| === metzthepest is now known as metasansana | ||
| tizz | ah ha! | 02:14 |
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| ramprasadgk | http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ | 03:12 |
| ramprasadgk | someone pls take a look | 03:12 |
| ramprasadgk | i am having terrible time with ubuntu | 03:20 |
| ramprasadgk | or rather broadcom wireless on ubuntu | 03:20 |
| v1adimir | sry no wireless here | 03:22 |
| ramprasadgk | hmm | 03:23 |
| v1adimir | uhh 'here' as in @ my box :s | 03:23 |
| ramprasadgk | got it | 03:27 |
| ramprasadgk | thats okay...109 people in room :) | 03:27 |
| ramprasadgk | sorry 108 who might have wirell | 03:27 |
| ramprasadgk | wireless* | 03:28 |
| ramprasadgk | where are you from.? what time is it there.. its a lovely morning here | 03:28 |
| v1adimir | it's gonna be morning in belgrade real soon hehe | 03:29 |
| ramprasadgk | thats good | 03:30 |
| ramprasadgk | whats new | 03:31 |
| ramprasadgk | why do use *buntu | 03:31 |
| v1adimir | i'm still exploring it, but 12.04 is the first distro that installed with no problems and did what i needed + the firewall :) | 03:32 |
| ramprasadgk | ok.. | 03:33 |
| ramprasadgk | NO problems is good thing | 03:33 |
| ramprasadgk | welll btw, if you can let me know | 03:33 |
| ramprasadgk | where can i downlaod package to install vlc | 03:33 |
| v1adimir | i ran fedora for a long time (long ago) and got (very) fed up with it :s | 03:33 |
| ramprasadgk | i have this link http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=vlc | 03:34 |
| ramprasadgk | but you know i dont have info on diff versions of *buntu | 03:34 |
| ramprasadgk | fed up..? | 03:34 |
| v1adimir | yea pretty much sick of it | 03:35 |
| v1adimir | =) | 03:35 |
| ramprasadgk | i use GNU Linux, i built it from core | 03:35 |
| v1adimir | vlc is in the software center, but you can get it @ http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html | 03:35 |
| v1adimir | oic hm | 03:35 |
| ramprasadgk | firstly i dont have internet on my linux box, if i have to do i need to download from my other windows system and install | 03:36 |
| v1adimir | not sure for custom builds, but you could try a repo like https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/master-daily | 03:38 |
| v1adimir | (except idk what the stable one is) | 03:38 |
| ramprasadgk | ok thanks | 03:39 |
| ramprasadgk | i have this parole | 03:39 |
| ramprasadgk | it does require lot of codecs decoders | 03:39 |
| ramprasadgk | cant find one | 03:39 |
| ramprasadgk | there is no one place to get them | 03:40 |
| v1adimir | yeah it sucks :) | 03:40 |
| ramprasadgk | so i decided to for vlc | 03:40 |
| v1adimir | audacious and vlc are like the first things i install | 03:40 |
| ramprasadgk | oh well | 03:43 |
| ramprasadgk | custom building vlc is ugly | 03:43 |
| ramprasadgk | how abt audacious is there any neat manual download install | 03:44 |
| v1adimir | not sure :S | 03:44 |
| ramprasadgk | i dint get nay help here | 04:33 |
| ramprasadgk | but havent lost hope | 04:33 |
| ramprasadgk | asking one more Q | 04:33 |
| ramprasadgk | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xubuntu-restricted-extras | 04:33 |
| ramprasadgk | i ahve got latest xubuntu installed , which one to install from the list in the link to play mp3 files? | 04:34 |
| ramprasadgk | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xubuntu-restricted-extras | 04:34 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| ramprasadgk | this chaneel is dead | 05:54 |
| ramprasadgk | http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ | 05:54 |
| XATRIX | hi guys, i have a problem with changing my keyboard layouts, i set "Change Keyboard layout" to Ctrl+shift in panel applet, and it works, but after i reboot my machine, it switches back to Alt+Shift... How can i make it remember my shortcut ? | 06:33 |
| xubuntu854 | hello | 09:15 |
| knome | hullo | 09:15 |
| === xubuntu854 is now known as AlexxC | ||
| XATRIX | hi guys, i have a problem with changing my keyboard layouts, i set "Change Keyboard layout" to Ctrl+shift in panel applet, and it works, but after i reboot my machine, it switches back to Alt+Shift... How can i make it remember my shortcut ? | 09:17 |
| wcapio | hi guys, xdfe puts the file names on my desktop in a little rounded corner block... how can I switch that off? | 09:41 |
| TheSheep | wcapio: what is xdfe? | 09:41 |
| wcapio | xubuntu desktop manager, not? owww i mean xfce | 09:42 |
| wcapio | :| sry | 09:42 |
| Mathias | :P | 09:42 |
| wcapio | do you guys know what I mean or should I rephrase? | 09:43 |
| TheSheep | wcapio: https://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/howto-remove-the-borders-of-your-desktop-icon-text/ | 09:55 |
| wcapio | tnx | 10:01 |
| wcapio | does xubuntu 12.04 have gtk2, though? | 10:01 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| XATRIX | is it possible to install and use "yum" instead of apt-get ? | 12:14 |
| marky_boi | hi people , having issues getting VBoxClient to run at startup, where would be best to start ? | 12:15 |
| recon_tv | XATRIX: I don't think so, probably break loads of things. the packet manager would be a core app | 12:18 |
| recon_tv | XATRIX: why would you want to change it? | 12:23 |
| marky_boi | @ dr_willis sent a PM | 12:24 |
| XATRIX | recon_tv, just familliar to yum | 12:29 |
| XATRIX | was curious is is possible to use it | 12:29 |
