=== metzthepest is now known as metasansana [02:14] ah ha! [03:12] http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ [03:12] someone pls take a look [03:20] i am having terrible time with ubuntu [03:20] or rather broadcom wireless on ubuntu [03:22] sry no wireless here [03:23] hmm [03:23] uhh 'here' as in @ my box :s [03:27] got it [03:27] thats okay...109 people in room :) [03:27] sorry 108 who might have wirell [03:28] wireless* [03:28] where are you from.? what time is it there.. its a lovely morning here [03:29] it's gonna be morning in belgrade real soon hehe [03:30] thats good [03:31] whats new [03:31] why do use *buntu [03:32] i'm still exploring it, but 12.04 is the first distro that installed with no problems and did what i needed + the firewall :) [03:33] ok.. [03:33] NO problems is good thing [03:33] welll btw, if you can let me know [03:33] where can i downlaod package to install vlc [03:33] i ran fedora for a long time (long ago) and got (very) fed up with it :s [03:34] i have this link http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=vlc [03:34] but you know i dont have info on diff versions of *buntu [03:34] fed up..? [03:35] yea pretty much sick of it [03:35] =) [03:35] i use GNU Linux, i built it from core [03:35] vlc is in the software center, but you can get it @ http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html [03:35] oic hm [03:36] firstly i dont have internet on my linux box, if i have to do i need to download from my other windows system and install [03:38] not sure for custom builds, but you could try a repo like https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/master-daily [03:38] (except idk what the stable one is) [03:39] ok thanks [03:39] i have this parole [03:39] it does require lot of codecs decoders [03:39] cant find one [03:40] there is no one place to get them [03:40] yeah it sucks :) [03:40] so i decided to for vlc [03:40] audacious and vlc are like the first things i install [03:43] oh well [03:43] custom building vlc is ugly [03:44] how abt audacious is there any neat manual download install [03:44] not sure :S [04:33] i dint get nay help here [04:33] but havent lost hope [04:33] asking one more Q [04:33] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xubuntu-restricted-extras [04:34] i ahve got latest xubuntu installed , which one to install from the list in the link to play mp3 files? [04:34] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xubuntu-restricted-extras === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [05:54] this chaneel is dead [05:54] http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ [06:33] hi guys, i have a problem with changing my keyboard layouts, i set "Change Keyboard layout" to Ctrl+shift in panel applet, and it works, but after i reboot my machine, it switches back to Alt+Shift... How can i make it remember my shortcut ? [09:15] hello [09:15] hullo === xubuntu854 is now known as AlexxC [09:17] hi guys, i have a problem with changing my keyboard layouts, i set "Change Keyboard layout" to Ctrl+shift in panel applet, and it works, but after i reboot my machine, it switches back to Alt+Shift... How can i make it remember my shortcut ? [09:41] hi guys, xdfe puts the file names on my desktop in a little rounded corner block... how can I switch that off? [09:41] wcapio: what is xdfe? [09:42] xubuntu desktop manager, not? owww i mean xfce [09:42] :| sry [09:42] :P [09:43] do you guys know what I mean or should I rephrase? [09:55] wcapio: https://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/howto-remove-the-borders-of-your-desktop-icon-text/ [10:01] tnx [10:01] does xubuntu 12.04 have gtk2, though? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [12:14] is it possible to install and use "yum" instead of apt-get ? [12:15] hi people , having issues getting VBoxClient to run at startup, where would be best to start ? [12:18] XATRIX: I don't think so, probably break loads of things. the packet manager would be a core app [12:23] XATRIX: why would you want to change it? [12:24] @ dr_willis sent a PM [12:29] recon_tv, just familliar to yum [12:29] was curious is is possible to use it [12:30] XATRIX: well it's pretty easy to use apt-get, if you have questions just ask here :) [12:34] markky_boi: have a look at http://www.linuxhomeserverguide.com/server-config/phpVirtualBox.php , but since you dont know how to wait I guess you'll miss this lol [12:36] XATRIX: