[00:22] <baltazar> hi :)
[00:23] <baltazar> somebody can help me please ?
[00:23] <baltazar> i have some trouble with my kubuntu resolution
[00:23] <baltazar> instead of 1366x768 i have a 1024x860
[03:14] <GH0> What does amp do in a bash script? Similar to one like this: [ ! -d $ZONEROOT ] &amp;&amp; /bin/mkdir -p $ZONEROOT
[03:15] <GH0> I have been looking at iptables scripts that block an IP by country using zones, but this one keeps having issues at the &amp;&amp
[03:17] <GH0> The entire script can be found here: http://www.linuxstall.com/block-country-iptables/
[03:20] <OerHeks> GH0, &amp; is printed as &
[03:21] <OerHeks> ampersant
[03:22] <OerHeks> and && is the connection for 2 commands on 1 line
[03:23] <GH0> Okay. What would I need to to do fix the script then? Because right now, it is doing this: Documents/scripts/block_country.sh: 31: Documents/scripts/block_country.sh: Syntax error: "&" unexpected
[03:24] <GH0> If I remove the &'s I get this: http://pastebin.com/YifEyiPr
[03:24] <GH0> Or, is there a better way to go about blocking ip's by country ranges?
[04:07] <I-Like-kubuntu12> evening all... any night owls on?
[04:07] <I-Like-kubuntu12> or day owls?
[04:08] <I-Like-kubuntu12> anyone know how to get gcc/g++ 4.7 on kubuntu 12.04?
[04:10] <I-Like-kubuntu12> ??
[07:59] <netrick> how can i set taskbar to be non transparent?
[08:07] <qw_> hello all
[08:08] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:09] <qw[russian]> how are you?
[08:09] <lordievader> Hey qw[russian], I'm doing good, just woke up. Gotta make some tea. How are you?
[08:11] <qw[russian]> Thank you that asked me now only arrived in university (correspondence department) at present I gather to shop
[08:56] <qw[russian]> help me install wine
[08:57] <lordievader> qw[russian]: sudo apt-get install wine
[09:02] <qw[russian]> thank you
[09:03] <lordievader> qw[russian]: No problem.
[09:04] <qw[russian]> but
[09:05] <qw[russian]> i not have install mIRC.exe
[09:06] <lordievader> qw[russian]: mIRC is windows, why not use a linux irc client?
[09:06] <qw[russian]> becose i like pIRC =)
[09:07] <lordievader> qw[russian]: Hmm oh well. Open the installer with wine. Any further I cannot be of help since I do not know the client nor do I use Wine a lot.
[09:10] <qw[russian]> (
[09:13] <qw[RU]> kvirc is a have linux client ?
[09:13] <bazhang> !info kvirc | qw[RU]
[09:25] <qw[RU]> after install i am not search kvirc
[09:27] <lordievader> qw[RU]: What?
[09:27] <qw[RU]> hmm
[09:27] <qw[RU]> i am install kvirc
[09:27] <qw[RU]> but i am not see kvirc
[09:27] <lordievader> qw[RU]: Yes you are installing kvirc?
[09:28] <lordievader> qw[RU]: It is done installing?
[09:28] <qw[RU]> yes
[09:29] <lordievader> qw[RU]: It could be either in the menu under Internet, or it is a cli app. Try alt+f2 and search for it.
[09:30] <qw[RU]> after alt+f2 and i am write kvirc i am see only install packet
[09:31] <qw[RU]> maybe reinstall help me ?
[09:31] <lordievader> qw[RU]: Did you really install it? Did you issue "sudo apt-get install kvirc"?
[09:32] <qw[RU]> no
[09:32] <qw[RU]> i install click
[09:32] <qw[RU]> about install packet
[09:32] <k0s> hi all
[09:32] <qw[RU]> i am not write command
[09:33] <qw[RU]> i am see message kvirc-data was installed
[09:33] <lordievader> qw[RU]: It seems to me that you haven't installed it, or that it is still running the installer.
[09:34] <qw[RU]> i write this "sudo apt-get install kvirc" but i see error
[09:35] <lordievader> qw[RU]: What error?
[09:36] <qw[RU]> http://pastebin.com/6UzqtxP9
[09:36] <qw[RU]> see
[09:38] <lordievader> qw[RU]: You have broken packages.
[09:38] <qw[RU]> what ?
[09:39] <lordievader> qw[RU]: Try running: sudo apt-get install -f
[09:40] <qw[RU]> and ?
[09:40] <qw[RU]> 0 0 0 456 didn't upgrade
[09:40] <lordievader> qw[RU]: After you have done so try installing kvirs again, using apt-get and see if you still get the error of broken packages.
[09:41] <qw[RU]> hmm
[09:42] <qw[RU]> yes
[09:42] <qw[RU]> i see
[09:46] <qw[RU]> (
[10:22] <qw[RU]> фтв
[10:22] <qw[RU]> sorry
[10:22] <qw[RU]> and who help me ?
[10:23] <lordievader> qw[RU]: What is your problem?
[10:23] <qw[RU]> kvirc
[10:23] <lordievader> qw[RU]: Apt-get still gets an error?
[10:24] <qw[RU]> yes
[10:25] <lordievader> qw[RU]: Read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=8a9e0443dc1873c1abb60d6629fb8d3c&p=5962046&postcount=9
[10:26] <qw[RU]> ыещз
[10:26] <qw[RU]> stop
[10:26] <lordievader> qw[RU]: What's wrong?
[10:27] <qw[RU]> i am use apt-get and "apt-get" not have error becouse i install wine good
[10:27] <lordievader> qw[RU]: What?
[10:28] <qw[RU]> i am install wine (sudo apt-get wine) and wine install good
[10:28] <lordievader> qw[RU]: Yes?
