[05:09] <Kilos> morning geek types
[05:10] <Kilos> Symmetria, http://i.nl03.net/ltr4/?_m=0a.06zv.6sm4.nx08k6plhd.0&pg=prd&qf=lw
[06:32] <Trixar_za> bbl. And since I keep telling everybody this, here's a taught for the day. Did you know that "I" is an one letter recursive palindrome and "EVE" is a one word recursive palindrome? And that I'm making this stuff up while sleep deprived? :P
[06:32] <Kilos> lol
[06:33] <Kilos> wb Trix[a]r_za 
[07:27] <Kilos> http://www.gadmintools.org/
[07:27] <Kilos> what kinda admin permissions does one need to go see there
[07:47] <Squirm> morning
[07:48] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[08:09] <Squirm> I think I'm hanging a little
[08:09] <Squirm> how are you Kilos ?
[08:09] <Kilos> ok ty Squirm and you?
[08:09] <Squirm> not bad. just tired
[08:09] <Kilos> whew
[08:09] <Kilos> again
[08:10] <Kilos> still
[08:12] <Squirm> ^^
[08:29] <Squirm> so what are you doing this fine Saturday Kilos ?
[08:39] <Kilos> trying to get a second pc to use this same 3g connection Squirm 
[08:39] <Kilos> they wired
[08:40] <Kilos> been trying the adhock thing but it no easy
[08:41] <Squirm> connecting two pcs is the easy part. I could never ger sharing working
[08:42] <Kilos> haha i have googled me sick
[08:42] <Kilos> i will get it by hook or by crook
[08:42] <Kilos> even trying to set one up as a server
[08:42] <Kilos> using gadmin
[08:43] <Squirm> did you get the pcs connected?
[08:43] <Kilos> ya thats not too bad
[08:43] <Kilos> they ping each other
[08:44] <Squirm> ok
[08:45] <Squirm> idk
[08:45] <Squirm> I've tried with a bunch of iptables rules I've found
[08:45] <Squirm> but no luck
[08:45] <Kilos> lol i tried one as well just now
[08:45] <Kilos> looked easy but didnt work
[08:46] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/104264/mobile-broadband-sharing-over-adhoc-wireless
[08:50] <Squirm> yep
[08:50] <Kilos> hehe
[08:51] <Kilos> most of the info is about wireless though
[08:51] <Kilos> http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/
[08:52] <Kilos> grr
[08:58] <Kilos> Squirm, read this  http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-easily-share-your-wireless-connection-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[08:59] <Kilos> if it can work wireless one must be able to make it work 3g too
[09:00] <Squirm> 3g should give you that option then?
[09:17] <Kilos> in the mobile broadband there isnt an option to share
[09:17] <Kilos> grrr
[09:19] <Kilos> if i can just find where/how to connect wired and 3g i will do a back flip
[09:19] <Kilos> maybe will try add a network card on this pc too and not use the built in one
[09:21] <Squirm> I really don't know. I'ts stumped me before
[09:22] <Kilos> lol
[09:25] <Squirm> boredom
[09:30] <Kilos> you got nothing to do Squirm ?
[09:55] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[09:55] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[09:55] <psydroid> I am the unity disabler
[10:28] <Symmetria> dammit :( someone damaged my car :(
[10:28] <Symmetria> noticed this morning there are scratches and a nice dent in my front bumper 
[10:28]  * Symmetria thinks insurance is *NOT* going to be happy about that one
[10:52] <Kilos> ouch
[10:52] <Kilos> where were you last night
[10:54] <Symmetria> heh out at a pub :P and I wasnt drinking :p
[10:54] <Symmetria> so it wasnt me
[10:55] <Symmetria> lol, the only way to repair that issue though is a complete front bumper replacement, lol, insurance is gonna hate me :p
[10:56] <Kilos> hey you a networking man
[10:56] <Kilos> how do i share 2 wired pcs on one 3g connection
[10:57] <Kilos> dont sat google it
[10:57] <Kilos> been doing that for 3 days
[10:57] <Symmetria> heh under linux? 