just remember that apt-get is .deb based and yun is .rpm based , they dont mix [13:38] I'm not able to get to my login screen [13:38] good thing I know about irssi [13:39] so, you can login just fine then... what about starting x from the command line? do you get any errors? [13:39] I'd copy my boot screen but I have no idea how [13:39] it does fail on one of them [13:39] don't know how to start x [13:39] and I thought it was called xorg [13:40] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/startx.1.html [13:41] how do you load a webpage without a gui? [13:41] but no it does not boot properly [13:41] jrmy: just type startx on the commandline [13:41] jrmy: well, you could do it in a curses web browser.. but you could also ask 'how do i start x' and i would say .. type startx [13:42] it trys and goes to tty1.. instead of the login screen [13:42] you'll be interested in the errors after you type "startx" and hit enter [13:42] jrmy have you changed anything recently, did it work before? [13:43] i usually try booting the last kernel that worked well, if this is after a system upgrade [13:43] yep, was a kernel update yesterday [13:44] that made me freeze [13:45] but yes it would appear that it isn'r working [13:45] jrmy: startx? or the earlier kernel? [13:45] I think the time I restarted my computer mid boot 'cause the problem [13:45] jrmy: it being, startx to start the gui isnt working? [13:45] this is what is crashing [13:46] caused* [13:46] yes x is crashing for some reason [13:46] jrmy: I would be surprised if stopping a boot would cause these problems [13:46] kind of a noob here... [13:46] jrmy: I take it you could log in yesterday? [13:46] I hit my restart button on my case [13:46] hard reset* [13:47] i would do an fsck if i thought forcing rebooting had damaged the filesystem [13:47] last time wa the last time I could login no prob [13:47] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1980351 suggests sudo touch /forcefsck to get fsck on reboot [13:47] jrmy: did you install updates ? [13:47] yeah recently [13:48] jrmy: do you know if you use property video drivers? [13:48] yes [13:48] which work [13:48] an upgrade could have broken that... and you could try the last kerne easy enough jrmy [13:48] jrmy: I guess that new kernel + property video driver = broken login [13:48] perhaps [13:49] i would just boot the last kernel and confirm that in a few seconds [13:49] but without a real diagnostic we won't know what the problem is [13:49] how do I do this anyways? [13:49] jrmy: that would be quite diagnostic.. reboot with the older kernel.. if it boots, you know its likely the kernel upgrade [13:49] jrmy: this? boot the older kernel? [13:50] I did have the problem before hand though [13:50] but I leave my computer on almost all the time [13:50] so.. I do what now? [13:51] jrmy: before what? [13:51] I also have a dual boot setup with windows 7 [13:51] what key gets the boot menu up? [13:51] jrmy: i would boot the older kernel [13:51] is it in the boot menu? [13:51] jrmy: it being the kernel? [13:52] I hope we both assume we're talking about the same thing, that being the kernel [13:52] jrmy: i would like to assume nothing [13:52] jrmy: i want to test and know waht "it" is.. [13:53] the grub menu will show the kernels.. you will see the older ones under the "previous" entry listed there [13:53] then "it" is nothing based on that statement as I'm only referring to what you might be talking about [13:53] you should see the lates kernel.. and the recovery version under that.. then, right under that you'll see "previous" [13:53] you'll find the last kernel that worked there [13:53] ok [13:54] brb [13:54] jrmy: any if it does work, change back to the standard drivers [13:58] guess the new kernel is incompatible [13:58] jrmy: switch back to the standard video drivers would be a start [13:59] jrmy: I assume you got to login with the older kernel [13:59] yes [13:59] how do I use default drivers? [13:59] not that I want to... [14:00] I much rather need them to play minecraft [14:01] jrmy: Menu-> settings -> additional drivers [14:01] hah, ya know, if I knew how to revert to the old drivers I could of saved reinstalling my os all those times [14:02] is there perhaps updated drivers or does it always update? [14:03] I know amd updates ccc everynow and then [14:03] well catalyst rather [14:03] jrmy: maybe, I'd set it to the standard ones first and try reboot just to make sure