[00:14] Does OpenStack have a mode that doesn't involve starting up a secondary network? [01:31] today i logged into my server via ssh, and found this : *** System restart required *** [01:31] When I typed restart --no-wait it spits out an error, missing job. What do I need to type to restart the system? [01:33] just type restart [01:33] "reboot" is what you're looking for [01:33] not restart. [01:33] restart is to restart processes [01:33] thank you blast_hardcheese [01:33] no problem [01:34] Anyone have any idea regarding my OpenStack question? [01:34] The documentation is really hard to follow unless you're doing it exactly like they have it written. [01:34] man pages are scattered to the four corners of the planet as well. [01:34] man the shotgun huh? [01:35] heh [01:35] now I'm all messed up :) [01:35] some processes have decent help, others just give useless "This is a stub" [01:35] restart is the cisco command :) [01:35] patdk-lap: It's easy to get confused, I've found when you live with this stuff for a long enough time your fingers automatically type the right thing in the right context [01:36] If someone says something else that sounds right, your brain autocompletes the context [01:36] "you know, normal people just have aquariums" [01:36] screw normal [01:36] :D [01:36] I have a friend that collects aquarium software ;) [01:37] (obligatory xkcd: http://xkcd.com/1095/ ) [01:39] (01:36:54) blast_hardcheese: I have a friend that collects aquarium software ;) ... you mean like this? www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DXMXBnTOH0 [01:39] Link [YouTube] :: chovynz1 :: High Res - Aquarium Mineral Oil Submersion HDD Media Server PC [01:39] mm, no [01:40] :D [01:43] can't wait until the next stable kernel rev [01:43] 3.5.4 broke my touchscreen, had to revert to 3.4.5 [01:43] I've just rebooted my server, what would cause the server to stop responding at the Award Software System Configurations screen? [01:43] chovynz1: Any messages? [01:44] blast_hardcheese: no messages. the cursor is blinking at DDR SDRAM at Bank : 0 1_ [01:44] A couple things jump to mind. Easiest would be the BIOS getting stuck. [01:45] how do i unstuck it? [01:45] Completely remove power from the machine, hold the power button down to flush the capacitors, then plug it back in [01:45] bleugh. i dont want to do that every time i reboot. [01:45] shouldn't have to, but definitely something to test. [01:45] i can do it now, but it's not a long term solution [01:46] (Not 100% sure the capacitor thing actually works, might have to wait for 15 seconds or something. Pushing the button is easier though.) [01:48] waited for 40 [01:48] no dice? [01:48] no dice [01:49] Can you get into BIOS setup? [01:49] (or your EFI utility, if you're EFI) [01:49] yes. there now [01:49] Turn off "quick boot" [01:49] that'll run extended diagnostics [01:51] how i flash my cmos and bios? they 2003. [01:51] bring it to the 21st century baby [01:52] The general rule is leave it like it is unless you have to upgrade it [01:52] What did the diagnostics say? [01:52] ok. leaving it like it is [01:52] im not sure where to find the quick boot. having another look [01:54] Might not be "Quick boot" exactly [01:55] or anything that resembles it [01:55] What kind of BIOS [01:55] what motherboard [01:56] New bug: #1054823 in dovecot (main) "package dovecot-core 1:2.0.19-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1054823 [01:56] how would i find out without the software diagnostic tools? [01:56] Did you build this server? [01:56] sort of. off someone else's computer. they used win xp well. I wiped their HD and installed ubuntu and let it do it's thing [01:57] so you didn't build it, but it's not stock? [01:57] correct [01:57] open the case and read the mb? [01:57] Motherboards typically have the model number written on the board itself. [01:57] yeah, probly. [01:57] sec. [01:57] How long have you had this machine? [01:58] about a month [01:58] How many times have you rebooted it? [01:58] three times. first and second time i reinstalled ubuntu. [01:58] oh, a good question; What was the reason you needed to restart? [01:58] i've since put data on it so id prefer not to reinstall [01:59] Did you get any kind of "Your something or other has changed, please reboot"? [01:59] same thing. after the second i thought i had it stabilised as i rebooted and it went thought successfully. [01:59] *through [01:59] I'm from Debian, Ubuntu still feels kinda weird, all the stuff it comes with out of the box [02:00] after updating then rebooting it did this again [02:00] "do this, do that, here's how