[10:29] <qw[RU]> yes
[10:29] <qw[RU]> but
[10:29] <qw[RU]> were i install kvirc do you see problem
[10:30] <lordievader> qw[RU]: From what you showed me earlier you can conclude that you have broken packages, you first need to fix that. Else you can not install anything.
[10:31] <lordievader> qw[RU]: And so I said read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=8a9e0443dc1873c1abb60d6629fb8d3c&p=5962046&postcount=9
[10:33] <qw[RU]> that is I should make everything as is described at a forum?
[10:34] <lordievader> qw[RU]: Yes you should do what Gazneth says.
[10:34] <lordievader> qw[RU]: Except for the last step though.
[10:36] <qw[RU]> done
[10:37] <qw[RU]> everything except for the last
[10:38] <lordievader> qw[RU]: Allright now try to install kvirc again and see if apt-get still complains about broken packages.
[10:39] <qw[RU]> please command install kvirc )
[10:39] <lordievader> qw[RU]: You should know that by now.
[10:41] <qw[RU]> sudo apt-get install kvirc
[10:41] <qw[RU]> ,
[10:41] <qw[RU]> ?
[10:41] <lordievader> qw[RU]: Exactly.
[10:41] <qw[RU]> nothing (
[10:42] <lordievader> qw[RU]: What do you mean nothing?
[10:42] <qw[RU]> in total on former not that didn't change
[10:43] <lordievader> qw[RU]: ?
[10:43] <qw[RU]> http://pastebin.com/6UzqtxP9
[10:44] <lordievader> qw[RU]: So you still have broken packages.
[10:45] <qw[RU]> нуы
[10:45] <lordievader> qw[RU]: Run this again: sudo apt-get install -f
[10:45] <qw[RU]> yes
[10:45] <qw[RU]> done
[10:47] <lordievader> qw[RU]: And are there still broken packages?
[10:47] <qw[RU]> http://pastebin.com/VyxzbzU6
[10:49] <lordievader> qw[RU]: qw[RU] Perhaps it is time to upgrade those packages, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:50] <qw[RU]> okey upgrade now
[11:10] <qw[RU]> lordievader how long time upgrade ?
[11:11] <lordievader> qw[RU]: No idea, I guess you know that beter that I do.
[11:12] <qw[RU]> ?
[11:19] <qw[RU]> lordievader upgrade. reboot ?
[11:23] <qw_> i am reboot
[11:25] <qw[RU]> lordievader
[11:25] <qw[RU]> nothing (
[11:31] <qw[RU]> YES
[11:31] <qw[RU]> i am install =)
[11:33] <qw[Russian]> very good
[11:33] <qw[Russian]> =)
[11:33] <qw[RU]> =)
[11:35] <lordievader> qw[RU]: I'm sorry I was afk, how is it standing?
[11:36] <qw[Russian]> i am install kvirc
[11:37] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: You are installing kvirc?
[11:37] <qw[Russian]> yes
[11:37] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: Ok, no broken packages anymore?
[11:37] <qw[Russian]> but
[11:38] <qw[Russian]> this error is present
[11:40] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: What error is present? The same one about broken packages?
[11:40] <qw[Russian]> yes
[11:40] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: Have you installed any ppa's?
[11:41] <qw[Russian]> i am upgrade system
[11:41] <qw[Russian]> and system Applic. install kvirc
[11:42] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: You are not making any sense, you cannot be an upgrade system. Do you mean you have upgraded the system? However that was not my question, have you installed any ppa's?
[11:43] <qw[Russian]> i am upgrade "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in console and auto install after finish i am reboot
[11:44] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: Can you answer my question please?
[11:45] <qw[Russian]> maybe
[11:45] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: And those ppa's you have added were for 10.04? (If you are still running 10.04)
[11:46] <qw[Russian]> Description:    Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[11:46] <qw[Russian]>  
[11:48] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: Again you are not answering my quesion.
[11:48] <qw[Russian]> maybe install any ppa's
[11:49] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: My question was: are those ppa's for 10.04? And not for 10.10, 11.04, 11.10 or 12.04.
[11:50] <qw[Russian]> in upgrade distr any ppa's was install
[11:50] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: What?
[11:51] <qw[Russian]> hmm
[11:51] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: Isn't anyone in #kubuntu-ru? I think it will be easier for both if you ask there.
[11:51] <qw[Russian]> when updating a distribution kit any packages were updated and established
[11:52] <qw[Russian]> i am banned from kubuntu-ru
[11:53] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: How did you pull that off?
[11:55] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: Wait a minute... You were trying to install kvirc right? But you are using it at the moment, no?
[11:57] <qw[Russian]> now i am use kvirc
[11:59] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: So what were you trying to do? Btw I
[11:59] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: I'm still curious to know how you got banned.
[12:00] <qw[Russian]> maybe at will of one of operators
[12:01] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: Hardly think so. Anyhow what were you trying to accomplish?
[12:02] <qw[Russian]> answer
[12:02] <qw[Russian]> my question )
[12:02] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: You didn't ask anything?
[12:03] <qw[Russian]> now i am first in kubuntu-ru channel
[12:03] <qw[Russian]> asked
[12:16] <qw[Russian]> lordievader: how many people present in kubuntu-ru ?
[12:16] <lordievader> qw[Russian]: How should I know?
[12:16] <qw[Russian]> =)
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:40] <qw[Russian]> hi
[13:38] <teodi> Hi, is it possible to change the transparency of the main panel in kde4? I can't seem to find it, I'd like to change it to opaque, I don't want to see my wallpaper behind the panel...