| recon_tv | XATRIX: well it's pretty easy to use apt-get, if you have questions just ask here :) | 12:30 |
| recon_tv | markky_boi: have a look at http://www.linuxhomeserverguide.com/server-config/phpVirtualBox.php , but since you dont know how to wait I guess you'll miss this lol | 12:34 |
| recon_tv | XATRIX: just remember that apt-get is .deb based and yun is .rpm based , they dont mix | 12:36 |
| jrmy | I'm not able to get to my login screen | 13:38 |
| jrmy | good thing I know about irssi | 13:38 |
| holstein | so, you can login just fine then... what about starting x from the command line? do you get any errors? | 13:39 |
| jrmy | I'd copy my boot screen but I have no idea how | 13:39 |
| jrmy | it does fail on one of them | 13:39 |
| jrmy | don't know how to start x | 13:39 |
| jrmy | and I thought it was called xorg | 13:39 |
| holstein | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/startx.1.html | 13:40 |
| jrmy | how do you load a webpage without a gui? | 13:41 |
| jrmy | but no it does not boot properly | 13:41 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: just type startx on the commandline | 13:41 |
| holstein | jrmy: well, you could do it in a curses web browser.. but you could also ask 'how do i start x' and i would say .. type startx | 13:41 |
| jrmy | it trys and goes to tty1.. instead of the login screen | 13:42 |
| holstein | you'll be interested in the errors after you type "startx" and hit enter | 13:42 |
| recon_tv | jrmy have you changed anything recently, did it work before? | 13:42 |
| holstein | i usually try booting the last kernel that worked well, if this is after a system upgrade | 13:43 |
| recon_tv | yep, was a kernel update yesterday | 13:43 |
| jrmy | that made me freeze | 13:44 |
| jrmy | but yes it would appear that it isn'r working | 13:45 |
| holstein | jrmy: startx? or the earlier kernel? | 13:45 |
| jrmy | I think the time I restarted my computer mid boot 'cause the problem | 13:45 |
| holstein | jrmy: it being, startx to start the gui isnt working? | 13:45 |
| jrmy | this is what is crashing | 13:45 |
| jrmy | caused* | 13:46 |
| jrmy | yes x is crashing for some reason | 13:46 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: I would be surprised if stopping a boot would cause these problems | 13:46 |
| jrmy | kind of a noob here... | 13:46 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: I take it you could log in yesterday? | 13:46 |
| jrmy | I hit my restart button on my case | 13:46 |
| jrmy | hard reset* | 13:46 |
| holstein | i would do an fsck if i thought forcing rebooting had damaged the filesystem | 13:47 |
| jrmy | last time wa the last time I could login no prob | 13:47 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1980351 suggests sudo touch /forcefsck to get fsck on reboot | 13:47 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: did you install updates ? | 13:47 |
| jrmy | yeah recently | 13:47 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: do you know if you use property video drivers? | 13:48 |
| jrmy | yes | 13:48 |
| jrmy | which work | 13:48 |
| holstein | an upgrade could have broken that... and you could try the last kerne easy enough jrmy | 13:48 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: I guess that new kernel + property video driver = broken login | 13:48 |
| jrmy | perhaps | 13:48 |
| holstein | i would just boot the last kernel and confirm that in a few seconds | 13:49 |
| jrmy | but without a real diagnostic we won't know what the problem is | 13:49 |
| jrmy | how do I do this anyways? | 13:49 |
| holstein | jrmy: that would be quite diagnostic.. reboot with the older kernel.. if it boots, you know its likely the kernel upgrade | 13:49 |
| holstein | jrmy: this? boot the older kernel? | 13:49 |
| jrmy | I did have the problem before hand though | 13:50 |
| jrmy | but I leave my computer on almost all the time | 13:50 |
| jrmy | so.. I do what now? | 13:50 |
| holstein | jrmy: before what? | 13:51 |
| jrmy | I also have a dual boot setup with windows 7 | 13:51 |
| recon_tv | what key gets the boot menu up? | 13:51 |
| holstein | jrmy: i would boot the older kernel | 13:51 |
| jrmy | is it in the boot menu? | 13:51 |
| holstein | jrmy: it being the kernel? | 13:51 |
| jrmy | I hope we both assume we're talking about the same thing, that being the kernel | 13:52 |
| holstein | jrmy: i would like to assume nothing | 13:52 |
| holstein | jrmy: i want to test and know waht "it" is.. | 13:52 |
| holstein | the grub menu will show the kernels.. you will see the older ones under the "previous" entry listed there | 13:53 |
| jrmy | then "it" is nothing based on that statement as I'm only referring to what you might be talking about | 13:53 |
| holstein | you should see the lates kernel.. and the recovery version under that.. then, right under that you'll see "previous" | 13:53 |
| holstein | you'll find the last kernel that worked there | 13:53 |
| jrmy | ok | 13:53 |
| jrmy | brb | 13:54 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: any if it does work, change back to the standard drivers | 13:54 |
| jrmy | guess the new kernel is incompatible | 13:58 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: switch back to the standard video drivers would be a start | 13:58 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: I assume you got to login with the older kernel | 13:59 |
