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| elfy | hi coffeecat | 20:36 |
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| Iowan | We seem to be arriving... | 20:38 |
| elfy | yep | 20:38 |
| cariboo907 | I'm here | 20:39 |
| Iowan | old coffee>out, fresh coffee<in | 20:40 |
| cariboo907 | I just made a fresh pot ) | 20:40 |
| cariboo907 | :) | 20:41 |
| elfy | pot of tea ... | 20:42 |
| jbicha | people have meeting on Saturdays? | 20:42 |
| noskcaj | what for? | 20:42 |
| elfy | jbicha: they do if it's the only time they can get enough together at the same time ;) | 20:43 |
| lifeless | saturday? | 20:44 |
| jbicha | what's the meeting? | 20:44 |
| elfy | forum council | 20:44 |
| cariboo907 | Forum Council | 20:44 |
| cariboo907 | elfy, beat to it again :) | 20:44 |
| cariboo907 | beat me :) | 20:44 |
| bkerensa | =o | 20:45 |
| bkerensa | Forummmmmmmmmmmmms | 20:45 |
| elfy | hi bkerensa | 20:47 |
| bkerensa | hello | 20:48 |
| elfy | how's things | 20:49 |
| Iowan | Boss is here... | 20:51 |
| elfy | hi s-fox | 20:51 |
| s-fox | foxy is here | 20:51 |
| Iowan | her, too... ;) | 20:51 |
| s-fox | 1 minute to go | 20:59 |
| s-fox | ping elfy Iowan cariboo907 coffeecat | 20:59 |
| Iowan | o/ | 20:59 |
| elfy | o/ | 20:59 |
| coffeecat | o/ | 20:59 |
| cariboo907 | o/ | 21:00 |
| s-fox | splendid | 21:00 |
| s-fox | then let us begin | 21:00 |
| s-fox | #startmeeting | 21:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Sat Sep 22 21:00:15 2012 UTC. The chair is s-fox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 21:00 |
| meetingology | Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired | 21:00 |
| s-fox | #voters elfy coffeecat Iowan cariboo907 s-fox | 21:00 |
| meetingology | Current voters: Iowan cariboo907 coffeecat elfy s-fox | 21:00 |
| Iowan | New command? | 21:00 |
| s-fox | #topic ubuntuforums fc meeting | 21:00 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ubuntuforums fc meeting | ||
| * Iowan likes | 21:01 | |
| s-fox | #idea Wubi forums vs. Prefix ? | 21:01 |
| s-fox | odd | 21:01 |
| s-fox | #idea wubi prefix vs forums | 21:01 |
| s-fox | okay, that is weird | 21:02 |
| s-fox | lol | 21:02 |
| s-fox | anyone know why that isn't working ? | 21:02 |
| Iowan | topic? | 21:02 |
| elfy | no idea | 21:02 |
| s-fox | #subtopic wubi prefix vs forums ? | 21:03 |
| cariboo907 | how about sub-topic? | 21:03 |
| s-fox | hmm | 21:03 |
| s-fox | #meetingtopic | 21:03 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ubuntuforums fc meeting | ||
| s-fox | #subtopic test | 21:04 |
| elfy | do you have to be chair to run it? | 21:04 |
| Iowan | chair? (guessing wildly) | 21:04 |
| s-fox | i am the chair | 21:04 |
| s-fox | <meetingology> Meeting started Sat Sep 22 21:00:15 2012 UTC. The chair is s-fox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 21:04 |
| s-fox | #topic wubi prefix vs subforum | 21:04 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: wubi prefix vs subforum | ||
| s-fox | ahah, okay go with it ;) | 21:04 |
| Iowan | THERE! | 21:04 |
| elfy | :) | 21:04 |
| cariboo907 | yaaay | 21:04 |
| Iowan | Are we rusty??? | 21:05 |
| s-fox | basically bodhi was getting at having a subforum for wubi, rather than a prefix | 21:05 |
| cariboo907 | I say prefix only | 21:05 |
| elfy | was brought up by rubi I believe | 21:05 |
| elfy | I see no need for a new sub forum | 21:05 |
| s-fox | i know we discussed it earlier so can we skip to the vote? | 21:05 |
| coffeecat | Rubi was keen - I don't think many others were. | 21:05 |
| s-fox | i am neutral at best. more inclined to leave things as they are are, with just the prefix | 21:06 |
| Iowan | is it worth tabling? | 21:06 |
| s-fox | everyone okay with going to a vote ? | 21:06 |
| Iowan | vote... | 21:06 |
| coffeecat | Yes | 21:06 |
| elfy | yes | 21:07 |
| cariboo907 | yes | 21:07 |
| s-fox | #vote create wubi subforum | 21:07 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: create wubi subforum | 21:07 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 21:07 |
| s-fox | -1 | 21:07 |
| meetingology | -1 received from s-fox | 21:07 |