[14:05] <Peace-> teodi: well you can
[14:05] <Peace-> teodi: i mean you need to create your own theme i guesss
[14:06] <teodi> Peace-: can't I just modify the existing theme?
[14:06] <Peace-> teodi: well you can
[14:06] <Peace-> but you need to edit a file
[14:06] <avihay> or look into plasmate
[14:07] <Peace-> avihay: ?
[14:08] <Peace-> teodi: $HOME/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme/TransparentDarkWallpapersNowardev/widgets/panel-background.svgz    this for example is the location of the file for theme Transparen dark wallpers nweradev
[14:09] <avihay> plasmate should enable you to create/edit themes among other things, I tried playing with ver 0.0.1, crashed alot, didn't try since
[14:10] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[14:10] <Peace-> avihay: plasmate in terminal gives program not found
[14:11] <avihay> ya, you need to download it...
[14:12] <Peace-> avihay: unable to locate plasmate debian package
[14:12] <Peace-> so i guess it's some kind of external plugin
[14:12] <avihay> Peace-: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/PlasMate
[14:12] <phoenix_firebrd> My screen goes blank after 30 sec of idle time. I have checked with the power settings and screen saver options, everything is disabled. still having this issue,. This is happening after i installed the Nvidia proprietary driver
[14:13] <phoenix_firebrd> Any solution to the above problem?
[14:14] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: i dunno maybe loading kernel with some special congigs
[14:14] <Peace-> like noacpi ?
[14:14] <phoenix_firebrd> is there any special settings for the nvidia driver?
[14:14] <Peace-> avihay: tx
[14:14] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: you need to search on wiki \ google
[14:14] <teodi> Peace-: sooo, how do I edit this *.svgz file?
[14:15] <Peace-> teodi:  if youi have calligra office suite you shoukld be able to edit it
[14:15] <Peace-> teodi: or another svg editor
[14:16] <avihay> there are also inkscape and karbon that should be able to edit .svg
[14:17] <Peace-> avihay: karbon is into calligra suite
[14:18] <Peace-> teodi: but you can even mix some themes ...
[14:19] <Peace-> teodi: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/09/23/plasma-desktopEu9796.png
[14:21] <teodi> Peace-: changing that panel background doesn't seem to do anything.. I have changed it to a colourful file and I see no change..
[14:22] <Peace-> teodi: try to add a new panel ...
[14:22] <avihay> hit apply?
[14:22] <Peace-> teodi: an maybe save the stuff and select the new theme...
[14:22] <Peace-> teodi: my theme nowardev is a mix of th others
[14:23] <Peace-> ... i did using that window
[14:29] <teodi> Peace-: thanks a lot :)
[14:30] <Peace-> avihay: hell i can't find how to install plasmate
[14:30] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, don't disable screensaver and power management , set them up with some minutes ..I use 180 , otherwise the default blank screen takes over for some reason
[14:31] <Peace-> avihay: btw i just compiled again dolphin i dont want waste time compiling again :D
[14:31] <avihay> I think you have to git clone it
[14:31] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i will do that now
[14:31] <Peace-> avihay: ah....... cry
[14:33] <BluesKaj> in power management >energy saving , 180 mins in the "dim display" option unless of course you use a laptop
[14:33] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: wow, that worked, thank you very much. Should i file a bug report?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, you can if you want , but I'm sure it's a duplicate by now
[14:34] <avihay> Peace-:  there was atleast one GSoC project to make Plasmate ready for the wider public, so it will be out in a few years
[14:35]  * avihay is optimistic
[14:35] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ya, probably. I will check for a duplicate, if nothing is found i will report a bug
[14:35] <Peace-> avihay: lol
[14:37] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: are you using a nvidia card?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, yes
[14:40] <BluesKaj> 8400gs , not very fancy , but ti works fine ..a bit noisy tho
[14:40] <phoenix_firebrd> apachelogger: proprietary driver?
[14:43] <apachelogger> phoenix_firebrd: pardon?
[14:43] <phoenix_firebrd> apachelogger: nothing :)
[14:44] <phoenix_firebrd> apachelogger: wrong nick
[14:44] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: proprietary driver?
[14:46] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, nvidia-current , the listed additional drivers are prprietary afaik , but i installed the nvidia-currebt driver from the repos , not from jockey
[14:47] <BluesKaj> nvidia-current
[14:47] <BluesKaj> those addtional proprietary drivers don't work for my card
[14:49] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: same here, but installed from the nvidia website
[14:49] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: may be some problem in 12.10
[14:50] <BluesKaj> which driver phoenix_firebrd
[14:51] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: you mean the one from the website? its 304.43
[14:52] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: tried nvidia-current and nvidia-experimental from jockey both didnt work
[14:52] <BluesKaj> I have the nvidia-current from the repos , it'
[14:53] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: nvidia-current has version 304.43, the same version of the one from the website, but i dont know why it didn't work
[14:53] <BluesKaj> s also 304.43
[14:54] <qw[Russian]> рудз ьу
[14:54] <qw[Russian]> sorry
[14:54] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i also had to blacklist nouveau in modeprobe.d and uodate the initramfs
[14:54] <BluesKaj> what's the file extn on the website driver?
[14:54] <qw[Russian]> help me please
[14:54] <FloodBotK1> qw[Russian]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:54] <phoenix_firebrd> *update
[14:54] <qw[Russian]> i would like install eggdrop
[14:54] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj:  its .run
[14:55] <phoenix_firebrd> !russian
[14:55] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, I didn't have to blacklist nouveau , I use it as a backup , 'cause it's quite good
[14:56] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ya, you dont have to do that when you are installing from the repos or from  jockey, but with the one from the nvidia website, we have to do it
[14:57] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ya, nouveau is very good
[14:57] <BluesKaj> which nvidia card , phoenix_firebrd /
[14:57] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:57] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: 9400gt
[14:58] <BluesKaj> you shouldn't need the proprietary card form nvidia's site for that card
[14:58] <BluesKaj> err driver
[14:58] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: kubuntu works well without any problem with the internal onboard graphics
[14:59] <BluesKaj> desktop effects with the onboard ?
