[03:31] <navar> Anyone tried to install via 12.04 alternative iso on usb stick?
[03:39] <kanliot> should work
[03:39] <kanliot> navar
[03:40] <navar> complains mid-install about incorrect cd via some check.  I see now from some further digging a cdrom-detect/try-usb=boolean kernel option I'll revise in the grub cfg and give it another go.
[03:41] <kanliot> what's the exact error
[03:41] <kanliot> and can you verify cd files?
[03:42] <kanliot> i don't think this is a common problem
[03:44] <navar> exact error is just the (ncurses?) text installation window stating incorrect installation cdrom (once past keyboard selection, etc.)
[03:46] <navar> hoping https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrom-detect/+bug/234185 is related to the issue so I can get past it.
[03:47] <kanliot> hmm i guess it possibly could be usb-creator
[03:47] <kanliot> is that what you used?
[03:48] <kanliot> to create the cd
[03:48] <kanliot> ?
[03:48] <navar> no, manually
[03:50] <navar> i have a number of isos loadable from the stick in question.  This just happens to be an aging problematic donated system with flaky cdrom drives.  I had to get plop going to boot from usb and so on.
[03:50] <kanliot> how much ram do you have?
[03:51] <kanliot> i would try dd
[03:51] <navar> prior I was trying to do mint cinnamon, but ubiquity seems to flake out in the end (useradd commit isn't occuring so mdm is hosed, nor is grub install occuring, had to do manually).  Gave up on that.
[03:51] <navar> it's 384 MB.
[03:51] <navar> downloading the desktop iso to perhaps try later... but was hoping the alternate would go fine.  This is only issue so far...
[03:52] <kanliot> you can use the desktop
[03:52] <kanliot> with 384
[03:52] <kanliot> if you have a swap file
[03:52] <navar> currently an active swap partition set off, so yes.
[03:52] <navar> just wary of ubiquity stalling (window just disappears near the end with active mouse cursor forever).
[03:53] <navar> looking at top basically indicates nothing is going on anymore. :)
[03:53] <kanliot> that sounds like ubiquity
[03:53] <kanliot> but with a swap file it should be ok
[03:53] <kanliot> as long as you don't remove it during the install
[03:56] <navar> Yeah that was my thought when I was trying to check out mint.
[04:07] <navar> wow adding cdrom-check/try-usb=true caused a kernel panic. :/  More details are that this is being manually done via grub's loopback feature for iso images.  The only partitions it claims to see at that point are sr0 and sr1.
[04:07] <kanliot> dd
[04:07] <navar> Hopefully I don't have to hack the initrd.
[04:08] <navar> I wouldn't want to dd overwrite the existing vfat partition on the usb stick.  At worse, I'd extract the iso into a path on it and non-loop boot it that way.
[04:10] <navar> I'll give the desktop variant a try here in a minute, presuming it's the normal casper setup.  I've made that work many times on this, but the ubiquity installs on this old system seem problematic.
[04:16] <tarvid> I've become dependent on the google-talk plugin; am I going to be in trouble on Lubuntu
[04:23] <kanliot> works here
[04:23] <kanliot> just download it
[04:24] <tarvid> thanks
[04:24] <tarvid> actually having some problems with chrome on Ubuntu
[04:25] <kanliot> we have lots of chromium probs
[04:25] <kanliot> but i use firefox myslef
[04:25] <tarvid> I have been also; chrome works flawlessly on Vista
[04:27] <kanliot> it does
[04:31] <navar> tarvid: chrome (well google-chrome, not sure on chromium specifically) works well on gentoo.  Problems ran into on pre-64bit AMD CPUs and their internal pepperflash plugin code from adobe forcing SSE2 instructions (late version 19 to early 20).
[04:32] <tarvid> I have an old CF-R1 that I really like in my car but XP thrashes and I was hoping Lubuntu would carry the load better
[04:34] <tarvid> Is there a good ssid finder for Lubuntu; I do a lot of war driving
[04:34] <tarvid> kismet is too hard to use while driving
[04:35] <kanliot> we're just a simple country distro.  try our homemade apple butter
[04:35] <navar> lol :)
[04:36] <tarvid> tis the season here in the mountains of Virginia
[04:36] <kanliot> TN here
[04:38] <tarvid> Doing fiber and wireless installs
[04:39] <tarvid> If I can figure out how to sink VLAN assignments I can do the administrivia on the road too
[04:39] <tarvid> Cell phones are unreliable
[04:41] <tarvid> Hanging on a 14km link here and the little laptop is also better when climbing up hills
[04:41] <tarvid> Parabolic is a bit of a pain
[04:47] <tarvid> Thanks for the chat; I'll do something tomorrow
[08:22] <silverarrow> why are there no bluetooth for lubuntu ppc?
[08:25] <silverarrow> from the edges of the world
[08:25] <surt> Hello, can anyone help me find an alternative to compiz' zoom and/or magnifier plugin...that works in a lubuntu session?