| coffeecat | -1 | 21:07 |
| meetingology | -1 received from coffeecat | 21:07 |
| cariboo907 | -1 | 21:07 |
| meetingology | -1 received from cariboo907 | 21:07 |
| elfy | -1 | 21:07 |
| meetingology | -1 received from elfy | 21:07 |
| Iowan | -1 for now. | 21:07 |
| meetingology | -1 for now. received from Iowan | 21:07 |
| s-fox | #endvote | 21:07 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: create wubi subforum | 21:07 |
| meetingology | Votes for:0 Votes against:5 Abstentions:0 | 21:07 |
| meetingology | Motion denied | 21:07 |
| s-fox | #vote keep the prefix | 21:07 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: keep the prefix | 21:07 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 21:07 |
| s-fox | +1 | 21:07 |
| meetingology | +1 received from s-fox | 21:07 |
| elfy | +1 | 21:07 |
| meetingology | +1 received from elfy | 21:07 |
| coffeecat | +1 | 21:08 |
| meetingology | +1 received from coffeecat | 21:08 |
| Iowan | +1 | 21:08 |
| meetingology | +1 received from Iowan | 21:08 |
| cariboo907 | +1 | 21:08 |
| meetingology | +1 received from cariboo907 | 21:08 |
| s-fox | #endvote | 21:08 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: keep the prefix | 21:08 |
| meetingology | Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 21:08 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 21:08 |
| s-fox | #agreed Leave things as they are for wubi | 21:08 |
| s-fox | hmmm, le sigh | 21:08 |
| s-fox | #agree leave things as they are for wubi | 21:08 |
| s-fox | fine, be that way ;) | 21:09 |
| Iowan | (more research...) | 21:09 |
| s-fox | coffeecat, has an item about Tutorials and Tips Forum | 21:09 |
| s-fox | #topic Tutorials and Tips Forum | 21:09 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Tutorials and Tips Forum | ||
| cariboo907 | bug time? | 21:09 |
| s-fox | it is listed as a valid command cariboo907 , as is subtopic to be fair | 21:09 |
| s-fox | coffeecat, you have the floor :) | 21:10 |
| cariboo907 | I know, I've got the page up too | 21:10 |
| coffeecat | Elfy really needs to take the lead, but I was wondering if it was time to rename the T&T forum, new sticky, etc. | 21:10 |
| s-fox | what would you want to rename it to coffeecat ? | 21:11 |
| cariboo907 | Something like wiki page discussion? | 21:11 |
| Iowan | I'm neutral/stupid on this one - educate me | 21:11 |
| s-fox | i am fairly neutral, but can see a point to it | 21:11 |
| coffeecat | Something like Wiki Tutorials discussion forum? | 21:11 |
| elfy | given that we want to stop posting in there and move to wiki - I'd prefer to see the tutes forums closed to new posts and a new one created for discussions - people don't read the stickies and still send things to the moderation queue | 21:11 |
| s-fox | obvious question:why should it be renamed ? | 21:11 |
| coffeecat | It's no longer for tutorials | 21:12 |
| coffeecat | Only discussions about wiki tutes | 21:12 |
| elfy | excatly | 21:12 |
| coffeecat | I'm +1 for Elfy's suggestion for new forum + close old one. | 21:12 |
| cariboo907 | +1 to elfy 's suggestion too | 21:13 |
| s-fox | HOWTO discussions ? | 21:13 |
| elfy | that's them both tutes'n'tips and outdated | 21:13 |
| elfy | Wiki tutorial discussions | 21:13 |
| Iowan | I'm inclined to agree that new forum=new name to make change obvious. | 21:13 |
| cariboo907 | I never really like Tips & Tutes, as most of them were hoto's anyway | 21:14 |
| s-fox | are we renaming or creating a new forum ? | 21:14 |
| elfy | create a new one - close the old ones | 21:14 |
| cariboo907 | I's say a new sub-forum | 21:14 |
| Iowan | ^ | 21:14 |
| coffeecat | agreed | 21:14 |
| elfy | and make the old ones sub to that one I assume | 21:15 |
| s-fox | alright, now i know what the notion is (i didn't fully understand it) so will start a vote | 21:15 |
| s-fox | #vote close tut's and tips , create new forum | 21:15 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: close tut's and tips , create new forum | 21:15 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 21:15 |
| Iowan | will it see more use than the dev subforum? | 21:15 |
