=== scott_ is now known as Guest33682 [11:40] whats the best way to record guitar? looped at every 4th beat or try to play through the whole song? [11:41] Now where is ailo!? [11:41] HE would be the best to answer this [11:41] Also len-dt maybe [11:42] he answers a lot of my questions lol [11:45] i guess i could ask again tomorrow [11:45] or later today === _dancer is now known as MOSMarauder [18:20] Hey guys ive got maaajor resolution issues [18:20] just did an update and im stuck at 640 x 480 [18:21] does anyone know any way to rollback all updates or force resolution? [18:23] Ubuntu_Issues: i would just try the old kernel [18:23] sorry im a real new user here :) [18:23] i would look and see if a proprietary driver installation has installed a custom xorg.conf and that it looks as expected [18:23] just upgraded from win 7 [18:24] Ubuntu_Issues: thats not an upgrade [18:24] I have absolutely no idea how to [18:24] Ubuntu_Issues: thats a different operating system [18:24] oh hey holstein! I used to be known as presonus :P [18:24] Ubuntu_Issues: i was assuming an upgrade had broken your display [18:24] Ubuntu_Issues: i would just look for a proprietary driver [18:24] yeah it seems to have, I didnt have a problem till I rebooted [18:25] Ubuntu_Issues: ok.. then try the earlier kerne [18:25] ok sorry for stupiud questions but what is a kernal -facepalm- and how do I try an earlier one [18:25] I used the damn updater [18:26] well, you can search around and find out what a kernel is if you need [18:26] no idea about terminal window.. yet [18:26] but im learning [18:26] at boot, you'll see a list of boot options [18:26] if you dont, you can either tap shift to show them, or refer to [18:26] !grub2 [18:26] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [18:26] hmmmm [18:27] I dont have grub installed i dont think [18:27] you'll find the last kernel that was working in the list under "previous entries" or something like that [18:27] it boots straight to ustudio [18:27] Ubuntu_Issues: you can confirm that if you'd like, by referring to that link i gave you [18:27] Ubuntu_Issues: but, if linux is booting, and you installed from the default installation CD, you have grub [18:28] booted from usb, installed to hd [18:28] it auto boots, no options [18:28] is there ashortcut key I need to hit? [18:28] it was a blank drive in a blak machine [18:28] *blank [18:29] sorry for text formatting, my zoom is all fucked since my resolution is huge [18:29] Ubuntu_Issues: you can tap shift to show the boot menu as i mentioned earlier, or you can refer to that link [18:29] Ubuntu_Issues: this is a troubleshooting step.. try the earlier kernel [18:29] oh ok cool I missed it, my window is TINY [18:29] thanks man rebooting and trying now [18:33] Hey rebooted and back [18:33] im getting invalid format on my display until it boots [18:33] cant access any menus [18:33] is there anything I can do from the terminal to force resolution? [18:34] oh good my nick timed out === Ubuntu_lUser is now known as Ubuntu_Issues [18:37] Ubuntu_Issues: you tried the earlier kernel? [18:37] is there an earlier kernel? [18:37] there are recovery options, and one of them is graphics [18:37] thats in that menu that im still not sure you are getting to or not [18:38] sirry bad crash [18:38] no chat history, I cant log into xchat cos the buttons are off the screen [18:39] SUCH a pain [18:39] does anyone know a way to force resolution? [18:39] thx :) [18:40] there are recovery options, and one of them is graphics [18:40] thats in that menu that im still not sure you are getting to or not [18:40] Ubuntu_Issues: you can put an xorg.conf in place [18:40] cant get any boot menus [18:40] you can remove the kernel upgrade asssuming thats what has caused the issme [18:40] issue* [18:40] Ubuntu_Issues: you'll need to tap shift, or refer to that link i gave on how to unhide the grub menu [18:40] cant access kernal menu, invalid format warning on my screen [18:41] Ubuntu_Issues: then thats screen related [18:41] cant get to grub. no display till the desktop loads [18:41] Ubuntu_Issues: i would look and see if you have changed any settings there [18:41] screen was running fine till I updated and rebooted [18:42] Ubuntu_Issues: then, if you are early one, maybe just reinstall, and dont update [18:42] damn I dont have time to :P I was hoping it was any easy command line to force resolution :) sitting round with a bunch of mates smashed as hell [18:43] playing music its like 5am here [18:43] oops 7am man im wasted [18:44] googled it a few times but couldnt find anything that worked :) thats why I logged on here [18:44] Ubuntu_Issues: you can explore those options i gave earlier [18:44] really appreciate your guys help thanks heaps [18:44] you can try #xubuntu or #ubuntu since this is not really an ubuntustudio issue [18:45] yep rebooted a few times hence the nick change holstein, cant get grub menu [18:45] Ubuntu_Issues: you can if you edit the menu in tty [18:45] Ubuntu_Issues: have you tried tty? [18:45] Ubuntu_Issues: have you tried checking out that linke? [18:45] !grub2 [18:45] dumbass question whats a tty [18:45] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [18:45] im so sorry :P I know I must look like a retard haha [18:45] Ubuntu_Issues: that is another way of getting to your system [18:45] Ubuntu_Issues: you look frustrated and rightly so [18:46] Ubuntu_Issues: you'll need to be patient and ready to try some troubleshootins steps though to resolve this [18:46] haha its not so much that ive lost grub, cos it is loading, but the resolution its loading in isnt supported by my tv [18:46] Ubuntu_Issues: reinstalling should take about 20 minutes.. that would be the easiest [18:46] Ubuntu_Issues: you didnt "lose" grub [18:47] Ubuntu_Issues: you *never* said tv til just now [18:47] oh crap sorry [18:47] Ubuntu_Issues: i would get to a monitor.. make life easier [18:47] set it up there, and then go to the TV [18:47] tv has vga input [18:47] Ubuntu_Issues: sure... and hows that working for you? [18:47] cant get to a monitor today [18:47] Ubuntu_Issues: you *can* sort this out with the tv, but id have to be there [18:48] Ubuntu_Issues: i would just reinstall and dont update [18:48] just dont update til you know what you are doing a little more and you have more hardware for troubleshooting purposes [18:48] yeah ill have to reinstall tomorrow when my heads clear :P all my windows are off the screen and its driving me nuts [18:49] yeah definately, I installed all the updates I could find cos im trying new firewire card [18:49] im the guy that had the firewire problems [18:49] didnt expect it to screw with the display [18:49] it might not have [18:50] its not a display anyways, its a TV [18:50] thats an extra layer of complexity that you might not want to deal with [18:50] for the record I bloody love ustudio its awesome [18:50] well its a plasma [18:50] but yeah tv, it showed up as a standard monitor untill I updated [18:50] *-l [18:50] if it were me, i would just go in with a live CD and put an xorg.conf in place [18:50] OR, ssh in [18:51] its an empty box im perfectly happy to open it up [18:52] ill have to reburn an iso to usb and redo it, internet is pretty crap here so thats atlease a 3 hour ordeal [18:52] sorry for spelling, all my typing is offscreen bc of resolution [18:53] internet doesnt have anything to do with it [18:53] just use the one you have already downloaded [18:54] make a USB stick reinstall.. you should be done in 20 minutes [18:54] already blanked the damn usb to transfer my files [18:54] sure, use the iso you have downloaded [18:54] and the iso is on my dead windows box [18:55] nightmarrrre [18:55] Ubuntu_Issues: you have no live diagnostic CD's? [18:55] nope [18:55] no optical drive [18:55] :P [18:55] maybe just download a lighter one.. puppy... ubcd [18:55] get the iso off the windows box [18:55] puppy is awesome :) I just really love ustudiop [18:56] the sequncing program is prefect for writing drums [18:56] and geequie is amazing for my photography [18:56] im not suggestion you use puppy instead [18:56] o really? I may have puppy lying around [18:56] im staying the puppy iso is under 200mb's and you need a live diagonistics CD anyways [18:57] Ubuntu_Issues: when i say "you have no live diagnostic CD's" thats what im asking [18:57] *anything* that boots up live.. right now.. that you can get that iso off the "dead" windows box with [18:57] then, you transfer instead of download [18:57] remake a USB. boot.. install.. enjoy [18:57] mobo is dead, nothings comin off it without a hd transfer [18:58] Ubuntu_Issues: i would take the hard drive to another machine ..plug it in [18:59] or, just q up the iso download [18:59] stupid asus hp box has these green shit in the way its gonna be a cunty teardown [19:00] qing up the dl now [19:00] asus hp? [19:00] whatever... if its trash, its trash... tear it down with a hammer [19:00] yeah its a bastard pc :P [19:00] i can only offer solutions... i dont deal with limitations well [19:01] i just get things done, or throw them out [19:01] :P im in the resurrection business haha building a junkyard network [19:01] sure... but if its trash, its trash [19:01] got a bunch of boxes out of the trash - broke student artist [19:01] either he mobo is dead or not [19:01] yup.. i got a stack of those as well [19:04] well one box had a mobo that worked, one had a power supply and the other four had 3 gigs each of hd :P [19:05] so, you can build a functional machine, and get the info from the hard drive [19:05] resurrected a laptop with puppy linux and it worked well so I thought id go for a serious ubuntu install, and this is the first one thats worked [19:06] I know my questions are pretty stupid but im learning :P thanks so much for your patience [19:07] i dont think your questions are