[11:40] <FloatingGoat> whats the best way to record guitar? looped at every 4th beat or try to play through the whole song?
[11:41] <smartboyhw> Now where is ailo!?
[11:41] <smartboyhw> HE would be the best to answer this
[11:41] <smartboyhw> Also len-dt maybe
[11:42] <FloatingGoat> he answers a lot of my questions lol
[11:45] <FloatingGoat> i guess i could ask again tomorrow
[11:45] <FloatingGoat> or later today
[18:20] <Ubuntu_Issues> Hey guys ive got maaajor resolution issues
[18:20] <Ubuntu_Issues> just did an update and im stuck at 640 x 480
[18:21] <Ubuntu_Issues> does anyone know any way to rollback all updates or force resolution?
[18:23] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: i would just try the old kernel
[18:23] <Ubuntu_Issues> sorry im a real new user here :)
[18:23] <holstein> i would look and see if a proprietary driver installation has installed a custom xorg.conf and that it looks as expected
[18:23] <Ubuntu_Issues> just upgraded from win 7
[18:24] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: thats not an upgrade
[18:24] <Ubuntu_Issues> I have absolutely no idea how to
[18:24] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: thats a different operating system
[18:24] <Ubuntu_Issues> oh hey holstein! I used to be known as presonus :P
[18:24] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: i was assuming an upgrade had broken your display
[18:24] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: i would just look for a proprietary driver
[18:24] <Ubuntu_Issues> yeah it seems to have, I didnt have a problem till I rebooted
[18:25] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: ok.. then try the earlier kerne
[18:25] <Ubuntu_Issues> ok sorry for stupiud questions but what is a kernal -facepalm- and how do I try an earlier one
[18:25] <Ubuntu_Issues> I used the damn updater
[18:26] <holstein> well, you can search around and find out what a kernel is if you need
[18:26] <Ubuntu_Issues> no idea about terminal window.. yet
[18:26] <Ubuntu_Issues> but im learning
[18:26] <holstein> at boot, you'll see a list of boot options
[18:26] <holstein> if you dont, you can either tap shift to show them, or refer to
[18:26] <holstein> !grub2
[18:26] <Ubuntu_Issues> hmmmm
[18:27] <Ubuntu_Issues> I dont have grub installed i dont think
[18:27] <holstein> you'll find the last kernel that was working in the list under "previous entries" or something like that
[18:27] <Ubuntu_Issues> it boots straight to ustudio
[18:27] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you can confirm that if you'd like, by referring to that link i gave you
[18:27] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: but, if linux is booting, and you installed from the default installation CD, you have grub
[18:28] <Ubuntu_Issues> booted from usb, installed to hd
[18:28] <Ubuntu_Issues> it auto boots, no options
[18:28] <Ubuntu_Issues> is there ashortcut key I need to hit?
[18:28] <Ubuntu_Issues> it was a blank drive in a blak machine
[18:28] <Ubuntu_Issues> *blank
[18:29] <Ubuntu_Issues> sorry for text formatting, my zoom is all fucked since my resolution is huge
[18:29] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you can tap shift to show the boot menu as i mentioned earlier, or you can refer to that link
[18:29] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: this is a troubleshooting step.. try the earlier kernel
[18:29] <Ubuntu_Issues> oh ok cool I missed it, my window is TINY
[18:29] <Ubuntu_Issues> thanks man rebooting and trying now
[18:33] <Ubuntu_lUser> Hey rebooted and back
[18:33] <Ubuntu_lUser> im getting invalid format on my display until it boots
[18:33] <Ubuntu_lUser> cant access any menus
[18:33] <Ubuntu_lUser> is there anything I can do from the terminal to force resolution?
[18:34] <Ubuntu_lUser> oh good my nick timed out
[18:37] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you tried the earlier kernel?
[18:37] <holstein> is there an earlier kernel?
[18:37] <holstein> there are recovery options, and one of them is graphics
[18:37] <holstein> thats in that menu that im still not sure you are getting to or not
[18:38] <Ubuntu_Crash> sirry bad crash
[18:38] <Ubuntu_Crash> no chat history, I cant log into xchat cos the buttons are off the screen
[18:39] <Ubuntu_Crash> SUCH a pain
[18:39] <Ubuntu_Crash> does anyone know a way to force resolution?