| cariboo907 | +1 | 21:15 |
| meetingology | +1 received from cariboo907 | 21:15 |
| coffeecat | +1 | 21:15 |
| meetingology | +1 received from coffeecat | 21:15 |
| Iowan | +1 | 21:15 |
| elfy | +1 | 21:15 |
| meetingology | +1 received from elfy | 21:15 |
| meetingology | +1 received from Iowan | 21:15 |
| s-fox | +0 | 21:15 |
| meetingology | +0 received from s-fox | 21:15 |
| s-fox | #endvote | 21:15 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: close tut's and tips , create new forum | 21:15 |
| meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 | 21:15 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 21:15 |
| s-fox | should we archive old forum ? | 21:16 |
| cariboo907 | +1 | 21:16 |
| elfy | yea | 21:16 |
| s-fox | #vote archive tut's and tips | 21:16 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: archive tut's and tips | 21:16 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 21:16 |
| cariboo907 | +1 | 21:16 |
| meetingology | +1 received from cariboo907 | 21:16 |
| s-fox | +1 | 21:16 |
| meetingology | +1 received from s-fox | 21:16 |
| elfy | +1 | 21:16 |
| meetingology | +1 received from elfy | 21:16 |
| Iowan | That'd block new entries as well as closing | 21:16 |
| coffeecat | 0 | 21:16 |
| meetingology | 0 received from coffeecat | 21:16 |
| Iowan | +1 | 21:16 |
| meetingology | +1 received from Iowan | 21:16 |
| s-fox | #endvote | 21:16 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: archive tut's and tips | 21:16 |
| meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 | 21:16 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 21:16 |
| coffeecat | o/ whoa! | 21:17 |
| s-fox | what do we do about the howto's that have been converted? do we move the first post to its own thread OR create a new thread anyway ? | 21:17 |
| s-fox | coffeecat, | 21:17 |
| s-fox | ? | 21:17 |
| coffeecat | The reason I voted 0 for archiving is that if we agree a home layout change later, the archive will be made mnore difficult to find. | 21:17 |
| coffeecat | May be made... | 21:18 |
| cariboo907 | I'd suggest a new thread | 21:18 |
| elfy | mmm | 21:18 |
| Iowan | coffeecat, doesn't that depend on new layout? | 21:18 |
| elfy | so not archive it - but close to new posts | 21:18 |
| s-fox | close the forum ? | 21:18 |
| coffeecat | agree with elfy. Iowan the idea for layout change came from making archive more obscure, iirc. | 21:19 |
| elfy | coffeecat: yea - was my thought re archives | 21:19 |
| cariboo907 | I don't really see a problem with that ,as most of the tips & tutes are outdated any how | 21:19 |
| s-fox | alright, vote time (again) ;) | 21:19 |
| Iowan | Wait! | 21:19 |
| coffeecat | Also - if/when we close the T&T forum, we need to move the new wiki discussion threads into new forum. | 21:19 |
| s-fox | okay | 21:19 |
| s-fox | :) | 21:19 |
| elfy | I'll do the move of the threads | 21:20 |
| Iowan | Do we need to un-vote the archive vote? | 21:20 |
| Iowan | Who has Roberts Rules of Order? | 21:20 |
| elfy | not me - I'd assume it was a made up name | 21:21 |
| cariboo907 | IT looks like we still archive the sub-forum, just make it harder to find | 21:21 |
| s-fox | okay, can i now call a vote ? ;) | 21:21 |
| Iowan | sure | 21:21 |
| s-fox | alright.... this is going to be a 2 parter, but bear with me.... | 21:21 |
| s-fox | #vote close tut's and tips NOT archive | 21:22 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: close tut's and tips NOT archive | 21:22 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 21:22 |
| cariboo907 | -1 | 21:22 |
| meetingology | -1 received from cariboo907 | 21:22 |
| Iowan | +0 - we already voted to archive | 21:22 |
| elfy | +1 | 21:22 |
| meetingology | +0 - we already voted to archive received from Iowan | 21:22 |
| meetingology | +1 received from elfy | 21:22 |
| coffeecat | +1 | 21:22 |
| meetingology | +1 received from coffeecat | 21:22 |
| s-fox | +0 | 21:22 |
| meetingology | +0 received from s-fox | 21:22 |
| s-fox | #endvote | 21:22 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: close tut's and tips NOT archive | 21:22 |