[14:59] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: its good
[14:59] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: intel x4500
[14:59] <BluesKaj> I can't use onboard ...no dvi out
[15:00] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: Ya, for the big screen?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> well ,not real big ..it's our tv  ., 42" panasonic plasma
[15:01] <BluesKaj> I'm 3M away with wirelss KB and mouse
[15:01] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: when adobe flash is gone, we wont need such power
[15:01] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: cool
[15:02] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: do you know that randa multimedia sprit is going on?
[15:03] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: We can use this opportunity to ask the guy to fix some bugs
[15:04] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: I know you are not satisfied with the multimedia system in kubuntu, so you can put forward your opinions  to them
[15:10] <Thecaptain2000> hi, I need to install a new hd, unfortunatly, being a sata 3 it need to take place of one of the existing hd  who will need to be attached to a different port (being a sata2). Now,  those hd that need to be moved are being mounted to / and to /home, which means I will need to change some configurations. can anybody tell me what conf file need to be changed? I can think of  /etc/fstab, anything else?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, I'm not happy with having to use pulseaudio , but nobody listens since it was implemented by an influentail developer who had mark Shuttleworth's ear back on 9.04 when it became dewfault
[15:11] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: whats your kubuntu version?
[15:11] <Thecaptain2000> 12.04
[15:12] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ok
[15:12] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: new install?
[15:12] <Thecaptain2000> ideally nope
[15:12] <Thecaptain2000> I mean, I do not want to reinstall anything
[15:12] <Thecaptain2000> I am just adding some space
[15:13] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: no did you install 12.04 or upgraded from 11.10?
[15:13] <Thecaptain2000> new install
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Thecaptain2000, you shouldn't have any trouble adding or changing your sata connections , just run sudo blkid on each kubuntu install and make sure they all show up in dolphin places
[15:14] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: in that case, as far as i know, you shouldn't have to change anything, because 12.04 is using uuids
[15:14] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: thats right
[15:15] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, yes , I've done it
[15:15] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: you had the same problem, i can remember
[15:15] <Thecaptain2000> BluesKaj: "on each kubuntu install" what do you mean?
[15:16] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: no what he means is you dont have to do anything
[15:16] <BluesKaj> well, i was relying on fstab , but labelling the partitions in partition manager after running blkid worked
[15:17] <Thecaptain2000> I will shut down try it and let you know :) if I never come back  please point people looking for me in the right direction :)
[15:17] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: if you face any problem revert back to the old setup and come here for help
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Thecaptain2000, if you have more than one linux OS partition
[15:18] <Thecaptain2000> BluesKaj: I do, I have / on one HD and /home in another
[15:18] <BluesKaj> HDD or partition ?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Thecaptain2000,^
[15:19] <Thecaptain2000> HDD, I may have a /var on a different partition
[15:19] <Thecaptain2000> in one of the two hd
[15:19] <Thecaptain2000> just went to check, that is indeed the case
[15:20] <BluesKaj> hd=HDD ?
[15:20] <BluesKaj> hard disk drive
[15:20] <Thecaptain2000> yes physical HDD
[15:20] <Thecaptain2000> yes
[15:20] <Thecaptain2000> we call¡em HD but I meant HDD
[15:21] <BluesKaj> why / on one HDD , and /home on another
[15:21] <Thecaptain2000> I can see several referencies on fstab to UUID (used to be /dev/dsxx during install)
[15:22] <Thecaptain2000> which means it should work, according to what you say. DOes the same count for grub as well?
[15:22] <Thecaptain2000> does it use UUIDs too?
[15:23] <BluesKaj> Thecaptain2000, to find out what /dev/sdX's are run sudo fdisk -l , then you can see which devices are which with uuid
[15:25] <Thecaptain2000> ok, I go and try. speak later
[15:35] <princess_> join #ubuntu-fr
[15:41] <Thecaptain2000> ok, disk is up, everything seems to be fine
[15:41] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: nice
[15:43] <Thecaptain2000> phoenix_firebrd: if now I want to mount permanently that one on a filesystem, I guess I will have to modify fstab, how do I  know the uuid of the partitions I want to add? it seems like I won't be able to use a /dev/sdxx anymore
[15:43] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: sudo blkid will list all the uuids
[15:44] <Thecaptain2000> got it
[15:45]  * marcdjay has discovered Kubuntu. And it was good
[15:46] <phoenix_firebrd> marcdjay: enjoy
[15:46] <decci> I have a small Ubuntu network (6 user) with Ubuntu Server.  I need a disaster recovery plan and implementation for the Server (user data backups are automatic), users use the server for storing only data and using DaviCal calendar system.  Ideal would be a way to get the server backup and running remotely in the event of a hardware failure. (assuming someone who would replace hardware does not know much about Ubuntu server).
[15:46] <Thecaptain2000> one last thing (for the day) something is broken in my graphical login, so that if I  bott the system up and try to log in, somethings happen (including seeing a terminal or a konsole appearing) than I am sent back to the login screen. The only tihng  I can do is to log in in text mode and startx from there. does anyone have any idea how to troubleshoot/fix this?