[18:39] <Ubuntu_Crash> thx :)
[18:40] <holstein> there are recovery options, and one of them is graphics
[18:40] <holstein> thats in that menu that im still not sure you are getting to or not
[18:40] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you can put an xorg.conf in place
[18:40] <Ubuntu_Crash> cant get any boot menus
[18:40] <holstein> you can remove the kernel upgrade asssuming thats what has caused the issme
[18:40] <holstein> issue*
[18:40] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you'll need to tap shift, or refer to that link i gave on how to unhide the grub menu
[18:40] <Ubuntu_Crash> cant access kernal menu, invalid format warning on my screen
[18:41] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: then thats screen related
[18:41] <Ubuntu_Crash> cant get to grub. no display till the desktop loads
[18:41] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: i would look and see if you have changed any settings there
[18:41] <Ubuntu_Crash> screen was running fine till I updated and rebooted
[18:42] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: then, if you are early one, maybe just reinstall, and dont update
[18:42] <Ubuntu_Crash> damn I dont have time to :P I was hoping it was any easy command line to force resolution :) sitting round with a bunch of mates smashed as hell
[18:43] <Ubuntu_Crash> playing music its like 5am here
[18:43] <Ubuntu_Crash> oops 7am man im wasted
[18:44] <Ubuntu_Crash> googled it a few times but couldnt find anything that worked :) thats why I logged on here
[18:44] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you can explore those options i gave earlier
[18:44] <Ubuntu_Crash> really appreciate your guys help thanks heaps
[18:44] <holstein> you can try #xubuntu or #ubuntu since this is not really an ubuntustudio issue
[18:45] <Ubuntu_Crash> yep rebooted a few times hence the nick change holstein, cant get grub menu
[18:45] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you can if you edit the menu in tty
[18:45] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: have you tried tty?
[18:45] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: have you tried checking out that linke?
[18:45] <holstein> !grub2
[18:45] <Ubuntu_Crash> dumbass question whats a tty
[18:45] <Ubuntu_Crash> im so sorry :P I know I must look like a retard haha
[18:45] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: that is another way of getting to your system
[18:45] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you look frustrated and rightly so
[18:46] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you'll need to be patient and ready to try some troubleshootins steps though to resolve this
[18:46] <Ubuntu_Crash> haha its not so much that ive lost grub, cos it is loading, but the resolution its loading in isnt supported by my tv
[18:46] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: reinstalling should take about 20 minutes.. that would be the easiest
[18:46] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you didnt "lose" grub
[18:47] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you *never* said tv til just now
[18:47] <Ubuntu_Crash> oh crap sorry
[18:47] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: i would get to a monitor.. make life easier
[18:47] <holstein> set it up there, and then go to the TV
[18:47] <Ubuntu_Crash> tv has vga input
[18:47] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: sure... and hows that working for you?
[18:47] <Ubuntu_Crash> cant get to a monitor today
[18:47] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you *can* sort this out with the tv, but id have to be there
[18:48] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: i would just reinstall and dont update
[18:48] <holstein> just dont update til you know what you are doing a little more and you have more hardware for troubleshooting purposes
[18:48] <Ubuntu_Crash> yeah ill have to reinstall tomorrow when my heads clear :P all my windows are off the screen and its driving me nuts
[18:49] <Ubuntu_Crash> yeah definately, I installed all the updates I could find cos im trying  new firewire card
[18:49] <Ubuntu_Crash> im the guy that had the firewire problems
[18:49] <Ubuntu_Crash> didnt expect it to screw with the display
[18:49] <holstein> it might not have
[18:50] <holstein> its not a display anyways, its a TV
[18:50] <holstein> thats an extra layer of complexity that you might not want to deal with
[18:50] <Ubuntu_Crash> for the record I bloody love ustudio its awesome
[18:50] <Ubuntu_Crash> well its a plasma
[18:50] <Ubuntu_Crash> but yeah tv, it showed up as a standard monitor untill I updated
[18:50] <Ubuntu_Crash> *-l
[18:50] <holstein> if it were me, i would just go in with a live CD and put an xorg.conf in place
[18:50] <holstein> OR, ssh in
[18:51] <Ubuntu_Crash> its an empty box im perfectly happy to open it up
[18:52] <Ubuntu_Crash> ill have to reburn an iso to usb and redo it, internet is pretty crap here so thats atlease a 3 hour ordeal
[18:52] <Ubuntu_Crash> sorry for spelling, all my typing is offscreen bc of resolution
[18:53] <holstein> internet doesnt have anything to do with it
[18:53] <holstein> just use the one you have already downloaded
[18:54] <holstein> make a USB stick reinstall.. you should be done in 20 minutes
[18:54] <Ubuntu_Crash> already blanked the damn usb to transfer my files
[18:54] <holstein> sure, use the iso you have downloaded
[18:54] <Ubuntu_Crash> and the iso is on my dead windows box
[18:55] <Ubuntu_Crash> nightmarrrre
[18:55] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you have no live diagnostic CD's?