[10:57] <Kilos> ya
[10:58] <Symmetria> honestly aint tried to share anything under linux or do NAT on it in *YEARS* so cant help ya there mate 
[10:58] <Symmetria> I use junos for that type of thing 
[10:58] <Kilos> whats junos
[10:59] <Kilos> old times were easier i think. one could solder some wires in the right places
[10:59] <Symmetria> juniper's operating system :) 
[10:59] <Kilos> oh no i dont wanna scrap buntu
[11:00] <Symmetria> hehe you couldnt scrap ubuntu, you'd need a dedicated machine :)
[11:00] <Symmetria> lol, I was just giving you the reason why I aint done it in linux in so long I cant remeber how to do it in linux :p
[11:00] <Kilos> as a server?
[11:00] <Symmetria> wasnt saying it was a very practical solution I use for most people
[11:00] <Symmetria> heh kilos no, as a router 
[11:00] <Kilos> you make a whole pc the router?
[11:00] <Symmetria> junos is meant for routers, and thats all its meant for :)
[11:00] <Kilos> ah
[11:01] <Symmetria> kilos actually I have 9 pcs as routers for lab purposes
[11:01] <Symmetria> and one of them is a vmware instance running 8 seperate routing instances 
[11:01] <Kilos> maybe i can find something to install here to make one a router
[11:01] <Symmetria> brb :)
[11:09] <Kerbero> Kilos: can't one do internet connection sharing with network manager?
[11:10] <Kilos> Kerbero, the mobile broadband section has no shring goodie
[11:10] <Kilos> sharing
[11:10] <Kerbero> :(
[11:10] <Kilos> ya
[11:10] <Kerbero> ok well
[11:11] <Kerbero> that's going to make it a little more tricky
[11:11] <Kerbero> but i'll summarize in a few steps what needs to be done
[11:11] <Kerbero> then you know what to google for
[11:11] <Kilos> from what i read one has to make an adhoc connection between wired and ppp0
[11:11] <Kerbero> 1. enable ipv4 forwarding/routing in sysctl.conf
[11:11] <Kilos> ok ty 
[11:12] <Kerbero> 2. install iptables, add a iptables rule to masquerade / NAT all outgoing stuff on the ppp0 interface
[11:12] <Kerbero> 3. run a dhcp server on eth0 or force ip's, gateway adress, etc
[11:12] <Kerbero> that's about it
[11:13] <Kilos> ok ty ill see what i can find
[15:25] <Kilos> yo superfly 
[15:25] <Kilos> hi kli 
[15:26] <Kilos> you look new here
[15:26] <kli> hi there
[15:26] <kli> yes iam
[15:26] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[15:27] <kli> thanks,uhm Iam a new ubuntu user and python programmer, so I kinda need help
[15:27] <Kilos> we got python experts here
[15:27] <Kilos> what help you need kli 
[15:28] <kli> ok great....
[15:28] <Kilos> you might have to wait a while. sats are quiet till later
[15:29] <kli> I was trying to install Django and everything seems to be installed well, but when I try to run the 'django-admin.py' it says the command is not found
[15:29] <Kilos> does it say you havent got permission
[15:29] <kli> oh ayt I don't mind waiting,I've been waiting and been frustrated for the past two days lol
[15:30] <kli> no,it doesn't mention the part about permission
[15:30] <Kilos> did you try running it with sudo?
[15:31] <Kilos> as root as they say
[15:32] <kli> you mean when I installed it? yes I ran it as sudo
[15:32] <Kilos> to run it now
[15:33] <Kilos> i dunno how you start it. all programming i can do is the microwave to cook food
[15:33] <Kilos> do you start it from the terminal?
[15:35] <kli> yes I run, sudo django-admin.py in the terminal and it says : django-admin.py: command not found
[15:35] <Kilos> oh my
[15:35] <Kerbero> don't you need to ./django-admin.py
[15:35] <Kerbero> or
[15:35] <Kerbero> python django-admin.py
[15:38] <kli> when I import django in python,I think it shows that its there coz I can even check the django version I have(1.4.1). when I just run the 'python django-admin.py' command,it returns this: python:can't open file 'django-admin.py':[Errno 2] No such file or directory
[15:42] <kli> or haven't I installed it properly?
[15:42] <Kilos> kli, you here with your browser?
[15:43] <Kilos> install xchat
[15:43] <Kilos> how did you install. do you have aptitude
[15:44] <kli> I'm using my phone in this chat now
[15:45] <Kilos> you have the pc there by you?