they are working, if that works you could try the property drives again [14:04] not sure if you're typoing or not [14:04] propietary [14:04] :-[ [14:05] but anyways, I'll try removing the drivers booting with the updated kernel and reinstalling the drivers [14:05] is there a way to remove them from the shell? [14:05] I'd rather not reinstall again.. that's just idiotic [14:06] jrmy: one step at a time [14:07] sorry I just find all the bs I have to go through with linux and trying to fix it all a little overwhelming [14:07] I'd rather have more knowledge [14:07] jrmy: it's the same with all computers :) [14:07] I'm much more accustomed to windows [14:07] easy street there [14:08] well brb [14:13] ok so propietary drivers are a no go from this current look out [14:14] but then again.. maybe it could be something else [14:14] o well, how is mine craft doing in the open drivers? [14:14] I hardly feel it worth not using my 1GB video card [14:14] all of* [14:15] lets see [14:16] jrmy: the problem is with the video card producers, if they cared a little more about their uses the drivers would work on all systems [14:16] users* [14:18] just keep that in you mind next time you buy a computer :) [14:18] for one it won't even let me play in fullscreen [14:18] nor can I use the resoultion 720p [14:18] buy... or build [14:19] I bought amd based parts [14:19] haven't checked the fps though [14:19] jrmy: what video card you got? probably just have to file a bug report and watch it being ignored by amd [14:20] HD 5770 [14:21] yeah I get half fps without the drivers [14:21] I'd rather play on windows again at this point [14:21] sucks I didn;t grow up with linux [14:21] I would of much rather [14:22] when did you last update your drivers, seems the last Catalyst release was 8/15/2012 [14:23] heck if I know [14:23] probably a few months ago [14:23] maybe half a year back? [14:23] I set up a dual boot.. and didn't really do anythign with my distro [14:24] thought I'd give linux another go. got bored with it.. and I decided to come back as the only game I was playing any more was minecraft. so I figured what was the point of using windows? [14:25] but, once again I get problems left and right [14:25] jrmy: so what OS do you want to use? [14:25] seems whenever I want to customize things I get problems.. idk mayeb xubuntu isn't the distro for me [14:25] linux [14:26] I'm tired of windows.. [14:26] jrmy: well, when you go custom the learning starts :) the price of freedom [14:27] I just preferred xubuntu because I like using the shell and xfce's shell looks cooler [14:27] more customizable too [14:27] or at least it is on xubuntu [14:27] that and I like the look and feel over gnome [14:28] but road blocks show up as the manpages for ubuntu don't always help me with xubuntu.. I assume it's the enviroment difference [14:28] jrmy: well the video card problems would have hit in any distro [14:28] or whatever xfce and gnome are called [14:29] about all I knw with the shell is a little bit on looking at directories, apt-get commands like install, update and upgrade, and how to use nano and irssi [14:29] 'bout it [14:30] well I found out how to play nethack with telnet.. but yeah [14:30] guys, how can i make my set my keyboard layout switch shortcut to ctrl+shift ? [14:31] I think i'll try activating the drivers again.. and if it doesn't work again I'll repeat the last steps up till now.. bbl [14:32] every time i have to set it up to ctrl+shift again [14:33] it automatically set to Alt+shift [14:35] XATRIX: probably in setting manager somewhere, knowing that it's Alt+Shift as default helps, how do you change it ? [14:39] i'm changing via "Keyboard layouts" applet on my XFCE Panel [14:40] But it always reverts to default (Alt+shift) after i restart [14:43] XATRIX: have you opened the "keyboard input method" in "system settings", did it install the ibus deamon [14:44] if I wanted to use an older kernel what would be the down sides? [14:44] jrmy: I'd suggest try installing the latested driver, and checking the does to see if it works with kernel 3.20-31 [14:44] installing*/downloading [14:45] jrmy: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx [14:45] yes it wants to [14:45] but not installed yet [14:45] XATRIX: so let it [14:46] a link isn't very useful atm.. I'm currently in the test of the new kernel with the propietary drivers.. which it did not work [14:46] XATRIX: actually I just guessing here, but