stupid... you have some excuses mixed in with the questions though [19:08] yep! Probably due to inexperience [19:09] if you can spot what the excuses are def call me on it :) ill be as honest as I can [19:09] its challenging... you really got to be willing to tinker since no one is getting paid to make sure your linux experience is "good" on your hardware [19:09] OR, buy something with linux already on it, like from system76 [19:09] but, i feel confident we can get you going in the right direction here [19:09] Heres the story from boot, I get my DOS screen, then nothing but a blank invalid format display until the desktop loads with a default monitor showing only 2 resolution options [19:10] you can force different options with a custom xorg.conf [19:11] cant afford to buy anything, im on student allowance and trying to get a computer thatll do my projects without actually shelling out more than a hundy :P [19:11] and im so close! [19:11] i didnt mean to imply that was mandatory [19:12] oh good :P started wondering if ive pushed my hardware luck to capacity [19:12] its a dual core though but ddr2 ram so kinda old [19:13] i can do anything i do on a p4 with a gig of ram [19:13] 512 prolloy [19:13] wow! [19:14] I resurrected a p2, ive got 4 p4s in my junk server atm [19:14] working my way up with ubuntu so I can attack it once ive got more knowledge [19:14] its a long road though [19:14] ive got the stickability, just trying not to piss off my few avenues of help haha [19:15] is unetbootin the program to load isos to in ubuntu? Or do you guys use a better one [19:16] thats what I used on my win7 box before I formatted it [19:16] unet is the one i use... there are plenty and "better" is a matter of opinion [19:16] good, as long as 'junk' isnt in the description, I know windows ports are dodgy sometimes [19:16] unet is in the repos [19:17] its well supported [19:20] right! unet installing, gona roll right back to a clean install and leaave the updates off [19:21] is there somewhere with update advice I can check to decide whats vital and what isnt? [19:21] once again, apologies for the spelling, I cringe every time [19:21] Ubuntu_Issues: i would just learn for now [19:21] Ubuntu_Issues: if you get some more "generic" hardware, you can run a normal setup [19:22] kernel upgrades can break things [19:22] problem is ive got no contingency, so if I take it offline I can't get online to check any help files, so I make hard copy note before I do anything [19:22] they can also add functionality [19:22] its the only box in the house thats working now [19:23] Ubuntu_Issues: if its not "online" then theres nothing to worry about security wise [19:23] I cannibalised everything to get it running [19:23] not security wise, as in if something fucks out and doesnt install I cant google the error to fix it [19:23] its a blank box I dont care about security atm theres nothing on it [19:23] if you arent online, you wont be installing anything anyways [19:24] operating systems [19:24] ustudio installer screwed up for weeks when I tried to load it [19:24] i dont take updates or install anything while installing the OS [19:25] Ubuntu_Issues: it worked first time and everytime for me [19:25] i had issues taking upgrades while installing so i dont anymore [19:25] example: With puppy I had to load another program first to recognise the usb port and boot from it, I wouldnt have known that if I hadnt hit up puppylinuxs chatroom and asked [19:26] either your machine boots USB or it doesnt [19:26] you needed something like plop? [19:26] cant remember the name but the menu looked like the old ps2 screens [19:26] yeah plop! [19:26] thats got nothing to do with puppy [19:26] thats because you have legacy hardware that doesnt USB boot [19:26] THANKS! My windows machine needs it, and google as I might I couldnt find the name [19:26] *any* thing you want to boot from USB will require that [19:27] yeah it was oooold :P [19:27] acer aspire [19:27] no cd drive, ony floppy! I nearly took it fully apart to get at the hd till someone mentioned plop [19:33] Can I ask some dumb questions? Do you guys use utorrent or is there a special linux one? What about winamp? Are there any common applications I SHOULDNT install? (Acrobat, Office etc) [19:33] im 26 btw not 13, I'm reading back over these questions and realising I actually know stuff all about linux [19:34] :P [19:34] i dont think there is winamp for linux, though nothing about linux or ubuntu prevents winamp from making a version for it [19:34] there are *lots* of media player.. i always come back to VLC [19:34] !vlc [19:34] Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs [19:34] i dont torrent things, though i have hosted iso's for friends [19:35] there are defaults in the main ubuntu distro, and in xubuntu [19:35] there are plenty of torrent applications [19:35] Im using Audacious atm, but I really loved the visualisations in