[00:03] <binarymutant> this is my cup of tea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwHBaSySHmo :D
[00:06] <chris4585> I haven't really gotten the appeal of minecraft yet
[00:08] <binarymutant> I have
[00:09] <binarymutant> and the ingame circuitry makes it even cooler
[15:02] <average_guy> I would really like an IT career, what certs what any of you reccomend?  I am currently working towards the CCNA.
[15:37] <cyberanger> average_guy: similar boat, CCNA, CompTIA A+ and Network+
[15:38] <cyberanger> Security+ & Linux+ are noteworthy too
[15:38] <cyberanger> some of it kinda depends on your sub category
[15:39] <cyberanger> your preference, voice, security networking
[15:40] <cyberanger> I had Linux+ (didn't renew it) and wound up in a heavy windows background for work, I still don't understand that
[15:41] <cyberanger> I used linux a ton on the backend though, used my own processes with linux when windows lacked an option, wasn't cost effective
[15:42] <cyberanger> or I just had the choice sometimes even
[15:43] <cyberanger> sad to say, startup during this recession, didn't suceed fast enough
[15:43] <cyberanger> one contract short I'd bet
[15:52] <average_guy> cool cyberanger,  my brother is an administrator at a bank and he recommended CCNA and vsphere but the vsphere cert is $4000
[15:52] <average_guy> I was told by someone else that Net+ was a waste of time
[15:55] <cyberanger> CCNA is great if you want networking; however I do throw net+ out there cause it's different focus
[15:56] <average_guy> I'll check it out thx
[15:56] <cyberanger> plus sometimes HR doesn't look up all the funny letters and it shows you know something
[15:56] <average_guy> no doubt lol
[15:56] <cyberanger> it stands out further than not having it
[15:57] <cyberanger> I do think alot of the certs are overserved, i guess
[15:57] <cyberanger> handed out, watered down
[15:57] <average_guy> well mostly I need ones that are inexpencive to obtain
[15:58] <cyberanger> and hence why CCNA stands out, it isn't (yet)
[15:58] <average_guy> I am really good at taking tests
[16:00] <cyberanger> If your looking at only two then, CompTIA A+ & Cisco's CCNA would be the basics of CompTIA (and hence, a little of everything) and CCNA is an intermeditate cert from cisco
[16:00] <cyberanger> once you have a job, they're paid for in a month
[16:02] <cyberanger> reason I say two, knowing your on a budget is deversify
[16:02] <average_guy> no doubt
[16:06] <average_guy> thx for the input
[16:12] <cyberanger> average_guy: no problem, a question I gotta ask myself too
[16:13] <cyberanger> I've decided to take my non it paychecks and use it to go big or go home
[16:13] <cyberanger> get everything I can
[16:14] <cyberanger> not becuase I think it will help, but becuase I want to, and if it helps, even better
[16:37] <binarymutant> ccna is $$$$
[16:38] <average_guy> you can get the CCNA for $150 binarymutant
[16:38] <binarymutant> thats it?
[16:38] <average_guy> thats what I said
[16:38] <binarymutant> :O
[16:38] <average_guy> that is why I am persuing it
[16:39] <average_guy> of course that is just the test
[16:39] <average_guy> if you get a voucher
[16:40] <binarymutant> hm I might do the same if it's only 150. Comptia was 300
[16:45] <binarymutant> does the ccna have prerequirements? or multiple tests?
[16:49] <average_guy> not that I am aware of binarymutant
[16:49] <average_guy> I started with the CCENT prep though
[16:49] <binarymutant> that's super cool
[16:50] <cyberanger> average_guy: can you skip CCENT though, cause if you can't....
[16:50] <average_guy> yea you can but the CCNA covers all of the same material plus more
[16:58] <binarymutant> the A+ was a waste of time though fyi
[16:59] <binarymutant> well for me it was ^
[17:03] <binarymutant> most HR will only deal with 2|4 year degrees. Anyways, gtg bbl