what you are doing, not sure why it would not run from the info so far, maybe a bad clone?19:56
drecuteplease I need LSB help on this startup script: http://codepad.org/RwqOLOFL19:56
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mcb_wilee-nilee: I made it more than four times.... Same result. And i tested in the same server, and in other machines to rules out Hardware issues. As i said, I use this method with Debian 6, Grub 2, machine and works all time. This problem is only happening with Ubuntu.19:57
mcb_wilee-nilee: I also tryed to do update-initramfs and grub-update after the grub install.... Same problem.19:59
wilee-nileemcb_, Are you chrooting the mbr install and running a update-grub after tweaking /etc/default/grub?19:59
kodakHow do i enable sli without using xorg.conf(isnt it outdated?)19:59
mcb_wilee-nilee: Sure.19:59
MonkeyDustLazyTown  there's also the channel #ubuntu-server19:59
LazyTownthank you MonkeyDust!20:00
wilee-nileemcb_, Not sure myself, I clone often but install on the same HD using clonezilla. Shouldn't be a driver problem I would think with a server.20:00
leaftwigHow do I find out what wifi driver my Ubuntu uses?  You have my gratitude for reading this & contributing to the community.20:00
kodakHow do i enable SLI without using xorg.conf(isnt it outdated?)20:00
kodakoops, double post, sorry20:01
marko-_-Hello today i woke up and my fan was loud as hell. The temperature is normal, everything's working fine just my fan is going crazy. I have an asus k52j laptop and i was just wondering is there a way to make the fan work quieter automaticly? I'm not doing hard stuff on it, so don't worry my temperature will go way up20:01
mirajleaftwig : "lspci"20:01
kevin1961jajaja lots of helps and no replies :-)20:01
theadminkodak: xorg.conf is not "outdated", it's just not there by default. If you need it for something, you can very well create it and it will be used upon next start of X20:01
mcb_wilee-nilee: If it was a driver problem, i should expect and "Module XXXX not loaded" erro message.20:02
leaftwigy thank u miraj :D20:02
kodakah, so, erm, im still lost on how to get sli working though theadmin20:02
mcb_wilee-nilee: I will also try some help in #ubuntu-server...20:02
theadminkodak: Well, I can't really help you on that (just saying things that I thought might help, sorry, I don't even know what a "SLI" is)20:03
kodaktheadmin, thanks then :) (sli is a nvidia setting to use two cards)20:04
theadminkodak: Oh that, uhh, you might want to use Jockey to get the propretiary NVidia drivers (it's called "Additional Drivers" in the menus) and then use their config tool20:05
PatrickCnows when i have no clue what to do.. :P20:05
PatrickCwhat kernel should i install?20:05
PatrickCgeneric?20:05
hadronwhat are the options? Im tryin gto help but now sure about it20:06
kodakthanks theadmin20:06
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PatrickCtons of options hadron20:06
PatrickClinux0generic, linux-server, linux-generic-pae, then different images20:06
hadronPatrickC, I guess it linux-generic-pae20:07
MrBushido is there anything like netlimiter for linux? it's a taskmanager like app that breaks down bandwidth usage by process and allows you to limit each processes max bandwidth20:07
gordonjcphadron: What exactly are you trying to do?20:07
MrBushido                   http://www.netlimiter.com/img/scrshots/nl2shot_limit.png20:07
theadminPatrickC: linux-generic-pae is probably your best choice20:07
PatrickCwhats the difference between -pae and non?20:07
gordonjcp-pae allows you to use PAE20:07
hadrongordonjcp, me? nothing, tryint to help PatrickC20:07
PatrickCgotcha20:07
gordonjcphadron: ah, okay ;-)20:08
gordonjcpPatrickC: What exactly are you trying to do?20:08
PatrickCgordonjcp: doing a minimalistic install20:08
gordonjcpPatrickC: get the mini iso and have at it20:09
PatrickCthat's what i did20:09
gordonjcpPatrickC: that's about as minimal as you can go, without getting seriously off into the weeds20:09
PatrickCnever done a setup like this though20:09
PatrickCso it's all new to me ;)20:09
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drcodehi all20:10
drcodeany one know how can I know cpu temp?20:10
hadrondrcode, install acpi & run acpi 0t20:11
hadronacpi -t20:11
drcodethanx20:11
hadronwelcome20:11
wilee-nileedrcode, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto20:12
diablotinhello guys20:12
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drcodethanks20:13
diablotinDoes anyone knows about hostapd ??20:13
kodakwhen editing xorg.conf, is it enough to just reboot X, or do i need to reboot computer?20:13
mirajkodak : just restart X20:14
kodakthanks miraj20:14
MonkeyDust!info hostapd20:14
ubottuhostapd (source: hostapd): user space IEEE 802.11 AP and IEEE 802.1X/WPA/WPA2/EAP Authenticator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.7.3-4ubuntu1 (precise), package size 358 kB, installed size 896 kB (Only available for linux-any; kfreebsd-any)20:14
gordonjcpdiablotin: a tiny bit20:14
Oimel1987I have two HDDs in my Notebook. How can i install the partitions so that the core system is on HDD 1 and the userdata and installed programs on HDD2 ?20:14
diablotinI compile it and I have a problem with the authentification20:14
diablotinI can attach a device (my cell phone) without wpa20:15
mirajOimel1987 : partition it, create a filesystem on it, and add it to your fstab20:15
diablotinand as soon as I set wpa to protocol 1 or 2 i can't attach my phone20:15
diablotincould you help me gordonjcp ?20:15
Oimel1987miraj: i want to make a fresh ubuntu install on it20:16
diablotinhere is the error message I get "deauthenticated due to local deauth request"20:16
diablotinany clue ?20:16
mirajOimel1987 : from what you said you wanted to do, you'd do the fresh ubuntu install on SDA, then setup drive SDB and add it to your fstab file20:17
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Oimel1987miraj: isn't it possible over the partition table of the installer ?20:20
HeadlessZombiemy 16GB flashdrive has reached its max writes. about to install to new flash drive.  What i have: 4GB flash drive and an 8GB flash drive. The 4GB is newer and has more writes available. what install / partition scheme should I use If i wanted to use both drives to get the most storage space?20:20
vacho_hey guys20:21
vacho_how do I create root user from terminal?20:21
mirajHeadlessZombie : a 4gb system drive is scarcely enough20:21
HeadlessZombieadduser20:21
diablotinvacho_: add the new user to the admin group20:21
guntbert_vacho_: you don't need one20:21
vacho_I don't need one?20:22
guntbert_!root | vacho_20:22
ubottuvacho_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo20:22
HeadlessZombieyou have 1 already20:22
vacho_ok.20:22
vacho_basically I want to create a user that has full priviligies..how do I do it?20:22
PatrickCdang this setup takes a LONG time20:22
HeadlessZombiesudo sudo dolphin20:22
HeadlessZombieyou dont20:22
PatrickCsudo rm -rf /20:22
HeadlessZombiedont do that. this isnt windows.20:22
PatrickClol20:22
guntbert_HeadlessZombie: stop giving bad advice please20:22
chopvacho_: sudo passwd20:23
theadmin!danger | HeadlessZombie, PatrickC20:23
ubottuHeadlessZombie, PatrickC: DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!20:23
gordonjcpchop: don't suggest that people do that20:23
gordonjcpvacho_: don't set a root password20:23
forkbomberlol20:23
guntbert_vacho_: adduser has an otion to create a "system" user, try that20:23
guntbert_*option20:23
gordonjcpvacho_: the whole idea of having a root login is utterly obsolete20:24
chopjust because ubuntu decides it's not a good idea to do what all of unix did for 30 years does not mean it's right20:24
guntbert_chop: stop arguing *here*20:24
chopguntbert_: i did not argue.20:24
lun4tichi does anyone know how to turn fullscreen mode on in torchlight or any humblebundle irc channel20:25
lun4tic? :D20:25
gordonjcpchop: having a root password set was obsolete 20-odd years ago20:25
gordonjcpchop: it was a glaring misfeature in Linux from day one20:25
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lun4ticthe damn unity bar always stays on top in windowed mode20:26
mirajYes, it's better when every script with  sudo command in it can take complete control of the system. More modern.20:26
gordonjcpmiraj: how would that happen?20:26
Cyberspaceloacan't believe people are still arguing about this20:27
gordonjcpCyberspaceloa: yeah.  The matter was settled in the early 1980s20:28
gordonjcpCyberspaceloa: sudo replaces having a root login.  Anything else is atavism20:28
oslinux_When I watch a video on youtube with the html5 player why the other applications have no sound ?20:28
crundar_how do you set limit which users can delete files. That doesn't fit under the rwx rubric I'm thinking of. Do I have to use ACLs to manage that?20:29
gordonjcpcrundar_: delete, but still be able to write?20:29
dhanasekaranHi Guys Filter Out Duplicate IP Addresses in network it's any automated tool is there20:29
gordonjcpcrundar_: there may be some extended attribute for that20:29
crundar_either?20:29
crundar_is delete normally treated as write as well?20:30
gordonjcpcrundar_: if you make something read-only it cannot be deleted *or* written but it doesn't sound like that's what you want20:30
Cyberspaceloacrundar_ you'd want to utilize groups, I'd think20:30
gordonjcpcrundar_: ACLs are a world of pain20:30
TJ-crundar_: You set the permissions on the *directory* that contains the files.20:30
ditoajust installed 12.04 in a VM20:30
Cyberspaceloaand only add the users you want to give permissions to into the appropriate group20:30
ditoawow! linux has come a long way. looks amazing20:31
gordonjcpditoa: since when? *All* OSes have come a long way...20:31