[15:45] <kli> I followed some instructions online to install it via Pip
[15:45] <kli> yes the pc is here
[15:45] <Kilos> try sudo apt-get install aptitude
[15:46] <Kilos> then sudo aptitude reinstall "package"
[15:48] <Kilos> or you can use the software centre. i installed synaptic because it shows the packages you have installed and whats available
[15:48] <Kilos> next have you run sudo apt-get update since installing
[15:48] <Kilos> or run update manager
[15:50] <kli> ok I will run it 
[15:51] <kli> do I need to remove django that I had already installed or I just follow these instructions?
[15:51] <Kilos> first run sudo apt-get update
[15:52] <Kilos> the sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:52] <Kilos> leave django for now
[15:52] <Kilos> aptitude should fix it
[15:54] <kli> oh ok...
[16:00] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[16:04] <Kilos> hey magespawn ?
[16:04] <Kilos> busy with fish
[16:06] <Kilos> whats happening kli 
[16:06] <superfly> -_- Django is horrible
[16:07] <Kilos> help him superfly 
[16:07] <superfly> Kilos: I steer clear of Django, I can't help him
[16:07] <Kilos> i mean help him to go the right way superfly 
[16:08] <Kilos> he is new to ubuntu and maybe puthon too
[16:08] <Kilos> python
[16:08] <Kilos> big snake
[16:17] <Cantide> hello everyone~
[16:17] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[16:17] <Cantide> ^^
[16:17] <Cantide> i tried studying... but alas
[16:17] <Kilos> what?
[16:17] <Cantide> still 2 more days of the weekend anyhow '-'
[16:18] <Kilos> lol
[16:18] <Cantide> what are you up to?
[16:18] <Kilos> resting head
[16:18] <Kilos> ip things give me headache
[16:20] <Cantide> aah
[16:20] <Cantide> why doesn't Ubuntu tell you your IP address?
[16:20] <Cantide> i have no idea where to look for mine
[16:21] <Kilos> im trying to get 2 wired pcs to use one 3g connection
[16:22] <Kilos> ip address shows in info on network manager
[16:22] <Cantide> hmm
[16:22] <Kerbero> terminal
[16:22] <Cantide> aha
[16:22] <Cantide> got it
[16:22] <Kerbero> type "ip addr"
[16:23] <Cantide> cool :)
[16:23] <Cantide> thanks, Kilos, Kerbero :)
[16:23] <Kilos> Kerbero, i cant install iptables
[16:23] <Kilos> havent got it
[16:23] <Kilos> artables or something
[16:23] <Kerbero> i normally install webmin
[16:24] <Kerbero> and let it sort out its dependecies on its own
[16:24] <Kilos> ah ok ill try that
[16:24] <Kerbero> http://webmin.com/
[16:24] <Kerbero> it is not in the repo's
[16:24] <Kilos> aw
[16:24] <Kerbero> but get the debian package from the website
[16:24] <Kilos> the pro fights me when i use stuff not in the repos
[16:25] <Kerbero> haha
[16:25] <Kerbero> it is better not to
[16:25] <Kilos> hehe
[16:25] <Kerbero> but some times it is the choice between the easy and difficult path
[16:26] <Kerbero> Kilos: did you find a tutorial online explaining the steps i gave you in more detail?
[16:26] <Kilos> what tutorial
[16:27] <Kerbero> any
[16:27] <Kilos> i tried to go to edit that sys file
[16:28] <Kilos> but dont have same one
[16:28] <Kilos> mine is conf.d
[16:28] <Kilos> then no iptables
[16:29] <Kilos> sysctl.conf.d
[16:29] <Kilos> and im scared to fiddle with stuff i dont know or understand or the pro fights me
[16:30] <Kerbero> ye
[16:30] <Kilos> inetpro, comment on http://webmin.com/ please
[16:30] <Kerbero> thats why i said:
[16:30] <Kerbero> [13:11] <Kerbero> that's going to make it a little more tricky
[16:31] <Kilos> lol
[16:38] <Kilos> kli, what happened?
