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ScottyKgreetings! On a fresh dual boot system, win7 runs fine, but the Kubuntu side has a severe lag. keys are slow to respond, and mouse clicks take a while to function. Went to recovery mode and downloaded all updates.00:21
monkeyjuicehave you run update and upgrade? ScottyK00:27
ScottyKmonkeyjuice - yes, via the command line00:27
monkeyjuice12.04?00:28
ScottyKyes - 12.04.1 (64 bit)00:28
monkeyjuicedo you know what video card you have00:29
ScottyKNvidia GEForce 8600 GS00:30
monkeyjuicehttp://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58471-Nvidia-Drivers  ScottyK maybe some help heree00:31
ScottyKmonkeyjuice - thanks! I'll give this a try...00:33
monkeyjuiceok good luck to ya00:33
ScottyKOh yeah, still running the default driver (non-nvidia)00:34
ScottyKhavn't activated the nvidia driver yet00:34
monkeyjuiceya could be then00:34
michaelc22question with kubuntu it wont let me copyy and paste from kubuntu to a virtual box i have windows 7 in vb is these any settings for this?00:53
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michaelc22question with kubuntu it wont let me copyy and paste from kubuntu to a virtual box i have windows 7 in vb is there any settings for this?01:12
mparilloNot sure about virtual box, but in VMWare, you generally want to install VMWare tools for smoother experience. Perhaps Virtual Box has something similar?01:17
mparilloWhich is the host and which is the guest?01:20
SIR_Taco_michaelc22: CTRL-SHIFT-V and CTRL-SHIFT-C (paste/copy) should work01:22
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Enriquecan tell me some one something about of kde5?01:32
Enriquesomebody tell me something about of kde5_01:33
Enrique?01:33
SIR_Taco_Enrique: not sure there is a current KDE5 plan01:36
SIR_Taco_Enrique: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.9_Feature_Plan maybe when this list is finished?01:37
Enriquei was read about that n i want to know something01:38
Enriquetanks guys01:40
wendellalgum brasileiro?02:00
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FloodBotK1!netsplit04:23
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit04:23
thechefWhat's the difference of Alt+F2 and the Kickoff-"Anwendungsstarter"?04:31
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thechefI think I can replace the Kickoff- safely with the classic one so I don't just have shortcuts, search and search, but shortcuts search and exploration04:36
willie_strange problem - since updating last night my mouse is "auto-scrolling"06:17
willie_I have changed mice but still same behaviour06:17
willie_after much faffing I got into system settings | Hardware|input|mouse and set scroll to 1 line per click which helps but not much. I dont see anything I have inadvertently changed in there06:17
willie_makes  viewing web pages very difficult because the links keep scrolling away from you06:18
willie_if I dont move the mouse off the active window it just keeps scrolling upwards. I have restarted X, rebooted and done a complete power cycle several times but the weirdness persists06:18
hateballwillie_: if you run "xev", do you see it registering the scrollwheel even if you dont touch it?06:30
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willie_hateball: I'll try that - thx06:31
hateballwillie_: just another thing to use to troubleshoot I guess :)06:32
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jjshabswould it be better for me to post sound issues i'm having with my CK804 onboard on kubuntu12.0406:34
jjshabsonto the forums, or does in here work ?06:34
hateball!ask06:35
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:35
willie_hateball: never run xev before so not sure what is "normal"  I see a black square top left that does not seem to respond to anything - however I have LOTS of console output06:35
hateballwillie_: if you place the cursor over it, and just let it rest there it should not do anything. It displays hardware input. Try unplugging the mouse and see if it persists06:36
willie_I 'll try pasting some but its very difficult to get and maintain focus06:36
jjshabs12.04 kubuntu install fails to recognise my Nvidia onboard audio, CK804. This could possibly be due to a conflict with my radeon gfx card's hdmi port - as this appeared in the 10.04.3lts release.06:36
willie_hateball: OK06:37
willie_now the mouse is moving on its own to the top -left06:38
hateballWithout being physically plugged in?06:38
willie_it was doing this before but stopped after a power cycle - Im suspecting mobo problems06:38
jjshabsBIOS setting for onboard audio: enabled. alsa or pulse both unable to detect. Kde ends up removing these devices. How to rectify this, or appropriately file a bug is what i'm after.06:38
willie_which is a bummer cos its just >1yr old06:38
willie_no sorry it is till pluggedin - removing now06:39
hateballwillie_: Unplugging it should quiet xev, assuming it's a hardware error. You could try a different USB port, if you have any spare06:39
willie_OK mouse disppears but still lots of output to console06:40
willie_Im into a 10 port powerd hub , time to crawl under desk and use a "real" usb socket06:41
willie_no -still the same when I plug into the back of the box06:43
hateballwillie_: Do you still have the USB hub plugged in tho?06:43
SmurphyMorning.06:43
willie_ah.....06:43
hateballwillie_: If possible, try to unplug as many peripherals as possible06:43