you do this" kinda stuff [02:00] lol [02:00] With debian, you install what you want [02:00] If you want that stuff, install it. If you don't, don't. === cpg is now known as cpg|away [02:02] What about my last question? [02:02] other than that message no [02:02] hmm. [02:03] Can you boot into the Ubuntu Installation media? [02:03] There should be a "Rescue Mode" [02:03] *** System restart required *** was the only message i got [02:03] Hmm. [02:03] I could be able to boot using a usb / cd / dvd [02:04] rather not unless necessary. [02:04] I'd like the system to work by itself instead of me rescuing it all the time :) [02:04] sec, getting a torch for the mb [02:04] That's the only other thing I can think of. If you can't get your BIOS to tell you anything useful [02:06] * chovynz1 mutters under the desk, that's often the case [02:07] could the RAM be stuffed? [02:07] Anything could be the issue, but I try not to go around saying things are broken without proof [02:08] ga-7vaxp sound like the mb? [02:08] If you suspect the RAM, run memtest86+, it should be on the Ubuntu install CD [02:08] http://ee.gigabyte.com/products/page/mb/ga-7vaxp-a/ [02:08] Probably [02:09] holy moly, nvidia gforce 6 on a ubuntu server [02:09] completly unecessary [02:09] with dual boot. :( [02:09] * blast_hardcheese jokes about Ubuntu Servers being more likely to have X [02:10] I think I may look at building my own in the near future, instead of relying on gifts. [02:10] Usually a good policy. [02:10] "gift" that I worked for in exchange for some web work [02:11] I dont even really know what hardware i need for a good server, i usually just bang it on [02:11] see what works [02:11] I know i dont need a graphics card [02:11] why would this have dual bios? [02:11] "dual bios"? [02:12] most servers do [02:12] huh. [02:13] Never heard of it [02:13] the primary and a backup [02:13] unless he is talking about the bmc and normal bios [02:13] Apparently Gigabyte has a "Patented DualBIOS technology" [02:13] phht [02:14] (tm)(r)(bs) etc [02:14] I dont even [02:15] ..really know what i would use this mb for. it's too underpowered for graphics, but too much and unecessary stuff for a sever [02:15] You could try flashing the BIOS, if you can get into the flash utility [02:15] *server [02:15] I downloaded the BIOS update EXE, it's self-extracting [02:16] and opens with wine, I should say [02:16] mm. Gentlemen. I shall need to depart. I thank you for your time. see you around. [02:16] good luck. [02:17] good evening fellow ubuntu-server enthusiasts [02:18] (and others, hopefully) [02:19] Upon doing a re-installation of Ubuntu system, while preserving my home directory. I am having some prob's with reference to getting grub installed on my lvm. I had it installed, and have a root/swawp lvm. I was re-installing ubuntu 12.04.1, while preserving home. However, upon the system re-installing when prompted I then had grub re-installed. It definitely didn't work(and I am using the alternate .iso 12.04.1 amd_64, which I read can handl [02:19] e doing re-installation while preserving lvm, though it is not yet official for ubuntu), and I am told with grub2 you don't need a dedicated /boot partition [02:19] blast_hardcheese, lol!!! Thank you for finishing! [02:21] My question is my Ubuntu installation had no dedicated boot partition before, and I am not able to find any good resources on installing the grub2 to the root LVM drive(upon checking it appears that this is where it was before) [02:21] CyclicFlux_: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2#LVM [02:21] Everything else went very well, and everything is preserved. My question is what is the best way to fix everything? [02:22] Check to see if the "insmod lvm" is in your grub config, for one [02:22] Oh, even better [02:22] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304407 [02:22] blast_hardcheese, thanks I will [02:22] Someone's already asked this question on the Ubuntu forums [02:23] Whoops, that's not the right URL at all. [02:25] This looks more helpful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1778935 [02:25] How are you booting currently, if you didn't install GRUB? [02:32] blast_hardcheese, I am using a live disk, because unfortunately I have only the ubuntu live alternate, and I am only able to get busybox shell, which is very limited. When I try to boot the normal system it just stands still. [02:32] So I am using a bt5 live disk [02:32] BT5 R2 gnome 64-bit [02:33] AH. [02:33] Err, Ah. [02:34] blast_hardcheese, sorry for the delay my client is not configured at all. [02:35] blast_hardcheese, I will say