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* micahg has upload rights for xubuntu docs...00:56
micahghrm? jbicha has upload rights for xubuntu docs also00:56
micahgah, mdke was the one w/out upload rights for the docs01:11
* micahg should get that fixed...01:12
SkippersBossmicahg, Is the oversized issue caused by both gtk2 and gtk3 libraries being used ??01:22
SkippersBossjust a question01:22
micahgSkippersBoss: gtk2/gtk3, python2/python301:23
SkippersBossAaah01:24
SkippersBossunderstood... will we go for gtk3 and pythin3 only for next release ??01:24
SkippersBosseuh 13.401:25
micahggtk3 if upstream does, we might go for python3 though01:25
SkippersBossah so we are bound by upstream here01:26
elfyknome - updated to new help docs - looks good :)05:34
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knomemicahg, now we're oversized with i386 :]10:11
smartboyhwbad.....10:12
knomelooks like something gave us 1MB10:12
knomesmartboyhw, no it's not, we have a plan for it10:12
smartboyhw:}10:12
knomemicahg, mr_pouit: if either of you are around, can you drop gnome-sudoku from the seeds; i'll ask for a respin after that10:20
smartboyhwknome: I´m surprised that you started making r blueprints already:)10:29
knomesmartboyhw, i did because i already know we need to work on those things10:30
smartboyhw:) Good work:)10:30
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micahgknome: ok, I hope that will be enough :)14:15
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bluesabreknome: Thanks for adding me to xubuntu-doc, and I feel sorry for how many emails you must get in a day14:42
smartboyhwMe too Thanks knome:)14:42
* elfy got scared and refused to read the e-mail he got 14:46
smartboyhwelfy: You are in:)14:46
elfywhat?14:46
smartboyhwelfy: Read the lines 5-6 lines above14:47
elfysmartboyhw: I know ... I read the e-mail as well ;)14:48
smartboyhw:)14:49
smartboyhwelfy: Then what is the email you refuse to read!?14:49
elfynvm14:49
smartboyhwExcuse me what does nvm mean?14:49
elfynevermind14:49
smartboyhw:)14:50
olbiit is possible to update live cd before october start? I want to check my language translations in installer :D14:51
smartboyhwolbi: zsync the iso image14:53
olbiof course, I forgot it :D14:53
smartboyhw;D14:54
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pnarcisohello15:11
smartboyhwHi pnarciso 15:13
micahgknome: should I drop sudoku from both or just i386?15:13
pnarcisoI'm disappointed that the latest daily build still won't install with custom partitions, ubiquity is seriously borked :(15:14
micahgpnarciso: is there a bug filed?15:14
xnoxpnarciso: why not? it should? have you booted with `debug-ubiquity` and is there a bug?15:14
pnarcisoinstallation hangs on region selection , it doesn't get past there, the problem is related to ubiquity and it's present in all ubuntu variations. I can only install using alternate install15:15
ochosixnox: do you actually get highlighted when someone here says "ubiquity"? :)15:17
xnoxochosi: yes. ubiquity lvm btrfs raid mdadm e2fsprogs sabdfl xnox .....15:17
pnarcisothis problem appeared after alpha3 and it wasn't fixed15:18
xnoxeverything "interesting"15:18
ochosixnox: wow, that definitely sounds like it solves the problem of not getting highlighted often enough15:18
xnoxpnarciso: but how did we release beta1 then?15:18
xnoxochosi: it's not that much highlights to be honest.15:18
elfypnarciso: I've installed fine with custom partitions numerous times15:18
pnarcisogood question15:18
ochosixnox: oh, then maybe add "bug" to your highlight list ;)15:19
pnarcisoThe problem could be related to grub install15:19
xnoxpnarciso: at boot press Esc -> select language -> F6 -> type `only-ubiquity debug-ubiquity` boot.15:19
xnoxpnarciso: after it hangs switch to tty1 and do `ubuntu-bug ubiquity`15:19
pnarcisoI don't install grub on mbr, but in the root partition, because I use easybcd instead15:19
xnoxgrub is borked on todays daily.15:20
* xnox not sure if it was respun or not15:20
elfypnarciso: someone was having issues with easybcd - they got a new one 15:20
pnarcisothe problem is not in easybcd15:20
xnoxpnarciso: please file a bug as outlined above15:21
pnarcisoinstallation hangs on region selection, It doesn't reach keyboard selection15:21
pnarcisobut I can see the installation status bar moving, but I can't advance past there15:22
pnarcisoI filed a bug when this issue first appeared, and it's not fixed yet, so It should be open15:22
xnoxpnarciso: bug # ?15:22
pnarcisodunno must search :)15:23
olbihmm, I installed 4 times from LiveCD and all was ok :)15:30
olbiwith custom partitions15:30
pnarcisowith grub in mbr?15:31
olbii take deafult option, so it have to be in mbr15:31
pnarcisoI don't install in mbr15:32
pnarcisothat could be the issue15:32
olbiinstallation was done on VM and normal machines15:32
olbimaybe15:32
olbiI choose mbr allways15:32
olbiit's is saftly15:32
pnarcisoI prefer to use easybcd and boot from windows boot loader15:33
pnarcisoIt's safer for me, because it's easier to uninstall linux without damaging the mbr15:33
olbiyes, it is :) that's why I allways install os's on different hdd15:36
pnarcisohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/102099215:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1020992 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "installation hang in clock_gettime if connected to net and download of updates checked" [Medium,Confirmed]15:39
