[00:00] <gopher2x> anyone here know how to overclock a eee-pc netboot in ubuntu?
[00:00] <Cosman246> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221576/
[00:00] <gopher2x> err netbook
[00:00] <jrib> Cosman246: run apt-cache policy on each of those packages and remove whatever isn't coming from the repositories you have enabled
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> gopher2x, Use at your own risk. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Using#Overclocking
[00:02] <Cosman246> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221579/
[00:02] <gopher2x> humm ok. not sure how to click the link in console irrsi.. but will type in links2.. thanks
[00:03] <Cosman246> None of them seem to be PPA-derived, jrib
[00:03] <jrib> Cosman246: I like your prompt :x  You see how apt-cache policy lists all of the versions?  It has a *** next to the installed one.  If you only see "100 /var/lib/dpkg/status" under the version with *** and don't see some repository as well, then that means it came from a repository you no longer have enabled.  So you should remove libwebkitgtk-3.0-common
[00:04] <Cosman246> thanks
[00:04] <ubuntoo10> hi, can someone please tell me if it's possible to set the colors of x-terminal-emulator in a file rather than with the gui, and where that file is located?
[00:05] <jrib> ubuntoo10: probably depends on the x-terminal-emulator you are using
[00:05] <ywonuwerk> Hanvon Artmaster AM1209 not recognised in 12.04lts any ideas?
[00:05] <ubuntoo10> jrib: how do i find out which one i am? i simply run x-terminal-emulator
[00:05] <Cosman246> jrib: OK, done that
[00:05] <Cosman246> now what
[00:05] <jrib> ubuntoo10: readlink -f $(which x-terminal-emulator)
[00:06] <jrib> Cosman246: now try installing whatever it was you were originally trying to install
[00:06] <mouad_bgd> 2
[00:06] <Meris> ywonuwerk, do you know which chipset it uses? What does lspci say about it?
[00:06] <ubuntoo10> gnome-terminal, sweet :D thanks
[00:06] <Cosman246> jrib: no change :(
[00:06] <jrib> Cosman246: pastebin
[00:07] <Cosman246> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221587/ jrib
[00:08] <jrib> Cosman246: what happens when you do « sudo apt-get install libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 »?
[00:08] <TJ-> jrib: those package that are held came from the elementarydesktop PPA: http://ppa.launchpad.net/elementaryart/elementarydesktop/ubuntu/pool/main/w/webkitgtk+/
[00:08] <jrib> TJ-: ah
[00:09] <Cosman246> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221590/
[00:09] <TJ-> jrib: maybe there's an elementaryart-desktop meta-package we can get the depends from?
[00:10] <jrib> Cosman246: was this actually an ubuntu install at some point?
[00:10] <Cosman246> ...yes
[00:10] <jrib> Cosman246: and then you added this elementary os ppa?
[00:10] <Cosman246> It started as 11.04. I made a few foolish mistakes then
[00:10] <Cosman246> yeah
[00:10] <Cosman246> Then I upgraded to 11.10
[00:11] <Cosman246> I tried out MATE, saw as it screwed up my setup with Mint tentacles
[00:11] <Cosman246> and moved back
[00:11] <jrib> Cosman246: it might be easier to just enable it again and then try the ppa-purge tool (if you can get it to install :D)
[00:11] <Cosman246> ppa-purge?
[00:11] <jrib> TJ-: that's a good idea, though I think ppa-purge does basically that
[00:12] <ywonuwerk> meris, seems to be amd hudson usb controllers
[00:12] <Cosman246> also, what's ppa-purge?
[00:12] <WeThePeople> cosman246, what do you want to do??
[00:12] <jrib> !info ppa-purge
[00:13] <Cosman246> WeThePeople: save my system, then switch to xubuntu
[00:14] <Cosman246> hm. the elementaryOS thing isn't in the PPAs
[00:14] <Cosman246> at least, it doesn't show in sources.list
[00:14] <jrib> Cosman246: is that one of the PPAs you disabled?
[00:14] <Cosman246> jrib: no, it's not
[00:14] <jrib> Cosman246: well that makes this more interesting :)  Do you remember what you disabled?
[00:15] <ubuntoo10> also, what is the name of the applet that shows your battery life on a laptop ?
[00:15] <rsser> how can I install old version of wine?
[00:15] <Cosman246> MATE and  YaCy were disabled far before
[00:15] <rsser> I'd like to install wine version 1.3
[00:15] <Cosman246> Tor, Emacs24, and Racket were not
[00:15] <Cosman246> I just disabled them
[00:16] <Meris> ywonuwerk, did you look up that controller on the linux hardware DB? Hang on, that is probably the USB hub that your AMT device connects to, not the Hardware ID of the device itself.
[00:16] <jrib> Cosman246: which of those had the webkit packages?
[00:16] <jrib> Cosman246: I'll be back in a bit
[00:16] <TJ-> Cosman246: jrib The 'Packages' file for elementarydesktop Natty PPA: http://ppa.launchpad.net/elementaryart/elementarydesktop/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[00:16] <TJ-> jrib: elementaryartdesktop has webkit and gir
[00:17] <Cosman246> but I never used such a PPA!
[00:17] <jrib> TJ-: oh right, elementary was in his sources.list.d iirc
[00:17] <TJ-> jrib: In /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[00:18] <jrib> Cosman246: if you do: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   you should see some files related to the elementary os ppa
[00:18] <Cosman246> Yeah
[00:18] <TJ-> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221560/
[00:19] <TJ-> jrib: (that's what Cosman246 pasted earlier)
[00:19] <Cosman246> OK, I'm working on it
[00:19] <jrib> Cosman246: I would enable them and then use ppa-purge to disable them again as ppa-purge tries to downgrade packages.  I have to leave for a bit though.  I leave you in TJ-'s capable hands
[00:19] <ywonuwerk> meris, not sure i follow, but looking at ubuntu database now
[00:19]  * TJ- is off to bed! It's 1:20 am
[00:19] <Cosman246> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1221596/
[00:20] <Cosman246> oh crap
[00:21] <Cosman246> TJ-, what's your advice?
[00:23] <jackwu> when the new version is going to be released?
[00:24] <TJ-> Cosman246: Save your data and important configuration files, delete OS and install clean and fresh.
[00:24] <TJ-> ywonuwerk: I saw your Ubuntu Answers question. Have you looked at the driver here? http://linux.fjfi.cvut.cz/~taxman/hw/hanvon/
[00:24] <Cosman246> TJ- OK
[00:25] <TJ-> Cosman246: PPAs can be very dangerous once you start adding them ad-hoc... you depart from the controlled packaging that the Ubuntu archives maintain
[00:26] <AnonChiChenItza> :)
[00:28] <ywonuwerk> cosman246, thanks, yes tried without success. Favux on digimend suggested this was because it id's as Hanwang not Hanvon in lsusb
[00:28] <TJ-> ywonuwerk: Ahhh
[00:28] <zykotick9> jackwu: ubuntu release numbers are the release date so 12.10 will be released 2012 - 10th month
[00:29] <dgsafewright> Does anyone have any personal finance software suggestions? I am running Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS 64 Bit. Ubuntu software center shows wxBanker, KMyMoney, GnuCash, Grisbi, Darhon, and skrooge.
[00:30] <jiffe1> if I have a bunch of servers that are going to be setup very similarly is there an easy way to deploy the software on those servers?
[00:31] <this_> can anyone tell me how long gparted will take to resize a 440gb ext3 partition to 160gb? It's been about 90 mins and its still working
[00:31] <TJ-> ywonuwerk: I just fetched that hanvon driver source-code. It claims to support the USB ID of your tablet
[00:31] <Meris> jiffe1, if they have the same hardware, you might consider cloning them and adjust the hostname afterwards
[00:32] <TJ-> ywonuwerk: After you built that driver, and modprobe-d it, did you monitor /var/log/kern.log when plugging the tablet in to see what the driver reports?
[00:33] <Meris> ywonuwerk, hint: try sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log
[00:33] <TJ-> jiffe1: Create a virtual machine on a *raw* file, install the image into it, then 'dd' the image to each server?
[00:33] <TJ-> Meris: I'm not clear if the driver was built yet
[00:34] <kostkon> dgsafewright, check also moneydance http://moneydance.com/ (although it's not free) and homebank
[00:35] <ywonuwerk> tj, not sure now as i've tried various versions of that driver and got no response from it. did not monitor kern.log tho. what should i see?
[00:35] <dgsafewright> thank you kostkon
[00:35] <kostkon> dgsafewright, you can download a trial version of moneydance if you want to check it out
[00:37] <TJ-> ywonuwerk: I'd expect to see at least the driver name and version.
[00:39] <TJ-> ywonuwerk: you'd probably need to enable some enhanced usb sub-system debug messages, but the code is written to recognise the USB ID of your device
[00:39] <jiffe1> I was thinking of something like a configuation manager
[00:40] <ywonuwerk> tj: you're going in over my experience level, i'm new at this
[00:43] <briup> 大家好
[00:47] <Tsavo> SSH into a somewhat fresh install of Xubuntu (12.04.1) suddenly having the Connection closed. -v flag reveals: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1213903/  usual fixes involving /etc/hosts aren't working
[00:47] <zodiak> anyone got any xen 4.2 ppa/packages ?
[00:49] <Uh> Hi, can someone take a look at this, and tell me what it means? http://i.imgur.com/PFOo8.jpg
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> zodiak, The channel works as state your problems. ;)
[00:50] <zodiak> wilee-nilee, got it.. problem (I guess) is I can't/don't know where to find xen 4.2 packages/ppa ;)
[00:50] <zodiak> searched launchpad and google.. hoping I missed something
[00:50] <LeChacal2> hello all, does anyone have advice on what filesystem I should used on a storage drive that is going to be inside of an ubuntu server and accesed through samba as well as other linux boxes? ext4? ntfs?
[00:51] <Maksim> I had the same error last week
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> zodiak, here is a ppa with 4.2 and 4.3 https://launchpad.net/~xtaran/+archive/xen-tools/
[00:51] <zodiak> wilee-nilee, ah, sadly, xen-tools != xen
[00:52] <zodiak> think the difference between rc.d scripts and kernel
[00:53] <zykotick9> LeChacal2: samba is a lame choice if you only have gnu/linux clients (not so bad if you have windows clients).  BUT filesystem shouldn't matter for samba/nfs.
[00:53] <NFisher> hi all! how can i play shuffle all contents of all subdirectories from 1 folder in mplayer command line?!?!
[00:53] <zodiak> thanks for the thought though
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> zodiak, hehe I don't really need to but thanks, just trying to point you if possible to the right source.
[00:53] <Uh> Hi, can someone take a look at this, and tell me what it means? http://i.imgur.com/PFOo8.jpg
[00:54] <zodiak> Uh telepathy borked majorly
[00:54] <Uh> what is that?
[00:54] <Uh> How can I fix it?
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> Uh, Multiple bugs it looks like find yours if it applies. https://www.google.com/search?q=telepathy-idle+12.04&btnG=Search&sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=webhp
[00:55] <LeChacal2> zykotick9, thank you for the input
[00:55] <meditatingfrog> Uh: i use pidgin.  you could file a bug report
[00:55] <Uh> But I don't know which bug, and I don't know why it crashed
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> Uh, Try using the report option on the gui you posted.
[00:56] <Uh> oki
[00:56] <Uh> sent
[00:57] <Uh> Is it anything to worry about?
[00:57] <Uh> Or can I safely ignore it
[00:58] <f1ccc> google earth witch ubuntu 12.04 ?
[00:58] <MrHacks> Does anyone know of a package that allows me to view my CPU core temperature?  I'm currently running a netbook without a fan and I need to know how hot is too hot for compy
[00:58] <zodiak> MrHacks, lm_sensors should do that
[00:59] <Uh> Can I safely ignore telepathy errors?
[00:59] <MrHacks> http://pic.twitter.com/cSBbPzQv
[00:59] <adoniscik> how can one list files in all subdirectories without separating them by folder?
[00:59] <zodiak> Uh do you ~use~ telepathy at all ?
[00:59]  * MrHacks can  read your mind
[00:59] <Uh> I don't know what telepathy is.
[00:59] <MrHacks> -_-
[00:59] <zodiak> Uh then yeah, ignore it
[01:00] <Uh> What is it?
[01:00] <zodiak> or be nice and report it
[01:00] <Uh> I reported it also
[01:00] <Uh> I'm just curious now
[01:00] <zodiak> don't make me invoke google on you
[01:00] <f1ccc> google earth witch ubuntu 12.04 ?
[01:01] <Uh> Does it have anything to do with Empathy? Because I do use that.
[01:01] <adoniscik> in one flat list
[01:01] <Uh> First Google link said Empathy
[01:01] <f1ccc> i'ts possible reponse !!!
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> f1ccc, Can you translate what you want.
[01:02] <MrHacks> who said lm_sensors?
[01:03] <zodiak> MrHacks, me
[01:03] <MrHacks> There doesn't seem to be a package for that. Do you know the package it belongs in, zodiak ?
[01:03] <zodiak> MrHacks, try lm-sensors
[01:03] <zodiak> sudo apt-cache search sensors | grep -i lm
[01:04] <alusion> Dear ubuntu, I am a power user who likes to do many things at once. When I browse the internet, 50-100 tabs open on my machines is normal. How can I manage my tabs easier or workspaces? I have gnome-shell 3.4 ubuntu 12.04 thanks
[01:04] <MrHacks> got it. s/_/-/
[01:04] <zodiak> alusion, use the workspaces, have chrome running with certain amount of tabs in each screen
[01:04] <WeThePeople> alusion, how do you want to manage them?
[01:04] <zodiak> or use firefox and the groups that they put in a while back
[01:05] <zodiak> MrHacks, after it's installed, run sensors-detect (answer 'yes' to everything really ;)
[01:05] <alusion> How do I envoke workspaces? Should I manage different profiles as well perhaps? I will upload a screenshot of my current workstation
[01:05] <effigy> is there an easier way to install java into firefox?
[01:05] <zodiak> then you can jst run sensors from the command line or get one of those fancy gui's or..whatever
[01:06] <MrHacks> zodiak: tyvm
[01:06] <WeThePeople> alusion, do you have a dock?
[01:06] <zodiak> MrHacks, np
[01:07] <f1ccc> my ubuntu12.04 ,request terminalfor enter google earth??  why
[01:07] <alusion> WeThePeople, yes I do. I use cario dock. One moment, I am wondering if there's a way to use workspaces with gnome-shell environment, I am also looking to use compiz
[01:07] <alusion> Perhaps I'll make a second profile..
[01:07] <MrHacks> Meanwhiile, I would like to announce a boycott on lens and scope packages.  Starting in 12.10 Canonical says they are going to insert Amazon ads into stuff. So so much for FOSS.
[01:07] <zodiak> f1ccc, what ? repeat in english please ?
[01:08] <zodiak> MrHacks, well, it's still -free- .. unless you are paying for it
[01:08] <f1ccc> request : sudo or other command !!!! is bordela
[01:08] <zodiak> jst stick with xfce and forget gnome ;)
[01:09] <adoniscik> how can one list files in all subdirectories without separating them by folder?
[01:10] <h6sidhu> for some reason ImageField doesn't get validated for me but FileField does. The error I get from the form is "This field is required". The file is a jpeg file.
[01:10] <h6sidhu> What could be the problem?
[01:10] <sunil__> hello all
[01:11] <sunil__> any one help me ....... i am not able to open any program from terminal
[01:11] <sunil__> pls help me
[01:11] <zodiak> adoniscik, find ./ -type f
[01:11] <cromag> sunil__: what have you tried, and what happens
[01:11] <zodiak> sunil__, what do you mean open any program ? can you run command line items such as ls ?
[01:11] <sunil__> yes
[01:11] <adoniscik> zodiak: how can you sort the results?
[01:12] <sunil__> google-chrome
[01:12] <f1ccc> my question: i'ts possible google earth witch ubuntu 12.04 ?
[01:12] <zodiak> adoniscik, urm.. by using sort ?
[01:12] <h6sidhu> f1ccc: i dont understand your english
[01:12] <zodiak> h6sidhu, snap
[01:12] <adoniscik> can you show me show? let's sort by date
[01:13] <h6sidhu> zodiak, snap?
[01:13] <sunil__> it says command not found
[01:13] <f1ccc> so long ...bye
[01:13] <zodiak> h6sidhu, can't understand his/her english
[01:13] <cromag> sunil__: what command ?
[01:13] <sunil__> google-chrome
[01:14] <cromag> that is most likely also incorrect.
[01:14] <sunil__> i m trying to open google chrome from terminal
[01:14] <Piers> i thought it was just chrome
[01:14] <cromag> chromium ?
[01:14] <cromag> or chrome
[01:14] <sunil__> yea
[01:14] <sunil__> tried every thing
[01:14] <sunil__> actually i m not able to open any program from terminal
[01:15] <cromag> does /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome --enable-plugins work ?
[01:15] <Piers> well you were able to run irssi right?
[01:15] <adoniscik> find does not list the date so I do not understand how sort can work. I appreciate your help
[01:16] <escott> adoniscik, somewhere in the find manual it should mention how to print the date as well as the filename
[01:16] <zodiak> adoniscik, you never mentioned by date
[01:16] <zodiak> until as the addition, but yes, you have to print out the date and then use sort on that column
[01:16] <sunil__> no it says no such dir
[01:16] <adoniscik> is it possible to use ls?
[01:17] <sunil__> chromels
[01:17] <sunil__> yes
[01:17] <sunil__> ls is working
[01:17] <escott> !who | adoniscik, you are confusing sunil__
[01:17] <cromag> sunil__: what works?
[01:18] <cromag> oh
[01:18] <sunil__> ls works @cromag
[01:18] <cromag> sunil__: can you start it from the menu ?
[01:18] <zodiak> adoniscik, I would probably pipe the find into awk
[01:18] <adoniscik> zodiak, is it possible to use ls?
[01:18] <escott> adoniscik, some shells support ls **/* syntax or ls */* syntax but not all
[01:19] <sunil__> yes @cromag i can start. but i want to open programe with terminal
[01:19] <rsser> how could I install the framework 4 on ubuntu? it is missing its libraries!
[01:19] <cromag> i understand, but start the program from the menu
[01:19] <zodiak> adoniscik, not jst ls on it's on, no, I don't believe so
[01:19] <cromag> then in the terminal do ps aux|grep chro
[01:19] <cromag> you should then get some paths
[01:20] <cromag> maybe usefull
[01:21] <sunil__> oooh thaks i guesss i will fix it now
[01:21] <sunil__> @cromag
[01:21] <cromag> np
[01:21] <f1ccc> sudo apt-no-h6s i dhu       ah ah ah  understand  english
[01:22] <ring2> f1ccc, what do you want?
[01:23] <cromag> sunil__: got it fixed ?
[01:24] <MrHacks> At any rate, if nobody wants to be sold as products, sudo dpkg --list | gawk '/lens|scope/{print $2}' | xargs sudo apt-get remove -y
[01:26] <Ray2> I am trying 12.04 from a live cd with unity...I would like to try gnome-shell..downloaded and installed ...when I click the icon it only blinks ??
[01:26] <Cache_Money> I have a Win7 laptop w/ dual-boot Ubuntu (40G partition).  I'd like to get rid of the Win7 partition and add the partition into the currunt Ubuntu partion. Is this possible?
[01:27] <xangua> Ray2: if you wanna try gnome-shell on live cd try any of the distros that it comes with gnome3.org
[01:27] <escott> Cache_Money, yes, but you can only grow/move the ubuntu partition from the livecd
[01:27] <xangua> Ray2: you can also install gnome shell on Ubuntu once you install it
[01:29] <Cache_Money> escott: is that the easiest solution or should I erase Windows and install Ubuntu on top of that (leaving 40G free)?
[01:29] <Ray2> xangua, If I install then I will have to select gnome-shell at login
[01:30] <xangua> Ray2: if you install ubuntu, you will need to install gnome-shell after to select it at the login screen
[01:30] <ring2> it is possible to just install gnome-shell after booting the live-cd. after logging out, gnome-shell is available as session
[01:30] <Ray2> xangua, Thanks for the info
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> ring2, a live cd wont save any sessons
[01:33] <ring2> wilee-nilee, if you reboot, it doesn't save anything, sure. but if you just log out, you can select a different session
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> ring2, true you can probably install gnome-shell it is just a few more packages, use a usb with persistence maybe.
[01:36] <ring2> wilee-nilee, i know it's working, but i don't need it. the info was for Ray2 ;)
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> ring2, sorry about that I'm messing with 2 computers, not paying attention really my bad.
[01:38] <ring2> wilee-nilee, no problem
[01:38] <james__> is it possible to boot ubuntu without a bootloader installed? like maybe from usb key?
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> james__, yes and manually, why?
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> bootloader in the mbr though, you need grub
[01:39] <james__> wilee-nilee, grub failed to install, i assume its because my laptop uses uefi so now that the system is installed, ill just use a usb drive to boot into it from now on
[01:40] <ironfoot495> hello can someone help me find the problem with suphp cause a 500 error???
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> james__Ah uefi this a dual boot with another OS?
[01:40] <melkor> okay, my hard drive has lost the ext4 partition again. Is this a hardware failure or is it software?
[01:41] <rsser> how to solve this error ==> http://postimage.org/image/a9mm8woch/
[01:41] <james__> wilee-nilee, i would like to dual boot but with linux on the internal hard drive and windows on a usb hard drive
[01:42] <MrHacks> zodiak: you still here? I installed lm-sensors, ran the sensors-detect and restarted the modules-init-tools service. How do I get the CPU temperature?
[01:42] <xangua> !appdb | rsser
[01:43] <ring1> MrHacks, run sensors
[01:43] <zodiak> MrHacks, sensors
[01:43] <MrHacks> thanks, ring1, zodiak
[01:43] <zodiak> np
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> james__, Which windows I don't think it will run continuously on a usb.
[01:44] <graingert> james__: you'll need windows 8 Enterprise for external drive boot
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> MS does not like that W8 might be the only one that will.
[01:45] <graingert> wilee-nilee: + enterprise only
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> otay
[01:46] <james__> wilee-nilee, windows 7 is what im planning booting from an external usb 3 hard drive haha
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> in the words of eddie murphy playing buckwheat
[01:46] <MrHacks> who shot buckwheat?
[01:48] <THE_GFR|WORK> MrHacks: me :P
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> james__, You ever try the ubuntu forums with this dual boot thought on the internal HD?
[01:49] <MrHacks> Anyone know how I can get a textual readout of battery information?  For running linux in a pure text environment in something like tmux?
[01:49] <MrHacks> THE_GFR|WORK: I will avenge his fans and family by making a holographic buckwheat!
[01:50] <james__> wilee-nilee, no i havent, i assumed that it could be done, i want to do it for gaming only and use linux on the internal drive for my daily work
[01:50] <MrHacks> He can kick holo-2pac and holo-Biggie's ass with holo-Kurt Cobain's shotgun!
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> james__, Try the forums, your assumptions are not working. I think there are problems with windows in a uefi and running ubuntu, not sure really, I have not had to mess with a uefi.
[01:51] <brainysm1rf> Just wondering if anyone can think of any reason why you cannot ping a server but can access its resources. I haven't turned off ping.
[01:52] <escott> Cache_Money, if windows is after ubuntu a grow is very fast. if windows is before ubuntu then you have to move the entire ubuntu partition first which can take a long time
[01:52] <ring1> MrHacks, maybe acpi -V
[01:52] <Cache_Money> escott: windows is before
[01:53] <james__> wilee-nilee, ok, im not really concerned with windows, i just need to have linux boot normally
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> james__, Is this a computer that has to have uefi?
[01:54] <james__> yes
[01:54] <james__> wilee-nilee, actually, i think so
[01:54] <james__> wilee-nilee, i dont see any options on turning it off
[01:54] <ring1> MrHacks, you could browse /proc/acpi/ and then cat the corresponding file
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> james__, Post your setup on the forums and relax for some help if you do not get it here.
[01:56] <Techie-Micheal> Hi. I've got a 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04 server that is having weird load issues. It seems that when I log in, my load starts climbing and will generally sit at .4 or higher on the 5 min average when it is doing nothing. I've not yet deployed my apps to this server, I'm still setting it up. However, when I log out and log in after a bit, my 5 min avg load is at 0.00 and will then start climbing. What
[01:56] <Techie-Micheal> can I look for to figure out what's going on? top/ntop give me nothing useful. vmstat doesn't show any waiting.
[01:56] <Techie-Micheal> I can't seem to figure out what's going on.
[01:56] <james__> wilee-nilee, ok, i think for now i will see if i can get a thumbdrive to act as my bootloader for linux until this uefi can be sorted out
[01:56] <brainysm1rf> Tichie-Michael ps aux
[01:56] <zodiak> Techie-Micheal, login .. leave htop runninbg
[01:57] <Techie-Micheal> brainysm1rf: Okay, one sec. I'll paste it in to paste.ubuntu.
[01:57] <zodiak> urm.. I don't think that's going to be much use..
[01:58] <zodiak> you are reporting a growing trend, a snapshot of ps auxfw won't do much
[01:58] <maxflax> strange thing.. my computer wont start but I can log into it with ssh.. but I see nothing in the dmesg logs and so on.. but I can clearly see on the tv that its trying to start up
[01:58] <zodiak> htop and leave it running
[01:58] <Techie-Micheal> zodiak: Okay.
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> james__, I would just use supergrub on the thumb.
[01:58] <zodiak> maxflax, basically your video output isn't reaching the tv.. probably it can't get the resolutions for X from the tv
[01:59] <Techie-Micheal> zodiak: Right now my load is 0.00 0.01 0.05. It generally starts climbing pretty soon here.
[01:59] <brainysm1rf> ps aux | head has told me what processes were running hot in the past
[01:59] <zodiak> Techie-Micheal, well.. look at the top of htop .. you will see things bubbling up
[02:00] <james__> wilee-nilee, thanks for the help, i will look into supergrub
[02:00] <rgenito> join #bitcoin-otc
[02:01] <maxflax> zodiak: it's something else aswell... but I can't see crap in the logs.. very frustrating
[02:01] <zodiak> maxflax, well, if the x server can't get resolutions, you would ONLY see it in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or whatever)
[02:02] <rgenito> does anyone here mount encrypted HFS+ dmg images?
[02:02] <ktklam9> hi, why does Rhythmbox keep messing up my ID3 tags for my mp3 files? Even after I manually corrected them?
[02:03] <zodiak> ktklam9, no idea.. I use quod libet
[02:04] <zodiak> much (MUCH) faster on my 80gb+ music
[02:04] <Guest93525> I can't seem to install linux on my desktop co-existing with windows xp
[02:04] <maxflax> zodiak: have looked in Xorg log file.. what should I be looking for telling me it's like your stating?
[02:04] <Guest93525> it only gives me the option to replace windows xp completely
[02:04] <zodiak> maxflax, fling it up on pastie or pastebot or.. someplace
[02:05] <ktklam9> my ID3 tags are still messed up even after I uninstalled Rhythmbox??? How can I stop Ubuntu from trying to fix ID3 tags of my mp3 files? It does a really bad a job at it!
[02:05] <arooni-mobile> is there a way to monitor fan speed on ubuntu 12.04 64bit?
[02:05] <ring2> rgenito, what's your problem? mounting?
[02:05] <rgenito> yes, trying to mount an aes256 disk image
[02:05] <zodiak> ktklam9, seriously, jst ignore rhythmbox
[02:06] <zodiak> arooni-mobile, lm-sensors tells you fan speed (if it can)
[02:06] <xangua> i've had having a lot of chashes in firefox 15 (starting with it) lately, every time i want to enter it's preferences or even change the buttons with edit>customize firefox just closes up; i even deleted my profile and create a new one...keeps crashing
[02:06] <ktklam9> zodiak: I uninstalled rhythmbox and my ID3 are still messed up
[02:06] <rgenito> ring2, i get the error "ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument"
[02:06] <zodiak> ktklam9, STOP USING IT
[02:06] <ktklam9> zodiak: I uninstalled it? So how can I be using it?
[02:06] <zodiak> your id3 are now 'messed up'
[02:06] <rgenito> http://pastie.org/private/y6ncdiezuumbjylq0l50ua
[02:06] <zodiak> it's not something the program does that's revertable
[02:07] <arooni-mobile> zodiak, how do i use that?
[02:07] <superfake123> my sound control thing in the top right of the window doesn't seem to be working anymore how do I reset it?
[02:07] <ktklam9> zodiak: then how am I supposed to organize my mp3 files?
[02:07] <maxflax> zodiak: here is the log http://pastebin.com/q95xv0aH
[02:07] <zodiak> arooni-mobile, apt-get install lm-sensors, run sensors-detect (answer yes to jst about everything), then run sensors
[02:07] <zodiak> ktklam9, urm.. by directories and using a good client ?
[02:08] <zodiak> maxflax, danke.. let me take a look see
[02:09] <ktklam9> zodiak: the problem is I am transfering those mp3 to my android phone too, which uses ID3 to organize them
[02:09] <arooni-mobile> zodiak, looks liek: fan1:        3395 RPM... looks helathy huh
[02:09] <ktklam9> zodiak: the name of the songs and the artists are all messed up when I transfer them
[02:09] <ring2> rgenito, do you have loop-aes-utils installed?
[02:09] <zodiak> arooni-mobile, looks like it
[02:09] <rgenito> no i do not... but now i shall install it....
[02:10] <rgenito> i wish there was a way to automatically create a directory when mounting to a new directory that doesn't exist.... is there a way?
[02:10] <zodiak> maxflax, I am curious.. if you boot using a live cd/iso .. do you get a picture ?
[02:10] <rgenito> ring2, awesome btw... that helped. but now i get "password must be at least 20 characters" @_@
[02:11] <zodiak> maxflax, did you also terminate the X server perchance in that logfile or is the machine still running ?
[02:11] <ooha> does anyone use thinkpad t430s here?
[02:11] <maxflax> zodiak: it's running
[02:11] <zykotick9> ktklam9: fyi there are different version of ID3 tags, i'd recommend seeing them in easytag.
[02:11] <GNS3Talk> Hi everyone, does anybody know the command used to start the built-in 'vino-server' in 12.04?
[02:11] <zodiak> maxflax, then google that last line ; ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log
[02:11] <ring2> rgenito, i think, you always have to create the directory first. i could be wrong
[02:11] <zodiak> nothing good comes up I am afraid :(
[02:12] <ring2> rgenito, sorry, i don't know about the password error
[02:12] <zodiak> maxflax, I would try a live cd/iso of ubuntu next, as that defaults to REALLY very safe defaults
[02:12] <rgenito> ring2, ah ok...that's what i figured. anyhoo, i'm still unable to mount... need to dig deeper. ty for that suggestion
[02:12] <ring2> rgenito, is your password >20 characters?
[02:13] <GNS3Talk> Hi everyone, does anybody know the command used to start the built-in 'vino-server' in 12.04?
[02:15] <maxflax> zodiak: Got this problem after a update i did before.. rebooted and this happend. Wondering if it has something to do with me having a autologin program running.. can't remember what the name was though
[02:15] <superfake123> my sound control volume thing in the top right of the window doesn't seem to be working anymore how do I reset it?