| jrmy | yes | 13:59 |
| jrmy | how do I use default drivers? | 13:59 |
| jrmy | not that I want to... | 13:59 |
| jrmy | I much rather need them to play minecraft | 14:00 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: Menu-> settings -> additional drivers | 14:01 |
| jrmy | hah, ya know, if I knew how to revert to the old drivers I could of saved reinstalling my os all those times | 14:01 |
| jrmy | is there perhaps updated drivers or does it always update? | 14:02 |
| jrmy | I know amd updates ccc everynow and then | 14:03 |
| jrmy | well catalyst rather | 14:03 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: maybe, I'd set it to the standard ones first and try reboot just to make sure they are working, if that works you could try the property drives again | 14:03 |
| jrmy | not sure if you're typoing or not | 14:04 |
| jrmy | propietary | 14:04 |
| recon_tv | :-[ | 14:04 |
| jrmy | but anyways, I'll try removing the drivers booting with the updated kernel and reinstalling the drivers | 14:05 |
| jrmy | is there a way to remove them from the shell? | 14:05 |
| jrmy | I'd rather not reinstall again.. that's just idiotic | 14:05 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: one step at a time | 14:06 |
| jrmy | sorry I just find all the bs I have to go through with linux and trying to fix it all a little overwhelming | 14:07 |
| jrmy | I'd rather have more knowledge | 14:07 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: it's the same with all computers :) | 14:07 |
| jrmy | I'm much more accustomed to windows | 14:07 |
| jrmy | easy street there | 14:07 |
| jrmy | well brb | 14:08 |
| jrmy | ok so propietary drivers are a no go from this current look out | 14:13 |
| jrmy | but then again.. maybe it could be something else | 14:14 |
| recon_tv | o well, how is mine craft doing in the open drivers? | 14:14 |
| jrmy | I hardly feel it worth not using my 1GB video card | 14:14 |
| jrmy | all of* | 14:14 |
| jrmy | lets see | 14:15 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: the problem is with the video card producers, if they cared a little more about their uses the drivers would work on all systems | 14:16 |
| recon_tv | users* | 14:16 |
| recon_tv | just keep that in you mind next time you buy a computer :) | 14:18 |
| jrmy | for one it won't even let me play in fullscreen | 14:18 |
| jrmy | nor can I use the resoultion 720p | 14:18 |
| jrmy | buy... or build | 14:18 |
| jrmy | I bought amd based parts | 14:19 |
| jrmy | haven't checked the fps though | 14:19 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: what video card you got? probably just have to file a bug report and watch it being ignored by amd | 14:19 |
| jrmy | HD 5770 | 14:20 |
| jrmy | yeah I get half fps without the drivers | 14:21 |
| jrmy | I'd rather play on windows again at this point | 14:21 |
| jrmy | sucks I didn;t grow up with linux | 14:21 |
| jrmy | I would of much rather | 14:21 |
| recon_tv | when did you last update your drivers, seems the last Catalyst release was 8/15/2012 | 14:22 |
| jrmy | heck if I know | 14:23 |
| jrmy | probably a few months ago | 14:23 |
| jrmy | maybe half a year back? | 14:23 |
| jrmy | I set up a dual boot.. and didn't really do anythign with my distro | 14:23 |
| jrmy | thought I'd give linux another go. got bored with it.. and I decided to come back as the only game I was playing any more was minecraft. so I figured what was the point of using windows? | 14:24 |
| jrmy | but, once again I get problems left and right | 14:25 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: so what OS do you want to use? | 14:25 |
| jrmy | seems whenever I want to customize things I get problems.. idk mayeb xubuntu isn't the distro for me | 14:25 |
| jrmy | linux | 14:25 |
| jrmy | I'm tired of windows.. | 14:26 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: well, when you go custom the learning starts :) the price of freedom | 14:26 |
| jrmy | I just preferred xubuntu because I like using the shell and xfce's shell looks cooler | 14:27 |
| jrmy | more customizable too | 14:27 |
| jrmy | or at least it is on xubuntu | 14:27 |
| jrmy | that and I like the look and feel over gnome | 14:27 |
| jrmy | but road blocks show up as the manpages for ubuntu don't always help me with xubuntu.. I assume it's the enviroment difference | 14:28 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: well the video card problems would have hit in any distro | 14:28 |
| jrmy | or whatever xfce and gnome are called | 14:28 |
| jrmy | about all I knw with the shell is a little bit on looking at directories, apt-get commands like install, update and upgrade, and how to use nano and irssi | 14:29 |
| jrmy | 'bout it | 14:29 |
| jrmy | well I found out how to play nethack with telnet.. but yeah | 14:30 |
| XATRIX | guys, how can i make my set my keyboard layout switch shortcut to ctrl+shift ? | 14:30 |
| jrmy | I think i'll try activating the drivers again.. and if it doesn't work again I'll repeat the last steps up till now.. bbl | 14:31 |
| XATRIX | every time i have to set it up to ctrl+shift again | 14:32 |
| XATRIX | it automatically set to Alt+shift | 14:33 |
| recon_tv | XATRIX: probably in setting manager somewhere, knowing that it's Alt+Shift as default helps, how do you change it ? | 14:35 |
| XATRIX | i'm changing via "Keyboard layouts" applet on my XFCE Panel | 14:39 |