hateballwillie_: So you just have the computer and your input devices06:44
willie_yes its this hub -- thanks :-)06:44
hateball:)06:44
willie_time for the bin and a better quality one of Ebay -- thanks :-)06:44
hateballMaybe power cycling the hub sorts it out, but yeah... getting a reliable one is probably better :(06:45
hateball:)06:45
willie_it was only 6quid or so IIRC06:45
willie_it was driving me insane last night06:45
hateballFirst rule of troubleshooting: unplug *all* the things ;D06:46
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apersonerr, 1207:23
phoenix_firebrdI having problem with nvidia proprietary driver, it is not getting loaded09:17
phoenix_firebrdxorg log http://paste.kde.org/554090/09:18
lordievaderGood morning.09:25
lordievaderphoenix_firebrd: How did you install the driver?09:25
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: good morning, I installed using jockey09:25
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: I switched from internal intel graphics to nvidia09:26
lordievaderphoenix_firebrd: I see, and the nVidia control panel complains about the driver not being loaded?09:26
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: ya09:27
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: I have been tinkering with the files09:27
lordievaderphoenix_firebrd: Is there in your bios a setting for the default graphics card?09:27
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: ya, its set to peg09:28
lordievaderphoenix_firebrd: Peg? Another thing does the jockey say the card/driver is activated?09:28
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: peg is pci express graphics i guess. Yes jockey says the driver is activated but not being used09:29
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: nvidia-settings complains that the driver is not loaded09:30
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: http://paste.kde.org/554090/09:30
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: thats the xorg log09:30
phoenix_firebrdthere is a problem with the module loading path09:30
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: its pointing to wrong location09:30
lordievaderphoenix_firebrd: I see, have you tried re-installing the driver?09:32
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: ya09:32
lordievaderphoenix_firebrd: What fps do you get when running glxgears?09:33
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: i am getting this when i run glxgears "Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual09:34
phoenix_firebrd"09:34
lordievaderphoenix_firebrd: That is odd. Have you read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37084/nvidia-driver-activated-but-currently-not-in-use09:36
lordievaderphoenix_firebrd: That reminds me, have you run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"?09:39
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: ya09:40
lordievaderphoenix_firebrd: And rebooted too, I take it.09:40
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: the card is detected "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G96 [GeForce 9400 GT] (rev a1)"09:40
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lordievaderphoenix_firebrd: Perhaps this is helpfull, it is for an even older card though: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126905/nvidia-driver-cannot-be-installed-with-jockey-for-old-hardware09:44
lordievaderphoenix_firebrd: The only other thing I can think of is uninstalling the driver and manually installing the driver.09:44
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: I am going to try a solution i found in a webpage, i will be back after a restart09:46
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: found a solution here, going to try that10:09
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=14798310:09
lordievaderphoenix_firebrd: Good luck!10:10
phoenix_firebrdlordievader: I have to go now, thanks for the support10:14
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avihaythink there will be an ubuntu 12.04.2?10:33
lalehi10:49
thechefavihay: why not?10:51
avihaycause 12.10 is round da corner10:52
hateball!lts10:52
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)10:52
thechef!14.0410:52
thechefIs 14.04 also 5 years supported on the desktop?10:53
hateballwho knows, it's quite a while til it gets released :)10:54
thechefI thought of ignoring 12.04 and switching from 10.04.4 directly to 14.04.1, I guess I'd be more than one year without security updates then, but doesn't matter because no one else is doing that..10:58
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hateballIf you're on 10.04 I'd upgrade to 12.04 anyhow, KDE is a *lot* better over here ;)11:02
thechefbut I think I can switch directly from 10.04 to 12.04, because thanks to switching from Gnome to KDE and after some waves of bug fixes and the general development which seems to be faster in the KDE area, Ubuntu 12.04 will probably recover soon enough until EOL of 120.0411:02
thechef*of 10.0411:02
thechefah, sure, but 10.04 GNOME is much better than 12.04 Unity :-)11:03
hateballPerhaps, I wouldnt know11:03
thechefI've never seen such an imprecise, slow and messy desktop like Unity11:04
thechefsorry.. :-( neverending anger, even though I switched to KDE11:05
hateballthechef: that's what !ot is for ;p11:08
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BluesKajHey all11:49