olbiyay, on todays LiveCD there is sound icon in indicator :D15:39
pnarcisodunno if this is the same bug, but the symptoms are the same15:39
pnarcisoit's a shame messaging indicator could not make it15:41
pnarcisohere's another report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/103944615:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1039446 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Install hangs at time zone selector" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:56
micahgdoes anyone have today's ISO locally that can give me an exact size?16:06
elfymicahg: if no-one has I can zsync them and see 16:07
micahgelfy: if you could, please, I'm trying to figure out if dropping sudoku is enough16:10
elfyokey doke16:10
pleia2-rw------- 1 elizabeth elizabeth 732954624 Sep 20  2012 quantal-desktop-amd64.iso16:12
pleia2-rw------- 1 elizabeth elizabeth 738504704 Sep 20  2012 quantal-desktop-i386.iso16:12
elfyor not then :)16:13
micahgpleia2: thanks!16:22
micahgso, we need another ~450k16:23
genii-aroundMan. That's so tight.16:25
SkippersBoss0n 64 ?16:26
micahgno, i38616:36
pleia2I haven't tested in a while, black on black and grey traces are gone :)16:39
ochosipleia2: you mean in ubiquity?16:40
pleia2yep16:40
ochosiyup, my tiny patch was merged16:40
pleia2thanks ochosi :)16:40
* micahg is dropping aisleriot (2MB) and keeping sudoku (850k)16:40
ochosifarewell aisleriot... we had fun times16:41
micahgochosi: it's still in the archive :)16:41
ochosimicahg: yeh, i know, just trying to make your job more fun ;)16:41
ochosibbl16:44
micahgmr_pouit: knome: meta uploaded with aisleriot removed16:55
micahgknome: I discovered aisleriot brought in the cards which was over 1MB by itself, so it made more sense to drop that16:56
knomemicahg, ok17:43
pleia2knome: case badges are $1/ea when buying 100 ($1.45/ea for 50)18:01
pleia2placing an order for 10018:01
knomeok18:01
knomei can pay for some of them, if you bring them to uds18:01
knomealso, do you have more stickers?18:01
pleia2will do18:01
pleia2yep, have more stickers18:02
knomehow much were those per sheet?18:02
pleia2104       Round Stickers                              $20.9818:03
knomeooh18:03
knomehow many do you have? :P18:03
pleia2plus $5 shipping18:04
knomeoh right18:04
pleia2looks like 70 or so18:04
knomeyou going to order more stickers before UDS?18:04
pleia2doubtful18:04
knomemmh18:04
pleia2case badges are a "I shouldn't spend this money" item at the moment18:04
knomeis the shipping the same to finland?18:04
knomelol18:04
pleia2don't know, I order from their US outlet at moo.com, they also have moo.co.uk18:05
pleia2so mine ship from the US18:05
knomei can buy case badges for $30 worth from you18:05
pleia2ok18:06
knomewell if you order stickers, i can buy that 104 pieces too :P18:06
knomebut if you'd only order that one batch, no need18:07
pleia2yeah I'm not planning on other moo orders right now18:07
knomeyeah18:07
knomei can probably buy more of the case stickers actually18:07
knomei'll get back to you next week.18:07
pleia2ok18:07
knomemicahg, mr_pouit?18:33
micahgknome: yes?19:02
ochosimicahg: he went away a few mins ago19:03
ochosibut i can tell you what he wanted19:03
ochosithing is that it seems the xubuntu-artwork package hasn't been updated for beta2 yet19:03
ochosiactually all themes would need a new upload, and elementary-xfce icon theme19:04
ochosimicahg: so the question is whether you could do the upload in case mr_pouit doesn't return in time?19:05
micahgif it's in the branch, I can upload it, but I'm unfamiliar with how the packaging is done19:05
ochosiusually he grabbed the tarballs from github19:05
ochosii use tags to do releases19:05
ochosiso he usually grabs the latest tag from git master19:06
ochosii don't think the updates are in the branch yet19:06
ochosibbiab19:13
pleia2case badges ordered (I had to call and make a payment over the phone, it was like 1995!)21:37
ochosihehe21:38
ochosilooking forward to seeing them21:39
pleia2they said they should ship out some time early next week :)21:40
ochosicool21:40
xubuntu_quantal_When multiple workspaces are present, dragging a window against the side borders will move the window into an adjacent workspace.  When a single workspace is enabled, dragging the window against the side borders will snap the window to the side, sometimes called the "aero snap".22:50
xubuntu_quantal_1) To me, this is a bug. Very different functionality based on a subtle difference. 2) The aerosnap function is more useful, therefore, how can I force that functionality? Where do I set that?22:51
xubuntu_quantal_BAM! Settings > Window Manager > Advanced: Uncheck "Wrap Workspace when dragging window off screen", which overrides "Snap Window to screen border".22:59
xubuntu_quantal_weird. Still not totally appropriate, but w/e22:59
xubuntu_quantal_Second, there is a bug I'd like to help investigate; When I try transfering files through Samba, the file transfer freezes and I can't cancel the operation.23:00
xubuntu_quantal_Working in precise last night, broken in Quantal today. What package would that be on the client side?23:00
xubuntu_quantal_Cool23:17

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