| XATRIX | But it always reverts to default (Alt+shift) after i restart | 14:40 |
| recon_tv | XATRIX: have you opened the "keyboard input method" in "system settings", did it install the ibus deamon | 14:43 |
| jrmy | if I wanted to use an older kernel what would be the down sides? | 14:44 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: I'd suggest try installing the latested driver, and checking the does to see if it works with kernel 3.20-31 | 14:44 |
| recon_tv | installing*/downloading | 14:44 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx | 14:45 |
| XATRIX | yes it wants to | 14:45 |
| XATRIX | but not installed yet | 14:45 |
| recon_tv | XATRIX: so let it | 14:45 |
| jrmy | a link isn't very useful atm.. I'm currently in the test of the new kernel with the propietary drivers.. which it did not work | 14:46 |
| recon_tv | XATRIX: actually I just guessing here, but I think this is the answer | 14:46 |
| jarnos | Firefox is soo slow in my computer. X takes a lot of CPU in normal use. | 14:46 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: well you'll have to use the standard driver till you find a update that works | 14:47 |
| jarnos | In 11.04 chromium used to work fast, but in later releases it keeps crashing. | 14:47 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: so check what version of catalyst you got now again the latest version | 14:48 |
| jarnos | What is wrong? Is my hardware unsupported? | 14:48 |
| recon_tv | against* | 14:49 |
| xubuntu239 | Hello, can someone tell me where I can find configuration files for Xubuntu-desktop ? The program associated with hyperlinks is wrong and I want to change it. Thank you. | 14:49 |
| recon_tv | XATRIX: did that help any? | 14:50 |
| jrmy | recon_tv: how do I check with a command? | 14:50 |
| recon_tv | jrmy: I don't have any property drivers so can't really guide you, i'd expect it to be shown in "addition drivers" | 14:52 |
| jrmy | I don't have a gui to use atm | 14:53 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| recon_tv | jrmy: it'd be quicker for you to boot back into last know kernel, switch to open driver and reboot | 14:53 |
| XATRIX | recon_tv, no idea... it just started a new tray icon, i put a setting to , maybe next time i reboot i will see it | 14:54 |
| recon_tv | XATRIX: sure, wont know till you reboot, but I have hi hopes :) | 14:55 |
| recon_tv | high* | 14:55 |
| XATRIX | ) | 14:56 |
| recon_tv | xubuntu239: have a look for xubuntu-default-settings , probably a hidden file in you home dir | 14:57 |
| xubuntu239 | recon_tv: Ok, I will look at files of this package. | 15:00 |
| recon_tv | xubuntu239: it's not a package, it's a setting file on you harddrive | 15:01 |
| recon_tv | jarnos: what hardware are you using, ubuntu version ect | 15:01 |
| recon_tv | afk of a bit. :) | 15:03 |
| jarnos | recon_tv, 12.04 (upgraded from 11.10), Some AMD Athlon XP CPU, VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 420] (rev a3) | 15:03 |
| xubuntu239 | recon_tv: I have a package with that name installed, but no file... | 15:06 |
| drc | xubuntu239: App Menu>Settings>Preferred Settings | 15:09 |
| drc | er...Preferred Applications...sorry | 15:09 |
| ramprasadgk | http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ | 15:10 |
| ramprasadgk | can someone have sol for my wireless problem | 15:11 |
| ramprasadgk | everything seems ok , but no wlan0 device on ifconfig | 15:12 |
| ramprasadgk | http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ | 15:12 |
| xubuntu239 | drc: The problme is that I have a lot of bad stuff in the list proposed in Settings>Preferred Settings and I want to edit this list. But I don't know where it is stored. | 15:13 |
| drc | xubuntu239: " I have a lot of bad stuff in the list...." There are only 4 items there, what's the problem? | 15:15 |
| xubuntu239 | drc: I have add more items and several have the same name, it is a big mess. I just want to clean up and keep the good one. | 15:17 |
| recon_tv | xubuntu239: in file manager, go into the view menu as check "show hidden files" then open your home folder and look in .config | 15:20 |
| drc | xubuntu239: Take a look at ~/.config/xfce4/helpers.rc | 15:20 |
| recon_tv | found my hat and am off for my walk, good luck , bbl | 15:21 |
| XATRIX | recon_tv, just did reboot, seems like it's working ;) thanks | 15:26 |
| jrmy | ok so I installed the latest drivers from amd's website using a guide I googled | 15:28 |
| jrmy | which is fine but I really don't know much about the commands | 15:28 |
| jrmy | and it works with the current kernel | 15:28 |
| jrmy | I howeever don't even know how to access the control center as an administrator.. just clicking it in the menuy don't work.. and apparently amdcccle isn't the command | 15:29 |
| jrmy | I noticed this sh command which I might want to know more about but whatever | 15:29 |
| jrmy | anyways.. prob solved.. thanks for the help | 15:29 |
| bricot | hi, thunar 1.2.3 (xubuntu 12.04) does not show any files from my home dir: »/home/bricot/.gvfs«: socket not connected. What's wrong? | 15:30 |
| ramprasadgk | http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ | 15:34 |
| ramprasadgk | http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ | 15:39 |
| ramprasadgk | http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ | 15:39 |
| ramprasadgk | http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ | 15:39 |
