[00:56]  * micahg has upload rights for xubuntu docs...
[00:56] <micahg> hrm? jbicha has upload rights for xubuntu docs also
[01:11] <micahg> ah, mdke was the one w/out upload rights for the docs
[01:12]  * micahg should get that fixed...
[01:22] <SkippersBoss> micahg, Is the oversized issue caused by both gtk2 and gtk3 libraries being used ??
[01:22] <SkippersBoss> just a question
[01:23] <micahg> SkippersBoss: gtk2/gtk3, python2/python3
[01:24] <SkippersBoss> Aaah
[01:24] <SkippersBoss> understood... will we go for gtk3 and pythin3 only for next release ??
[01:25] <SkippersBoss> euh 13.4
[01:25] <micahg> gtk3 if upstream does, we might go for python3 though
[01:26] <SkippersBoss> ah so we are bound by upstream here
[05:34] <elfy> knome - updated to new help docs - looks good :)
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[10:11] <knome> micahg, now we're oversized with i386 :]
[10:12] <smartboyhw> bad.....
[10:12] <knome> looks like something gave us 1MB
[10:12] <knome> smartboyhw, no it's not, we have a plan for it
[10:12] <smartboyhw> :}
[10:20] <knome> micahg, mr_pouit: if either of you are around, can you drop gnome-sudoku from the seeds; i'll ask for a respin after that
[10:29] <smartboyhw> knome: I´m surprised that you started making r blueprints already:)
[10:30] <knome> smartboyhw, i did because i already know we need to work on those things
[10:30] <smartboyhw> :) Good work:)
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[14:15] <micahg> knome: ok, I hope that will be enough :)
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[14:42] <bluesabre> knome: Thanks for adding me to xubuntu-doc, and I feel sorry for how many emails you must get in a day
[14:42] <smartboyhw> Me too Thanks knome:)
[14:46]  * elfy got scared and refused to read the e-mail he got 
[14:46] <smartboyhw> elfy: You are in:)
[14:46] <elfy> what?
[14:47] <smartboyhw> elfy: Read the lines 5-6 lines above
[14:48] <elfy> smartboyhw: I know ... I read the e-mail as well ;)
[14:49] <smartboyhw> :)
[14:49] <smartboyhw> elfy: Then what is the email you refuse to read!?
[14:49] <elfy> nvm
[14:49] <smartboyhw> Excuse me what does nvm mean?
[14:49] <elfy> nevermind
[14:50] <smartboyhw> :)
[14:51] <olbi> it is possible to update live cd before october start? I want to check my language translations in installer :D
[14:53] <smartboyhw> olbi: zsync the iso image
[14:53] <olbi> of course, I forgot it :D
[14:54] <smartboyhw> ;D
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[15:11] <pnarciso> hello
[15:13] <smartboyhw> Hi pnarciso 
[15:13] <micahg> knome: should I drop sudoku from both or just i386?
[15:14] <pnarciso> I'm disappointed that the latest daily build still won't install with custom partitions, ubiquity is seriously borked :(
[15:14] <micahg> pnarciso: is there a bug filed?
[15:14] <xnox> pnarciso: why not? it should? have you booted with `debug-ubiquity` and is there a bug?
[15:15] <pnarciso> installation hangs on region selection , it doesn't get past there, the problem is related to ubiquity and it's present in all ubuntu variations. I can only install using alternate install
[15:17] <ochosi> xnox: do you actually get highlighted when someone here says "ubiquity"? :)
[15:17] <xnox> ochosi: yes. ubiquity lvm btrfs raid mdadm e2fsprogs sabdfl xnox .....
[15:18] <pnarciso> this problem appeared after alpha3 and it wasn't fixed
[15:18] <xnox> everything "interesting"
[15:18] <ochosi> xnox: wow, that definitely sounds like it solves the problem of not getting highlighted often enough
[15:18] <xnox> pnarciso: but how did we release beta1 then?
[15:18] <xnox> ochosi: it's not that much highlights to be honest.