[18:55] <Ubuntu_Crash> nope
[18:55] <Ubuntu_Crash> no optical drive
[18:55] <Ubuntu_Crash> :P
[18:55] <holstein> maybe just download a lighter one.. puppy... ubcd
[18:55] <holstein> get the iso off the windows box
[18:55] <Ubuntu_Crash> puppy is awesome :) I just really love ustudiop
[18:56] <Ubuntu_Crash> the sequncing program is prefect for writing drums
[18:56] <Ubuntu_Crash> and geequie is amazing for my photography
[18:56] <holstein> im not suggestion you use puppy instead
[18:56] <Ubuntu_Crash> o really? I may have puppy lying around
[18:56] <holstein> im staying the puppy iso is under 200mb's and you need a live diagonistics CD anyways
[18:57] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: when i say "you have no live diagnostic CD's" thats what im asking
[18:57] <holstein> *anything* that boots up live.. right now.. that you can get that iso off the "dead" windows box with
[18:57] <holstein> then, you transfer instead of download
[18:57] <holstein> remake a USB. boot.. install.. enjoy
[18:57] <Ubuntu_Crash> mobo is dead, nothings comin off it without a hd transfer
[18:58] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: i would take the hard drive to another machine ..plug it in
[18:59] <holstein> or, just q up the iso download
[18:59] <Ubuntu_Crash> stupid asus hp box has these green shit in the way its gonna be a cunty teardown
[19:00] <Ubuntu_Crash> qing up the dl now
[19:00] <holstein> asus hp?
[19:00] <holstein> whatever... if its trash, its trash... tear it down with a hammer
[19:00] <Ubuntu_Crash> yeah its a bastard pc :P
[19:00] <holstein> i can only offer solutions... i dont deal with limitations well
[19:01] <holstein> i just get things done, or throw them out
[19:01] <Ubuntu_Crash> :P im in the resurrection business haha building a junkyard network
[19:01] <holstein> sure... but if its trash, its trash
[19:01] <Ubuntu_Crash> got a bunch of boxes out of the trash - broke student artist
[19:01] <holstein> either he mobo is dead or not
[19:01] <holstein> yup.. i got a stack of those as well
[19:04] <Ubuntu_Crash> well one box had a mobo that worked, one had a power supply and the other four had 3 gigs each of hd :P
[19:05] <holstein> so, you can build a functional machine, and get the info from the hard drive
[19:05] <Ubuntu_Crash> resurrected a laptop with puppy linux and it worked well so I thought id go for a serious ubuntu install, and this is the first one thats worked
[19:06] <Ubuntu_Crash> I know my questions are pretty stupid but im learning :P thanks so much for your patience
[19:07] <holstein> i dont think your questions are stupid... you have some excuses mixed in with the questions though
[19:08] <Ubuntu_Crash> yep! Probably due to inexperience
[19:09] <Ubuntu_Crash> if you can spot what the excuses are def call me on it :) ill be as honest as I can
[19:09] <holstein> its challenging... you really got to be willing to tinker since no one is getting paid to make sure your linux experience is "good" on your hardware
[19:09] <holstein> OR, buy something with linux already on it, like from system76
[19:09] <holstein> but, i feel confident we can get you going in the right direction here
[19:09] <Ubuntu_Crash> Heres the story from boot, I get my DOS screen, then nothing but a blank invalid format display until the desktop loads with a default monitor showing only 2 resolution options
[19:10] <holstein> you can force different options with a custom xorg.conf
[19:11] <Ubuntu_Crash> cant afford to buy anything, im on student allowance and trying to get a computer thatll do my projects without actually shelling out more than a hundy :P
[19:11] <Ubuntu_Crash> and im so close!
