[00:21] <ScottyK> greetings! On a fresh dual boot system, win7 runs fine, but the Kubuntu side has a severe lag. keys are slow to respond, and mouse clicks take a while to function. Went to recovery mode and downloaded all updates.
[00:27] <monkeyjuice> have you run update and upgrade? ScottyK
[00:27] <ScottyK> monkeyjuice - yes, via the command line
[00:28] <monkeyjuice> 12.04?
[00:28] <ScottyK> yes - 12.04.1 (64 bit)
[00:29] <monkeyjuice> do you know what video card you have
[00:30] <ScottyK> Nvidia GEForce 8600 GS
[00:31] <monkeyjuice> http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58471-Nvidia-Drivers  ScottyK maybe some help heree
[00:33] <ScottyK> monkeyjuice - thanks! I'll give this a try...
[00:33] <monkeyjuice> ok good luck to ya
[00:34] <ScottyK> Oh yeah, still running the default driver (non-nvidia)
[00:34] <ScottyK> havn't activated the nvidia driver yet
[00:34] <monkeyjuice> ya could be then
[00:53] <michaelc22> question with kubuntu it wont let me copyy and paste from kubuntu to a virtual box i have windows 7 in vb is these any settings for this?
[01:12] <michaelc22> question with kubuntu it wont let me copyy and paste from kubuntu to a virtual box i have windows 7 in vb is there any settings for this?
[01:17] <mparillo> Not sure about virtual box, but in VMWare, you generally want to install VMWare tools for smoother experience. Perhaps Virtual Box has something similar?
[01:20] <mparillo> Which is the host and which is the guest?
[01:22] <SIR_Taco_> michaelc22: CTRL-SHIFT-V and CTRL-SHIFT-C (paste/copy) should work
[01:32] <Enrique> can tell me some one something about of kde5?
[01:33] <Enrique> somebody tell me something about of kde5_
[01:33] <Enrique> ?
[01:36] <SIR_Taco_> Enrique: not sure there is a current KDE5 plan
[01:37] <SIR_Taco_> Enrique: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.9_Feature_Plan maybe when this list is finished?
[01:38] <Enrique> i was read about that n i want to know something
[01:40] <Enrique> tanks guys
[02:00] <wendell> algum brasileiro?
[04:23] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[04:31] <thechef> What's the difference of Alt+F2 and the Kickoff-"Anwendungsstarter"?
[04:36] <thechef> I think I can replace the Kickoff- safely with the classic one so I don't just have shortcuts, search and search, but shortcuts search and exploration
[06:17] <willie_> strange problem - since updating last night my mouse is "auto-scrolling"
[06:17] <willie_> I have changed mice but still same behaviour
[06:17] <willie_> after much faffing I got into system settings | Hardware|input|mouse and set scroll to 1 line per click which helps but not much. I dont see anything I have inadvertently changed in there
[06:18] <willie_> makes  viewing web pages very difficult because the links keep scrolling away from you
[06:18] <willie_> if I dont move the mouse off the active window it just keeps scrolling upwards. I have restarted X, rebooted and done a complete power cycle several times but the weirdness persists
[06:30] <hateball> willie_: if you run "xev", do you see it registering the scrollwheel even if you dont touch it?
[06:31] <willie_> hateball: I'll try that - thx
[06:32] <hateball> willie_: just another thing to use to troubleshoot I guess :)
[06:34] <jjshabs> would it be better for me to post sound issues i'm having with my CK804 onboard on kubuntu12.04
[06:34] <jjshabs> onto the forums, or does in here work ?
[06:35] <hateball> !ask
[06:35] <willie_> hateball: never run xev before so not sure what is "normal"  I see a black square top left that does not seem to respond to anything - however I have LOTS of console output
[06:36] <hateball> willie_: if you place the cursor over it, and just let it rest there it should not do anything. It displays hardware input. Try unplugging the mouse and see if it persists
[06:36] <willie_> I 'll try pasting some but its very difficult to get and maintain focus
[06:36] <jjshabs> 12.04 kubuntu install fails to recognise my Nvidia onboard audio, CK804. This could possibly be due to a conflict with my radeon gfx card's hdmi port - as this appeared in the 10.04.3lts release.
[06:37] <willie_> hateball: OK
[06:38] <willie_> now the mouse is moving on its own to the top -left
[06:38] <hateball> Without being physically plugged in?
[06:38] <willie_> it was doing this before but stopped after a power cycle - Im suspecting mobo problems
[06:38] <jjshabs> BIOS setting for onboard audio: enabled. alsa or pulse both unable to detect. Kde ends up removing these devices. How to rectify this, or appropriately file a bug is what i'm after.
[06:38] <willie_> which is a bummer cos its just >1yr old
[06:39] <willie_> no sorry it is till pluggedin - removing now
[06:39] <hateball> willie_: Unplugging it should quiet xev, assuming it's a hardware error. You could try a different USB port, if you have any spare
[06:40] <willie_> OK mouse disppears but still lots of output to console
[06:41] <willie_> Im into a 10 port powerd hub , time to crawl under desk and use a "real" usb socket
[06:43] <willie_> no -still the same when I plug into the back of the box
[06:43] <hateball> willie_: Do you still have the USB hub plugged in tho?
[06:43] <Smurphy> Morning.
[06:43] <willie_> ah.....