[16:38] <superfly> webmin is a security risk
[16:38] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[16:39] <superfly> there's a reason it was removed from the repos
[17:09] <Symmetria> lol I love some of the things I see in peoples .bash_history files on machines I run
[17:09] <Symmetria> lol, especially when you see a long list of attempts to get rid of the history file that have failed :p
[17:15] <Symmetria> found in some dudes history file:
[17:15] <Symmetria> rm ~/.bash_history
[17:15] <Symmetria> ls -l ~/.bash_history
[17:15] <Symmetria> echo . > ~/.bash_history
[17:15] <Symmetria> cat ~/.bash_history
[17:15] <Symmetria> rm -rf ~/.bash_history
[17:15] <Symmetria> lol
[17:16] <Symmetria> then he logged out and hasnt logged in since
[17:38] <magespawn> Howdy all
[17:39] <Kilos> hey again magespawn 
[17:39] <magespawn> sorry i thought i had marked myself as away
[17:39] <Kilos> lol np
[17:40] <Symmetria> heh I love the chattr command :P 
[17:40] <Symmetria> and Im always amazed at how few people bother to actually use the functionality in it
[17:40] <Symmetria> the ability to make sure users can only append to files, and cant delete them etc, while still being able to write to them is well useful 
[17:44] <superfly> hi magespawn
[17:45] <magespawn> hey superfly
[17:45] <magespawn> Kilos did you get the sharing working?
[17:46] <Kilos> nope magespawn 
[17:46] <superfly> Kilos: you need iptables, but it should be installed by default
[17:47] <Kilos> wow it was but doesnt even show in synaptic
[17:48] <Kilos> tried aptitude reinstall
[17:49] <magespawn> Symmetria: you ever work with RouterOS from Mikrotek?
[17:50] <magespawn> would they have changed the package/program name superfly?
[17:53] <superfly> dunno
[17:54] <Kilos> superfly, now do i follow something like this
[17:54] <Kilos> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/howto/other-formats/html_single/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO.html
[17:56] <Kilos> maybe this one
[17:56] <Kilos> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/howto/other-formats/html_single/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO.html
[17:58] <Kilos> haha 
[17:58] <Kilos>  Don't worry about understanding everything here now, but remember to come back and look at this list
[17:59] <Kerbero> magespawn: what do you want to do with the mikrotik?
[18:00] <magespawn> i am looking into setting up a wifi network with internet access fro tourists in hluhluwe
[18:00] <Kerbero> well routeros has a lot of tutorials online
[18:00] <Kerbero> find one that is roughly what you want to do
[18:01] <Kerbero> try it
[18:01] <Kerbero> and then ask if you need a custom change to it
[18:01] <Kerbero> i might be able to help if it is not too complex
[18:02] <magespawn> i just wanted to set each base station ie guest house on its own vlan so that i watch the traffic coming from each one
[18:03] <magespawn> you can also apparently download it and run on a machine to test it
[18:09] <magespawn> doing a whole load of reading but there is a lot on new stuff there for me
[18:09] <Kerbero> yep
[18:10] <Kerbero> little learning curve
[18:11] <magespawn> just a bit
[18:11] <magespawn> also do not want to make the wrong choice money for the project is a bit limited
[18:12] <Kerbero> well mikrotik was not a bad choice
[18:12] <magespawn> the company i contacted for the equipment has been helpful too
[18:14] <magespawn> awesome to learn new things
[18:17] <Kilos> Kerbero, do i just delete the hash in this line?
[18:17] <Kilos> # Uncomment the next line to enable packet forwarding for IPv4
[18:17] <Kilos> #net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
[18:17] <Kerbero> yes
[18:17] <Kilos> the hash next to net
[18:17] <Kerbero> yes
[18:17] <Kerbero> you did sudo to open the file?
[18:17] <Kilos> just delete it or add a space in its place?
[18:18] <Kilos> sudo gedit
[18:18] <Kerbero> just delete it
[18:18] <Kerbero> ok
[18:18] <Kilos> ok ty is it only that one line
[18:18] <Kerbero> after that save, exit and let me know
[18:18] <Kerbero> yes
[18:18] <Kerbero> only that line
[18:18] <Kilos> whew
[18:19] <Kerbero> done?
[18:19] <Kilos> yes
[18:19] <Kerbero> ok in a terminal type
[18:19] <Kerbero> sudo sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf
[18:19] <Kerbero> it is just to apply that change now
[18:20] <Kerbero> without a reboot
[18:20] <Kilos> it shows that line
[18:20] <Kerbero> good
[18:21] <Kilos> this i dont understand at all
[18:21] <Kilos> add a iptables rule to masquerade / NAT all outgoing stuff on the ppp0 interface
[18:22] <Kilos> i understand the ppp0 interface
[18:22] <Kerbero> can't explain now
[18:22] <Kerbero> maybe a little later
[18:22] <Kilos> ok
[18:34] <Kilos> iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -i ! ppp0 -j ACCEPT
[18:34] <Kilos> Bad argument `ppp0'
[18:34] <Kilos> sigh
[18:37] <magespawn> what is the recommeded/best vpn software?
