[00:11] <bjsnider> penguin42, such as what, for instance?
[00:13] <penguin42> bjsnider: bug 216537 for example
[00:13] <bjsnider> geomview?
[00:14] <penguin42> ok, no I never used it before, but it's a package still in quantal and that's reproducable
[00:15] <phunyguy> wow.... doesn't make one very confident that just filed a bug... lol
[00:16] <penguin42> phunyguy: Your chances are somewhat better on main packages
[00:16] <phunyguy> =P
[00:19] <penguin42> ooh, one of my old ones fixed in quantal
[00:19] <bjsnider> that code hasn't been touched very much
[00:19] <bjsnider> the last time code was committed was march i guess
[00:20] <bjsnider> most of it seems to be laying around untouched for years
[00:20] <penguin42> bjsnider: But then you take things like bug 484914  - more subtle
[00:20] <bjsnider> http://geomview.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/geomview/geomview/
[00:21] <bjsnider> well, now there's nobody officially paid to work on kde bugs right?
[00:21] <bjsnider> and i'm sure there are a lot of kde bugs
[00:23] <penguin42> bjsnider: the only thing that's changed is paid for people to fix kubuntu (not kde generally)
[00:23] <penguin42> (as far as I understood) and that's an upstream bug
[00:25] <bjsnider> it's an upstream bug in kate that has been there for years and is reproducible in quantal?
[00:25] <penguin42> yes
[00:27] <penguin42> bjsnider: There's some great little bitesize ones as well; like bug 305831 - 1 char typo in a man page that was reported about 4 years ago, still in quantal; of course it's not important, still a valid bug though
[00:28] <bjsnider> well, that's an easy fix, you just create a patch and propose a merge using bzr
[00:29] <penguin42> and send upstream, I was in a triaging mood, so marked it, and marked it as bitesize for someone
[03:21] <phunyguy> My ~/.gvfs folder keeps disappearing... how can I put it back? I have shares mounted but there is no gvfs folder!
[05:10] <phunyguy__> WOW...  MusicBrainz Picard (from the official repos!) Crashes my PC LIKE A BAWSS on 12.10.   HDD indicator LED lights steady, mouse gets slower and slower until everything is completely unresponsive, meanwhile a window appears that is just a titlebar and whatever was behind it as the window contents.
[05:27] <phunyguy> Hmmm, now I can't select Gnome session from the login window.  I can select Gnome Classic, as well as Gnome Classic with no effects, but GNOME by itself won't select.
[05:29] <gnomefreak> anyone seen the amazon adds to unity luncher yet
[05:30] <bazhang> !find unity-lens-shopping
[05:31] <bazhang> unity-lens-shopping  is supposedly the package
[05:32] <gnomefreak> its in 12.10
[05:32] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~$ policy unity-lens-shopping
[05:32] <gnomefreak> unity-lens-shopping: Installed: 6.0.0-0ubuntu1 Candidate: 6.0.0-0ubuntu1
[05:33] <bazhang> and the bot should report it here
[05:33] <gnomefreak> wait a minute you this *lens-shopping is what im thinking of?
[05:33] <bazhang> !info unity-lens-shopping
[05:33] <bazhang> so the bot is out of date
[06:32] <trijntje> is there a way to speed up Quantal in Vbox? It's really a lot slower than 12.04
[06:33] <bazhang> allot more ram
[06:40] <trijntje> that's what I was afraid of, I've only got 2
[07:00] <phunyguy> so, I hear that libimobiledevice has a good chance of working for the newer iphones now?
[07:00] <phunyguy> can anyone in here confirm that and/or help me find out?
[07:46] <smallfoot-> GNOME doesn't work
[07:46] <smallfoot-> i cant select it in LightDM
[08:19] <jokerdino> smallfoot-: try installing gnome-shell from TTY
[08:20] <smallfoot-> but my unity works
[08:20] <smallfoot-> and gnome-shell is installed
[08:20] <smallfoot-> its just i cant select it, and when i click on it, it logins unity instead
[08:21] <jokerdino> so, there is no option to change sessions in lightdm?