[02:15] <zodiak> aaahhh.. so. this is a self-inflicted pain eh ? :)
[02:16] <zodiak> brb.. coffee
[02:17] <Nautilus> My desktop shows only the background image, nothing else.  12.04 logged in via NX.  It -was- working before I applied the 296 (396?) pending updates.  How to diagnose & fix this?
[02:17] <ring2> rgenito, as i read, loop-aes really requires at least 20 characters. doesn't seem to have a workaround :(
[02:18] <rgenito> ring2, damn, that sucks... because my password is not 20 characters :(
[02:18] <zodiak> Nautilus, nx ?
[02:18] <Nautilus> zodiak: nomachine.com, a remote access desktop.  Worked great in 10.04 anyways
[02:18] <pootytooty> hi
[02:18] <zodiak> Nautilus, does it work when you login normaly or is nomachine some kind of 'you don't own the computer' service ?
[02:19] <ring2> rgenito, if you find a workaround, let me know .)
[02:19] <rgenito> ring2 do you also have encrypted dmg's? :)
[02:19] <Nautilus> when I log into the box locally the desktop is there.  NX is a client/server app installed on both machines
[02:19] <rgenito> if i find a work around... i'm gunna post it online too haha
[02:20] <ring2> rgenito, no, i don't. i'm just curious :)
[02:20] <mack_> what about the topic?
[02:20] <pootytooty> i have some updates and my boot partition is quite full. im running 12.04 without synaptic and i can see that i have quite a number of old linux images on my 250mb boot partition. how do i get rid of them? sudo apt-get clean does not do the trick. Also is there a way to configure 12.04 such that it only keeps the current image and the previous rather than keeping many?
[02:21] <Nautilus> zodiak: when I log into the box locally the desktop is there.  NX is a client/server app installed on both machines
[02:24] <zodiak> Nautilus, sounds like a 'nx' problem then.. not much we can do :\
[02:25] <Nautilus> i suspect its rooted in compiz
[02:26] <zodiak> Nautilus, if that's true, try using lxde
[02:27] <DeltaHeavy> Does anybody else find Unity to be less responsive than other DE's you've tried in the past?
[02:27] <zodiak> DeltaHeavy, good gods yes. this is why I have been (and am eternally grateful) to have been using xfce since 10.04 :)
[02:27] <MrGizmo757> unity works fine for me
[02:28] <MrGizmo757> one of my usb sticks wont automount.  dose anybody know how to fix it?
[02:28] <lmbeta8> DeltaHeavy Unity as always seemed bloated to me
[02:29] <DeltaHeavy> Glad it's not just me. Between this and the Amazon sell out I think I'm not going to even consider Ubuntu again.
[02:29] <zodiak> MrGizmo757, check logs, probably a usb bus detection error. I get those randomly on certain machinse
[02:29] <zodiak> DeltaHeavy, meh.. you are assuming all ubuntu's are the same
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> !cookie | imbezol for the use of bloated
[02:29] <kyubotsu> !poll
[02:29] <zodiak> *cough*xubuntu*cough*
[02:29] <DeltaHeavy> zodiak: Have you seen the Amazon sellout?
[02:29] <xangua> !ot | DeltaHeavy zodiak
[02:30] <MrGizmo757> its only the one USB though.  all the others ones i have work fine. i think its an issue with how its formatted
[02:30] <zodiak> yeah.. scroll up .. I have been helping
[02:30] <zodiak> MrGizmo757, check the logs, seriously! there is usually a tonne of useful stuff in there
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> MrGizmo757, Does it show in the disk manger gparted or on running sudo fdosk -l
[02:31] <zodiak> if ubuntu can't find the filesystem, it will say unrecognised ;)
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> ops sudo fdisk -l
[02:31] <MrGizmo757> yes. it shows up just fine. but i have to manually mount it every time.
[02:31] <MrGizmo757> it wont automount like the rest of my usb sticks
[02:31] <locoguano> I love you, Ubuntu. That is all.
[02:31] <kyubotsu> MrGizmo757: tried using a different port ?
[02:31] <xangua> does someone have problems with firefox¿ i've had a lot of crashes lately starting with frefox 15.0.1, everytime i open preferences, edit the toolbar or even just open iot and after 10 seconds it closes; i even tried to delete my firefox profile directory and start fresh; the chashes returned after a couple of days
[02:32] <MrGizmo757> yes. this started after i formated it using the disk utility.
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> MrGizmo757, Please use nicks, what did you format it as.
[02:32] <MrGizmo757> its been messed up ever since. i have reformated it using gparted but that didnt take care of the plablem
[02:32] <effigy> ughh anyone know anything bout putting mp3's onto an apple product? i've been trying everything on google for like 2 hours. in banshee everything looks like it's working... takes time to transfer, shows up on the ipad in banshee and all that, and then i undock it and the files are not on my ipad.
[02:33] <MrGizmo757> it was FAT 32  MBR
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> !who > MrGizmo757
[02:33] <pepperjack> effigy: depending on the app youre using there is might be a 'commit' or 'save' or something menu option you have to do
[02:34] <Nautilus> zodiak: lxde looks interesting, any comparison to kde?
[02:34] <zodiak> Nautilus, none at all. much lighter, simpler, runs amazingly quick. doesn't use compiz I believe
[02:35] <xangua> can't even start in safe mode in firefox :(
[02:35] <Katronix> Hi all, for apache is there an easy way to allow it to have access to the user directories?
[02:35] <zodiak> Katronix, mod_userdir
[02:35] <Katronix> zodiak thanks
[02:35] <Nautilus> zodiak: is that what xubuntu is then? ubunto+lxde?
[02:35] <zodiak> I think you could even get away with a2enmod mod_userdir
[02:36] <lmbeta8> DeltaHeavy:It takes alot ressource to put distro  out for free and they make something out of it as a company. No money no new ubuntu releases
[02:36] <zodiak> Nautilus, xubuntu is ubuntu but running xfce (or lxde, I think both are on the same iso these days)
[02:36] <uhgreen> Xubuntu = Ubuntu + Xfce, right?
[02:36] <kyubotsu> Nautilus: xfce
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> uhgreen, nope
[02:36] <Nautilus> gotcha
[02:36] <DeltaHeavy> lmbeta8: The information gathering isn't something I'd want though, so I simply won't use it.
[02:37] <kyubotsu> Nautilus: lubuntu has lxde as gui
[02:37] <zamn_> hey i just recently switched to gnome-shell as my de and whenever i maximize an application it doesn't actually maximize. Is there any way to fix this?
[02:37] <Nautilus> 'k
[02:37] <Hawk220> I'm new, so I'm not sure if I'm messing up some protocol, but I really need help. Is this where i should ask, or is there another channel for that?
[02:38] <lmbeta8> DeltaHeavy:They will provide a way to turn it off but understand your point
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> uhgreen, xfce is just xfce, it is a full desktop without ubuntu or xubuntu
[02:38] <kyubotsu> !ask | Hawk220
[02:39] <Nautilus> is there any advantage from 10.04 to 12.04 for me, where I just use the box as a LAMP stack for web dev?  Want to get into using a php debugger and sass next.
[02:39] <DeltaHeavy> lmbeta8: Plus with the 1000 other options I have, why pick one that's shoving advertisements down my throat right?
[02:39] <c|oneman> in top, how do I display the full USER (not truncated)
[02:39] <kyubotsu> Nautilus: that's up to you.
[02:40] <Hawk220> Okay. Some how my <ALT> key is stuck on. To do anything, I have to hold the button down. I can't click without holding it, nothing. If I don't, it acts like it normally would without the button being held. I'm sure I did something wrong.
[02:40] <Nautilus> kyubotsu: just wondering if I lose anything going back to 10.04
[02:40] <Katronix> zodiak great now to just figure out what perms I need to give the public_html directory
[02:41] <zodiak> Katronix, np :)
[02:41] <xangua> Nautilus: 10.04 only have 7 more months of support
[02:41] <Nautilus> dont think i need it
[02:42] <lmbeta8> DeltaHeavy:Your 100% right
[02:43] <kyubotsu> Hawk220: try re-plugging it ; also, is it clean? dirt can cause malfunctions too
[02:43] <Nautilus> zang: installing updates for 12.04 is what broke it for me
[02:43] <Nautilus> xangua: ^
[02:44] <Hawk220> I might not have explained well enough. It's not the key, itself. I have to hold the key down to do almost anything. To click a link, I have to hold the <ALT> key, right click and new tab it. If I just try and click it, it grabs the window and tries to move.
[02:47] <Hawk220> Somewhere along the line, my <ALT> off and the <ALT> on have gotten switched, if that makes any sense.
[02:48] <pepperjack> Hawk220: dunno.  you could try disabling the alt key in the window manager config. I know thats not ideal...
[02:49] <pepperjack> Hawk220: do you want to know how to do that?
[02:49] <Hawk220> Pepperjack: No. I do not.
[02:49] <fenix79> not
[02:51] <moi> "/dns <fenix79>
[02:51] <lmbeta8> DeltaHeavy:Pinguy  & LinuxMint are 2 of my favorite ubuntu based distro
[02:52] <pepperjack> ok then. if it were me I'd want to stop the wm from capturing alt at least temporarily
[02:52] <Nautilus> i'd try turning it off then back on again
[02:53] <Hawk220> Nautilus: Did that a few times
[02:53] <Nautilus> 10-4
[02:53] <Hawk220> Pepperjack: How do I disable the key?
[02:54] <Nautilus> oh, i meant the alt key not the system
[02:54] <Hawk220> Okay. How do I do that? Sadly, I am a new user and am not that use to Ubuntu.
[02:55] <Nautilus> Hawk220: I dont know either, have to ask pepperjack
[02:55] <Hawk220> ;-) Gotchya.
[02:56] <Hawk220> 1510 people, and only Pepperjack knows how to disable a key?
[02:57] <Nautilus> the only one that said he knew how ;)
[02:57] <pepperjack> Hawk220: you'll want to install compizconfig-settings-manager.  sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:57] <pepperjack> then you run ccsm to launch it
[02:57] <ulkesh> Google is one's friend, Hawk220:  https://www.google.com/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=10&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ubuntu+disable+key
[02:58] <pepperjack> its a gui tool so you just click the mapped alt key in it and disable it.  if you can type without needing to hold down alt (you dont get a bunch of garbage) then it might just be a window manager problem
[02:58] <Hawk220> Installing now. Thank you.
[02:59] <pepperjack> Hawk220: thats an odd problem :)  not seen it before
[02:59] <Hawk220> I only have the odd ones.
[02:59] <Nautilus> i know how that feels
[03:04] <Nautilus> what would be the most suitable way to install lxde?  apt-get?   like this?:   sudo apt-get install lxde
[03:05] <OerHeks> Nautilus, check softwarecentre, install lubuntu i guess
[03:05] <ring2> Nautilus, i would try lubuntu-desktop instead of lxde
[03:05] <kyubotsu> Nautilus: i'd use software center.. one click install from there
[03:06] <kyubotsu> doing it the console way then it'd be lubuntu-desktop, not simply lxde
[03:06] <Hawk220> Pepperjack, If you were here, and a female, I'd kiss you.
[03:06] <kyubotsu> tmi
[03:07] <OerHeks> pepperjack, go there, be female
[03:07] <Nautilus> if I do the lubuntu-desktop, am I still able to switch back to unity?
[03:07] <Hawk220> "Initiate Window Move" was set to Button1. Once I restored it to default, everything was all better.
[03:08] <OerHeks> Nautilus sure, just change DM at login
[03:08] <G_chaa> How can I make a completely new GRUB install?  The one I have on my new hard drive seems to be the same one as on my old hard drive; which is no longer relevant on the GUID partition identifier level.
[03:08] <Nautilus> ty
[03:09] <kyubotsu> G_chaa: run update-grub
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> G_chaa, Can you run sudo update-grub from the desktop
[03:09] <G_chaa> I've tried booting into a Xubuntu live CD and running `sudo grub-install` from there, but I keep ending up with the same
[03:09] <G_chaa> ok I'll try `update-grub`
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> G_chaa, Can you boot to the desktop, you have to chroot in to install grub
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> from the cd
[03:10] <G_chaa> ok I'll chroot into the new HDD
[03:10] <G_chaa> and do it from there
[03:10] <kyubotsu> i think update-grub will do the trick tho
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> kyubotsu, not from a live cd
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> without a chroot
[03:10] <kyubotsu> live cd.. copy that..
[03:11] <G_chaa> "Cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied"
[03:11] <G_chaa> this is after mounting the new HDD and chrooting into it
[03:11] <G_chaa> and running `update-grub`
[03:11] <Hawk220> Thank you all, for the advise and the company. I hope you all have a lovely evening.
[03:11] <G_chaa> I'm assuming something's trying to write its output to /dev/null.  What am I missing here?
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> G_chaa, you need to install grub to the mbr
[03:12] <G_chaa> GRUB is already in the MBR
[03:12] <G_chaa> it just has outdated information pertaining to my old hard drive
[03:12] <TheMadDrizzle> Can anyone help me with a bit of a sega genesis emulator problem on linux?
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> G_chaa, put it in from the cd then reboot
[03:13] <TheMadDrizzle> The genesis emulator Gens will not pick up the LEFT analog button from my Saitek p990 gamepad.   The ONLY button it will not register for some reason, anyone know hy?
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> run update-grub from the desktop of the reboot G_chaa
[03:13] <TheMadDrizzle> *why?
[03:13] <G_chaa> I've done that twice already by running `grub-install --root-directory=/dev/(the guid of my new hdd) /dev/sda
[03:14] <G_chaa> and I did check the device letter
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> G_chaa, In a chroot it is grub-install /dev/sdX
[03:14] <G_chaa> I'll try your advice again wilee-nilee, thanks
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> G_chaa, the mount and the command you ran should load it but that is not a chroot so a update wont work from there.
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> although the guid I have never seen used.
[03:16] <kyubotsu> what puzzles me is: how is grub from a different drive in this other one anyway..
[03:16] <G_chaa> wilee-nilee: I don't have my storage devices in my chroot
[03:16]  * kyubotsu ponders
[03:16] <G_chaa> how can I tell chroot to make the devices from the "real world" accessible from inside the chroot?
[03:16] <ystesta> okay so I have the problem that some people with atheros wireless cards have
[03:17] <ystesta> namely the wireless 'randomly' hangs
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> G_chaa, here is chroot link and after the command you reference you ran although different. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[03:22] <phunyguy> My ~/.gvfs folder keeps disappearing... how can I put it back? I have shares mounted but there is no gvfs folder!
[03:22] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, I installed virtualbox-guest-additions in my Ubuntu guest OS but I can't get it change the screen resolution of the guest
[03:22] <G_chaa> wilee-nilee: Thanks!  Everything went smoothly and I am now booted into the operating system!
[03:22] <blendergeek> How do you mount an ipod touch in ubuntu? I get an (unhandled lockdown error (-5))
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> G_chaa, cool man. ;)
[03:23] <ring1> blendergeek, try gtkpod
[03:25] <Canuckian> !patience | blendergeek
[03:26] <drelyn86> has anyone got sound working in the Humble Indie Bundle, Space Pirates and Zombies?
[03:28] <ring1> blendergeek, does it work?
[03:28] <PratterFak> sounds like gtkpod is having issues on 12.04 and I didn't have any issues with sound on SPAZ
[03:29] <ObamaSucks> http://Obama-Sucks-Balls.com
[03:29] <solocommand> Hey folks. I'm trying to get postfix setup on my media server so I can have logging reports sent via my google apps account. in the mail queue, i see this message for my test email: relay=smtp.gmail.com[74.125.142.108]:587, delay=1198, delays=1198/0.03/0.58/0, dsn=4.7.5, status=deferred (Server certificate not trusted). I'm using the smtp_tls_capath config option so I won't have to update the certificate if GA changes their CA provider, but I'm not sure h
[03:29] <WeThePeople> blendergeek, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1861617
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> blendergeek, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1861617
[03:30] <WeThePeople> too late :)
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> !op | ObamaSucks
[03:31] <Sirisian> random question. Does Ubuntu use the CPU or GPU to render its UI?
[03:32] <drelyn86> Sirisian, 12.10 is handling that a little differently
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> WeThePeople, heh missed that. ;)
[03:33] <drelyn86> Sirisian, basically it's the GPU, but if GPU acceleration is not available then it's the CPU
[03:33] <drelyn86> Sirisian, but in 12.04 and earlier if GPU acceleration is not available then it just falls back to 2d mode... so in short, 2d mode unity is being retired in 12.10
[03:35] <solocommand> If I change my config to use smtp_tls_cafile, how do I add the Equifax CA to my cacert.pem?
[03:35] <Sirisian> ah nvm found it.
[03:36] <Nautilus> kodiak: lxde working via NX!  thanks :)
[03:38] <jagginess> solocommand, you need ssl 101
[03:41] <solocommand> jagginess: I know. I just figured it out though
[03:42] <solocommand> jagginess: Any recommended reading? My SSL experience is pretty much just generating self-signed certs for encryption purposes. :/
[03:44] <blendergeek> Hi raul782
[03:44] <jagginess> solocommand, there's guides here and there, basically you need to know what ssl is all about..
[03:44] <blendergeek> Hi nevadasmith
[03:45] <blendergeek> Hey, ferret
[03:48] <blendergeek> Hey, Senix
[03:49] <myersg> hey
[03:49] <myersg> How do I block mumble from the network
[03:49] <myersg> like, to block people from being able to use it over the network...
[03:49] <blendergeek> I don't know, from what network?
[03:50] <myersg> My brother uses it.. my mom wants me to block it. from the router
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> myersg, That is bad parenting.
[03:53] <myersg> ...no.. It needs to be blocked.
[03:53] <blendergeek> myersg, I'm not sure exactly what you want but adding "0.0.0.0 www.example.com" to /etc/hosts will block the site www.example.com
[03:53] <Flannel> myersg: You'd likely do that at the router level.  Unless you have admin rights to his computer (and he doesnt)
[03:53] <myersg> hmm I will try
[03:53] <myersg> thanks.
[03:53] <kyubotsu> that's besides the point. and yes, it can just be set at the router to allow or block any app
[03:53] <blendergeek> I don't know the first thing about routers, and who has admin rights to the router?
[03:54] <myersg> how do I block apps in the router?
[03:54] <myersg> I use dlink
[03:54] <kyubotsu> check the documentation for it
[03:56] <myersg> I think I figured it out
[03:56] <ClientAlive> I have two little questions: (1) Is there some program already on my ubuntu 12.04 system that can merge files together? (2) Is there some program that runs on linux that can merge ANY type of files together.
[03:56] <kyubotsu> it's usually a simple step as long as you have access to its portal
[03:57] <ClientAlive> I know cat can concatenate files but there may be times I need a more intelligent merge
[04:00] <Flannel> ClientAlive: I don't believe any merge tools are default, but there's oodles in the repos.  There's no program anywhere that can merge "any" files together.  How you "merge" a graphic file is completely different (and totally subjective) from a text file, or even an audio file (again, totally subjective).
[04:02] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, I installed virtualbox-guest-additions in my Ubuntu guest OS but the screen resolution still doesn't change as I re-size the window, can anyone give me a hand?
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> JokesOnYou77, have you logged it out or rebooted it?
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> JokesOnYou77, YOu mean the resolution or the screen size the resolution you have to set.
[04:03] <shrimants> im running 12.04 32 bit inside of a 12.04 64 bit VM. the entire system is hanging horribly and all of my work is in the VM. i have no idea how to safely handle this situation without losing all of my work, but i cannot use my mouse whatsoever
[04:03] <JokesOnYou77> wilee-nilee: quite a few times.  I installed x32 server 12.04.1 with xorg and awesome for a window manager
[04:03] <shrimants> all i'm showing is nearly constant disk access
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> JokesOnYou77,  excellent. ;)
[04:04] <shrimants> display, mouse are both completely frozen, but keyboard seems to be working. i can get to a tty
[04:05] <shrimants> the cause of this hangup was to send myself a 12mb zipped file in gmail from within the virtual machine using firefox. The system is a 2.8ghz 4gbRAM machine, and should be able to handle the virtual machine
[04:05] <JokesOnYou77> wilee-nilee: HAHAHA!! It worked!  Or, maybe it didn't..I'm not entirely sure I did all that much, but having the window in full screen before I startX seems to get it to occupy the entire window :)
[04:05] <JustBelievinIt> shrimants: Well you are trying to send a zip file over gmail and gmail has a attatchemnt limit for sure.
[04:06] <shrimants> gmail's attachment limit is 20mb
[04:06] <kyubotsu> shrimants: why didn't you just copy the file over to a usb ...
[04:06] <shrimants> kyubotsu: I have a dedicated folder for all of my school things in gmail.
[04:08] <JustBelievinIt> shrimants: I believe that the browser is freezing up the computer. Try shutting it down through the task manager.
[04:08] <shrimants> i cant
[04:08] <JustBelievinIt> ehh so your display isnt working correct?
[04:08] <shrimants> entire gui is frozen
[04:09] <shrimants> not only the VM gui, the host gui too
[04:09] <shrimants> because the VM is bogging it down now
[04:09] <kyubotsu> shrimants: you have access to terminal. run TOP and kill it that way
[04:10] <JustBelievinIt> kyubotsu: his mouse and screen are frozen
[04:10] <shrimants> i cant kill the VM without losing all of my work, presumably
[04:10] <JustBelievinIt> shrimants: Well, did you save before sending?
[04:10] <kyubotsu> shrimants: just the browser, anyway
[04:11] <shrimants> i didnt save the VM state or anything. but the file/folder I need is just a zip folder in the VM
[04:11] <shrimants> if I kill the VM, will that still exist?
[04:11] <maxflax> zodiak: Solved it.. *sign* finally
[04:12] <julius_> hi
[04:12] <JustBelievinIt> shrimants: I'm pretty sure shutting something down doesn't mean you lose all your work unless you didn't save.
[04:13] <JustBelievinIt> shrimants: if the zip file is in the temp folder
[04:13] <julius_> what webmail software like squirrelmail does support IMAP IDLE, so that when the server that squirrelmail gets its mail from has new always sends it and i just have to refresh the webinterface?
[04:13] <JustBelievinIt> shrimants: there is a good chance in my experience
[04:13] <shrimants> but we arent talking shutdown the VM. we're talking force kill the virtualbox program
[04:13] <shrimants> if you shutdown the VM everything is dandy
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> shrimants, run tops and see whats running and kill what is making the problem.
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> top*
[04:16] <JustBelievinIt> shrimants: Do you have the a backup zip folder in case the one you were using disappears?
[04:16] <shrimants> no
[04:16] <Cell> bazhang: sup ba?
[04:16] <Cell> know of any good movies to torrent?
[04:16] <shrimants> that is what i was in the process of doing
[04:16] <Calinou> rofl
[04:16] <Cell> illegally torrent, that is
[04:16] <Calinou> Cell: not even funny
[04:16] <Calinou> try at least to be funny :>
[04:16] <bazhang> Cell, wrong channel
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> !warez | Cell
[04:17] <JustBelievinIt> shrimants: by sending it through the email?
[04:17] <Cell> it is funny because ba rages hard whenever he sees a chance to talk about the rules
[04:17] <shrimants> yup. generally, sending myself an attachment is not something i regard as a cataclysmic event
[04:17] <Calinou> no, he is right
[04:17] <bazhang> Cell, take it elsewhere
[04:17] <Calinou> piracy is not legal, sorry
[04:17] <WeThePeople> julius_, is your question ubuntu related
[04:17] <julius_> not directly
[04:18] <JustBelievinIt> shrimants: well all there is, is chance and luck. just force shut it down and hope for the best in my best opinoin
[04:18] <WeThePeople> julius_, see #web
[04:18] <shrimants> the tty is still attempting to log in
[04:18] <julius_> thx
[04:18] <shrimants> at this point it seems my best option might just be to do a hard boot
[04:18] <shrimants> and try a flash drive, this time
[04:18] <shrimants> assuming my work still exists, by some odd stroke of luck
[04:18] <JustBelievinIt> Ehh.... hard boot sounds like you'll lose lots of things.
[04:19] <shrimants> i cannot type, i cannot move my mouse, i cannot view my display
[04:19] <JustBelievinIt> In other words, you are using another computer right now to talk in the irc chat? lol?
[04:19] <shrimants> yes
[04:20] <whackatre> how do i install wireless on 12.0.4?
[04:20] <JustBelievinIt> Well anyways I guess hard boot is the way it is. Maybe the VM has a failsafe and you'll have your files.
[04:20] <bazhang> !wifi | whackatre
[04:20] <shrimants> maybe
[04:21] <JustBelievinIt> good luck!
[04:21] <shrimants> the only thing that is happening right now is an excessive amount of read/writes to the HDD
[04:21] <WeThePeople> is tty slang for terminal?
[04:21] <shrimants> and i have no idea what it is read/writing
[04:21] <shrimants> but it shouldnt be doing anything at all
[04:21] <JustBelievinIt> It's probably reading the info being sent by the VM
[04:22] <JustBelievinIt> a lot of info
[04:22] <kyubotsu> !tty | WeThePeople
[04:24] <JustBelievinIt> Just wondering, what irc chat should i join for league of legends?
[04:24] <bazhang> !alis | JustBelievinIt
[04:24] <shrimants> BLESS THE LORD AND KISS SWEET BABY JESUS
[04:24] <JustBelievinIt> Lol it worked didnt it
[04:24] <shrimants> yes
[04:25] <superfake123> my sound control volume thing in the top right of the window doesn't seem to be working anymore how do I reset it?
[04:25] <JustBelievinIt> Congrats?
[04:25] <shrimants> however, i wasted a heck of a lot of time staring at a blank screen with no keyboard/mouse input waiting for something to happen
[04:25] <shrimants> to the flash drive!
[04:25] <JustBelievinIt> and to the desktop
[04:25] <JustBelievinIt> save two copies
[04:25] <shrimants> save ALL the copies
[04:25] <JustBelievinIt> superfake123: umm try changing the settings?
[04:27] <JustBelievinIt> superfake123: Also what do you mean the sound thing doesnt work?
[04:28] <superfake123> JustBelievinIt, I can see the speaker but then there is just 3 dashes, if I click it and go into the drop down I cannot move the volume level
[04:29] <superfake123> JustBelievinIt, then when I go into sound settings there is nothing under output, however I do have sound working through rhythombox and other apps
[04:29] <shrimants> well
[04:29] <shrimants> my VM cant see the usb stick
[04:29] <shrimants> so i guess its time for plan C: upload to dropbox
[04:30] <ClientAlive> Flannel: sorry, got sidetracked looking for info. Found rcs (merge command). Guess it uses diff or something - idk   :)
[04:31] <sanga> hello?
[04:31] <sanga> 可以说中文么？
[04:31] <bazhang> !cn | sanga
[04:32] <delinquentme> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/22/1319216/ubuntu-will-now-have-amazon-ads-pre-installed/
[04:32] <delinquentme> wat.
[04:32] <bazhang> !ot | delinquentme
[04:33] <wildman330> what does the following mean?
[04:33] <delinquentme> bazhang, did you read the url?
[04:33] <wildman330> type=1400 audit(1348374621.456:230290): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="file_perm" parent=23271 profile="/opt/google/chrome/*chrome//chrome_sandbox" name=2F686F6D652F726F6F6B63696665722F2E636F6E6669672F676F6F676C652D6368726F6D652F44656661756C742F50657070657220446174612F53686F636B7761766520466C6173682F2E636F6D2E676F6F676C652E4368726F6D652E6C7842546343 pid=24021 comm="chrome" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
[04:33] <bazhang> delinquentme, its not the chat channel. #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[04:33] <delinquentme> as in .. I posted it in this channel because its ubuntu and its unbelieveable
[04:34] <bazhang> delinquentme, and this is Ubuntu support ONLY
[04:34] <Nautilus> I am in Xfburn and added a bunch of files to burn to a data DVD, when I put in a blank I get an error dialog "Not Authorized" ... whaaaat?    (12.04, lxde, xfburn)
[04:35] <JustBelievinIt> superfake123:  what distro is it
[04:35] <zodiak> maxflax, what was it ?
[04:35] <zodiak> maxflax, sorry, I was away in xen hell :D
[04:36] <superfake123> JustBelievinIt, Ubunutu 12.04 freshly installed last night. I installed some driver to make LoL work in PlayOnLinux and now I don't think the pulseaudio thing is working correctly
[04:36] <maxflax> zodiak: found the problem  in my xsesssion-errors - Was a missing opengl file.. libGLEW 1.5 I think.. the update must have removed that thinking it was something useless
[04:36] <JustBelievinIt> superflake123: killall pulseaudio try this command
[04:36] <zodiak> O_o
[04:37] <zodiak> maxflax, that's.. beyond.. huh ?!
[04:37] <JustBelievinIt> superflake123: use it in terminal in other words.
[04:37] <snakehunt2012> a
[04:37] <snakehunt2012> hello?
[04:37] <superfake123> JustBelievinIt, pulseaudio: no process found
[04:37] <maxflax> zodiak: yeah.. I know
[04:37] <snakehunt2012> 有人么？
[04:37] <zodiak> snakehunt2012, english :\
[04:37] <bazhang> !cn | snakehunt2012
[04:37] <snakehunt2012> which country are you from?
[04:38] <bazhang> snakehunt2012, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:38] <zodiak> ooohhh. a/s/l 'fun' :D
[04:38] <zodiak> maxflax, I don't even know what libglew -is- .. and I have done xlib programming! sheesh
[04:38] <snakehunt2012> first come to this irc, actually first use irc...
[04:39] <JustBelievinIt> superflake123: Take a look at this link.
[04:39] <JustBelievinIt> http://askubuntu.com/questions/132577/no-sound-in-ubuntu-12-04
[04:39] <bazhang> snakehunt2012, did you have an Ubuntu support question?
[04:39] <maxflax> zodiak: it's something xbmc uses anyway.. was on my htpc this problem arised
[04:40] <Nautilus> I am in Xfburn and added a bunch of files to burn to a data DVD, when I put in a blank I get an error dialog "Not Authorized" ... whaaaat?    (12.04, lxde, xfburn)   What do I need to do?
[04:40] <zodiak> maxflax, well.. good to 'know' I guess. glad you got it sorted.
[04:41] <benignbala> Hi, I just downloaded Ubuntu 12.04.1 i386 CD. I want to check the MD5sum. But the UbuntuHashes page has it only for the 12.04 initial release.
[04:42] <benignbala> Where can I get the MD5sums for this CD image ?
[04:43] <xangua> benignbala: with 12.04.1 is with security updates that were released since april to october
[04:43] <xangua> wich*
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> benignbala, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/MD5SUMS
[04:44] <benignbala> wilee-nilee: xangua Thanks.
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[04:45] <alkisg> If I have less than 3 Gb RAM, is there any benefit at all by keeping the -pae kernel instead of switching to -generic?
[04:45] <Nautilus> how do i get authorization to put a blank DVD in my computer?