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lordievaderHey BluesKaj, how are you?12:12
BluesKajhi lordievader , fine thanks , and you ?12:15
lordievaderBluesKaj: I'm doing good, it's my free day :)12:17
BluesKajok , we call it a "day off "here12:21
lordievaderBluesKaj: Ah, yes, well that :)12:23
javinhohello guys, i use kubuntu 32 bits and work perfect 10 month,  but now change to 64 bits by one friend coment me kubuntu 64 run perfect without problems, but i install kubuntu 64 bits and in 1 mounth view many bugs reported... all distro 64 bits are the same?12:42
RamchandraApte64-bit kubuntu is working absolutely fine for me12:42
RamchandraAptewith a about 1-2 bugs12:42
javinhommm not bug in flash player (firefox)?12:42
RamchandraAptei use chrome12:43
RamchandraApteoops12:43
RamchandraAptei use chromium12:43
javinhook, understand12:43
RamchandraApteflash player will not be available for linux anymore12:43
RamchandraAptehttp://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/03/31/1417245/adobe-releases-last-linux-version-of-flash-player12:44
javinhofirefox have problems in open folder donwloaded and flash player two: (change blue to red images (repair ok), crashed (not know what is the problem)12:44
javinhoRam, i recent intall chrome12:45
RamchandraApteok12:45
javinhoand youtube work good, but i dont like use time to find and repair errors, need the cpu to work...12:45
javinhois better return to 32 bits?12:45
RamchandraApteflash player is supported for 64-bit linux12:46
RamchandraApteyou can try kubuntu 32-bit in a VM to see the difference12:46
javinhommm i before in this cpu have installed kubuntu 32-bits and work perfect12:47
javinhobefore? mmm after..12:47
javinhonuu... before xD12:47
RamchandraApteyoutube can use html512:48
RamchandraAptefirefox supports html512:48
RamchandraAptehttp://www.youtube.com/html512:48
javinhoah, this is a problem think12:48
javinhommm the stragne is  flash start crashing i try change the blue to red in youtube movies...12:49
javinhohttp://www.lacosaestamuymal.com/2012/03/videos-de-youtube-se-ven-en-azul-con.html12:49
javinhothis is the solution but, next this solution, many popups open in browser12:50
javinhoand install the block popups in firefox and flash plugin dont work (next tri disable the block popups but continue not working)12:51
javinhoi dont block youtube12:51
javinhoyoutube working fine first but 1 min or two crash12:52
javinhoor i change time in video12:52
javinhook, i try whait one mount more to test, i need exit to dinner, ty RamchandraApte for response12:53
BluesKaji was going to suggest ia32-libs-multiarch , but he left12:59
BluesKajsounds like he has some conf files that are acting up13:00
shadeslayerBluesKaj: ia32-libs-multiarch is broken on precise ;)13:00
BluesKajoops , shadeslayer13:01
BluesKaj. glad he wasn't here13:01
shadeslayerfor every time you think you need ia32-libs, think again, and install the required libs by hand13:01
shadeslayerthat's what I do :)13:01
hateball:D13:01
BluesKajshadeslayer, I haven't had to install ia32libs for a while13:04
george_Hello. I had to delete ~/.kde because of segmentation faults. Everything is ok, except that events created with KOrganizer are not showing on my calendar. Any ideas? Thanks.13:05
Smurphygeorge_: yes - you deleted the events with KOrganizer - as they were probably under ~/.kde.13:06
george_Smurphy: no, they are still at KOrganizer's agenda, timeline, the problem is that they don't appear at panel calendar.13:07
george_Anyone, any ideas?13:11
Smurphygeorge_: Hmmm. Dunno then13:17
george_I guess, I'll have to post at KDE or Kubuntu forums'...13:31
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qw[russian]hello all13:42
qw[russian]help me please i would like install panel in WIndows this name is RocketDock and Linux ?;(13:43
Peace-qw[russian]: you can't13:47
Peace-qw[russian]: there is daisy13:47
Peace-daisy plasma widget13:48
21WAAI8X9`you can use icon task manager in plasma (std)13:48
qw[russian]help me please install Plagin in my firefox13:49
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qw[russian]Explain to me please why when I want to establish openSUSE or Ubuntu on the laptop (acer eMachines g725) at me dies away the screen and I not that don't see that occurs14:16
lordievader!russian | qw[russian]14:21
ubottuqw[russian]: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.14:21
qw[russian]but i am speak English too )14:22
spexi:D14:22
spexiI think lordievader thought russian may still be better for you :)14:23
lordievaderqw[russian]: Yes I know, however I didn't understand the question, hence me refering to the russian room.14:23
qw[russian]=) do you speak russian?14:23
lordievaderqw[russian]: Me or spexi?14:24
spexiI don't14:24
lordievaderI'd be surprised if I did speak russian.14:24
qw[russian]lordievader, you14:24
genii-aroundAccording to specs of the g725 it uses Intel Mobile 4 Series video, I would suspect that to be likely the issue of the screen not working if it is doing this during an install.14:25
spexilordievader: not even when totally drunk? :D14:25
lordievaderspexi: I rarely am totally drunk, so I don't really know. Perhaps, but I don't find it likely.14:26
spexiokay :)14:26
qw[russian]well I am paraphrased: when I try to establish openSUSE or Ubuntu on the laptop (acer eMachines g725) at me goes out the screen and I not that don't see that occurs14:27
