| jnadeau | hello | 00:17 |
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| knome | hullo | 00:20 |
| jnadeau | i have a question | 00:20 |
| knome | go ahead | 00:20 |
| jnadeau | i'm a blind user and I'm running xubuntu with orca | 00:20 |
| jnadeau | i've managed to get xfce to be accessible with orca but have one problem | 00:21 |
| jnadeau | firefox and thunderbird are very accessible under gnome and I can't get them accessible under xfce any ideas | 00:21 |
| knome | i have followed the discussion on the mailing list, and unfortunately i don't have any ideas | 00:23 |
| jnadeau | Yeah I can't figure it out and its driving me crazy | 00:23 |
| knome | have you tried asking #ubuntu-accessibility? | 00:23 |
| knome | i know that's not explicitly xubuntu, but they might have some ideas | 00:24 |
| jnadeau | i'm running xubuntu right now but if I log out and into gnome firefox and thunderbird are accessible but if I log back into xfce they become unaccessible again | 00:24 |
| knome | yes, i'm aware of that | 00:24 |
| jnadeau | Yeah I will try ubuntu accessibility thanks for your time and help. | 00:25 |
| jnadeau | Also xubuntu is looking really great | 00:25 |
| jnadeau | i'm running 12.10 right now | 00:25 |
| knome | hmm, no offense meant, but if you are bling, how can you see? :) | 00:26 |
| knome | heh, blind, not bling... | 00:26 |
| jnadeau | I don't understand what you are asking i'm sorry | 00:26 |
| knome | jnadeau, i link "looking great" with seeing | 00:27 |
| jnadeau | well I mean looking great from my point of view | 00:27 |
| knome | jnadeau, heh, yeah. thanks for the feedback :) | 00:27 |
| jnadeau | like the way it runs and its performance | 00:27 |
| knome | it's actually good to know we have users with accessibility issues too | 00:28 |
| knome | and that we can actually deliver a usable experience | 00:28 |
| jnadeau | Yeah it's great outside of the whole firefox and thunderbird thing | 00:28 |
| knome | do you have any browser and/or mail app that you can use meanwhile? | 00:29 |
| jnadeau | not really thats why it is such a big problem | 00:29 |
| jnadeau | no other browsers are accessible | 00:29 |
| jnadeau | and evolution is full of accessibility bugs | 00:30 |
| micahg | hrm, we should have the accessibility stuff installed | 00:32 |
| knome | jnadeau, do you have the package 'at-spi' installed? | 00:32 |
| jnadeau | yes I do | 00:32 |
| jnadeau | I also checked the accessibility box in the xfce menu | 00:33 |
| jnadeau | and checked the box to start the extra gnome things to see if that would help but still nothing | 00:33 |
| knome | jnadeau, can you try this: | 00:34 |
| jnadeau | sure | 00:34 |
| knome | jnadeau, create .gtkrc-2.0 file in your home dir, and add the following line: | 00:34 |
| knome | jnadeau, gtk-modules="gail:atk-bridge" | 00:34 |
| jnadeau | I did add this but I put it in my .bashrc file | 00:35 |
| jnadeau | so i should create this folder instead and put it there | 00:35 |
| knome | file, and yes, you could try if it works | 00:35 |
| jnadeau | I also put this in my .profile to see if that would help and it didn't work either | 00:36 |
| jnadeau | where should I create that folder | 00:37 |
| knome | if you add that to .profile or .bashrc, i think the line should be "export GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge" | 00:37 |
| knome | create the *file* .gtkrc-2.0 in your home folder | 00:37 |
| jnadeau | yes that is how I put it in | 00:37 |
| knome | okay | 00:37 |
| knome | then i doubt this other fix will help, but you can always try | 00:37 |
| jnadeau | I will try anything | 00:38 |
| jnadeau | hang on and I'll create that folder | 00:38 |
| jnadeau | okay I created the file | 00:44 |
| jnadeau | do I have to log out | 00:44 |
| knome | at least it won't hurt if you do | 00:44 |
| jnadeau | just to make sure I did the right thing I opened leafpad and created the file .gtkrc-2.0 and put in that command | 00:45 |
| knome | yes | 00:45 |
| jnadeau | okay i'll be back thanks for all your help | 00:45 |
| knome | np | 00:45 |
| jnadeau | no it didn't work | 00:52 |
| jnadeau | but I think I might have found the problem possibly | 00:52 |
| jnadeau | so thanks again for all your time and help. | 00:53 |
| pleia2 | knome: first draft of doc post for xubuntu.org is up | 05:06 |
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| knome | we fit on CD's :) | 11:06 |
| SkippersBoss | CONGRATS | 11:08 |
| SkippersBoss | so the 450k has been found | 11:08 |
| elfy | :) | 11:09 |
| knome | no... we lost it | 11:10 |
| knome | that's why we fit ;) | 11:10 |
| SkippersBoss | lol | 11:11 |
| SkippersBoss | Now you guys get some sleep | 11:11 |
| SkippersBoss | well deserved | 11:11 |
| * knome is afraid it'll find our new address though | 11:11 | |
| * knome hides | 11:11 | |
| knome | hah, i just woke up ;) | 11:11 |
| SkippersBoss | some1 is in a happy mood today | 11:11 |
| knome | well, a few hours ago... | 11:11 |
| knome | i'm just pretending | 11:11 |
| SkippersBoss | I know the feeling | 11:12 |
| knome | no reason to be grumpy and bath in the depression either so... | 11:12 |
| SkippersBoss | till the next deadline lol | 11:13 |
| knome | not too much to do for Q an more | 11:13 |
| elfy | as far as I can see from here - the only things not working in quantal are the indicators - but from what I can see that's a way off and the double partitions thing - no idea what's going on with that | 11:18 |
| elfy | I for one applaud those who've done what they have | 11:18 |
| olbi | I saw yesterday on LiveCD that sound icon appear in indicator :D | 11:25 |
| olbi | and works good | 11:25 |
| elfy | working here too olbi - had to re-add the indicator thing | 11:39 |
| olbi | :) | 11:45 |
| SkippersBoss | excuse my ignorance but what is Yelp ? | 15:59 |
| pleia2 | help browser (rather than using firefox) | 16:01 |
| SkippersBoss | Ah your ladyship... : Hmm Yes we want to (in my opinion) | 16:03 |
| SkippersBoss | Help files/documentation needs to be accessable with a minimum of fuz in my opnion. | 16:04 |
| pleia2 | well, you'd still launch it in the same way, just by going to "Help" in the menu :) | 16:05 |
| SkippersBoss | ff has too many distracting bells nd whistles | 16:05 |
| pleia2 | not sure if it's an lighter application | 16:05 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 16:05 |
| SkippersBoss | Most people got FF loaded up with at least Adblock and maybe autopager | 16:06 |
| SkippersBoss | SO my personal preferance would be a simple browser | 16:07 |
| micahg | the problem is w/out yelp/gnome-user-docs, some of the applications won't have help | 16:07 |
| pleia2 | so it probably makes sense for our stuff to use yelp, if we need it anyway | 16:08 |
| SkippersBoss | that's solves that issue then | 16:08 |
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| micahg | \o/ looks like xfce 4.12 will have some gtk3 support | 21:45 |
| micahg | which is good as we'll probably have that + some pieces of 4.14 for 14.04 | 21:45 |
| pleia2 | :D | 21:46 |
| knome | micahg, yeah, i read the same; hoorahh! | 22:17 |
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