[19:11] <holstein> i didnt mean to imply that was mandatory
[19:12] <Ubuntu_Crash> oh good :P started wondering if ive pushed my hardware luck to capacity
[19:12] <Ubuntu_Crash> its a dual core though but ddr2 ram so kinda old
[19:13] <holstein> i can do anything i do on a p4 with a gig of ram
[19:13] <holstein> 512 prolloy
[19:13] <Ubuntu_Crash> wow!
[19:14] <Ubuntu_Crash> I resurrected a p2, ive got 4 p4s in my junk server atm
[19:14] <Ubuntu_Crash> working my way up with ubuntu so I can attack it once ive got more knowledge
[19:14] <Ubuntu_Crash> its a long road though
[19:14] <Ubuntu_Crash> ive got the stickability, just trying not to piss off my few avenues of help haha
[19:15] <Ubuntu_Crash> is unetbootin the program to load isos to in ubuntu? Or do you guys use a better one
[19:16] <Ubuntu_Crash> thats what I used on my win7 box before I formatted it
[19:16] <holstein> unet is the one i use... there are plenty and "better" is a matter of opinion
[19:16] <Ubuntu_Crash> good, as long as 'junk' isnt in the description, I know windows ports are dodgy sometimes
[19:16] <holstein> unet is in the repos
[19:17] <holstein> its well supported
[19:20] <Ubuntu_Crash> right! unet installing, gona roll right back to a clean install and leaave the updates off
[19:21] <Ubuntu_Crash> is there somewhere with update advice I can check to decide whats vital and what isnt?
[19:21] <Ubuntu_Crash> once again, apologies for the spelling, I cringe every time
[19:21] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: i would just learn for now
[19:21] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: if you get some more "generic" hardware, you can run a normal setup
[19:22] <holstein> kernel upgrades can break things
[19:22] <Ubuntu_Crash> problem is ive got no contingency, so if I take it offline I can't get online to check any help files, so I make hard copy note before I do anything
[19:22] <holstein> they can also add functionality
[19:22] <Ubuntu_Crash> its the only box in the house thats working now
[19:23] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: if its not "online" then theres nothing to worry about security wise
[19:23] <Ubuntu_Crash> I cannibalised everything to get it running
[19:23] <Ubuntu_Crash> not security wise, as in if something fucks out and doesnt install I cant google the error to fix it
[19:23] <Ubuntu_Crash> its a blank box I dont care about security atm theres nothing on it
[19:23] <holstein> if you arent online, you wont be installing anything anyways
[19:24] <Ubuntu_Crash> operating systems
[19:24] <Ubuntu_Crash> ustudio installer screwed up for weeks when I tried to load it
[19:24] <holstein> i dont take updates or install anything while installing the OS
[19:25] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: it worked first time and everytime for me
[19:25] <holstein> i had issues taking upgrades while installing so i dont anymore
[19:25] <Ubuntu_Crash> example: With puppy I had to load another program first to recognise the usb port and boot from it, I wouldnt have known that if I hadnt hit up puppylinuxs chatroom and asked
[19:26] <holstein> either your machine boots USB or it doesnt
[19:26] <holstein> you needed something like plop?
[19:26] <Ubuntu_Crash> cant remember the name but the menu looked like the old ps2 screens
[19:26] <Ubuntu_Crash> yeah plop!