[08:26] <surt> giant screen size 8 font...great most days but kind of tricky after a long day
[08:26] <silverarrow> sorry, I hardly ever use compiz
[08:26] <surt> Well...how about just a screen magnifier?
[08:27] <surt> I know about xzoom, but it just sits in one spot without following the cursor's movement...
[08:27] <silverarrow> I have used projector with libre office impress
[08:28] <silverarrow> vga or hdmi connection ?
[08:29] <surt> That's slideshow software...
[08:30] <silverarrow> yeah
[08:30] <surt> But I need a system magnifier
[08:31] <silverarrow> you need someone who uses it
[08:32] <silverarrow> surt, have you tried the ubuntu channel?
[08:33] <silverarrow> ...only because there are more activity there at the moment
[08:33] <surt> Yeah mate. Don't worry I'll source something.
[10:01] <ddyyllaann> Bonjour
[10:03] <ddyyllaann> Bonjour tootai
[10:03] <tootai> Bonjour
[10:03] <ddyyllaann> Vous aussi vous utiliser Lubuntu ?
[10:04] <bioterror> !fr | ddyyllaann
[10:04] <tootai> yes (attention, c'est une liste en anglais)
[10:05] <ddyyllaann> Ah sorry, but is there a channel for lubuntu in French
[10:05] <bioterror> no
[10:06] <bioterror> it's english here or #ubuntu-fr or the quebec one ;)
[10:06] <ddyyllaann> Fortunately, there are translation system to speak English
[10:07] <ddyyllaann> .
[10:07] <ddyyllaann> I eat everything I revien time, good appetite!
[10:40] <leszek> hi
[10:40] <silverarrow> hi
[10:41] <silverarrow> is it possible to delete downloaded updates in update manager?
[10:41] <leszek> silverarrow: yes with "sudo apt-get clean" entered in lxterminal
[10:42] <leszek> it will delete every package in apts cache
[10:42] <silverarrow> I think I messed up my updater
[10:42] <leszek> how ?
[10:42] <silverarrow> left in the quantal cd and things happened
[10:42] <silverarrow> when upadate manager launched its` self I think
[10:44] <silverarrow> I will try update manager once more
[10:44] <leszek> is there an error message or something that could be helpful for identifying the problem ?
[10:44] <silverarrow> I get the message; cannot install updates, please insert update CD, something like that,
[10:45] <silverarrow> and a long list of updates show as "downloaded"
[10:47] <silverarrow> I still get asked about quantal quetzal
[10:47] <silverarrow> weird
[10:48] <silverarrow> update for 1.4.18-1ubuntu1.1
[10:48] <silverarrow> leszek, are you in lubuntu now?
[10:50] <silverarrow> I am in precise 12.04 by the way
[10:51] <silverarrow> it is a security update
[10:52] <silverarrow> hey, anyone here?
[10:52] <silverarrow> back later
[10:54] <ddyyllaann> I spend a Lubuntu 12.10 a week ago but I wonder if I did!
[14:40] <bizhanMona> Hi I have installed Lubuntu desktop, 12.04 on my machine. How can I boot to commandline terminal only (No window manager)? Thx
[14:55] <bioterror> bizhanMona, add text to the grub after ro quiet
[14:56] <bioterror> bizhanMona, http://askubuntu.com/questions/148717/how-do-i-boot-into-the-console-and-then-launch-the-ubuntu-desktop-from-it
[16:48] <silverarrow> hi
[16:48] <silverarrow> anyone here?
[16:48] <silverarrow> is update going fine at the moment?
[16:48] <silverarrow> I have a mess, and I`m not sure what has caused it
[16:50] <bioterror> !details | silverarrow
[16:55] <silverarrow> I`m getting 1.4.18.1-ubuntu1.1 updates, and they will not install
[16:56] <silverarrow> I am asked; CD/DVD 'Lubuntu 12.10 _Quantal Quetzal_ - Alpha powerpc (20120919)' is required
[16:57] <silverarrow> which is a bit weird, I have not launched a distro release or anything like that
[16:57] <bioterror> fix your sources
[16:57] <bioterror> use synaptic for example
[16:57] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[16:58] <bioterror> you have cd/dvd enabled
[16:58] <silverarrow> you are correct, there was a tagg of for quantal DVD
[16:58] <silverarrow> which I have not set my self
[16:59] <bioterror> I'm always correct ;)
[16:59] <silverarrow> but I have tried to boot the live Ubuntu dvd for testing purposes
[16:59] <silverarrow> quantal I mean
[17:01] <silverarrow> and update works !!
[17:02] <silverarrow> thanks
[17:02] <silverarrow> and for restart
[17:02] <silverarrow> brb
[19:11] <yesman> Buonara ragazzi ho bisogno di un consiglio riguardo lubuntu
[19:11] <yesman> c'è qualcuno online?
[23:51] <sandowneguy> I'm running 10.04, can I upgrade to 12.04 like Ubuntu?