crundar_well, I want my whole group to be able to create, but no user able to delete anyone else's stuff. This is a shared directory20:31
gordonjcpwell, Plan 9 hasn't really20:31
i7cgordonjcp: except some :p20:31
ditoawell ive not used linux since ~200420:31
rstrtAfternoon, everyone. Can anyone tell me the command to add my windows 7 install from /dev/sdb to grub? The google results I get have a crazy amount of variance between links20:31
crundar_I'm trying to set up a shared media drive for the house20:32
gordonjcpcrundar_: okay, so normal permissions and umask20:32
Cyberspaceloawell, I'm no professional admin or anything, crundar_20:32
gordonjcpditoa: I'm not sure what you would be comparing it with, then20:32
Cyberspaceloabut to my thinking you can make the parent folder accessible globally20:32
gordonjcpditoa: it hasn't really changed significantly20:32
crundar_me neither.20:32
Cyberspaceloaand then give each user their own folder with the proper permissions20:32
ditoaone question tho, how do i disable the animations in the WM?20:32
gordonjcpcrundar_: so basically you can use umask to specify the "default" permissions of files created in a directory20:32
guntbert_gordonjcp: would the sticky bit help in crundar_'s case?20:33
ditoawell the whole interface is totally different to classic gnome i used back in 200420:33
gordonjcpguntbert_: possibly20:33
guntbert_!ot | ditoa20:33
ubottuditoa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:33
gordonjcpditoa: yeah, Unity is fairly new20:33
andrebhi all20:33
ditoais very nice20:33
takyon29I have wine and play on linux installed. But Team Fotress 2 keeps on on crashing during the loading screen. Any idea how to fix it?20:33
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gordonjcptakyon29: probably best to ask in #wine20:34
ditoai think i could quite easily replace windows with ubuntu providing all the hardware worked as it should20:34
CyberspaceloaI think you'd need to find a wine/pol specific group, takyon2920:34
gordonjcptakyon29: possibly #winehq, can't remember20:34
gordonjcpditoa: depends what you're trying to do20:34
Cyberspaceloacrundar_ did your question get answered?20:35
ditoajust as a simple end user; web, office, music, movies, iplayer, some light python work20:35
takyon29okay thanks. i'll ask that server.20:35
crundar_Cyberspaceloa: Well I'm investigating umask. I didn't know that it affected a particular directory. I just thought it affected the given proccess it was set for20:35
rstrtAnyone know how to add Win7 to grub? (Treat me like a complete idiot lol)20:36
gordonjcpditoa: pretty much; it's really good for general software dev stuff too20:36
andrebi tired last weekend to upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS ..via the online update and even by the alternate disk.. and both ways it failed... how can i clean my apt-get so i will be able to install programs.. cuz right now any time i try to install anything via apt get it keeps asaking me for teh cd20:36
ActionParsniprstrt: try:  sudo update-grub20:36
takyon29#wine seems to be an invite only channel20:36
crundar_Cyberspaceloa: so I didn't think, unless i set the default umask for the other users, that it would work. but maybe. tl;dr. no, not yet.20:36
guntbert_crundar_: not sure if you got my suggestion of using the sticky bit on the directoy20:36
jrib!wine | takyon2920:36
ditoai really like how unity works, a lot nicer than using windows 820:36
ubottutakyon29: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu20:36
gordonjcpandreb: try editing /etc/apt/sources.list and removing all the lines that reference the CD?20:37
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Cyberspaceloacrundar_ can you describe exactly what you're trying to do? A shared folder, correct?20:37
gordonjcpditoa: probably best to take the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic20:37
ActionParsnipandreb: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list     comment out the top 3 lines which reference the CD, save the new file, close get and run:  sudo apt-get update20:37
rstrtActionParsnip; Once I update it, how can I verify that there it does actually see windows?20:37
ditoagordonjcp, ok20:37
crundar_Cyberspaceloa: yeah. like a shared media drive. I want everyone in the group to be able to drop off movies and stuff, but not delete anyone elses20:37
crundar_I've got the room20:37
ActionParsniprstrt: you will see Windows in the output of the command if it's picked up20:38
andrebk20:38
rstrtIt didn't pick up the windows install20:38
Cyberspaceloacrundar_ what I would do is give each user a single folder in which they could write20:38
TJ-crundar_: You just need to set the sticky bit on the parent directory "chmod +t </some/dir>"20:38
Cyberspaceloaalso, give global r_x access to every folder20:38
TJ-crundar_: That ensures that only the *owner* can do deletions20:39
Cyberspaceloaeveryone can read anyone's folder, but they can only write to their own20:39
andrebthanks20:39
rstrtIs there a way to manually specify the drive in the Grub loader menu?20:39
crundar_ah. awesome.20:39
rstrtI feel pretty stupid that I'm having this much trouble lol20:39
crundar_well thanks for that, and maybe I'll do different dirs, and give group read access there for all of them20:40
crundar_thanks20:40
TJ-rstrt: Which partition on /dev/sdb is Windows installed in?20:40
rstrt/dev/sda120:41
rstrtwait no20:41
rstrt/dev/sdb120:41
TJ-rstrt: What does this report? "sudo blkid /dev/sdb1"20:41
ActionParsniprstrt: gksudo gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom      and use this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/110698/add-windows-to-my-boot-menu20:41
rstrt@TJ- /dev/sdb1: UUID="1EAC253DAC251137" TYPE="ntfs"20:42
ActionParsniprstrt: you'll need to change:  set root=(hd0,2)   to set root=(hd1,0)   as it is on sdb120:42
LennyKittywhats the restricted drivers application called?20:42
TJ-rstrt: That's good. See if it can be detected: "sudo os-prober"20:42
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TJ-LennyKitty: jockey  I think you mean?20:42
LennyKittyyes ty TJ-20:43
rstrtTJ- That command does not seem to output anything.20:43
TJ-rstrt: ahh, yes, silly me :p20:44
rstrtAlright, I'm going to try that. Thanks for your help guys20:47
pawsi want to find a file that in the file contains a specific word20:48
pawsfor example i am looking up a .php file with a word 'mainpage' how can i find that file20:48
TJ-paws: "grep 'word' /path/to/dir/*.php"20:48
TJ-paws: if you want to search sub-directories do, use the "-r" option: "grep -r 'word' /path/to/dir/*.php"20:49
TJ-paws: and if you want to know which line it is one, add the "-n" option20:49
pawsok thanx a lot TJ-20:50
cameron__just makin sure im in the right spot. this is for ubuntu help right?  not tryin to be in the ubuntu server help20:51
wtazwtaz20:51
wtazexit20:51
cameron__-list20:51
cameron__bleh  its been so long since ive been on an irc server..i forget the commands /facepalm20:52
gerbilcabbagehaiany guide I can look up to create .sh files? I want to run a series of commands on my ubuntu server20:52
black_I have a ProBox 4 bay external housing, ubuntu 12.04 wont show the drives, all the drive does is spool, wind down, repeat any thoughts?20:53
gerbilcabbagehai!.sh20:53
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal20:53
TJ-black_: What kind of interface is it on?20:54
black_USB and eSATA20:55
rtconneris there any way to set a default owner of new files. like a user named joe uploads a file, but the owner would be www-data by default?20:55
TJ-black_: but which are you using to connect it to the PC?20:55
black_USB20:55
black_eSATA card isnt picked up20:56
zykotick9gerbilcabbagehai: i'd recommend using bash instead (unless you want the scripts to be portable)20:56
gerbilcabbagehaizykotick9: <curious> can you explain why?20:56
TJ-black_: OK, then usb_storage should see it. If you use eSata, you'll need to ensure the acpiphp (ACPI PCI Hot-Plug) driver is loaded first20:56
zykotick9gerbilcabbagehai: bash is easier/more powerful/better gnu/linux supported20:56
gerbilcabbagehai!bash20:57
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal20:57
TJ-black_: I have external SATAs too; I've added "acpiphp" to the "/etc/modules" file to ensure the drives are detected when they're connected20:57
zykotick9gerbilcabbagehai: using sh is more limited... perhaps a better reply.20:57
TJ-black_: to load the module manually "sudo modprobe acpiphp" and *then* connect the drive bay20:58
gerbilcabbagehaizykotick9: case in point? http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_lts0010.php20:59
Chris123hey guys, I just installed ubuntu and cant find my wlan network, I installed drivers for my wlan-usb stick using ndiswrapper and the windows wireless driver software sees that the stick is plugged in but I cant find my network21:00
Chris123can anybody help me please?21:00
zykotick9gerbilcabbagehai: not sure what you mean by your link?  for 90+% sh and bash will be identical.21:00
zykotick9gerbilcabbagehai: terminal != shell21:01
ActionParsnipChris123: which wifi chip?21:01
gerbilcabbagehaizykotick9: I was agreeing with you after "maning" up on bash and sh. That link said bash is "better" :)21:01
zmaI've faced a situation after running Grub Customizer that my boot menu has 48 entries. Even running update-grub2 doesn't fix it. I don't have so many kernel versions. How to restore old menu without backup?21:01
Chris123It?s a Fritz stick21:02
ActionParsnipzma: uninstall the old kernels21:02
zmaActionParsnip: I don't have so many old kernels21:02
ActionParsnipChris123: no, we need the chip, the thing inside. Intel? Atheros? Broadcom?21:02