[18:40] <tumbleweed> if ppp0 has gone away, that won't woork
[18:40] <tumbleweed> I suggest using ppp+, which matches all ppp interfaces
[18:41] <Kilos> ty tumbleweed  ill try that
[18:42] <Kilos> Bad argument `ppp+'
[18:43] <Kilos> must i do this with the modem disconnected?
[18:43] <tumbleweed> no, shouldn't matter
[18:43] <tumbleweed> ah
[18:43] <tumbleweed> the ! must go before -i
[18:44] <Kilos> iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW ! -i ppp+ -j ACCEPT
[18:44] <Kilos> like that tumbleweed 
[18:46] <Kilos> yay accepted
[18:46] <Kerbero> hmm
[18:46] <Kerbero> but that rule is in table "INPUT" right?
[18:46] <Kerbero> so it only says yes or no for incoming packets
[18:46] <Kerbero> like a normal firewall
[18:47] <tumbleweed> and the default is accept, so just that rule should do nothing
[18:47] <Kerbero> he needs a rule in the NAT table
[18:47] <Kerbero> to masquerade all outgoing on ppp0
[18:47] <Kilos> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/howto/other-formats/html_single/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO.html
[18:48] <Kilos> im following that Kerbero 
[18:48] <tumbleweed> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j MASQUERADE
[18:48] <Kerbero> ahh yes
[18:48] <Kerbero> Kilos: do that ^
[18:49] <Kerbero> Kilos: that tutorial do a lot of stuff which i don't think is necessary for you
[18:49] <Kilos> done
[18:49] <Kilos> oh
[18:49] <Kilos> lol i only had 2 more commands to enter
[18:50] <Kerbero> just do that iptables -t nat -L so we can see
[18:52] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20zABN6fd
[18:52] <Kerbero> seems ok
[18:53] <Kerbero> and
[18:53] <Kerbero> iptables -L
[18:53] <Kilos> ok so now i try ping google from other pc right?
[18:54] <Kerbero> well, you did not set up any dhcp server right?
[18:55] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s2PLOmPGfM
[18:55] <Kerbero> that looks good too
[18:56] <Kilos> no i have dhcp-server installed but nothing setup as yet
[18:56] <Kerbero> ok
[18:56] <Kerbero> are the two computers connected to each other by network cable?
[18:56] <Kilos> yessir
[18:56] <Kerbero> ok
[18:56] <Kilos> they can ping each other
[18:57] <Kerbero> do you know if they have ip addresses assigned yet? ie, can they communicate with eachother?
[18:57] <Kerbero> ahhh
[18:57] <Kerbero> ping is good
[18:57] <Kilos> yes this one is 10.42.0.1 and other is 10.42.0.2
[18:57] <Kerbero> ok
[18:58] <Kerbero> the computer with the 3g is .1?
[18:58] <Kilos> yes
[18:58] <Kerbero> and you assigned those ip's by hand?
[18:58] <Kilos> they both had same ip so i changed the other to .2
[18:58] <Kerbero> o
[18:58] <Kerbero> ok
[18:59] <Kerbero> you used network manager to change the ip?
[18:59] <Kilos> yes
[18:59] <Kerbero> ok
[18:59] <Kerbero> go there again
[18:59] <Kerbero> there are three columns
[18:59] <Kerbero> on the .2 computer
[18:59] <Kerbero> first column is that ip
[18:59] <Kerbero> second colum is 24
[19:00] <Kerbero> what is in the third column?
[19:01] <Kilos> gateway?
[19:01] <Kerbero> yes
[19:01] <Kilos> nothing
[19:01] <Kerbero> make it the .1 ip
[19:01] <Kerbero> of the other computer
[19:01] <Kilos> this nm is set to share
[19:02] <Kerbero> on the .2 computer it should not be set to share
[19:02] <Kilos> that one is manual
[19:02] <Kerbero> good
[19:03] <Kerbero> on the .2 computer the gateway should be the .1 computer
[19:03] <Kilos> ok so i put 10.42.0.1 in there
[19:03] <Kerbero> yes
[19:04] <Kilos> done
[19:04] <Kerbero> after you changed that applied/closed network manager
[19:04] <Kerbero> replug the network cable
[19:04] <Kerbero> and dial the 3g on your .1 computer
[19:06] <Kilos> hmm how do i do that
[19:06] <Kilos> in nm it doesnt show broadban
[19:06] <Kerbero> how do you normally open 3g on the computer?