[19:26] <holstein> thats got nothing to do with puppy
[19:26] <holstein> thats because you have legacy hardware that doesnt USB boot
[19:26] <Ubuntu_Crash> THANKS! My windows machine needs it, and google as I might I couldnt find the name
[19:26] <holstein> *any* thing you want to boot from USB will require that
[19:27] <Ubuntu_Crash> yeah it was oooold :P
[19:27] <Ubuntu_Crash> acer aspire
[19:27] <Ubuntu_Crash> no cd drive, ony floppy! I nearly took it fully apart to get at the hd till someone mentioned plop
[19:33] <Ubuntu_Crash> Can I ask some dumb questions? Do you guys use utorrent or is there a special linux one? What about winamp? Are there any common applications I SHOULDNT install? (Acrobat, Office etc)
[19:33] <Ubuntu_Crash> im 26 btw not 13, I'm reading back over these questions and realising I actually know stuff all about linux
[19:34] <Ubuntu_Crash> :P
[19:34] <holstein> i dont think there is winamp for linux, though nothing about linux or ubuntu prevents winamp from making a version for it
[19:34] <holstein> there are *lots* of media player.. i always come back to VLC
[19:34] <holstein> !vlc
[19:34] <holstein> i dont torrent things, though i have hosted iso's for friends
[19:35] <holstein> there are defaults in the main ubuntu distro, and in xubuntu
[19:35] <holstein> there are plenty of torrent applications
[19:35] <Ubuntu_Crash> Im using Audacious atm, but I really loved the visualisations in winamp, can you run these on audacious? The matrix screensaver is doing fine for now, I freakin love this OS
[19:35] <holstein> transmission was the torrent application i used
[19:36] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: there are plenty of heavy application for media playback with visualization
[19:36] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: i would look at one of the big ones... rhythymbox or banshee or amarok
[19:37] <holstein> i dont install adobe acrobat reader since we have pdf viewers and adobe has been causeing some unecessary sucurity risks with th reader application
[19:37] <holstein> i dont use microsoft office, i use either google docs online, or libre office, which is in the repos
[19:38] <holstein> i would take it slow, and just ask
[19:38] <Ustudio_Somethin> oops did I get kicked or did I accidentally quit
[19:38] <holstein> "i want visualizations"
[19:38] <Ustudio_Somethin> sorry mods if i did
[19:38] <holstein> Ustudio_Somethin: no one kicked you or got kicked
[19:38] <Ustudio_Somethin> ok cool im using a webchat atm so no chat history or server window
[19:39] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1219270/
[19:39] <holstein> ^ history
[19:39] <holstein> i would try and just "get your feet wet"
[19:39] <Ustudio_Somethin> Im going back to my screen name to make things easier
[19:39] <Ustudio_Somethin>  :)
[19:39] <holstein> think about how long you used windows before you started using winamp, or even knew what a visualization was
[19:40] <holstein> i mean, i could be doing the same.. showing up with windows asking about apt-get and repositories
[19:40] <holstein> these are different operating systems, and i urge you to take a more open-minded computer science approach like "how can i accomplishe this task" rather than "how can i exaclty emulate the experience that im used to"
[19:41] <TripleFFF> -whoosh for now- I dedicate myself to learning what the heck that means
[19:42] <TripleFFF> :) I'd love to! I think I just don't know how to ask, as I don't know the capabilities yet
[19:42] <holstein> you say "how do i get visualizations in my media player"
[19:42] <holstein> instead of "is there anything like winamp"
[19:42] <TripleFFF> and what I think is the only possible way to do something is the most difficult, since its using mostly windows knowledge
[19:43] <TripleFFF> ok cool!