lordievaderqw[russian]: Still I am not sure what you are asking. What are you trying to establish, a connection? Or are you asking why the screen goes out when you do something?14:30
qw[russian]ohhh14:30
qw[russian]o my God )14:31
lordievaderqw[russian]: Getting impatient isn't going to help you.14:31
lordievaderqw[russian]: So let's try again when you have calmed down. Try to explain your problem again.14:33
qw[russian]okey14:33
qw[russian]one min please14:33
qw[russian]I try to install openSUSE, or Ubuntu on the laptop (eMachines g725 maple)14:34
qw[russian]up to this point everything is clear?14:35
lordievaderqw[russian]: Yes.14:35
qw[russian]at installation above the specified systems my monitor goes out and doesn't join14:35
qw[russian]you understand ?14:36
genii-around!nomodeset14:37
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter14:37
lordievaderqw[russian]: I think so, you are trying to install the OS, from a live-cd I presume? Does the monitor go out before you have started the installation process or during?14:37
genii-aroundbug 98965814:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 989658 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Resolution not detected correctly on Intel Mobile 4 series" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98965814:37
qw[russian]befor set language14:39
lordievaderqw[russian]: Follow genii-around's advice.14:40
qw[russian]=)))14:41
qw[russian]or14:41
qw[russian]i am install OS and i am upgrade OS  befor upgrading OS i laptop restartid During reset simply I don't see loading and a desktop14:43
lordievaderqw[russian]: Ok let's slow things down again. Are you saying that you installed the OS already?14:44
qw[russian]yes but now i am install kubuntu 10.04 LTS14:46
qw[russian]During reset simply I don't see loading and a desktop14:46
qw[russian]omg sorry14:46
lordievaderqw[russian]: What have you installed now then? And why not install 12.04?14:47
qw[russian]Description:    Ubuntu 10.04 LTS *14:47
qw[russian]not install 12.04 because there was a CD disk from 10.04 =)14:48
genii-aroundqw[russian]: I am confident your problem is the same described at https://launchpad.net/bugs/989658  , and you should try in GRUB to put "nomodeset" option.14:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 989658 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Resolution not detected correctly on Intel Mobile 4 series" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:48
qw[russian]and I already am afraid to update system because I can not be loaded again14:48
lordievaderqw[russian]: Have you followed genii-around's advice?14:49
qw[russian]not understand genii-around's advice?14:49
lordievaderqw[russian]: Read the links he posted.14:51
* lordievader brb switching OS. Putty is being annoying.14:51
qw[russian]oh understand sorry14:53
qw[russian])14:53
Peace-i have a strange behavior here14:53
genii-aroundPeace-: What, only one? ;-)14:53
Peace-when i copy text from firefox an i try to paste on terminal ... sometime it doesn't paste the correct stuff14:53
Peace-but the the one have copied before14:53
qw[russian]i am join this  https://launchpad.net/bugs/989658 but i am uses 10.0414:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 989658 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Resolution not detected correctly on Intel Mobile 4 series" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:54
Peace-i paste with crtl shift ins14:54
genii-aroundqw[russian]: The solution is the same for 10.04, 10.10,11.04,11.10,12.04 ... it makes no difference14:54
* lordievader back14:55
Peace-instead with the right click it's all ok14:55
Peace-bah14:55
Peace-genii-around: 12.10 :D?14:55
qw[russian]and openSUSE too?14:55
Peace-qw[russian]: this is kubuntu14:55
lordievaderPeace-: What happens when you use "shift + ins"?14:55
Peace-qw[russian]: which word on this sentence "kubuntu" reminds you to opensuse?14:56
genii-aroundqw[russian]: This is not support for SUSE here14:56
Peace-lordievader: copy a text , then go and open a terminal14:56
qw[russian]http://pastebin.com/5J2Ucie814:56
genii-aroundPeace-: Are you using shift-insert to paste?14:56
Peace-lordievader: type : ctrl shift ins14:56
Peace-genii-around: yea14:57
lordievaderPeace-: Not sure if this is screen/byobu's doing but I get a list of a sorts of things looks like an ls of /bin.14:58
Peace-genii-around: it comes by default with kubuntu and i guess with kde stuff14:58
qw[russian]i am reboot from my PC14:59
genii-aroundHm. And I went to the trouble already: http://goo.gl/9iF6015:03
lordievadergenii-around: Ohh wow, what a service!15:19
lordievaderPeace-: Did you find a solution?15:19
Peace-lordievader: nope i guess i will use ctrl shift v15:20
lordievaderPeace-: The shit + ins also does not work?15:20
lordievaderPeace-: Without the ctrl I mean.15:21
Peace-lordievader: i need to test it15:21
Peace-anyway i will chane my habit15:21
Peace-change15:21
genii-aroundPeace-: I found Klipper was behaving erratically for me sometimes and I don't use it anymore.15:25
lordievadergenii-around: What do you use as a replacement for Klipper?15:27
BluesKajhey genii-around , copy 'n paste in it's various forms works for me , never liked klipper much15:27
genii-aroundlordievader: I don't, for coping I generally highlight with mouse rightclick and choose copy, then in konsole shift-insert15:28
lordievadergenii-around: So just the normal standard way, come to think of it, I rarely use klipper any other way.15:29
Peace-genii-around: ah so i am not the only one then15:30