| meetingology | Votes for:2 Votes against:1 Abstentions:2 | 21:22 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 21:22 |
| s-fox | okay, so that went ahead.... now the second part | 21:23 |
| s-fox | #vote move first post of migrated tut's and tips to new forum ? | 21:23 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: move first post of migrated tut's and tips to new forum ? | 21:23 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 21:23 |
| s-fox | +1 | 21:23 |
| meetingology | +1 received from s-fox | 21:23 |
| cariboo907 | -1 | 21:23 |
| meetingology | -1 received from cariboo907 | 21:23 |
| Iowan | +0 | 21:24 |
| meetingology | +0 received from Iowan | 21:24 |
| coffeecat | I don't understsand the vote topic | 21:24 |
| elfy | the old threads get closed and new discussion thread is opened at present | 21:24 |
| s-fox | coffeecat, do we move the first post of the old migrated tuts to the new forum OR do we create a new post ? | 21:24 |
| s-fox | 2 seconds...sorry...flea bag is playing up | 21:25 |
| elfy | -1 | 21:25 |
| meetingology | -1 received from elfy | 21:25 |
| coffeecat | +0 /me completely baffled | 21:26 |
| meetingology | +0 /me completely baffled received from coffeecat | 21:26 |
| * Iowan too | 21:26 | |
| elfy | the way it works is - old thread converted, old thread closed, new discussion thread created - that will be moved to new forum - or that's my understanding | 21:27 |
| s-fox | back | 21:27 |
| s-fox | i think this needs a little more discussion | 21:28 |
| coffeecat | THat's my understanding. Discussion threads only moved to new forum. | 21:28 |
| elfy | yea | 21:28 |
| cariboo907 | +1 | 21:28 |
| meetingology | +1 received from cariboo907 | 21:28 |
| cariboo907 | oops I forgot we were still in a vote | 21:28 |
| s-fox | i'll end the vote, disregard the result | 21:28 |
| coffeecat | :) | 21:28 |
| s-fox | #endvote | 21:28 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: move first post of migrated tut's and tips to new forum ? | 21:28 |
| meetingology | Votes for:2 Votes against:1 Abstentions:2 | 21:28 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 21:28 |
| s-fox | ^ IGNORE | 21:29 |
| s-fox | Right, so we want are talking about a brand new thread ? | 21:29 |
| elfy | what we need to vote on is - leave old tutorial threads and move newer discussion threads to new forum | 21:29 |
| cariboo907 | Wouldn't we leave the discussion part up to the wiki page creator? | 21:29 |
| elfy | which is all we'd need to move | 21:30 |
| elfy | cariboo907: mostly that is the wiki team people | 21:30 |
| elfy | but - previously it could only really be staff as the 'old' thread needed to be closed at the same time | 21:31 |
| cariboo907 | Isn't the idea though to get any one that creates a new howto, to create a wiki page? | 21:31 |
| elfy | yes | 21:31 |
| coffeecat | And a new forum will really force the issue as far as I can see. | 21:31 |
| elfy | coffeecat: yes | 21:31 |
| cariboo907 | what's to stop someone from creating a howto in the discussion sub-forum? | 21:32 |
| elfy | and will mean that there are no threads that will need closing - as the old forums will be closed anyway - so at that point wiki creator can start the wiki discussion | 21:32 |
| elfy | cariboo907: we voted to close those but not archive them | 21:32 |
| s-fox | i wonder if we can moderate posts to an entire subforum.... | 21:32 |
| s-fox | if it looks like a howto we could act and advise | 21:33 |
| coffeecat | If someone starts a howto in the new forum, it'll be closed or moved to an ordinary forum, I guess. | 21:33 |
| cariboo907 | What I asked is what if someone decides to create a new howto in the discussion sub-forum, what's to stop them? | 21:33 |
| coffeecat | Nothing, but we move it out. | 21:33 |
| Iowan | us? | 21:33 |
| cariboo907 | OK thanks coffeecat | 21:33 |
| coffeecat | WE could ensure the new forum is moderated as the T&T is/was. | 21:33 |
| * s-fox nods | 21:34 | |
| elfy | yep | 21:34 |
| cariboo907 | If we are going to do that why bother with a new sub-forum? | 21:34 |
| elfy | to make a clean break | 21:34 |