| knome | ramprasadgk, stop repeating | 15:39 |
| ramprasadgk | i read soemwhere world's most active open source irc is *ubuntu | 15:40 |
| ramprasadgk | this channel sucks | 15:40 |
| knome | !attitude | ramprasadgk | 15:41 |
| ubottu | ramprasadgk: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 15:41 |
| ramprasadgk | yes, ofcourse, i ahve been waiting since 3 days for workable soln | 15:43 |
| ramprasadgk | this is not the same as perlmonks.org | 15:43 |
| ramprasadgk | where i almost get reply instantly i provide soln too | 15:43 |
| knome | yes, but solutions aren't always available even if you waited three weeks | 15:44 |
| ramprasadgk | oh yeah than *ubuntu skz | 15:44 |
| knome | ramprasadgk, (x)ubuntu is not perl | 15:44 |
| knome | ramprasadgk, fix your attitude or i'll have to remove you from the channel | 15:44 |
| ramprasadgk | oh yeah.. doent matter | 15:45 |
| ramprasadgk | doesn't* | 15:45 |
| knome | irc isn't the only method to get help, see: http://xubuntu.org/help/ | 15:45 |
| knome | very well, noted. | 15:45 |
| ramprasadgk | i have queried on all forums | 15:46 |
| ramprasadgk | but no reply | 15:46 |
| bricot | My problem seems to be the same as in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/754618 | 15:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 754618 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Failed to open encrypted home directory" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:54 |
| bricot | Are there any workarounds? | 15:55 |
| xubuntu159 | salut | 15:57 |
| xubuntu159 | hello | 15:59 |
| recon_tv | !hi | xubuntu159 | 15:59 |
| ubottu | xubuntu159: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 15:59 |
| recon_tv | bricot: have you considered using nautilus till the bug gets fixed? | 16:07 |
| bricot | Yes I do. I'm also successful to do: sudo umount /home/bricot/.gvfs | 16:13 |
| bricot | But the problem is not all my users are able to do that. | 16:14 |
| bricot | This bug seems to be over a year old. That's why I'm asking for a better workaround, or better, a solution for maybe 12.10. | 16:16 |
| recon_tv | bricot: I hear you, but the bug only just got confirmed status. bit passed me though. I was wary of encrypted home folders even given my high level of paranoia :) | 16:20 |
| recon_tv | bricot: car you reproduce it ? | 16:20 |
| recon_tv | car/can* | 16:20 |
| bricot | All I can say at the moment is that it happens from time to time. So my answer is no unfortunately. I'm not sure what triggers this issue. | 16:23 |
| recon_tv | bricot: try logout and back in again, no reboot | 16:24 |
| bricot | That didn't help, but unmounting did (following the bug report). I just had to restart Thunar to see my home directory. | 16:25 |
| recon_tv | bricot: I want to see if we can produce the bug on demand, only way a fix is likely if we can reproduce the bug on demand | 16:26 |
| bricot | recon_tv: I agree. | 16:26 |
| recon_tv | bricot: the trigger described is to logout to gdm and back in again, does that reproduce the bug? | 16:30 |
| bricot | recon_tv: I'll leave know and try it out. Unfortunately I'm a Ubuntu convert and switched back to lightdm, because I don't like gdm. But I have another netbook with gdm in place. I'll be back soon. | 16:32 |
| recon_tv | bricot: well, just try it on the system that you having the issue on, I only said gdm because thats what the report said | 16:33 |
| bricot | recon_tv: I can reproduce that bug: every *second* login on that machine with the encrypted home (lightdm, 64-bit). My netbook does not show this bug (Plain Xubuntu with gdm, no encrypted home, 32-bit). Both 12.04. | 16:43 |
| recon_tv | bricot: on the machine you can reproduce it on, is the home dir on a different partition to the root | 16:44 |
| bricot | recon_tv: no. | 16:45 |
| recon_tv | bricot: well, now that you can reproduce it I suggest you add your findings to the bug report with all the software and version numbers etc , then try get some interest from the ubuntu+1 and xubuntu+1 channels. | 16:48 |
| bricot | recon_tv: ok, I'll try. | 16:49 |
| recon_tv | bricot: sorry but this is as far as my knowledge can get us :) | 16:49 |
| bricot | recon_tv: thanks anyway! | 16:50 |
| snikendei | haha... så ProjectX, nettopp. Måtte se den etter episoden i nederland. Dette må prøves! Noe som har ett hus og låne bort? =) | 17:11 |
| snikendei | obs. wrong place | 17:12 |
| Mathias | snikendei: lol :P | 17:14 |
| Gimpette | Two fold question, please: I know how to install fonts to Gimp. What I don't know is where the gazillion and half system (?) fonts that show up on my Gimp font list came from or how to go about safely removing them; if not from the system at least from my list of fonts in Gimp. I don't want to have to scroll through a few hundred fonts I don't want in order to get to the ones I do. Any suggestions? Thanks! | 19:06 |
| knome | Gimpette, it should be safe to remove if you don't need them, eg. if they're not used in the interface, or you don't need other than western/korean/etc fonts | 19:08 |
| Gimpette | Is there a way that I can just remove them from the Gimp list so that I don't risk screwing something up system-wise? | 19:09 |
| Gimpette | I didn't add any of them myself so I am assuming some interface or something somewhere must want them for them to have gotten on my machine in the first place. | 19:10 |
| knome | hmm, i'm not sure - i afraif not | 19:10 |