ActionParsnipzma: dpkg -l | grep linux-image    will show the installed kernels21:02
deadmundActionParsnip: :)21:03
Chris123ActionParsnip: where can I get information about it? (note: I?m on windows atm)21:03
zmaActionParsnip: I have couple of different Ubuntu versions installed. For example partition sda11 has just freshly made install and I have never logged in. Still Grub menu shows 9 entries for it.21:03
ActionParsnipChris123: you can use:   sudo lshw -C network; lsusb   in Ubuntu. You have reached for ndiswrapper when it may not be needed in any way.21:03
Basiczma the easiest way to uninstall all of those kernels is a tool called Ubuntu-tweak21:04
ActionParsnipzma: let me search21:04
zmaBasic: Does pristine 10.04.4 install give you 4 different kernels before first log in?21:04
Chris123ActionParsnip: On the ubuntu wiki it says that ndiswrapper is the only way21:04
* zykotick9 believe's zma issue is not NUMBER of kenrnels but due to "Grub Customizer" (whatever that is)21:04
PatrickCok, truexfan81, you there?21:04
PatrickCneed some help21:04
ActionParsnipzykotick9: likely21:04
PatrickCstupid minimistalic install is borked it seems21:05
leighdoes ubuntu allow you to update to the new version without removal and restall of the whole?21:05
ActionParsnipChris123: find out the chip, or the 8 character hex id of the device and we can search21:05
Basiczma i don't know i never use pristine21:05
Chris123ActionParsnip: Texas Instruments TNETW1450 is the chip21:05
PatrickCor someone who has minimalistic install experience21:05
PatrickCit won't let me boot, says i need to switch to the kernel21:05
ActionParsnipleigh: yes, you can upgrade LTS to LTS21:05
zykotick9leigh: yes, but i'd recommend "fresh" installs myself.21:05
leighthanks to both21:06
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PatrickCjust finished a minimalistic install, and now i can't get it t finish booting21:06
PatrickCi'm at grub21:06
Basiczma most linux systems give you two kenels before log in21:06
PatrickCnot sure how to get it to boot the kernel21:06
ActionParsnipChris123: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/acx100/index.php?title=ACX21:07
_XMENDEShow i give acess root to a folder? or a file ?21:07
gerbilcabbagehaiwhere do i find the windows configurator?21:07
gerbilcabbagehaiin gui21:07
ActionParsnipChris123: http://wiki.debian.org/acx21:07
zmaBasic: Right now I'm on sda10 running 12.04. It has 4 kernels installed, and GRUB2 menu shows 8 entries21:07
tuxmatthey all21:08
improovizatorhey21:08
Chris123ActionParsnip: thank you, I will read through it and try it, if it doesnt work ill come back21:08
ActionParsnipChris123: if you boot to ubuntu and run:  sudo modprobe ndiswrapper    does it load ok and work?21:08
black_tj- FATAL: Error inserting acpiphp (/lib/modules/3.5.0-10-generic/kernel/drivers/pci/hotplug/acpiphp.ko): No such device21:08
_XMENDESi using ubuntu 10.10 .. trying acess a .so file with a reader card. but "permission denied" message appears21:08
ActionParsnipblack_: thats a 3rd party kernel, not supported here21:09
zykotick9!10.10 | _XMENDES21:09
ubottu_XMENDES: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 10th, 2012, see http://ubottu.com/y/maverick for details.21:09
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: maverick is EOL, not supported and no more updates21:09
black_ where do i get it?21:09
tuxmattim running pear linux at the moment21:09
_XMENDESi know.. this station is old21:09
Chris123ActionParsnip: I will switch to ubuntu and try it right now!21:09
zykotick9_XMENDES: if you want support here, update or fresh install to a supported version21:09
_XMENDESdont support any newer21:09
tuxmattany one having problems w=:)21:09
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: have you tried Xubuntu 12.04?21:10
zykotick9_XMENDES: using an EOL release is bad karma, and thus not supported here.21:10
_XMENDESmy station is older.. sorry about that.21:10
Basic zma synaptic package manager should show all kernels on remove the earliest  kernels versions21:10
_XMENDESaction .. yes.. tried for 3 months..21:10
improovizatorHow connection in Russian IRC canal?21:10
TJ-black_: You're running 3.5 kernel?21:10
ActionParsniptuxmatt: pear linux isn't supported here, this is Ubuntu support21:10
ActionParsnip!ru  | improovizator21:10
ubottuimproovizator: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.21:10
_XMENDESbut the V card.. dont works :)21:10
tuxmattyea i know man but i came to help people with ubuntu21:10
black_Linux blackness 3.5.0-10-generic #10-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 13 16:23:53 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux21:10
ActionParsnipblack_: if you are running  a 3rd party kernel you will need to contact the kernel packager21:10
zykotick9!nomodeset | _XMENDES: did you try this?21:10
ubottu_XMENDES: did you try this?: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter21:10
_XMENDESmy station only works with 10.10 .. (nvidia 96 running)21:11
ActionParsniptuxmatt: thats fine, and very welcomed :)21:11
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: its a dead release, the OS will run but there are zero updates and zero support in any of the ubuntu channels21:11
_XMENDESbut its not problem now.. my problem is a CCID card.21:11
zykotick9_XMENDES: oh, 96 driver.  that COULD be an issue.  best of luck.  you might want to consider another distro, if ubuntu doesn't work-out.  'cause using 10.10 is NOT a good idea.21:11
gerbilcabbagehaiWhere do I find the windows configurator on 12.04 live cd?21:11
tuxmattyea i did not come in here to ask ? about pear :)21:11
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: again, not supported21:11
PatrickCanyone on a minimalistic install?21:11
zmaBasic: I want my old kernel versions to stay there, but want any other duplicates to stay. I know I have several OS installed and the real number of menu entries should be around 15-16. But I have 48 after running Grub Customizer application.21:12
_XMENDESeheheheh21:12
ActionParsnipPatrickC: I use minimal install21:12
ki7rwi'm unable to change the language in 12.04 despite following instructions at http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/21:12
PatrickCActionParsnip: how do i get it to boot from the grub> command prompt?21:12
ActionParsnipzma: I suggest you contact the customiser app maker than21:12
PatrickCi've loaded the initrd and the kernel21:12
_XMENDESmy only problem now is the reader .. ccid reader for smartcards21:12
zykotick9PatrickC: you have a grub issue.21:12
zykotick9PatrickC: i'd recommend reinstalling grub from live media.21:12
PatrickCzykotick9: on a brand new install?21:12
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: your release isn't supported. I keep telling you21:13
Basiczma are you multi booting 15-16 Linux operating systems21:13
zmaActionParsnip: Well, maybe for reporting bug. I just want to know if there is some way to generate new GRUB2 menu from scratch, like first deleting something manually and then running update-grub2 command21:13
ActionParsnipBasic: some 3rd party thing has bothed the config21:13
tuxmattActionParsnip,  how long have you been in here21:13
zmaBasic: No, I have 5 Linuxes and one Windows21:13
_XMENDESlook the error log.21:13
_XMENDESjavax.persistence.PersistenceException: org.hibernate.exception.GenericJDBCException: could not get or update next value21:13
_XMENDESat org.hibernate.ejb.AbstractEntityManagerImpl.throwPersistenceException(AbstractEntityManagerImpl.java:630)21:13
_XMENDESat org.hibernate.ejb.AbstractEntityManagerImpl.merge(AbstractEntityManagerImpl.java:237)21:13
_XMENDESat br.gov.sp.fazenda.dsge.model.dao.DSGEBaseDAO.update(DSGEBaseDAO.java:78)21:13
_XMENDESat br.gov.sp.fazenda.dsen.model.business.PropriedadeBusiness.alterarPropriedade(PropriedadeBusiness.java:34)21:13
FloodBot1_XMENDES: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:13
PatrickC!nopaste21:13
ActionParsniptuxmatt: bit less than an hour21:13
ki7rwi want to change the interface to spanish but spanish is greyed out21:13
PatrickC!paste _XMENDES21:14
zykotick9zma: other then the "Grub Customizer" that i have 0 idea what it changed.  just running "sudo update-grub" does create a new file by default!21:14
gerbilcabbagehaiki7rw: something i can try to help you with?21:14
tuxmattActionParsnip,  was it this full when you come in here21:14
PatrickCugh...21:14
ActionParsnipzma: what were you using the customiser to achieve exactly?21:14
black_any other ideas TJ- ?21:14
ActionParsnipblack_: contact the kernel maintainer, or (easier) use the official kernel for Precise.21:14
_XMENDESfirst line on error log: javax.persistence.PersistenceException: org.hibernate.exception.GenericJDBCException: could not get or update next value21:14
ki7rwgerbilcabbageh: i'm unable to change the language in 12.04 despite following instructions at http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/21:14
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: you aren't supported here21:14
ki7rwi want to change the interface to spanish but spanish is greyed out21:14
TJ-black_: you have some kind of custom kernel and configuration that is breaking expected behaviour21:15
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: its like calling microsoft support and asking for help with Windows 9621:15
gerbilcabbagehaiki7rw: what version ubuntu have you?21:15
ki7rw12.0421:15
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: they won't support you21:15
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zykotick9!es | ki7rw: personally, i'd ask here.21:15
ubottuki7rw: personally, i'd ask here.: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:15
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: your release is DEAD21:15