| coffeecat | It's cleaner that way - new strategy - new forum/ | 21:35 |
| elfy | otherwise nothing will change imo | 21:35 |
| bkerensa | :) | 21:35 |
| coffeecat | agreed with elfy - no one reads the stickies. | 21:35 |
| cariboo907 | so we'll still end up with queued threads awaitng moderation? | 21:35 |
| elfy | well I would assume that people going to the new forum and seeing it empty will thinktwice | 21:36 |
| s-fox | i'm for a clean break | 21:36 |
| coffeecat | I think the modding will be easier - I was never comfortable with judging the technical content of new tutes. | 21:37 |
| Iowan | ditto | 21:37 |
| s-fox | i think we should discuss this in scc and move on for now | 21:37 |
| elfy | ok | 21:37 |
| cariboo907 | +1 | 21:38 |
| coffeecat | +1 | 21:38 |
| s-fox | you know, we seem to have stalled a little | 21:38 |
| Iowan | move on | 21:38 |
| elfy | come back to it next month | 21:38 |
| s-fox | alright, we'll move on | 21:38 |
| s-fox | but we agree to discuss this more later | 21:38 |
| s-fox | #topic Human verification questions - follow up to changes | 21:38 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Human verification questions - follow up to changes | ||
| s-fox | coffeecat, you have the floor :) | 21:39 |
| Iowan | Well, the changes seem to be working | 21:39 |
| coffeecat | Not much to say really. There was a drmatic drop in bot reigsatrtions. | 21:39 |
| coffeecat | We changed 2-3 questions the other day. | 21:40 |
| Iowan | Are bots catching on to new questions? | 21:40 |
| s-fox | we contacted canonical is about the bug (i would not like to say what that bug is in public) | 21:40 |
| Iowan | I know which one... | 21:40 |
| coffeecat | The ones I've looked at don't seem to be bots. None of the i.a.m.a.d.i.r.t.s.p.a.m.m.e.r@whatever.com emails | 21:41 |
| s-fox | okay, good :) | 21:41 |
| cariboo907 | I think we are well aware of the bug you refer to s | 21:41 |
| cariboo907 | s-fox, | 21:41 |
| s-fox | alright, nothing to vote on - i'd like to move on with the meeting | 21:41 |
| s-fox | anyone object ? | 21:42 |
| Iowan | move on... | 21:42 |
| cariboo907 | no lets move on | 21:42 |
| elfy | nope - that's fine with me | 21:42 |
| coffeecat | fine by me | 21:42 |
| s-fox | okay :) | 21:42 |
| s-fox | #topic Forum Upgrade | 21:42 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Forum Upgrade | ||
| Iowan | Anything new since the ML message? | 21:42 |
| s-fox | i could say so much about this and how it has annoyed me somewhat, but i saw the mail from lyz the other day | 21:42 |
| cariboo907 | Is there much to discuss until SSO is done? | 21:43 |
| s-fox | and i think elfy sent something recently also | 21:43 |
| elfy | waiting on Kyle Baker apparently | 21:43 |
| * s-fox nods | 21:43 | |
| elfy | I updated the ticket for an update from him | 21:43 |
| s-fox | anything new to report that we don't already know ? | 21:43 |
| elfy | nope | 21:43 |
| s-fox | maybe we should let the community know the status ? | 21:43 |
| elfy | stalled | 21:44 |
| s-fox | agreed, stalled | 21:44 |
| s-fox | again | 21:44 |
| Iowan | That's news? | 21:44 |
| cariboo907 | still | 21:44 |
| bkerensa | My understanding is the SSO is nearly done | 21:44 |
| bkerensa | just a heads up ^ | 21:44 |
| bkerensa | I have been pushing the force that be to move it along | 21:44 |
| s-fox | bkerensa, source? :) | 21:44 |
| s-fox | awesome :D | 21:44 |
| bkerensa | s-fox: jcastro | 21:44 |
| bkerensa | he said he predicts it being done next week | 21:44 |
| elfy | my understanding is that communication on this issue has been appalling | 21:44 |
| bkerensa | but maybe he was just being optimistic | 21:44 |
| bkerensa | idk | 21:45 |
| elfy | we have had optimism for years bkerensa ;) | 21:45 |
| s-fox | i think we should get in touch with castro | 21:45 |
| s-fox | again | 21:45 |
| bkerensa | elfy: I understand your frustration :) I want to see forums upgraded asap | 21:46 |
| s-fox | #vote someone get in touch with castro for an update | 21:46 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: someone get in touch with castro for an update | 21:46 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 21:46 |