[06:43] <hateball> willie_: If possible, try to unplug as many peripherals as possible
[06:44] <hateball> willie_: So you just have the computer and your input devices
[06:44] <willie_> yes its this hub -- thanks :-)
[06:44] <hateball> :)
[06:44] <willie_> time for the bin and a better quality one of Ebay -- thanks :-)
[06:45] <hateball> Maybe power cycling the hub sorts it out, but yeah... getting a reliable one is probably better :(
[06:45] <hateball> :)
[06:45] <willie_> it was only 6quid or so IIRC
[06:45] <willie_> it was driving me insane last night
[06:46] <hateball> First rule of troubleshooting: unplug *all* the things ;D
[07:23] <aperson> err, 12
[09:17] <phoenix_firebrd> I having problem with nvidia proprietary driver, it is not getting loaded
[09:18] <phoenix_firebrd> xorg log http://paste.kde.org/554090/
[09:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:25] <lordievader> phoenix_firebrd: How did you install the driver?
[09:25] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: good morning, I installed using jockey
[09:26] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: I switched from internal intel graphics to nvidia
[09:26] <lordievader> phoenix_firebrd: I see, and the nVidia control panel complains about the driver not being loaded?
[09:27] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: ya
[09:27] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: I have been tinkering with the files
[09:27] <lordievader> phoenix_firebrd: Is there in your bios a setting for the default graphics card?
[09:28] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: ya, its set to peg
[09:28] <lordievader> phoenix_firebrd: Peg? Another thing does the jockey say the card/driver is activated?
[09:29] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: peg is pci express graphics i guess. Yes jockey says the driver is activated but not being used
[09:30] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: nvidia-settings complains that the driver is not loaded
[09:30] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: http://paste.kde.org/554090/
[09:30] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: thats the xorg log
[09:30] <phoenix_firebrd> there is a problem with the module loading path
[09:30] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: its pointing to wrong location
[09:32] <lordievader> phoenix_firebrd: I see, have you tried re-installing the driver?
[09:32] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: ya
[09:33] <lordievader> phoenix_firebrd: What fps do you get when running glxgears?
[09:34] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: i am getting this when i run glxgears "Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[09:34] <phoenix_firebrd> "
[09:36] <lordievader> phoenix_firebrd: That is odd. Have you read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37084/nvidia-driver-activated-but-currently-not-in-use
[09:39] <lordievader> phoenix_firebrd: That reminds me, have you run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"?
[09:40] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: ya
[09:40] <lordievader> phoenix_firebrd: And rebooted too, I take it.
[09:40] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: the card is detected "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G96 [GeForce 9400 GT] (rev a1)"
[09:44] <lordievader> phoenix_firebrd: Perhaps this is helpfull, it is for an even older card though: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126905/nvidia-driver-cannot-be-installed-with-jockey-for-old-hardware
[09:44] <lordievader> phoenix_firebrd: The only other thing I can think of is uninstalling the driver and manually installing the driver.
[09:46] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: I am going to try a solution i found in a webpage, i will be back after a restart
[10:09] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: found a solution here, going to try that
[10:09] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=147983
[10:10] <lordievader> phoenix_firebrd: Good luck!
[10:14] <phoenix_firebrd> lordievader: I have to go now, thanks for the support
[10:33] <avihay> think there will be an ubuntu 12.04.2?
[10:49] <lale> hi
[10:51] <thechef> avihay: why not?
[10:52] <avihay> cause 12.10 is round da corner
[10:52] <hateball> !lts
[10:52] <thechef> !14.04
[10:53] <thechef> Is 14.04 also 5 years supported on the desktop?
[10:54] <hateball> who knows, it's quite a while til it gets released :)
[10:58] <thechef> I thought of ignoring 12.04 and switching from 10.04.4 directly to 14.04.1, I guess I'd be more than one year without security updates then, but doesn't matter because no one else is doing that..
[11:02] <hateball> If you're on 10.04 I'd upgrade to 12.04 anyhow, KDE is a *lot* better over here ;)
[11:02] <thechef> but I think I can switch directly from 10.04 to 12.04, because thanks to switching from Gnome to KDE and after some waves of bug fixes and the general development which seems to be faster in the KDE area, Ubuntu 12.04 will probably recover soon enough until EOL of 120.04
[11:02] <thechef> *of 10.04
[11:03] <thechef> ah, sure, but 10.04 GNOME is much better than 12.04 Unity :-)
[11:03] <hateball> Perhaps, I wouldnt know
[11:04] <thechef> I've never seen such an imprecise, slow and messy desktop like Unity
[11:05] <thechef> sorry.. :-( neverending anger, even though I switched to KDE
[11:08] <hateball> thechef: that's what !ot is for ;p
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:12] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj, how are you?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> hi lordievader , fine thanks , and you ?
[12:17] <lordievader> BluesKaj: I'm doing good, it's my free day :)
[12:21] <BluesKaj> ok , we call it a "day off "here
[12:23] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Ah, yes, well that :)
[12:42] <javinho> hello guys, i use kubuntu 32 bits and work perfect 10 month,  but now change to 64 bits by one friend coment me kubuntu 64 run perfect without problems, but i install kubuntu 64 bits and in 1 mounth view many bugs reported... all distro 64 bits are the same?
[12:42] <RamchandraApte> 64-bit kubuntu is working absolutely fine for me
[12:42] <RamchandraApte> with a about 1-2 bugs
[12:42] <javinho> mmm not bug in flash player (firefox)?
[12:43] <RamchandraApte> i use chrome
[12:43] <RamchandraApte> oops
[12:43] <RamchandraApte> i use chromium
[12:43] <javinho> ok, understand
[12:43] <RamchandraApte> flash player will not be available for linux anymore
[12:44] <RamchandraApte> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/03/31/1417245/adobe-releases-last-linux-version-of-flash-player
[12:44] <javinho> firefox have problems in open folder donwloaded and flash player two: (change blue to red images (repair ok), crashed (not know what is the problem)
[12:45] <javinho> Ram, i recent intall chrome
[12:45] <RamchandraApte> ok
[12:45] <javinho> and youtube work good, but i dont like use time to find and repair errors, need the cpu to work...