[04:46] <Roached> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/22/1319216/ubuntu-will-now-have-amazon-ads-pre-installed/
[04:46] <Roached> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/22/1319216/ubuntu-will-now-have-amazon-ads-pre-installed/
[04:46] <Roached> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/22/1319216/ubuntu-will-now-have-amazon-ads-pre-installed/
[04:46] <FloodBot1> Roached: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:46] <Roached> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/22/1319216/ubuntu-will-now-have-amazon-ads-pre-installed/
[04:46] <Roached> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/22/1319216/ubuntu-will-now-have-amazon-ads-pre-installed/
[04:48] <Nautilus> i have an error message that says "Not Authorized", but the only button available is "OK".  It's not OK.
[04:50] <SecretFire> for some reason I am having trouble with avi playback in both vlc and dragon player in kubuntu 12.04
[04:51] <sanga>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[04:51] <sanga>  /join #ubuntu -cn
[04:51] <FloodBot1> sanga: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:51] <bazhang> SecretFire, try from the terminal
[04:51] <maxflax> Nautilus - start xfburn as sudo then and see if it works
[04:52] <Nautilus> maxflax: how do I do that from the (lxde) menu?
[04:52] <SecretFire> bazhang : I get [mpeg4 @ 0xb52257e0] Invalid and inefficient vfw-avi packed B frames detected
[04:53] <Beetles> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/22/1319216/ubuntu-will-now-have-amazon-ads-pre-installed
[04:53] <Beetles> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/22/1319216/ubuntu-will-now-have-amazon-ads-pre-installed
[04:53] <bazhang> SecretFire, file corrupted?
[04:53] <Beetles> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/22/1319216/ubuntu-will-now-have-amazon-ads-pre-installed
[04:53] <bazhang> Beetles, stop that
[04:53] <DrBrownbear> Beetles, we got it the first time. thanks.
[04:53] <Beetles> why ads?
[04:53] <Beetles> why we having ads
[04:53] <bazhang> Beetles, take it to offtopic
[04:53] <SecretFire> bazhang : possibly
[04:54] <Beetles> meaning?
[04:54] <Beetles> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/22/1319216/ubuntu-will-now-have-amazon-ads-pre-installed
[04:54] <Beetles> why ads?
[04:54] <Beetles> how removen
[04:54] <bazhang> SecretFire, you could try using ffmpeg to repair it
[04:54] <Nautilus> beetles so you will shoot yourself
[04:54] <bazhang> Beetles, stop it last warning
[04:54] <nexussix> hi all
[04:54] <maxflax> Nautilus: I would guess you can press ... Alt + F2 and in that command prompt write gksudo xfburn .. don't run lxde so not sure and don't have xfburn but logic says it's that name
[04:54] <Beetles> fine mister
[04:54] <Beetles> tell me why ads
[04:54] <Nautilus> maxflax: thanks
[04:54] <SecretFire> bazhang : in order to do that Id have to extract from disc and do to a copy of the original
[04:55] <bazhang> SecretFire, not really no
[04:55] <crissim> v
[04:55] <SecretFire> bazhang : how do I use ffmpeg to repair it?
[04:56] <superfake123> now the sound icon doesn't even show up on the top right :(
[04:57] <bazhang> http://myridia.com/dev_posts/view/197 SecretFire . try using mplayer as well
[04:57] <nexussix> so I am having a little trouble getting my geforce4 mx 440 working with 12.04. I upgraded from the previous version, and could only get 1024x768 with the nouveau drivers - I apt-get rmnoved and isntalled a bunch of stuff and now I can't even get the desktop to appear
[04:57] <akis> i noticed that many extensions of chromium (Novell Moonlight included) give the alert that they 'can access all data in your computer and  the web sites you visit'. I read many opinions after googling a lot about it, but i didnt read any official opinion or any developer's opinion from ubuntu's site or any other distro.
[04:57] <nexussix> Xorg.0.log just saus "no screens" :/
[04:58] <akis> Any opinion from here would be appreciated if actually this scary warning is true or not and if in ubuntu special is possible an
[04:58] <akis> extension to make a 'hole' and get inside the system, or if this warning is just because an extension it would just use any file in the system outside chrome shell.
[04:58] <bazhang> nexussix, what does a bunch of stuff mean
[04:58] <nexussix> "a bunch of stuff" means "I can't remember because it was a couple weeks ago" :/
[04:59] <nexussix> bazhang: well it installing nvidi ORDERa drivers and removeing them and removing xorg-core and putting it back - but i CAN'T REALLY REMEMBER TH
[04:59] <nexussix> SORRY
[04:59] <nexussix> I can't remeber the order
[05:00] <Nautilus> maxflax: wow, no-go via sudo either.
[05:02] <Nautilus> maxflax: just got it going.   I clicked on "Burn" and while it said "ni media in device" I found a refresh button and I'm on my way.  but man, a real wtf of user experience
[05:02] <Nautilus> s/ni/no/
[05:03] <nexussix> so I guess my issue is with trying to use nouveau - "[drm] failed to load kernel module "nouveau""
[05:05] <nexussix> and kern.log gives me "init: Failed to spawn hybrid-gfx main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory" which is a little more worrying
[05:05] <Beetles> someone help me with adds from amazon?
[05:06] <Nautilus> whoa, xfburn burned this DVD as a 200M CD format?  (yes the data is only 55M, but this seems odd)
[05:06] <bazhang> Beetles, stop asking here
[05:06] <Beetles> bazhang where can then I ask?
[05:06] <Beetles> is this support channel?
[05:06] <bazhang> Beetles, thats for 12.10
[05:06] <Nautilus> support != marketing
[05:06] <Beetles> bazhang so no support for version yet?
[05:06] <bazhang> Beetles, so it's offtopic here
[05:07] <Beetles> where is place ask for hgelp?
[05:07] <Beetles> please these ads are on now someone message me private and give instruction for remove from
[05:07] <Beetles> why adding adds to amazon on ubuntu
[05:08] <Beetles> i dont enjoy
[05:08] <Beetles> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/22/1319216/ubuntu-will-now-have-amazon-ads-pre-installed
[05:08] <Beetles> ?
[05:08] <Beetles> if you have tip send private message for me
[05:09] <Beetles> bazhang u helo me
[05:09] <Beetles> please
[05:09] <Beetles> please mister show me where to get removeal
[05:09] <Beetles> bazhang s
[05:10] <superfake123> that guy was annoying D:
[05:10] <bazhang> he's gone
[05:11] <nexussix> hmmm when I modprobe nouveau I get 7 errors - all "error inserting wmi (path to ko file): no suck device
[05:11] <nexussix> and the same for mxm_wmi
[05:12] <nexussix> and drm, i2c_algop_bit, ttm, drm_kms_helper anmd nouveau itself
[05:17] <alkisg> If I have less than 3 Gb RAM, is there any benefit at all in keeping the -pae kernel instead of switching to -generic?
[05:17] <superfake123> my sound has stopped working and the icon no longer shows at the top. how can sorta start all over with the sound? I don't think I can even get pulseaudio to run D:
[05:18] <nexussix> alkisg: I wouldnt say so - but I guess it can't hurt either
[05:19] <alkisg> nexussix: I'm using my system as a template for others, so switching to non-pae might help older computers that don't have -pae support at all. Thank you.
[05:19] <nexussix> alkisg: i went to 6 gig from 4 at work, changed to a pae kernel and didn't nitice any difference in that direction
[05:19] <pishguy> hi all after, installing nvidia driver, i cant get high resulation
[05:19] <kyubotsu> !pae | alkisg
[05:19] <kyubotsu> guess not
[05:20] <alkisg> Yeah, was looking for the opposite + any other possible -pae benefits
[05:21] <effigy> i feel like i'm about to lose my shit. does anybody know how to put 1 mp3 onto an ipad? i'm going on a long drive tomorrow and i need to get this audiobook on here. i'm going crazy i've been trying for hours to get this to work. i just want to put mp3's on my ipad.
[05:21] <bazhang> effigy, no cursing here
[05:21] <bazhang> effigy, from what version of ubuntu
[05:22] <superfake123> I can do it no problem with rhythmbox
[05:22] <effigy> bazhang, sorry i quit smoking a couple weeks ago and i'm just going crazy with this
[05:22] <effigy> bazhang 11.04 completely updated
[05:23] <effigy> superfake123 how do you do it?
[05:23] <superfake123> effigy, i just plug in my ipod and it shows up in rhythmbox, then I can drag and drop mp3s from rhythmbox
[05:24] <superfake123> effigy, I'm on 12.04 though
[05:24] <xangua> effigy: but not the latest ubuntu, with 12.04 you'll have better chances to work with latest iOS
[05:24] <xangua> effigy: but again, everytime iOS updates, ubuntu support is broken, it's a never ending story
[05:25] <effigy> how long does it take to update to 12.04? it's 12:30am here and i'm leaving in the morning, i need this guys, haha, i know it sounds stupid but i'm in dire straits here... i've been trying to get this to work for hours
[05:26] <rgenito> hmm, i think #virtualbox might be an appropriate place to ask this... but i'm really not sure since the problem might be ubuntu
[05:26] <xangua> effigy: the fastest way would be a fresh install
[05:26] <bazhang> effigy, does the iPad even have a usb connector? what about going the way of dropbox
[05:26] <rgenito> is it possible to have 64bit OSes running on virtual box on a 64bit ubuntu install?
[05:27] <superfake123> bazhang, any ideas about my sound issues? :D
[05:27] <Flannel> effigy: Try using a 12.04 LiveCD, since all you have to do is put a single file (or attempt!) onto the ipad, right?
[05:27] <effigy> bazhang doesn't dropbox need the internet? i won't have internet access. i just want the mp3s on my ipad.
[05:27] <rgenito> whoa wait, ipad? liveCD? dropbox? what's going on here?
[05:27] <kyubotsu> effigy: fresh install might seem faster but you would still have to update the system as well.. this could take at least couple hours depending on your download speed and processor
[05:28] <effigy> rgenito i have no idea
[05:28] <rgenito> effigy are you the one asking for help?
[05:28] <effigy> rgenito yup
[05:28] <rgenito> what's your question?
[05:29] <effigy> i just want to put 5 mp3s on my ipad. that's it.
[05:29] <rgenito> ah ok
[05:29] <rgenito> what methods have you tried?
[05:29] <kyubotsu> effigy: you would also have to monitor the whole thing as setting some proprietary software during install requires user input to continue
[05:30] <effigy> rgenito i've been trying all of google's luck for honestly 4 hours.... so i've tried a lot of stuff....
[05:30] <rgenito> ok cool, sooo tell me about your setup
[05:30] <rgenito> it's not an internet ipad, right?
[05:30] <rgenito> actually, first question: on what system are the mp3s?
[05:30] <rgenito> or they on a web server? on your computer? etc
[05:30] <effigy> ubuntu 11.04 fully updated
[05:30] <rgenito> and the mp3s are on there?
[05:31] <effigy> yeah but i can upload them anywhere, it's an audiobook i really want to listen to on a road trip
[05:31] <kyubotsu> rgenito: the ipad he wants to transfer the mp3's does not mount
[05:31] <kyubotsu> transfer to
[05:32] <effigy> kyubotsu: i can get the ipad to mount on banshee and everything looks like it's working... but they don't show up when i dismount and check the ipad
[05:32] <rgenito> effigy and you don't have an 3G or LTE ipad, right?
[05:32] <effigy> nah, just wireless
[05:33] <Togo> hi
[05:33] <rgenito> if you absolutely cannot get the mount part to work...
[05:33] <DeltaHeavy> Is there any way to fix dragging tabs in Chrome without leaving fullscreen?
[05:33] <DeltaHeavy> In Unity*
[05:33] <Flannel> effigy: Can you host them on your desktop/laptop and download them or ftp them or anything from the ipad? (I have no idea what options the ipad offers, if you can even "download" things)
[05:34] <rgenito> actually ya, you're going to have to get it to mount :( sorry but i dont have experience with that
[05:34] <rgenito> do yourself a favor and get an internet iPad
[05:34] <rgenito> TRUST me.. completely worth it. i bought an internet iPad before a road trip from FL to CA, it was SO worth it.
[05:34] <effigy> flannel i tried that but you can't download mp3's on an ipad... some stupid stuff i know, i found this out about an hour ago, ha
[05:34] <Flannel> effigy: can you download "other" files? (rename the extension, zip them, whatever) and then "unconvert" on the ipad?
[05:35] <kyubotsu> effigy: try copying the file directly to the ipad then, if the ipad mounts and i can just open it as a drive , thats what i'd try
[05:35] <superfake123> rgenito, I need help :) My sound works, except the controls (top left) and all other stuff seems to have disappeared (no output devices listed under sound settings)
[05:35] <effigy> rgenito what are you saying? i can mount it with banshee but it doesn't actually 'sync'
[05:35] <rgenito> superfake123, good for you, what makes you think i can help? :)
[05:35] <rgenito> effigy OH ... why dont you do this...
[05:35] <rgenito> effigy do you have a win or mac? :)
[05:35] <effigy> flannel: nah ipad doesn't 'save' files like that
[05:35] <superfake123> rgenito, because you seem to know what you're talking about D:
[05:36] <effigy> rgenito i only have this laptop running linux.
[05:36] <rgenito> superfake123, i don't really...i just know some server admin stuff. i hate messing with config stuff and wasting my time... so i just develop on ubuntu. for anything else i use my ipad or mac...screw computers lol
[05:36] <Flannel> effigy: Like I said, no idea :)  Did I see that someone said that it mounts on 12.04?  Could you use a LiveCD for 12.04 to mount the ipad?
[05:36] <rgenito> effigy, ever think about getting virtual box and running windows? :)
[05:37] <rgenito> that would solve your issue with having a lack of systems
[05:37] <effigy> flannel yeah i see people saying they get it to work... google my question and you'll get all sorts of answers... it just doesn't work tho
[05:37] <rgenito> effigy if i were you... i'd torrent windows or OSX (later versions that allow virtualization) and i would install that on virtual box ASAP
[05:38] <rgenito> that way you don't have to mess around with the sub-optimal world of linux.
[05:38] <Flannel> effigy: ah, you have tried it, ok!
[05:38] <effigy> flannel i've been trying to do this for over 3 hours
[05:39] <kyubotsu> rgenito: that's complicating the issue, setting up vm's will not fit in his deadline
[05:39] <htamayo> hi, well i have a problem with ubuntu precise and my ati x1200 series video card, I don't graphical mode, also i don't have xorg.conf file, the fglrx is already installed, every time i try to run the X i got the error no screens found, checking in the xorg.0.log the only weird thing I found is this: "warning, couldn't open module fglrxdm", so i have several questions, the first is what else should I check? how can i load the fglrxdrm module?
[05:39] <htamayo> in fact i'm ircing from text mode, it's very different
[05:40] <effigy> rgenito i'm going to install windows just to install itunes to do this. lk;asjdf;lsakjdflk;sjf
[05:40] <effigy> i'm ^not^ going to, i'm so mad hahaha
[05:41] <The_Josh> I am trying to install some software (nemo)
[05:41] <The_Josh> when I did ./configure
[05:41] <htamayo> the ati x1200 card is supported to ubuntu precise?
[05:41] <The_Josh> It said My intltool is too old
[05:41] <kyubotsu> effigy: try Flannel 's suggestion of using a 12.04 live cd ...
[05:41] <The_Josh> What does it mean?
[05:42] <effigy> kyubotsu i just feel like there is some super simple package i don't have. if you google this you'll see lots of people claim to find it easy way before 12.04
[05:43] <htamayo> i'm checking in my /etc/X11/ dir but i don't have xorg.conf file, so why is that? where is it?
[05:43] <kyubotsu> effigy: also, see if there is a 'sync' button on banshee's interface, never know ..
[05:44] <htamayo> i'm trying to generate xorg.conf file with Xorg  --configure but still got the error that no screens found, not supported file, any suggestions?
[05:45] <effigy> kyubotsu yeah i sync it, i'm mounting and syncing on 3 different media players... blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh4uij4fd
[05:46] <Afflicto> Hey all. I just some hardware around and bootet up ubuntu 1204 via grub and it took me to the command-line. I logged in and tried "startx" and it says: "WARNING: -e needs -E or -F" Please help. thanks in advance.
[05:46] <kyubotsu> install rhythmbox , its what 12.04 has as player.. maybe it'll do the trick
[05:46] <kyubotsu> effigy: ^
[05:46] <effigy> rhythmbox... haven't tried that, thanks will do
[05:47]  * Afflicto also, what I see now is just a flashing underscore.
[05:47] <The_Josh> How do I install intool :3
[05:49] <effigy> kyubotsu ha nevermind already installed, but why doesn't it recognize my mp3 player?
[05:49] <xangua> effigy: because you are using an old ubuntu release as i told you already
[05:50] <effigy> xangua don't come at me with the old release stuff, people have been putting mp3s on apple products for a long time
[05:51] <xangua> effigy: yeah, everytime there is a new ubuntu release it supports the current iOS, then a new iOS version is releases and the support is broken...is a never ending story
[05:52] <effigy> xangua so if i update to the latest ubuntu it'll just start working?
[05:52] <xangua> effigy: maybe...iOS 6 was just released
[05:52] <effigy> my ipad isn't on iOS 6
[05:53] <effigy> you're telling me "as i told you already" like you're preaching a truth
[05:53] <kyubotsu> best bet seems to be to upgrade your system, and that'll take couple hours of your time anyway
[05:54] <Togo> why does some cnn.com videos play and most dont  ?
[05:55] <alkisg> kyubotsu: `lspci -nn -k | grep -A 3 VGA` will tell you if there's a driver available for your graphics card
[05:55] <effigy> wow i am seriously on the verge of breaking my laptop and ipad. this is so silly i can't believe nobody knows how to do this.
[05:55] <alkisg> kyubotsu: for more, try also #ubuntu-x
[05:56] <kyubotsu> alkisg: thanks. but, i don't know what you're talking about..
[05:57] <xangua> effigy: apples just don't like neither want to play with penguins, not the oposite :)
[05:57] <alkisg> kyubotsu: sorry, wrong nickname, those were ment for htamayo ^
[05:58] <xangua> effigy: how about you just sens yoursel an email with the mp3 atached to it¿ or neither can you save files that are sent to your mail on an ipad/iOS ¿
[05:58] <kyubotsu> tab complete is your friend
[05:58] <effigy> xangua i know but when i had an ipod years ago i figure dout. don't have the ipod anymore i'm about to drive 12 hours and i really need to figure this out osaidjadfhgadfhf sorry haha
[05:59] <effigy> xangua you can't "download" files like that... i already tried uploading them to a server
[06:00] <Calinou> you can't download/upload anything from iOS
[06:00] <Calinou> android 1-0 iOS (iirc, it can :P)
[06:00] <kyubotsu> effigy: ipad has not usb 2.0 port?
[06:00] <Calinou> kyubotsu: LOL, no
[06:00] <Calinou> only proprietary port
[06:00] <effigy> kyubotsu no just the weird port for apple shit
[06:00] <effigy> calinou do you know how i can do this?
[06:01] <Calinou> effigy: no idea
[06:01] <Calinou> why do people buy apple products? :|
[06:02] <xangua> effigy: there is also Ubuntu Music if you use ubuntu one, you can sync your mp3 and also play them offline; it's a pay service but it's free the first month
[06:02] <effigy> i got this as a birthday gift and it's actually really cool, but this is the first time i've tried to "do something" with it and i've spent the last 4 hours raging
[06:02] <effigy> it's ridiculous, this thing is making me so mad
[06:02] <kyubotsu> use your other player then
[06:03] <Calinou> xangua: iOS cannot download anything and there is no ubuntu one app on ios
[06:03] <Calinou> effigy: tell your friends/family to give real birthday gifts
[06:03] <kyubotsu> we just happen to hit the proverbial brick wall , effigy
[06:03] <effigy> xangua that doesn't put the mp3 on my ipad, i am going to be in the desert and really want to listen to this audio book
[06:04] <xangua> Calinou: use ubuntu one with...yes iphen and ipad https://one.ubuntu.com/services/ ooh now it says it's fre for 6 months hehe effigy
[06:04] <xangua> iphone* and ipad
[06:04] <Calinou> paid <_<
[06:05] <kyubotsu> xangua: his isn't internet ready either
[06:07] <effigy> xangua: i don't really get what you said
[06:08] <effigy> kyubotsu: so it just isn't possible: even tho i see people saying they do it on google searches?
[06:08] <xangua> 6 months free*
[06:16] <effigy> i waited and tried to do this for over 4 hours. all i wanted to do was put an mp3 on my ipad. i bought the mp3 if you're wondering. damn apple is running some serious game, i honestly didn't expect it to be so hard. but i remember trying to do this same shit. just add an mp3 to my ipod.
[06:16] <effigy> how is apple's structure so hardcore?
[06:17] <IdleOne> effigy: Please stop the cursing
[06:18] <effigy> idle0ne i didn't curse
[06:19] <IdleOne> effigy: the s word is not family friendly. Please stop using it.
[06:19] <superfake123> anyone know how to get my sound working again? D:
[06:19] <effigy> oh snap sorry, context and stuff, my bad
[06:21] <roadrash1965> hey room
[06:23] <effigy> i can't believe i'm just going to let this ipad defeat me, haha. i just want to put 5 mp3's on it. and it's just laughing at me. i can't believe it.
[06:25] <Calinou> ^ apple products
[06:26] <effigy> calinou that is not the linux spirit.
[06:27] <phunyguy> can anyone tell me how to change the theme of QT apps in Ubuntu?
[06:27] <Calinou> there is no linux spirit in buntu :P
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> phunyguy: with a qt theme manager
[06:28] <phunyguy> have one that doesnt want to run correctly, and apparently the theme is the issue
[06:28] <phunyguy> aeon-ltd, can you name one?
[06:28] <effigy> calinou says the tryhard lurking in #ubuntu, go be cool somewhere else
[06:28] <Calinou> no u
[06:29] <xangua> !Info qt4-qtconfig | phunyguy
[06:29] <kyubotsu> apple does not show any interest in 'cross-platform compatibility'; linux isn't the 'bad guy' here
[06:29] <xangua> !info qt4-qtconfig |
[06:29] <phunyguy> thanks
[06:30] <effigy> kyubotsu what? i know linux isn't the "bad guy" i just want to put these mp3s on my ipad. i know it's possible, i just want to do it.
[06:31] <phunyguy> effiejayx, what gIOS?
[06:31] <phunyguy> IOS**
[06:31] <phunyguy> sonofa
[06:31] <phunyguy> effigy, ^^^^
[06:31] <effigy> phunyguy: 5.1.1
[06:32] <phunyguy> using something other than iTunes?
[06:32] <kyubotsu> effigy: you have gotten suggestions from a number of folks already. it seems to me you have not tried all of them yet ...
[06:32] <phunyguy> If so, give it up.
[06:32] <phunyguy> iOS 5.1.1 doesn't have support IIRC for libimobiledevice
[06:32] <phunyguy> err i said it backwards but you know what I mean
[06:33] <phunyguy> its a database issue
[06:33] <effigy> oh shit, haha
[06:33] <phunyguy> the songs will write to the filesystem, but the iPad won't care
[06:33] <kyubotsu> and again with the curse word...
[06:33] <phunyguy> !language | effigy
[06:33] <bazhang> effigy, enough with the cursing
[06:34] <effigy> i'm sorry, last time, i figured it out with the help of y'all
[06:34] <phunyguy> effigy, this is one of those things that just won't work yet
[06:34] <phunyguy> apparently it was supposed to be part of the google summer of code projects
[06:34] <phunyguy> havent heard anything since that statement
[06:35] <effigy> phunyguy i got you, i downloaded the libimobiledevice pac but didn't know 5.1.1 didn't support it
[06:35] <phunyguy> a solution will be to load virtualbox with XP or the like, and USB passthrough
[06:35] <effigy> it's funny all these fanboys calling me stupid and telling me to do stupid stuff
[06:35] <phunyguy> and load iTunes
[06:36] <kyubotsu> we tried to help with your issue but all said and done there is no actual support for apple products here, and now you call us stupid.
[06:36] <phunyguy> no support for apple products?
[06:36] <phunyguy> is it in the repos?
[06:37] <phunyguy> and provided as a package?
[06:37] <phunyguy> it is supported, yes, but no it doesnt work and wont for a while.
[06:37] <effigy> kyubotsu google my problem, there's a lot of support
[06:37] <kyubotsu> HERE
[06:37] <phunyguy> effigy, he meant official
[06:37] <phunyguy> but libimobiledevice is in the repos and installed by default, so it IS supported here.
[06:38] <effigy> what? it's a repo
[06:38] <phunyguy> unfortunately not all IOS versions are supported yet
[06:38] <kyubotsu> phunyguy: that does not mean apple support, thats just one file
[06:39] <phunyguy> kyubotsu, hes not asking for support with the device itself, he is asking for support on a feature of libimobiledevice
[06:39] <phunyguy> iTunes works great, therefore the device works great. libimobiledevice works as well, just not on iOS 5
[06:40] <phunyguy> and libimobiledevice is what the request was for.
[06:40] <phunyguy> I helped him, please drop it.
[06:40] <kyubotsu> here's your cookie
[06:41] <phunyguy> what's the issue here?
[06:41] <phunyguy> he was misled.
[06:45] <Jordan_U> effigy: Do you know which version of iOS your iPad is using?
[06:46] <phunyguy> Jordan_U, already asked him that... 5.1.1
[06:46] <phunyguy> which isn't working yet with libimobiledevice
[06:47] <superfake123> anyone know how to get my sound working again? D:
[06:47] <phunyguy> superfake123, what version of ubuntu?
[06:47] <superfake123> phunyguy, 12.04
[06:47] <phunyguy> superfake123, what are the symptoms?
[06:48] <phunyguy> and what have you done so far
[06:48] <effigy> Jordan_U 5.1.1...
[06:48] <effigy> but i'm going to bite the bullet and stay awake and update
[06:48] <superfake123> phunyguy, the sound itself works, but I cannot change volume or anything, and the volume control thing that is supposed to be in the system bar is not there, and when I go system settings > sound nothing shows up under the output device list
[06:48] <effigy> also thanks phunyguy
[06:48] <effigy> :)
[06:48] <phunyguy> :)
[06:48] <Jordan_U> phunyguy: http://www.libimobiledevice.org/ states that at least libimobiledevice 1.0.7 should work with "iOS 5.1", do you know for sure that "5.1.1" is not supported?
[06:48] <inasne> does anyone know how to get the touchpad to work in ubuntu on a u552 fujitsu laptop?
[06:49] <phunyguy> Jordan_U, unless something changed recently, that's what I was told
[06:49] <effigy> Jordan_U i know for sure it's not working
[06:49] <phunyguy> and mine doesnt
[06:49] <effigy> cause i'm trying it right now
[06:49] <Jordan_U> effigy: You're not using libimobiledevice 1.0.7, you're using a much older version.
[06:50] <phunyguy> superfake123, that one may be beyond me
[06:50] <`Nano> anyone know where the default context definition is for tomcat7 on 12.04?
[06:50] <effigy> Jordan_U: i'm using an updated version of ubuntu
[06:50] <`Nano> i've looked in /var/lib/tomcat7 and /etc/tomcat7 but I'm probably overlooking it...
[06:51] <`Nano> don't see root.xml anymore
[06:51] <effigy> Jordan_U: how do i use the most updated version of libimobile?
[06:52] <phunyguy> I am on 12.10 and I have 1.1.4-1ubuntu1 version installed of libimobiledevice
[06:52] <phunyguy> yay netsplit
[06:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[06:52] <effigy> dat netsplit
[06:52] <Jordan_U> effigy: The safest and fastest way is probably to use an Ubuntu 12.04.1 LiveCD.
[06:53] <nibbier> looks more scary on the other side ;-)
[06:53] <phunyguy> so maybe I should start barking up the libimobiledevice tree again
[06:54] <phunyguy> I am thinking my issue is more along the lines of other software supporting libimobiledevice
[06:54] <phunyguy> but that is a question for +1
[06:54] <effigy> Jordan_U why is libimobiledevice such a thing?
[06:54] <Jordan_U> effigy: I don't understand your question.
[06:56] <effigy> Jordan_U why can't i keep my current distro
[06:57] <tjz> hello guys
[06:57] <effigy> i've learned that libimobiledevice is important in what i'm trying to do.
[06:58] <effigy> should i just go ahead and upgrade to the newest distro and go to bed?
[06:58] <effigy> is that the only solution? if so that's fine.
[06:58] <Jordan_U> effigy: Because Ubuntu packages applications and the OS together, supporting a set of applications at a specific version which are known to work well together.
[07:01] <Jordan_U> effigy: There are certainly other solutions but they are probably not easy, and may break things if you do it wrong and I am not very familiar with Apple devices, or the libraries used to support them and so I can't walk you through that process myself (and it's generally better to just upgrade, and then you'll have all your apps up to date).
[07:01] <kyubotsu> which already was suggested more than an hour ago...
[07:03] <Jordan_U> effigy: Starting the upgrade then going to bed sounds like a good plan if you don't want to go the liveCD route. Just remember that you will probably need to respond to prompts during the upgrade, so leave some time tomorrow for that and allowing the upgrade to continue afterward (all the downloading, which is usually the most time consuming part, will be done first though).
[07:03] <drcode> hi all
[07:03] <effigy> i like you guys but you're basically just saying update. i wish you knew why this is a frustrating answer. we don't all have cool internet connections.  some of us can't waste gigs of internet. i know most of you can.
[07:04] <Jordan_U> effigy: Also, understand that none of us is sure that upgrading will solve your problem.
[07:04] <FloatingGoat_> whats the most ideal format to format a flashdrive for booting ubuntu on a MBP?
[07:05] <Jordan_U> effigy: Some ISPs will allow you do download from ISP hosted mirrors of Ubuntu repositories without it counting toward your download limit.
[07:06] <sirtsu> hi folks, how to solve system is running in low-graphic mode?
[07:07] <mikubuntu> so IS THERE or ISN'T there an Android Emulator that works on ubuntu?
[07:07] <Tonisius> I thought they all worked...
[07:07] <Tonisius> it's down to ADB..
[07:07] <Tonisius> and the qemu emulation
[07:07] <Tonisius> mikubuntu: any reason why it's not working for you?
[07:08] <Tonisius> http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2009/05/14/goldfish-emulator-platform-run-android-on-qemu/
[07:08] <mikubuntu> Tonisius: i was about to say i can't find one -- i'll look at your link now, thx
[07:09] <newzi> Yo
[07:10] <newzi> !themes
[07:10] <newzi> !themes | FloodBot1
[07:10] <newzi> !themes | FloodBot1
[07:11] <ysyk> hello everyone
[07:11] <mikubuntu> Tonisius: um, so i can't find 'goldfish' on software center -- and the link you sent me doesn't show a download
[07:11] <Tonisius> mikubuntu: it's not a download from them, or any place reallym, go to Google for their SDK
[07:12] <Tonisius> it's all included
[07:12] <Tonisius> http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/index.html
[07:12] <Tonisius> I just installed it on my win7 and ubuntu 11.04
[07:12] <Tonisius> but you're looking for specifics to just emulating android
[07:12] <Tonisius> qemu can do it
[07:13] <Tonisius> you just need to emulate the arch, and you're set
[07:13] <Tonisius> mikubuntu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QEMU  more info on QEMU
[07:13] <newzi> !upstart | FloodBot2
[07:13] <mikubuntu> Tonisius: k
[07:13] <Tonisius> use the ARM options, and you're set.  Of course you need an image to start with, and there are plenty floating around, including an image of your phone to use
[07:14] <newzi> !themes | Tonisius
[07:14] <Calinou> poor newzi
[07:14] <bazhang> newzi, stop that
[07:14] <Tonisius> newzi: thanks.... I guess
[07:14] <newzi> Calinou: :(
[07:14] <newzi> Haha ok soz guys
[07:15] <Tonisius> someone isn't seriously sorry
[07:15] <newzi> 4chan trollin?