[19:43] <TripleFFF> I get you, winamp is the best possible thing I could think of
[19:43] <holstein> sure, and i just happened to have used winamp
[19:43] <holstein> so i know what you are asking.. but we have lots of visualization options
[19:45] <holstein> if a person is new to computers, i think its easier just sit down and use linux... its the switching that is challenging
[19:45] <TripleFFF> can you recommend any cool linux media players with visualizations that are comparable to something like milkdrop
[19:46] <holstein> theres a certain level of functinalitiy that a user expects that has taken years to cultivate, and they want that immediately
[19:46] <holstein> TripleFFF: i would try one of the major big ones.. like i mentioned above... rhythymbox.. banshee, amarok
[19:47] <holstein> http://linuxrevolution.blogspot.com/2007/11/howto-get-more-visualizations-in.html
[19:47] <holstein> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/enable-visualisations-in-banshee-ubuntu
[19:48] <holstein> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Amarok_1.4/User_Guides/ProjectM_HowTo
[19:48] <holstein> amarok will pull in a bunch of KDE stuff... though it is quite nice
[19:49] <TripleFFF> have you had any experiences with the visualisation control? We use winamp a lot at dance parties for the screens
[19:50] <holstein> TripleFFF: i dont do visualizations.. the most if done is disable the automatic ones in rythymbox
[19:50] <holstein> there are plenty of nice ones... JACK ones
[19:57] <Ubuntu_Crash>  Ok I desperately need to know how to format a drive as /root or whatever it is
[19:57] <Ubuntu_Crash> my phone locked my sd card as read only and now I cant record to it
[19:57] <Ubuntu_Crash> we're in the middle of a jam session
[19:58] <Ubuntu_Crash> I need to format it
[19:59] <Ubuntu_Crash> drives recognised, but it says error creating trash item
[19:59] <Ubuntu_Crash> oops thats where my other login went
[20:00] <TripleFFF> test
[20:00] <TripleFFF> damn multi desktop voodoo
[20:01] <TripleFFF> sorry if theres another way to ask that, umm does anyone know how to zero write an sd card from the terminal as admin?
[20:05] <TripleFFF> I tried googling, wikihow said to install gparted Ubuntu but I got htis Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package gparte
[20:05] <TripleFFF> oops just read it, sorry for the flood, my eyes arent so good this morning
[20:08] <TripleFFF> this resolution is such a pain
[20:11] <TripleFFF> ok stil cant format my sd card, cant find disk utility in settings or the blue menu thing, and the resolution makes all the windows too big for the screen
[20:32] <holstein> TripleFFF: i would just get a gparted live CD
[20:32] <holstein> !sudo
[20:32] <holstein> !gksudo
[20:32] <holstein> i assume you have tried to just set the resolution in arandr
[20:32] <holstein> TripleFFF: ^
[20:34] <Ubuntu_Issues> sorry for delay, scrolling and trying
[20:34] <Ubuntu_Issues> text is huge
[20:35] <Ubuntu_Issues> im getting four words a line at 540 x 480 om a 48 inch haha this sucks\
[20:36] <holstein> yup... i had the same issue on a TV once in windows XP
[20:48] <Ubuntu_Issues> uhoh whats an andrar
[20:48] <Ubuntu_Issues> I went to settings and display..
[20:49] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: try arandr
[20:49] <Ubuntu_Issues> I dont really know what that is
[20:50] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you can just open it
[20:51] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: run arandr from the menu
[20:51] <holstein> open a terminal and type "arandr"
[20:51] <len-dt> I don't think that will help... you need to use a really small default font. This is still not a guarantee as some programs will set their own font size. With TV resolutions you are looking below what _everything_ is designed for anymore. That is smaller than plain old VGA after all.
[20:51] <holstein> hit alt+f2 and type "arandr"
[20:51] <holstein> yup.. i dont think it will work.. and i assumed you had already tried it
[20:51] <Ubuntu_Issues> :) sorry google gave me a total blank
[20:52] <Ubuntu_Issues> its not doin anything
[20:52] <Ubuntu_Issues> its got a red circle with a line next to it
[20:52] <Ubuntu_Issues> :S
[20:52] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: it?
[20:53] <Ubuntu_Issues> hit alt f2 typed in andrar and nothin happened
[20:54] <Ubuntu_Issues> blast I think im gonna have to strip this system back
[20:55] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: arandr
[20:55] <holstein> its also in the muneu
[20:55] <holstein> menu*
[20:55] <Ubuntu_Issues> ahhh damn
[20:57] <Ubuntu_Issues> ok i checked all the options and im still only getting 640 res max
[20:58] <len-dt> makes sense that is the limit the TV gives you.
[20:59] <holstein> len-dt: Ubuntu_Issues says the TV gave him higher before an upgrade
[20:59] <Ubuntu_Issues> way higher
[20:59] <len-dt> Maybe it didn't know what it was feeding before...