[12:45] <javinho> is better return to 32 bits?
[12:46] <RamchandraApte> flash player is supported for 64-bit linux
[12:46] <RamchandraApte> you can try kubuntu 32-bit in a VM to see the difference
[12:47] <javinho> mmm i before in this cpu have installed kubuntu 32-bits and work perfect
[12:47] <javinho> before? mmm after..
[12:47] <javinho> nuu... before xD
[12:48] <RamchandraApte> youtube can use html5
[12:48] <RamchandraApte> firefox supports html5
[12:48] <RamchandraApte> http://www.youtube.com/html5
[12:48] <javinho> ah, this is a problem think
[12:49] <javinho> mmm the stragne is  flash start crashing i try change the blue to red in youtube movies...
[12:49] <javinho> http://www.lacosaestamuymal.com/2012/03/videos-de-youtube-se-ven-en-azul-con.html
[12:50] <javinho> this is the solution but, next this solution, many popups open in browser
[12:51] <javinho> and install the block popups in firefox and flash plugin dont work (next tri disable the block popups but continue not working)
[12:51] <javinho> i dont block youtube
[12:52] <javinho> youtube working fine first but 1 min or two crash
[12:52] <javinho> or i change time in video
[12:53] <javinho> ok, i try whait one mount more to test, i need exit to dinner, ty RamchandraApte for response
[12:59] <BluesKaj> i was going to suggest ia32-libs-multiarch , but he left
[13:00] <BluesKaj> sounds like he has some conf files that are acting up
[13:00] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: ia32-libs-multiarch is broken on precise ;)
[13:01] <BluesKaj> oops , shadeslayer
[13:01] <BluesKaj> . glad he wasn't here
[13:01] <shadeslayer> for every time you think you need ia32-libs, think again, and install the required libs by hand
[13:01] <shadeslayer> that's what I do :)
[13:01] <hateball> :D
[13:04] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, I haven't had to install ia32libs for a while
[13:05] <george_> Hello. I had to delete ~/.kde because of segmentation faults. Everything is ok, except that events created with KOrganizer are not showing on my calendar. Any ideas? Thanks.
[13:06] <Smurphy> george_: yes - you deleted the events with KOrganizer - as they were probably under ~/.kde.
[13:07] <george_> Smurphy: no, they are still at KOrganizer's agenda, timeline, the problem is that they don't appear at panel calendar.
[13:11] <george_> Anyone, any ideas?
[13:17] <Smurphy> george_: Hmmm. Dunno then
[13:31] <george_> I guess, I'll have to post at KDE or Kubuntu forums'...
[13:42] <qw[russian]> hello all
[13:43] <qw[russian]> help me please i would like install panel in WIndows this name is RocketDock and Linux ?;(
[13:47] <Peace-> qw[russian]: you can't
[13:47] <Peace-> qw[russian]: there is daisy
[13:48] <Peace-> daisy plasma widget
[13:48] <21WAAI8X9> `you can use icon task manager in plasma (std)
[13:49] <qw[russian]> help me please install Plagin in my firefox
[14:16] <qw[russian]> Explain to me please why when I want to establish openSUSE or Ubuntu on the laptop (acer eMachines g725) at me dies away the screen and I not that don't see that occurs
[14:21] <lordievader> !russian | qw[russian]
[14:22] <qw[russian]> but i am speak English too )
[14:22] <spexi> :D
[14:23] <spexi> I think lordievader thought russian may still be better for you :)
[14:23] <lordievader> qw[russian]: Yes I know, however I didn't understand the question, hence me refering to the russian room.
[14:23] <qw[russian]> =) do you speak russian?
[14:24] <lordievader> qw[russian]: Me or spexi?
[14:24] <spexi> I don't
[14:24] <lordievader> I'd be surprised if I did speak russian.
[14:24] <qw[russian]> lordievader, you
[14:25] <genii-around> According to specs of the g725 it uses Intel Mobile 4 Series video, I would suspect that to be likely the issue of the screen not working if it is doing this during an install.
[14:25] <spexi> lordievader: not even when totally drunk? :D
[14:26] <lordievader> spexi: I rarely am totally drunk, so I don't really know. Perhaps, but I don't find it likely.
[14:26] <spexi> okay :)
[14:27] <qw[russian]> well I am paraphrased: when I try to establish openSUSE or Ubuntu on the laptop (acer eMachines g725) at me goes out the screen and I not that don't see that occurs
[14:30] <lordievader> qw[russian]: Still I am not sure what you are asking. What are you trying to establish, a connection? Or are you asking why the screen goes out when you do something?
[14:30] <qw[russian]> ohhh
[14:31] <qw[russian]> o my God )
[14:31] <lordievader> qw[russian]: Getting impatient isn't going to help you.
[14:33] <lordievader> qw[russian]: So let's try again when you have calmed down. Try to explain your problem again.
[14:33] <qw[russian]> okey
[14:33] <qw[russian]> one min please
[14:34] <qw[russian]> I try to install openSUSE, or Ubuntu on the laptop (eMachines g725 maple)
[14:35] <qw[russian]> up to this point everything is clear?
[14:35] <lordievader> qw[russian]: Yes.
[14:35] <qw[russian]> at installation above the specified systems my monitor goes out and doesn't join
[14:36] <qw[russian]> you understand ?
[14:37] <genii-around> !nomodeset
[14:37] <lordievader> qw[russian]: I think so, you are trying to install the OS, from a live-cd I presume? Does the monitor go out before you have started the installation process or during?