[15:18] <elfy> pnarciso: I've installed fine with custom partitions numerous times
[15:18] <pnarciso> good question
[15:19] <ochosi> xnox: oh, then maybe add "bug" to your highlight list ;)
[15:19] <pnarciso> The problem could be related to grub install
[15:19] <xnox> pnarciso: at boot press Esc -> select language -> F6 -> type `only-ubiquity debug-ubiquity` boot.
[15:19] <xnox> pnarciso: after it hangs switch to tty1 and do `ubuntu-bug ubiquity`
[15:19] <pnarciso> I don't install grub on mbr, but in the root partition, because I use easybcd instead
[15:20] <xnox> grub is borked on todays daily.
[15:20]  * xnox not sure if it was respun or not
[15:20] <elfy> pnarciso: someone was having issues with easybcd - they got a new one 
[15:20] <pnarciso> the problem is not in easybcd
[15:21] <xnox> pnarciso: please file a bug as outlined above
[15:21] <pnarciso> installation hangs on region selection, It doesn't reach keyboard selection
[15:22] <pnarciso> but I can see the installation status bar moving, but I can't advance past there
[15:22] <pnarciso> I filed a bug when this issue first appeared, and it's not fixed yet, so It should be open
[15:22] <xnox> pnarciso: bug # ?
[15:23] <pnarciso> dunno must search :)
[15:30] <olbi> hmm, I installed 4 times from LiveCD and all was ok :)
[15:30] <olbi> with custom partitions
[15:31] <pnarciso> with grub in mbr?
[15:31] <olbi> i take deafult option, so it have to be in mbr
[15:32] <pnarciso> I don't install in mbr
[15:32] <pnarciso> that could be the issue
[15:32] <olbi> installation was done on VM and normal machines
[15:32] <olbi> maybe
[15:32] <olbi> I choose mbr allways
[15:32] <olbi> it's is saftly
[15:33] <pnarciso> I prefer to use easybcd and boot from windows boot loader
[15:33] <pnarciso> It's safer for me, because it's easier to uninstall linux without damaging the mbr
[15:36] <olbi> yes, it is :) that's why I allways install os's on different hdd
[15:39] <pnarciso> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1020992
[15:39] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1020992 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "installation hang in clock_gettime if connected to net and download of updates checked" [Medium,Confirmed]
[15:39] <olbi> yay, on todays LiveCD there is sound icon in indicator :D
[15:39] <pnarciso> dunno if this is the same bug, but the symptoms are the same
[15:41] <pnarciso> it's a shame messaging indicator could not make it
[15:56] <pnarciso> here's another report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1039446
[15:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1039446 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Install hangs at time zone selector" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[16:06] <micahg> does anyone have today's ISO locally that can give me an exact size?
[16:07] <elfy> micahg: if no-one has I can zsync them and see 
[16:10] <micahg> elfy: if you could, please, I'm trying to figure out if dropping sudoku is enough
[16:10] <elfy> okey doke
[16:12] <pleia2> -rw------- 1 elizabeth elizabeth 732954624 Sep 20  2012 quantal-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:12] <pleia2> -rw------- 1 elizabeth elizabeth 738504704 Sep 20  2012 quantal-desktop-i386.iso
[16:13] <elfy> or not then :)
[16:22] <micahg> pleia2: thanks!
[16:23] <micahg> so, we need another ~450k
[16:25] <genii-around> Man. That's so tight.
[16:26] <SkippersBoss> 0n 64 ?
[16:36] <micahg> no, i386
[16:39] <pleia2> I haven't tested in a while, black on black and grey traces are gone :)
[16:40] <ochosi> pleia2: you mean in ubiquity?
[16:40] <pleia2> yep
[16:40] <ochosi> yup, my tiny patch was merged
[16:40] <pleia2> thanks ochosi :)
[16:40]  * micahg is dropping aisleriot (2MB) and keeping sudoku (850k)
[16:41] <ochosi> farewell aisleriot... we had fun times
[16:41] <micahg> ochosi: it's still in the archive :)
[16:41] <ochosi> micahg: yeh, i know, just trying to make your job more fun ;)
[16:44] <ochosi> bbl
[16:55] <micahg> mr_pouit: knome: meta uploaded with aisleriot removed
[16:56] <micahg> knome: I discovered aisleriot brought in the cards which was over 1MB by itself, so it made more sense to drop that
[17:43] <knome> micahg, ok
[18:01] <pleia2> knome: case badges are $1/ea when buying 100 ($1.45/ea for 50)
[18:01] <pleia2> placing an order for 100
[18:01] <knome> ok
[18:01] <knome> i can pay for some of them, if you bring them to uds
[18:01] <knome> also, do you have more stickers?