winamp, can you run these on audacious? The matrix screensaver is doing fine for now, I freakin love this OS [19:35] transmission was the torrent application i used [19:36] Ubuntu_Issues: there are plenty of heavy application for media playback with visualization [19:36] Ubuntu_Issues: i would look at one of the big ones... rhythymbox or banshee or amarok [19:37] i dont install adobe acrobat reader since we have pdf viewers and adobe has been causeing some unecessary sucurity risks with th reader application [19:37] i dont use microsoft office, i use either google docs online, or libre office, which is in the repos [19:38] i would take it slow, and just ask [19:38] oops did I get kicked or did I accidentally quit [19:38] "i want visualizations" [19:38] sorry mods if i did [19:38] Ustudio_Somethin: no one kicked you or got kicked [19:38] ok cool im using a webchat atm so no chat history or server window [19:39] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1219270/ [19:39] ^ history [19:39] i would try and just "get your feet wet" [19:39] Im going back to my screen name to make things easier [19:39] :) === Ustudio_Somethin is now known as TripleFFF [19:39] think about how long you used windows before you started using winamp, or even knew what a visualization was [19:40] i mean, i could be doing the same.. showing up with windows asking about apt-get and repositories [19:40] these are different operating systems, and i urge you to take a more open-minded computer science approach like "how can i accomplishe this task" rather than "how can i exaclty emulate the experience that im used to" [19:41] -whoosh for now- I dedicate myself to learning what the heck that means [19:42] :) I'd love to! I think I just don't know how to ask, as I don't know the capabilities yet [19:42] you say "how do i get visualizations in my media player" [19:42] instead of "is there anything like winamp" [19:42] and what I think is the only possible way to do something is the most difficult, since its using mostly windows knowledge [19:43] ok cool! [19:43] I get you, winamp is the best possible thing I could think of [19:43] sure, and i just happened to have used winamp [19:43] so i know what you are asking.. but we have lots of visualization options [19:45] if a person is new to computers, i think its easier just sit down and use linux... its the switching that is challenging [19:45] can you recommend any cool linux media players with visualizations that are comparable to something like milkdrop [19:46] theres a certain level of functinalitiy that a user expects that has taken years to cultivate, and they want that immediately [19:46] TripleFFF: i would try one of the major big ones.. like i mentioned above... rhythymbox.. banshee, amarok [19:47] http://linuxrevolution.blogspot.com/2007/11/howto-get-more-visualizations-in.html [19:47] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/enable-visualisations-in-banshee-ubuntu [19:48] http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Amarok_1.4/User_Guides/ProjectM_HowTo [19:48] amarok will pull in a bunch of KDE stuff... though it is quite nice [19:49] have you had any experiences with the visualisation control? We use winamp a lot at dance parties for the screens [19:50] TripleFFF: i dont do visualizations.. the most if done is disable the automatic ones in rythymbox [19:50] there are plenty of nice ones... JACK ones [19:57] Ok I desperately need to know how to format a drive as /root or whatever it is [19:57] my phone locked my sd card as read only and now I cant record to it [19:57] we're in the middle of a jam session [19:58] I need to format it [19:59] drives recognised, but it says error creating trash item [19:59] oops thats where my other login went [20:00] test [20:00] damn multi desktop voodoo [20:01] sorry if theres another way to ask that, umm does anyone know how to zero write an sd card from the terminal as admin? [20:05] I tried googling, wikihow said to install gparted Ubuntu but I got htis Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package gparte [20:05] oops just read it, sorry for the flood, my eyes arent so good this morning [20:08] this resolution is such a pain [20:11] ok stil cant format my sd card, cant find disk utility in settings or the blue menu thing, and the resolution makes all the windows too big for the screen [20:32] TripleFFF: i would just get a gparted live CD [20:32] !sudo [20:32] sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo [20:32] !gksudo [20:32] If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) [20:32] i assume you have tried to just set the resolution in arandr [20:32] TripleFFF: ^ [20:34] sorry for delay, scrolling and trying [20:34] text is huge [20:35] im getting four words a line at 540 x 480 om a 48 inch haha this sucks\ [20:36] yup... i had the same issue on a TV once in windows XP [20:48] uhoh whats an andrar [20:48] I went to settings