[07:15] <Tonisius> it's like me saying "I am against MURDER, LOL" and saying I'm serious
[07:15] <bazhang> !ot | newzi
[07:15] <Tonisius> !ot | newzi
[07:15] <Tonisius> spammmm~
[07:16] <newzi> !guidelines | Tonisius
[07:16] <newzi> exit
[07:16] <mikubuntu> Tonisius: i had heard that android code was being merged directly into the linux kernel -- i guess thats what i was looking for, i think qemo is prolly over my head
[07:17] <OnlyMAJ> hi . i use ubuntu 12.04. i install autokey-gtk and when i run it, it's icon doesn't appear in taskbar on top ????
[07:17] <FloatingGoat_> if i where to backup with deja duppe and restore on a new install
[07:17] <FloatingGoat_> would my gnote(tomboy alternative) notes be kept?
[07:18] <OnlyMAJ>  i use ubuntu 12.04. i install autokey-gtk and when i run it, it's icon doesn't appear in taskbar on top ????
[07:23] <OnlyMAJ> i use ubuntu 12.04 with unity 2. i install autokey-gtk and when i run it,it's icon doen't appear in try icon. but i can achieve to it's option with autokey-gtk -c . it's special checkbox on perference menu was checked already . anyone have soloution ????
[07:24] <Tonisius> mikubuntu: what???
[07:24] <Tonisius> mikubuntu: you don't make any sense... it's always got some android code in it... it's directly contributed to kernel.org
[07:25] <FloatingGoat_> I accidently put my window border icons on the right side
[07:25] <FloatingGoat_> how do i get them back
[07:25] <mikubuntu> Tonisius: no, it was broken off and only recently is coming back into kernel -- that is my understanding
[07:26] <gordonjcp> FloatingGoat_: what, the minimise,maximise,close ones?
[07:26] <FloatingGoat_> yeah
[07:26] <FloatingGoat_> idk how they got there
[07:26] <gordonjcp> FloatingGoat_: yeah, you actually have to try quite hard to do that ;-)
[07:26] <FloatingGoat_> gordonjcp: im serious it must be a bug or something
[07:26] <gordonjcp> FloatingGoat_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1333115
[07:26] <Tonisius> mikubuntu: you should be asking some of these questions in Linux, or kernel.
[07:27] <FloatingGoat_> im suspecting i clicked the wrong button in myunity but idk
[07:27] <Tonisius> as those are specific
[07:27] <Tonisius> ubuntu people would most likely not know about this.
[07:27] <Tonisius> but regardless, since it's aboout kernel changes, Google is upfront and open sourced with all kernel changes.
[07:27] <Tonisius> check the SDK, as it has all the kernel sources, and the kernel versions they are based on
[07:28] <mikubuntu> Tonisius: no, i want to know when it's 'ubuntu-ready'
[07:28] <CAiRO-> Hi
[07:28] <nngger> hey guys, it;s not about ubuntu, but maybe you know:  why    some extensions just dissapear form extensions.gnome.org? For example: Weather indicator,
[07:28] <drcode> where can I aslk about amd card?
[07:28] <CAiRO-> Whenever I do backups (e.g with faubackup) it kills the fs cache from the kernel and then in the morning (the backups run at night) it takes ages to start firefox or other programs in gnome
[07:29] <CAiRO-> How can I make backups not kill the fs cache for my gui applications?
[07:29] <Tonisius> mikubuntu: oh!!! hmm, I'm assuming it comes down to versions that ubuntu will use. Check what verions have it at kernel.org, then you should ask "whatv ersions are in ubuntu"
[07:30] <mikubuntu> Tonisius: k, thx
[07:32] <sin_tax> is there a 'safe' command to shut down a headless ubuntu server?
[07:32] <llutz_> sin_tax: sudo halt
[07:33] <sin_tax> thanks llutz
[07:49] <adoniscik> how can I copy a bunch of files with spaces and quotes in them? I get "cannot stat" even when I surround them in quotes.
[07:50] <adoniscik> i meant apostrophes not quotes in the first sentences
[07:50] <adoniscik> the syntax I used was cp -t targetdir "long file 1" "long file 2"
[07:52] <drcode> I need help with amd 7750 under kubuntu 12.04 , please
[07:56] <IboS> !time
[07:56] <IboS> !weather
[07:56] <auronandace> !msgthebot | IboS
[08:00] <FloatingGoat> lets say i backed up about 200MB
[08:00] <FloatingGoat> how big would the deja dup file be?
[08:00] <d13604f6> cual es el tema del dia de today
[08:00] <llutz_> adoniscik: use single quotes
[08:01] <d13604f6> jaja
[08:02] <wurmphlegm> Moin
[08:06] <akis> could you please advise me how (under gnome) can i make an application to run from terminal every time i click its icon? in xubuntu is simple choosin to run form terminal with a right click. but in gnome? is thee any option for this?
[08:08] <Aaron> akis, make a shell script,
[08:08] <Aaron> easier
[08:08] <Aaron> but right click and create a launcher,
[08:09] <Kashida> Heythere, anyone able to answer some beginner questions?
[08:10] <[deXter]> Kashida, Don't ask to ask, just ask!
[08:12] <Kashida> Sure!! I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on my dell xps 15z, and having some issues. Attempting to check for updates fails, telling me that it can't download the repository information. The same thing happens when trying to install some packages through the software centre.
[08:13] <[deXter]> Do you have an active internet connection?
[08:13] <Kashida> That I do, I'm using the laptop now.
[08:14] <Kashida> Some people have had problems with it cutting out, but so far it seems stable, if a little slow.
[08:14] <akis> Aaron: how can i do this? i am new on gnome.
[08:14] <Aaron> akis, right click, and create a launcher and then put the info there that easy
[08:14] <[deXter]> Kashida, So does it fail every single time or just some times?
[08:15] <akis> ok, where do i have to right click to creat the launcher?
[08:15] <Kashida> In the update manager, every single time. With the software centre it's only certain programs. Trying to install VLC doesn't work either.
[08:16] <Aaron> akis, on you're desktop,
[08:16] <Aaron> don't click on any icons, though
[08:18] <[deXter]> Kashida, I think you could try selecting a different mirror
[08:19] <[deXter]> In the Ubuntu Software Center, go to Edit -> Software Sources in the menu. Under the Ubuntu Software tab there's a drop-down next to "Download from:" If you select "Other..." you'll get a button that says "Select Best Server"
[08:20] <akis> right click on desktop gives me only 'create new folder' & 'create new document'
[08:22] <Kashida> That seems to have worked, thanks!!
[08:24] <ScottHarrison> akis, what were you expecting?
[08:25] <akis> i am trying to make an application to run through terminal under gnome. althought in kubuntu/xubuntu is easy to do it, i dont know how to do it under gnome. could you please help me?
[08:26] <ikonia> akis: what application ?
[08:26] <ikonia> akis: why is it different in kubuntu/xubuntu, the terminal is the same
[08:27] <akis> yep. the same, but in xubuntu you can make a right click at application's icon and choose run from application iving a special comman every time to force it to open. how can i do the same under gnoem?
[08:27] <ikonia> akis: what is the application you are trying to run ?
[08:27] <ikonia> akis: not all applications will run in a terminal
[08:28] <akis> unetbootin. it runs under xubuntu without any problem pre-choosing the language
[08:29] <Kashida> deXter, I just tested it with VLC and everything seems to work. Might I also ask what the difference between the amd64 and i1386 installations of Ubuntu are? Is it just for either an Intel or an AMD CPU?
[08:29] <ikonia> akis: unetbootin is a gui tool
[08:29] <ScottHarrison> Kashida, no, it's simply for 32bit or 64bit architecture.
[08:29] <[deXter]> Kashida, AMD64 just means it's 64bit, which is what you should go for, since most desktop CPUs today are 64 bit
[08:30] <akis> i want every time that unetbootin starts to execute this command: unetbootin lang=en. under xubuntu i make it work.
[08:30] <ScottHarrison> Kashida, so an Intel i7 processor would still use the amd64 installer
[08:30] <ikonia> akis: is your native language not English in ubuntu ?
[08:31] <akis> my 2nd lang is greek and unetbootin opens in grek language. but as i am using english interface i want to see it also in english.
[08:31] <Npc> ScottHarrison: yes
[08:32] <ikonia> akis: is ubuntu set to english or greek as it's language
[08:32] <ScottHarrison> Npc, lol, thanks but I was just explaining that to Kashida, not asking the question. ;)
[08:33] <Kashida> Ah, thanks for that. I tried installing the 64bit build first, but never got past the screen asking if I'd like to boot from the usb or install to the harddrive. It always froze, so I tried the 32bit build. Any idea why? The laptop is running 64bit W7, so it should be able to handle it.
[08:34] <[deXter]> Kashida, the AMD64 platform is so called because AMD was the first to come out with real 64bit desktop CPUs.
[08:34] <Wizrd> Kashida, that is an issue with unetbootin
[08:34] <Wizrd> I had the same problem with my i7
[08:34] <Kashida> Wizrd, what do I do about it?
[08:34] <akis> english: dialogues. greek: just to have the option to write. but it isnt that the point. i am running next to me xubuntu with the same configuration and i manage to make unetbootin start in english using the above command. how can i fdo the same in gnome. that's the point. how can i give permanenty this command to be ececuted every time unetbootin starts.
[08:35] <Wizrd> I burnt the iso to a cd and started it from an external usb cd rom
[08:35] <ikonia> akis: please answer the actual question. Is your ubuntu install's default language set to English or Greek
[08:36] <ikonia> actually - don't bother, I've lost interest trying to actually get information out of you. Good luck.
[08:36] <juan__> Join #Ubuntu-es
[08:36] <juan__> # Join Ubuntu-es
[08:36] <juan__> Hello.
[08:36] <akis> greek is my 2nd lang to have the option to right in that lang. it is set also for time/date etc. everything else is in eng lang. so simple.
[08:36] <ikonia> juan__: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:37] <juan__> Thank you ikonia
[08:37] <Wizrd> Kashida, there is also an issue that most usb sticks tend to use sector 1024 as a start instead of 0. By putting the iso on an external USB drive you might get lucy to install from that
[08:38] <Wizrd> thats why I keep an old 8Gb HD as external drive
[08:38] <rpgsimmaster> Hello all. I am having a bit of an issue, it's driving me nuts and I can't resolve it: I am attempting to use curl, but it's refusing to connect to hosts. It's saying "curl: (7) couldn't connect to host", but everything else I've used on the system seems to be fine.
[08:38] <rpgsimmaster> The closest I've got is to it being related to IPv6 possibly - I tried 'curl www.google.com' and got "Failed to connect to 2404:6800:4006:801::1007: Network is unreachable"
[08:39] <rpgsimmaster> I've disabled IPv6 in sysctl.conf, but that didn't help. My network router is *not* IPv6 enabled.
[08:39] <ikonia> rpgsimmaster: please type "nslookup www.google.com"
[08:39] <ikonia> rpgsimmaster: what ip address do you get back ?
[08:39] <rpgsimmaster> nslookup www.google.com
[08:39] <rpgsimmaster> whoops, um
[08:39] <rpgsimmaster> 74.125.237.52
[08:39] <FloodBot1> rpgsimmaster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:41] <rpgsimmaster> I tried a few google terms but, since I'm not actually sure where the issue is, I haven't had much success in finding any useful suggestions besides disabling IPv6
[08:41] <ikonia> rpgsimmaster: please pastebin the output of nslookup www.google.co.uk
[08:42] <rpgsimmaster> http://pastebin.com/WMXHvus5
[08:42] <ikonia> rpgsimmaster: ok, so that's not responding to a ipv6 address
[08:43] <ikonia> rpgsimmaster: curl 74.125.237.56
[08:43] <rpgsimmaster> That works
[08:43] <rpgsimmaster> ...
[08:43] <ikonia> rpgsimmaster: ok, now "curl http://www.google.com"
[08:45] <rpgsimmaster> curl www.google.co.uk works fine, but curl http://www.google.com returns: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
[08:45] <rpgsimmaster> http://pastebin.com/aQZDuNjS <-- just so we're clear what nslookup www.google.com returns
[08:46] <ikonia> rpgsimmaster: so only when you put http in front of it it fails
[08:47] <rpgsimmaster> Ah. Apparently so
[08:47] <rpgsimmaster> Er, not quite, actually
[08:48] <rpgsimmaster> ...apparently any domain starts working *after* I run nslookup against it
[08:48] <ikonia> rpgsimmaster: sounds like you may have some bad dns cachced
[08:48] <ikonia> cached
[08:48] <rpgsimmaster> So it appears.
[08:49] <lluoc> Umm, not sure if this is the right place but anyway. I live in Australia and I started a descktop ubuntu image download and it redirected me to a  mirror in the UK. Though this might be odd as the mirror was 'melbourne.co.uk'. If you don't know, Melbourne is also a city in Australia...
[08:49] <sysnod1359> hello. my ubuntu system filesystem is corrupted. i need to run fsck but I need to unmount my hdd before i can run fsck. could someone help me with it. whenever i run umount /dev/xvda1  umount: /: device is busy
[08:50] <ikonia> sysnod1359: run it from a livecd
[08:50] <sysnod1359> i am running it on a server
[08:50] <sysnod1359> a remote server
[08:50] <ikonia> sysnod1359: so ? run it from a livecd
[08:50] <sysnod1359> run it from a liveCD on a remote server?
[08:51] <sysnod1359> @ikonia...ok i'll try
[08:51] <llutz_> sysnod1359: "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo reboot"
[08:51] <ikonia> sysnod1359: yes, or ask one of the data center team to do it
[08:51] <sysnod1359> ok
[08:51] <ilias> hi all. i am running dolhin under ubuntu/gnome. is there any way to change oxygen interface to make it more native to gnome?
[08:51] <chovynz> lluoc: so whats the issue?
[08:52] <lluoc> The mirror speed as ~180kbs...
[08:53] <bekks> lluoc: Then just choose another mirror.
[08:53] <lluoc> I did. The issue was more that the site assignend me a rather odd mirror.
[08:54] <chovynz> lluoc: nonissue isn't it? the power is in your hands.
[08:54] <bekks> lluoc: You can also choose a mirror manually.
[08:54] <lluoc> And with the host name I was wondering if there could possibly be some link between the host name and me being assigned it.
[08:54] <claymarzo> !lista
[08:54] <lluoc> @bekks: Already did
[08:54] <bekks> lluoc: Why did you choose the same slow mirror manually then? :)
[08:55] <lenochka>  any idea what is the direct equivalent of x permission on a dir in windows?
[08:56] <bekks> lenochka: There is no direct equivalent, since Windows does not use POSIX permissions.
[08:56] <kadir> halo
[08:56] <lenochka> bekks: OK, but something similar then?
[08:56] <lluoc> bekks: I didn't. I was assigned the slow mirror when usiong the main download link at www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[08:57] <bekks> lenochka: No. Windows uses a totally different permission concept.
[08:57] <lluoc> bekks: I chose a closer mirror after and maxed out my connection speed.
[08:57] <lenochka> bekks: ok....
[08:57] <bekks> lenochka: Whats the specific question causing you to ask?
[08:58] <llutz_> lenochka: "traverse directory/execute file"
[08:58] <lenochka> llutz_: no, doesnt work
[08:58] <bekks> lenochka: "doesnt work" is not a specific error message - what are you trying to do?
[08:58] <lenochka> bekks: well, the question is that I need to allow users to get to the folder but not list its contents
[08:59] <lenochka> bekks: doesnt work in the sense that it doesnt do what it is supposed to
[08:59] <bekks> lenochka: And how is that windows problem related to Ubuntu?
[08:59] <rpgsimmaster> Alas, I'm still having issues. I took away what you said, ikonia, but I'm still unable to fix the issue.  The DNS issue persists - I have tried the following: restarting networking; restarting dns-clean; adding Google's nameserver 8.8.8.8 to all network connections in NetworkManager and enabling 'Require IPv4 addressing for this connection to complete' and, finally, restarting. Alas, to no avail. What do you recommend as my next step?
[08:59] <lenochka> bekks: well, not directly related...
[09:00] <bekks> lenochka: Then not directly supported in here :)
[09:00] <lenochka> bekks: just asking, thought someone would know
[09:00] <vartotojas> hello guys. i need some help with some files location.. ive installed one game and now i cant find it where its installed
[09:01] <vartotojas> can anyone tell me where to look for it?
[09:01] <arijit> do a find vartotojas
[09:01] <bazhang> vartotojas, installed how
[09:01] <vartotojas> bazhang: lineage2 with wine Oo
[09:01] <vartotojas> arijit:  how? Oo
[09:02] <arijit> vartotojas: do you know the game binary name ?
[09:02] <vartotojas> ncsoft i think
[09:03] <arijit> you can do a find / -name "*ncsoft*" -print 2>dev/null
[09:03] <arijit> or something
[09:04] <countley> if i use a gnome app on kde will it messup my operating system
[09:04] <bazhang> countley, no
[09:04] <vartotojas> are there any other ways to look for it?
[09:04] <countley> ok
[09:04] <vartotojas> i mean, it should be installed somewhere
[09:04] <llutz_> vartotojas: find .wine -iname '*lineage*'
[09:05] <arijit> countley: you probably need the gnome libraries too
[09:06] <arijit> and you can end up with lots of gnome libraries on your KDE environmnet
[09:06] <arijit> to run a single gnome app
[09:06] <bekks> Today, space is cheap.
[09:07] <arijit> more than space ,it makes your system messy
[09:07] <bekks> It doesnt.
[09:07] <bazhang> arijit, thats not correct
[09:07] <countley> is that bad arijt
[09:07] <bekks> countley: No. Do not believe him.
[09:07] <bazhang> countley, dont list to what he said
[09:07] <bazhang> err listen
[09:07] <arijit> bazhang: the Linux philosphy was keep it simple always
[09:08] <bazhang> arijit, that is not related to this at all
[09:08] <arijit> bazhang: do you suggest a ton of gnome library installations to run a single gnope app on kde
[09:08] <bazhang> arijit, lets just move on
[09:08] <arijit> maybe a similar app is available for KDE too
[09:09] <countley> the app is sound converter
[09:09] <bazhang> countley, its fine, install it
[09:09] <arijit> countley: you can search similar app for KDE
[09:09] <llutz_> countley: theres is "soundkonverter" for kde, dont know if that does your job
[09:10] <countley> ok ill try that one cheers
[09:12] <vartotojas_> llutz:  hey man, i got this directory
[09:12] <vartotojas_> llutz: .wine/drive_c/Program Files/NCsoft/Lineage II/
[09:13] <vartotojas_> llutz: still dunno where to find those Program files :D
[09:13] <fw190> morning
[09:13] <til4k> attempting to troubleshoot the fact I have to turn speakers to 0 in alsamixer and master up to hear out of my headphones, I ran the command in step 1 on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[09:13] <fw190> I'm just a step from filling a bug but thought to as here first
[09:13] <til4k> the result was not only did it fix my problem, but ubuntu is about three times faster and 5x crisper
[09:13] <til4k> what did the command do, wise ones who understand this stuff
[09:13] <llutz_> vartotojas: i'd guess inside that dir, or do you mean location in the menu?
[09:13] <fw190> when I minimize writer in Unity it sometimes doesn't show u
[09:13] <til4k> ive been running this install for 3 mos and it resolved like all my problems
[09:14] <fw190> and I have to start the file from the folder again
[09:14] <vartotojas_> inside the dir
[09:14] <vartotojas_> i need to open that folder and changee some files
[09:14] <vartotojas_> dunno where i can fine program files directory
[09:15] <llutz_> vartotojas:  ".wine/drive_c/Program Files/NCsoft/Lineage II/"  seems to be the dir youre looking for. open it in nautilus and look for the files to change
[09:15] <vartotojas_> im opening my computer, my partition and boom, theres no program files Oo
[09:16] <Sven_vB> hi
[09:16] <vartotojas_> and how do i open nautilus?
[09:17] <llutz_> vartotojas: ahem, isnt there a starter or something like that for "filemanager"? sry, i dont use gnome/unity
[09:17] <Calinou> vartotojas_: ctrl+alt+t nautilus
[09:17] <Calinou> TADA!
[09:17] <Calinou> :P
[09:18] <unipol> list!
[09:18] <unipol> help
[09:18] <vartotojas_> Calinou:
[09:18] <bekks> !list | unipol
[09:18] <vartotojas_> how do i open .wine/drive_c/Program Files/NCsoft/Lineage II/ this dir?
[09:18] <sysnod1359> i ran a  the command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo reboot " ----> any idea how long with the fsck take?
[09:18] <sysnod1359> will*
[09:19] <bekks> sysnod1359: minutes or hours.
[09:19] <sysnod1359> oh ok.
[09:19] <IdleOne> sysnod1359: depends on size of drive.
[09:19] <bekks> sysnod1359: How large is that filesystem?
[09:19] <sysnod1359> i suppose until the fsck is not over, i wont be able to ssh in?
[09:19] <sysnod1359> 10gb
[09:19] <llutz_> sysnod1359: what filesystem and what size for /?
[09:19] <llutz_> that shouldnt take too long
[09:20] <SwedeMike> few minutes max.
[09:20] <sysnod1359> oh ok. because i cant ssh anymore into the system
[09:20] <sysnod1359> i might have to restart from the console
[09:20] <IdleOne> sysnod1359: wait for the fsck to finish
[09:20] <sysnod1359> ok
[09:21] <llutz_> sysnod1359: fsck pauses the boot-process, so sshd wonÄt be started until fsck finishes
[09:21] <sysnod1359> ok. thanks. noted
[09:22] <llutz_> grr, anyone have a new '-key for me :(
[09:22] <Gorlist> Hi, im running a ubuntu 12.04 server, having problems with Postfix - however nothing can be sent SMTP
[09:23] <Gorlist> it works fine on reciving etc
[09:23] <llutz_> Gorlist: check logs why mails aren't sent
[09:23] <Gorlist> this is the problem, nothing is appear in the logs
[09:23] <Gorlist> it seems as if a "port" is blocked, however Qmail works fine
[09:24] <bekks> Gorlist: Then a port cant be blocked, since qmail uses the same port.
[09:24] <Gorlist> exactly
[09:24] <Rudeboy> Is anyone using a Dell XPS15 here?
[09:24] <bekks> Then run postfix with a higher debug / log level.
[09:25] <bekks> Rudeboy: Why?
[09:25] <llutz_> Gorlist: increase debugverbosity and check logs again
[09:26] <llutz_> Gorlist: there's #postfix too, maybe they could help
[09:26] <Gorlist> thanks, looking now
[09:26] <Rudeboy> I have a graphics question, Bumblebee specifically. THis is my scenario: last time I ran Updates via the Update Manager, I lost all visual effects and my graphics weren't smooth anymore. Then I tried to install BUmbleBee, ended up having a tiny column of screen space and had to eventually re-install Ubuntu. Trying to figure out what to do now, cause I want to install Updates, but dn't want to lose my full graphics
[09:27] <vartotojas> i cant program files directory -.-
[09:27] <Rudeboy> Does that make sense?
[09:28] <vartotojas> i cant fine program files directory -.- **
[09:28] <vartotojas> i cant find program files directory -.- **
[09:28] <vartotojas> damn it
[09:28] <bekks> vartotojas: cd ~/.wine
[09:28] <bekks> There you go... in a terminal :)
[09:28] <blackshirt> vartotojas, what you mean? This is not windows
[09:28] <bekks> Or press ctrl+h to enable the display of hiden folders.
[09:29] <bonno> hello ..i am having some trouble with my pc.. the last week has crashed 3 times (2 of them was during the night when i leave it running sometimes)  i am getting a screen where mouse and kayboard dont work...what might be the problem?
[09:29] <vartotojas> bekks: it does not open the directory
[09:30] <bekks> vartotojas: And what happens instead?
[09:30] <blackshirt> bonno, is screensaver cauaed them?
[09:30] <blackshirt> caused
[09:30] <daddy> bonno : did you check the batteries?
[09:30] <vartotojas> bekks: vartotojas@vartotojas-Aspire-5738:~$ cd ~/.wine
[09:30] <vartotojas> vartotojas@vartotojas-Aspire-5738:~/.wine$
[09:30] <bonno> i have disable screensaver..i just close manually the screen
[09:30] <bonno> no batteries..
[09:30] <bonno> its a tower-pc
[09:31] <blackshirt> bonno, some power management?
[09:31] <bekks> vartotojas: Works as expected. You changed the directory to ~/.wine
[09:31] <bonno> power is fine..i have UPS controlling the power
[09:31] <vartotojas> and how do i have to open that dir?
[09:32] <vartotojas> i need to modify some files
[09:32] <vartotojas> i mean, i installed lineage2 and now i need to change some files on its system folder
[09:32] <bekks> vartotojas: You dont need to open the directory in nautilus to edit files.
[09:32] <llutz_> vartotojas:  nautilus "~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/NCsoft/Lineage II/"
[09:32] <bonno> my pc crashes..files is a minor problem :P :P lol
[09:32] <bekks> Or even that.
[09:33] <fathima> I installed ububtu 11.10. But no internet connection through Ethernet ant wifi
[09:34] <bonno> any ideas?
[09:35] <fathima> why toshiba satelite c850-p5010 not workig wifi and ethernet in ububtu????
[09:36] <bonno> drivers not installed maybe fathima
[09:37] <solsTiCe> hi. So i Just instlled ubuntu 12.04.01 on my netboook. And i am a pleased custmer ;-) expect it bugs me with with a partial upgrade needed and when I said ok it failed it eems to froze :-(
[09:38] <eliteprodigy> trying to install ubuntu 12.4 LTS 64 bit on an HP Pavilion with 8Gb DDR3 RAM, AMD Athalon II 650 3.2Ghz but the screen keeps "Sleeping" during install but will not wake.
[09:39] <eliteprodigy> I set the screen sleep timer to never during install through system settings on the live disc.
[09:39] <solsTiCe> ok. I missed a dialog and clicked ok. hoping for the good now
[09:39] <ILikeMoose> anyone have an idea on this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2058085
[09:40] <thenewsguy> Hello
[09:40] <enyc> eliteprodigy: im not gfamilair with that issue.  maybe you could get the text/alternate  intall ?
[09:40] <solsTiCe> argh no good. trying yo install vlc with softare center gives "package operation failed." oh my
[09:40] <vitimiti> hola
[09:40] <thenewsguy> solsTiCe: did you apt-get?
[09:41] <eliteprodigy> enyc the problem continues into running the system, enyc
[09:42] <enyc> eliteprodigy: hrrm  i wonder if it is powermgmt related
[09:42] <solsTiCe> at one time I run a apt-get install -f because it aks me to do so. and then a dpkg configure -a to finish install a drm driver for cedar trail. but seems to fial.
[09:42] <eliteprodigy> I'm dual-loading ubuntu/win7 no probs in 7
[09:42] <solsTiCe> thenewsguy: ^
[09:42] <eliteprodigy> I have a similar issue with Fedora.
[09:42] <enyc> eliteprodigy: bios-upgrade, i have found to fix some weird things like that ... it could be anything =(
[09:43] <sunil__> hello ,i have recently installed software called fsl but cound not start it .....please see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222125/
[09:43] <eliteprodigy> Fedora installs fine (since it doesn't last long enough to black the screen) but when it sleeps the screen won't come on.
[09:43] <enyc> eliteprodigy: nodsnods
[09:43] <eliteprodigy> However, when I manually suspend, it comes right back.
[09:43] <eliteprodigy> how does one go about updating a bios?
[09:44] <enyc> eliteprodigy: my instinct would be to try updated bios, if available,  out of interest.  i've had ACPI related nonsense before...
[09:44] <bonno> any ideas why my computer crashes/freezes ?
[09:44] <eliteprodigy> This machine is fairly new <1yr, and I've never done that.
[09:44] <enyc> eliteprodigy: but it could equally be nothing to do with that =)
[09:44] <enyc> eliteprodigy: usually HP etc. will give you a tool that does it
[09:44] <enyc> eliteprodigy: sometimes via bootdisk, sometimes via windows binary, etc.
[09:44] <enyc> eliteprodigy: traditionally it was done with dos boot disk but many manufacturers have moved to mini iso images etc
[09:45] <sunil__> anyone please help me
[09:45] <sunil__> hello ,i have recently installed software called fsl but cound not start it .....please see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222125/
[09:45] <enyc> eliteprodigy: it can be graphics card related and allsorts i dont have a specific answer =)
[09:45] <eliteprodigy> I'm assuming it's somewhere is system restore or windows or something because I didn't get any discs, all hidden drive images.
[09:45] <enyc> eliteprodigy: lok on hp's support site for your model
[09:45] <almoxarife> eliteprodigy: is yours a intel system?
[09:46] <enyc> it could be graphics realted... depending how these things work...
[09:47] <humbolt> I am wondering how GlusterFS behaves, if I have 3 HDDs each in three nodes and I set replication count to 3. Will I end up with all 3 replica on disks/bricks of just one node?
[09:47] <enyc> it could be acpi tables in bios bug.. i've had that before too =)
[09:49] <ILikeMoose> can someone help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2058085
[09:49] <thenewsguy> enyc, Update your BIOS
[09:50] <thenewsguy> ILikeMoose, have you installed drivers for the nvidia card?
[09:50] <ILikeMoose> thenewsguy, yes
[09:51] <bonno> moose :P
[09:51] <Gorlist> Sep 23 10:48:57 postfix/smtpd[3684]: warning: connect to Milter service inet:localhost:12768: Connection refused
[09:51] <Gorlist> thats I believe is the cause
[09:51] <Gorlist> telnet works fine on 12768 however
[09:51] <thenewsguy> ILikeMoose, have you verified the checksum of the ubuntu ISO you downloaded?
[09:52] <thenewsguy> ILikeMoose, if it was working, then you installed...
[09:52] <ILikeMoose> thenewsguy, yes
[09:52] <fathima> @bono  How install drivers in ububtu for Toshiba satelite???
[09:52] <llutz_> Gorlist: check your configs (main.cf, master.cf)
[09:53] <Gorlist> llutz_: any suggestion on which area, ive already gone through them
[09:53] <thenewsguy> ILikeMoose, have you updated your GPU firmware?
[09:53] <bonno> i have no idea.. i would try Ubuntu Software Center
[09:53] <ILikeMoose> thenewsguy, i had it installed on an external hd and it was working, when i replaced that with an internal and reinstalled it dropped the resolution, same disc
[09:53] <mahdy> hi friends
[09:53] <bonno> fathima
[09:53] <fathima> no internet on toshiba satelite with ubuntu 11.10
[09:53] <thenewsguy> ILikeMoose, try install it from a USB
[09:53] <fathima> ya bonno
[09:53] <ILikeMoose> thenewsguy, no i haven't updated any firmware other than my bios
[09:53] <thenewsguy> ILikeMoose, the CD might be faulty
[09:54] <ILikeMoose> thenewsguy, doesn't work on this pc
[09:54] <thenewsguy> ILikeMoose, you have no usb ports?