| elfy | +1 | 21:46 |
| meetingology | +1 received from elfy | 21:46 |
| s-fox | +1 | 21:46 |
| meetingology | +1 received from s-fox | 21:46 |
| cariboo907 | +1 | 21:46 |
| meetingology | +1 received from cariboo907 | 21:46 |
| coffeecat | +1 | 21:46 |
| meetingology | +1 received from coffeecat | 21:46 |
| Iowan | +1 | 21:46 |
| meetingology | +1 received from Iowan | 21:46 |
| s-fox | #endvote | 21:46 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: someone get in touch with castro for an update | 21:46 |
| meetingology | Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 21:46 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 21:46 |
| s-fox | woot :) | 21:46 |
| s-fox | #topic Rethink forum home page layout | 21:47 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Rethink forum home page layout | ||
| bkerensa | :D | 21:47 |
| Iowan | beyond me... | 21:47 |
| s-fox | lots of discussion on this already, would like to just skip to the vote since nearly everyone is for it | 21:47 |
| s-fox | and this is coffeecat 's item | 21:47 |
| s-fox | ;) | 21:47 |
| cariboo907 | we need to do something | 21:47 |
| coffeecat | Everyone seen the suggested way forward here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2060237 ? | 21:48 |
| cariboo907 | to many emails to the admin on how to create a thread :) | 21:48 |
| cariboo907 | +1 | 21:48 |
| elfy | yep | 21:49 |
| Iowan | I'd like to see the proposed layout first. | 21:50 |
| Iowan | Different isn't necessarily better | 21:50 |
| coffeecat | That's in the proposal/ | 21:50 |
| s-fox | which post, the thread has over 70 replies ;) | 21:52 |
| s-fox | oh wait, that is the short one :D | 21:52 |
| Iowan | I have no problem *considering* a new layout... | 21:53 |
| cariboo907 | You posted in it s-fox :) | 21:53 |
| s-fox | i know cariboo907 :) | 21:53 |
| Iowan | vote? | 21:54 |
| s-fox | we are going to vote on considering a new layout? | 21:54 |
| cariboo907 | when will it be done? :-D I'm inpatient | 21:54 |
| coffeecat | I thought we "considered" in early August. | 21:54 |
| elfy | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12149766&postcount=19 | 21:54 |
| coffeecat | If we keep on "considering" this will take as long as the forum upgrade. | 21:55 |
| elfy | to post 22 I think is the bones of it | 21:55 |
| s-fox | thanks elfy :) | 21:55 |
| cariboo907 | +1 to what coffeecat said :) | 21:55 |
| s-fox | alright, going to vote. | 21:56 |
| elfy | +1 | 21:56 |
| elfy | what on? | 21:56 |
| coffeecat | lol | 21:56 |
| s-fox | on going with the outline | 21:56 |
| s-fox | anyone mind going to the vote ? | 21:57 |
| cariboo907 | should we get TV involved in this? | 21:57 |
| elfy | we can follow up with the nitty gritty details in SCC | 21:57 |
| cariboo907 | or I should say ask TV? | 21:57 |
| cariboo907 | Let's vote | 21:58 |
| coffeecat | The adjustments in AdmonCP are quite straightforward. It doesn't need TV I think. | 21:58 |
| coffeecat | AdminCP too! :) | 21:58 |
| s-fox | straightforward changes | 21:58 |
| elfy | :) | 21:58 |
| s-fox | calling a vote, time is getting on... | 21:58 |
| s-fox | #vote Agree in principle to updating forum homepage layout, exact changes to be outlined clearly | 21:59 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: Agree in principle to updating forum homepage layout, exact changes to be outlined clearly | 21:59 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 21:59 |
| Iowan | +0 | 21:59 |
| meetingology | +0 received from Iowan | 21:59 |
| cariboo907 | +1 | 21:59 |
| meetingology | +1 received from cariboo907 | 21:59 |
| elfy | +1 | 21:59 |
| coffeecat | +1 | 21:59 |
| meetingology | +1 received from elfy | 21:59 |
| meetingology | +1 received from coffeecat | 21:59 |
| s-fox | +1 | 21:59 |
| meetingology | +1 received from s-fox | 21:59 |
| s-fox | #endvote | 21:59 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: Agree in principle to updating forum homepage layout, exact changes to be outlined clearly | 21:59 |
| meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 | 21:59 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 21:59 |