though when I try to restore grub on the dvd, I get put into the grub-shell, not grub 2(grub> is what I see). That tells me that the grub2 is not even found, so it is dropping back to grub. [02:36] blast_hardcheese, will I be able to mount it and fix it with this BT5 R2 Live DVD? [02:36] CyclicFlux_: I'm not familiar with either technologies to know if you can [02:36] familiar enough, rather. [02:38] blast_hardcheese, this is my fdisk -l output: http://pastebin.com/UaSU3rpF [02:39] What's sda1? [02:41] his /boot [02:41] blast_hardcheese, the sda1 I believe is the logical volume for my swap [02:41] only 200megs [02:41] I think [02:41] Here is the lvm output from lvdisplay: http://pastebin.com/8WAmNLMS [02:42] patdk-lap: Right, but he thinks he's got grub configured in LVM [02:42] heh? [02:42] CyclicFlux_: What makes you think /boot/ was in LVM before? [02:42] if your using grub2 also, that won't work [02:43] I saw it on the root partition I believe(however, I am not going to lie, I am not sure) [02:43] lol!!! [02:43] you need 1mb of space, not 32k space [02:43] CyclicFlux_: Good luck to you, going to go back to trying to configure OpenStack :) [02:43] Sorry I couldn't help [02:44] Should I make a new partition??(The ubuntu installer took care of everything, and this was done originally like 1 year ago, and I unfortunately didn't have notes when I did it, so its basically what the ubuntu installer did by default) [02:44] blast_hardcheese, thanks for your help anyway!! [02:44] patdk-lap, I am going to check it out. [02:46] patdk-lap, the /dev/sda1 is definitely my boot, and the dev/matterhorn-root lvm partition had a boot in it because I told the ubuntu installer to use it to install the system, and then when it said to install grub2 I believe ti defaulted to there, so the /boot on the /dev/mapper/matterhorn-root is there because of the installer using it for the default grub2 location(I am guessing) [02:47] heh? [02:47] you either have it *mounted* or not [02:47] nothing cares if what is pointed where [02:47] if it's mounted it is used, if not, it won't be [02:47] if it's mounted it will hide the lvm stuff [02:48] are you using grub1 or grub2? [02:48] patdk-lap, werrrrrd. So I am going to unmount them(I am sorry I am not terribly familiar with lvm/lvm2), I just set it up for the first time on this system. And I am using grub2 [02:52] I am thinkking by looking at everything now(via the file-explorer), the /dev/sda1 is the grub2 bootloader, and it is the 200mb partition. So I am guessing the LVM partition does not even need to have a grub, one can just use that and then point it to the lvm, and then insert an lvm module for grub to use? [02:52] hmm? [02:53] lvm should never have *a grub* [02:53] it should have a /boot with stuff, if you want to boot via it [02:53] but if you have a partition for /boot that is pointless [02:57] patdk-lap, thanks for telling me this I have been scouring the web for stuff, and it is telling me lvm can have grub2, and grub 2 doesn't need its own /boot partition/etc... I think I am now getting the pieces to come together. [02:58] well, yes [02:58] but as you already have a /boot, you can do either [02:58] but it makes sense to keep what you have :) [02:58] patdk-lap, according to this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting on point 1, referencing the grub-shell [02:59] I am getting dropped to the grub> shell, and according to the link, its possibly due to me not have a grub.cfg [02:59] did you boot into your system? [02:59] once you do [03:00] make sure /boot is mounted [03:00] do a update-grub [03:00] Now that I am looking at that its a really good resource to all grub2 issues. [03:00] and a install-grub, or whatever it is, grub-setup? [03:00] but likely the issue is your boot partition [03:00] it starts at sector 63 [03:00] I am in a live system now. I will give it a whirl again. I tried it before I think, do I update the initramfs after? [03:00] and that isn't enough space for grub2 [03:01] why initramfs? [03:01] I would use gparted to move your boot partition to start at the 1MB mark [03:02] because I thought that initramfs had to have the modules/etc... updated for grub2 [03:02] initramfs is for linux [03:02] patdk-lap, I will start by doing that then [03:02] if your in grub, you haven't got anywhere near initramfs [03:03] bios -> disk -> grub -> linux -> initramfs -> init scripts [03:04] patdk-lap, if you could kinda walk me through this I'd be very much obliged because once I boot, if it doesn't work I will have to get back into my live disk mode. My default ubuntu rescue doesn't work(when