[09:54] <ILikeMoose> i've checked the cd, it's fine
[09:54] <thenewsguy> Hmm
[09:54] <thenewsguy> hold on
[09:54] <ILikeMoose> thenewsguy, it doesn't like booting from my usb stick
[09:54] <mahdy> i recreate initrd.lz and change plymoth theme in lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth but default theme still appears in live mode , why ? any idea ?
[09:56] <thenewsguy> ILikeMoose, try this: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:56] <thenewsguy> ILikeMoose, and edit "Section "Screen"
[09:56] <thenewsguy>      Identifier "Default Screen"
[09:56] <thenewsguy>      Monitor    "Configured Monitor"
[09:56] <thenewsguy>      Device     "Configured Video Device"
[09:56] <thenewsguy>      Subsection "Display"
[09:56] <thenewsguy>          Modes      "1280x800"
[09:56] <FloodBot1> thenewsguy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:56] <fathima> cant connect to interet
[09:57] <ILikeMoose> thenewsguy, post it to my ubuntuforums post pleasee :)
[09:57] <greencat> hi all
[09:58] <llutz_> Gorlist: "grep milters /etc/postfix/main.cf"
[09:59] <bonno> any ideas why my screens freezes?
[10:00] <thenewsguy> ILikeMoose, Here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222149/
[10:00] <thenewsguy> ILikeMoose, I cant register for some reason
[10:00] <ILikeMoose> thenewsguy, ok
[10:00] <thenewsguy> I'm out all! Laters
[10:01] <akis> hi. i would like to run an application every time i click on it from terminal executing a special commad. is that possible under gnome?
[10:05] <mahdy> akis: yeah , everything is possible in gnome
[10:06] <akis> sure it is possible but how?
[10:06] <akaWolf> hello! why i can not see in iwconfig wlan0?
[10:07] <akaWolf> but ath5k kernel module in use
[10:07] <akaWolf> help me, please :)
[10:07] <bekks> akaWolf: ifconfig -a shows you all available interfaces.
[10:07] <akis> in xubuntu i do a right click on the icon of the application in main menu and i am choosing to run it from terminal giving the command i want to execute. but in gnome there is no right click for the icon's application
[10:08] <akaWolf> bekks: eth0, lo, vboxnet0
[10:09] <bekks> akaWolf: So there is no interface for your wifi at all. Check dmesg next.
[10:09] <bonno> akis you can use alt+f2  instead of terminal
[10:12] <akaWolf> bekks: what should i find?
[10:13] <bekks> akaWolf: Some hint on what happened after loading the ath5k module.
[10:14] <akaWolf> bekks: keywords? :)
[10:15] <bekks> akaWolf: "ath5k" or similar.
[10:15] <akaWolf> bekks: "ath5k" not found...
[10:16] <bekks> akaWolf: Then search for similar entries...
[10:17] <samara> a hug from arabia
[10:17] <bekks> akaWolf: Can you pastebin the entire output of dmesg please?
[10:17] <bekks> !paste | akaWolf
[10:17] <akaWolf> bekks: one moment =)
[10:19] <silverarrow> can someone clarify the situation with adobe flash for ubuntu? will there continue be one?
[10:19] <genschi> #
[10:21] <akaWolf> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222179/
[10:21] <samara> my husband will lear linux someday
[10:21] <dr_willis> fear?
[10:21] <dr_willis> ;-)
[10:22] <samara> I am not kidding
[10:22] <k3t3r> you married to bill gates
[10:22] <samara> the brazilian bill gates
[10:22] <silverarrow> or not it seems
[10:25] <N03L> Hey guys, I think it's about time I updated my Ubuntu 11.10 OS
[10:25] <bonno> i am thinking the same thing
[10:25] <N03L> People have been recommending that I update to the lates Ubuntu, but have also been suggesting that I switch to Debian
[10:25] <fdge> what makes you think that?
[10:25] <N03L> latest*
[10:26] <arijit> which HP laptop models work great on linux or in Ubuntu ?
[10:26] <N03L> Which one is better?
[10:27] <dr_willis> silly irc client crashing....
[10:27] <akaWolf> bekks: i can not find...
[10:27] <fdge> when it comes to linux, better is "which one are you familier with?"
[10:28] <N03L> At the moment, I've only ever used one Linux based OS, which is Ubuntu (11.10)
[10:29] <N03L> I'm leaning to towards updating to the latest Ubuntu, however, I don't know how to go about doing that.
[10:29] <obounaim> N03l: switch to 12.04 LTS
[10:29] <dr_willis> 12.10 will be a nice jump when it gets here
[10:29] <N03L> Because at the moment, I'm dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu
[10:29] <fdge> N03L, "do-update-release"
[10:29] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[10:30] <reade> N03L: Debian is similar in a lot of ways, but it generally requires a little more work. On the upside, that means you learn a bit more about how things work.
[10:30] <dr_willis> i tend to do clean installs. i test a lot of stuff.
[10:30] <obounaim> Yes Debian is very good distribution
[10:32] <N03L> I'm also afraid that the upgrade will mess up my settings and stuff.
[10:32] <dr_willis> what settings
[10:32] <N03L> Ever since I first installed ubuntu 11.10, I never allowed any updates, because some update didn't allow me to dual monitor
[10:33] <N03L> It did, but only as a mirror, not as an extended monitor.
[10:33] <akaWolf> bekks: hm?
[10:33] <N03L> So I reinstalled and just left it as it was.
[10:33] <dr_willis> N03L:  sounds like a 'windows' mindset thinking to me
[10:34] <dr_willis> N03L:  whats your video chipset?
[10:34] <akis> any idea why tv zapping gives that it cannot open /dev/video0 although my usb tv card is recognized from ubuntu and vlc detected it at this port?
[10:35] <Calinou> dr_willis: yay, with ads :p
[10:35] <Calinou> and more slowness
[10:35] <akaWolf> why i can not see on my laptop in iwconfig wlan0? but ath5k kernel module in use...
[10:35] <dr_willis> never heard of 'tv zapping'
[10:36] <dr_willis> akaWolf:  it may be some other name, what does ifconfig  show?
[10:36] <akis> http://zapping.sourceforge.net/Zapping/index.html
[10:36] <akaWolf> dr_willis: nothing to wireless
[10:36] <dr_willis> or was it ipconfig
[10:37] <dr_willis> ive had wireless  cards show up as eth1 and so forth
[10:37] <N03L> dr_willis: I think it may be because I installed it in Windows.
[10:37] <akaWolf> dr_willis: ifconfig -a: eth0, lo, vboxnet0
[10:38] <dr_willis> N03L:  you did a wubi install 'insidee' windows? ewwww
[10:38] <N03L> As in I didn't go through the manuak process of creating a partition etc. I chose the Install in Windows option
[10:38] <N03L> Yeah.
[10:38] <N03L> Is that bad?
[10:38] <dr_willis> akaWolf:  id check dmesg, see if it mentions the card.
[10:38] <Calinou> yeah; wubi causes people to "eww"
[10:38] <Calinou> with no apparent reason
[10:38] <dr_willis> wubi is ok to play with.  but not a long term solution
[10:38] <akaWolf> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222179/
[10:39] <dr_willis> wubi exploding on updates, upgrades, and other genral failures = ewww
[10:39] <N03L> Oh ok. So if I were to upgrade to the latest Ubunut, it's best if I didn't Wubi it?
[10:39] <N03L> Would that mean I'd have to backup all my files etc.?
[10:39] <dr_willis> i would NOT upgrade a wubi install
[10:39] <N03L> Start from scratch.
[10:39] <dr_willis> you should allready keep backups
[10:39] <blackshirt> i think wubi was for people from windows to try linux on their windows
[10:39] <solsTiCe> so I forgot to check "install mp3 support" during install and totem redfuse to play an aviµ. What do I need to install for it to ork ?
[10:40] <dr_willis> solsTiCe:  depends on the codec of the avi. install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' for a start
[10:40] <solsTiCe> ok
[10:40] <akaWolf> dr_willis: are you can see on log? :)
[10:40] <blackshirt> solstice, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:40] <akaWolf> or to*
[10:40] <akaWolf> =)_
[10:41] <dr_willis> akaWolf:  im on my phone so web surfing is slooooow..
[10:41] <N03L> Okay. SO to make the switch, I would have to uninstal my current Ubunut via Windows (wubi) and then just install the latest Ubuntu?
[10:41] <akaWolf> dr_willis: sorrow...
[10:41] <akaWolf> dr_willis: what are keywords for find in log?
[10:43] <bekks> akaWolf: Can you provide the output of "lsmod|sort" too, please?
[10:43] <dr_willis> akaWolf:  this is a real machine, not a ubuntu install IN a vbox vm
[10:43] <akaWolf> dr_willis: real
[10:43] <akaWolf> bekks: ok
[10:44] <bekks> akaWolf: And please provide the output of "lsb_release -a" too.
[10:44] <dr_willis> had a guy last week trying to acces his wifi card direcltly from inside a vm. ;)
[10:46] <akaWolf> bekks: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20759199/loglsmod.txt
[10:46] <akaWolf> bekks: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20759199/loglsbrelease.txt
[10:46] <akaWolf> dr_willis: fire guys =)
[10:47] <bekks> akaWolf: There is no ath5k loaded at all.
[10:47] <bekks> akaWolf: Fixed. Next. :)
[10:47] <akaWolf> bekks: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20759199/loglspci.txt -- here ath5k
[10:48] <bekks> akaWolf: But there is no ath5k module loaded as you stated.
[10:48] <bekks> akaWolf: Please provide the output of "lsb_release -a" too.
[10:49] <akaWolf> bekks: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20759199/loglsbrelease.txt
[10:49] <bekks> akaWolf: Ubuntu 9.10 isnt supported here for a long time now. Please upgrade to a supported release.
[10:49] <akaWolf> =)))
[10:50] <akaWolf> bekks: thanks :)
[10:51] <dr_willis> been a lot of improvemrnts in wifi since 9.10
[10:52] <L30n0v> hi all
[10:52] <L30n0v> quick question about TOR
[10:52] <akaWolf> bekks: after last update, it has broken sound and a few other things... =)
[10:53] <bekks> akaWolf: Still, 9.10 isnt supported anymore.
[10:53] <L30n0v> when i weak my laptop from sleep i cannot connect to any of th TOR networks
[10:54] <L30n0v> and cannot restart it because it gives me some bs about starting
[10:54] <bekks> L30n0v: "bs"?
[10:54] <L30n0v> yeah, "bulls***"
[10:55] <bekks> L30n0v: Well, without specific error messages, we cant help you.
[10:55] <stefan2_> #svn-dev
[10:56] <L30n0v> to be exact this is the message "Faild to parse/validate config: Faild to bind one of the listener ports"
[10:57] <layke__> If I drop a bash script in /etc/cron.daily/ do I still need to add the cron? Or is everything automatically executed daily?
[10:57] <Marcellus> Hello
[10:57] <blackshirt> hello marcellus
[10:57] <L30n0v> @bekks: also have warning message about /var/tor not owned by my user
[10:57] <Marcellus> I'm having r=trouble playing the Indie game SPAZ
[10:58] <Marcellus> trouble*
[10:58] <blackshirt> marcellus, is that a windows game?
[10:58] <Marcellus> Linux, Mac and WIndows
[10:58] <Marcellus> Part of the Humble Indie Bundle
[10:58] <blackshirt> marcellus, have you installed it correctly on linux?
[10:59] <Marcellus> I read about it in the Ubuntu site
[10:59] <Marcellus> I think I have
[10:59] <Marcellus> I dragged the .bin into Terminal and that created a folder named 'SPAZ'
[11:00] <WarOfTheNerd> Marcellus, why use the binary?
[11:00] <Marcellus> When I try to run the game I get the error:
[11:00] <WarOfTheNerd> use the package instead! :)
[11:00] <Marcellus> lolwut?
[11:00] <Marcellus> I'm a linux noob :/
[11:01] <N03L> I am too
[11:01] <Marcellus> That's the package I got when I bought it
[11:01] <L30n0v> @bekks also this in log: "[Warning] Before Tor can create a control socket in "/var/run/tor/control", the directory "/var/run/tor" needs to exist, and to be accessible only by the user account that is running Tor.  (On some Unix systems, anybody who can list a socket can conect to it, so Tor is being careful.)"
[11:01] <WarOfTheNerd> Marcellus, on the Humble Indie Bundle page use the Ubuntu Software Centre button
[11:01] <N03L> Going to upgrade now. Hope it's worth it.
[11:01] <L30n0v> @bekks and there is that dir
[11:02] <Marcellus> oh, didn't see that, thanks!
[11:02] <L30n0v> @bekks and i gave permission for my user during tor installation
[11:03] <WarOfTheNerd> Marcellus, it's the first thing you should use on newer bundles; though some packages are still broken
[11:03] <WarOfTheNerd> Marcellus, like Bit.Trip Beat is still broken for me from the Android bundle
[11:03] <afidegnum> hello good morning all, pls anyone ever tried connecting a 3G modem to Ubuntu b4? I am having problem here.
[11:04] <afidegnum> I am using Huawei e303
[11:04] <solsTiCe> First time I instllaed, it suggested to install cedar trail drm driver. not this time ? I did not even know what cedar trail is ? some related to intel cpu.
[11:04] <WarOfTheNerd> afidegnum, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2008275
[11:04] <WarOfTheNerd> afidegnum, have you tried this; it's the top google result for Huawei e303 on Ubuntu
[11:06] <afidegnum> WarOfTheNerd: I tried it already and it didn't work
[11:07] <WarOfTheNerd> afidegnum, which Ubuntu version are you on by the way?
[11:08] <afidegnum> WarOfTheNerd: I am using ubuntu 12.04
[11:09] <ade> I have just had apport run and then fail to upload the bug (Bad Gateway), does anyone know if there is a way to find previous errors found by the system so I can resend the bug??
[11:09] <WarOfTheNerd> afidegnum, http://sgolubtsova.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/installing-huawei-hilink-3g-modem.html
[11:09] <solsTiCe> what's the "best" way to install dropbox ? with software center or with deb from dropbox site ?
[11:10] <WarOfTheNerd> afidegnum, those are the manual install steps for if Ubuntu can't do it automatically; it applies to ArchLinux but works mostly for Ubuntu too
[11:10] <afidegnum> WarOfTheNerd: thanks let me try
[11:11] <Stanley00> solsTiCe: I prefer installing via Ubuntu Software Center
[11:11] <WarOfTheNerd> solsTiCe, Ubuntu Software Centre integrates updates/patches for you
[11:12] <WarOfTheNerd> solsTiCe, it also helps guarantee support across releases
[11:12] <WarOfTheNerd> solsTiCe, (because, what it does, is it adds a repo for updates when you install 3rd party apps)
[11:12] <Priyans> Hello, wanted to know why cant I have TinyOS and Arduino Linux IDE installed together on Ubuntu ?
[11:12] <Surio> Hello room, Installed Ubuntu 12.04 desktop using VMWare player 5.0
[11:12] <Surio> Now I am facing a problem with this
[11:13] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, what is the problem? :)
[11:14] <Surio> Thanks @Warofthenerd
[11:14] <layke__> This is fine right? * * * * * root cd /home/ubuntu/ && ./check_mount  >> /var/log/syslog
[11:14] <Surio> The screen resolution flickers during login, and then I am left with wallpaper
[11:14] <layke__> For a crontab
[11:14] <Surio> but neither the icons nor the top menu is shown
[11:14] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, choose Unity 2D from the list on the login screen
[11:15] <akaWolf> bekks: sudo apg-get dist-upgrade?
[11:15] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, you see next to the username there's like a mini Ubuntu logo?   Click it and see if you can pick Unity 2D
[11:15] <Surio> Where exactly do I try it?
[11:15] <Surio> Ahh. OK. Let me try it now. I am starting up
[11:16] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, the reason it's not working so well is because until VMWare Tools is installed; 3D graphics does not work.  Unity needs 3D graphics by default on 12.04, once you've chosen Unity 2D it should work :)
[11:17] <Surio> Whao! Whoa! etc...
[11:17] <Surio> :-) Well whaddya know. It's that simple?
[11:17] <Surio> Thanks. I can see the icons and the top menu now
[11:18] <Surio> But, but, I now have another question
[11:18] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, Ubuntu 12.10 will be out soon; that will fix that issue by using the processor to make 3D if the graphics drivers do not support 3D
[11:18] <Surio> @WarofTheNerd, thanks once again
[11:18] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, what is the question? :)
[11:19] <WarOfTheNerd> (and, you're welcome ^_^)
[11:19] <Surio> You said >> because until VMWare Tools is installed
[11:19] <Surio> But, I did install it.
[11:19] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, maybe the VMWare Tools drivers are broken at the moment.  They seem to be broken on Windows 8
[11:19] <Surio> During the install, I allowed the VMWare player
[11:20] <Surio> to download the Tools for Linux 9.2.0
[11:20] <Surio> Oh, so that's what you reckon?
[11:20] <WarOfTheNerd> Click on Virtual Machine at the top
[11:20] <WarOfTheNerd> does it have 'Install VMWare Tools' as an option?
[11:21] <WarOfTheNerd> or does it say 'Reinstall VMWare Tools' ?
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> Surio  I havent followed, why don't you try virtualbo
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> virtualbox
[11:21] <WarOfTheNerd> MonkeyDust, because VMWare is better for all intents and purposes?
[11:21] <Surio> Funny you mentioned that, because, it did say "reinstall VMWare tools",
[11:22] <Surio> and I looked at it before logging in here, and followed instructions
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> "better"? ok, not starting discussion
[11:22] <mevvis> I play games on vbox-xp, FX4100
[11:22] <Priyans> Hello, wanted to know why cant I have TinyOS and Arduino Linux IDE installed together on Ubuntu ?
[11:22] <Surio> from "http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/11287/how-to-run-ubuntu-in-windows-7-with-vmware-player/"
[11:22] <WarOfTheNerd> MonkeyDust, VirtualBox makes the kernel unsupportable by tainting it
[11:22] <WarOfTheNerd> MonkeyDust, VMWare does not, upstream kernel developers will still support you
[11:23] <Surio> @MonkeyDust, one other reason is that I am used to VMWare, and having used it for running Knoppix LiveCD, it was my default/fallback
[11:24] <WarOfTheNerd> MonkeyDust, advocating use of software that is so bad Linux kernel developers will not support it and Microsoft will ignore bug reports for when it's installed..... tells you a lot
[11:25] <WarOfTheNerd> MonkeyDust, check this out:  https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/10742
[11:26] <Surio_> Sorry guys, we had a poweroutage here. I may have missed some of the earlier chat @Warofthenerd, did you reply to me?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> WarOfTheNerd  the end goal of life: to be ignored by Microsoft
[11:26] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, 1 sec lemme check
[11:26] <killer_> how can i make pcmanfm my default file manager as nauttilus is acting too slow
[11:27] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio_, that is one old tutorial >_>
[11:27] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio_, if you want Unity to work; try 'sudo apt-get install gnome-panel'
[11:28] <WarOfTheNerd> by Unity I mean VMWare Unity
[11:28] <WarOfTheNerd> (damned choice of names.... )
[11:29] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio_, because VMWare Unity, the thing that lets you have a small menu inside Windows for running just the apps uses GNOME if I remember rightly =]
[11:29] <skraito> hi guys this my music and album http://0x71.org/Music for your ubuntu
[11:29] <skraito> is free
[11:29] <jrib> skraito: this channel is only for ubuntu support, please don't do that again
[11:30] <akis> how can i disable in gnome the option to not open a programm when i insert a usb device (flash disk) or cd/dvd in my pc?
[11:32] <akis> i mean how can i disable usb/cd/dvd auto play?
[11:34] <Surio> Sorry folks.... power outage again... hopefully that's the end
[11:34] <Surio> @Monkeydust, like I said, it was a default option for me, unlike @Warofthenerd, I am not so keenly aware of the nitty-gritty.
[11:34] <Aristide> Hi !
[11:34] <Surio> @Warofthenerd, did you give me any replies since our last discussion?
[11:35] <Surio> Hi Aristide
[11:35] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, none since last outage
[11:35] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio_, VMWare Unity, the thing that lets you have a small menu inside Windows for running just the apps uses GNOME if I remember rightly =]
[11:35] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio_, if you want VMWare Unity to work; try 'sudo apt-get install gnome-panel'
[11:36] <WarOfTheNerd> err and pick GNOME from the list on log in screen
[11:36] <vartotojas_> hey again. any advice how to install new java on my ubuntu?
[11:36] <Surio> OK, so, although VMWare was my fallback due to familiarity, you gave me some pointers on its advantages over virtualbox. Thanks for that
[11:38] <jrib> !java | vartotojas_
[11:38] <akis> i found it. dconf-editor -> org -> gnome -> desktop -> media-handling -> uncheck automount_open
[11:38] <Surio> Again, what was the tip for GNOME for? to have a better UI experience? Because, I seem to have no issues navigating my way around UNITY at present
[11:39] <alessio> !list
[11:40] <Priyans> Hello, wanted to know why am I facing problems to have TinyOS and Arduino Linux IDE installed together on Ubuntu ?
[11:41] <Surio> @Warofthenerd, we were discussing if the Menu reads "Install" or "Reinstall" VMWare tools for Linux
[11:41] <Surio> And for me it says "Reinstall".
[11:41] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, if it says Reinstall, it's all good :)
[11:41] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, it just means that VMWare Tools has broken 3D graphics at the moment
[11:42] <Surio> Also, following the http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/11287/how-to-run-ubuntu-in-windows-7-with-vmware-player/ I reinstalled again
[11:42] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, which to be honest, I've found VMWare Player 5 is broken
[11:42] <Surio> >> it just means that VMWare Tools has broken 3D graphics I got it now!
[11:42] <Surio> I got it now, thanks!
[11:43] <Surio> Aww, sugar. I was on VMWare 4 till today. I updated to ver.5 just this afternoon
[11:43] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, 4 was awesome, but I've had weirdness with 5
[11:43] <spud__> Hello.... I had a /opt partition (on the same this where all the other partitions are) but when I try to mount it, it say it does not exist...
[11:43] <WarOfTheNerd> like paths that do exist being claimed to not exist
[11:43] <WarOfTheNerd> which broke shared folders for me :(
[11:44] <spud__> SMART status says the disk is healthy
[11:44] <Surio> @WOTN, Under the circumstances, Do you think it would be better to revert to release 4 agian?
[11:44] <Surio> again -typo-
[11:44] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, yeah, and try reinstalling Ubuntu from scratch with it
[11:44] <Surio> >> Surio, 4 was awesome
[11:44] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, see if it works any better
[11:44] <Surio> Yea, I agree! :-)
[11:45] <Surio> Nooooooooooo... there goes the rest of the evening! ;-)
[11:45] <Surio> @WOTN, OK, I will probably try it again, tonight
[11:46] <Surio> And just to reconfirm, removing the Virtual machine on 5 is just as simple as in 4, right? Right-click and select "remove VM from disk"?
[11:46] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, yeah the interface is the same
[11:50] <Surio> @WOTN, re: the Unity thingy, do you think that is still needed even if I switch to VMplayer 4?
[11:52] <cagfaiss> nick cag
[11:57] <Surio> @WOTN, re: the Unity thingy, do you think that is still needed even if I switch to VMplayer 4?
[11:59] <nokia> hi. Can someone confirm if chmod744 is correct for  creating folders/files = root read,write,execute and everyone else read only
[12:00] <jrib> nokia: no.  You want 755
[12:01] <jrib> nokia: 755 for directories and 644 for non-executable files
[12:02] <jrib> !permissions > nokia
[12:04] <Surio> BRB
[12:05] <blackshirt> brb?
[12:05] <auronandace> blackshirt: it means be right back
[12:05] <blackshirt> oh.. I don't know
[12:06] <auronandace> now you do
[12:06] <blackshirt> thank you auronandace
[12:06] <akis> could any advise me how can i make start an application from terminal clicking its button? under gnome.
[12:07] <Benxyzzy> What options do I need to mount a volume on the command line so any user can access it? Right now the mountpoint and all contents of the mount are appearing with owner/group of me, and 700 permissions. I want something like 777
[12:08] <nokia> jrib I was setting permissions just for samba and forgot about the linux file system permissions
[12:08] <Benxyzzy> akis: You mean you want a button in gnome that fires a terminal command?
[12:08] <jrib> Benxyzzy: what filesystem?
[12:10] <Benxyzzy> jrib: vfat - but it's complicated by the fact it's a Truecrypt volume. Truecrypt decrypts the volume and then uses mount to actually mount it. I can pass options to mount through truecrypt on the command line though
[12:10] <EweR> how to get back to terminal when i launched a process, and know whatever i write doesnt pharse and when I push arrow keys it adds "^[[A" to the line of text
[12:10] <EweR> now*
[12:10] <jrib> Benxyzzy: well if you really want everyone to be able to read and write everything then just give 777 I guess
[12:10] <casper_> hi, how can I add a particular command to sudoers list. eg, no one without root privileges can do "who", it should be "sudo who"?
[12:11] <jrib> EweR: you want to terminate the process?
[12:11] <Benxyzzy> jrib: Give 777 to which mount option?
[12:11] <jrib> !vfat > Benxyzzy
[12:11] <bekks> casper_: Wrong. :)
[12:11] <jrib> Benxyzzy: there are several *mask options you can use (think of masks as "subtracting" permissions)
[12:12] <EweR> jrib: no, i want to be able to write commands to terminal and execute them
[12:12] <bekks> casper_: sudo does not inhibit to run a specific application as user. sudo runs that application with root privileges. Which is a big difference.
[12:12] <jrib> EweR: open a terminal, then you can write commands and execute them
[12:13] <EweR> jrib: but when i executed this one command i cant do anything anymore, whatever i write and press enter it just adds the line of text but doesnt do anything else
[12:13] <EweR> its happening all in terminal
[12:13] <jrib> EweR: press ctrl-c
[12:13] <EweR> jrib: thanks
[12:15] <casper__> Wrong? Sorry, I had a connection problem. Could you please answer again, or is there any log?
[12:16] <MARCELLUS>   UBUNTU
[12:16] <jrib> MARCELLUS: PANCAKES
[12:16] <MARCELLUS>    
[12:16] <MARCELLUS> ALL MY UBUNTU TASKBARS ARE GONE
[12:17] <jrib> MARCELLUS: ok, we can stop with the caps now, please
[12:17] <MARCELLUS> AND IM USING MY SHIT PHONE TO GO ON IRC, CAPS WONT TURN LFF, MY APOLIGIES
[12:18] <MARCELLUS> fixed it, sorry about that.
[12:18] <MARCELLUS> i logged into ubuntu and the vars on the left anthe top are gone
[12:19] <dr_willis> use the console. check permissions on .Xauthority  MARCELLUS
[12:20] <MARCELLUS> hocant log  intoo console,, says my login is incorrect, im using my default name and pass
[12:20] <dr_willis> also you may want to add a new user for testing. see if they have the same issue
[12:22] <akis> Benxyzzy: i mean i want to run an application through terminal but just clicking on the application's icon, like it is possible in xubuntu with a right click on the application's icon and choosing 'run form a terminal'
[12:23] <MARCELLUS> i webt into guest session, it hss same problem
[12:23] <MARCELLUS> how to fix?
[12:24] <dr_willis> try reinstalling the proper video drivers from the recovery mode. perhaps MARCELLUS
[12:27] <mechteam> hey all
[12:27] <Benxyzzy> akis: Hm, I would create a new launcher (shortcut) and add the command there: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/GNOME.html#LAUNCHER
[12:27] <dr_willis> howdy
[12:29] <akis> my right click on desktop doesn't give me the option to create a launcer
[12:29] <foobArrrr> my usb dvb-s2 device (TechniSat Digital GmbH DVB-PC TV Star HD) stopped working and I don't know why. worked fine last week. /dev/dvb/adapter0/ exists, /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 doesn't. I pastebined the relevant parts of lsusb, dmesg, lsmod and the error messages of scan-s2 and vlc: http://sprunge.us/faII
[12:29] <killer_> how do i add compiz as default compositing manager in lubuntu
[12:30] <superceman> hi all
[12:30] <dr_willis> killer_: you are using lxde?
[12:30] <superceman> hi all
[12:30] <coder__> hello
[12:30] <coder__> anyone here
[12:31] <killer_> dr_willis :  yea ..i installed lxde in my ubuntu 12.04
[12:31] <superceman> i am using uity in ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[12:31] <dr_willis> several hundred here
[12:31] <coder__> i'm trouble with linuxmint
[12:31] <coder__> someone help me
[12:31] <b43156> Hi
[12:31] <akis> is there any option to give the command somewhere else?
[12:31] <superceman> hi
[12:31] <auronandace> !mint | coder__
[12:31] <Kircle> I want to install the KDE desktop but I don't want all the applications that come with it. Can I just get the desktop with the bare minimum of bundled applications?
[12:32] <compdoc> coder__, whats the problem? Thats usually the best place to start
[12:32] <dr_willis> killer_:  you use compiz az the window manager. not sure why you would use lxde if you want the eyecandy of compiz
[12:32] <b43156> I have some preformance problems with my samba. When I am transfering from/to it I get 700kb/S .. I am in a Gbit local network. Any idea? Some configurations? Have asked google but it did not know :/
[12:33] <dr_willis> b43156:  the smb.conf file had some tweaks mentioned in its comments i recall
[12:34] <compdoc> b43156, it should be a lot faster, but are you sharing a USB drive or soemthing?
[12:35] <b43156> compdoc, I have a debian machine which is the samba server.. then I am connected to it from a windows machine and a ubuntu laptop. I get same speed from both of them.
[12:35] <b43156> compdoc, if I use somekind of FTP program I get very good speeds!
[12:36] <dr_willis> i tend to use ssh and sshfs these days
[12:36] <compdoc> b43156, is the hard drive slow? Is there a wifi conenction involved?
[12:39] <b43156> compdoc, When I'm using my laptop wifi... transfering files trough FTP I get 100MbiT .. but trough samba I get 7Mbit.. So there is something wierd with samba.. I will maybe get alittle better speeds using a cable but it's not much better.
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:42] <coder_> hellp
[12:42] <coder_> hello
[12:42] <coder_> help me, please
[12:43] <coder_> i can't boot linuxmint
[12:43] <dr_willis_> we dont do mint support here
[12:43] <coder_> here your can see the error http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umXGStxNskY
[12:43] <coder_> please take a look
[12:43] <install> clear
[12:43] <coder_> oh
[12:43] <coder_> ops
[12:43] <dr_willis_> mint has its own channels
[12:43] <coder_> ok
[12:44] <install> anyone can help with grub install on software raid 0? I can get the correct place to put it
[12:45] <kisha> rc.p2p-net.eu #TC.Support
[12:45] <AMorone> Wish I could for you  As it is, I need help, too, though with something else.
[12:45] <install> clear
[12:47] <akaWolf> 32 bit or 64 more stable?