[08:23] <smallfoot-> the option is listed, its not just possible to mark the option
[08:23] <smallfoot-> and when i try to mark the option, it logins on unity instead
[08:23] <jokerdino> click on it and press ok
[08:24] <smallfoot-> if I click on any other, it gets marked and I can click on Login, but if I click on GNOME, it doesn't get marked
[08:25] <jokerdino> i see upcoming conspiracy theories
[08:25] <smallfoot-> lol
[08:27] <jokerdino> i can't tell. it works fine for me.
[09:51] <mokoloko> hmmm strange with latest updates panel doesn't show buttons when maximized and launcher is not "aware" of open apps meaning when clicking on icons it always tries to open new instance :( anyone else seeing this?
[09:52] <jokerdino> mokoloko: yeah. try installing ubuntu-webapps0
[09:53] <jokerdino> err, unity-webapps0
[09:53] <mokoloko> thx! :)
[09:54] <jokerdino> works yet?
[09:54] <jokerdino> mokoloko: bug #1053288
[09:54] <mokoloko> ah good to know its known
[09:54] <mokoloko> wait a sec
[09:55] <jokerdino> try libunity-webapps0
[09:58] <mokoloko> yeah i checked with synaptic and there was libunity-webapps0 installed but also some unity-webapps without the zero and version had precise in it :D so i removed it and reinstalled libunity... ill log out now :)
[10:08] <mokoloko> jokerdino didn't work. will try the workarounds! thanks for help :)
[10:09] <jokerdino> good luck
[10:15] <mokoloko> jokerdino wuhuu works now! all is well and i got fancy amazon and ubuntu one webapp shortcut :D
[10:15] <jokerdino> mokoloko: grats.
[10:15] <jokerdino> now i don't have those things here.
[10:15] <jokerdino> how did you get that?
[10:18] <mokoloko> jokerdino found while looking at that libunity-webapps0 package that i didn't have xul-ext-unity installed :P
[10:18] <jokerdino> aha, thanks mokoloko
[10:19] <mokoloko> and xul-ext-websites... :)
[10:21] <jokerdino> hm does webapps work yet?
[10:27] <mokoloko> not for me no except for those new icons.
[10:27] <jokerdino> alright. thanks mokoloko
[10:30] <gnomefreak> the command to change the controls back to right hand side doesnt work anymore :( window controls
[10:33] <gnomefreak> anyone have the updated command by chance?
[12:03] <edgy> hi, $ smbclient -L localhost -U%
[12:03] <edgy> Connection to localhost failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED)
[12:03] <edgy> what's wrong in the default samba configuration
[12:27] <penguin42> sounds like you don't have a local server running
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:41] <penguin42> hey
[12:42] <edgy> penguin42: I have started samba4
[12:43] <penguin42> edgy: I can't remember the port, but you should be able to see it in the output of netstat -anp ?
[12:43] <edgy> $ sudo restart samba4
[12:43] <edgy> samba4 start/running, process 5957
[12:43] <penguin42> somewhere in the first part
[12:45] <edgy> penguin42: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222422/
[12:46] <penguin42> well that looks sane
[12:47] <penguin42> edgy: Instead of using localhost try it with the external IP of your machine
[12:48] <edgy> penguin42: I already did but same result
[12:48] <edgy> penguin42: can you please try it yourself
[12:49] <penguin42> I don't have any samba stuff set up
[12:49] <penguin42> but let me just boot my test vm
[12:49] <edgy> penguin42: thanks for your care
[12:53] <penguin42> ok, I can confirm I get the connection refused
[12:55] <penguin42> edgy: The /var/log/samba/log.%m (odd naming in itself) is filled with odd errors
[12:55] <edgy> penguin42: exactly
[12:57] <edgy> [2012/09/23 15:56:36,  0] ../source4/smbd/service_task.c:35(task_server_terminate)
[12:57] <edgy>   task_server_terminate: [Cannot start Winbind (standalone configuration): Failed to find record for GT683R in /var/lib/samba/private/secrets.ldb: No such object: (null): Have you provisioned this server (GT683R) or changed it's name?