[19:06] <Kerbero> o
[19:06] <Kilos> i click 8ta
[19:07] <Kerbero> so can you do it now?
[19:08] <Kilos> it i open .2 nm edit connections it shows 8ta setup in there but doesnt give the option to start it
[19:08] <Kerbero> nono
[19:08] <Kerbero> on the .1 computer
[19:08] <Kerbero> click on 8ta there
[19:08] <Kilos> it is connected
[19:08] <Kerbero> ahh
[19:08] <Kerbero> cool
[19:08] <Kerbero> and your internet on your .1 computer works?
[19:08] <Kerbero> because you are here...
[19:09] <Kerbero> hehe
[19:09] <Kerbero> ok, well, go and test the internet on your other computer
[19:09] <Kilos-> hehe if i tick it here it disconnects and reconnects
[19:09] <Kilos-> ok i go see
[19:10] <Kerbero> you don't have to touch 8ta again if the internet is already on on the .1 computer
[19:11] <Kilos-> .2 doesnt connect
[19:11] <Kerbero> uhm
[19:12] <Kerbero> so you can't access google on the .2 computer?
[19:12] <Kilos-> nope
[19:12] <Kerbero> debugging :(
[19:12] <Kerbero> hmm
[19:13] <Kilos-> but they can still ping each other
[19:13] <Kerbero> first thing to change is: change .1 computer to manual
[19:13] <Kerbero> making the ip the same as it was
[19:13] <Kerbero> subnet 24
[19:13] <Kerbero> gateway its own ip
[19:14] <Kilos-> subnet? netmask
[19:14] <Kerbero> first column: ip
[19:14] <Kerbero> second column: subnet
[19:14] <Kerbero> lol
[19:14] <Kerbero> yes
[19:15] <Kerbero> sorry
[19:15] <Kerbero> i meant netmask
[19:15] <Kilos-> whew
[19:16] <Kilos-> done
[19:17] <Kerbero> ok
[19:17] <Kerbero> check if they can ping eachother still
[19:18] <Kilos-> they can
[19:18] <Kerbero> ok
[19:18] <Kilos-> bhut no google there
[19:18] <Kerbero> ok
[19:19] <Kerbero> on the .2 computer
[19:19] <Kerbero> type
[19:19] <Kerbero> tracepath www.google.com
[19:19] <Kilos-> unknown host
[19:20] <Kerbero> ahh
[19:20] <Kilos-> and firefox dont open
[19:21] <Kerbero> ok
[19:21] <Kerbero> type in a terminal on the .2 computer
[19:21] <Kerbero> nslookup www.google.com
[19:21] <Kerbero> give me that output
[19:21] <Kerbero> and then after that
[19:22] <Kerbero> nslookup www.google.com 10.42.0.1
[19:22] <Kilos-> sec i type slow
[19:23] <Kilos-> server 127.0.0.1
[19:23] <Kilos-> address 127.0.0.1#53
[19:24] <Kilos-> ** server cant find www.google.com  REFUSED
[19:24] <Kilos-> hehe
[19:24] <Kerbero> ok
[19:24] <Kilos-> hard without copy/paste
[19:24] <Kerbero> sorry for the lot of typework
[19:24] <Kilos-> np
[19:25] <Kilos-> im just slow
[19:26] <Kerbero> so with that second command, dus it also give an error, or does it reply with an ip address?
[19:28] <Kilos-> what i typed above was the output
[19:28] <Kilos-> all of it
[19:28] <Kerbero> for the command "nslookup www.google.com 10.42.0.1" too?