[14:37] <genii-around> bug 989658
[14:39] <qw[russian]> befor set language
[14:40] <lordievader> qw[russian]: Follow genii-around's advice.
[14:41] <qw[russian]> =)))
[14:41] <qw[russian]> or
[14:43] <qw[russian]> i am install OS and i am upgrade OS  befor upgrading OS i laptop restartid During reset simply I don't see loading and a desktop
[14:44] <lordievader> qw[russian]: Ok let's slow things down again. Are you saying that you installed the OS already?
[14:46] <qw[russian]> yes but now i am install kubuntu 10.04 LTS
[14:46] <qw[russian]> During reset simply I don't see loading and a desktop
[14:46] <qw[russian]> omg sorry
[14:47] <lordievader> qw[russian]: What have you installed now then? And why not install 12.04?
[14:47] <qw[russian]> Description:    Ubuntu 10.04 LTS *
[14:48] <qw[russian]> not install 12.04 because there was a CD disk from 10.04 =)
[14:48] <genii-around> qw[russian]: I am confident your problem is the same described at https://launchpad.net/bugs/989658  , and you should try in GRUB to put "nomodeset" option.
[14:48] <qw[russian]> and I already am afraid to update system because I can not be loaded again
[14:49] <lordievader> qw[russian]: Have you followed genii-around's advice?
[14:49] <qw[russian]> not understand genii-around's advice?
[14:51] <lordievader> qw[russian]: Read the links he posted.
[14:51]  * lordievader brb switching OS. Putty is being annoying.
[14:53] <qw[russian]> oh understand sorry
[14:53] <qw[russian]> )
[14:53] <Peace-> i have a strange behavior here
[14:53] <genii-around> Peace-: What, only one? ;-)
[14:53] <Peace-> when i copy text from firefox an i try to paste on terminal ... sometime it doesn't paste the correct stuff
[14:53] <Peace-> but the the one have copied before
[14:54] <qw[russian]> i am join this  https://launchpad.net/bugs/989658 but i am uses 10.04
[14:54] <Peace-> i paste with crtl shift ins
[14:54] <genii-around> qw[russian]: The solution is the same for 10.04, 10.10,11.04,11.10,12.04 ... it makes no difference
[14:55]  * lordievader back
[14:55] <Peace-> instead with the right click it's all ok
[14:55] <Peace-> bah
[14:55] <Peace-> genii-around: 12.10 :D?
[14:55] <qw[russian]> and openSUSE too?
[14:55] <Peace-> qw[russian]: this is kubuntu
[14:55] <lordievader> Peace-: What happens when you use "shift + ins"?
[14:56] <Peace-> qw[russian]: which word on this sentence "kubuntu" reminds you to opensuse?
[14:56] <genii-around> qw[russian]: This is not support for SUSE here
[14:56] <Peace-> lordievader: copy a text , then go and open a terminal
[14:56] <qw[russian]> http://pastebin.com/5J2Ucie8
[14:56] <genii-around> Peace-: Are you using shift-insert to paste?
[14:56] <Peace-> lordievader: type : ctrl shift ins
[14:57] <Peace-> genii-around: yea
[14:58] <lordievader> Peace-: Not sure if this is screen/byobu's doing but I get a list of a sorts of things looks like an ls of /bin.
[14:58] <Peace-> genii-around: it comes by default with kubuntu and i guess with kde stuff
[14:59] <qw[russian]> i am reboot from my PC
[15:03] <genii-around> Hm. And I went to the trouble already: http://goo.gl/9iF60
[15:19] <lordievader> genii-around: Ohh wow, what a service!
[15:19] <lordievader> Peace-: Did you find a solution?
[15:20] <Peace-> lordievader: nope i guess i will use ctrl shift v
[15:20] <lordievader> Peace-: The shit + ins also does not work?
[15:21] <lordievader> Peace-: Without the ctrl I mean.
[15:21] <Peace-> lordievader: i need to test it
[15:21] <Peace-> anyway i will chane my habit
[15:21] <Peace-> change
[15:25] <genii-around> Peace-: I found Klipper was behaving erratically for me sometimes and I don't use it anymore.
[15:27] <lordievader> genii-around: What do you use as a replacement for Klipper?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> hey genii-around , copy 'n paste in it's various forms works for me , never liked klipper much
[15:28] <genii-around> lordievader: I don't, for coping I generally highlight with mouse rightclick and choose copy, then in konsole shift-insert
[15:29] <lordievader> genii-around: So just the normal standard way, come to think of it, I rarely use klipper any other way.
[15:30] <Peace-> genii-around: ah so i am not the only one then
[15:32] <BluesKaj> i guess klipper is good for storing previous copied material , but I rarely used it for that anyway
[15:32] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Thats what I concluded also.
[15:38] <BluesKaj> i have an odd problem with the networking wizard setting up a ssh network folder , could it be because i have 2 kubuntu partitions on the same drive trying to access our laptop , the wizard succeeds connecting to the laptop from the 12.04 install but not the 12.10
[15:39] <BluesKaj> altho i can ssh into the laptopm from both installs ...doesn't make much sense to me
[16:02] <artao> hai
[16:03] <artao> ok .. something very strange is going on here. .. WTF strange ... using Dolphin .. Seems I have lost the ability to drag-n-drop items in the Places Panel to re-order them ... I know 100% for a fact that I USED to be able to do so, as the items are clearly in an order that I personally put them in ... just tried to add a new Places item, and then to drag it where I want it in the list, but the damn thing won't move. It insists on
[16:03] <artao> staying at the bottom of the list ... and yes, the panel is unlocked
[16:03] <artao> WTF!!