[12:59] <penguin42> I don't seem to have that error in that log
[12:59] <edgy> penguin42: the default configuration used to work in previous ubuntu's now it broke and need experienced user may be to make it work
[12:59] <penguin42> I also see a '/usr/sbin/smbd: Failed to exec child - No such file or directory'
[12:59] <penguin42> edgy: Bug report it and mark as regression then
[13:00] <edgy> penguin42: which samba did you install 3 or 4?
[13:00] <penguin42> 4
[13:00] <edgy> penguin42: but 4 doesn't have /usr/sbin/smbd!
[13:01] <penguin42> haha
[13:03] <penguin42> well that's in the logs
[13:04] <penguin42> edgy: http://pastebin.com/YRY9L0w9  is the set of packages I have installed
[13:04] <Bluefoxicy> am I on the beta yet?
[13:05] <Bluefoxicy> edgy is old
[13:07] <edgy> penguin42: I wonder how come we have samba-common which is version 3.6.6-3ubuntu4  installed
[13:10] <penguin42> edgy: I suspect that's where the client is coming from
[13:11] <penguin42> edgy: Note that samba4 is universe, samba is main
[13:12] <edgy> penguin42: ok I will file a bug later maybe
[13:13] <penguin42> edgy: If you do then please tell us the number, I'll confirm it
[13:14] <penguin42> edgy: Just installing 'samba' rather than samba4 works
[13:14] <edgy> penguin42: I know
[13:18] <edgy> penguin42: many bugs at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/+bugs and no one is taking it seriously ;)
[13:19] <penguin42> 26? That's not many !
[13:21] <edgy> penguin42: maybe but no response in all of them is normal?
[13:21] <BluesKaj> edgy, the samba gui seems give trouble , I just use smb to access windows shares and it seems to work fine
[13:21] <penguin42> edgy: Don't forget those are the only ones that are open, look at the ones that are closed
[13:21] <edgy> BluesKaj: I want to share a folder in my linux system using samba4, no windows is involved
[13:23] <BluesKaj> then you don't need samba , just use ssh/sftp in networking, edgy
[13:23]  * penguin42 wonders if being able to start a terminal in the remote desktop registration login is a bug - it's done as guest so it should only be as insecure as the rest of it
[13:23] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Now now, it's perfectly reasonable he wants to use samba4 for it
[13:23] <edgy> BluesKaj: I want to use samba and choose to use localhost for simplicity only
[13:24] <BluesKaj> penguin42, well ,I'm merely suggesting an alternative, \ if he's stuck on samba which primarily desgined for windows shares and it's not working for him
[13:24] <edgy> penguin42: I searched for Fix Released bugs and found none ;)
[13:25] <penguin42> edgy: I see them
[13:26] <edgy> penguin42: fixed for quantal?
[13:26] <penguin42> edgy: I didn't search for quantal, just fixed released in samba4
[13:26] <BluesKaj> edgy, simplicity ...uhm there's nothing more simple than smb , or sftp/ssh , but to each his own
[13:28] <edgy> penguin42: I have to go now and reconnect after an hour or so, I will try to file the bug and report here, thanks for your care
[13:30] <penguin42> np
[15:41] <AaronCampbell> I have an AMD ATI Radeon 6870 video card with 4 1920x1080 monitors attached.  It was working well with the proprietary drivers in 12.04.  I didn't upgrade to 12.10, I did a complete reinstall, and now it uses the open source driver but everything is REALLY laggy (dragging windows, switching desktops, etc, etc).
[15:44] <AaronCampbell> If anyone has any ideas what I could try, or suggestions on what additional info would help, let me know.
[15:52] <penguin42> AaronCampbell: I believe the closed driver isn't yet available on 12.10; it normally manages by release date
[15:57] <AaronCampbell> penguin42: Do you think that will likely fix the lag?  Or do you think it's some other setting?