BluesKaji guess klipper is good for storing previous copied material , but I rarely used it for that anyway15:32
genii-aroundBluesKaj: Thats what I concluded also.15:32
BluesKaji have an odd problem with the networking wizard setting up a ssh network folder , could it be because i have 2 kubuntu partitions on the same drive trying to access our laptop , the wizard succeeds connecting to the laptop from the 12.04 install but not the 12.1015:38
BluesKajaltho i can ssh into the laptopm from both installs ...doesn't make much sense to me15:39
artaohai16:02
artaook .. something very strange is going on here. .. WTF strange ... using Dolphin .. Seems I have lost the ability to drag-n-drop items in the Places Panel to re-order them ... I know 100% for a fact that I USED to be able to do so, as the items are clearly in an order that I personally put them in ... just tried to add a new Places item, and then to drag it where I want it in the list, but the damn thing won't move. It insists on16:03
artaostaying at the bottom of the list ... and yes, the panel is unlocked16:03
artaoWTF!!16:03
artaowhat's going on here? a couple of weeks ago, I ALSO lost the ability to drag-n-drop items in my Kontact To-Do list ... something strange is going on here, seems to me. Slowly losing the ability to drag-n-drop througout my OS is my fear ... ... Kubuntu 12.0416:04
BluesKajartao, yes dolphin seems to arbitrarily decide what order entries are positioned in places , no matter where one puts them16:14
Peace-artao: dolphin now has the ability to put folder in the folder group16:14
artaoi know 100% fact i was able to drag/drop items in there 3 weeks ago16:14
artaowhat the hell happend? O.o16:14
Peace-artao: device link in the device group and soo on16:14
Peace-artao: sudo adduser test16:15
artaowhat? why?16:15
Peace-artao: then login with test16:15
artaoum16:15
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artaou think my login is pooched?16:15
Peace-are you going to die if you try?16:15
Peace-ahhaha16:16
artaono. but adding 'test' user makes me a bit nervous frankly16:16
artaojust feels a bit sketchy16:16
artaoi dunno16:16
Peace-ok dude your problem is not my problem16:16
artaosorry16:16
eliecerhi everyone16:16
eliecersomebody can help me with a error....16:17
artaoi guess really the whole idea of going thru that process (new user, login logout, reboot, try again, etc etc) makes me feel mentally exhausted already Peace-16:18
artaoi was really hoping this was a known issue and there was a simple fix for it16:18
genii-around!details | eliecer16:20
ubottueliecer: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."16:20
genii-aroundeliecer: Please do not private message me, just to tell the channel your issue and you may find assistance.16:25
eliecerkool16:25
eliecerI have a problem with update in my konsole....16:26
eliecerrunning kubuntu 12.04 LTS16:26
eliecerWhen I try to update, I get de following output16:26
eliecerE: Tipo «b» desconocido en la línea 3 de lista de fuentes /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libreoffice-ppa-precise.list16:26
eliecerE: No se pudieron leer las listas de fuentes.16:26
genii-around!pastebin16:26
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:26
eliecerso what can i do for fix the problem16:29
eliecer?16:29
genii-aroundeliecer: The issue seems to be a ppa that you have installed for libreoffice. So I would recommend to remove the ppa from your list.16:35
Peace-artao: reboot?16:38
Peace-artao: ctrl alt f7 and you came bakc to your session , ctrl alt f6 start new session => start new session like test user ::: do your tests => logout from test session => back to your standard user16:39
artaoyah. after homework reading16:39
artaoreally? i can have multiple x-sessions?16:39
artaoah ... no ... i can't have multiple x-sessions ... ctrl-alt-f6 is just a console session like all the other F#s16:42
artao=D16:42
artaoback to homework reading16:42
genii-aroundartao: You can however nest xsessions16:43
genii-aroundWith xephyr or xnest16:43
artaoeh?16:44
artaoi have no idea what you're talking about16:44
genii-aroundartao: eg: You can have a window on your desktop with another entirely different desktop running in it16:47
Peace-artao: Xephyr :1 -screen 640x480 & sleep 3 && export DISPLAY=:1 && startkde16:49
artaohunh16:49
artaointersting16:49
artaokinda scary16:50
Peace-...16:50
Peace- xserver-xephyr this is the package btw16:50
* genii-around slides Peace- a lovely coffee16:50
* Peace- drinks genii-around's coffee16:51
MySystemhello i have a problem with my onboard soundcard, the prob my side speakers and my sub dont get a sig no matter which source, sysinfos: mainboard M4A785TD-V EVO onboard soundchip via vt1708s kubuntu12.04, my trys many mixers, my knowlegde in windows i have from via mixer some options more think the relevant ones are speakerfilling (for the side) and bassmanagment settings for sub , hello blueskaj now i have time for this prob (if you reme17:06
MySystemah forgott something in phonon settings if i test sub the test sound appears for side sadly nothing but cabels and so are good, and its not a digital link to amblifier its a analog with 4xstereo17:15
MySystemback sry dc17:21
lordievaderMySystem: It seems BluesKaj is afk.17:23
MySystemthats no wonder he is here nearly all day it just take some time *smile*17:24
MySystembut if anyone else have an idea to send these settings to my soundcard17:25