[16:04] <artao> what's going on here? a couple of weeks ago, I ALSO lost the ability to drag-n-drop items in my Kontact To-Do list ... something strange is going on here, seems to me. Slowly losing the ability to drag-n-drop througout my OS is my fear ... ... Kubuntu 12.04
[16:14] <BluesKaj> artao, yes dolphin seems to arbitrarily decide what order entries are positioned in places , no matter where one puts them
[16:14] <Peace-> artao: dolphin now has the ability to put folder in the folder group
[16:14] <artao> i know 100% fact i was able to drag/drop items in there 3 weeks ago
[16:14] <artao> what the hell happend? O.o
[16:14] <Peace-> artao: device link in the device group and soo on
[16:15] <Peace-> artao: sudo adduser test
[16:15] <artao> what? why?
[16:15] <Peace-> artao: then login with test
[16:15] <artao> um
[16:15] <artao> u think my login is pooched?
[16:15] <Peace-> are you going to die if you try?
[16:16] <Peace-> ahhaha
[16:16] <artao> no. but adding 'test' user makes me a bit nervous frankly
[16:16] <artao> just feels a bit sketchy
[16:16] <artao> i dunno
[16:16] <Peace-> ok dude your problem is not my problem
[16:16] <artao> sorry
[16:16] <eliecer> hi everyone
[16:17] <eliecer> somebody can help me with a error....
[16:18] <artao> i guess really the whole idea of going thru that process (new user, login logout, reboot, try again, etc etc) makes me feel mentally exhausted already Peace-
[16:18] <artao> i was really hoping this was a known issue and there was a simple fix for it
[16:20] <genii-around> !details | eliecer
[16:25] <genii-around> eliecer: Please do not private message me, just to tell the channel your issue and you may find assistance.
[16:25] <eliecer> kool
[16:26] <eliecer> I have a problem with update in my konsole....
[16:26] <eliecer> running kubuntu 12.04 LTS
[16:26] <eliecer> When I try to update, I get de following output
[16:26] <eliecer> E: Tipo «b» desconocido en la línea 3 de lista de fuentes /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libreoffice-ppa-precise.list
[16:26] <eliecer> E: No se pudieron leer las listas de fuentes.
[16:26] <genii-around> !pastebin
[16:29] <eliecer> so what can i do for fix the problem
[16:29] <eliecer> ?
[16:35] <genii-around> eliecer: The issue seems to be a ppa that you have installed for libreoffice. So I would recommend to remove the ppa from your list.
[16:38] <Peace-> artao: reboot?
[16:39] <Peace-> artao: ctrl alt f7 and you came bakc to your session , ctrl alt f6 start new session => start new session like test user ::: do your tests => logout from test session => back to your standard user
[16:39] <artao> yah. after homework reading
[16:39] <artao> really? i can have multiple x-sessions?
[16:42] <artao> ah ... no ... i can't have multiple x-sessions ... ctrl-alt-f6 is just a console session like all the other F#s
[16:42] <artao> =D
[16:42] <artao> back to homework reading
[16:43] <genii-around> artao: You can however nest xsessions
[16:43] <genii-around> With xephyr or xnest
[16:44] <artao> eh?
[16:44] <artao> i have no idea what you're talking about
[16:47] <genii-around> artao: eg: You can have a window on your desktop with another entirely different desktop running in it
[16:49] <Peace-> artao: Xephyr :1 -screen 640x480 & sleep 3 && export DISPLAY=:1 && startkde
[16:49] <artao> hunh
[16:49] <artao> intersting
[16:50] <artao> kinda scary
[16:50] <Peace-> ...
[16:50] <Peace->  xserver-xephyr this is the package btw
[16:50]  * genii-around slides Peace- a lovely coffee
[16:51]  * Peace- drinks genii-around's coffee
[17:06] <MySystem> hello i have a problem with my onboard soundcard, the prob my side speakers and my sub dont get a sig no matter which source, sysinfos: mainboard M4A785TD-V EVO onboard soundchip via vt1708s kubuntu12.04, my trys many mixers, my knowlegde in windows i have from via mixer some options more think the relevant ones are speakerfilling (for the side) and bassmanagment settings for sub , hello blueskaj now i have time for this prob (if you reme
[17:15] <MySystem> ah forgott something in phonon settings if i test sub the test sound appears for side sadly nothing but cabels and so are good, and its not a digital link to amblifier its a analog with 4xstereo
[17:21] <MySystem> back sry dc
[17:23] <lordievader> MySystem: It seems BluesKaj is afk.
[17:24] <MySystem> thats no wonder he is here nearly all day it just take some time *smile*
[17:25] <MySystem> but if anyone else have an idea to send these settings to my soundcard
[17:33] <MySystem1> *sad* my isp is doing something strange i think this isnt the best time to fix this prob with sound,got 2 dc's in 10min i will come back if my isp fixed the prob
[18:08] <MySystem1> ok isp probs seems to be gone i start again: i have a problem with my onboard soundcard, the prob my side speakers and my sub dont get a sig for sub only in phonon speakertest it works side nothing, sysinfos: mainboard M4A785TD-V EVO, onboard soundchip via vt1708s,link to amp is 4xanalog stereo, kubuntu12.04, my trys many mixers, my knowlegde in windows i have from via mixer some options more think the relevant ones are speakerfilling (f
[18:10] <BluesKaj> MySystem1, so what speaker connection , is it o an amplifier or to the soundcard on the pc?
[18:12] <MySystem1> speaker connection analog with 4x stereo to 3 amplifiers and the second i dont understand
[18:16] <BluesKaj> MySystem1, so your soundcard is connected to 3 analog inputs on an amplifier , correct ?