[15:57] <AaronCampbell> I'd love to use the open source driver (which ever worked at all for be before), but obviously the lag makes it very hard to work
[15:58] <penguin42> AaronCampbell: it's probably best to ask on #ubuntu-x or the radeon driver mailing list
[15:59] <penguin42> AaronCampbell: I use an hd4350 on the open driver with a single monitor and it's happy with KDE
[15:59] <AaronCampbell> So many Ubuntu channels :)
[15:59] <penguin42> AaronCampbell: It might be useful to check just which driver it's using
[15:59] <AaronCampbell> penguin42: How can I check that?
[15:59] <penguin42> AaronCampbell: In system settings-Xdetails what does it say for 'Graphics' ?
[16:01] <edgy> penguin42: ping
[16:02] <penguin42> ack ack
[16:02] <AaronCampbell> settings-Xdetails -> "command not found" and I don't see anythign like that in system settings
[16:02] <penguin42> AaronCampbell: Oops
[16:02] <penguin42> AaronCampbell: Sorry, bring up system settings and then go to details
[16:02] <penguin42> my > tends to get mashed into X by synergy
[16:02] <AaronCampbell> Ahh, under "Graphics" Driver says "Unknown
[16:02] <penguin42> hmm odd
[16:03] <edgy> penguin42: I'm back, i would file the samba bug now so you can confirm it, please
[16:03] <penguin42> AaronCampbell: Can you get /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a paste bin?
[16:03] <penguin42> edgy: Sure, just say    bug ..... where ..... is the number and I'll do it
[16:05] <AaronCampbell> penguin42: http://pastebin.com/i1RiJnHi
[16:08]  * penguin42 looks
[16:10] <penguin42> AaronCampbell: Well there are no errors in there, and it seems to be using the open source radeon driver, so it's doing the right thing - just slowly
[16:10]  * penguin42 really should treat himself to another monitor
[16:11] <penguin42> AaronCampbell: An interesting thing to try that might be interesting would be is it still laggy on one monitor ?
[16:12] <AaronCampbell> penguin42: I didn't notice the lag when the monitors were mirrored.  I could go back to that and try
[16:14] <penguin42> AaronCampbell: I suspect 4 monitors is an unusual (but very nice) config; so it might not have been tried much, but if you can nail it down to 'it works fine with 2 but breaks with more' type of bug then it would be worth filing the bug
[16:15] <AaronCampbell> penguin42: It works fine with 4 when they're mirrored
[16:16] <penguin42> AaronCampbell: http://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg-driver-ati    or ask on there if you're feeling enthusiastic, I'd hope the closed drivers land before full release
[16:17] <edgy> penguin42: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/+bug/1055075
[16:20] <penguin42> edgy: Confirmed it and marked it as a medium
[16:20] <penguin42> edgy: I've marked it as medium on the basis the problem is just a default config file problem - if it actually turns out that it's not just the config file that's broke then it should probably be moved higher
[16:21] <edgy> penguin42: thanks
[16:21] <edgy> penguin42: ok now I want to confirm another bug with you please
[16:22] <penguin42> sure
[16:22] <edgy> penguin42: if I added *.*           /dev/tty12 to /etc/rsyslog.conf shouldn't I expect logging to go there?
[16:22] <edgy> penguin42: i did but nothing there
[16:24] <penguin42> ah, now rsyslog is always a weird one
[16:28] <edgy> penguin42: I thought it's clear and stable
[16:28] <penguin42> edgy: Yes but it never does what I want
[16:29] <AaronCampbell> Under the little gear icon in the top right in 12.04 there was an option to set startup applications.  Where is that in 12.10?
[16:29] <edgy> penguin42: because we don't know how to use it or because its buggy?
[16:29] <penguin42> edgy: I'm not sure, I think it just doesn't like me
[16:30] <edgy> penguin42: hehe
[16:30] <edgy> penguin42: what did you try to do and didn't work?
[16:31] <penguin42> edgy: It's been a while
[16:33] <trism> AaronCampbell: gnome-session-properties; still there but they have been reworking the indicator menus
[16:34] <penguin42> edgy: Where did you add that line, before or after the include of the stuff in teh config directory
[16:35] <edgy> penguin42: actually I did it in /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf at the end
[16:36] <AaronCampbell> trism: Thanks.  Hopefully they put it back into the gui somewhere, but it seems to be working fine now that I know the command :)
[16:37] <edgy> penguin42: I will be away for 15 min
[16:58] <edgy> penguin42: I
[16:58] <edgy> penguin42: I'am back
[16:58] <edgy> penguin42: did you figure out anything?