| s-fox | alright, just division of duties now | 21:59 |
| s-fox | who wants which tasks? | 22:00 |
| Iowan | I'll keep the announcement - unless someone REALLY wants it | 22:00 |
| bkerensa | :) | 22:00 |
| s-fox | pass | 22:00 |
| s-fox | lol | 22:00 |
| * bkerensa haz no tasks | 22:00 | |
| elfy | I can take first responder in RC | 22:00 |
| cariboo907 | I'll answer the admin emails | 22:01 |
| s-fox | #action Iowan to carry on with announcement | 22:01 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Iowan to carry on with announcement | 22:01 |
| s-fox | #action Elfy first contact in RC | 22:01 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Elfy first contact in RC | 22:01 |
| coffeecat | I'm happy with welcome pm. I haven't had aany spam pm's in a while and I miss them! :) | 22:01 |
| s-fox | #action cariboo907 to do the emails | 22:01 |
| meetingology | ACTION: cariboo907 to do the emails | 22:01 |
| s-fox | #action coffeecat to do the welcome pm | 22:01 |
| meetingology | ACTION: coffeecat to do the welcome pm | 22:01 |
| s-fox | #action s-fox to sit pretty as ever :) | 22:01 |
| meetingology | ACTION: s-fox to sit pretty as ever :) | 22:01 |
| Iowan | is that the same as the announcement? | 22:02 |
| * elfy doesn't know what the tasks are anyway | 22:02 | |
| TheLordOfTime | lol s-fox | 22:02 |
| Iowan | (the welcome pm) | 22:02 |
| elfy | but doesn't want the monthly report ... | 22:02 |
| s-fox | #action s-fox to do the report | 22:02 |
| meetingology | ACTION: s-fox to do the report | 22:02 |
| Iowan | What else can I help mess up? | 22:02 |
| cariboo907 | s-fox, took the easy one again :) | 22:02 |
| elfy | Iowan: you can help move the forums about :) | 22:02 |
| Iowan | Careful what you ask... | 22:03 |
| elfy | :) | 22:03 |
| Iowan | I might move tnem to cheesecake | 22:03 |
| elfy | lol | 22:03 |
| s-fox | alright, i think that is everything, anyone got anything to bring up ? | 22:03 |
| bkerensa | ;p | 22:03 |
| bkerensa | I like llamas | 22:03 |
| coffeecat | o/ 1 brief question | 22:04 |
| elfy | so - we going to get next months meeting sorted out in the next week ... | 22:04 |
| s-fox | coffeecat, go :) | 22:04 |
| s-fox | i have one item also that can wait until the end | 22:04 |
| coffeecat | the namless "bug". No one's responded to the RC ticket. It'lltake 5 minutes for someone to comment out a couple of lines in a php file.... | 22:04 |
| coffeecat | ... Is there someone we can approach directly? | 22:05 |
| TheLordOfTime | why not just give them a diff so they apply it? just saying :P | 22:05 |
| TheLordOfTime | whoops sorry wrong channel | 22:05 |
| * TheLordOfTime hates laptops | 22:05 | |
| s-fox | coffeecat, we could see who is around on irc i guess | 22:05 |
| s-fox | or even bring it up with castro since he is our appointed contact person | 22:06 |
| Iowan | ^^ | 22:06 |
| coffeecat | +1 to castro. It's such a tiny job held up by red tape. | 22:06 |
| * elfy thinks that's a good idea - one e-mail 2 important issues | 22:06 | |
| cariboo907 | +1 tothe email | 22:07 |
| s-fox | alright | 22:07 |
| s-fox | can we move on to my item ? | 22:07 |
| elfy | yep | 22:07 |
| coffeecat | yep | 22:07 |
| Iowan | please | 22:07 |
| cariboo907 | yupe | 22:07 |
| === dniMretsaM is now known as MM_is_away | ||
| s-fox | now me and bodhi both shared the chair position. obviously things have changed. i have taken the role completely. i don't think anyone especially minds this, but i think it would be wise to have a 'backup, just incase real life happens on me' | 22:08 |
| bkerensa | +1 | 22:09 |
| bkerensa | or burnout | 22:09 |
| elfy | ok | 22:09 |
| s-fox | so, i suppose i what i am getting at is, does anyone object, and who could do that ? | 22:09 |
| Iowan | Who is qualified to backup? | 22:09 |
| s-fox | all of you | 22:10 |
| Iowan | I dunno the bot format... | 22:10 |
| s-fox | the question perhaps should be, who wants to | 22:10 |
| cariboo907 | I nominate elfy :) | 22:10 |
| s-fox | Iowan, the bot is easy, it can be taught | 22:10 |
| elfy | I'll do it if no-one else wants it | 22:10 |