[15:47] <marcdjay> Thanks phoenix_firebrd. I only ever used KDE on an ancient computer, but it really is beautiful when you have the right hardware
[15:47] <phoenix_firebrd> decci:  try in #ubuntu
[15:47] <Thecaptain2000> marcdjay if u were a gnome user: Welcome to the free world :)
[15:48] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: try deleting the .xauthority in the home folder
[15:49] <marcdjay> Thecaptain2000: I was, though I've tried nearly every DE and WM known to man. Settled on KDE for my PC and OpenBox for my relic of a ThinkPad :p
[15:49] <Thecaptain2000> phoenix_firebrd: there doesn seem to be any .xauthority in my home folder
[15:49] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: the file is hidden
[15:50] <Thecaptain2000> I know, I looked for .xauth*
[15:51] <BluesKaj> Thecaptain2000,  before anything else update/upgrade/dist-upgrade first
[15:51] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: in that case use paste.kde.og to paste the content of xorg.log here
[15:51] <Thecaptain2000> BluesKaj: I have had this problem for a while and I have done a few  upgrade/dist-upgrade since
[15:52] <Thecaptain2000> phoenix_firebrd: do you want the current one or one I generate immediately after a failed login attempt?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> Thecaptain2000, lightdm or kdm login ?
[15:52] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: the one after the failed login
[15:53] <Thecaptain2000> BluesKaj:   I  do not know what you are talking about, the login procedure that comes by default, I did not play with that
[15:53] <Thecaptain2000> ok, logging out
[15:56] <marcdjay> Also just discovered how useful pastebinit for sneding configs to pastebin
[15:57] <phoenix_firebrd> brb
[15:58] <marcdjay> *sending. Stupid keyboard
[16:03] <decci> We want to set up a simple service that when you send an email and will hold the email for a certain amount of time and then forward it.
[16:06] <Thecaptain2000> phoenix_firebrd: I am trying to send the xorg.0.log file to a pastebin server using the pastebin widget but they seem all broken. going to pastebin via firefox
[16:07] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: ok, having my dinner , give me 15 min
[16:07] <Thecaptain2000> phoenix_firebrd:  of course
[16:08] <marcdjay> Thecaptain2000: try using pastebinit , a cli tool
[16:08] <marcdjay> cat <file> | pastebinit
[16:10] <Thecaptain2000> http://pastebin.com/CJ75Ctgj
[16:14] <BluesKaj> Thecaptain2000, have you tried nomodeset ?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset
[16:17] <Thecaptain2000> BluesKaj: let me explain what happens exactly: I get to the graphical login screen with no problems, when I put in username and password something happens but I am sent back to the login screen. Moreover, the graphical login used to work, it went bad once I tried to install kernel 3.5 (I need to use some windows program and the rendering was very slow). abandoned  3.5 I reverted to 3.2 but then the login started actin in the
[16:17] <Thecaptain2000> bizarre way I described before. So, in a nutshell, the login was working, I trashed it somehow and now it is broken, but this is not a compatibility issue
[16:18] <HackerII> D`oh!
[16:20] <BluesKaj> Thecaptain2000, somehow trashed , eh? so why are you so sure that nomodeset doesn't apply  , and have you tried the recovery kernel and use the repair broken packages dialog
[16:21] <HackerII> hows it going blues
[16:22] <HackerII> i was just thinking about you and stopped in to say hi.
[16:22] <Thecaptain2000> BluesKaj: Is there still a recovery broken package dialog? did not see it for a while. possibly I could but wouldn that affect my fglrx driver which I downloaded and compiled? (not using the old one provided by kubuntu)
[16:23] <BluesKaj> hi HackerII
[16:26] <phoenix_firebrd> decci: do you need a commercial support?
[16:30] <vbgunz> quick question. I checked out the beta of 12.10 and like a Fedora issue I had recently, nouveau simply does not work out of the box with a GTX 570. Theres a FIFO loop at boot. I removed the nouveau driver and tried startx but the gui is corrupted. I tried installing the nvidia binary driver from the repos and got stuck restarting x (it's nothing like it used to be)
[16:32] <vbgunz> I guess my question is, what's up with nouveau? getting a gui up on the live cd feels almost impossible, any workarounds?
[16:33] <phoenix_firebrd> vbgunz: whats wrong with the nvidia binary driver?
[16:33] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, the nividia-current driver should work from the repos
[16:35] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: I ran nvidia-xconfig from the terminal, then startx because Ctrl+Alt+Backspace in the gui doesn't work, does sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart still work? (I didn't try)
[16:36] <vbgunz> anyhow the startx after running nvidia-xconfig led to another corrupted gui, impossible to make out
[16:36] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, sudo service kdm start or lightdm depending on your display manager
[16:38] <vbgunz> I'll try it again in a bit, gotta restart to do it again
[16:39] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, I had that trouble in 12.10 after updating to kde 4.9.1
[16:40] <Thecaptain2000> ok, tried to fix broken packages, it downloaded a few things but then restarted and the problem persists
[16:42] <Thecaptain2000> ok, tried to fix broken packages, it downloaded a few things but then restarted and the problem persists
[16:42] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: I am going to try it again, wish me luck, I'll see you on the other side
[16:42] <Thecaptain2000> BluesKaj: where to I set the "nomodeset" parameter?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset
[16:43] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: hi
[16:43] <Thecaptain2000> phoenix_firebrd: hi
[16:44] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: there is no problem that i can see in the log
[16:44] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: try what BluesKaj said if that doesnt work try this command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[16:47] <Thecaptain2000> ok modified grub, rebooting and re-trying
[16:49] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, I had the trouble , and it was lightdm that was the culprit , kdm worked for a while but then it broke as well , so i was using tty login and startx for about a week til the DM was updated and fixed \
[16:49] <BluesKaj> same trouble
[16:49] <phoenix_firebrd> same here too
[16:49] <phoenix_firebrd> its all because of the binary drivers
[16:49] <phoenix_firebrd> thats why nvidia fb driver is blacklisted
[16:50] <phoenix_firebrd> lightdm needs more work
[16:51] <BluesKaj> well, I used mouveau til it suddenly wouldn't give proper resolution , so i reinstalled the nvidia-current driver and that worked properly ever since
[16:51] <BluesKaj> nouveau
[16:53] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: nvidia-current didn't work for be gave up after trying for 2 days
[16:54] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: we need some diagnostic tool
[16:54] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: yesterday i found this "ubuntu-drivers"
[16:55] <Thecaptain2000> ok, tried the nomodeset and the dpkg-reconfigure, no joy
[16:55] <HackerII> if it aint a laptop, just go get a popular semi cheap card and you wont have to deal with all that, just an opinion
[16:56] <Thecaptain2000> HackerII: r u talking to me?
