[19:42] <knome> how can we / who can update http://doc.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ ?
[19:42] <knome> or is that site used at all any more, and if not, can we remove the old xubuntu docs
[19:44] <jbicha> knome: that site is obsolete, the current site is https://help.ubuntu.com/ but that is focused on just Ubuntu itself
[19:44] <knome> jbicha, in that case, can we get the outdated documentation removed?
[19:44] <knome> should i just contact the IS or is there a contact person for that site?
[19:45] <jbicha> hmm, I'm not sure where that site is maintained, mdke would know as he's been around for ever :)
[19:45] <jbicha> the non-wiki part of help.ubuntu.com is maintained at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-docs/help.ubuntu.com
[19:45] <jbicha> but that's probably not important to you
[19:46] <knome> no, not really
[19:46] <jbicha> you're going to post your help at http://xubuntu.org/help/ ?
[19:46] <knome> jbicha, we're going to link to the offline docs there
[19:47] <knome> jbicha, it's possible we'll upload the docs under our domain too, if doc.ubuntu.com is obsolete
[19:47] <jbicha> are you going to them online there too?
[19:47] <knome> ^
[19:47] <jbicha> yeah, doc.ubuntu.com is obsolete, hasn't really been touched since perhaps 2010
[19:47] <knome> i asked IS if they host doc.ubuntu.com, and if they do, i'll ask them to remove the xubuntu part
[19:48] <knome> and probably in the same RT, ask them to update our docs under our domain too
[19:48] <jbicha> ask on the ubuntu-doc list too about it though since 2010 is before my time with docs ;)
[19:48] <jbicha> oh, IS manages xubuntu.org?
[19:49] <knome> yes, why wouldn't they?
[19:49] <knome> i mean, we do of course have access to the wordpress installation, but not the files
[19:50] <jbicha> Lubuntu might manage their own website, but Xubuntu is older
[19:51] <knome> there's up and downs with IS managing the site obviously, and i believe they might let us host it on our own too, if we wanted
[19:51] <knome> at least aiui that's possible
[19:52] <knome> but let's say the less work, the better ;)
[19:53] <jbicha> yeah :)
[20:01] <bkerensa> jbicha: Lubuntu is hosted by canonical too
[20:01] <bkerensa> so is Kubuntu
[20:01] <bkerensa> they also own all the domains
[20:01] <bkerensa> since they have trademarks for them
[20:04] <jbicha> well that's not what whois lubuntu.net says
[20:07] <bkerensa> jbicha: ahh and they are hosted at the OSL
[20:07] <bkerensa> http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[20:07] <bkerensa> thats why Canonical has not yet trademarked Lubuntu
[20:08] <bkerensa> Xubuntu on the other hand is trademarked to Canonical