[18:17] <MySystem1> no sound card is connected via 4 stereo cabels to 3 amplifier(2 stereo 1quad)
[18:17] <MySystem1> sry if this wasnt clear from my question
[18:20] <BluesKaj> MySystem1, are there any digital inputs on the amplifiers ?
[18:20] <MySystem1> no they are complete analog
[18:22] <MySystem1> and sadly dont have a working digital amp to test if i see right what you wanted to try
[18:25] <BluesKaj> your 4x stereo setup is confusing , one stereo (L+R) or does that count as 2
[18:29] <MySystem1> oh sry to have a 7.1 suround system with only analog amplifiers i have a stereo cable for each box pair so one cabel front(l+r) one rear(l+r) one side (l+r) one sub+center so 4 stereo cabels from soundcard to 2 stereo amps and one quad amp
[18:29] <MySystem1> blueskaj sry forgett to put this at beginning of message
[18:36] <BluesKaj> MySystem1, ok what chip does, alsamixer  , give in the terminal , upper left ?
[18:37] <MySystem1> VIA VT1708S
[18:38] <icy05> hey ppl, im a linux noob and need some advice..anyone help me please
[18:39] <icy05> need help with screen res before boot and how to edit the grub file before boot
[18:41] <icy05> ne1??
[18:42] <icy05> p.s google wasnt friendly :/
[18:43] <MySystem1> be patient this takes a time to rekognize your question most are here the complete day and so dont look every min on irc
[18:44] <neosimago> my screen keeps blanking out; using kubuntu 12.04 on a T410. Turned off screensaver; any ideas?
[18:44] <neosimago> watching a movie; reading a article; it just goes dark.
[18:44] <MySystem1> icy05:and for me i dont understand what you mean with resolution befor boot if you mean grub resolution and your linux starts there is a tool to config grub from kubuntu
[18:44] <neosimago> every few minutes or so, repeates; move mouse; comes back up
[18:45] <MySystem1> neosimago i think  energy saving features
[18:45] <BluesKaj> MySystem1, which driver ..  cat /proc/asound/modules , in the terminal
[18:46] <neosimago> looked under energy saving features; power management in system settings; nothing to change the behaviour.
[18:46] <icy05> mysystem one : thing is once the res is set i cant read it at all  so wanted to know how to edit it and set it manually
[18:46] <neosimago> set it to act like a pc on ac power.
[18:46] <MySystem1> blueskaj:  0 snd_hda_intel \n 1 snd_hda_intel
[18:48] <BluesKaj> VIA technologies uses intelhda drivers?
[18:48] <MySystem1> blueskaj: iam not a pro dont know but it sounds strange
[18:49] <MySystem1> icy05: how will you edit it if you cant read anything ?or thgis there a place or way to read ?
[18:50] <icy05> mysystem1: heance before boot :)
[18:51] <neosimago> MySystem1: i need another idea other than energy saving features; it's just blanking out every minute.
[18:51] <BluesKaj> MySystem1, I usually don't recommend pppl buy new hardware , but in your case I doubt the onboard souncard and driver is capable of serving 7.1 discrete signals toy yuor amps , a sound system like that actaully needs a separate soundacrd with separate/discrete analog outputs to you amps
[18:51] <icy05> :mysystem1: or i can ctrl+alt+f4 brings me to a console but i dont know many commands lol
[18:52] <MySystem1> neosimago:iam a bit out of ideas cant imagine what happens there but as i said iam not a pro
[18:52] <MySystem1> icy05 ah so your kde has wrong resolution
[18:53] <icy05> mysystem1: yeh, sorry should have just said that lol
[18:53] <BluesKaj> neosimago, open system settings >display and monitor ..set your screensaver to 180 mins or so , so it won't blank your screen during a movie
[18:53] <MySystem1> blueskaj yes this my soundcard has 4 seperated analog outputs and for imformation in windows it works fine
[18:54] <neosimago> BluesKaj: i don't believe it's the screensaver; it just blanks out because the screensaver is set to a pattern.
[18:55] <BluesKaj> set t he timer on the screensaver , and make sure your power management>dim display is st to the same time
[18:55] <BluesKaj> neosimago,^
[18:56] <MySystem1> icy05 i have an idea but not sure it works and not sure if you damage your xorg and wont have any picture
[18:57] <MySystem1> icy05 there can be a config file that where its possible to set resolutions
[18:57] <BluesKaj> MySystem1, do you have all the outputs turned up in alsamixer and kmix
[18:58] <icy05> mysystem1 : that would be in the grub.conf file wouldnt it?? just dont know how to edit and save changes
[18:59] <MySystem1> icy05 its located /etc/X11/xorg.conf backup it if it exist with cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak and then edit it with a editor like nano or vi (no garantie)
[19:00] <MySystem1> blueskajyes output are all pu for the speaker outputs wait a take a screen
[19:03] <icy05> mysystem 1 ill give it a crack, thanks
[19:04] <MySystem1> crack? ~ try?
[19:05] <MySystem1> blueskaj what was the site to paste images?
[19:07] <BluesKaj> imagebin.org MySystem1
[19:08] <MySystem1> http://imagebin.org/229300
[19:08] <MySystem1> the last which is missing on screen is the rearmic again
[19:09] <OerHeks> make the terminal larger :-)
[19:09] <MySystem1> yes next time *smile*
[19:09] <MySystem1> yes saw it after paste
[19:15] <BluesKaj> MySystem1, so you have no audio on your side or sub , correct ?