[19:28] <Kilos-> no wait
[19:28] <Kilos-> i left out the ip
[19:28] <Kilos-> sorry
[19:29] <Kerbero> :)
[19:32] <Kilos-> miles@op4:~$ nslookup www.google.com 10.42.0.1
[19:32] <Kilos-> Server:		10.42.0.1
[19:32] <Kilos-> Address:	10.42.0.1#53
[19:32] <Kilos-> Non-authoritative answer:
[19:32] <Kilos-> Name:	www.google.com
[19:32] <Kilos-> Address: 173.194.41.178
[19:32] <Kilos-> Name:	www.google.com
[19:32] <Kilos-> Address: 173.194.41.176
[19:32] <Kilos-> Name:	www.google.com
[19:32] <Kilos-> Address: 173.194.41.177
[19:32] <Kilos-> Name:	www.google.com
[19:32] <Kerbero> awesome
[19:32] <Kilos-> Address: 173.194.41.179
[19:32] <Kilos-> Name:	www.google.com
[19:32] <Kilos-> Address: 173.194.41.180
[19:32] <Kilos-> lol saved to a stick , brought here and copy/pasted
[19:32] <Kerbero> was not necessary
[19:32] <Kerbero> just wanted to know if you get an ip or not
[19:33] <Kilos-> how else you gonna see it
[19:33] <Kerbero> but this is good news
[19:33] <Kerbero> ok
[19:33] <Kilos-> ah
[19:33] <Kerbero> so, go to network manager on .2
[19:33] <Kerbero> and below the forced ip entry
[19:33] <Kerbero> there is a dns servers block
[19:33] <Kerbero> add "10.42.0.1" in that block
[19:34] <Kerbero> save...
[19:34] <Kerbero> and replug cable
[19:34] <Kerbero> and test the internet on .2
[19:35] <Kilos-> must i tick the require ipv4 addressing for this pc block
[19:35] <Kerbero> hmm
[19:35] <Kerbero> yes
[19:35] <Kilos-> on this pc as well?
[19:36] <Kerbero> does not really matter
[19:36] <Kerbero> but it is better to do it in your case
[19:36] <Kilos-> ok i pull plug now
[19:40] <Kerbero> Kilos-: how does it look?
[19:42] <Kerbero> that's not good
[19:42] <magespawn> Kerbero: is he not just changing it over?
[19:42] <Kerbero> no
[19:42] <Kerbero> the 3g should remain connected
[19:43] <Kerbero> ie, his irc should stay connected
[19:44] <magespawn> i thought he had to switch the 3G to the other machine
[19:45] <Kerbero> i hope he is not trying to move the 3g modem to the other machine
[19:45] <Kerbero> because the entire setup assumes it remains where it was op till now
[19:45] <Kilos> wow
[19:45] <Kerbero> o
[19:45] <Kerbero> wow what?
[19:45] <Kilos> it disconnected xchat and couldnt get back
[19:46] <Kilos> had to unplug cable
[19:46] <Kerbero> o
[19:46] <Kilos> lemme plug it in again and see
[19:47] <Kerbero> does not look good
[19:49] <Kilos-> nope
[19:49] <Kerbero> ai
[19:49] <Kilos-> it kills xchat
[19:49] <Kilos-> ya ai
[19:49] <Kerbero> op die rekenaar wat jy nou is
[19:49] <Kilos-> what did we do
[19:49] <Kerbero> die een met xchat
[19:49] <Kerbero> tik in 'n terminal 
[19:49] <Kerbero> ip route
[19:49] <Kilos-> ja
[19:50] <Kerbero> en gee vir my die output erens online
[19:50] <Kerbero> eintlik meot ek dit he^ met die kabel ingeplug
[19:50] <Kilos-> default via 10.64.64.64 dev ppp0  proto static 
[19:50] <Kilos-> 10.64.64.64 dev ppp0  proto kernel  scope link  src 41.151.152.160 
[19:51] <Kilos-> o met dit in
[19:51] <Kerbero> daai is met die kabel uitgeplug
[19:51] <Kerbero> ok
[19:51] <Kerbero> ek dink ek weet wat hier gebeur
[19:51] <Kilos-> wil jy na my kanaal gaan dan spam ek nie hier nie
[19:51] <Kerbero> ok
[19:51] <Kilos-> ##kilos
[19:52] <magespawn> this is an ubuntu problem so not really spam
[20:21] <Kilos-> yooohooo i got 2 pcs using 1 3g connection
[20:23]  * Kerbero still wanted to tell Symmetria about his IPv6 setup
[20:24] <Kerbero> ok, slaaptyd
[20:24] <Kerbero> nag mense
[20:24] <Kilos-> night Kerbero ty again
[20:27] <Kilos-> goodness me look at the time
[20:27] <Kilos-> night everyone. sleep tight
[20:27] <magespawn> night Kerbero
[20:28] <magespawn> night Kilos
[20:28] <Kilos-> see you morrow magespawn 
[20:28] <magespawn> indeed
[20:33] <magespawn> i am also off to bed. goog night all, ty Kerbero