booting and holding shift key), the only thing that'll work is the 'previous linux versions' [03:04] hmm if previous works [03:05] then it sounds like a kernel thing [03:05] either /boot wasn't mounted when you upgraded the kernel, would be odd [03:05] so it's missing [03:06] patdk-lap, I just checked my output of fdisk -l, and my /dev/sda1 is currrently starts on 1 [03:07] patdk-lap, http://pastebin.com/UaSU3rpF [03:07] yes, but you didn't check via sectors [03:07] it starts at cylinder 1 (where cylinder size = 63) [03:07] Is it better to manually install or stick with repo version and trust it works better for little things like python packages (django, fiencms, etc)? I understand that the maintainers can't keep up with every project out there, but missing a security release of something I want to use bothers me. [03:08] patdk-lap, I am totally feeling like an amateur right now, lol!!! Thanks though I appreciate it!! [03:08] AtomicSpark, heh, I try to use the repo versions, but normally end up not doing it, cause it's too hard to make it work in my usecase [03:08] And the other thing that bothers me, a lot of these "minor" packages should be install in a director and not system wide. [03:08] don't move it using fdisk, use gparted [03:09] AtomicSpark, I use both repos(git), and pip(pip I think is better for python/django-related stuff), for all other stuff I definitely use git [03:09] patdk-lap, no doubt!! [03:09] AtomicSpark, if it wasn't system wide, how would it update it? [03:09] Does pip uninstall too? or do you just delete the folder? [03:10] AtomicSpark, yessir!! Its really much more up-to-date, and all-in-all fresh [03:10] AtomicSpark, recommended to me by several python devs [03:10] patdk-lap: updates can break things. and not everything can be imported/modified. [03:11] AtomicSpark, see pip --help(but make sure its installed) [03:11] I think django would be fine installing site wide. For you create sites/apps with it. [03:12] AtomicSpark, I have played/dabbled with django very little, I use php for that and then scrapy for crawling/etc... But it is something I'd like to get into messing around with because it definitely seems like it could be helpful [03:12] It's nice, but i get to a point where it gets over my head. [03:12] I'm seeing stuff about site-wide python, if it hasn't been mentioned already, use virtualenv [03:13] blast_hardcheese: I saw that before, was trying to find it again. [03:13] virtualenv is effectively chrooted Python environments [03:13] a must for system stability and general sanity. [03:13] I've never done it before, but it makes sense. [03:14] When projects start asking to instal prereqs, I get nervious. [03:14] yep. [03:14] AtomicSpark, this is why I normally drop the ubuntu packages for website stuff, and update it myself [03:16] patdk-lap, hey bud, I forgot for resizing in gparted is backing up necessary? [03:16] backing up is always necessary [03:17] qman__, I figured it, I am just gonna do a dd' [03:17] patdk-lap: Like phppgsql, which is just downloads and hides it somewhere, assuming you'll symlink it to /var/www? lol. [03:17] *'dd' [03:17] resizing with gparted is ~99% safe [03:17] that said, you should always have a backup, regardless of what you're doing [03:17] AtomicSpark, if only it hid it somewhere, it splits it up into like 6 different locations [03:18] qman__, I just remember there are some things/tasks that gparted should not be trusted for. [03:18] * patdk-lap hasn't used gparted for anything other than carving up new disks [03:18] so I haven't put any trust into it at all yet [03:19] Do you use apache or lighttpd? [03:20] lol, I already had virtualenv bookmarked. As you can see, I've attempted this a few times. [03:20] AtomicSpark, I use both Apache and NGINX!!! Love'em, but haven't tried lighttpd [03:31] AtomicSpark: There's nothing to it, really. [03:32] AtomicSpark: virtualenv ~/test-virtualenv && source ~/test-virtualenv/bin/activate && pip install django [03:32] bam, django running inside a virtualenv. [03:32] The tricky bit is getting virtualenv playing nicely inside Apache, I've not tried other webservers. [03:42] Would you keep your fastcgi stuffs (in this case python files) outside of /var/www? Keep that for static only? [03:46] Oh, they seem to put it in /var/virtualenv/yourdirectoryhere. That works, and makes sense. [04:31] Should I install distribute and pip from the repos? === phunyguy__ is now known as phunyguy === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off [08:08] Good morning. [08:10] Morning. === troy_ is now known as Troy^ [08:13] Hey AtomicSpark, how are