[01:18] <greg-g> snap-l: very interesting! (sorry, had to run out)
[01:18] <greg-g> brousch: that's all lies
[01:34] <Blazeix> turns out everything cool starts in Davenport, Iowa. SF just has a better marketing team
[13:38] <snap-l> g'morning
[14:09] <brousch> yes
[14:20] <snap-l> si si
[15:55] <brousch> Very nice http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/10ca2c/dont_trust_us_erm_we_have_root_you_do_trust_us/
[17:08] <rick_h_> ugh
[17:09] <Blazeix> eh, it's maybe poorly worded, but i agree with Mark's post
[17:10] <rick_h_> yea, I think end of the day it's just overreaction on that stuff
[17:10] <Blazeix> it gives fodder to  people who like knee-jerk reactions
[17:10] <rick_h_> it'll get polished up
[17:10] <rick_h_> but yea, seeing things just pop out of the air gets the troll feeding going
[18:14] <snap-l> Frankly Mark could post that he likes unicorns and lolipops, and end up pissing off the narwhal sucker-lovers.
[19:47] <greg-g> rick_h_: it isn't that the troll feeding goes, its that things pop out of the air unannounced and without any communication to the community. I don't care about any specific change. I do caremad, however, that the changes are done without regard to the wider community's interestings.
[19:47] <greg-g> that was my first use of the word caremad ;)
[19:48]  * greg-g had an email exchange with Mark and Jono about this yesterday/last night/just now
[19:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, understand.
[19:49] <rick_h_> you make a valid point on the community involvement, but I guess I've kind of given up on that long ago really
[19:49] <rick_h_> unfortunatly
[19:49] <greg-g> well, I'm a bulldog in this regard
[19:50] <greg-g> I'm not letting go
[19:50] <rick_h_> and I don't use the stuff (shhh don't tell anyone) so my caring levels are a bit lower
[19:51] <greg-g> hah
[20:47] <snap-l> Yeah, frankly I'm of the opinion that community is just another word for volunteer labor
[20:48] <snap-l> Whatever voice I might have in the decisions of Ubuntu is moot when it's all said and done
[21:09] <snap-l> The thing that kind of pisses me off about this whole thing is the notion that the door is open if you don't agree wit the choice.
[21:28] <snap-l> Also, I think GnuCash has succeeded in making importing a QIF file more of a chore than any other program.