[16:56] <HackerII> whoever has the nvidia problem
[16:57] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: are you sure you dont have the .xauthority file in your home directory
[16:58] <Thecaptain2000> renato@pk5c:~/Documents$ ls -l  .xauthority
[16:58] <Thecaptain2000> ls: cannot access .xauthority: No such file or directory
[16:58] <Thecaptain2000> opps
[16:59] <Thecaptain2000> renato@pk5c:~$ ls -l  .xauthority
[16:59] <Thecaptain2000> ls: cannot access .xauthority: No such file or directory
[17:00] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: it wasn't kdm it was lightdm. no, the beta is completely broken for me. I haven't used kubuntu in almost 2 years and wanted to check it out again, see where things are. this beta though is wrecked, I honestly believe it's nouveau that's the problem :(
[17:00] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: can you see when running  "dir -a"?
[17:01] <Thecaptain2000> renato@pk5c:~$ ls -la  .xauthority
[17:01] <Thecaptain2000> ls: cannot access .xauthority: No such file or directory
[17:01] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: you are using a driver form the repos or from the website?
[17:02] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000:* from
[17:02] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, 12.10 ?
[17:03] <vbgunz> yeah, what ever the latest beta there is I got from kubuntu about an hour ago
[17:03] <Thecaptain2000> at this particular moment I am using the ati driver I downloaded from their server.  this whole problem started when I tried to install kernel 3.5 (with the open source drivers) then purged it. so it is something "I" did, it used to work
[17:03] <BluesKaj> can you get to a tty and startx , vbgunz ?
[17:03] <vbgunz> I have a GTX 570, I can't see how nouveau doesn't know how to support it
[17:04] <vbgunz> when I say startx the most I got was a completely corrupted screen, completely pixelized, looks mosaic and impossible to decypher
[17:05] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, have you tried installing the nvidia-current driver at the tty ?
[17:06] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: did you read the requirements of the driver, sometimes incompatible  xorg version can create problems
[17:07] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: yeah, I had to update using apt-get to get it and after it was installed, I ran nvidia-xconfig, then startx and lightdm restart, etc, both ways to try and get to a gui *but* no go
[17:07] <Thecaptain2000> phoenix_firebrd: this  is not the driver, I had it working *with* the driver, reverted back to xorg drivers to try out 3.5. something during the installation/ purge went very wrong and the problem origin is in there, somewhere
[17:07] <vbgunz> I think I'll try again in a bit but am going to remove xorg-nouveau etc. I really am convinced it's the problem
[17:08] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, after installing even from the tty you have to reboot
[17:08] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: in that case install the same and uninstall it again to remove the broken packages
[17:09] <Thecaptain2000> phoenix_firebrd: install what? kernel 3.5?
[17:09] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: hmm, if it was a real install I'd do it but I was trying to see how far I could go off the live usb
[17:09] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: the driver that is broken
[17:10] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: also check in /var/log/kern.log for error messages
[17:10] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, ok , I haven't tried that method
[17:11] <vbgunz> It's all good BluesKaj, thanks for your suggestions and all, I'll try again in a bit, am tired and need some rest. I'll let you know what's up
[17:12] <Thecaptain2000> phoenix_firebrd: I can disable the driver (just rename xorg.conf and see if the error remains also using the OSS drivers
[17:13] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: try that
[17:13] <Santiclause> Hello, all. I find myself needing yet more help :|
[17:14] <Santiclause> I'm unable to connect to the wireless network here - the network manager just stays stuck on "configuring interface".
[17:14] <Santiclause> I could only find one thread on the subject, and that person had access to the wireless network to disable the authentication - I do not.
[17:16] <Santiclause> Of note is that I am able to connect to an unsecured wireless network, so it seems like maybe I'm getting the settings wrong for connecting to the secure one.
[17:17] <Thecaptain2000> phoenix_firebrd: no joy, the problem remains also with the OSS driver
[17:18] <phoenix_firebrd> I have no more ideas :(
[17:18] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000:  I have no more ideas :(
[17:19] <Thecaptain2000> is there anything in .kde that could cause this behaviour?
[17:19] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: oh ya i forgot
[17:19] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: try with a new .kde or a guest session
[17:19] <Thecaptain2000> I will create a new user and try to log in from there
[17:20] <CQ> hello... how does GIMP end up as the default PDF viewer ????
[17:20] <[Relic]> pre 12.04, I would just plugin the camera and turn it on the it would be auto detected and loaded.  Is there some new program I need for that in 12.04 so I can xfer pictures from the camera to the computer?
[17:20] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: backup .kde if you want to have the current settings
[17:20] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: ok
[17:24] <BluesKaj> [Relic], are you plugging the camera in via usb or data card ?
[17:25] <[Relic]> usb
[17:25] <BluesKaj> not showing up in dolphin/places ?