you? [08:14] lordievader: Good. Trying to figure out what webserver I wish to use. I think I'm going to give up and just use Apache + WSGI. [08:15] AtomicSpark: I just use Apache, does the job so why change it? [08:16] Lighttpd has a lot of FUD around it but develepment and bug fixing seems iffy, nginx is the new hotness, but I'd use apache as a backend anyways. Really just focusing on trying to get django set up. [08:16] lordievader: Apache is pretty heavy for static files and I'm a good developer and on a VPS. [08:17] AtomicSpark: I see, well good luck with the decision. [08:17] Hello! [08:17] I just set-up my home server, but did not configure network during installation [08:18] would it be easier to do it during installation, or right now? [08:36] ElixirVitae: How far have you gotten? If you cannot dpkg-reconfiure it, might be a bit of a hassle. [08:39] I installed it all, with ssh-server only [08:39] now I want to control it using ssh, though, as I have not configured it during installation [08:39] I am having a bit trouble configuring it now === chovynz1 is now known as chovynz === zz_Kiall is now known as Kiall [10:25] hello [10:25] i have a problem .... [10:28] let me read you mind to find out your problem [10:29] !ask [10:29] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [10:57] <_ruben> bugger .. 4 nics with 8 queues each and 8 cpu thread (4cores+ht) .. yet most packets seem to be processed by cpu0, as it has ~15% SI, with other have <1% === Kiall is now known as zz_Kiall === zz_Kiall is now known as Kiall [11:25] I have this problem that stems from my father not holding me enough when I was a kid. [11:28] _ruben: irqbalance running? [11:31] <_ruben> RoyK: yes [11:32] wierd [11:34] <_ruben> each cpu does get a fair ammount of ethernet interrupts, just that cpu0 seems to be getting far more than the rest [11:35] _ruben: stats from /proc/interrupts ? [11:36] <_ruben> RoyK: that's what i'm looking at, yeah, and top [11:37] ic [11:38] <_ruben> wonder if there's some realtime top like tool for interrupts [11:39] itop [11:42] <_ruben> shame it doesn't show per cpu stats :/ [11:43] mhm [11:43] but it's open source, so SMOP :D [11:43] <_ruben> does show fairly evenly distributed rates for each int tho [11:43] and each int is serviced by a core/cpu? [11:47] <_ruben> i'll probably play with setting manual affinities, so that each queue goes to only 1 cpu thread === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts === Kiall is now known as zz_Kiall === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === glebihan_ is now known as glebihan === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off [13:45] New bug: #1055013 in postfix (main) "package postfix (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1055013 === fire_ is now known as nerd === doko__ is now known as doko [15:59] just re installed my ubuntu server what was the command again for connecting to the wifi? [16:02] iwconfig? [16:13] !patience [16:13] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [16:16] ElixirVitae: ? [16:19] oh, I just wandered what that trigger returned, that's all [16:19] :) [16:19] What other triggers are there for ubottu? [16:19] try asking it [16:19] !ask [16:19] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [16:19] ;) [16:20] I know that one~ [16:22] ok looking for ubuntu-Server Staff to Join a team of Networkers/Programmers/ETC message me if interested === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === KristianDK is now known as zz_KristianDK [19:06] !brain | ElixirVitae [19:06] ElixirVitae: Hi! I'm #ubuntu-server's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [19:06] Nice, grazie guntbert_! [19:07] ElixirVitae: niente :-) [19:33] hello, i have a 10.04 lts box. i'm installing php-fpm to work with apache2. what is the correct way to install fast cgi? sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-fastcgi ? [19:34] or libapache2-mod-fcgid [19:47] Hi [19:48] Please help me installing a webserver [19:52] nsudo: | !ask [19:52] erm [19:52] !ask | nsudo [19:52] nsudo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [19:52] !lamp | nsudo [19:52] nsudo: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+) === cpg|away is now known as cpg === guntbert_ is now known as guntbert === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === cpg is now known as cpg|away === zz_Kiall is now known as Kiall [21:59] hi [22:00] ghgfhfg === Ursinha` is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Guest44137 === Ursinha_ is now known as Guest21525 === Ursula_ is now known as Ursinha === cpg|away is now known as cpg