MySystem1*sad* my isp is doing something strange i think this isnt the best time to fix this prob with sound,got 2 dc's in 10min i will come back if my isp fixed the prob17:33
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MySystem1ok isp probs seems to be gone i start again: i have a problem with my onboard soundcard, the prob my side speakers and my sub dont get a sig for sub only in phonon speakertest it works side nothing, sysinfos: mainboard M4A785TD-V EVO, onboard soundchip via vt1708s,link to amp is 4xanalog stereo, kubuntu12.04, my trys many mixers, my knowlegde in windows i have from via mixer some options more think the relevant ones are speakerfilling (f18:08
BluesKajMySystem1, so what speaker connection , is it o an amplifier or to the soundcard on the pc?18:10
MySystem1speaker connection analog with 4x stereo to 3 amplifiers and the second i dont understand18:12
BluesKajMySystem1, so your soundcard is connected to 3 analog inputs on an amplifier , correct ?18:16
MySystem1no sound card is connected via 4 stereo cabels to 3 amplifier(2 stereo 1quad)18:17
MySystem1sry if this wasnt clear from my question18:17
BluesKajMySystem1, are there any digital inputs on the amplifiers ?18:20
MySystem1no they are complete analog18:20
MySystem1and sadly dont have a working digital amp to test if i see right what you wanted to try18:22
BluesKajyour 4x stereo setup is confusing , one stereo (L+R) or does that count as 218:25
MySystem1oh sry to have a 7.1 suround system with only analog amplifiers i have a stereo cable for each box pair so one cabel front(l+r) one rear(l+r) one side (l+r) one sub+center so 4 stereo cabels from soundcard to 2 stereo amps and one quad amp18:29
MySystem1blueskaj sry forgett to put this at beginning of message18:29
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BluesKajMySystem1, ok what chip does, alsamixer  , give in the terminal , upper left ?18:36
MySystem1VIA VT1708S18:37
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icy05hey ppl, im a linux noob and need some advice..anyone help me please18:38
icy05need help with screen res before boot and how to edit the grub file before boot18:39
icy05ne1??18:41
icy05p.s google wasnt friendly :/18:42
MySystem1be patient this takes a time to rekognize your question most are here the complete day and so dont look every min on irc18:43
neosimagomy screen keeps blanking out; using kubuntu 12.04 on a T410. Turned off screensaver; any ideas?18:44
neosimagowatching a movie; reading a article; it just goes dark.18:44
MySystem1icy05:and for me i dont understand what you mean with resolution befor boot if you mean grub resolution and your linux starts there is a tool to config grub from kubuntu18:44
neosimagoevery few minutes or so, repeates; move mouse; comes back up18:44
MySystem1neosimago i think  energy saving features18:45
BluesKajMySystem1, which driver ..  cat /proc/asound/modules , in the terminal18:45
neosimagolooked under energy saving features; power management in system settings; nothing to change the behaviour.18:46
icy05mysystem one : thing is once the res is set i cant read it at all  so wanted to know how to edit it and set it manually18:46
neosimagoset it to act like a pc on ac power.18:46
MySystem1blueskaj:  0 snd_hda_intel \n 1 snd_hda_intel18:46
BluesKajVIA technologies uses intelhda drivers?18:48
MySystem1blueskaj: iam not a pro dont know but it sounds strange18:48
MySystem1icy05: how will you edit it if you cant read anything ?or thgis there a place or way to read ?18:49
icy05mysystem1: heance before boot :)18:50
neosimagoMySystem1: i need another idea other than energy saving features; it's just blanking out every minute.18:51
BluesKajMySystem1, I usually don't recommend pppl buy new hardware , but in your case I doubt the onboard souncard and driver is capable of serving 7.1 discrete signals toy yuor amps , a sound system like that actaully needs a separate soundacrd with separate/discrete analog outputs to you amps18:51
icy05:mysystem1: or i can ctrl+alt+f4 brings me to a console but i dont know many commands lol18:51
MySystem1neosimago:iam a bit out of ideas cant imagine what happens there but as i said iam not a pro18:52
MySystem1icy05 ah so your kde has wrong resolution18:52
icy05mysystem1: yeh, sorry should have just said that lol18:53
BluesKajneosimago, open system settings >display and monitor ..set your screensaver to 180 mins or so , so it won't blank your screen during a movie18:53
MySystem1blueskaj yes this my soundcard has 4 seperated analog outputs and for imformation in windows it works fine18:53
neosimagoBluesKaj: i don't believe it's the screensaver; it just blanks out because the screensaver is set to a pattern.18:54
BluesKajset t he timer on the screensaver , and make sure your power management>dim display is st to the same time18:55
BluesKajneosimago,^18:55
MySystem1icy05 i have an idea but not sure it works and not sure if you damage your xorg and wont have any picture18:56
MySystem1icy05 there can be a config file that where its possible to set resolutions18:57
BluesKajMySystem1, do you have all the outputs turned up in alsamixer and kmix18:57
icy05mysystem1 : that would be in the grub.conf file wouldnt it?? just dont know how to edit and save changes18:58
MySystem1icy05 its located /etc/X11/xorg.conf backup it if it exist with cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak and then edit it with a editor like nano or vi (no garantie)18:59