[19:16] <BluesKaj> have you installed pavucontrol for your soundcard, it might help
[19:16] <MySystem1> yes
[19:19] <MySystem1> blueskaj yes you already gave me this tip but the prog doesnt show any new
[19:19] <MySystem1> options
[19:24] <MySystem1> the point is that this is right what the soundcard does (only the missing test signal on side) because without the bassmanagment settings the sub isnt used and without the speakerfilling options side is dead until i have a 7.1 audio source
[19:24] <MySystem1> oh blueskaj
[19:26] <MySystem1> but what to do to get those options
[19:29] <BluesKaj> MySystem1, so you expect your soundcard to emulate 7.1 when there' only a 5.1 signal available...not even my DD and DTS capable amplifier can do that without using dolby pro logic mode , which may be available with a software app for the audio on your pc , but I havent looked for one
[19:31] <BluesKaj> MySystem1, I think you windows driver has that capability but Linux drivers are more direct and don't come with other emulators builtin
[19:32] <MySystem1> blueskaj no its the via hdaudiodeck which has this options windows also dont know this options zthey are only in the special mixer from via
[19:34] <MySystem1> and yes the speakerfilling is like that what your digital amp does
[19:34] <BluesKaj> yes , MySystem1 that's part of the windows driver software ...wife has a similar capability on her diamond audio card
[19:35] <MySystem1> blueskaj ok so how do i get this driver specific options in my linux
[19:36] <qw__> help my please
[19:36] <MySystem1> mp3 quali is bad but without bassmanagment its truly poor
[19:36] <MySystem1> with what qw_
[19:36] <qw__> i am delete my control panel
[19:36] <qw__> help me please restored
[19:36] <MySystem1> you mean the kde system settings or the taskbar
[19:37] <qw__> in windows control panel name Start
[19:37] <MySystem1> thats easy
[19:37] <BluesKaj> MySystem1, maybe there's a better linux driver for your audio card that contains those options, Alsa sees the 7.1 but can't supply audio from the other channels
[19:37] <qw__> were is system settings ?
[19:38] <MySystem1> qw_ rightklick your desktop and klick add kontrollpane (or how its called in english) und the menu that comes select default contorl pane
[19:39] <BluesKaj> qw__, alt+f2 systemsettings
[19:39] <qw_> done create control panel
[19:40] <qw_> BluesKaj yes
[19:40] <BluesKaj> add panel
[19:41] <qw_> were?
[19:41] <MySystem1> blueskaj yes because this is hardwares work to fill the sound to all speakers, a better linux driver you said and previusly you said that used driver is intel this sounds like a way but how to change the driver
[19:41] <BluesKaj> qw_, desktop settings as MySystem1 suggested
[19:41] <qw_> i am create
[19:42] <qw_> but i am no see default control pane
[19:42] <qw_> panel *
[19:42] <BluesKaj> MySystem1, do some research to find one , there might be a better driver , not sure
[19:43] <MySystem1> qw_ oh for my it was at desktop rightlick add panel but its not so bad just click on your empty panel and add the things you want like startmenu systemcontroll and so
[19:43] <qw_> ^(
[19:44] <qw_> but i like defaul panel befor install system
[19:45] <BluesKaj> qw_, did you see the default panel option when you clicked on add panel ?
[19:46] <MySystem1> blueskaj i hope and would  but i dont no where to search for what and how a sound driver look like in linux, and also want to check if my linux realy uses an intel driver for my via chip because if it is so i just have to switch to the right
[19:46] <qw_> now add kubuntu start up
[19:47] <qw_> but i am hide IRC i am not see IRC in panel
[19:47] <MySystem1> click through your 4 desktops it can be thats the option to only show which is on this desktop
[19:48] <BluesKaj> MySystem1, lspci -v | grep -i snd , just to make sure
[19:48] <qw_> i am not understand (
[19:49] <MySystem1> ok now iam sure its the wrong driver  4 entrys 2xdriver &modules and all with snd_hda_intel
[19:51] <qw_> YES YES YES
[19:51] <qw_> i am understand
[19:51] <qw_> Thank You very mutch )
[19:51] <MySystem1> ah good dont know how write it in anaother way
[19:53] <MySystem1> blueskaj this command printes kernel driver and modules so how is my driver selected and how can i change this selection
[19:54] <qw_> but
[19:54] <MySystem1> because i think its just a fail select and if i choose one of the via drivers and with a bit luck the right or something compatible it will work
[19:55] <qw_> i am not see wodget "connect from my network"?
[19:55] <MySystem1> you mean networkmanager in systemcontroll next to startmenu?
[19:55] <MySystem1> qw_
[19:56] <qw_> my kubuntu is russian please russian =)
[19:56] <MySystem1> oh that will be very hard to translate from german to english to russian
[19:56] <BluesKaj> MySystem1, pastebin the output of lspci -v | grep -i snd , please
[19:56] <qw_> =)
[19:57] <MySystem1> http://pastebin.com/hVmThrNZ
[19:57] <MySystem1> qw_ do you have the widget where the networkmanager sould be ?
[19:57] <BluesKaj> qw_, alt+f2 , networkmanager
[19:58] <qw_> didn't start (
[19:59] <MySystem1> qw_ i think its already runnninng but not listed in systemicons
[20:00] <MySystem1> for check if running ctrl+esc and enter net or write it complete
[20:00] <MySystem1> qw_ do you already have this systemnotify widget in your panel?