I think this is the answer [14:46] Firefox is soo slow in my computer. X takes a lot of CPU in normal use. [14:47] jrmy: well you'll have to use the standard driver till you find a update that works [14:47] In 11.04 chromium used to work fast, but in later releases it keeps crashing. [14:48] jrmy: so check what version of catalyst you got now again the latest version [14:48] What is wrong? Is my hardware unsupported? [14:49] against* [14:49] Hello, can someone tell me where I can find configuration files for Xubuntu-desktop ? The program associated with hyperlinks is wrong and I want to change it. Thank you. [14:50] XATRIX: did that help any? [14:50] recon_tv: how do I check with a command? [14:52] jrmy: I don't have any property drivers so can't really guide you, i'd expect it to be shown in "addition drivers" [14:53] I don't have a gui to use atm === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [14:53] jrmy: it'd be quicker for you to boot back into last know kernel, switch to open driver and reboot [14:54] recon_tv, no idea... it just started a new tray icon, i put a setting to , maybe next time i reboot i will see it [14:55] XATRIX: sure, wont know till you reboot, but I have hi hopes :) [14:55] high* [14:56] ) [14:57] xubuntu239: have a look for xubuntu-default-settings , probably a hidden file in you home dir [15:00] recon_tv: Ok, I will look at files of this package. [15:01] xubuntu239: it's not a package, it's a setting file on you harddrive [15:01] jarnos: what hardware are you using, ubuntu version ect [15:03] afk of a bit. :) [15:03] recon_tv, 12.04 (upgraded from 11.10), Some AMD Athlon XP CPU, VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 420] (rev a3) [15:06] recon_tv: I have a package with that name installed, but no file... [15:09] xubuntu239: App Menu>Settings>Preferred Settings [15:09] er...Preferred Applications...sorry [15:10] http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ [15:11] can someone have sol for my wireless problem [15:12] everything seems ok , but no wlan0 device on ifconfig [15:12] http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ [15:13] drc: The problme is that I have a lot of bad stuff in the list proposed in Settings>Preferred Settings and I want to edit this list. But I don't know where it is stored. [15:15] xubuntu239: " I have a lot of bad stuff in the list...." There are only 4 items there, what's the problem? [15:17] drc: I have add more items and several have the same name, it is a big mess. I just want to clean up and keep the good one. [15:20] xubuntu239: in file manager, go into the view menu as check "show hidden files" then open your home folder and look in .config [15:20] xubuntu239: Take a look at ~/.config/xfce4/helpers.rc [15:21] found my hat and am off for my walk, good luck , bbl [15:26] recon_tv, just did reboot, seems like it's working ;) thanks [15:28] ok so I installed the latest drivers from amd's website using a guide I googled [15:28] which is fine but I really don't know much about the commands [15:28] and it works with the current kernel [15:29] I howeever don't even know how to access the control center as an administrator.. just clicking it in the menuy don't work.. and apparently amdcccle isn't the command [15:29] I noticed this sh command which I might want to know more about but whatever [15:29] anyways.. prob solved.. thanks for the help [15:30] hi, thunar 1.2.3 (xubuntu 12.04) does not show any files from my home dir: »/home/bricot/.gvfs«: socket not connected. What's wrong? [15:34] http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ [15:39] http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ [15:39] http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ [15:39] http://pastebin.com/PZrg0AvZ [15:39] ramprasadgk, stop repeating [15:40] i read soemwhere world's most active open source irc is *ubuntu [15:40] this channel sucks [15:41] !attitude | ramprasadgk [15:41] ramprasadgk: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [15:43] yes, ofcourse, i ahve been waiting since 3 days for workable soln [15:43] this is not the same as perlmonks.org [15:43] where i almost get reply instantly i provide soln too [15:44] yes, but solutions aren't always available even if you waited three weeks [15:44] oh yeah than *ubuntu skz [15:44] ramprasadgk, (x)ubuntu is not perl [15:44] ramprasadgk, fix your attitude or i'll have to remove you from the channel [15:45] oh