zmazykotick9: Grub Customizer ended up modifying /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober_proxy file. update-grub2 works based on that file, so it's not creating from scratch but based on modified conf files.21:15
zykotick9zma: right.  so i can't help you.  good luck.21:15
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tuxmattActionParsnip, yea but we shoud hep people with diff linux he may run a diff linux kernerl but we are still family here21:15
ki7rwubottu: i don't speak spanish - my wife does though21:16
ubottuki7rw: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:16
ActionParsniptuxmatt: we can only support the packages from the repos here21:16
ki7rwoops21:16
HeadlessZombiei think ubuntu-offtopic would be more appropriate21:16
_XMENDES10.10 is better for me man.. give a chance.. pls21:16
tuxmattActionParsnip,  yea i know but if someone is having a software problem they shoud get support21:16
zmaActionParsnip: My original use case was just to try Grub Customizer to rename some entries. I wasn't careful for having backup of conf files or anything :(21:16
ki7rwHeadlessZombie: who are you talking to?21:16
HeadlessZombiesupport for older Ubuntu21:16
zykotick9tuxmatt: only repository software is supported in #ubuntu channel.21:16
black_brb reboot21:17
ActionParsnipzma: I don't have /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober_proxy    have you tried moving it to $HOME to see if the isuue goes?21:17
usr13tuxmatt: Help for an EOL system is to upgrade.21:17
ki7rw12.04 is the latest isn't it?21:17
black_i have the default kernal...i found a guide im try real fast21:17
ActionParsnipki7rw: latest stable, yes21:17
tuxmattzykotick9,  like a software problem becouse ubuntu is bassed of debian and linuxmint is based off debian why cant we help people in that cal21:18
ActionParsnip!ops | _XMENDES I told you, you wouldn't listen21:18
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gerbilcabbagehaiki7rw: for now it is yes :)21:18
zykotick9ActionParsnip: re:zma (assuming an ubuntu package) i'd think purging "grub customizer" COULD/MIGHT do a world of good?21:18
ActionParsnipzykotick9: likely, not sure what file sit puts where21:18
rob_pki7rw: If it's greyed out, that probably means you need to install that language pack.21:18
ki7rwrob_p: a bunch of packages were installed for spanish21:19
zykotick9ActionParsnip: i'd believe zma, that G-C modifies the scripts grub2 uses to "update-grub"... world of hurt IMO21:19
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gerbilcabbagehaiki7rw: have you moved the spanish to the top of the list? or do you want to do something else?21:19
ki7rwgerbilcabbagehai: it's greyed out so i can't do that21:19
rob_pki7rw: System Settings --> Language Support --> Install/Remove Languages21:20
tuxmattany one need help21:20
rob_pki7rw: After that, select the language you want to install...21:21
ki7rwrob_p: already did that21:21
zykotick9tuxmatt: you don't have to ask.  just wait for an issue you are interested in to be asked by someone.21:21
ki7rwlanguage is still greyed out21:21
NcAhey all,21:22
gerbilcabbagehaiki7rw: you have to click and drag it to the top21:22
NcAany reccommendations for a parallel ssh client on Ubuntu?21:22
NcAneed to run commands on 5+ servers simultaneously21:23
gerbilcabbagehaiki7rw:  you can do so, even if it is greyed out21:23
Chris123ActionParsnip: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper gives me nothing, in the Windows Wireless Drivers GUI however it says that the hardware is plugged in and ready to use21:23
MonkeyDustNcA  better ask in #ubuntu-server21:23
NcAMonkeyDust: thx, I'll give it a shot21:23
gerbilcabbagehaiki7rw: working for you?21:24
ActionParsnipChris123: read the guides. Seems to have a native driver21:24
Basicki7rw there a tool called bleach bit will clear all that spanish for you21:25
Chris123ActionParsnip: Alright I will read it now21:25
rob_pki7rw: Strange... perhaps you need to refresh your session (logout/login)... dunno...21:25
ActionParsnipki7rw: try localepurge too21:25
HazemShaf3yHello.21:26
gerbilcabbagehaiits greyed out on mine too, if you only click on it, it will stay grey. if you move it to the top of the list above english it will become black (active)21:27
gerbilcabbagehaiki7rw: let me know if this works for you.21:28
HazemShaf3yWHo do I talk to about an issue?21:28
gerbilcabbagehaijust ask HazemShaf3y21:28
black_welp that failed21:28
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HazemShaf3yOkay. I've just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS about an hour ago, I'm dual booting along with Windows 7 64 bit. I'm using HP DV6 Laptop, which has the AMD Catalyst Switchable Graphics thing, so everytime I use Ubuntu, it automatically chooses the High Graphics card, which drains battery in minutes. Is there anyway I could set Ubuntu to use only low graphics card, since I won't need the High Graphics card mode for gaming on Ubuntu.21:29
_XMENDEShow i install sun java??21:31
_XMENDESnot oracle java.21:31
lnxslck_XMENDES, OPENJDK ?21:31
gerbilcabbagehai_XMENDES: oracle bought sun21:31
_XMENDESsun java web starts21:31
_XMENDESi search on web.. this program only use sun java.21:32
_XMENDESnot oracle21:32
gerbilcabbagehaiarchive?21:32
_XMENDESSun JAva (tm) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture dependet files)21:33
_XMENDEShow install?21:33
gerbilcabbagehai_XMENDES: java = java. Oracle bought up Sun. Unless you are wanting an earlier version of java, just use oracles.21:33
L3topOracle bought sun java _XMENDES. Oracle java IS Sun java.21:34
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: in Maverick you won't be able to install much21:35
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: nor is your release supported here21:35
leaftwigThank you please how do I make out which driver runs my wifi?21:36
_XMENDESi tryng make works a program of fiscal notes...21:36
_XMENDESi dont wanna use windows anymore..21:36
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: your release is EOL, so is offtopic. What part of this are you not getting?21:36
_XMENDESeol?21:37
ActionParsnip!eol | _XMENDES21:37
ubottu_XMENDES: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades21:37
_XMENDESwhats eol man?21:37
_XMENDEStks.. will search there..21:38
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: maverick is dead, literally zero support anywhere, anytime21:38
patr|ckwhat am i missing (with ubuntu-restricted-extras being installed) when some *.avi files wont play?21:38
gerbilcabbagehai_XMENDES: is there any reason why you arent upgrading to 12.04?21:38
melkorhow do I disable 'tap to click' on the touch pad?21:39
_XMENDESaction.. i told you man... i tried 12.04 for 3 months.. my old station not work with this..21:39
ActionParsnipmelkor: mouse settings maybe21:39
melkorActionParsnip: no options there for the touchpad.21:39
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: doesnt make maverick supported21:39
_XMENDESi use on this pc .. a vcard nvidia mx440021:39
_XMENDESehhehehe21:39
gerbilcabbagehai_XMENDES: is there some help we can give you to make 12.04 work for you?21:39
Chris123ActionParsnip: I wrote you a pm because I ran into trouble, trying to follow the manual you gave me.21:40
_XMENDESi tried install nvidia card on 12.0421:40
ActionParsnipmelkor: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc     please21:40
_XMENDESbut is not supported too21:40
L3top1004 still has support for now _XMENDES21:40
ActionParsnipChris123: i don't support in PM21:40
gerbilcabbagehai_XMENDES: so it's a graphical issue that is stopping you from upgrading?21:40
_XMENDESyé.21:40
Chris123ActionParsnip: Ok I will copy it here wait a second21:40
_XMENDES:D21:41
melkorActionParsnip: No LSB modules are available.21:41
Chris123ActionParsnip: Because I dont have an internet connection on ubuntu I downloaded the dkms and git packages in order to install them on ubuntu. However Im unsure how to deal with steps 2 and 3 under "Driver" from the link you gave me (http://wiki.debian.org/acx). I guess I need an internet connection to do this but I dont have an ethernet cable or the like.21:41
gerbilcabbagehai_XMENDES: Do you know why it isn't working? you said you used it for 3 months. what changed?21:41
_XMENDESi use with Vcard off..21:42
_XMENDEScompiz not works ..21:42
gerbilcabbagehaiwhat card do you want to have?21:42
usr13_XMENDES: So don't use compiz21:42
_XMENDESbut my problem now .. is with a java program... not with the OS21:43
ActionParsnipmelkor: grep -i code /etc/lsb-release      what is output please?21:43
ClientAliveI wonder if anyone has had success running osx as a vm on ubuntu, on a pc, using vmware... ? pm me or something.21:43
gerbilcabbagehai_XMENDES: it is indeed with the os. and with the release. if you don't upgrade you will struggle to get help AND struggle to get things installed.21:43
ActionParsnipClientAlive: i'd ask in #vbox21:43
gerbilcabbagehai_XMENDES: I encourage you to find a way to upgrade, or change something that you are doing so that it works for you21:44
melkorDISTRIB_CODENAME=precise21:44
melkorActionParsnip:21:44
ActionParsnipmelkor: http://askubuntu.com/questions/161420/disabling-one-finger-tap-to-click-but-keep-two-finger-tap-ubuntu-12-0421:44
usr13_XMENDES: See:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases21:44
ActionParsnipmelkor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145705321:44
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ClientAliveActionParsnip: I'll give it a shot. I use vmware tho, so maybe #vmware - idk21:45
gerbilcabbagehai_XMENDES: is there something with the process of changing thinking so that you can upgrade that i could help you with?21:45