[20:01] <qw_> befor delete penael widget used
[20:02] <BluesKaj> qw do you see the little cashew/half moon icon on the right end of the panel , click that and choose add widgets
[20:02] <BluesKaj> qw_,^
[20:04] <qw_> in right click for control panel i see Settings Widgets "Control panel" second: Settings Widget "Panel"  3- : Delete widget "Control Panel"
[20:05] <qw_> addd
[20:05] <qw_> add 8
[20:05] <qw_> i am add thanks
[20:05] <qw_> Thank you Boy's =)
[20:08] <MySystem1> np have fun with your kde
[20:23] <MySystem1> blueskaj is it ok the end this for today think its a good point because now i know that i have to look in the driver and kernel direction to get those missing hardware options and my attention is falling because of 22:23 oclock here
[20:25] <BluesKaj> ok , but I think the intel hda diver is the only one available . MySystem1
[20:26] <MySystem1> oh that would be bad for a new soundcard i dont have the money
[20:26] <MySystem1> i keep looking foward this had to work *smile*
[20:27] <MySystem1> thx for your help again *smile* you are realy one of the best here i know have a nice day
[20:28] <BluesKaj> ok , take care , MySystem1
[20:28] <MySystem1> all other also a nice day till then
[20:43] <Uh> Yo
[20:43] <Uh> Anyone here?
[20:44] <BluesKaj> uh  ..yeah
[20:44] <Uh> Wanna help me remove all passwords completely from ubuntu? I can't find a fix for it anywhere
[20:45] <BluesKaj> sorry , I don't know how
[20:45] <Uh> gay
[20:55] <olivier> salut le peuple
[20:55] <olivier> y'a de la france?
[20:55] <BluesKaj> !fr | olivier
[21:26] <ali_> firefox is dangerous
[21:27] <ali_> use google chrome ((becouse it more simple))
[21:27] <ali_> hello all cyber mans
[21:34] <Daz646> Hi
[21:35] <Daz646> Ali i just literally installed firefox as im new to linux. Why is firefox dangerous?
[21:35] <mindVVind> did you see ?
[21:35] <mindVVind> Bloomberg
[21:36] <mindVVind> by his logo))
[21:37] <mindVVind> fox is firebeast
[21:37] <mindVVind> so why you use linux??
[21:38] <mindVVind> I use linux too//
[21:38] <mindVVind> / end I am happy sometimes..
[21:39] <mindVVind> ..=W=
[21:39] <mindVVind> this is my logo))
[21:41] <mindVVind> ..did you know that wanilaBSD maybe some better ??
[21:43] <mindVVind> daz646 there are you frome??
[21:44] <mindVVind> Daz646 are you need in 3d model of you??))
[21:44] <Daz646> Hey mate sorry was on the phone.
[21:44] <mindVVind> 0k
[22:14] <cielak> hello everyone
[22:14] <cielak> I have a simple question
[22:14] <cielak> I have not used KDE much and Kubuntu in particular
[22:15] <cielak> but while working on an Ubuntu app to make it work on other Ubuntu flavours too
[22:15] <cielak> I was wondering whether GTK+ apps are installable in KDE
[22:15] <tsimpson> yes, of course
[22:15] <cielak> I mean: do people tend to avoid GNOME/GTK applications on Kubuntu, because they pull in thousands of dependencies?
[22:16] <cielak> I expect them to require lots of gtk runtime libraries to be installed, right?
[22:16] <tsimpson> Gnome applications still pull in Gnome libs, but Kubuntu comes with the GTK+ libraries anyway, so pure GTK+ apps are not so bad
[22:17] <genii-around> Most people I know are at least usually already running Firefox on their KDE anyhow.
[22:17] <cielak> oh, that's not that bad, then
[22:17] <sithlord48> whats up #kubuntu ?
[22:17] <tsimpson> the reverse is also true, Ubuntu comes with Qt libraries, but full not KDE libraries
[22:18] <mindVVind> But the best Kstars!!
[22:18] <mindVVind> sorry
[22:18] <cielak> yeah, I am familiar with the reverse case
[22:18] <mindVVind> How to see BSD filesystem under linux??
[22:18] <cielak> as installing KDE apps on standard Ubuntu pulls in thousands megabytes of libraries
[22:19] <sithlord48> mindVVind:  what file system?
[22:19] <mindVVind> KDE the best it is simple
[22:19] <genii-around> Probably UFS/ZFS
[22:19] <cielak> but if that's not that annoying in case of GTK apps on Kubuntu, then I think I can consider the application to be runable on Kubuntu too ;)
[22:19] <mindVVind> I dont know too
[22:19] <sithlord48> do we not have an included driver for that ?
[22:19] <cielak> thanks tsimpson! :)
[22:20] <mindVVind> I install it(ВSD) from graf installer
[22:21] <sithlord48> do you recive a popup for it when you plug it in ? or see it in dolphin's places?
[22:21] <mindVVind> of course
[22:21] <mindVVind> it is a great
[22:22] <genii-around> mindVVind: Probably ufsutils will install the correct support.
[22:22] <sithlord48> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS/ <- perhaps help you ?
[22:25] <mindVVind> I have no choise
[22:25] <mindVVind> this  is truble miracle
[22:26] <mindVVind> but Thanks - I never see someThinngs le thiS
[22:28] <genii-around> mindVVind: I just checked, the default filesystem for FBSD is still UFS ( I thought they may have switched in recent releases to ZFS but it seems not ). The package called ufsutils will install the needed driver for you to mount and fsck those drives.
[22:29] <mindVVind> end that ZFS better then UFS??
[22:30] <genii-around> mindVVind: Yes, but ZFS is still proprietary to Sun
[22:43] <mindVVind> in russia many many days flow without Sun((
[22:52] <drbobb> hey it looks like the upgrade of my 11.10 to 12.04 just failed
[22:53] <drbobb> it stopped at 'setting up memtest86+' and is not progressing any further
[23:00] <drbobb> yep the updater seems to be dead
[23:00] <drbobb> grub-probe: error: unknown filesystem.
[23:01] <drbobb> wtf
[23:02] <drbobb> I guess that leaves me with a broken system