| bkerensa | +1 for elfy as backup | 22:10 |
| coffeecat | Presumably a backup/co-chair would be given super-admin permissionfor the forum? | 22:10 |
| elfy | cariboo907: thanks then - you could have waited | 22:10 |
| elfy | :) | 22:10 |
| s-fox | coffeecat, correct. as far as i am aware i am the only super admin on the forum | 22:11 |
| Iowan | I suspect we'd all be willing | 22:11 |
| s-fox | this is not a good thing | 22:11 |
| cariboo907 | But you did such a good job of arranging the meeting elfy | 22:11 |
| elfy | agreed s-fox | 22:11 |
| elfy | cariboo907: lol | 22:11 |
| Iowan | qualified... not so much | 22:11 |
| elfy | is there are reason why there shoudl only be two super admins? | 22:12 |
| bkerensa | too many fingers? | 22:12 |
| s-fox | yes, so coffeecat doesn't wipe everything by accident | 22:12 |
| s-fox | ;) | 22:12 |
| coffeecat | lol | 22:12 |
| elfy | :) | 22:12 |
| bkerensa | lawl | 22:12 |
| bkerensa | :D | 22:12 |
| Iowan | accident? | 22:12 |
| bkerensa | Do you guys do database backups at some sort of normal rate? | 22:12 |
| elfy | LOL | 22:13 |
| bkerensa | like daily snapshots? | 22:13 |
| s-fox | i would propose you all go and think about this and this discussion to be moved to the ml | 22:13 |
| elfy | ok - sounds good | 22:13 |
| Iowan | +1 | 22:13 |
| bkerensa | +` | 22:13 |
| cariboo907 | +1 | 22:13 |
| coffeecat | +1 | 22:13 |
| s-fox | alight, thanks everyone :) | 22:13 |
| elfy | cheers s-fox | 22:14 |
| s-fox | alight, english is funny | 22:14 |
| s-fox | alright | 22:14 |
| cariboo907 | thanls s-fox | 22:14 |
| cariboo907 | thanks | 22:14 |
| coffeecat | Thanks s-fox | 22:14 |
| bkerensa | thanks forum council! | 22:14 |
| bkerensa | :D | 22:14 |
| s-fox | thank you all for helping to re-establish the meetings | 22:14 |
| s-fox | anything else to add before ending meeting ? | 22:15 |
| bkerensa | Stay Calm and Use Forums! | 22:15 |
| elfy | who's mailing jcastro? | 22:15 |
| bkerensa | me | 22:15 |
| bkerensa | I will cc s-fox | 22:15 |
| Iowan | FC should | 22:16 |
| s-fox | i am back to the hospital tomorrow, so it is unlikely to me | 22:16 |
| s-fox | can someone find some time to do it later ? | 22:16 |
| elfy | I can do that tomorrow | 22:17 |
| s-fox | thanks elfy | 22:17 |
| s-fox | #action elfy to email castro | 22:17 |
| meetingology | ACTION: elfy to email castro | 22:17 |
| s-fox | okay, anything else ? | 22:17 |
| coffeecat | elfy, I'll give you the link for the "bug" if you can't lay your hands on it. | 22:17 |
| elfy | I have bookmarked coffeecat | 22:17 |
| coffeecat | Excellent! | 22:18 |
| Iowan | U D man! | 22:18 |
| Iowan | There are a few more items on duties list, but none urgent. | 22:19 |
| cariboo907 | Discuss on theML? | 22:19 |
| Iowan | +1 | 22:19 |
| Iowan | (time to end) | 22:19 |
| cariboo907 | my space bar doesn' t work very well today :) | 22:19 |
| elfy | so I'll cc cc as well then when I mail jc | 22:20 |
| s-fox | okay :) | 22:20 |
| s-fox | ending the meeting ;) | 22:20 |
| elfy | go for it | 22:20 |
| s-fox | #endmeeting | 22:20 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Sat Sep 22 22:20:28 2012 UTC. | 22:20 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-22-21.00.moin.txt | 22:20 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-22-21.00.html | 22:20 |
| cariboo907 | +1 | 22:20 |
| s-fox | hehe | 22:20 |
| Iowan | YEA! WE DID IT! | 22:20 |
| s-fox | thanks for coming everyone | 22:20 |
| elfy | I'll also tomorrow do a - next meeting time thing | 22:20 |
| elfy | once I've had a gallon or two of tea | 22:20 |
| * Iowan plans to check calendar | 22:21 | |
| * elfy plans to check kettle | 22:21 | |
| bkerensa | \o/ | 22:21 |
| Iowan | elfy, I was typing response for email to jcastro, but you beat me again... | 22:23 |
| elfy | we can swap if you like Iowan | 22:23 |
| elfy | I'll take the not doing it | 22:23 |
| elfy | :) | 22:24 |
| Iowan | ... but you already have the link bookmarked | 22:24 |
| elfy | lol | 22:24 |
| elfy | good night then :) | 22:29 |
| === MM_is_away is now known as dniMretsaM | ||
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