[17:31] <penguin42> edgy: Sorry, no - I've been reading stuff
[18:51] <escott> any ideas why lightdm won't let me pick gnome session?
[18:55] <penguin42> I think someone else said they had seen that
[18:55] <trism> escott: you can use tab, I'll see if I can find the bug number though
[18:56] <trism> escott: bug 1052453
[18:56] <escott> doesnt really matter seems gnome-shell is broken anyways
[18:56] <trism> escott: do you have gdm installed?
[18:56] <escott> it just installed it with the latest updates
[18:56] <bjsnider> trism, is quantal relatively stable at this point?
[18:57] <trism> bjsnider: haven't really had any major issues in a while myself
[18:58] <penguin42> bjsnider: It's certainly better than a couple of weeks ago; I've not had a full session crash in my VM today, a couple of weeks ago I couldn't login for more than a few seconds
[20:11] <cielak> hello everyone!
[20:12] <cielak> I have just installed 12.10 on a machine that has no graphics acceleration - a typical config where I would normally use Unity2D
[20:13] <cielak> but as Unity2D has merged with Unity, I have no choice but to run the standard, 3d variant
[20:13] <cielak> I have to admit it works correctly (I have another copy of 12.10 to compare)
[20:13] <cielak> but is terribly slow & eats lots of CPU
[20:14] <cielak> Is there anything I can do to improve it's performance? Like disabling some effects etc.
[20:27] <BluesKaj> cielak, yes , disable nepmuk and akonadi if you don't need them for starters
[20:27] <BluesKaj> cielak, if you run kde that is
[20:28] <cielak> BluesKaj: nope, I use standart Ubuntu variant
[20:28] <BluesKaj> Simkin, i forgot for a sec what chan i was in :)
[20:29] <BluesKaj> oops cielak ^
[20:29]  * BluesKaj cleans his glasses
[20:54] <FernandoMiguel> lastest bootchart http://c.ourdoings.net/d3/2r/86i2v2.png
[21:07] <testing_> Hi, I left my computer alone for awhile, and the screen went blank, to save power. But now the screen stays black, except for the mouse cursor, which I can move around the screen. Sometimes the mouse cursor changes shape when it moves over a scrollbar I can't see.
[21:07] <testing_> What do you think it wrong, and how to do I fix it.
[21:08] <testing_> I am using a login on another terminal.
[21:09] <testing_> this has happened to me twice.
[21:21] <zenx> hi I installed a gmail quantal minimal fs and I can't establish https connection, I configured eth0 as dhcp in interfaces and added google's DNS nameserver to resolv.conf, is there something missing?
[21:22] <zenx> I don't know if resolv.conf is correct because on my working pc it uses local host and has "search home"
[21:50] <BluesKaj> zenx, gmail quantal minimal fs ?
[21:51] <FernandoMiguel> BluesKaj: gmail quantal minimal fs ?
[21:52] <dr_willis> Hmm. Just noticed the windows controlls have moved to the right hand side. ;)   did i miss a memo?
[21:52] <FernandoMiguel> dr_willis: right? wth
[21:52] <FernandoMiguel> it moved to the left two releases ago
[21:52] <dr_willis> Just not noticed it. they used to be on the left.
[21:52] <dr_willis> like yesterday.. they were on the left here.
[21:53] <BluesKaj> add the dns nameservers in  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head , zenx .. ignore the warning
[21:53] <FernandoMiguel> you broke it, you fix it
[21:53] <dr_willis> looking at  a blog site of new things in unity.. and went to minimize and noticed they had moved.
[21:53]  * FernandoMiguel checks for upgrades
[21:53] <dr_willis> all ive been doing is Updateing daily.
[21:54] <FernandoMiguel> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:54] <dr_willis> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:54] <dr_willis> just updated about 5 min ago and noticed it.