[12:47] <compdoc> the same
[12:47] <compdoc> 64bit is faster
[12:47] <akaWolf> but why is not recommended
[12:47] <akaWolf> 64
[12:47] <akaWolf> and recommended 32
[12:48] <compdoc> not sure why they do that. maybe because ppl running linux have older computers
[12:48] <akaWolf> ok
[12:48] <Marcellus> Hello, when I log into Ubuntu, there are no longer 'task bars' on the left and top of the screen. How can I restore them?
[12:48] <dr_willis_> a form of idiot proofing
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> Marcellus  Unity?
[12:48] <solusipse> thats because there is still much software that wasnt ported to 32bit i think
[12:49] <solusipse> 64 i mean
[12:49] <dr_willis_> ive seen very few reasons to  not use 64 bit these days
[12:50] <tom_Jiang> this is my first time come here
[12:50] <Marcellus> I think it's Unity... I just downloaded the Windows Installer and ran it
[12:50] <Marcellus> It's been working fine until I last logged out
[12:50] <install> can anyone help with bootloader installation on 12.04, on top of RAID 0? I can't understand which volume should I select
[12:51] <Marcellus> Any ideas as to how I get the bars back?
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> Marcellus  wubi?
[12:53] <AMorone> Having an issue with getting Jack The Ripper password cracker to work through Cygwin in Windows 7. My tech instructor wanted us to install it and see how it works and then write a paper on it. How do I get it to work through Cygwin when I get the error message to every bash command I enter in Cygwin command prompt? Any ideas?  By the way, that error message is that the command isn't...
[12:53] <AMorone> ...recognised.  Am I supposed to use 'Singular' Terminal for Windows? I am aware that the programme is normally only used in Unix, but it can be in Windows, as well, from what I'd read. But, I just am not aware of a workaround to do this to circumvent this problem.  Please let me know what can be done.  Thanks.
[12:53] <Marcellus> Yes I used that
[12:53] <akaWolf> solusipse: but under 64 all 32 bit soft are working...\
[12:53] <Marcellus> It was been working fine all morning
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> Marcellus  and it stopped now... better install ubuntu on its ow partition, not inside windows
[12:54] <OpenbsdVbox> Marcellus: wubi is meant as more of a preview than a solution
[12:54] <Marcellus> oh?
[12:54] <twitchie> !ot | AMorone
[12:54] <solusipse> akaWolf nope, if something was compilled for 32bit it wont work without 32bit libraries
[12:54] <Marcellus> how so? it seems to be working fine
[12:54] <solusipse> but its easy to get them though
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> Marcellus  wubi is a pseudo-instaalion inside windows, not alongside it
[12:55] <yank> why do we use sudo when we can do same work from root shell ?
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> installation*
[12:55] <akaWolf> solusipse: what prevents deliver 32-bit libraries?
[12:55] <OpenbsdVbox> !sudo | yank
[12:55] <Marcellus> I'm pretty sure its outside of it... When I boot my computer I can use Ubuntu or Windows 7...
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> yank  sudo is safer
[12:55] <genoobie> hey all
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> Marcellus  wubi is inside windows
[12:56] <bazhang> yank, for a root shell, sudo -i , if you must
[12:56] <OpenbsdVbox> Marcellus: no, wubi is inside windows, it lives on the ntfs partition as a file
[12:56] <dr_willis_> wuni can be fragile
[12:56] <genoobie> I was running lubuntu and one day I ended up with a "busybox" interface and no boot
[12:56] <Marcellus> Regardless, my task bars are missing and I cannot do anything
[12:56] <genoobie> so I put a livecd in and tried to mount the filesystem
[12:57] <dr_willis_> can you login at the console Marcellus
[12:57] <AMorone> ubottu: k, hon.  Ty.  I will.  :)
[12:57] <solusipse> akaWolf well i use them with no problems but some ppl say that using them should be avoided, dont really know why
[12:57] <Marcellus> No. I opened it with ctrl + alt + f1, but it asks for a login, and my usual details don't work on it
[12:57] <yank> but i see that its always recommended to use sudo rather than dropping to root shell. Any special reason for that?
[12:57] <yank> bazhang:
[12:57] <genoobie> I got an error of "error mounting, mount wronf fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> yank  sudo is safer
[12:58] <bazhang> yank, yes?
[12:58] <OpenbsdVbox> yank: root shell is hardly ever needed
[12:58] <akaWolf> solusipse: mm..
[12:58] <genoobie> in some cases useful info is found in syslog
[12:58] <yank> bazhang: but i see that its always recommended to use sudo rather than dropping to root shell. Any special reason for that?
[12:58] <genoobie> try dmesg | tail or so
[12:58] <bazhang> yank, sudo -i for a root shell, the root password is not enabled by default
[12:58] <OpenbsdVbox> yank: if you ran everything as root then your system can be compromised far easier than if you were a normal user
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> yank  told you twice why
[12:58] <genoobie> any ideas?
[12:58] <dr_willis_> security is king.
[12:59] <yank> OpenbsdVbox: yes that what i wanted to hear...but how so?
[12:59] <genoobie> so I looked at dmesg | tail
[12:59] <Surio> @Marcellus, I had a related problem like yours', and switching to Unity2D solved my problem. Why don't you try that?
[12:59] <dr_willis_> glebihan:  whats the exact  line you are using
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> yank  to work permanently as root would turn your pc into a windows machine, nobody want that
[12:59] <OpenbsdVbox> yank: root has access to everything, you don't always need access to everything
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> wants*
[13:00] <genoobie> end_request io error dev sda sector 120122415
[13:00] <genoobie> and failed to read block errors followed by recovery failed
[13:00] <yank> OpenbsdVbox: ohk
[13:00] <genoobie> ext4-fs
[13:00] <dr_willis_> io errors  are not good.
[13:00] <genoobie> this sucks
[13:00] <yank> monekydust: ok thanks
[13:00] <genoobie> dr_willis_, data is toast?
[13:01] <dr_willis_> depends. genoobie
[13:01] <genoobie> well I can't simply mount the fs from the livecd so that sucks
[13:01] <genoobie> dr_willis_, any tips?
[13:01] <dr_willis_> fsck  the fs may fix it.
[13:01] <genoobie> dr_willis_, not so skilled with fsck
[13:02] <dr_willis_> or try ddrescue. but that may take days.
[13:02] <dr_willis_> !fsck
[13:02] <dr_willis_> fsck /dev/sda2   for example
[13:03] <genoobie> oh that's easy
[13:03] <dr_willis_> man fsck       ;-)
[13:03] <genoobie> ugh the man pages...
[13:04] <dr_willis_> be sure to use the right dev/sd##
[13:04] <genoobie> yep it's sda2
[13:04] <genoobie> so when it returns ignore error, do I say, "yes"?
[13:05] <dr_willis_> normally. yes
[13:05] <genoobie> force rewrite?
[13:05] <Surio> OK, thanks irc, I got what I wanted, and thanks to @WarOfTheNerd also. :-)
[13:06] <dr_willis_> never seen that message.
[13:06] <genoobie> hm...
[13:06] <dr_willis_> if you feel lucky.. yes. =-O
[13:07] <genoobie> dr_willis_, do I keep doing that or is once enough with the command
[13:07] <dr_willis_> once it passes a fsck. try mounting it again
[13:08] <genoobie> okay it mounts...
[13:08] <genoobie> very cool
[13:08] <genoobie> I'll poke around and see what's up
[13:08] <dr_willis_> id be making backups also
[13:08] <genoobie> dr_willis_, thanks
[13:08] <genoobie> yep
[13:08] <OpenbsdVbox> genoobie: backup your data now that you have the chance
[13:08] <genoobie> just need it for one more day
[13:08] <genoobie> and then I'm going to dump the hdd
[13:08] <genoobie> buy a new one
[13:08] <dr_willis_> backup the backups
[13:09] <genoobie> I have a raid 1 NAS box
[13:11]  * skraito said why the fucker dev null keep on flooding freenode
[13:11] <OpenbsdVbox> !language | skraito
[13:12] <skraito> shut up
[13:13] <ciao> ciao
[13:13] <ciao> list!
[13:13] <Bren_> !list
[13:14] <shomon> hi, how do I change keyboard to italian?
[13:14] <shomon> it's spanish atm
[13:14] <shomon> is it easier via terminal or can I get an icon to do it for me each time?
[13:14] <Bren_> shomon, in a window manager (which?) or console?
[13:15] <shomon> I was asking both.. is it easier in gnome or terminal?
[13:15] <webfox> I need to reduce the console font of Ubuntu Server. If I change the console-setup it changes it but when I restart the machine those changes are lost. How do I keep those changes alive ?
[13:15] <OpenbsdVbox> !keyboard | shomon
[13:15] <crizis> shomon, system preferences > keyboard layout
[13:16] <Bren_> crizis, edit /etc/default/console-setup
[13:17] <Bren_> sorry, wrong address :)
[13:17] <Bren_> webfox, /etc/default/console-setup
[13:17] <papna> I'm running Natty and my audio is all crackly and stuttery (and sometimes gets stuck in a loop). It seems to start when I use Flash. How can I get it to work?
[13:18] <webfox> Bren_, yes, when I change it it get lost after a restart. How do I persist those changes from restart to restart ?
[13:18] <OpenbsdVbox> papna: any reason you are still on natty, its eol next month, consider upgrading
[13:18] <shomon> thanks OpenbsdVbox and crizis !
[13:19] <Alligadi_> hi
[13:19] <Bren_> webfox, is only the effect not working after reboot or is that file back to its old content?
[13:20] <papna> OpenbsdVbox: Because this install is slightly old, it's otherwise working. Dist-upgrade has a habit of making things stop working. (Also, I'm in no hurry for a WM change.)
[13:20] <theadmin> Does anyone know of a way to sync stuff on two devices, but only in case both devices are mounted?
[13:20] <mafiaboy> how do i open sound preferences using terminal (need it)
[13:20] <webfox> Bren_, I think the effect does not sustain. But perhaps the file turn back as well.
[13:20] <OpenbsdVbox> papna: flash is one nasty beast, not sure how to help you there
[13:21] <Nede> my new vps have a problem: Add my user "milanese" in group sudo and adm. But the command "sudo su" :sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[13:21] <Alligadi_> flash needs to die :D
[13:21] <tf81_netbook> agreed
[13:21] <L3top> theadmin: I could write something.
[13:21] <Bren_> webfox, then please try to configure it in the file, reboot and check if your changes in the file persisted.
[13:22] <webfox> Bren_, I will do that now.
[13:22] <theadmin> L3top: Well, if you're thinking a bash/perl/python script I could do something along the lines too, just wondering if there's a ready solution somewhere
[13:22] <papna> OpenbsdVbox: Search results suggest it's pretty terrible in Oneric and Precise, just like it has been terrible since Warty.
[13:22] <theadmin> L3top: All I really want is sync my music collection to my android phone, but I always look for generic solutions, lol
[13:22] <OpenbsdVbox> papna: well, flash is flash
[13:23]  * L3top always prefers a custom solution he sets and forgets... *shrugs*
[13:23] <OpenbsdVbox> papna: you can try the version in the repos or the very latest from adobe or just abandon it altogether (or even try gnash or lightspark)
[13:23] <dr_willis_> i use flash downloader extensions. or flash replacer extensions to play flash in vlc.
[13:24] <papna> The bigger problem is that the audio situation is a mess. One rogue application can screw up the audio for the system as a whole.
[13:24] <theadmin> L3top: Well, thanks anyway, I'll think of something
[13:24] <Alligadi_> @papna: with pulseaudio and such crap thats true :D
[13:24] <Alligadi_> but with ALSA alone, sound works perfect
[13:24] <papna> Except when it doesn't.
[13:25] <Alligadi_> sure that pulseaudio isn the reason?
[13:25] <dr_willis_> sound just gets locked with alsa..
[13:25] <papna> Not at all. I'm just sure that ALSA alone doesn't work perfect. :)
[13:25] <theadmin> papna: Why are you so sure? I have a pure ALSA setup without Pulse, it works. With Pulse, it doesn't (garbled sound :/)
[13:25] <foobArrrr> my usb dvb-s2 device (TechniSat Digital GmbH DVB-PC TV Star HD) stopped working and I don't know why. worked fine last week. /dev/dvb/adapter0/ exists, /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 doesn't. I pastebined the relevant parts of lsusb, dmesg, lsmod and the error messages of scan-s2 and vlc: http://sprunge.us/faII
[13:25] <Alligadi_> the last two years I had sound problems on about 5 computers running Ubuntu with pulseaudio. And just one with ALSA alone so far (lightweight distributions)
[13:26] <Alligadi_> pulseaudio is a big step back like nearly all the bloated software ubuntu consists of today
[13:26] <webfox> Bren_, it seems the console-setup file is correct like after I have changed it. The thing it console-setup are not read again after a restart suppose.
[13:26] <OpenbsdVbox> papna: i've used stock ubuntu and my sound has never had a problem
[13:26] <papna> theadmin: Because I've ran straight ALSA on many machines and had a single application hose it until the ALSA daemon is restarted many times. :)
[13:27] <papna> theadmin: Because many old applications won't work with ALSA at all.
[13:27] <theadmin> papna: Doesn't seem to happen here, though yes, familiar with the problem
[13:27] <Saevo> hi rsync wont accept my id_dsa.pub key
[13:27] <Bren_> webfox, ok then i'm out of wits here. as a work-around, you could try and add your console-setup command to /etc/rc.local
[13:27] <Alligadi_> but with alsa-oss :)
[13:27] <Saevo> normal login as root works
[13:27] <Alligadi_> (oss emulation)
[13:28] <webfox> Bren_, what line I would put on rc.local ?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> papna, alsa works fine for pc based audio and video , even flv files , but unfortunately pulse is required for most soundcards to extract the flash audio on websites
[13:29] <Alligadi_> wrong
[13:30] <myk_robinson> i notice with every release of Ubuntu, it seems the longer I keep it, the slower start up gets. If I create  new user account and log into it, it seems to go to the desktop MUCH faster. How can I troubleshoot slower boot times?
[13:30] <Bren_> webfox, try the commands you used to set it manually. /etc/rc.local is just a shell script. but be sure to add your commands before the "exit 0" which should be at the last line.
[13:30] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: check what you have installed
[13:31] <webfox> Bren_, doing it now.
[13:32] <OpenbsdVbox> !bootchart | myk_robinson
[13:32] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: can you be more specific? Yes, I have some things installed, but nothing I would say is unusual. How can I check for apps that run on startup? It seems that even the login ...
[13:32] <Alligadi_> @myk_robinsons: if you want no software aging, you will need a other distribution i guess :D
[13:32] <myk_robinson> you beat me...
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Alligadi_, well, wrong for you maybe , but that's my experience ..I'd be glad to hear how to use alsa exclusively without pulse and still hear audio on websites
[13:33] <bazhang> !behelpful | Alligadi_
[13:34] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: installing Bootchart now, hopefully that will shed some light on what is stalling the boot time.
[13:34] <pranjal710> hi, how can I add a particular command to sudoers list. eg, I want that no one without root privileges can do "who" .
[13:34] <Alligadi_> @BluesKaj: I switched to TinyCore when Ubuntu was too less transparent for me 2 years ago. I never had problems with sound in TC, not on websites, not in flash not in applications. Maybe it helps when i write what i have installed for audio:
[13:35] <webfox> Bren_, seems did not works.
[13:35] <bazhang> Alligadi_, this is NOT the chat channel
[13:35] <bazhang> Alligadi_, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat, NOT here
[13:35] <dr_willis_> pranjal710: i dont think it works that way
[13:35] <Bren_> Bren_, ok, then you'd have to hope for somebody else here
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Alligadi_, well we're talking about ubuntu here , not tinycore
[13:36] <Saevo> help
[13:36] <pranjal710> dr_willis_:  Cant we add certain commands to sudo commands, so that no other person can use it?
[13:36] <Saevo> rsync with pubkey doesnt work
[13:37] <htamayo> hi, I have problems trying to bringing up my ati radeon x1200 series in ubuntu precise, i don't get any video i got an error that "no screens found" and that the device  is not supported, also i don0t have any xorg.conf file
[13:37] <dr_willis_> pranjal710:  ive never seen it done that way. thats the opposite of what sudo does
[13:38] <htamayo> so, checking in the web i didn't any helpfull, so any suggestions are welcome
[13:38] <theadmin> pranjal710: Take off the execute bit for "other" on the file: sudo chmod o-x $(which who)
[13:38] <dr_willis_> pranjal710: check the sudo homepage perhaps.
[13:38] <leblebi> hello! I am customizing an ISO with Ubuntu Customization Kit. I am on the step which I install from terminal the applications as root with apt-get install command. But I always get this error: Unable to locate package I have on the source list these lines: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted
[13:38] <leblebi> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security main restricted
[13:38] <leblebi> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted
[13:38] <leblebi> Can somebody please help me? Thank you!
[13:38] <FloodBot1> leblebi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:39] <dr_willis_> theadmin: aha. forgot about those.
[13:41] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: what has /var/log/bootchart revealed?
[13:41] <theadmin> dr_willis_: Ridiculous solution though -- apt-get would fix them back to normal on an update
[13:41] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: not sure, looking at it now. Just uploaded it to share   http://www.imagebanana.com/view/1y5sub29/mykIdeapadZ570precise201209231.png
[13:42] <eduard> hey I am having trouble with updating anything on my jaunty
[13:42] <nsudo> someone can please check my vnc and ports forwarding
[13:42] <theadmin> eduard: Jaunty is EOL -- the repos are taken down, you can't install/update anything there
[13:42] <pranjal710> theadmin , dr_willis_  : I think I wasnt clear with my question. Example: Anybody can do "ls" to view the directory contents. I want that only people with root privileges can do "ls" . Is there a way?
[13:42] <webfox> Bren_, thank you!
[13:42] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | eduard
[13:42] <theadmin> pranjal710: Just told you how. But... That would be just stupid for such a core tool as ls
[13:43] <nsudo> also i need help in installing my sound on 12.04
[13:43] <webfox> Could someone help me figure how to keep console-setup setting over a restart procedure please?
[13:43] <Saevo> rsync with pubkey isnt working
[13:43] <eduard> so I cant even upgrade my version?
[13:43] <pranjal710> theadmin:  yes, I was just giving an example. sorry
[13:43] <theadmin> eduard: See the link bazhang gave to you
[13:44] <theadmin> pranjal710: Anyway, just take off the execute bit: sudo chmod o-x $(which ls)
[13:44] <Saevo> whats with do-release-upgrade?
[13:44] <eduard> alright ill try that one again thx bazhang and theadmin
[13:44] <theadmin> pranjal710: Then only root will be able to execute it
[13:44] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: so I'm looking at the chart, and am not sure I really understand what I'm looking at :) Any of this stick out as the culprit to you?
[13:44] <pranjal710> theadmin: Thankyou
[13:45] <leblebi> hello! I am customizing an ISO with Ubuntu Customization Kit. I am on the step which I install from terminal the applications as root with apt-get install command. But I always get this error: Unable to locate package I have on the source list these lines: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted
[13:45] <leblebi> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security main restricted
[13:45] <leblebi> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted
[13:45] <leblebi> Can somebody please help me? Thank you!
[13:45] <FloodBot1> leblebi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:45] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: hmm, nothing much sticks out to me
[13:45] <Sven_vB> leblebi, did apt-get update run already?
[13:46] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: maybe its just perception...
[13:46] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: seems that fsck is being run
[13:46] <l057c0d3r> ahh
[13:46] <myk_robinson> Seems like startup is much slower compared to a month or two ago
[13:46]  * l057c0d3r bashes his head off the wall
[13:46] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: for whatever its worth, the only additional startup application I have listed is Synapse
[13:47] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: some of the modprobes seem to take a while though
[13:47] <Saevo> help
[13:47] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: what does synapse do?
[13:47] <Saevo> Ive a problem with rsync
[13:47] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: Synapse is a launcher, it doesn't start until the user session, though.
[13:48] <l057c0d3r> i dont understand it where did i go wrong.. i've tried 5 times now to make a ubuntu live usb with persistent and still not working right....  tried using the ubuntu live cd..  universal-usb-creator and Unetbootin
[13:48] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: I notice modem-manager and a bluetooth module. I have neither. How di I prevent them from starting?
[13:49] <myk_robinson> !synapse
[13:49] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: not sure sorry
[13:49] <l057c0d3r> i can get it to boot into the live session.. but if i add persistent to the boot option.. it boots the first time.. but laggy as hell..  and the cow directory shows up.. but sais unable to access drive...  and then if i try to boot a second time with persistent it hangs during load.. locks up.. nothing....  but if i delete casper-rw and remake its the same over again
[13:49] <leblebi> Sven_vB no I had not. But I did it when you told me, now. But the same problem still.
[13:49] <KRomeleoN> anyone know if gthumb is in active development?
[13:49] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: synapse doesn't seem to be the culprit there though
[13:49] <KRomeleoN> shotwell has been crashing a lot on me
[13:49] <KRomeleoN> and gthumb is better i find
[13:50] <myk_robinson> does the boot time look normal to you? Like I said, maybe its just perception and impatience
[13:50] <KRomeleoN> but idk if its active
[13:50] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: 60secs seems reasonable to me
[13:51] <nsudo> can someone help me installing my intel hda via remote help will be appriciated a lot as i am trying a lot but no sucess
[13:52] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: i think really the part that is troubling me is after I log into my user account, the amount of time it takes to actually get from login to desktop. I suppose its no big deal, because the laptop works plenty fast enough. Just noticing things, I guess
[13:52] <myk_robinson> thanks for your attention and assistance, however
[13:52] <BluesKaj> nsudo, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[13:52] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: no worries
[13:53] <bootch> hi guys
[13:53] <webfox> How do reset a window size to 100% after a Resize operaton on VirtualBox ?
[13:53] <Saevo> OpenbsdVbox: i worry and nobody wants to tell me how to rsync with pbkey
[13:53] <nsudo> BluesKaj no soundcard found
[13:53] <bootch> I got some problem compiling kernel, my ubuntu wont start. Could you give me a hand?
[13:53] <papna> Hrm. Well, my audio problems don't actually seem to have anything to do with Flash, but that is of small comfort.
[13:54] <Muelli> bootch: what's your exact problem?
[13:54] <Saevo> help, rsync wont work
[13:54] <bootch> here's error message I got on boot http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222394/
[13:54] <l057c0d3r> just wondering if anyone has actually got persistent to work with usb on 12.04
[13:54] <Saevo> !rsync
[13:54] <BluesKaj> nsudo, you're ssh'd into a remote pc ?
[13:54] <julius> hi
[13:54] <julius> can i just do a  do-release-upgrade from 11.10 to current?
[13:54] <bootch> Muelli, hi
[13:55] <Muelli> bootch: hm. What's your kernel cmd line? Looks like you're trying to wrongly mount a root fs
[13:55] <nsudo> no
[13:55] <bootch> Muelli, I didn't edit it, I installed kernel from .deb give me a sec I will check the line
[13:57] <bootch> Muelli, where should I look, I'm confused with grub2
[13:58] <Muelli> bootch: I have no idea tbh. I still don't use grub2 -.-
[13:58] <oldskool_> Hey I am trying to setup a virtual bridge for my ubuntu server but keep running into problems...
[13:58] <BluesKaj> nsudo, in the remote server terminal , sudo aplay -l
[13:58] <nsudo> sudo aplay -l
[13:58] <nsudo> ok
[13:58] <oldskool_> when I edit the /etc/network/interfaces file and add the br0 interface it makes my eth0 ip the one I assign to it
[13:59] <nsudo> aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...
[13:59] <MikeWorth> I'm after a piece of 2D CAD software that is capable of drawing nets to cut out and form into tubes. I need to be able to have oblique ends to the tubes, so need to be able to draw lines with trigonometric curves. I've tried libreCAD but don't seem to be able to do trigonometric curves, is there something that can do this?
[13:59] <Sindir> Hi, I checked my servers /var/log/syslog and saw that UFW kept blocking a connection from my mac. Any ideas on why my mac want to try connect to my ubuntu server?
[13:59] <Saevo> help damm
[13:59] <Saevo> !swear
[13:59] <papna> Or with pulse :/
[14:00] <leblebi> Hi! I am customizing an ISO with Ubuntu Customization Kit. I am on the step which I install from terminal the applications as root with apt-get install command. But I always get this error: Unable to locate package I have on the source list these lines: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted
[14:00] <leblebi> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security main restricted
[14:00] <leblebi> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted
[14:00] <leblebi> Can somebody please help me? Thank you!
[14:00] <nsudo> lspci says 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[14:00] <FloodBot1> leblebi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:00] <jrib> leblebi: run sudo apt-get update
[14:00] <leblebi> jrib I already try it. :(
[14:01] <oldskool_> ** Does anyone have experince setting up a bridge to utilize with virt-manager
[14:01] <oldskool_> ?
[14:01] <jrib> leblebi: pastebin full input and output of install command
[14:01] <Muelli> Saevo: does SSHing into your server work with the pubkey auth?
[14:01] <oldskool_> does for me :)
[14:01] <bootch> Muelli, that's what is in my grub http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222559/
[14:02] <BluesKaj> nsudo,  lspci ,-nn | grep -i audio , pastebin the output
[14:02] <nsudo> @ BluesKaj I also tried uninstalling alsa and pulse audio, reinstalling them, changing the /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[14:02] <l057c0d3r> hmm.. so no one has any experience with ubuntu live usb with persistent turned on...
[14:02] <l057c0d3r> thanks to any info that can be given
[14:02] <bootch> Muelli, I'm worried that I didnt include some drivers in my kernel
[14:02] <nsudo> yo
[14:02] <actionParsnip> l057c0d3r: well...what do you need to know?
[14:02] <Muelli> bootch: hm. It lists UUID b6848bab-9915-4199-8ed0-5245e7714d90. Does blkid list that, too? And will that be available during boot?
[14:02] <aducologne> hi all! i am trying to centralize my ubuntu installations (like using landscape without using landscape). i wanted to use a shared /home on our nas that is shared by all ubuntu desktops. i also want to use a shared /usr ro on our nas so that I can centrally install applications to everyone's availability
[14:03] <oldskool_> Can someone help me with setting up a bridge for my vm server
[14:03] <oldskool_> it doesn't work...
[14:03] <leblebi> jrib http://pastebin.com/UbrtF0qQ
[14:03] <aducologne> just curious how to keep etc synced - should i share it too in that case?
[14:03] <l057c0d3r> actionParsnip, well....  when i boot with the persistent option...  it boots the first time.. but has the cow drive and sais can not access the drive.. and then every boot afterthat with persistent just locks up..
[14:03] <actionParsnip> oldskool_: what have you tried and what happens?
[14:03] <oldskool_> I assign a static ip for my eth0 in my /etc/network/interfaces
[14:03] <oldskool_> then I use dhcp for the br0
[14:03] <jrib> leblebi: pastebin the output of « sudo apt-get update »
[14:04] <oldskool_> in the /etc/network/interfaces
[14:04] <l057c0d3r> actionParsnip, tried several times now with the unbuntu live cd..  universal-usb-installer and unetbootin..  same thing every time
[14:04] <leblebi> jrib http://pastebin.com/WfnrPQjg
[14:04] <oldskool_> then it seems to take over the eth0 and I can't resolve any ips
[14:04] <actionParsnip> l057c0d3r: same USB stick each time?
[14:04] <Alex_portugal> I have a sony laptop (vaio 397XP)... with only Ubuntu. Does not reboot when i insert sudo reboot.... what can i do?
[14:04] <l057c0d3r> actionParsnip, nope.. even got a new usb stick the other day.. and same thing still..
[14:05] <actionParsnip> l057c0d3r: did you MD5 test the ISO you transferred?
[14:05] <actionParsnip> Alex_portugal: do you have the latest BIOS?
[14:05] <nsudo> http://pastebin.com/4ZXn0H3A @BluesKaj
[14:05] <Alex_portugal> yes i have
[14:05] <l057c0d3r> actionParsnip, maybe im making the casper-rw file to big or something but only making it 4 gig and got a 8 gig usb
[14:05] <bootch> Muelli, when I type blkid It gives noting, I'm on Thinkpad laptop I got only one hdd
[14:05] <Sindir> @Alex_portugal sudo shutdown -r 1
[14:05] <jrib> leblebi: apt-cache policy vlc
[14:06] <l057c0d3r> actionParsnip, yep..  even redownloaded and tried the lubuntu iso as well
[14:06] <Alex_portugal> ok
[14:06] <BluesKaj> nsudo,don't fool with pulse.conf
[14:06] <leblebi> jrib Unable to locate package vlc
[14:06] <Muelli> bootch: hm. I am confused. Can you paste the exact commands you entered and the exact output you receive?
[14:06] <oldskool_> actionParsnip: Can you explain how to setup a bridge for my vm server?
[14:06] <actionParsnip> !info vlc
[14:06] <oldskool_> actionParsnip: so I know if I doing it wrong
[14:06] <L3top> l057c0d3r:  again... check the md5sum of the image.
[14:06] <actionParsnip> leblebi: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  grep universe /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:06] <BuPy7> вав
[14:07] <nsudo> ok tell me what to do now
[14:07] <BuPy7> Hello!
[14:07] <l057c0d3r> l3top..  been there done that...  they all checked out..  all 4 iso.s i've downloaded
[14:07] <actionParsnip> oldskool_: is it not a setting of the VM ?
[14:07] <shomon> what is the best or most recommended video editing software for someone coming from commercial packages?
[14:07] <l057c0d3r> as long as i dont put persistent in the boot option it boots fine.. but like i said no persistent
[14:07] <actionParsnip> shomon: there is no most recommened, nor best
[14:07] <L3top> l057c0d3r: you mentioned casper... are you trying to use remastersys or something?
[14:07] <Saevo> Muelli: yes it does
[14:07] <shomon> not very good then?
[14:07] <oldskool_> actionParsnip: No I want it setup as a bridge not NAT... I think the vm installs a nat interface ... virsomething
[14:07] <bootch> Muelli, I forgot sudo sry here's result http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222569/
[14:08] <jrib> !best | shomon
[14:08] <Muelli> Saevo: so what's your exact problem then?
[14:08] <jrib> shomon: bestbot should have a list
[14:08] <Saevo> Muelli: thats whats mocking me
[14:08] <BuPy7> Windows true!
[14:08] <leblebi> actionParsnip no output :(
[14:08] <actionParsnip> shomon: http://techcityinc.com/2009/02/04/top-10-free-video-editors-for-ubuntu-linux/
[14:08] <l057c0d3r> casper-rw is the file...  used to store persistent on the usb stick... that is also booting the live session...
[14:08] <shomon> :) I understand thanks
[14:08] <actionParsnip> leblebi: try:  sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/precisesources.list
[14:08] <leblebi> actionParsnip this command: "grep universe /etc/apt/sources.list" does not show me anything.
[14:08] <Muelli> bootch: hm. So you're trying to make ext4 your rootfs. Do you have ext4 compiled in the kernel?
[14:08] <dr_willis_> i think theres 4 nonliner video editors out now. kino. pititv. openshot. and that one by the vlc guys
[14:08] <l057c0d3r> l3top  what im trying to do is get persistence on a live usb
[14:08] <L3top> I see... I have never used persistence l057c0d3r... however I do master distros... which is why I am familiar with it.
[14:09] <oldskool_> actionParsnip: Once I add br0 in the /etc/network/interfaces and reset the networking is that all I need to do to setup a bridge interface?