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_XMENDESim trying some new here.. wait ;)21:46
xibalbahow do i specify a single threaded app run on a specific processor?21:46
ActionParsnipClientAlive: sure21:46
gerbilcabbagehai_XMENDES: maybe there is an alternative to what you are trying to achieve? A different tool for the same result e.g. if compiz doesn't work for you, learn to do without or use a different tool. :)21:47
usr13_XMENDES: If you look at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases  you see that you have some choices.  10.04, 11.10 & 12.0421:47
Chris123ActionParsnip: Any advice?21:47
xibalbanevermind it loaded it to the 2nd proc automatically21:47
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: try Lubuntu 12.04 and I bet you are fine21:47
_XMENDESlook.. ive trying install this..21:47
_XMENDESBus 002 Device 003: ID 072f:90cc Advanced Card Systems, Ltd ACR38 SmartCard Read21:47
ActionParsnipChris123: there is a native driver, those pages are all I know21:47
_XMENDESthat is my problem :(21:48
ActionParsnip_XMENDES: so is running maverick which moots it21:48
usr13_XMENDES: I would suggest trying the Alternate CD (12.04)21:48
jribxibalba: use taskset21:48
gerbilcabbagehai_XMENDES: in the future to help you get along with this community and get the support you need, try to only install the LTS versions of Ubuntu. In this case 10.04, 11.04, or 12.04.21:48
ActionParsnipgerbilcabbagehai: 11.04 isnt LTS21:48
gerbilcabbagehaisorry my mistake21:49
_XMENDESits all configured guys. :(21:49
* ActionParsnip will be glad when Natty dies off21:49
usr13gerbilcabbagehai: LTS is a 2 year cycle.21:49
melkorxinput doesn't seem to find a touchpad21:49
Chris123ActionParsnip: By native driver do you mean the linux driver for the stick? Because this doesnt work anymore.21:49
morganhow do I do metacity --replace and then compiz --replace without breaking stuff D:21:50
ActionParsnipChris123: its a native driver for the chip inside the stick, but yes21:50
black_i dont get it, i cant get this probox to work on linux.21:51
gerbilcabbagehai_XMENDES: this is as far as I will help you. If you are willing to upgrade or change version, then we can help you further.21:51
melkorIs there a way to find out what hardware my computer thinks the touchpad is?21:51
_XMENDESok... u ready sad this :)21:51
gerbilcabbagehai_XMENDES: Yeap. :)21:52
_XMENDESreebot.. se ya21:53
ActionParsnipfinally21:54
* gerbilcabbagehai gives parsnip a carrot21:55
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melkorI guess Ill work on it later, it appears that xinput isn't going to cut it, the prop isn't there.21:56
melkorsynclient says no driver loaded so I don't think I have a driver for this touchpad and it is just treated as a mouse.21:57
gerbilcabbagehaimy server room is cold. how do i get ssh working on this live cd (laptop) to my server (deks box) so i can go to a warmer room?21:58
gerbilcabbagehai*desk box21:58
black_install openssh22:00
ActionParsnipgerbilcabbagehai: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install openssh-server22:02
gerbilcabbagehaii probably already have it on the server. installed with all options enabled. Now I just need to configure and remember how to log in22:02
morganHello, what is the correcty way to do metacity --replace, then run my playonlinux program, then when done, do compiz --replace ? everything seems to crash and I can't do compiz --replace22:03
ActionParsnipgerbilcabbagehai: ssh username@server22:03
ActionParsnipmorgan: I've used a script for that22:03
gerbilcabbagehaijust generated a public key. continuing.22:04
ActionParsnipgerbilcabbagehai: if its for the liveCD, using a key is a tad excessive don't you think?22:05
black_weird, in 10.04 probox 4 bay encosure works fine, 12.04 is dead22:05
gerbilcabbagehaiActionParsnip: sorry for the confusion, the server is a box, permanent installation. My laptop is the livecd and will be logging INTO my server via ssh.22:06
ActionParsnipblack_: are there any bugs reported?22:06
black_none i can find22:06
ActionParsnipgerbilcabbagehai: ahhh I see22:06
morgani guess the problem I'm having is the terminal is staying attached to the process??? and I'm not exiting the terminal correctly22:06
ActionParsnipblack_: is it ok with other distos like Suse / Mandriva / Puppy?22:07
black_i wouldnt waste a CD on Suse, mandrake or puppy22:07
black_i dont even know if ubuntu 12.04 supports my eSATA cord.22:08
black_card*22:08
gerbilcabbagehaiActionParsnip: Ahaha! I'm amazing. I just hacked myself...oh wait.22:09
imadamHello folks, for some reason ubuntu 12.04 wont detect my screen, is this an issue with my video card?22:09
ActionParsnipblack_: then use USB....no wastage. Suprised you use CDs still22:09
gerbilcabbagehaiimadam: what video card?22:10
ActionParsnipimadam: which video chip?22:10
zykotick9black_: fyi, my esata cable is NOT hot pluggable - meaning i have to reboot for it to appear (fyi it usually appears as sda, in my case).  A FEW motherboards support eSATA hotplugging, i get the impression most do not :(  best of luck.22:10
imadamCan't find the full name as I can't boot the system, although its a nvidia.22:10
rhizmoeif i have a symlink to a directory in my home directory, ~/foo -> /tmp/foo say, when I cd to ~/foo I'd like the path to be /tmp/foo rather than ~/foo, is there a way to cd into the destination of the symlink rather than pwd showing the symlink itself.22:11
black_my motherboard dont support prot multiplying22:11
zykotick9!nomodeset | imadam are you currently using this?22:11
ubottuimadam are you currently using this?: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter22:11
black_so i cant use eSATA22:11
imadamany advice, was working like normal for a few days now my screen just wont detect.22:11
ActionParsnipimadam: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=122:11
ActionParsnipimadam: did you install the nvidia proprietary driver?22:12
zykotick9imadam: nomodeset only applies for nvidia (and possibly ati) cards.22:12
imadamActionParsnip nope I didn't,22:12
imadamActionParsnip Just can't boot now, nothing will load on my screen.22:12
morganmmmm nope that wasn't it lol22:12
ActionParsnipimadam: try the nouveau.blacklist=1 option22:12
ActionParsnipimadam: hold SHIFT at boot is a start22:13
black_ive even tried rebooting with USB and eSATA, still nothing22:13
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zykotick9ActionParsnip: from a livecd?  isn't it press a key at the first opportunity?22:13
imadamActionParsnip would it work if I just do a fresh install via cd then insall the driver?22:13
ActionParsnipzykotick9: i think both fly, not sure tbh22:13
zykotick9imadam: oh is it installed already?22:14
ActionParsnipimadam: sure but you already have the install. If you boot to root recovery mode you can just run:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current      and it will install22:14
zykotick9imadam: if it's installed, use ActionParsnip "shift" at boot suggestion to edit grub (to test - it's only 1 time if you edit it that way)22:14
imadamzykotick9 ActionParsnip: Thanks guys, I believe I access my boot menu via DEL tho.22:15
imadamWill try this suggestion. Was just odd it stopped working.22:15
zykotick9imadam: it's not BIOS, but GRUB we want!22:15
imadamOh got you!22:15
imadamWill try now and let you know how I get on. Thanks!22:16
zykotick9imadam: and it's HOLD shift after BIOS22:16
black_well 12.04 dont support my probox 4-bay22:16
imadamzykotick9 I'm not even getting BIOS at boot.22:16
ki7rwgerbilcabbagehai: i was able to move it to the top, apply systemwide, loged out/in but it didn't take22:16
zykotick9imadam: in that case, it's not an #ubuntu issue.  just sayin'22:16
imadamWas thinking that, it may be an issue with my videocard.22:17
gerbilcabbagehaiki7rw: do you have admin privileges?22:17
ki7rwyes22:17
morganwhat causes people to turn blue on youtube videos in chromium? wtf22:17
zykotick9imadam: if you computer isn't POSTING perhaps ##hardware could help?22:17
gerbilcabbagehaiki7rw:   so you CAN change the language but it wont stay changed?22:18
imadamI'm going to try replacing my videocard with the one on my other system and see if that does the job. Wish me luck!22:18
gerbilcabbagehaiimadam: see you soon :)22:18
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Guest50040hey guys.. i get it..22:18
imadamThanks guys.22:18
Guest50040got it.22:18
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zykotick9ki7rw: aren't you the spanish issue?  why not ask in !ubuntu-es i'm sure they're more familiar with the process then #ubuntu.  or is the language not for you?22:19
gerbilcabbagehai_XMENDES: got what good sir?22:19
_XMENDESgot it. my problem was a database permission problem22:19
ki7rwgerbilcabbagehai: that's correct22:19
gerbilcabbagehaizykotick9: he can change the language but it wont stay changed. any ideas?22:20
zykotick9ki7rw: "wife does" ignore me.22:20
ki7rwzykotick9: i don't speak spanish22:20
_XMENDESa half our late i was here.. and now.. i got resolv my problem in ubuntu 10.10 eheheheheh22:20
zykotick9gerbilcabbagehai: no idea.22:20
ki7rwwell, i speak some spanish22:20
gerbilcabbagehaiki7rw: what profile are you changing the language under?22:20
ki7rwthe wife's account22:21
gerbilcabbagehaiki7rw: does she have admin privileges?22:21
_XMENDESki7rw ... talk spanish with me.. and i translate if u want22:21
zykotick9gerbilcabbagehai: i doubt sudo would/should matter.22:21
ki7rwgerbilcabbagehai: she's sudo22:21
zykotick9gerbilcabbagehai: s/sudo/sudo access22:21
bkerensa!offtopic | _XMENDES22:22
ubottu_XMENDES: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:22