[18:01] <pleia2> will do
[18:02] <pleia2> yep, have more stickers
[18:02] <knome> how much were those per sheet?
[18:03] <pleia2> 104       Round Stickers                              $20.98
[18:03] <knome> ooh
[18:03] <knome> how many do you have? :P
[18:04] <pleia2> plus $5 shipping
[18:04] <knome> oh right
[18:04] <pleia2> looks like 70 or so
[18:04] <knome> you going to order more stickers before UDS?
[18:04] <pleia2> doubtful
[18:04] <knome> mmh
[18:04] <pleia2> case badges are a "I shouldn't spend this money" item at the moment
[18:04] <knome> is the shipping the same to finland?
[18:04] <knome> lol
[18:05] <pleia2> don't know, I order from their US outlet at moo.com, they also have moo.co.uk
[18:05] <pleia2> so mine ship from the US
[18:05] <knome> i can buy case badges for $30 worth from you
[18:06] <pleia2> ok
[18:06] <knome> well if you order stickers, i can buy that 104 pieces too :P
[18:07] <knome> but if you'd only order that one batch, no need
[18:07] <pleia2> yeah I'm not planning on other moo orders right now
[18:07] <knome> yeah
[18:07] <knome> i can probably buy more of the case stickers actually
[18:07] <knome> i'll get back to you next week.
[18:07] <pleia2> ok
[18:33] <knome> micahg, mr_pouit?
[19:02] <micahg> knome: yes?
[19:03] <ochosi> micahg: he went away a few mins ago
[19:03] <ochosi> but i can tell you what he wanted
[19:03] <ochosi> thing is that it seems the xubuntu-artwork package hasn't been updated for beta2 yet
[19:04] <ochosi> actually all themes would need a new upload, and elementary-xfce icon theme
[19:05] <ochosi> micahg: so the question is whether you could do the upload in case mr_pouit doesn't return in time?
[19:05] <micahg> if it's in the branch, I can upload it, but I'm unfamiliar with how the packaging is done
[19:05] <ochosi> usually he grabbed the tarballs from github
[19:05] <ochosi> i use tags to do releases
[19:06] <ochosi> so he usually grabs the latest tag from git master
[19:06] <ochosi> i don't think the updates are in the branch yet
[19:13] <ochosi> bbiab
[21:37] <pleia2> case badges ordered (I had to call and make a payment over the phone, it was like 1995!)
[21:38] <ochosi> hehe
[21:39] <ochosi> looking forward to seeing them
[21:40] <pleia2> they said they should ship out some time early next week :)
[21:40] <ochosi> cool
[22:50] <xubuntu_quantal_> When multiple workspaces are present, dragging a window against the side borders will move the window into an adjacent workspace.  When a single workspace is enabled, dragging the window against the side borders will snap the window to the side, sometimes called the "aero snap".
[22:51] <xubuntu_quantal_> 1) To me, this is a bug. Very different functionality based on a subtle difference. 2) The aerosnap function is more useful, therefore, how can I force that functionality? Where do I set that?
[22:59] <xubuntu_quantal_> BAM! Settings > Window Manager > Advanced: Uncheck "Wrap Workspace when dragging window off screen", which overrides "Snap Window to screen border".
[22:59] <xubuntu_quantal_> weird. Still not totally appropriate, but w/e
[23:00] <xubuntu_quantal_> Second, there is a bug I'd like to help investigate; When I try transfering files through Samba, the file transfer freezes and I can't cancel the operation.
[23:00] <xubuntu_quantal_> Working in precise last night, broken in Quantal today. What package would that be on the client side?
[23:17] <xubuntu_quantal_> Cool