yeah.. doent matter [15:45] doesn't* [15:45] irc isn't the only method to get help, see: http://xubuntu.org/help/ [15:45] very well, noted. [15:46] i have queried on all forums [15:46] but no reply [15:54] My problem seems to be the same as in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/754618 [15:54] Launchpad bug 754618 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Failed to open encrypted home directory" [Medium,Confirmed] [15:55] Are there any workarounds? [15:57] salut [15:59] hello [15:59] !hi | xubuntu159 [15:59] xubuntu159: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [16:07] bricot: have you considered using nautilus till the bug gets fixed? [16:13] Yes I do. I'm also successful to do: sudo umount /home/bricot/.gvfs [16:14] But the problem is not all my users are able to do that. [16:16] This bug seems to be over a year old. That's why I'm asking for a better workaround, or better, a solution for maybe 12.10. [16:20] bricot: I hear you, but the bug only just got confirmed status. bit passed me though. I was wary of encrypted home folders even given my high level of paranoia :) [16:20] bricot: car you reproduce it ? [16:20] car/can* [16:23] All I can say at the moment is that it happens from time to time. So my answer is no unfortunately. I'm not sure what triggers this issue. [16:24] bricot: try logout and back in again, no reboot [16:25] That didn't help, but unmounting did (following the bug report). I just had to restart Thunar to see my home directory. [16:26] bricot: I want to see if we can produce the bug on demand, only way a fix is likely if we can reproduce the bug on demand [16:26] recon_tv: I agree. [16:30] bricot: the trigger described is to logout to gdm and back in again, does that reproduce the bug? [16:32] recon_tv: I'll leave know and try it out. Unfortunately I'm a Ubuntu convert and switched back to lightdm, because I don't like gdm. But I have another netbook with gdm in place. I'll be back soon. [16:33] bricot: well, just try it on the system that you having the issue on, I only said gdm because thats what the report said [16:43] recon_tv: I can reproduce that bug: every *second* login on that machine with the encrypted home (lightdm, 64-bit). My netbook does not show this bug (Plain Xubuntu with gdm, no encrypted home, 32-bit). Both 12.04. [16:44] bricot: on the machine you can reproduce it on, is the home dir on a different partition to the root [16:45] recon_tv: no. [16:48] bricot: well, now that you can reproduce it I suggest you add your findings to the bug report with all the software and version numbers etc , then try get some interest from the ubuntu+1 and xubuntu+1 channels. [16:49] recon_tv: ok, I'll try. [16:49] bricot: sorry but this is as far as my knowledge can get us :) [16:50] recon_tv: thanks anyway! [17:11] haha... så ProjectX, nettopp. Måtte se den etter episoden i nederland. Dette må prøves! Noe som har ett hus og låne bort? =) [17:12] obs. wrong place [17:14] snikendei: lol :P [19:06] Two fold question, please: I know how to install fonts to Gimp. What I don't know is where the gazillion and half system (?) fonts that show up on my Gimp font list came from or how to go about safely removing them; if not from the system at least from my list of fonts in Gimp. I don't want to have to scroll through a few hundred fonts I don't want in order to get to the ones I do. Any suggestions? Thanks! [19:08] Gimpette, it should be safe to remove if you don't need them, eg. if they're not used in the interface, or you don't need other than western/korean/etc fonts [19:09] Is there a way that I can just remove them from the Gimp list so that I don't risk screwing something up system-wise? [19:10] I didn't add any of them myself so I am assuming some interface or something somewhere must want them for them to have gotten on my machine in the first place. [19:10] hmm, i'm not sure - i afraif not [19:11] nope, xubuntu has quite a lot of fonts installed by default for convenience for non-western users [19:13] Do you know of a list anywhere that specifically states which fonts are safe to remove and which aren't? I know you mentioned some, but I don't know which fonts are used in interfaces and which aren't. [19:22] Gimpette, see apps -> settings -> settings manager -> appearance -> tab fonts [19:23] and ... settings manager -> window manager -> tab style (title font) [19:23] those are the ones you don't want to remove [19:23] afaik