MySystem1blueskajyes output are all pu for the speaker outputs wait a take a screen19:00
icy05mysystem 1 ill give it a crack, thanks19:03
MySystem1crack? ~ try?19:04
MySystem1blueskaj what was the site to paste images?19:05
BluesKajimagebin.org MySystem119:07
MySystem1http://imagebin.org/22930019:08
MySystem1the last which is missing on screen is the rearmic again19:08
OerHeksmake the terminal larger :-)19:09
MySystem1yes next time *smile*19:09
MySystem1yes saw it after paste19:09
BluesKajMySystem1, so you have no audio on your side or sub , correct ?19:15
BluesKajhave you installed pavucontrol for your soundcard, it might help19:16
MySystem1yes19:16
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MySystem1blueskaj yes you already gave me this tip but the prog doesnt show any new19:19
MySystem1options19:19
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MySystem1the point is that this is right what the soundcard does (only the missing test signal on side) because without the bassmanagment settings the sub isnt used and without the speakerfilling options side is dead until i have a 7.1 audio source19:24
MySystem1oh blueskaj19:24
MySystem1but what to do to get those options19:26
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BluesKajMySystem1, so you expect your soundcard to emulate 7.1 when there' only a 5.1 signal available...not even my DD and DTS capable amplifier can do that without using dolby pro logic mode , which may be available with a software app for the audio on your pc , but I havent looked for one19:29
BluesKajMySystem1, I think you windows driver has that capability but Linux drivers are more direct and don't come with other emulators builtin19:31
MySystem1blueskaj no its the via hdaudiodeck which has this options windows also dont know this options zthey are only in the special mixer from via19:32
MySystem1and yes the speakerfilling is like that what your digital amp does19:34
BluesKajyes , MySystem1 that's part of the windows driver software ...wife has a similar capability on her diamond audio card19:34
MySystem1blueskaj ok so how do i get this driver specific options in my linux19:35
qw__help my please19:36
MySystem1mp3 quali is bad but without bassmanagment its truly poor19:36
MySystem1with what qw_19:36
qw__i am delete my control panel19:36
qw__help me please restored19:36
MySystem1you mean the kde system settings or the taskbar19:36
qw__in windows control panel name Start19:37
MySystem1thats easy19:37
BluesKajMySystem1, maybe there's a better linux driver for your audio card that contains those options, Alsa sees the 7.1 but can't supply audio from the other channels19:37
qw__were is system settings ?19:37
MySystem1qw_ rightklick your desktop and klick add kontrollpane (or how its called in english) und the menu that comes select default contorl pane19:38
BluesKajqw__, alt+f2 systemsettings19:39
qw_done create control panel19:39
qw_BluesKaj yes19:40
BluesKajadd panel19:40
qw_were?19:41
MySystem1blueskaj yes because this is hardwares work to fill the sound to all speakers, a better linux driver you said and previusly you said that used driver is intel this sounds like a way but how to change the driver19:41
BluesKajqw_, desktop settings as MySystem1 suggested19:41
qw_i am create19:41
qw_but i am no see default control pane19:42
qw_panel *19:42
BluesKajMySystem1, do some research to find one , there might be a better driver , not sure19:42
MySystem1qw_ oh for my it was at desktop rightlick add panel but its not so bad just click on your empty panel and add the things you want like startmenu systemcontroll and so19:43
qw_^(19:43
qw_but i like defaul panel befor install system19:44
BluesKajqw_, did you see the default panel option when you clicked on add panel ?19:45
MySystem1blueskaj i hope and would  but i dont no where to search for what and how a sound driver look like in linux, and also want to check if my linux realy uses an intel driver for my via chip because if it is so i just have to switch to the right19:46
qw_now add kubuntu start up19:46
qw_but i am hide IRC i am not see IRC in panel19:47
MySystem1click through your 4 desktops it can be thats the option to only show which is on this desktop19:47
BluesKajMySystem1, lspci -v | grep -i snd , just to make sure19:48
qw_i am not understand (19:48
MySystem1ok now iam sure its the wrong driver  4 entrys 2xdriver &modules and all with snd_hda_intel19:49
qw_YES YES YES19:51
qw_i am understand19:51
qw_Thank You very mutch )19:51
MySystem1ah good dont know how write it in anaother way19:51
MySystem1blueskaj this command printes kernel driver and modules so how is my driver selected and how can i change this selection19:53
qw_but19:54
MySystem1because i think its just a fail select and if i choose one of the via drivers and with a bit luck the right or something compatible it will work19:54
qw_i am not see wodget "connect from my network"?19:55
MySystem1you mean networkmanager in systemcontroll next to startmenu?19:55
MySystem1qw_19:55
qw_my kubuntu is russian please russian =)19:56
MySystem1oh that will be very hard to translate from german to english to russian19:56
BluesKajMySystem1, pastebin the output of lspci -v | grep -i snd , please19:56
qw_=)19:56
MySystem1http://pastebin.com/hVmThrNZ19:57
MySystem1qw_ do you have the widget where the networkmanager sould be ?19:57
BluesKajqw_, alt+f2 , networkmanager19:57
qw_didn't start (19:58
MySystem1qw_ i think its already runnninng but not listed in systemicons19:59