| knome | nope, xubuntu has quite a lot of fonts installed by default for convenience for non-western users | 19:11 |
| Gimpette | Do you know of a list anywhere that specifically states which fonts are safe to remove and which aren't? I know you mentioned some, but I don't know which fonts are used in interfaces and which aren't. | 19:13 |
| knome | Gimpette, see apps -> settings -> settings manager -> appearance -> tab fonts | 19:22 |
| knome | and ... settings manager -> window manager -> tab style (title font) | 19:23 |
| knome | those are the ones you don't want to remove | 19:23 |
| knome | afaik others are safe to remove | 19:23 |
| knome | well, you probably don't want to remove all serif fonts, all monospace fonts etc..., but there's no reason why you couldn't remove any | 19:24 |
| knome | and if something seems to break, you can always revert and reintroduce the fonts you need | 19:24 |
| Gimpette | Ok, those are set to sans and sans bold respectively. There is a font manager somewhere for easy removal, isn't there? | 19:37 |
| knome | no, at least not installed by default | 19:39 |
| knome | oh, and you don't want to remove the default terminal font either. | 19:39 |
| Gimpette | Ok, thanks much for the help. I see that I previously installed Fontmatrix but it looked rather too complicated for the time I had available to devote to figuring it out so I just left it. I guess I'll just have to knuckle down and look at it again. Thanks. | 19:42 |
| Gimpette | Where can I find out which font is the default for the terminal, do you know? | 19:42 |
| Marzata | Gimpette: we use Ubuntu Mono, coz renders zero and O differently | 19:57 |
| Gimpette | @Marzata: Thanks, I'm fine with how everything is rendering now; I'd just like to take out the fonts I won't use in design projects without breaking anything. Looking into a different font manager now. This shouldn't be this complicated, I wonder why there isn't a simple one for idiots installed by default. :) | 20:03 |
| knome | Marzata, who we? | 20:07 |
| knome | Gimpette, right-click terminal -> preferences -> tab appearance to check out the terminal font you are using | 20:08 |
| Gimpette | I don't have a preferences option when right clicking; only properties and tab appearance isn't there. Maybe I'm not in the right place. Will look some more. | 20:10 |
| knome | Gimpette, are you using xfce4-terminal? | 20:10 |
| Derpian | Hey, I try to change my full name in Users and Groups under System and it does not change at all | 20:10 |
| Gimpette | Found it! Thanks! | 20:10 |
| knome | Gimpette, np | 20:10 |
| Gimpette | Have been trying out Font Manager and it appears to easily allow for reactivation so I'm going to try clearing that font list out some; thanks again! | 20:12 |
| Derpian | Fixed it, ran sudo usermod -c "NAME IN THE QUOTES" username | 20:17 |
| Guest26049 | I'm trying to install Xubuntu with a LiveCD but it keeps failing to install the bootloader... | 20:34 |
| Guest26049 | I thought /dev/sda would be it | 20:35 |
| Guest26049 | /dev/sda2 is windows vista loader...if that's relevant | 20:35 |
| Guest26049 | hello? | 20:40 |
| xubuntu850 | Hello , I have a question concerning xubuntu-12.04.1, which I just installed, | 20:40 |
| Guest26049 | I cannot install the bootloader, can anybody help? | 20:41 |
| mongy | Guest26049, what errors do you get. and /dev/sda is correct. | 20:42 |
| Guest26049 | I have a screenshot | 20:43 |
| Guest26049 | how can I send it? | 20:43 |
| xubuntu850 | The video,settings, when I installed it, it said it could not find the video type, and I was not sure what type I had, or to select. Is there a way to change this after the install, ? If so how.? | 20:44 |
| Guest26049 | that will show you what I'm looking at | 20:44 |
| mongy | no dcc here. use imgur or sometihng. | 20:44 |
| Guest26049 | here | 20:45 |
| Guest26049 | http://imgur.com/RM0XI,IRORD,KISLm | 20:45 |
| mongy | are you booted into the livecd now | 20:46 |
| Guest26049 | yes | 20:46 |
| mongy | mount your xubuntu partition.. sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt | 20:48 |
| Guest26049 | ok now what? do I run the install Xubuntu again? | 20:49 |
| mongy | sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda | 20:49 |
| Guest26049 | says installation finished. No error reported | 20:50 |
| Guest26049 | should I be good to go? | 20:50 |
| mongy | hmm, ok try it. | 20:51 |
| mongy | run sudo update-grub once you booted into it, if it works. | 20:51 |
| Guest26049 | into what? | 20:52 |
| Guest26049 | linux? | 20:52 |
| Guest26049 | or do I run it now? | 20:53 |
| Guest26049 | in liveCD | 20:53 |
| mongy | sorry, yes, reboot and it 'should' load xubuntu by default. | 20:53 |
| Guest26049 | ok but I'm dual booting, would I be able to boot into windows as well? | 20:54 |
| mongy | once you run sudo update-grub in the newly booted xubuntu | 20:54 |
| Guest26049 | ok ill try it now | 20:54 |
| mongy | if all ese fails you can always use windows repair to repair. | 20:54 |
| mongy | ese=else. | 20:54 |
| xubuntu850 | Hello ?, I have a question ,.. | 20:56 |
| TheSheep | xubuntu850: shoot | 20:57 |
| xubuntu328 | HI | 20:58 |
| xubuntu850 | ok, I just installed xubuntu-12.04.1 on a very old computer, I did not get the settings for the screen correct,and am wondering if there is a way to change them after the install ? | 20:58 |
| xubuntu328 | Xubuntu 12.04.1 is very easy to use | 20:58 |