others are safe to remove [19:24] well, you probably don't want to remove all serif fonts, all monospace fonts etc..., but there's no reason why you couldn't remove any [19:24] and if something seems to break, you can always revert and reintroduce the fonts you need [19:37] Ok, those are set to sans and sans bold respectively. There is a font manager somewhere for easy removal, isn't there? [19:39] no, at least not installed by default [19:39] oh, and you don't want to remove the default terminal font either. [19:42] Ok, thanks much for the help. I see that I previously installed Fontmatrix but it looked rather too complicated for the time I had available to devote to figuring it out so I just left it. I guess I'll just have to knuckle down and look at it again. Thanks. [19:42] Where can I find out which font is the default for the terminal, do you know? [19:57] Gimpette: we use Ubuntu Mono, coz renders zero and O differently [20:03] @Marzata: Thanks, I'm fine with how everything is rendering now; I'd just like to take out the fonts I won't use in design projects without breaking anything. Looking into a different font manager now. This shouldn't be this complicated, I wonder why there isn't a simple one for idiots installed by default. :) [20:07] Marzata, who we? [20:08] Gimpette, right-click terminal -> preferences -> tab appearance to check out the terminal font you are using [20:10] I don't have a preferences option when right clicking; only properties and tab appearance isn't there. Maybe I'm not in the right place. Will look some more. [20:10] Gimpette, are you using xfce4-terminal? [20:10] Hey, I try to change my full name in Users and Groups under System and it does not change at all [20:10] Found it! Thanks! [20:10] Gimpette, np [20:12] Have been trying out Font Manager and it appears to easily allow for reactivation so I'm going to try clearing that font list out some; thanks again! [20:17] Fixed it, ran sudo usermod -c "NAME IN THE QUOTES" username [20:34] I'm trying to install Xubuntu with a LiveCD but it keeps failing to install the bootloader... [20:35] I thought /dev/sda would be it [20:35] /dev/sda2 is windows vista loader...if that's relevant [20:40] hello? [20:40] Hello , I have a question concerning xubuntu-12.04.1, which I just installed, [20:41] I cannot install the bootloader, can anybody help? [20:42] Guest26049, what errors do you get. and /dev/sda is correct. [20:43] I have a screenshot [20:43] how can I send it? [20:44] The video,settings, when I installed it, it said it could not find the video type, and I was not sure what type I had, or to select. Is there a way to change this after the install, ? If so how.? [20:44] that will show you what I'm looking at [20:44] no dcc here. use imgur or sometihng. [20:45] here [20:45] http://imgur.com/RM0XI,IRORD,KISLm [20:46] are you booted into the livecd now [20:46] yes [20:48] mount your xubuntu partition.. sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt [20:49] ok now what? do I run the install Xubuntu again? [20:49] sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda [20:50] says installation finished. No error reported [20:50] should I be good to go? [20:51] hmm, ok try it. [20:51] run sudo update-grub once you booted into it, if it works. [20:52] into what? [20:52] linux? [20:53] or do I run it now? [20:53] in liveCD [20:53] sorry, yes, reboot and it 'should' load xubuntu by default. [20:54] ok but I'm dual booting, would I be able to boot into windows as well? [20:54] once you run sudo update-grub in the newly booted xubuntu [20:54] ok ill try it now [20:54] if all ese fails you can always use windows repair to repair. [20:54] ese=else. [20:56] Hello ?, I have a question ,.. [20:57] xubuntu850: shoot [20:58] HI [20:58] ok, I just installed xubuntu-12.04.1 on a very old computer, I did not get the settings for the screen correct,and am wondering if there is a way to change them after the install ? [20:58] Xubuntu 12.04.1 is very easy to use [20:58] xubuntu850: settings->display [20:58] I wasn't able to boot xubuntu [20:59] -_-' I got the black screen with grub> [21:00] so what's the grub command I need to execute to get xubuntu up and running [21:00] it's on /dev/sda6 if I remember correctly [21:00] Ok, So that is in the Settings > display,..thanks [21:00] eddi3x3, does fdisk report the active partition as sda6 ? [21:00] eddi3x3: how did you try to boot it? [21:01] marked with a * [21:01]