MySystem1for check if running ctrl+esc and enter net or write it complete20:00
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MySystem1qw_ do you already have this systemnotify widget in your panel?20:00
qw_befor delete penael widget used20:01
BluesKajqw do you see the little cashew/half moon icon on the right end of the panel , click that and choose add widgets20:02
BluesKajqw_,^20:02
qw_in right click for control panel i see Settings Widgets "Control panel" second: Settings Widget "Panel"  3- : Delete widget "Control Panel"20:04
qw_addd20:05
qw_add 820:05
qw_i am add thanks20:05
qw_Thank you Boy's =)20:05
MySystem1np have fun with your kde20:08
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MySystem1blueskaj is it ok the end this for today think its a good point because now i know that i have to look in the driver and kernel direction to get those missing hardware options and my attention is falling because of 22:23 oclock here20:23
BluesKajok , but I think the intel hda diver is the only one available . MySystem120:25
MySystem1oh that would be bad for a new soundcard i dont have the money20:26
MySystem1i keep looking foward this had to work *smile*20:26
MySystem1thx for your help again *smile* you are realy one of the best here i know have a nice day20:27
BluesKajok , take care , MySystem120:28
MySystem1all other also a nice day till then20:28
UhYo20:43
UhAnyone here?20:43
BluesKajuh  ..yeah20:44
UhWanna help me remove all passwords completely from ubuntu? I can't find a fix for it anywhere20:44
BluesKajsorry , I don't know how20:45
Uhgay20:45
oliviersalut le peuple20:55
oliviery'a de la france?20:55
BluesKaj!fr | olivier20:55
ubottuolivier: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.20:55
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ali_firefox is dangerous21:26
ali_use google chrome ((becouse it more simple))21:27
ali_hello all cyber mans21:27
Daz646Hi21:34
Daz646Ali i just literally installed firefox as im new to linux. Why is firefox dangerous?21:35
mindVVinddid you see ?21:35
mindVVindBloomberg21:35
mindVVindby his logo))21:36
mindVVindfox is firebeast21:37
mindVVindso why you use linux??21:37
mindVVindI use linux too//21:38
mindVVind/ end I am happy sometimes..21:38
mindVVind..=W=21:39
mindVVindthis is my logo))21:39
mindVVind..did you know that wanilaBSD maybe some better ??21:41
mindVVinddaz646 there are you frome??21:43
mindVVindDaz646 are you need in 3d model of you??))21:44
Daz646Hey mate sorry was on the phone.21:44
mindVVind0k21:44
cielakhello everyone22:14
cielakI have a simple question22:14
cielakI have not used KDE much and Kubuntu in particular22:14
cielakbut while working on an Ubuntu app to make it work on other Ubuntu flavours too22:15
cielakI was wondering whether GTK+ apps are installable in KDE22:15
tsimpsonyes, of course22:15
cielakI mean: do people tend to avoid GNOME/GTK applications on Kubuntu, because they pull in thousands of dependencies?22:15
cielakI expect them to require lots of gtk runtime libraries to be installed, right?22:16
tsimpsonGnome applications still pull in Gnome libs, but Kubuntu comes with the GTK+ libraries anyway, so pure GTK+ apps are not so bad22:16
genii-aroundMost people I know are at least usually already running Firefox on their KDE anyhow.22:17
cielakoh, that's not that bad, then22:17
sithlord48whats up #kubuntu ?22:17
tsimpsonthe reverse is also true, Ubuntu comes with Qt libraries, but full not KDE libraries22:17
mindVVindBut the best Kstars!!22:18
mindVVindsorry22:18
cielakyeah, I am familiar with the reverse case22:18
mindVVindHow to see BSD filesystem under linux??22:18
cielakas installing KDE apps on standard Ubuntu pulls in thousands megabytes of libraries22:18
sithlord48mindVVind:  what file system?22:19
mindVVindKDE the best it is simple22:19
genii-aroundProbably UFS/ZFS22:19
cielakbut if that's not that annoying in case of GTK apps on Kubuntu, then I think I can consider the application to be runable on Kubuntu too ;)22:19
mindVVindI dont know too22:19
sithlord48do we not have an included driver for that ?22:19
cielakthanks tsimpson! :)22:19
mindVVindI install it(ВSD) from graf installer22:20
sithlord48do you recive a popup for it when you plug it in ? or see it in dolphin's places?22:21
mindVVindof course22:21
mindVVindit is a great22:21
genii-aroundmindVVind: Probably ufsutils will install the correct support.22:22
sithlord48https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS/ <- perhaps help you ?22:22
mindVVindI have no choise22:25
mindVVindthis  is truble miracle22:25
mindVVindbut Thanks - I never see someThinngs le thiS22:26
genii-aroundmindVVind: I just checked, the default filesystem for FBSD is still UFS ( I thought they may have switched in recent releases to ZFS but it seems not ). The package called ufsutils will install the needed driver for you to mount and fsck those drives.22:28
mindVVindend that ZFS better then UFS??22:29
genii-aroundmindVVind: Yes, but ZFS is still proprietary to Sun22:30
mindVVindin russia many many days flow without Sun((22:43
drbobbhey it looks like the upgrade of my 11.10 to 12.04 just failed22:52
drbobbit stopped at 'setting up memtest86+' and is not progressing any further22:53
drbobbyep the updater seems to be dead23:00
drbobbgrub-probe: error: unknown filesystem.23:00
drbobbwtf23:01
drbobbI guess that leaves me with a broken system23:02
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