gerbilcabbagehaii would physically try it myself, but i dont want to lose this livesession sorry22:22
black_why would probox external be supported on 10.10 but not on 12.0422:22
gerbilcabbagehaiblack_: something removed from the repo maybe?22:23
zykotick9ki7rw: the problem (as i see it).  possibly, you could change the entire system to spanish (which i don't think you want), or you need the setting to be user specific AND stay through restart ;)  best of luck man.22:23
smjhow can I open a remote desktop via SSH in to a window?22:24
gerbilcabbagehaismj: ssh name@server22:24
smjgerbilcabbagehai: I mean X11 desktop in a window22:25
gerbilcabbagehaithen start x I would think. i know how to do the terminal ssh, but the x11 is a new one for me22:25
smjremote Xfce4, in a window.22:25
ki7rwzykotick9: i had her seesion set up for spanish when i had mandriva installed but since mandriva doesn't have adequate support i changed all my pc's to ubuntu - anyway, it should have been a "slam-dunk" to set her up on ubuntu22:25
zykotick9gerbilcabbagehai: you don't run startx with ssh X forwarding!22:25
gerbilcabbagehaisee?22:26
gerbilcabbagehai:D22:26
zykotick9ki7rw: sorry man, i've NEVER had to change my language from english (aka C) ;)22:26
ActionParsnipsmj: what do you intend to do on the remote system?22:27
IronsightIf you want a remote x11 desktop over the network, check out vnc22:27
ki7rwok, i'll keep "hacking" away until i get it working or break stuff22:27
smjActionParsnip: nothing really, I'm just exploring22:28
ActionParsnipsmj: gotcha, nothing bad there22:28
ActionParsnip!vnc | smj22:29
ubottusmj: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX22:29
smjdoes that require extra server software on the server-side?22:29
zykotick9smj: fyi you need to use "ssh -X user@server" to use X forwarding, but that allows you to open a single application, not the entire destktop.  fyi, you can run/tunnel vnc over ssh somehow (don't ask me, i've never done it - remote desktop makes no sense to me, with Xforwarding being a possibility - YES sometime a gui app is handy remotely ;)22:29
visitor000i want to add some startup parameter to it to run forever22:30
zykotick9smj: also you ssh server must have X-forwarding enabled for above to work!22:30
visitor000the /etc/init.d/mysqld script is a linkt o /lib/init/upstart-job22:31
smjI have X-forwarding enabled, but I don't like the way it mixes with the local desktop environmetn22:31
visitor000wher is the actual script? i want to add some startup parameters; namely set LD_PRELOAD=22:31
zykotick9visitor000: good luck - you're going to need it.  hope you find an answer/solution.22:31
ActionParsnipsmj: what's fun is running audio apps via ssh -X and then playing sound. The audio comes out of the server but the playback is controlled on the client22:32
visitor000zykotick9: i'm really used with debian so presumed it'd be there, that's why :)22:32
visitor000rykotick9: can you please tell in what script the actual mysqld start sequence is?22:32
zykotick9ActionParsnip: if anyone was ever sitting at your computer, imagine the fun of ssh+espeak ;)22:32
gerbilcabbagehaizykotick9: "Oi! YOU! noooo!"22:33
gerbilcabbagehaizykotick9: or "I don't think so Dave."22:33
zykotick9gerbilcabbagehai: "I don't think so Dave." awesome-sauce!22:34
gerbilcabbagehai!awesome-sauce22:34
visitor000zykotick9: suggestion? :)22:35
zykotick9gerbilcabbagehai: sorry, if you're unfamiliar - it means "nice/good/excellent"22:35
zykotick9visitor000: nope... good luck.22:35
gerbilcabbagehaizykotick9: I know. I was just curious if ubottu knew that. it seems she doesn't22:35
zykotick9gerbilcabbagehai: "she" nice!22:36
gerbilcabbagehai"she" who must be obeyed. Cough. sorry for offtopic.22:36
zykotick9!msgthebot > gerbilcabbagehai22:36
ubottugerbilcabbagehai, please see my private message22:36
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gerbilcabbagehaiif im logged in via ssh, it is as if I were at the keyboard correct?22:39
LarsNI'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but is there a default keyboard shortcut to switch between the four virtual desktops in Unity?  And, where would I view the default shortcuts &/or make changes to them?22:40
LarsNwhich I guess is a series of potentially dumb questions.22:40
AcE_punKwho can advice me a little about partition sizes I am gonna install over entire HDD?22:41
gerbilcabbagehaiLarsN: the only dumb question is one that is not asked.22:41
AcE_punK anybody up to Partitioning?22:41
zykotick9!anyone | AcE_punK22:41
ubottuAcE_punK: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.22:41
LarsNgerbilcabbagehai: :)  that's right up there with my belief "You don't get, if you don't ask"22:41
zykotick9AcE_punK: don't reply to me!  i'm not ;)22:42
AcE_punK zykotick9 : I'm not your type moron22:42
dcs_i'm migrating to a new machine and i want to use the dd function via network. can this be done while using my old machine without disrupting anything as i work?22:42
zykotick9AcE_punK: "moron" really?22:43
gerbilcabbagehaiAcE_punK: nice way to ask for help...lol22:43
LarsNAcE_punK: I find the defaults to be acceptable for how I use the system.  ~ 50g for / 4-16g swap and the rest to /home22:43
gerbilcabbagehaiLarsN: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-ubuntu-unity-keyboard-shortcuts.html22:43
LarsNAcE_punK: your requirements might require a different layout of course.22:43
LarsNgerbilcabbagehai: many thanks22:43
HeadlessZombiedcs_ no22:43
LarsNgerbilcabbagehai: this is my first time actually attempting to use Unity for more than a way to replace it. :)22:44
gerbilcabbagehaiLarsN: also this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts22:44
LarsNperfet22:44
LarsNperfect..22:44
dcs_HeadlessZombie: thanks for the short and to-the-point answer22:44
odinsban1Odd the alps touchpad bug seems to have been taken care of, but now it doesn't work. Maybe I have too new of a kernel?22:44
AcE_punKI'm gonna install a system with these paritions: /boot, /, /var, /tmp, /usr. But cannot consider sizes..I have 97 G of free space. thanks22:44
gerbilcabbagehaiAcE_punK: for what reasons are you partitioning?22:46
NathandimHave you considered to let them all in one place?22:46
AcE_punKand /swap of course, but swap and usr is not important22:46
LarsNAcE_punK: well, it strongly depends on what you're doing to do with the system.  if it's a database host you likely need a much larger /var than if its not.  /home is likely important if it's a desktop.  Kind of hard to answer without a complete picture.22:46
Nathandimugh new updates that want restart22:46
LarsNAcE_punK: my system has 32g / -- 8g swap -- 1g /boot -- and the rest of the 96gb SSD in /home22:48
LarsNit's a general use laptop :/22:48
AcE_punKI'll install KDM afterwards..so /usr is important and I'll leave the rest of free space to it. But the more important part is root, var and temporary storage partitions..and I think 512 K is enough for boot. swap can be satisfied with 4G i guess(core i5 ) ..what do you think?22:48
jack_ciao22:51
HeadlessZombieciaobella22:52
AcE_punKi heard giving boot more storage than it needs can be sluggish, moreover I've 23G /, 70 G /usr, 3.7 G /swap and 476M boot space in the current Quantal..I'm reinstalling system..I'll be using for mostly networking purposes and softwaer developing..so what do ya thnk?22:52
gypsy_bloodidk honestly..im still working on the basics lol22:54
AcE_punKI'm stucked in the partitioning menu..cannot decide :|22:55
gypsy_bloodare you dual booting?22:55
visitor000in mysql's default install on ubuntu, how do i add some startup parameters to mysqld??22:55
AcE_punKsth like it, I've 601G of NTFS partition22:56
HeadlessZombiehttp://content.hccfl.edu/pollock/aunix1/partitioning.htm22:57
gerbilcabbagehaivisitor000: does this help? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/mysqld_safe.1.html22:57
usr13AcE_punK: I think it is only important to have separate /home/   So, that would mean 3 partitions for Ubuntu, swap /home/ and /22:58
usr13AcE_punK: So you have 601G to use for Ubuntu?22:58
gerbilcabbagehaivisitor000: you'll want to change the version to your setup of course22:58
usr13AcE_punK: If that is correct, I would suggest, 8G swap, 20G /  and the rest for /home/22:59
AcE_punKusr13: Nah. it's an external storage. I can use 97G of HDD for installation.22:59
xibalba.23:00
usr13AcE_punK: Ok:  8G for swap, 10G /  and rest for /home/23:00
HeadlessZombiedepends on what you use the comp for. its very easy to exceed 20gb in "/"23:00
usr13AcE_punK: Ok:  8G for swap, 20G /  and rest for /home/23:00
usr13AcE_punK:    correction   ^^^^\23:00
visitor000gerbilcabbegehai: hm. is this really a recommended way of running mysql? for instance, how do i shut down mysql cleanly if having started it with mysql_safe?23:00
AcE_punKusr13: but if you have an experience in it, gimme advice in this layout: -boot, root, swap, var, tmp, usr(not important )23:01
gerbilcabbagehaivisitor000: i dont know that sorry23:01
HeadlessZombiei use lampp or xampp23:01
gerbilcabbagehaivisitor000: http://serverfault.com/questions/167497/restart-mysqld-with-a-command-line-parameter-on-ubuntu-10-04 ?23:01
HeadlessZombielampp = linux apache mysql php & perl23:01
usr13AcE_punK: It's up to you.  I have given my advise:  8G swap,  20G /  &  the rest for /home/23:02
AcE_punKusr13: it's for random users, give me some insight of yours of my layout, please23:03
usr13AcE_punK: If you really want to separate more, you can, but in my opinion, that's all you need to do.  There is good reason to have /home/ on a separate partition, but the rest is ok to be lumped together.23:03
usr13AcE_punK:  This is the way I always do it.23:03
usr13AcE_punK: and in that order.23:03