[14:09] <actionParsnip> shomon: what is the best video editor in Windows? or the most recommened? Same difference....you will only get people's opinions and noting more
[14:09] <L3top> l057c0d3r: I do not believe I will be able to help much if persistence is the only issue
[14:09] <oldskool_> actionParsnip: I think part of the problem is I am trying to keep a static ip for my eth0 and add dhcp for my br0
[14:10] <bootch> Muelli, I believe so, here's my kernel config http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222473/
[14:10] <Saevo> Muelli: ssh alone works, if I do rsync it doesn't
[14:10] <oldskool_> via /etc/network/interfaces
[14:10] <nsudo> purging pulse and re=installing now
[14:10] <actionParsnip> oldskool_: its not something I've done to be honest. I've seen lots of guides online but I'd start in #vmware to make sure your settings are appropriate for the networking you want to do
[14:10] <Muelli> Saevo: how do you know it doesn't work?
[14:10] <L3top> oldskool_: if you are trying to do routing you will need two physical nics.
[14:10] <Alex_portugal> I have a sony laptop (vaio 397XP)... with only Ubuntu. Does not reboot when i insert sudo reboot.... what can i do?
[14:10] <jrib> leblebi: note that your existing sources.list get overwritten, but yes you need to add universe as actionParsnip concluded
[14:10] <l057c0d3r> l3top  k thanks anyway....  it just dosn't make sense..  why it will boot the very first time.. and then lock every time after that when trying to use persistent
[14:10] <bootch> Muelli, I selected ext4 to be included in kernel not as module
[14:10] <shomon> I want to be able to choose one that does what maybe a step up from windows movie maker would do.. I use avidemux and I had a look at cinelerra years ago.. I wanted a few rather than a top one so thanks
[14:10] <leblebi> actionParsnip http://pastebin.com/yx7Ww0th
[14:10] <BuPy7> JognBall, ты пидар!
[14:10] <JohnBall> Hello
[14:10] <actionParsnip> jrib: the file is the default one from Precise with the good stuff enabled :)
[14:10] <JohnBall> Hello, Russian shlushka
[14:11] <shomon> we have lots of aftereffects people and I'd like them to switch to open source video if there's something comparable
[14:11] <Saevo> I tried it and I >> everything in a log with -v
[14:11] <Muelli> hm bootch. Seems so. Interesting indeed. And well, you're trying to boot off the machine you're currently running, right? i.e. not a virtual system or so where that UUID is not available..?
[14:11] <nsudo> @BluesKaj ok?
[14:11] <jrib> actionParsnip: right, but in case he's added some repositories of his own
[14:11] <leblebi> jrib what actionParsnip has gave me. They are official repos of Canocical?
[14:11] <jrib> leblebi: yes
[14:11] <Saevo> Muelli: I tried it and I >> everything in a log with -v
[14:11] <Sindir> Got a mac that's getting blocked by UFW on my linux. Any idea why it tried to connect with my linux system in the first place?
[14:11] <fantaghir> Jo :D
[14:11] <Muelli> Saevo: what did you try exactly and what is the exact output? Come on you have to be nice with us in order for us to help you.
[14:12] <bootch> Muelli, yep on this machine with no virtualiation
[14:12] <actionParsnip> leblebi: read the file, you can see it references the official sources.
[14:12] <oldskool_> L3top: I have a ubuntu server that I want as a vmserver... I want the static ip for my nic and bridge so it gives my vm's access their own ips instead of them using the NAT built into the software
[14:12] <htamayo> i'm having trouble with the graphical mode in ubuntu precise, in fact, i don't have graph mode, i installed precise using an iso when it was unstable, but now i understand that precise is lts, my question is: i'm having trouble with the video cause i used an unstable iso? is a better way to download the latest and then reinstall?
[14:13] <leblebi> actionParsnip he already told me that they are official :D
[14:13] <L3top> which VM are you using, and you really need 2 nics minimum to do this correctly oldskool_.
[14:13] <Muelli> hm bootch. I'm confused. Looks like it should just work^tm. But maybe you need to build a new initrd or so..? Do you have your cmdline and the error message again? (sorry, I closed the browsers and can't find it again)
[14:13] <bootch> Muelli, I did include my chipset driver and AHCI in kernel, but I fear I missed something
[14:13] <oldskool_> L3top: I have 2 nic's on my mobo can I utilize them?
[14:13] <dr_willis_> htamayo:  once you update and apt-get upgrade its the latest
[14:13] <L3top> oldskool_: absolutely.
[14:13] <Saevo> Muelli: cronjob as root will be excuted as root?
[14:13] <Muelli> bootch: there is "make localmodconfig" or so which tried to guess your hardware IIRC.
[14:13] <Muelli> Saevo: yes
[14:13] <L3top> oldskool_: which vm?
[14:13] <Saevo> Muelli: ok, very bad
[14:13] <oldskool_> L3top: How would I go about doing that?  .. virt-manager
[14:13] <oldskool_> ?
[14:14] <htamayo> dr_willis: thanks i will try cause i didn't upgrade
[14:14] <Saevo> Muelli: seems I found out why it doesnt work -.-
[14:14] <oldskool_> sorrry I am new to vm's on linux
[14:14] <oldskool_> not sure if that is the software I use
[14:14] <Muelli> Saevo: you're welcome ;-)
[14:14] <actionParsnip> leblebi: if you run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install vlc      does it install OK?
[14:14] <L3top> Which virtual machine oldskool_... vmware, virtualbox, kvm-qemu...
[14:14] <bootch> Muelli, here's my error message http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222394/ I did lspci -n and checked hardware manually I only couldnt find my wifi driver
[14:15] <L3top> oldskool_: I am not familiar with the ins and outs of them all.
[14:15] <bootch> Muelli, I used config from kernel-seeds.org if it is any help
[14:15] <oldskool_> kvm!
[14:15] <oldskool_> sorry had to figure that out
[14:15] <oldskool_> :P
[14:16] <oldskool_> vmware is avil on linux too?
[14:16] <Muelli> hm bootch. Maybe there is some unrecognised hardware. I would try localmodconfig or whatever it was called. Or maybe try with your current config and do an oldconfig just to check whether it's the configuration
[14:16] <L3top> oldskool_: yes. kvm probably has the best performance, virtualbox the easiest to use/configure... vmware somewhere in between.
[14:16] <leblebi> actionParsnip yes it works. thank you! But I need to ask you something else: where did you get this link: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/precisesources.list
[14:17] <actionParsnip> leblebi: its my dropbox public folder. I keep one there for when people start messing with their sources.list file and botch it
[14:17] <oldskool_> L3top: Cool so I made a good choice :)
[14:17] <l057c0d3r> l3top i think i might have found the problem..  fat32 can not have over a 4 gb file size....
[14:18] <l057c0d3r> sooo that might have something to do with it... going to try and make a smaller one and see if that helps
[14:18] <oldskool_> why is my other nic not showing up in my ifconfig does it need to have a cable plugged in before the interface is up? Shouldn't it be shown if I do a ifconfig regardless?
[14:18] <bootch> Muelli, before I used config from kernel-seeds.org I was able to find my wifi driver in make menuconfig now it's gone
[14:18] <bootch> Muelli, so how can I get it back?
[14:18] <Muelli> bootch: well. wifi should really not be important to boot.
[14:19] <bootch> Muelli, you're right
[14:19] <htamayo> other question: after the installation of precise i never get graphical mode, because an issue of fglrx driver, but ubuntu can't use and generic module for the video? in fact it's the first time that i have this problem in ubuntu, it always got me graph mode
[14:19] <Saevo> Muelli: is the a network boot option via wifi?
[14:19] <Muelli> bootch: so try both: you current configuration and then make oldconfig, and then make localmodconfig or smth like that. You'll find it ;-)
[14:19] <oldskool_> L3top: I was thinking I wanted to utilize the 2 nics anyhow .. Wanted to seperate my vmserver with one of my vm's so they look like 2 machines on the network
[14:20] <theadmin> htamayo: Remove fglrx
[14:20] <SilverSlimer> is anyone here already using windows 8?
[14:20] <theadmin> SilverSlimer: Wrong channel
[14:20] <Saevo> Muelli: yup, it worked
[14:20] <bootch> Muelli, thx will try it!
[14:20] <SilverSlimer> theadmin just noticed lol
[14:20] <htamayo> theadmin: and then ubuntu will choose another driver?
[14:20] <theadmin> htamayo: Yes, then Ubuntu will use the opensource one, "radeon"
[14:20] <L3top> oldskool_: public bridge particularly relevant to you... but you should give the whole thing a read. http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Networking
[14:21] <Saevo> SilverSlimer: Im using Windows 2000 youre oldfashioned
[14:21] <htamayo> theadmin, in fact that is the default option but it doesn't work
[14:21] <Saevo> SilverSlimer: lets talk in #offtopic
[14:21] <theadmin> htamayo: Hm, I dunno if it supports all devices
[14:22] <leblebi> actionParsnip I will install fresh Ubuntu 12.04.1 now. It will have exactly the same source.list file with yours (which you gave me here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/precisesources.list
[14:22] <actionParsnip> leblebi: mine has all the repos enabled. Yours either has missing lines, or they are commented out
[14:22] <borneo> Is this the channel to ask Package maintenance questions in? I'm trying to build add a new flavor of a package and want to know if there is a tool to help aid creating the /debian entries.
[14:23] <htamayo> theadmn: well yes it support my video card, i'm use ubuntu since 4 years i never got this problem, in other distros yes cause the restricted repos but in ubuntu i got video at first boot, even in live mode
[14:23] <oldskool_> L3top: THanks I'm gonna go read up
[14:23] <L3top> oldskool_: this will provide you an internal and external network... it should be noted that if one of your nics is wireless... this doesn't count. It will not bridge wireless.
[14:23] <Muelli> !motu | borneo may here they know
[14:23] <oldskool_> L3top: Yeah I thought I saw something about not being able to bridge wirless
[14:24] <oldskool_> L3top: KK gimme a sec to read up on this
[14:24] <borneo> Muelli: 谢谢
[14:27] <l057c0d3r> pny usb drivers are good drives right.. i always thought pny was a good brand..  but they were cheep  soo.. maybe the drives are just junk ...  sigh
[14:28] <Saevo> l057c0d3r: what do you want us to tell?
[14:28] <l057c0d3r> saevo.. ahh nothing really..  still fighting to get persistent working
[14:29] <l057c0d3r> on live usb
[14:29] <oldskool_> L3top:
[14:29] <Saevo> l057c0d3r: use kingston
[14:29] <oldskool_> L3top: I was doing right the first time...
[14:30] <Saevo> l057c0d3r: theyre slow, but they never failed me
[14:30] <oldskool_> L3top: THe confusion was that my eth0 wasn't getting a ip and taking on the first dhcp ip from my pool .... I always use static and opened a pool of 10 ip's I planned to use for vm's..
[14:30] <Saevo> bye guys
[14:31] <l057c0d3r> saevo:  yeah..  got one more thing im going to try making a smaller casper-rw file..  if that doesn't work.. i might just install to the usb with no swap and make tmp use tmpfs / ram
[14:31] <oldskool_> L3top: Thanks for the read bro :)
[14:31] <htamayo> quit
[14:34] <Imortalis> boa pessoal
[14:34] <Imortalis> estou a tentar instalar o ubuntu server via pen usb mas da-me sempre erro ?
[14:34] <Imortalis> na altura de verificar os pacotes pelo cdrom, diz que nao enonctra o cdrom
[14:35] <Imortalis> ..
[14:36] <tomreyn> !pt | Imortalis
[14:36] <CTLwm> anyone can recommend a good software to communicate between users in LAN?
[14:36] <L3top> oldskool_ ... not if you are using a single nic. This exposes traffic and is not recommended. Recieving/providing dhcp over a single connection causes all sorts of stupid problems as any traffic reaching that box is already on the destination network.  This is not suggested... It is a bad idea. What you're asking to do has a severe overhead, and is not intended for your purposes.
[14:36] <L3top> oh... he gone.
[14:37] <shomon> CTLwm, I used to use talk
[14:39] <BluesKaj> nsudo, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , add this line to the bottom , options snd_hda_intel index=0 , then save the file and do , sudo also force-reload
[14:40] <install> can anyone help with bootloader installation on 12.04, on top of RAID 0? I can't understand which volume should I select
[14:40] <L3top> nsudo: sudo alsa force-reload ^^ (force-reload can be glitchy... if it pukes errors it is best to reboot)
[14:40] <CTLwm> shomon: talk, what? any full name?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> nsudo, correction , sudo alsa force-reload
[14:43] <eduard> I seem to be missing var/www
[14:43] <BluesKaj> nsudo, actually before the reload do . sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[14:44] <jrib> eduard: what makes you think that?
[14:44] <eduard> when I go to the var directory and type ls it doesnt show
[14:44] <jrib> eduard: what does "ls -ld /var/www/" return?
[14:45] <eduard> ls -ld /var/www/
[14:45] <eduard> makes
[14:46] <eduard> No such file or directory
[14:46] <jrib> eduard: how did you install ubuntu?
[14:46] <K4k> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my Macbook Air 4.2 and I've noticed that tripple clicking on text, the URL bar in firefox, for example, it does not highlight the entire text as it does in Ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop. Does anyone have information on whether the MBA has issues with this, google searches have not pulled up anything so far.
[14:46] <jrib> eduard: and have you installed apache?
[14:46] <Imortalis> hello
[14:46] <Imortalis>  <Imortalis> how can install zentyal from usb pen drive ?
[14:46] <Imortalis> hello
[14:46] <Imortalis>  <Imortalis> how can install zentyal from usb pen drive ?
[14:46] <Imortalis> hello, i try to install ubuntu server 12.04 from usb pen drive
[14:46] <FloodBot1> Imortalis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:47] <Imortalis> error when try cdrom drive
[14:47] <jrib> Imortalis: not sure why you thought that would be a good idea, but please don't do it again
[14:50] <eduard> ls: cannot access /var/www/: No such file or director
[14:50] <eduard> to be precise
[14:51] <jrib> eduard: and have you installed apache or some other web server?
[14:51] <eduard> I just tried to install apache
[14:51] <eduard> and I got some error things
[14:52] <jrib> eduard: you should pastebin
[14:52] <eduard> I installed ubuntu years ago thru my vista
[14:52] <eduard> as dual boo
[14:52] <eduard> t
[14:53] <install> can anyone help with bootloader installation on 12.04, on top of RAID 0? I can't understand which volume should I select
[14:53] <OpenbsdVbox> eduard: years ago? then the version you are using is probably no longer supported
[14:53] <K4k> install: are you using the onboard RAID controller on the motherboard of your computer or a seperate RAID card?
[14:53] <eduard> yes I know thats why im trying to upgrade, I found this guide online
[14:54] <install> K4k: onboard AMD 880
[14:54] <dr_willis> eduard:  you did a WUBI install inside windows?
[14:54] <OpenbsdVbox> eduard: much more straightforward to install afresh
[14:54] <io2> hi, I have been told that ubuntu is to become ads - supported, is this true?
[14:55] <dr_willis> heard from whom?
[14:55] <eduard> I cant its a laptop and my cd thing is messed up and this is now the only os I have on here
[14:55] <io2> hmm slashdot, reddit, etc
[14:55] <K4k> install: and, with RAID setup you still see two seperate disks?
[14:55] <dr_willis> eduard:  boot/install from usb?
[14:56] <ampd> dr_willis: the amazon lens
[14:56] <eduard> that could work xD
[14:56] <io2> so, is this true or is it much ado about nothing?
[14:56] <ampd> io2: it will be installed by default in unity
[14:56] <ampd> io2: you can uninstall it
[14:56] <eduard> dr_willis: thank you
[14:56] <ampd> io2: i use awesome wm with ubuntu, so it won't effect me at all
[14:56] <dr_willis> i dont consider the amazon lense to be 'ad supported'
[14:56] <install> K4k: I actually see 6 possible choices after it fails to find /dev/sda . Googled around and the output of /dev/mapper is paste.ubuntu.com/1222659/
[14:57] <io2> what's the purpose of having it installed by default then?
[14:57] <install> io2: money ;)
[14:57] <dr_willis> unless we get special offer  wallpaper.
[14:57] <io2> install: of course
[14:57] <jrib> io2: as I understand it, it's basically like when you do a google search and you get relevant results from amazon on the side...
[14:57] <ampd> io2: probably money, i assume it's like when you install something and they have the check box for google bar or something on by default
[14:57] <io2> i see
[14:57] <dr_willis> amazon lens is the sort of thing i would install sounds like.
[14:58] <io2> is there going to be a respin of ubuntu removing that by default?
[14:58] <io2> and all the "ads - related" stuff that might pour in?
[14:58] <dr_willis> i got most evey lens installed that i can find
[14:58] <ampd> dr_willis: i'm not opposed to it, but i wouldn't want everything i search for in launcher going to amazon. i'd rather have something separate
[14:58] <K4k> install: what is the output of "fdisk -l"
[14:59] <install> K4k: nothing
[14:59] <dr_willis> you click on the amazon/shopping icon i imagine and you search amazon.. same as the askubuntu.com lens works now i imagine
[14:59] <OpenbsdVbox> install: sudo fdisk -l
[14:59] <dr_willis> a 'shopping' lens with scopes for different online stores..
[14:59] <K4k> OpenbsdVbox: oh, thank you XD
[14:59] <ampd> dr_willis: it loads in launcher when you search for something if you scroll down
[14:59] <io2> isn't this somewhat awkward?
[15:00] <K4k> I always forget about that, I just assume people troubleshoot after having run sudo -i
[15:00] <install> OpenbsdVbox: K4k fdisk: unable to seek on /dev/sda: Invalid argument
[15:00] <OpenbsdVbox> K4k: sudo -i is hardly ever neccessary
[15:00] <dr_willis> how it will be finalized - i imagine remains to be seen
[15:00] <K4k> OpenbsdVbox: to each his/her own I suppose.
[15:01] <io2> dr_willis: is there any petition online to sign against such a feature?
[15:01] <gotgnu> I have a windows phone 7 is there a way to sync music with ubuntu?
[15:01] <dr_willis> io2:  no idea. ubuntu is not a democracy
[15:01] <install> K4k: yes, but sometimes while troubleshooting with -i you can make even a bigger mess if you're not carefull
[15:01] <K4k> true
[15:02] <io2> dr_willis: heh
[15:02] <io2> right
[15:02] <dr_willis> and lens and scopes are normally easy to remove
[15:02] <dr_willis> we need a lens lens to help find more lens....
[15:03] <K4k> install: so, I've run into this before and I'm trying to find the documentation I had at the time. Basically, Ubuntu is seeing it as a software based raid. Try hunting around for info regarding grub2 and dm-raid. I'm coming up empty so far though (at least anything recent/relevant)
[15:04] <dr_willis> im glad the askubuntu lens/scope is in the default 12.10
[15:04] <OpenbsdVbox> !raid | K4k
[15:04] <K4k> OpenbsdVbox: heh, I really need to learn to operate ubottu :)
[15:05] <install> K4k: am i going to have lower performance, or maybe try to load some driver?
[15:06] <ampd> dr_willis: any interesting lens' you can recommend?
[15:06] <elaminato> hey. I am looking for a browser which works in the shell for ubuntu 12.04? is there such thing? :D
[15:06] <OpenbsdVbox> !browser | elaminato
[15:06] <jonysiguel> ummm, not that I know of
[15:06] <melkor> It turns out the HDD enclosure I bought, doesn't work with ubuntu and will ruin hard drive partitions when it is mounted. Does anybody know of a good hdd enclosure that works with linux?
[15:07] <dr_willis> ampd i seem to use the askubuntu lens in here like every 5 min. ;) they got a list of lens there alsi i recall
[15:07] <dr_willis> melkor:  weird.. ive nevere seen one NOT work reguardless of os.
[15:08] <ampd> dr_willis: hah, thanks, i'll take a look. still havent warmed up to unity yet
[15:08] <dr_willis> melkor:  and ive used dozens of them over the years
[15:08] <K4k> install: I honestly don't know. I stopped using fake/soft raid in favor of "zfs for linux" a while back. I don't know if that's officially supported under Ubuntu though because it's still in a < v.1 RC status, according to the project page.
[15:09] <melkor> dr_willis: my partitions will get created by gparted, and then if I unmount and mount again, they are gone.
[15:09] <melkor> dr_willis: it works fine in windows and the drive never had a problem before I put it in the enclosure.
[15:09] <sayers> HDD issues...
[15:10] <dr_willis> melkor:  err.. you do use the 'apply/write changes' button? ;)
[15:10] <OpenbsdVbox> melkor: are you sure you are applying the changes from gparted
[15:10] <OpenbsdVbox> dr_willis: read my mind :)
[15:10] <melkor> OpenbsdVbox: yes
[15:11] <dr_willis> unless the enclosure has some sort of av/mbr protection. ;)
[15:11] <melkor> dr_willis: absolutely, I have formated it numerous times, I have even briefly written to it afterwards. It alwas fails.
[15:11] <dr_willis> i have seen enclousres not supply enough power and be flakey
[15:11] <OpenbsdVbox> melkor: sounds like a make to avoid in the future
[15:12] <melkor> Some othe people have had the same problem in the amazon reviews.
[15:12] <melkor> dr_willis: this has a two pronged usb port.
[15:12] <melkor> I haven't tried plugging in both prongs.
[15:13] <melkor> Do you have a recommended brand of enclosure?
[15:13] <dr_willis> ive seen hd enclousere not work unless both are in..
[15:13] <dr_willis> expecialy with higher speed hds
[15:14] <dr_willis> i tend to use the bigger powered enclosures. not really worth the $$/time to put a hd in a portable enclosure. unless its a hd i allready have
[15:15] <dr_willis> i must have 10+ external usb hds....
[15:15] <dr_willis> 4+ are of the portable type
[15:16] <dr_willis> iomega brand has issues.. had to return one segate for a new one. i think i got an old old segate thats dieing now.  but it dies then comes back. ;)
[15:20] <dr_willis> bbl
[15:21] <Sonderblade> is there a plugin to get chromium to play silverlight on ubuntu?
[15:21] <OpenbsdVbox> !moonlight | Sonderblade
[15:22] <Sonderblade> apt-get can't find that package
[15:22] <OpenbsdVbox> Sonderblade: best to avoid silverlight altogether
[15:22] <OpenbsdVbox> !find moonlight
[15:22] <xangua> OpenbsdVbox: Sonderblade moonlight is an abandoned project
[15:22] <OpenbsdVbox> xangua: ah
[15:23] <d3bug> Moonlight also happens to be the name of a TV show I like. :)
[15:23] <Sonderblade> xangua: so there is no way?
[15:23] <OpenbsdVbox> xangua: that factiod needs removing/revising then
[15:28] <u42p> hi, i understand ufw is a ubuntu thing? how can i make it not spam dmesg but log to a file instead?
[15:28] <OpenbsdVbox> !ufw | u42p
[15:28] <defaultro> hey folks, i would like to install ubuntu. However, the fonts is what always make me worry. I got used to Windows font being nicer
[15:29] <Guest19287> moirzesz
[15:29] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: whats wrong with the fonts?
[15:29] <defaultro> also, Microsoft Office, what's the very closest I can use?
[15:29] <dr_willis> defaultro:  cant say ive noticed windows fonts being nicer. at least not in yeaaars.
[15:29] <dr_willis> defaultro:  libreoffice is the standard
[15:29] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: libreoffice is an alternative
[15:30] <defaultro> OpenbsdVbox, I haven't used ubuntu. The xorg I am used to is not nice
[15:30] <defaultro> cool
[15:30] <dr_willis> 'the xorg' ?
[15:30] <defaultro> the gui
[15:30] <Pinkamena_D> hello, i am a sort of gamer transferring over to linux. I am trying to get one of my favorites, haloCE (the first one) on ubuntu. I have followed several online guides on how to do this using WINE and it installs ok but after loading the graphics driver does not seem to work, it shows a black screen or weird lines and shapes with the background menu music.
[15:30] <defaultro> the display manager
[15:30] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: what was the last time you tried linux?
[15:30] <defaultro> i'm a command line user in linux
[15:30] <dr_willis> desktops are  easially changed
[15:30] <Pinkamena_D> i have a Mobility Radeon X1300 card
[15:30] <defaultro> i started using linuix sinc 1994
[15:31] <defaultro> but 95% command line and not X
[15:31] <defaultro> does  libreoffice come with ubuntu?
[15:31] <dr_willis> at least you should know linux fundamentals. ;)
[15:31] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: so you just don't like the console font?
[15:31] <defaultro> yes
[15:31] <dr_willis> defaultro:  libreoffice is the standard default office suit
[15:32] <defaultro> dr_willis, I know the command lines very well
[15:32] <defaultro> can I exchange files between microsoft office?
[15:32] <dr_willis> libreoffica is avail for windows also
[15:32] <u42p> OpenbsdVbox: cheers, that only talks about toggling logging, no mention of logging to a file
[15:32] <AndrewM_> Hello I've got bind9 configured on two ubuntu 12.02 servers. Each server is in a different domain and has a masters zone which works happily for its respective domain. I've added forwarders on each to point to the other server so that they can queries for the other domain get forwarded to the other server. Unfortunantly I cannot get it to work. I have also tried adding specific forwarder zones for the other domain to each with no ava
[15:32] <defaultro> i mean, is the doc, xls file compatible?
[15:32] <AndrewM_> s? Help/advice appreciated. Can share configs if required.
[15:33] <OpenbsdVbox> u42p: sorry, i just showed you the factoid to tell you that ufw is for managing the firewall (not just a "ubuntu thing")
[15:34] <u42p> OpenbsdVbox: oh i know. it is made by canonical though, that's what i meant. i use it on a non-ubuntu box
[15:34] <defaultro> what is a nice gui interface?
[15:34] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: libreoffice is as close as you will get to being compatible with microsoft office
[15:34] <defaultro> cool
[15:34] <dr_willis> defaultro: try the default unity
[15:34] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: depends what you like
[15:34] <defaultro> it's because the people who will be using this box is my wife and kids
[15:35] <defaultro> maybe Windows like interface
[15:35] <dr_willis> lubuntu is close to the old win95 type desktop. unity is more mondern
[15:35] <dr_willis> both can be installed..
[15:35] <defaultro> unity then is what I should go
[15:35] <defaultro> cool
[15:35] <BluesKaj> unity is modern ? ...hehe
[15:35] <defaultro> they're currently using windows 7
[15:35] <dr_willis> just pick what to use at login screen
[15:35] <defaultro> ah, cool, i'll let them try it then
[15:35] <defaultro> this friggin windows 7 is so full of virus
[15:36] <BluesKaj> defaultro, the closest experience to a windows gui is KDE , IMO
[15:36] <nickjr> ciao!
[15:36] <defaultro> my fedora 12 has been running for almost 3 years now and never slowed down
[15:36] <dr_willis> kde can be confuseing however
[15:36] <nickjr> !list
[15:36] <defaultro> i know kde and gnome
[15:36] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: if your windows 7 has viruses you must be doing something wrong
[15:36] <dr_willis> what is with people going caio,list.....
[15:36] <defaultro> i love enlightenment :P
[15:36] <dr_willis> defaultro:  also installable..
[15:36] <defaultro> will do
[15:37] <dr_willis> i fine 'e'  sort of weird in ways
[15:37] <defaultro> what about mac interface? :p
[15:37] <defaultro> e is very old
[15:37] <Tudu> Hey
[15:37] <dr_willis> buy a mac
[15:37] <dr_willis> E17 i think just had some updates/release last few months
[15:37] <defaultro> what version of firefox is in ubuntu?
[15:38] <defaultro> oh cool
[15:38] <dr_willis> !firefox
[15:38] <OpenbsdVbox> !info firefox | defaultro
[15:38] <defaultro> very cool
[15:38] <crizis> defaultro, current LTS tracks firefox releases, so it has the newest firefox
[15:38] <defaultro> when I update my firefox here in my jurassic fedora, it stops working until i restore the old version
[15:38] <defaultro> cool crizis
[15:38] <ToxicFrog> Having a bit of a bluetooth problem with 12.04.1
[15:39] <defaultro> i really heard good things about ubuntu and will definitely install it today
[15:39] <ToxicFrog> It can pair with my phone just fine, and send files to it. Can't browse it, but the phone doesn't support OBEX FTP, so that's expected.
[15:39] <ToxicFrog> However, when I try to send files from my phone to the computer, I get a generic "transfer failed" message from the phone.
[15:39] <defaultro> where is the safe download site?
[15:39] <nickjr> ciaooo
[15:39] <dr_willis> !download
[15:39] <defaultro> found it
[15:40] <webfox> I figured that in order to console-setup load after a restart I have to type setupcon command. Then I need to from each restart automatically run this command. could someone help me figure where to add this command in order to it load every machine starting please?
[15:40] <nsudo> not helping @Blues
[15:40] <defaultro> this is in topic, ttp://ubottu.com/y/dl
[15:40] <Tudu> Hey
[15:40] <ToxicFrog> Installing obexpushd and running it fixes this - the phone can send files just fine and obexpushd catches it
[15:40] <dr_willis> webfox:  /etc/rc.local perhaps
[15:40] <Tudu> Any one can hear me ???
[15:40] <Tudu> i am new to XChat
[15:40] <webfox> dr_willis, let me test it.
[15:40] <nsudo> Please some one help me fixing my sound issues 12.04
[15:40] <dr_willis> Tudu:  yes
[15:40] <ToxicFrog> However, it would be nice to have this integrated with the rest of the bluetooth stuff - eg, phone sends file, get a confirmation message in the same way I do when it tries to pair, pick a download location
[15:40] <tomreyn> Tudu: not hear, but read
[15:40] <pr0metheu5> So, Ubuntu 12.04 won't detect my nVidia optimus gfx card. I mean, it shows up in lspci, but not in "Additional Drivers," to install and enable it.
[15:40] <ToxicFrog> Is there some package or configuration I'm missing?
[15:41] <Mandalord> !ask
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Tudu, can't you see the text ?
[15:41] <Tudu> Yes Great
[15:41] <dr_willis> pr0metheu5:  for optimus you need to uyse the bumble tools to allow it
[15:41] <Tudu> I can see
[15:41] <ToxicFrog> Or does the default/gnome bluetooth configuration stuff just not support receiving OBEX PUSH, and i'm stuck with running obexpushd by hand?
[15:41] <dr_willis> bulblebee ;)
[15:42] <Tudu> How is ubuntu 12.04 ?
[15:42] <pr0metheu5> dr_willis it used to be, the nVidia drivers would show up in "additional drivers," before. Has anything changed?
[15:42] <nsudo> @BluesKaj please help me sir
[15:42] <dr_willis> bumblebee - i think theres a  wiki \age
[15:42] <OpenbsdVbox> Tudu: try it and find out
[15:42] <dr_willis> pr0metheu5:  with optimus systems...    yes...
[15:42] <BluesKaj> nsudo, didn't you see my posts to you , above ?
[15:42] <dr_willis> pr0metheu5:  with nonoptimus systems...    no...
[15:42] <pr0metheu5> dr_willis, Aah, well, bullocks. I hate the horrible nVidia support on Linux.