[21:54] <FernandoMiguel> I did my upgrades this morning
[21:55] <dr_willis> saw someone ranting about the 'shopping' lens earlier today in #ubuntu,  I dont see what the fuss is about.
 It is just the basic filesystem without any major packages. Thanks for the tip
[21:58] <FernandoMiguel> dr_willis: marc blog
[21:58] <FernandoMiguel> ppl fear to have ads or leak searchs to amazon, I guess
[21:59] <FernandoMiguel> the problem I see is another
[21:59] <FernandoMiguel> apple has patented local and remote search
[22:00] <BluesKaj> zenx, ok , understood include the router IP as a nameserver , the domain gateway, the search gateway and of course the nameservers for google dns or whatever dns IPs you use ..same as the old resolv.conf file settings
[22:01] <zenx> BluesKaj: thanks. But shouldn't dhcp take care of this?
[22:03] <BluesKaj> zenx, only if you're using network manager
[22:03] <zenx> ahh, got it. ty
[22:04] <zenx> well it seems to be working now
[22:05] <FernandoMiguel> or dhclient
[22:07] <BluesKaj> zenx, I'm no longer familiar with what network manager does or doesn't do anymore ..I'be been using the /etc/network/interfaces file to do the connecting along with resolv.conf for long time now
[22:07] <BluesKaj> with static ip instead of dhcp
[22:08] <zenx> BluesKaj: Yes I know it is the best practice, atleast you know what goes on
[22:11] <zenx> one less target to blame :P
[22:11] <zenx> G'night
[22:35] <RicardoMArtins__> hello. I finished the installation of Quantal to use with windows 7, but after reboot it still using the windows boot loader without linux option. neither windows is starting (getting blue screen). any tip?
[22:35] <RicardoMArtins__> (should be dual boot)
[22:37] <jtaylor> did you get an error during bootloader installation?
[22:37] <RicardoMArtins__> no
[22:38] <RicardoMArtins__> in fact there was no bootloader installation. i just booted up with usb and installed beside windows 7
[22:38] <jtaylor> you could try to install it again from a liveusb
[22:38] <RicardoMArtins__> i know it is installed, because if i try to reinstall it asks if i want to reinstall
[22:39] <RicardoMArtins__> i tried to reinstall too
[22:39] <jtaylor> there should be, the windows bootloader can't boot linux
[22:39] <RicardoMArtins__> now im using the " try ubuntu"  option. can i install other boot loader from here?
[22:39] <jtaylor> yes
[22:39] <jtaylor> run update-grub2 from a terminal
[22:40] <RicardoMArtins__> it says /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow.
[22:41] <jtaylor> probably it isn't installed at all
[22:41] <jtaylor> then you need to run grub-install /dev/sda
[22:41] <jtaylor> if sda is your primary disk
[22:43] <RicardoMArtins__> almost:  Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[22:44] <jtaylor> hm never seen that
[22:45] <jtaylor> you may have to use sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[22:45] <RicardoMArtins__> yes, i did
[22:47] <RicardoMArtins__> i will restore everything and try with 12.04... =/
[22:47] <jtaylor> is /boot mounted?
[22:47] <RicardoMArtins__> how can i check that?
[22:47] <RicardoMArtins__> if i type cd /boot it exists
[22:48] <RicardoMArtins__> and there is " grub"  there
[22:49] <jtaylor> it may be the boot of the liveusb
[22:49] <jtaylor> hm, try umount /boot
[22:50] <RicardoMArtins__> umount: /boot: not mounted
[22:52] <jtaylor> hm as you have a install you can probably chroot into it and run grub install from there
[22:53] <jtaylor> you can try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_the_LiveCD_terminal
[22:53] <RicardoMArtins__> excuse me, how?
[22:54] <jtaylor> it also has a section on repairing via chroot
[22:56] <jtaylor> but .6 in that section should work too
[22:58] <RicardoMArtins__> thanks jtaylor
[22:58] <RicardoMArtins__> i guess it will help
[22:58] <RicardoMArtins__> =]