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AcE_punKusr13: how much should I give boot partition?23:04
AcE_punKusr13: I have 476M for now but i think it is useless..512 is OK, right?23:05
ThePendulum1Could anyone give me a hand setting up a connection over broadband using my phone?23:05
AcE_punKusr13: 512K23:05
usr13AcE_punK: Ok.  Alternative:  8G swap, 200M boot, 20G /   & the rest for /home/23:06
HSakaHello, I'm haveing problem with getting stuck at partion, or when the installer starts. It's been stuck there for few hours.23:07
usr13AcE_punK: How's that?23:07
AcE_punKusr13: giving double size of Random access memory is no more recommended in core i series processors, I jave i5..and 4G of RAm..is 4G OK for swap space?23:08
usr13AcE_punK: Ok.  Alternative:  4G swap, 200M boot, 20G /   & the rest for /home/23:08
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AcE_punKusr13: i mean i can give 8 G swap, but why would I waste it?..and why 200 M of boot? does it affect anything else than booting?23:09
usr13AcE_punK: It's up to you.  (But I like to give extra space.  for instance, 100M is enough for boot, I suggest 200M, 4M is enough for swap, I recommend 8M)23:10
usr13AcE_punK: The thing you really want is to leave as much as possible for /home/23:10
nerghey, I just installed ubuntu 12 and am using gnome-shell (gnome3), and when I click my "applications" button the menu only shows 4 items at a time and makes me scroll to see everything else23:11
usr13AcE_punK: I stand by my original recommendation.23:11
duhhwhat command what i use to update the time?23:11
nergthe "places" button doesnt do this, does anyone know how I can fix this?23:11
L1I'm using gnome-classic with some compiz stuff enabled (wobbly windows etc). When I drag a window to the edge of the screen it "snaps" to that edge (drag to right edge of screen, it fills 50% of screen on the right). This is useful MOST of the time, but is there a hotkey I can hold while dragging to cancel the snap before I release my mouse?23:11
AcE_punKusr13: what else swap will be doing than hibernation? i don't hibernate that much..i got the point of /home partition, i'll leave the rest of the disk space..but i stil wonder how much should I leave for /var and /tmp separately?23:12
usr13AcE_punK: Do you really think you need separate partitions for /var and /tmp?23:13
usr13(I don't.)23:13
usr13AcE_punK: As for swap:  Do you know what MS Windows calls Virtual Memory?  (That is what swap does.)23:13
smjI got Xfce4 running on Xnest23:14
usr13AcE_punK: swap is not just for hibernation or sleep mode.  There is more to it than that.23:14
AcE_punKusr13: what else can it do?23:15
jascI hoping s/one cane help me out. For some reason I'm only able to connect to the ubuntu irc (this one). All the others I've attempted to connect to fails.23:16
L1jasc: Other channels on Freenode? Or other netwrosk than freenode?23:17
smjXnest is a bit slow23:18
jascother networks on freenode i believe. Such as Debian...  which is first on the list23:18
AcE_punKusr13:  i think i must think a bit more about partitioning aftermath, since this will be my long term operating system..but i'll consider your 200M of boot space))23:19
usr13AcE_punK: swap is as the name implies, an area to swap files back and forth to and from.  Sort of like RAM but it is on the hard drive.  As you work on larg files, these large files may first be loaded into RAM but may be shifted to swap as you and your PC performs other tasks.  The OS makes these decisions in the background.23:19
jribjasc: what exactly are you attempting to do, how exactly are you attempting to do it, and what exactly happens in the end?23:19
L1jasc: What happens, for example,  when you type in "/join #debian" (without the quotes)23:20
usr13AcE_punK: When there is need for geater speed, RAM is used, when speed is not so important, swap is used so that more of your RAM can be free for other tasks.23:21
jascjrib: i click on one of those on the list, then I click connect. I noticed that all those others connect to port 6667 except for this one.23:21
blackshirti think if some process need a lot of memory,23:22
usr13AcE_punK: See:  https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space/23:22
jribjasc: what is "one of those on the list"23:22
jascjrib: One of the networks, suck as 'Debian Serves' and '2600net'23:23
AcE_punKusr13: i'll check it up after, see you around23:23
L1OK so narrowed down my query: Compiz Grid plugin, the Edges feature. Is there a way to assign a keyboard shortcut that when held, will cause the Edge snap to not happen?23:23
jribjasc: so do all the ones that fail not use port 6667?23:23
usr13AcE_punK: Better link:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq23:24
usr13AcE_punK: Ok23:24
usr13AcE_punK: My original recommendation still stands.23:25
pizzadudehey can anyone help me? my lifecam vx-2000 webcam isn't working in cheese anymore. it works in guvcview but it skips.23:25
pizzadudehere is the post on askubuntu with the output http://askubuntu.com/questions/191146/microsoft-lifecam-vx-2000-doesnt-work-anymore-in-cheese23:25
usr13AcE_punK:   8G swap,  20G /  &  the rest for /home/23:25
jascjrib: no, those that fail use port 666723:26
morganI still can't get this to work without killing everything :( How do I correctly do metacity --replace and then compiz --replace ?23:26
blackshirt8gb for swap...that was big23:26
usr13blackshirt: Yep23:26
gurjeetOn 12.04, my DNS seems to die every now and then.23:26
usr13blackshirt: Sure is.  But if you got it, why not use it?23:26
blackshirtgurjeet, why you say that?23:27
usr13blackshirt: Is he really gonna miss  4G?23:27
jascL1: when i typed the /join #debian command I got connected23:27
gurjeetIf I wget google.com, I get 'cpould not resolve' error, but if I do wget <google's IP address> I nicely get the index.html promptly.23:28
usr13blackshirt: If  4G is good, 8G is better.  (Especially since we have no idea what he may do with this system in the future.23:28
L1jasc: That joins you to the #debian channel on this server (freenode)23:28
blackshirtUsr13, i think linux manage memory very eficiently, and sometimes swap was not used mostly23:28
gurjeetblackshirt: ^^23:28
jribjasc: you probably have a firewall issue.  Check your router's settings if you have one23:28
usr13blackshirt: See:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq23:28
mirajgurjeet : are you using BIND as a caching dns? or are you an external DNS server directly?23:28
jascjrib: should I open port 6667 or forward it for this to work?23:29
usr13blackshirt: What about hybernation or sleep mode?23:29
pizzadudewhen i run my webcam in cheese and record a video it says "Reason: Media contains no supported video streams." in the terminal output. it used to work, now it just creates a 13kb webm file23:29
blackshirtusr13, yes, i see .... If the memory big enought, i think maybe better stay on ram ..23:29
morganHow do I correctly do metacity --replace and then compiz --replace without breaking anything, and running a game inbetween them23:30
blackshirtusr13, thats typically on desktop version...23:30
mirajpizzadude : maybe it's because microsoft doesn't want people using linux?23:30
pizzadudecan anyone here help me with this issue?23:30
pizzadudemiraj haha i think it's a problem with a missing package or something23:31
pizzadudeor a conflicting one23:31
gurjeetmiraj, blackshirt : I did not tweak anything about the network until this morning. After faceing this problem, I added'dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8' to /etc/network/interfaces.23:31
gurjeetand I still get occasional DNS downs.23:31
tuxmatthey all :)23:31
mirajpizzadude : did you delete any packages in-between the times when it worked and now when it doesn't?23:32
datiecherhey, I'm having some problems compiling pidgin from source on ubuntu 12.0423:32
trismdatiecher: start with: sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin;23:33
datiecherit's complaining i'm missing glib but i have libglib2.0-dev installed23:33
pizzadudemiraj: i might of, i did install mediubuntu packages though23:33
datiecheralready dit it23:33
datiecherdid*23:33
blackshirtusr13, for typical desktop usage, with ram 4gb, and swap 8gb, i think that wouldn't mostly used23:33
trismdatiecher: pastebin the exact error23:33
usr13blackshirt: It's like I told the other guy, 100M is enough for /boot/  but I recommend 200M.   If you have 4G of RAM, 4G is enough for swap, 8G is more than enough.  I like to make sure I'm not short-changing myself or anyone else.  You never know.  Half that swap may never get used, but that one time may mean the difference in not crashing during a critical task.23:33
datiechertrism: one sec23:33
pizzadudemiraj but that was a while ago, it started not working but i decided to forget about it23:34
mirajpizzadude : you could check the dependancies for chees and see if you've got them all?23:34
tuxmatti give mine 1gb for swap23:34
AaronCampbellI'm on Ubuntu 12.04, and recently my icons disappeared from the Desktop (the files are still in ~/Desktop), I can't launch a file browser, and running nautilus from the command line results in "Bus error (core dumped)"23:34
datiechertrism: http://pastebin.com/CbeMWQpS23:34
AaronCampbellAny idea what might cause this or where I can look for more info on what's wrong?23:34
pizzadudemiraj : i reinstalled cheese... but i'm wondering if mediubuntu has a different version of ffmpeg that is conflicting with cheese23:35
tuxmattAaronCampbell,  you may want to install the os23:35
pizzadudemiraj : doesn't sudo apt-get install cheese resolve the dependencies23:35
mirajpizzadude : that should be easy to check, the specified versions of ffmpeg23:35
trismdatiecher: pastebin the config.log, that isn't really helpful since we have glib 2.32 in precise23:36