and display.. [20:49] Ubuntu_Issues: try arandr [20:49] I dont really know what that is [20:50] Ubuntu_Issues: you can just open it [20:51] Ubuntu_Issues: run arandr from the menu [20:51] open a terminal and type "arandr" [20:51] I don't think that will help... you need to use a really small default font. This is still not a guarantee as some programs will set their own font size. With TV resolutions you are looking below what _everything_ is designed for anymore. That is smaller than plain old VGA after all. [20:51] hit alt+f2 and type "arandr" [20:51] yup.. i dont think it will work.. and i assumed you had already tried it [20:51] :) sorry google gave me a total blank [20:52] its not doin anything [20:52] its got a red circle with a line next to it [20:52] :S [20:52] Ubuntu_Issues: it? [20:53] hit alt f2 typed in andrar and nothin happened [20:54] blast I think im gonna have to strip this system back [20:55] Ubuntu_Issues: arandr [20:55] its also in the muneu [20:55] menu* [20:55] ahhh damn [20:57] ok i checked all the options and im still only getting 640 res max [20:58] makes sense that is the limit the TV gives you. [20:59] len-dt: Ubuntu_Issues says the TV gave him higher before an upgrade [20:59] way higher [20:59] Maybe it didn't know what it was feeding before... [20:59] maybe my graphics drivers are gone [21:00] the onboard one is a nvidia [21:00] Ubuntu_Issues: the graphics drivers are in the kernel... i would open a package manager and remove the latest kernel upgrade, effectively booting the last known good kernel [21:00] :) thx len no worries this is a pretty long chat history [21:00] Ubuntu_Issues: or, check the xorg.conf that the nividia drive put in place likely [21:02] the problem is, as soon as it restarts, it shows the (motherboard?) graphic and dos options, I tap shift the whole way anyway [21:02] In settings->settings manager-> Appearance->Fonts there is a DPI setting that may help too. [21:03] Ubuntu_Issues: you can remove the upgraded kernel from where you are now [21:03] Ubuntu_Issues: you can view the xorg.conf from where you are now [21:03] can I do it without the boot screen? [21:04] Ubuntu_Issues: you can do it from where you are right now. the desktop.. as is.. all blown up [21:04] Also, I find that Settings->settings manager->Display does some things a bit better than A/x RanadR [21:04] right now [21:04] As soon as anything boots, the display screws up [21:04] im guessing its trying to run an invalid resolution, and then it times out and defaults to.. THISS [21:04] Ubuntu_Issues: with the display "screwed up" you can view the xorg.conf, or remove the last kernel [21:05] Ubuntu_Issues: you can use the tab-click to move the window around [21:05] youre a lifesaver [21:05] both of you [21:06] got the dpi down to 80 and I can finally see the bottom of the screens [21:07] workable workaround :P Im gonna live with it! Thanks heaps roomies! I need a drink haha [21:08] Ubuntu_Issues: you can hod the tab key, click and drag *any* window around [21:08] hold* [21:09] at the old dpi the display window wouldnt move and its not resizable vertically [21:09] Ubuntu_Issues: you can hold the tab key, and click and drag them around [21:10] Ubuntu_Issues: you wont need to resize, you can just drag them around and get to what you need to get to [21:11] holding down tha tab key, and hovering the mouse over *any* part of a window, then holding down the main left mouse button and draging them around with the mouse... with the tab and the moust button held down [21:11] it was hitting the top of the screen it was ridiculous [21:12] custom dpi was at 140 because I had it at 1080 [21:12] it? [21:12] you can drag it past the top of the screen [21:13] how do you do a blush emoticon on IRC.... [21:15] cheers for the tips, im gonna live with it for now :P suns coming up so im gonna get drunk and probably head to beach === hg is now known as Guest33811 [23:12] hey how do i install the realtime kernel in 12.04 [23:12] ? [23:13] Are you sure you need it? Normally lowlatency is enough. [23:13] well jack is lagging [23:14] Meaning? [23:16] idk [23:16] like [23:16] if i play guiatar pluck a string [23:16] when its ran through jack [23:16] the sound output is just a hair off [23:16] but its easy to notice when playing guitar/singing [23:17] Using guitarix or something? [23:17] well rakarak [23:17] but also using jack rack with vocals seems to lag a little too [23:18] So you are using it as a live filter or for recording? [23:18] sorta yeah [23:19] but just to get a rough idea [23:20] For live work, jack needs to be set with frames/period to max 128, 64 or less is better. [23:20] But if you are recording at the same time 128 is probably as good as you will get. [23:21] It depends on the HW. Mine is older. [23:22] okay im going to try it out [23:30] len-dt: your the best bro, always helpin a brotha out [23:37] It depends on the HW. Mine is older.