| TheSheep | xubuntu850: settings->display | 20:58 |
| eddi3x3 | I wasn't able to boot xubuntu | 20:58 |
| eddi3x3 | -_-' I got the black screen with grub> | 20:59 |
| eddi3x3 | so what's the grub command I need to execute to get xubuntu up and running | 21:00 |
| eddi3x3 | it's on /dev/sda6 if I remember correctly | 21:00 |
| xubuntu850 | Ok, So that is in the Settings > display,..thanks | 21:00 |
| mongy | eddi3x3, does fdisk report the active partition as sda6 ? | 21:00 |
| TheSheep | eddi3x3: how did you try to boot it? | 21:00 |
| mongy | marked with a * | 21:01 |
| eddi3x3 | I'm not in linux right now | 21:01 |
| eddi3x3 | I'm at the boot loader screen | 21:01 |
| eddi3x3 | grub> | 21:01 |
| eddi3x3 | that's all I get | 21:02 |
| TheSheep | eddi3x3: is that a usb pendrive? | 21:02 |
| eddi3x3 | nope | 21:02 |
| eddi3x3 | I took off the pendrive | 21:02 |
| TheSheep | eddi3x3: cd? | 21:02 |
| eddi3x3 | to boot into the hard drive | 21:02 |
| mongy | boot live again, and pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg and also sudo fdisk -l | 21:02 |
| TheSheep | do you have any message before the grub>? | 21:03 |
| eddi3x3 | not really, just a welcoming bootloader | 21:03 |
| mongy | TheSheep, he had bootloader install error after install, and I got him to run grub-install manually, without error... | 21:03 |
| mongy | TheSheep, so must be something small stopping it, like active partition or grub.cfg maybe | 21:04 |
| TheSheep | OK, sorry, I won't butt in | 21:04 |
| eddi3x3 | I well I ran the live CD and I clicked | 21:04 |
| eddi3x3 | "boot from first hard drive | 21:04 |
| eddi3x3 | looks like it found the xubuntu partition | 21:04 |
| eddi3x3 | I can ls and I see /dev /home /etc/ | 21:05 |
| eddi3x3 | all that good stuff | 21:05 |
| mongy | TheSheep, go ahead.. I've got to head out soon. | 21:05 |
| TheSheep | mongy: I have to go to bed | 21:05 |
| eddi3x3 | rebooting now o.o I hope I'm not left alone | 21:06 |
| mongy | eddi3x3, ok | 21:06 |
| eddi3x3 | im in liveCD now | 21:07 |
| mongy | Im not really a grub guy. I'm syslinux | 21:07 |
| mongy | eddi3x3, mount your root/boot partition then... | 21:07 |
| eddi3x3 | mount /boot? | 21:07 |
| mongy | pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg and output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda | 21:07 |
| mongy | eddi3x3, since you only have 1, it's root. sda6 | 21:08 |
| eddi3x3 | says cannot open /dev/sda | 21:08 |
| mongy | odd. | 21:09 |
| mongy | sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt | 21:09 |
| mongy | sudo fdisk -l | 21:09 |
| eddi3x3 | ok that worked | 21:10 |
| eddi3x3 | I got a star next to /dev/sda2 | 21:10 |
| mongy | ok sudo fdisk /dev/sda | 21:10 |
| mongy | I think it's 'a' to set bootable | 21:11 |
| eddi3x3 | ok | 21:11 |
| mongy | set it to the relevant xubuntu | 21:11 |
| eddi3x3 | now what? | 21:11 |
| mongy | 'w' to write | 21:11 |
| eddi3x3 | which partition? | 21:12 |
| eddi3x3 | sda6 | 21:12 |
| mongy | yes | 21:12 |
| mongy | I would have thought grub would have set it when installing.. hmm | 21:12 |
| eddi3x3 | then what? | 21:12 |
| eddi3x3 | type w? | 21:12 |
| mongy | can you paste your /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg | 21:12 |
| mongy | yes | 21:12 |
| mongy | w should write and exit disk | 21:12 |
| mongy | fdisk | 21:12 |
| eddi3x3 | ok | 21:13 |
| eddi3x3 | now I have 2 stars | 21:13 |
| eddi3x3 | one in sda2 and another in sda6 | 21:13 |
| mongy | ok, back into fdisk lol | 21:14 |
| mongy | 'a' to unset bootable from sda2 | 21:14 |
| mongy | 'w' | 21:14 |
| eddi3x3 | ok | 21:15 |
| eddi3x3 | now only /dev/sda6 has a star | 21:15 |
| eddi3x3 | /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg doesn't exist | 21:15 |
| mongy | can you paste your /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg | 21:15 |
| eddi3x3 | wait | 21:16 |
| eddi3x3 | yea | 21:16 |
| eddi3x3 | grub.cfg is no where to be found | 21:16 |
| eddi3x3 | but the directory is there in liveCD | 21:17 |
| eddi3x3 | well actually hard drive | 21:17 |
| eddi3x3 | since we mounted it to /mnt | 21:17 |
| mongy | hmm. | 21:17 |
| mongy | sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda again | 21:17 |
| mongy | ah.. I wonder if grub package is installed....... | 21:17 |
| eddi3x3 | installation finished | 21:18 |
| eddi3x3 | should I check if grub is installed or something? | 21:18 |
| mongy | is there a grub.cfg now? | 21:18 |
| eddi3x3 | still have no grub.cfg | 21:18 |
| mongy | sorry.. | 21:18 |
| mongy | erm... | 21:18 |
| mongy | there probably won't be until you update grub | 21:19 |
| mongy | right... try reboot see what happens. | 21:19 |
| eddi3x3 | so what do I have to do? | 21:19 |
| eddi3x3 | how do I update it? | 21:19 |
| eddi3x3 | okey dokey | 21:19 |
| eddi3x3 | reboot I shall | 21:19 |
| mongy | out of curious, what does your fstab say? | 21:20 |
| mongy | sorry, /mnt/etc/fstab | 21:20 |
| eddi3x3 | opps | 21:20 |
| eddi3x3 | I already rebooted | 21:20 |
| eddi3x3 | =-/ | 21:20 |
| eddi3x3 | I'm back to grub command line | 21:20 |
| mongy | back to livecd then | 21:21 |
| eddi3x3 | can't I just boot the kernel from here? | 21:21 |
| mongy | a chroot it is then.... | 21:21 |
| mongy | eddi3x3, maybe could, but I'm not really a grub, or even xubuntu guy.. I just hang around still from where I did. | 21:22 |
| eddi3x3 | well first I need to know where the kernel is | 21:22 |