AaronCampbelltuxmatt: Install the OS?23:36
blackshirtusr13, yes,you were right, but for some critical space disk,thats maybe be bloated...23:36
AaronCampbellDo you mean I'm missing some kind of dependency for Nautilus?23:36
mirajpizzadude : have you tried a different webcam to make sure it's not hardware related?23:37
pizzadudemiraj : where do i find cheese's dependencies including the version of ffmpeg it uses if it uses it23:37
pizzadudemiraj : someone bought me the same webcam and i tried it and it has the same issue23:37
datiechertrism: here it is: http://pastebin.com/6jy2RSqD23:37
maicodhi I'm struggling to disable automount and autoopen on ubuntu 12.04.1 . I tried dconf-editor and unchecked the apropriate boxes under org/gnome/media handling but automount keeps working for my USB drives . what can be wrong ?23:37
usr13blackshirt: Do you remember, (a few years ago),  we did everything on a system with < 1M RAM? And a few years before that, someone said that he didn't see why anyone would ever need more that 512k?  :):):):)23:37
mirajpizzadude : maybe trying a different brand of webcam could rule out microsoft-is-evil :)23:38
usr13... back to the future .....23:38
pizzadudemiraj : i'll wait until i get some money and try to buy a new webcam in the coming months and make sure if it doesn't work i can return it23:39
trismdatiecher: what does: pkg-config --cflags --libs glib-2.0; return?23:39
tuxmattAaronCampbell,  reinstall ubuntu linux23:39
tuxmattAaronCampbell,  i have to reinstall debian on my usb drive23:39
datiechertrism: -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include  -lglib-2.023:39
blackshirtusr13, yes,i know this .... But for sometimes 8 gb was not enought too :d ... Basically that was based on your need23:40
AaronCampbelltuxmatt: So your solution is basically start over?23:40
trismdatiecher: that looks good, odd, what pidgin version are you compiling23:40
AaronCampbellOr am I missing something?23:40
tuxmattAaronCampbell,  yea man im srry but i dont belive you can fix missing icons on your desktop23:41
datiecherlatest stable one 2.10.623:41
tuxmattbrb guys23:41
tuxmattAaronCampbell,  make sure that you have the latest kernerl23:41
AaronCampbellI find that hard to believe23:42
usr13blackshirt: Ok, well, we could go on and on, (but in #ubuntu-offtopic)23:42
trismdatiecher: I notice PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR is set, does ./configure work if you first, export PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=23:42
mirajpizzadude : all I can think of is to completely uninstall cheese and then do a fresh install of it23:42
FrowzyI was having a pretty sweet day up til openoffice deleted a payroll spreadsheet.23:43
datiechertrism: got the same error running "export PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=" and then ./configure again23:43
pizzadudemiraj : i've apt-get purged it and reinstalled it a few times23:43
mirajpizzadude : maybe delete cheese's config files too?23:43
Frowzydon't use openoffice, guys. it'll delete stuff. it's a known issue.23:43
pizzadudemiraj : i think it's a mediubuntu problem23:43
blackshirtusr13, thats right..lets go in23:44
blackshirtusr13, thats right..lets go on23:44
mirajpizzadude : you could (as an experiment) delete mediubuntu and see if cheese starts working?23:44
pizzadudemiraj : but deleting mediubuntu won't roll back the packages right23:44
mega1i have a ubuntu server 10.04 i can conect to it on the network but it wont connect to the internet23:45
pizzadudemiraj : wait i think i found a way to delete mediubuntu23:45
pizzadudehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/61974/medibuntu-repository-broke-my-system23:45
mirajpizzadude : does it work any better in a different usb port?23:46
subcool_can win8 be installed to unetbootin for installation? i ask because i only have ubuntu on... and asking this kinda question in windows23:46
pizzadudemiraj : nope23:46
pizzadudemiraj : i'm removing mediubuntu,23:46
mirajpizzadude : if, after a reboot, cheese starts working, you'll have your answer23:47
pizzadudeugh apt-get update is hanging on 100% Working23:47
pizzadudeoh wait now it's updating now23:48
datiechertrism: can you point me to any source code  that depends on glib i could try to compile and see if its a pidgin issue or my setup?23:48
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trismdatiecher: doesn't seem to be a pidgin issue, I just grabbed the latest upstream source and configured it23:49
malteHi...Can someone tell me how the $PATH variable is set BEFORE the local .bashrc file is called?23:50
jribmalte: why?23:51
datiechertrism: i'm not familiar with building things from source (web dev here) but this is a freshly installed version of ubuntu 12.04, the only thing i did was run apt-get build-dep pidgin AFAIR23:51
subcool_SOMEONE!??23:51
subcool_can win8 be installed to unetbootin for installation? i ask because i only have ubuntu on... and asking this kinda question in windows23:52
datiechertrism: by latest stable source you meant their hg repo or the 2.10.6 source code?23:52
maltejrib: because some weird paths are in there everytime a open a new shell. However, these paths do not appear in my .bashrc file, so they have to come from somewhere else.23:52
trismdatiecher: it has got to be some sort of environment issue, since in the config.log it says it can't find the glib-2.0.pc but when you run pkg-config it prints out the correct cflags and libs23:52
creative_xhow can i share files between 2 pcs via network?23:52
trismdatiecher: the tarball of 2.10.6 from the pidgin download page23:53
maicodhi I'm struggling to disable automount and autoopen on ubuntu 12.04.1 . I tried dconf-editor and unchecked the apropriate boxes under org/gnome/media handling but automount keeps working for my USB drives . what can be wrong ?23:53
pizzadudemiraj : how do you ppa-purge a repository like mediubuntu23:53
mirajcreative_x : ftp is always simple and easy to config23:53
datiechertrism: can't I force glib's location in the makefile somehow?23:53
trismdatiecher: did you grab yours from hg?23:53
jribmalte: what kind of weird paths?  Check /etc/environment (I don't think this is used for path though), /etc/bash*, and /etc/profile*23:53
David7malte, It get set by your .profile23:53
creative_xmiraJ: i was thinking the option that has the sharing options...23:53
datiechertrism: nope, just thought you did by your message :P23:53
David7malte, Or by the system profile in /etc/profile23:53
datiechertrism: but i tried with their 2.10.5 and got the same error as well23:53
creative_xmiraJ: can you help me with that23:54
mirajpizzadude : don't know, I never bothered much with mediubuntu23:54
mirajcreative_x : what would you like, netware or ms filesharing?23:55
pizzadudemiraj : i'll try synaptic23:55
creative_xmiraj: what ms means?23:55
mirajms = microsoft file and printer sharing23:55
gerbilcabbagehaicreative_x: there are many different ways to do what you are asking. Some questions for you to answer so we can help you better. What's your experience with ubuntu, networking, what version ubuntu have you and what is the other os?23:55
mirajcreative_x : if you want to be microsoft compatible, there is samba23:56
creative_xi want to transfer files bettweem ubuntu 12.04 lts and linux mint 1323:56
jerry_l1google: "open office delete issue" lists alot of pages of windows could not install or window could not uninstall..... how should i word the search?23:56
malteOkay, I checked them all. There does not seem to be anything wrong, in fact I can not remmever to ever have changed them. The pahts that are added are OLD paths that used to be in my .bashrc file.23:56
JhonHi ALL!23:57
gerbilcabbagehaicreative_x: wireless or wired?23:57
creative_xwired23:57
jribmalte: you should say what these "weird paths" you refer to actually are23:57
maltejust did23:57
gerbilcabbagehaicreative_x: gui?23:57
MissionControlI got a weird bug yesterday where ubuntu thought it's filesystem disk was full and now it's less than half full (like it's supposed to be)23:57
Jhonhelp please23:57
malteso I some of the paths are now just twice in my $PATH variable23:57
maltewhich is okay23:57
jribmalte: I don't see any paths in what you said23:57
Jhonany pro here?23:58
Jhoni need one qustion23:58
jrib!ask | Jhon23:58
ubottuJhon: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:58
malteit seems to me like there is an old .bashrc file somewhere in my system that is loaded, too.23:58
gerbilcabbagehaicreative_x: gui or cli?23:58
creative_xgui23:58
Jhonwho can help?23:58
maltebefore the actual .bashrc23:58
jribJhon: ask your question.23:58
Jhonok23:58
jerry_l1!payshence?23:58
ubottujerry_l1: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:58
gerbilcabbagehaicreative_x: have you looked in networking, enabled filesharing?23:59
Jhonnow i translate him23:59
trismdatiecher: does it work with the system gcc instead of the emcc in your home directory? (though I'm not sure that explains the pkg-config weirdness, I'm kind of reaching at this point)23:59
malteand it is written in the variable BEFORE the actual .bashrc is loaded23:59
creative_x<gerbilcabbagehai> yes23:59
jribmalte: yes, we understand your problem.  If you give us information we ask about, we can try to help you.23:59
Jhoni need program23:59
creative_x<gerbilcabbagehai> but its telling that its unable to mount the location23:59
Jhonspecial programm23:59
jerry_l1well ubotto you are more intelligent than some people i know .. :)23:59
jribJhon: stop pressing the enter key23:59
maltesorry, what exaclty?23:59
maltewhat the paths are?23:59
Jhonhelp plz23:59

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