[17:26] <Thecaptain2000> phoenix_firebrd: the new user can login successfully....
[17:26] <Thecaptain2000> but the problem is not related to .kde as I can rename it and the behaviour does not change
[17:26] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: nice
[17:27] <[Relic]> even tried installing digikam thinking one of the libs was missing for the trigger
[17:28] <phoenix_firebrd> Thecaptain2000: ok, in that case continue using the new one
[17:28] <BluesKaj> [Relic], run lsusb in the terminal
[17:28] <phoenix_firebrd> I am off to bed now, good night all
[17:29] <BluesKaj> nite phoenix_firebrd
[17:29] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: gn
[17:29] <Thecaptain2000> haha :)
[17:29] <[Relic]> Bus 006 Device 006: ID 04a9:30bb Canon, Inc. PowerShot A95  <- finding it in there
[17:31] <[Relic]> it used to simply plug in, turn on and then a pop up would ask what way you wanted to handle it, leeching by digikam or open as directory etc.
[17:35] <BluesKaj> ok [Relic] , you may need to mount it , run  sudo fdisk -l , to get the /dev/sxx , then sudo mount /dev/sxx , xx being the fdisk designation
[17:35] <[Relic]> digiKam will load the pics but I can't get it to auto trigger dolphin so I can simply grab a few items, w/o the messy digikam interface
[17:37] <BluesKaj> perhaps mounting will work then
[17:38] <[Relic]> doesn't show there at all
[17:42] <[Relic]> I can find a way to extract a single picture so I am ok for now, but this seems like a serious bug if it used to work in a simple and easy way and now doesn't;  Thanks for the help.
[17:49] <BluesKaj> [Relic], have you tried kamera ?
[17:59] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[18:00] <lordievader> Hey Schrodinger`Cat, are you alive? Or is it unkown?
[18:00] <lordievader> Schrodinger`Cat: In other words, how are you?
[18:01] <Schrodinger`Cat> my plasma-desktop crashed, ans when i try to restart it i got http://pastebin.com/sPvkxWvW
[18:01] <Schrodinger`Cat> lordievader: i feel entangled :)
[18:02] <lordievader> Schrodinger`Cat: :P
[18:02] <lordievader> Schrodinger`Cat: I'm afraid I cannot help you with your problem.
[18:02] <Schrodinger`Cat> :/
[18:19] <akis> hi all. how can i launch kde settings through terminal? what do i have to write?
[18:20] <lordievader> akis: I believe it simply is "systemsettings".
[18:20] <lordievader> akis: Yes, that is all.
[18:21] <akis> ok. thanks it worked, although i am running xubuntu and i just installed them to make kde application native to xcfe.
[18:23] <hays> how do i check what version of kubuntu i have running?
[18:24] <lordievader> hays: lsb_release -a
[18:24] <lordievader> hays: Or do you mean the kde version?
[18:25] <hays> nope thats what i wanted thanks
[18:25] <hays> precise apparently
[18:25] <lordievader> hays: Ok, no problem.
[18:27] <marcdjay> Just got back from the shop to find my 6yr old daughter trying to hack into my laptop :o
[18:29] <HackerII> did she succeed ?
[18:29] <marcdjay> Nah, complex password ftw. She did try and social engineer me though, asking my date of birth etc
[18:30] <HackerII> lol
[18:30] <HackerII> little smarty
[18:30] <marcdjay> I'm so proud haha
[18:30] <marcdjay> she's gave up now and is playing on my ipod instead
[18:31] <HackerII> does she use linux yet ?
[18:31] <Schrodinger`Cat> re
[18:31] <marcdjay> She's dabbled with it a few times. I'm in the middle of building her a pc at the minute
[18:31] <Schrodinger`Cat> please how to relaunch plasma-desktop after he crash ?
[18:31] <HackerII> very nice
[18:32] <marcdjay> undecided which distro to install on there
[18:33] <marcdjay> Schrodinger`Cat: try kstart plassma-desktop &
[18:33] <marcdjay> *plasma-desktop
[18:34] <Schrodinger`Cat> ok thanks
[18:35] <marcdjay> no probs
[18:58] <natman> has anyone been using Telepathy ? any good compared to Kopete?
[18:59] <markovh> err... the install cd kubuntu 12.04 32bit is 720 MB, it can't fit on a cd
[18:59] <markovh> wait nvm
[19:07] <markovh> didn't mean 720, but it IS too big, just already reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1050726
[19:09] <BluesKaj> markovh, yesterday i was informed there are 800 and 900mb blank cds available
[19:09] <helixhorned> hi.. anyone experiencing hangs after the 3.2.0-31 kernel update?
[19:11] <markovh> BluesKaj: not the standard though
[19:12] <BluesKaj> markovh, they follow the std for cd burning , afaik
[19:17] <Mamarok> helixhorned: which kernel update are you talking about? I have no hangs here on Quantal
[19:24] <jussi> natman: Ive used telepathy, still a few little bugs, but very useable. However, no password protected jabber rooms can be joined...
[19:25] <helixhorned> Mamarok: i'm on 12.04 (can't memorize the cute names nowadays)
[19:25] <Mamarok> Precise :)
[19:25] <helixhorned> this one works fine
[19:26] <helixhorned> Linux pk-desktop 3.2.0-30-generic-pae #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 24 17:14:09 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[19:26] <Mamarok> helixhorned: I didn't know there was a kernel update
[19:26] <Mamarok> for Precise that is
[19:27] <Mamarok> and what hangs are you experiencing? Of what application?