[20:59] <Ubuntu_Issues> maybe my graphics drivers are gone
[21:00] <Ubuntu_Issues> the onboard one is a nvidia
[21:00] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: the graphics drivers are in the kernel... i would open a package manager and remove the latest kernel upgrade, effectively booting the last known good kernel
[21:00] <Ubuntu_Issues> :) thx len no worries this is a pretty long chat history
[21:00] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: or, check the xorg.conf that the nividia drive put in place likely
[21:02] <Ubuntu_Issues> the problem is, as soon as it restarts, it shows the (motherboard?) graphic and dos options, I tap shift the whole way anyway
[21:02] <len-dt> In settings->settings manager-> Appearance->Fonts there is a DPI setting that may help too.
[21:03] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you can remove the upgraded kernel from where you are now
[21:03] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you can view the xorg.conf from where you are now
[21:03] <Ubuntu_Issues> can I do it without the boot screen?
[21:04] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you can do it from where you are right now. the desktop.. as is.. all blown up
[21:04] <len-dt> Also, I find that Settings->settings manager->Display does some things a bit better than A/x RanadR
[21:04] <holstein> right now
[21:04] <Ubuntu_Issues> As soon as anything boots, the display screws up
[21:04] <Ubuntu_Issues> im guessing its trying to run an invalid resolution, and then it times out and defaults to.. THISS
[21:04] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: with the display "screwed up" you can view the xorg.conf, or remove the last kernel
[21:05] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you can use the tab-click to move the window around
[21:05] <Ubuntu_Issues> youre a lifesaver
[21:05] <Ubuntu_Issues> both of you
[21:06] <Ubuntu_Issues> got the dpi down to 80 and I can finally see the bottom of the screens
[21:07] <Ubuntu_Issues> workable workaround :P Im gonna live with it! Thanks heaps roomies! I need a drink haha
[21:08] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you can hod the tab key, click and drag *any* window around
[21:08] <holstein> hold*
[21:09] <Ubuntu_Issues> at the old dpi the display window wouldnt move and its not resizable vertically
[21:09] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you can hold the tab key, and click and drag them around
[21:10] <holstein> Ubuntu_Issues: you wont need to resize, you can just drag them around and get to what you need to get to
[21:11] <holstein> holding down tha tab key, and hovering the mouse over *any* part of a window, then holding down the main left mouse button and draging them around with the mouse... with the tab and the moust button held down
[21:11] <Ubuntu_Issues> it was hitting the top of the screen it was ridiculous
[21:12] <Ubuntu_Issues> custom dpi was at 140 because I had it at 1080
[21:12] <holstein> it?
[21:12] <holstein> you can drag it past the top of the screen
[21:13] <Ubuntu_Issues> how do you do a blush emoticon on IRC....
[21:15] <Ubuntu_Issues> cheers for the tips, im gonna live with it for now :P suns coming up so im gonna get drunk and probably head to beach
[23:12] <FloatingGoat> hey how do i install the realtime kernel in 12.04
[23:12] <FloatingGoat> ?
[23:13] <len-dt> Are you sure you need it? Normally lowlatency is enough.
[23:13] <FloatingGoat> well jack is lagging
[23:14] <len-dt> Meaning?
[23:16] <FloatingGoat> idk
[23:16] <FloatingGoat> like
[23:16] <FloatingGoat> if i play guiatar pluck a string
[23:16] <FloatingGoat> when its ran through jack
[23:16] <FloatingGoat> the sound output is just a hair off
[23:16] <FloatingGoat> but its easy to notice when playing guitar/singing
[23:17] <len-dt> Using guitarix or something?
[23:17] <FloatingGoat> well rakarak
[23:17] <FloatingGoat> but also using jack rack with vocals seems to lag a little too
[23:18] <len-dt> So you are using it as a live filter or for recording?
[23:18] <FloatingGoat> sorta yeah
[23:19] <FloatingGoat> but just to get a rough idea
[23:20] <len-dt> For live work, jack needs to be set with frames/period to max 128, 64 or less is better.
[23:20] <len-dt> But if you are recording at the same time 128 is probably as good as you will get.
[23:21] <len-dt> It depends on the HW. Mine is older.
[23:22] <FloatingGoat> okay im going to try it out
[23:30] <FloatingGoat> len-dt: your the best bro, always helpin a brotha out
[23:37] <len-dt> It depends on the HW. Mine is older.