| eddi3x3 | ok | 21:23 |
| eddi3x3 | liveCD it is | 21:23 |
| mongy | eddi3x3, this problem isn't strictly xubuntu, so you could ask in #ubuntu. | 21:24 |
| mongy | anyway... here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot | 21:25 |
| mongy | mount your partition and go from step 8 | 21:26 |
| mongy | you could apt-get install grub2 or is it grub-pc in ubuntu ( i dunno) to make sure it's installed properly at least.. then run install and update commands. | 21:26 |
| eddi3x3 | wait | 21:29 |
| eddi3x3 | what? | 21:29 |
| eddi3x3 | fstab only has 2 things | 21:30 |
| eddi3x3 | ext4 partition and swap | 21:30 |
| mongy | sounds right... point to sda6? | 21:30 |
| mongy | well, will point to UUID but will say 'was on sda6' | 21:31 |
| eddi3x3 | I don't see sda6 | 21:32 |
| eddi3x3 | anywhere | 21:32 |
| mongy | hmm | 21:35 |
| mongy | paste it | 21:35 |
| mongy | that could stop it booting if configured wrong. | 21:35 |
| mongy | well, it will, lol. | 21:35 |
| eddi3x3 | give me a second here | 21:38 |
| eddi3x3 | ok I am chrooted | 21:40 |
| mongy | I'm sorry dude, can you head into #ubuntu, I'm sure someone will have your back, it's a grub issue, not xubuntu... I have to head out. | 21:41 |
| eddi3x3 | grub-install --recheck /dev/sda gave me an error | 21:41 |
| eddi3x3 | gave me cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?) | 21:41 |
| mongy | is sda6 mounted? | 21:42 |
| mongy | did you do for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done | 21:42 |
| mongy | then sudo chroot /mnt | 21:42 |
| mongy | I see someone got this.. :) | 21:42 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| eduardo | how can I make a launcher for gnumeric so it launches a specific file when you click on it? | 22:22 |
| GridCube | eduardo, add a new custom launcher | 22:24 |
| GridCube | and put it like gnumeric /path/to/file | 22:24 |
| eduardo | but what if the directory has a space between names? | 22:27 |
| eduardo | like Google Drive | 22:27 |
| eduardo | it doesn't find that directory | 22:28 |
| knome | eduardo, gnumeric "/path/to/file with spaces" | 22:28 |
| eduardo | Google_Drive doesn't work either | 22:28 |
| eduardo | for example | 22:28 |
| eduardo | gnumeric %U /media/Vista64/Users/Eduardo/Google Drive/LIMO RESERVATIONS | 22:29 |
| erkan^ | ubottu, | 22:29 |
| eduardo | doesn't work | 22:29 |
| erkan^ | !ubottu Quarel | 22:29 |
| GridCube | quarel? | 22:29 |
| GridCube | !info quarel | 22:29 |
| ubottu | Package quarel does not exist in precise | 22:29 |
| eduardo | it thinks it's 2 different directories | 22:29 |
| GridCube | eduardo, you are trying to pass an empty space | 22:29 |
| erkan^ | oesp | 22:30 |
| erkan^ | !ubottu quantal | 22:30 |
| GridCube | use "" to encapsulate the path or use /Google\ Drive/ | 22:30 |
| GridCube | !quantal | 22:30 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1 | 22:30 |
| GridCube | eduardo, also check that all directories have the proper cases, maybe its not "Users" but "users" those are two different directories | 22:32 |
| eduardo | this is what I have | 22:33 |
| eduardo | gnumeric /media/Vista64/Users/Eduardo/Google\ Drive/LIMO\ RESERVATIONS.xls | 22:33 |
| eduardo | and it won't recognize it | 22:33 |
| eduardo | gnumeric /media/Vista64/Users/Eduardo/Google\ Drive/LIMO\ RESERVATIONS says unsupported format | 22:34 |
| eduardo | but if I open it in gnumeric, it works just fine | 22:34 |
| eduardo | this is the full path | 22:34 |
| GridCube | make a shortcut to the desktop, dragand drop the file to the desktop with the right clic, create a link | 22:35 |
| GridCube | drag the link to the panel | 22:35 |
| eduardo | what? | 22:36 |
| GridCube | no i tried that and it didnt work | 22:37 |
| eduardo | i know right? | 22:38 |
| GridCube | eduardo, this works, right clic the file you want to open, go to send to: and create a link on the desktop | 22:39 |
| eduardo | i did that | 22:39 |
| GridCube | move the shortcut to your home | 22:39 |
| eduardo | and it didn't work either | 22:39 |
| eduardo | wait create a link to desktop, like my linux desktop | 22:39 |
| eduardo | and THEN move it to home | 22:39 |
| eduardo | and then back to desktop? | 22:39 |
| xubuntu205 | hi | 22:40 |
| xubuntu205 | I installed xubuntu 12.04 with encrypted home | 22:41 |
| GridCube | and create a launcher that calls it, like "gnumeric /home/name/link.xls" | 22:41 |
| GridCube | it will open the symlink | 22:41 |
| GridCube | but that will point to the original file anyway | 22:41 |
| xubuntu205 | if I login as guest the desktop load immediately but if I use my profile I must wait 90 seconds unitl the desktop is loading | 22:43 |
| GridCube | thats the encryption i would guess | 22:44 |
| xubuntu205 | it is a core2duo 2Ghz | 22:44 |
| xubuntu205 | why does it take so long? | 22:45 |
| xubuntu205 | could I fix that, without deactivating encryption? | 22:45 |
| eduardo | got it working | 22:46 |
| eduardo | thanks | 22:46 |
| Tsavo | SSH into a fresh install of Xubuntu (12.04.1) suddenly having the Connection closed. -v flag reveals: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1213903/ usual fixes involving /etc/hosts aren't working | 22:49 |
| Tsavo | oops sorry | 22:49 |
| xubuntu205 | does anyone know something I can try? is this an xfce problem? | 23:06 |
| xubuntu205 | hm... | 23:23 |
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