[19:27] <helixhorned> just general hangs... once it was just browsing a forum with firefox, the other time when i had just mounted a fat32 usb partition (thankfully, no data loss)
[19:28] <helixhorned> in the second case, i could move my mouse cursor
[19:28] <GH0> I am experiencing A LOT of "unexpected errors" popping up and notifying me of things. Specifically related to kdeinit4 and synaptic(sometorothere)
[19:28] <GH0> Have there been any known software updates that would cause problems?
[19:28] <Mamarok> GH0: you didn't tell whast you are using now
[19:28] <helixhorned> in each case, i could *not* do Ctrl-Alt-F1
[19:28] <Mamarok> what*
[19:29] <Mamarok> helixhorned: external keyboard connected how?
[19:29] <helixhorned> usb
[19:29] <Mamarok> folks you really need to be more specific when you ask questions
[19:29] <helixhorned> it's a desktop btw
[19:29] <GH0> Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04
[19:29] <Mamarok> GH0: do you use the PPAs?
[19:29] <Mamarok> or just 12.04 as it is?
[19:30] <Mamarok> because to know about updates http://kubuntu.org/news is the place
[19:31] <Mamarok> helixhorned: difficult to know what is problematic as the errors appear to be random
[19:31] <GH0> I pretty much use Ubuntu as it is, sans a PPA for Chrome, however, that is it.
[19:32] <Mamarok> GH0: well, I am not talking about Chrome, I am talking about the official updates and backports PPA from Kubuntu
[19:32] <GH0> This wasn't occuring until today, on the latest reboot I had to perform, so I am wondering what the issue is. I didn't see anything that would stand out and scream error in the logs, but at the same time, I wouldn't know what I am looking for.
[19:32] <Mamarok> because there was an update for 12.04 recently, 12.04.1, you should really do that
[19:32] <GH0> Then yes, I do use the official updates, however, I don't use backports.
[19:32] <Mamarok> OK, so 12.04.01 it is
[19:33] <Mamarok> usually the error messages you get are quite specific, no? And it lets you report bugs
[19:33] <Mamarok> which you should do eventually so it helps finding the problem
[19:33] <helixhorned> Mamarok: yeah... i guess i'll just wait for the next kernel update and if the problem doesn't go away magically, try to approach this more systematically
[19:46] <davidpt> olá
[19:46] <davidpt> hello
[19:46] <davidpt> portugal?
[19:47] <jussi> !pt | davidpt
[19:48] <davidpt> tank you
[19:59] <jacklk> Hello, can someone tell me what type of socket this is? http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lprsdbDKp41qdeh10o1_1280.jpg
[20:01] <valentin> HELLO C:
[20:01] <lordievader> Hey valentin, how are you?
[20:02] <valentin> Hey lordievader I am fine &  you ? :)
[20:02] <valentin> I love that smiley C:
[20:02] <lordievader> valentin: I'm doing good, thank you for asking.
[20:02] <valentin> So
[20:02] <valentin> where are you from ?
[20:03] <lordievader> valentin: You'll find out eventually.
[20:03] <valentin> I'm lazy
[20:03] <jussi> valentin: this isnt a chatter channel, its more for support. best to join #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter
[20:04] <valentin> jussi : I love being out of context :D sorry
[20:04] <valentin> lordievader :Netherlands ?
[20:58] <rymate1234_> Just trying out quassel, don't mind me
[20:58] <rymate1234_> :)
[20:59] <rymate1234_> wait
[20:59] <rymate1234_> this is freenode
[20:59] <rymate1234_> XD
[20:59]  * rymate1234_ goes
[21:02] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[21:03] <Schrodinger`Cat> i would like to know how kubuntu can mount usb-keys, hards-drives, without entries in fstab, or root privileges, with what software please its possible ? thanks
[21:08] <BluesKaj> Schrodinger`Cat, they can be mounted without write permissions afaik , as read only
[21:17] <Schrodinger`Cat> BluesKaj: ok, but here its with permisions to write and i guess myself, how is possible :)
[21:26] <BluesKaj> sudo blkid , Schrodinger`Cat ..I don't bother much with fstab altho you can if you wish ... http://turriebuntu.wordpress.com/ubuntu-pages/general-ubuntu-pages/mount-a-partition-at-start-up-based-on-its-uuid/
[21:28] <Schrodinger`Cat> BluesKaj: thanks
[21:29] <BluesKaj> Schrodinger`Cat, I changed the labels in partition manager so the drives and partitions are easier to recognize in dolphin /places
[21:30] <Schrodinger`Cat> ok
[21:31] <Schrodinger`Cat> i know how to mount manualy a partition, and /etc/fstab to mount quickly, but i would like to know how kubuntu can mount a partition when i click on the icon appear on the bottom right of my screen, and dolphin opens, and its mounted :)
[21:32] <HackerII> gotta run, take care BluesKaj ,
[21:33] <Schrodinger`Cat> is autofs ?
[21:38] <BluesKaj> Schrodinger`Cat, if they're listed in dolphin/places then they should be mounted afaik  ,(  sudo mount -a ? )
[21:39] <Schrodinger`Cat> so
[21:39] <Schrodinger`Cat> i dont explain good what i want :/
[21:39] <Schrodinger`Cat> sorry for my english
[21:43] <BluesKaj> Schrodinger`Cat, the partitions should mount if you have user permissions and are read/weiteable if you have root permissions , that's all I kno2w
[21:49] <Guest8480> hi
[21:49] <Guest8480> hi
[21:52] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: hey, I found a workaround to get to a gui from the latest beta live usb. I set nomodeset, it brought me to useable resolution
[21:54] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, good to hear :)
[22:00] <Santiclause> hmmm
[22:00] <Santiclause> for some reason I'm having problems opening the kickoff launcher with a hotkey
[22:00] <Santiclause> I'm simulating F13 with xdotool but it's not doing jack squiddly