[15:42] <dr_willis> i have few nvidia issues. but i dont use optimus
[15:42] <decci> I have a small Ubuntu network (6 user) with Ubuntu Server.  I need a disaster recovery plan and implementation for the Server (user data backups are automatic), users use the server for storing only data and using DaviCal calendar system.  Ideal would be a way to get the server backup and running remotely in the event of a hardware failure. (assuming someone who would replace hardware does not know much about Ubuntu server).
[15:43] <dr_willis> and i hear optimus/bumblebee is getting good
[15:43] <pr0metheu5> dr_willis, yes, it has come a long way.
[15:43] <defaultro> looks like my download is from uk. it's 98k/sec :(
[15:43] <pr0metheu5> dr_willis thanks for your help, sir.
[15:43] <tomreyn> ToxicFrog: sounds like you want to script this. i don't know ehther there are hooks in gnome or elsewhere to trigger the script, though, so you might need to click on a button
[15:43] <BluesKaj> nsudo, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , add this line to the bottom , options snd_hda_intel index=0 , then save the file and do , sudo  modprobe snd_hda_intel , then reboot
[15:43] <dr_willis> defaultro:  thats why the factoid suggested torrents
[15:43] <tomreyn> ToxicFrog: but then there are hooks for almost everything
[15:43] <nsudo> yo
[15:44] <defaultro> k
[15:44] <ToxicFrog> tomreyn: script what, the launching of obexpushd?
[15:44] <tomreyn> ToxicFrog: yes
[15:44] <ToxicFrog> Yeah, I can do that, I was wondering if there was official push-receive support I just can't figure out how to enable or something
[15:44] <Tudu> I am alrady using ubuntu 12.04 :) Coool :P
[15:44] <defaultro> I don't see torrent links here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[15:44] <webfox> Ubuntu 12.04 rocks! ;)
[15:44] <tomreyn> ToxicFrog: i couldn't tell, maybe someone else can. have you checked the community help wiki, yet?
[15:45] <OpenbsdVbox> !torrents | defaultro
[15:45] <puppy_parade> I'm trying to map a keyboard page back/page fwd button in vim, but when I try to get the key code using ctrl V. it doesn't work.
[15:45] <puppy_parade> I have the X keycode, can I use that for mappings in vim?
[15:45] <defaultro> thanks muc
[15:45] <defaultro> h
[15:46] <defaultro> I also found this, not sure, if it's good. I see torrent files - http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[15:46] <ToxicFrog> tomreyn: yeah, it was...not helpful.
[15:46] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: yes, thats the official site
[15:46] <defaultro> File not found - http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/desktop/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[15:47] <ToxicFrog> tomreyn: it has a lot of information, but all of it is for solving problems I don't have; AFAICT there's nothing on OBEX PUSH support.
[15:47] <nsudo> @blues sound still shows output as dummy device
[15:47] <nsudo> i did as you instructed sir
[15:47] <ToxicFrog> (or, well, receiving it; there's stuff on getting it working for sending, but that's already working for me)
[15:47] <Z0oM> hi
[15:47] <defaultro> i'm good now
[15:48] <webfox> dr_willis, did not work.
[15:49] <webfox> where do I put a command in order to it execute each machine boot ?
[15:49] <defaultro> nice 5 mins remaining
[15:50] <jrib> webfox: what kind of command?
[15:51] <webfox> jrib setupcon
[15:51] <webfox> jrib, I think it loads or reloads the console-setup
[15:52] <jrib> webfox: is there a reason you are not using /etc/default/console-setup?
[15:52] <daddy> thats too much to type...
[15:53] <webfox> jrib, I am, but it does not keep the setting from one restart to another.
[15:53] <tomreyn> ToxicFrog: since obexpushd is a daemon, does it have an init script? and if so, how about starting it whenever your system enters the multi-user init stage?
[15:54] <tomreyn> ToxicFrog: that's still not integration, but at least receiving files should work by default then, i guess.
[15:54] <nsudo> @blueskaj what do i do now
[15:54] <webfox> jrib, I would have to load it manually each new restart. The file is ok but it is not used during boot, then I need to open it every once I boot the machine or setupcon command.
[15:54] <ToxicFrog> tomreyn: it doesn't, but it wouldn't be hard to write one.
[15:55] <tomreyn> i bet
[15:55] <jrib> webfox: have you tried running « sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup »
[15:55] <ToxicFrog> A better approach, I think, would be to - as you suggested earlier - hook it up via gnome so that it launches when a device is paired with and exits when unpaired
[15:55] <BluesKaj> nsudo, did you follow the suggestion i gave you , above ?
[15:55] <Aster|Lost> So, I did something. And now I can't login anymore.. My password is correct, and when I type it into the startup login prompt thing, it just gives me a blank screen before setting me back to the login screen... However, logging in to the guest account works fine..
[15:55] <ToxicFrog> And for bonus points, pipe it through something that can ask for confirmation when receiving files
[15:55] <webfox> jrib, yes, this is the way I configure it. But after a restart everything comes back as was before.
[15:55] <nsudo> yes, i did a restart but it still shows dummy device
[15:55] <ToxicFrog> Assuming, of course, that the necessary hooks exist in gnome.
[15:55] <nsudo> i followed al instructions
[15:56] <jrib> webfox: hmm, that shouldn't be happening
[15:56] <matthew117> list/
[15:56] <OpenbsdVbox> Aster|Lost: might be helpful to know what it was you did
[15:56] <jrib> webfox: maybe try doing a « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[15:56] <Aster|Lost> OpenbsdVbox, I attempted to start X on display 2 in TTY 1.
[15:57] <landi> Hey there, i have a problem after the newest LTS update. My system starts but all i can see is a black screen and a blinking cursor. Ctrl+Alt+F1-4 doesn't work anymore. Someone help me please?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> I'm talking about the remote pc , correct , nsudo ?
[15:57] <tech936> im guessing the ubuntu server irc is ubunuserver?
[15:58] <OpenbsdVbox> !server | tech936
[15:58] <webfox> jrib, already running.
[15:58] <nsudo> ya
[15:58] <OpenbsdVbox> !nomodeset | landi
[15:58] <BluesKaj> can you reboot a remote pc , or is the pc close to you  , nsudo?
[15:59] <melkor>  Anybody know what I can do about wireless that cuts out?
[15:59] <nsudo> its a pc close to me
[15:59] <jrib> webfox: you're on 12.04?  There are some bugs on earlier versions regarding console-setup
[15:59] <nsudo> not remote
[15:59] <landi> Thank you ubottu, i'll read that
[15:59] <webfox> jrib, yes 12.04 Server
[15:59] <tomreyn> ToxicFrog: in case you're currently using bluez-gnome, try replacing it with gnome-bluetooth and see if this helps
[16:00] <BluesKaj> nsudo, pls use my nick so i can see it ..my nick will highkight
[16:00] <John> Hello, i have a jpg image and i want it to fill more then 1 page. How would i get it to print?
[16:00] <jrib> webfox: well you can probably workaround it by putting setupcon in your /etc/rc.local but it really should be working without needing that.  You should consider filing a bug
[16:00] <nsudo> ok
[16:01] <ToxicFrog> tomreyn: already using gnome-bluetooth. This is a clean install of 12.04, so
[16:01] <tomreyn> okay, was just a guess
[16:01] <xangua> tomreyn: doesn's both use bluez¿
[16:02] <nsudo> BluesKaj so how do we take this forward now
[16:02] <BluesKaj> nsudo, I suggest you install pavucontrol , it can help
[16:03] <decci> We want to set up a simple service that when you send an email and will hold the email for a certain amount of time and then forward it.
[16:03] <nsudo> BluesKaj Ok
[16:04] <john____> hello, i have a jpg image how would i get  it to fill 4 pages, huge
[16:05] <webfox> jrib, it do not work either if I add setupcon on /etc/rc.local
[16:05] <webfox> s/do/does
[16:05] <jrib> webfox: you added it before the exit line?
[16:05] <webfox> jrib, yes
[16:07] <AaronCampbell> When I used to type a command in terminal that wasn't valid it would say "command not found" and suggest packages that contained that command.  On a new install I don't get any suggestions.  Is there a package I can install that will put that back?
[16:07] <jrib> AaronCampbell: command-not-found
[16:07] <nsudo> BluesKaj I have installed via Synaptic do i restart now?
[16:08] <jrib> webfox: I don't know what the right way to fix your issue is.  It sounds like a bug to be honest
[16:08] <jrib> webfox: remove it from your rc.local.  Have you tried the --save-only option to setupcon?
[16:09] <webfox> jrib, no, I just use setupcon --save-only ?
[16:09] <AaronCampbell> jrib: I just checked and it looks like that's installed
[16:09] <kodo_> hi everybody
[16:09] <jrib> webfox: I think so.  Again, I have no experience with this
[16:10] <jrib> webfox: I see that /etc/init/console-setup.conf just loads some keymap that's saved.  And I think that setupcon --save-only will save your settings to the right place.  But I'd also expect for the dpkg-reconfigure console-setup to do all this for you
[16:10] <nsudo> BluesKaj I have installed via Synaptic do i restart now?
[16:10] <jrib> AaronCampbell: you need to make sure your shell is sourcing the relevant config file
[16:10] <kodo_> i've just installed shockwave plugin but when i try to use youtube it cannot  load the plug in..anyone can help me?
[16:11] <OpenbsdVbox> !flash | kodo_
[16:11] <webfox> jrib, well, lets see what happens. Just used --save-only option
[16:11] <BluesKaj> nsudo, no , open pavucontrol and set up your outputs , alt+f2 pavucontrol
[16:12] <smcs> list
[16:13] <AaronCampbell> Thanks jrib ... I got it working.  I appreciate the help
[16:13] <webfox> jrib, no. did not solve it.
[16:14] <jrib> webfox: can you describe exactly what doesn't work?  Are you modifying the font or just modifying the keymap?  (bear with me as I'm not familiar with setupcon and console-setup)
[16:14] <webfox> jrib, I am just changing the default font type and size.
[16:15] <nsudo> BluesKaj: still dummy sound device
[16:16] <nsudo> BluesKaj: still dummy sound device
[16:16] <BluesKaj> nsudo, you left too soon , have some patience please , , open pavucontrol and set up your outputs , alt+f2 pavucontrol
[16:19] <nsudo> BluesKaj: No output device available
[16:19] <l057c0d3r> just wanted to thank everyone for the help earlier.. i actually figured out the problem finally.. and got persistence working on my lubuntu live usb..  also got password added to lubuntu live session account and got my account added and set to auto login :-)
[16:19] <nsudo> BluesKaj: No output device available; only virtual device is shown as Dummy Output
[16:20] <l057c0d3r> decided to try and make the casper-rw file from 4 gb to 3.  even though it said it supported up to 4 on fat32.  and it worked
[16:20] <nsudo> BluesKaj: No output device available; Hardware output devices are none
[16:20] <l057c0d3r> so a gig less space.. but oh well... i can use another usb to store personal files if needed... since i dont want to use the hdd.,  because i want it to be a portable system
[16:22] <jrib> webfox: what changes do you make exactly?  I'll try here and see what happens
[16:22] <BluesKaj> nsudo , lsmod | grep snd , paste the output , I need to know if the kernel module even exists
[16:24] <nsudo> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/CSdr9u02
[16:25] <nsudo> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/CSdr9u02
[16:26] <peak> I recently install fedora on ubuntu (dualboot ) , After installing fedora i can´t login ubuntu .Help me out !!!
[16:26] <nsudo> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/CSdr9u02
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> peak, Is the fedora wheezy?
[16:28] <peak> wilee-nilee: fedora 17( yum based )
[16:28] <l057c0d3r> well thanks again for the help....  may not have found the answer... but at least you all pointed me in the right direction and i cant thank you enough for that... happy as hell right now.. take it easy all.. and good luck with your linux adventures
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> peak, oops Thats a debian release my mistake, fedora has the grub control?
[16:30] <nsudo> BluesKaj did you manage to look at the pastebin
[16:30] <BluesKaj> nsudo, try this , sudo modprobe snd_hda_codec , then , sudo alsa force-reload , if there's no output after the force reload , then reboot
[16:31] <UbuntuNoob> Hello, I'm having difficulty installing ubuntu
[16:31] <peak> wilee-nilee: fedora is not debian based .I just want to know how to configure grub so that i can have my ubuntu back
[16:31] <nsudo> BluesKaj Yo
[16:31] <BluesKaj> nsudo, yo ?
[16:32] <AaronCampbell> Under the little gear icon in the top right in 12.04 there was an option to set startup applications.  On a fresh install of 12.10 it's not.  Am I just missing a package?  Or did it move?
[16:32] <OpenbsdVbox> !12.10 | AaronCampbell
[16:32] <nsudo> BluesKaj I am rebooting now
[16:33] <UbuntuNoob> I downloaded the 12.04 ISO, and used Daemon Tools Pro to burn it onto a DVD. I booted my computer from the disk and checked it for defaults, of which there are none. I go to install alongside Windows 7. It brings up a Command Line Interface with a load of text, ejects the disk  and says "Please remove installation media and close the tray (if any) then press ENTER
[16:33] <nsudo> BluesKaj I am rebooting now its says unloading and loading alsa
[16:33] <UbuntuNoob> How can I fix this?
[16:33] <blast_hardcheese> UbuntuNoob: Don't put that DVD in the drive on boot
[16:34] <blast_hardcheese> problem solved
[16:34] <UbuntuNoob> Then where do I boot from?
[16:34] <blast_hardcheese> oh, good point.
[16:34] <UbuntuNoob> The only other option is to launch Windows 7
[16:34] <blast_hardcheese> oh dear, don't do that.
[16:35] <UbuntuNoob> Is booting from the LiveCD not how its installed?
[16:35] <OpenbsdVbox> !install | UbuntuNoob
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> peak, actually fedoras is debian based.  I have had problems my self with the way fedora 17's grub is set up and running with ubuntu, not sure I have any real answers for you.
[16:35] <OpenbsdVbox> wilee-nilee: fedora is red hat based
[16:36] <UbuntuNoob> Yes, I've read that, and I've followed the instructions, but it just ejects the disk and reboots...
[16:36] <peak> wilee-nilee: Ok !
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> ah that is right it is redhatI forgot openbsdnoob
[16:36] <nsudo> BluesKaj: no luck
[16:36] <bobweaver> hello there I am trying to play a older game that uses directX8.1   I have installed that(directx9) using wine tricks but I am still getting the same error. any ideas ?
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> OpenbsdVbox, that is a nick just like another thanks for your input. ;)
[16:36] <OpenbsdVbox> !appdb | bobweaver
[16:37] <peak> wilee-nilee: yup ! it based on REDHAT
[16:37] <BluesKaj> nsudo, if you are working on a remote pc , why are you rebooting this one ?
[16:38] <UbuntuNoob> Can Ubuntu be burned onto a DVD? Or must it be a CD?
[16:38] <nsudo> this is my pc there is no remote pc , i said if u can help me with this via remote connect
[16:38] <webfox> jrib, I changed the font to Terminus and font-size to 12x6. Just it.
[16:38] <nsudo> this is my pc there is no remote pc , i said if u can help me with this via remote connect @BluesKaj sorry
[16:38] <OpenbsdVbox> UbuntuNoob: either should work fine (a dvd might be a bit of a waste though)
[16:39] <develop7> Hello all
[16:39] <bobweaver> UbuntuNoob,  as of 12.10 it will not fit on cd anymore
[16:39] <UbuntuNoob> Well, it's not working, when I go to install alongside windows it opens a CLI, ejects the disk and restarts the computer and boots into Windows 7. Not what I want.
[16:39] <bobweaver> server will still though
[16:40] <bobweaver> UbuntuNoob,  how new is this computer ?
[16:40] <UbuntuNoob> I bought it 1 month ago, a HP Pavillion G6 with Windows 7
[16:40] <bobweaver> UbuntuNoob,  is it new enough to have windows secure boot ?
[16:40] <crizis> you can just put ubuntu on usb stick.. no need for dvd or cd
[16:40] <bobweaver> is that out yet ?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> nsudo, well i'm out of ideas , but try to configure your phonon and pavucontrol again
[16:41] <MrELusiveone> how well does the usb ver of ubuntu installer work?
[16:41] <bobweaver> UbuntuNoob,  did you check the MD5Sum ?
[16:41] <peak> can´t see ubuntu option in fedora grub loader .I install fedora 17 on ubuntu and after installation i can switch to ubuntu .Please help me out .I want to use both linux
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> peak, Have you tried the #fedora channel as well, they are a bit snarky there but it may help.
[16:42] <webfox> jrib, I think it has something to do with grub vga=XXX
[16:42] <UbuntuNoob> bobweaver I don't think it has secure boot
[16:42] <bobweaver> peak,  re-install grub to Ubuntu then scan again
[16:42] <UbuntuNoob> bobweaver whats MD5Sum?
[16:42] <bobweaver> peak,  from a live cd
[16:42] <MrELusiveone> how well does the usb ver of ubuntu installer work?
[16:42] <bobweaver> !md5sum | UbuntuNoob
[16:42] <nsudo> BluesKaj Thanks for all those ideas! does anyone know how to configure the sound
[16:43] <peak> bobweaver: UBUNTU live CD or fidora LIVE CD
[16:43] <bobweaver> peak,  Ubuntu
[16:43] <bobweaver> well whatever just re-install grub to your Ubuntu partition
[16:43] <bobweaver> peak,  ^&^
[16:43] <BluesKaj> nsudo, you may have a broken soundcard
[16:43] <nsudo> does anyone know how to configure the sound! pls intel hda does not fix in 12.04
[16:43] <UbuntuNoob> I'll check it now bobweaver
[16:44] <nsudo> BluesKaj: Its onboard
[16:44] <BluesKaj> nsudo, , but good luck
[16:44] <peak> bobweaver: Hope it works
[16:44] <bobweaver> nsudo,  open terminal enter in   "aplay -l "    PASTEBIN that for us to see
[16:44] <bobweaver> peak there is tutorial about that ... too late
[16:45] <nsudo> bobweaver: k
[16:45] <UbuntuNoob> bobweaver the sum is e235b63c02644e219b7bf3668f479c9e
[16:45] <sdia> hello everybody !
[16:45] <bobweaver> UbuntuNoob,  then check it :)
[16:46] <UbuntuNoob> How?
[16:46] <nsudo> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/Qpa1h7PF
[16:46] <nsudo> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/Qpa1h7PF
[16:46] <sdia> while moving my .thunderbird  from win to ubuntu i have some freqent freeze.
[16:46] <sdia> does anyone face the same problem here ?
[16:47] <bobweaver> nsudo,  that is not good haow about a   "lspci -vnn "
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> bobweaver, It appears that with Fedora 17 which I have had problems with in tandom with ubuntu and I know grub quite well, needs a mounted of the other when updating grub.  http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=279221
[16:47] <killer_> how do i change lightdm with mdm(mate display manager).....i have installed mdm but dun know how to use it instead of lightdm
[16:47] <UbuntuNoob> bobweaver how to check the sum?
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> bobweaver, Just passing it on if peak comes back
[16:48] <UbuntuNoob> bobweaver its correct, now what? It still ejects the DVD when I go to install alongside windows 7
[16:49] <nsudo> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/Ni7JYeHp lspci -vnn
[16:49] <bobweaver> wilee-nilee,  Thanks yeah I had the same trouble like 2  months ago, once secure boot happenes it is going  to be even better for newer people to *nix
[16:50] <nsudo> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/Ni7JYeHp
[16:53] <bobweaver> nsudo,  apt-cache policy libpulse[0..9]  && apt-cache search indicator-sound   << pastebin please
[16:54] <bobweaver> nsudo,  sorry typo
[16:54] <bobweaver> nsudo,  apt-cache policy libpulse[0..9]  && apt-cache policy indicator-sound   << pastebin please
[16:54] <nsudo> bobweaver: ok
[16:55] <nsudo> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/FxPG3mWd
[16:56] <bobweaver> !bug 126157 | nsudo
[16:56] <bobweaver> that looks old but that is your card
[16:57] <bobweaver> nsudo,  what kernel are you useing ?   (uname -r)
[16:57] <nsudo> bobweaver: 3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[16:58] <bobweaver> huh
[16:58] <akis> any idea on how can i run an application on gnome through terminal but permenently just clicking its icon, like its possible under xubuntu where from main menu with a right click on the icon i can take the option 'run in terminal'. how can i do the same under gnome?
[16:58] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: why haven't you updated at all?
[16:59] <bobweaver> nsudo,  is alsa-base or alsa-utils installed ?
[17:00] <nsudo> alsa base
[17:00] <tech936> looking for Ubuntu admins anyone Want to join a Network team msg me
[17:00] <nsudo> bobweaver alsa-base OpenbsdVbox: recon update?
[17:01] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: you are using the kernel that shipped with 12.04 release, why aren't you using the latest one from the repos?
[17:01] <WanMin> hi
[17:01] <OpenbsdVbox> !info linux-generic | nsudo
[17:03] <bobweaver> !info alacarte
[17:03] <bobweaver> dude that was asking about menu scripts ^^
[17:05] <nsudo> i am doing it now \
[17:05] <bobweaver> weer my scroll will not work in my irc client
[17:09] <tyhgvg> well there is a bubuntu os and it cannot read ebooks. what to do?
[17:13] <scatterp> Hi can some one help me install this i think i am missing a repository https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/bitlbee-skype/0.8.4-0ubuntu1
[17:14] <bobweaver> scatterp,  can you please open your terminal and enter in "apt-cache policy skype"   then Pastebin that
[17:15] <scatterp> yes one sec
[17:16] <bobweaver> scatterp,  it has to be bitlbee-skype  or can it just be skype ?
[17:17] <scatterp> Bitlbee-skype
[17:19] <OerHeks> ah i found the bugreport for unity-amazon lens > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-shopping/+bug/1054776
[17:19] <scatterp> Paste.ubuntu.com/1222921
[17:19] <roasted> hi
[17:19] <bobweaver> thanks scatterp
[17:19] <bark> OerHeks: and another: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-shopping/+bug/1054282
[17:20] <bobweaver> scatterp,  32 bit or 64 ?
[17:20] <OerHeks> thanks bark
[17:20] <scatterp> 32
[17:22] <bobweaver> scatterp,  I would try the 2 debian packages on this page  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bitlbee-skype/0.8.4-0ubuntu1/+build/2100238
[17:22] <scatterp> Ok but how ?
[17:22] <tyhgvg> well there is a bubuntu os and it cannot read ebooks. what to do?
[17:22] <OpenbsdVbox> tyhgvg: what is bubuntu?
[17:23] <bobweaver> scatterp,  click on the .deb files to download then open with software center
[17:23] <bobweaver> scatterp,  then install
[17:23] <scatterp> Ok testing
[17:23] <tyhgvg> the distro we're discussion in that one channel
[17:24] <OpenbsdVbox> tyhgvg: this is the ubuntu channel, what is bubuntu?
[17:25] <tyhgvg> bubuntu, smubuntu I don't care. but it cannot read ebooks
[17:25] <Wizrd> Why build a new distro just for reading ebooks?
[17:26] <miraj> tyhgvg , that has more to do with needing a specific app than a problem with the os
[17:26] <llutz> and how is that ubuntu-related?
[17:26] <tyhgvg> even android can!
[17:26] <scatterp-> bobweaver, i tried the package skyped and it came up with an error can not install python:i386
[17:26] <DeltaHeavy> My Chrome tabs aren't moving between window instances under Unity. Anybody know how to fix this?
[17:27] <llutz> !ot | tyhgvg
[17:27] <tyhgvg> you heard my support question. what is the purpose of a desktop os without compartible bookreader apps?
[17:28] <DeltaHeavy> tyhgvh: For other various day-to-day tasks~
[17:28] <llutz> !info fbreader |tyhgvg: stop the misspelling of ubuntu if you want help
[17:29] <tenX> tyhgvg: cant think of anything else but ebooks on a desktop, really
[17:30] <DeltaHeavy> "THIS OPERATING SYSTEM DOES NOT SUPPORT ONE SINGLE FORMAT FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. I DEEM THIS OPERATING SYSTEM NOT DESKTOP WORTHY"
[17:31] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: is that the case
[17:31] <DeltaHeavy> tenX: It would seem that's what tyhgvg is arguing
[17:31] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: ah.
[17:32] <tyhgvg> llutz: lolwhut? it is fbreader 0.12 there
[17:32] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: more like "its not working. damn"
[17:33] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: gotta complain somewhere
[17:33] <DeltaHeavy> When I'm angry at something not working at least I'd like to think my complaints are more credible :p
[17:33] <ninux> hi everybody! can someone tell me, where the content of an webdirection lays? i have the content on the graphical in nautilus and konqueror but i want to handle them in the terminal. any ideas?
[17:33] <hatman> Can't format because USB drive is busy... what to do?
[17:33] <jrib> ninux: "webdirection" means?
[17:34] <miraj> hatman, something is cd'd to it, probably
[17:34] <hatman> miraj: so do I have to unmount it to format?
[17:34] <miraj> hatman, yes
[17:34] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: that requires some effort being put in the issue
[17:34] <hatman> what was the cmd for that?
[17:34] <miraj> hatman , umount /mntpoint
[17:35] <ninux> jrib: i have some files on my university page and i can open them in the browser or "open as webdirection"
[17:35] <CellTech> Does the u1 program let you upload 1 single file? I don't want/need an entire folder backed up
[17:35] <DeltaHeavy> tenX: Eh, bitching about Unity ain't to hard in the couple days I've used it :p. Friggen nice just slow T_T
[17:35] <hatman> miraj: so lets say my drive is called /dev/sdb how do I instantly unmount it from terminal?
[17:35] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: but actually i like the idea to just quit right ahead
[17:36] <miraj> hatman , what is it's moint point? a "df" command should tell you
[17:36] <ninux> jrib: for nautilus i have to hit in "davs://" and for konqueror "webdavs://" at the begin of the adress
[17:36] <hatman> miraj: /dev/sdb1
[17:36] <truexfan81> hatman: sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[17:37] <hatman> thanks truexfan81
[17:37] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: never really been using it. i see the problem not in unity itself but breaking up with what everybody has been used to as default
[17:37] <miraj> hatman , the mount point is listed under "df" as "Mounted on"
[17:38] <DeltaHeavy> tenX: You mean GNOME2?
[17:38] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: people that can deal with it can change but beginners cant
[17:38] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: yeah probably ;)
[17:38] <deadmund> If I create a new .desktop file in ~/.local/share/application what do I need to do to get XFCE to show it in the application menu?
[17:38] <webfox> Could someone tell me a application for converting a music cd to mp3 please?
[17:38] <miraj> lame
[17:38] <DeltaHeavy> tenX: Yeah but GNOME 2 is obsolete now, and replaced with the pile of crap known as GNOME 3.
[17:38] <tenX> webfox: rip
[17:38] <deadmund> webfox: sound-juicer
[17:38] <pth> deadmund: As far as I know drag it into the launcher
[17:39] <webfox> thank you guys!
[17:39] <deadmund> pth: really... lemme try
[17:39] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: okay guess i shouldnt talk about something i have no idea about ;)
[17:39] <miraj> webfox, but ogg files sound better
[17:39] <webfox> miraj, better then mp3 ?
[17:39] <e4g> Just want to make sure I'm thinking correctly: If I want to dual boot Ubuntu and Fedora, on two separate drives, I just need to install Fedora on the second drive and then add it to grub in ubuntu correct?
[17:39] <tyhgvg> fbreader 0.12 is more than 2 years old, and is as usable as gedit to read webpages
[17:40] <deadmund> pth: That isn't working...
[17:40] <miraj> webfox, more people think they sound better than mp3
[17:40] <tyhgvg> is there a normal software?
[17:40] <jrib> ninux: try ~/.gvfs/
[17:40] <tenX> tyhgvg: normal like what?
[17:40] <hatman> miraj: ok, I'm not so good with formatting... I have a super modern Sony dvdplayer and want to see some movie from this usb-drive I just unmounted, I have the choice to unmount it as the following: Master Boot Record|GUID-partitiontable|Don't partition, keep Fat32|Apple Partition map              so which one do I need?
[17:40] <OpenbsdVbox> e4g: essentially yes
[17:40] <webfox> miraj, Mmm, good to know. I will test it. Thank you for the tip.
[17:40] <pth> deadmund: Do I understand you right, that you want an application to start when you press its icon in the launcher?
[17:40] <tyhgvg> normal like supporting formatted text and pictures
[17:41] <hatman> miraj: sorry I meant I have the choice to *format as following
[17:41] <tenX> tyhgvg: no there is no such thing.
[17:41] <miraj> hatman, what filesystem would you like it to be?
[17:41] <hatman> fat32
[17:42] <deadmund> pth: :P  I feel stupid.  I am running xfce but I have the LXDE Panel.  I'm trying to add a launcher to the LXDE panel.  It only allows you to add applications that show up in the menu.  This application (matlab) does not show up in the menu.  I wrote a .desktop file, but it is still not showing up in the menu
[17:42] <miraj> hatman, just a second
[17:42] <rocky> hello
[17:42] <rocky> hello
[17:42] <tenX> tyhgvg: you can either have text OR pictures, not both
[17:42] <pth> deadmund: Stand by.
[17:42] <tyhgvg> tenX: wut?
[17:43] <rocky> i have problem chrome browser problem in ubuntu 12.04. it automatically disappears now it is happening frequently, then i reopen to restore my tabs
[17:43] <deadmund> pth: I just got it.  In the desktop file I had OnlyShowIn=XFCE; set and so it wasn't showing in LXDE.  Removed that, it shows in the menu know.  Problem solved.
[17:43] <deadmund> pth: Thanks for trying though :)
[17:43] <rocky> i have problem chrome browser problem in ubuntu 12.04. it automatically disappears now it is happening frequently, then i reopen to restore my tabs, can someone help to fix this problem?
[17:43] <tenX> tyhgvg: deal with it.
[17:44] <pth> deadmund: Very good.
[17:44] <ninux> jrib: i can navigate to gvfs but i cannot ls anything even if i'm loged in as root its tellin me tha i do not have permission to do anything
[17:44] <tyhgvg> tenX: I won't deal with it, even mobile phones have better readers than fbr 0.12
[17:44] <pth> deadmund: The drag and drop is in Unity. Sorry I misunderstood your question.
[17:44] <miraj> hatman, here's the cmd I tend to use: mkfs.vfat -F32 -n "somelabel" /dev/sdb?
[17:45] <obi> tenX: Stop feeding the troll :p
[17:45] <jrib> ninux: what does "cannot ls anything" mean?
[17:45] <hatman> thank you miraj
[17:45] <deadmund> pth: Yeah, this had nothing to do with unity.  :P
[17:45] <deadmund> pth: Thanks! :)
[17:45] <llutz> tyhgvg: go find another ebook-reader-soft or blame the fbreader-devs who dropped support for nearly all OS except android
[17:45] <tenX> obi: it just happenend :(
[17:46] <rocky> i have problem chrome browser problem in ubuntu 12.04. it automatically disappears now it is happening frequently, then i reopen to restore my tabs, can someone help to fix this problem?
[17:46] <obi> tenX: Lol, I know. They get hungry :)
[17:46] <ninux> if i hit "ls" the output is "not possible: no permission"
[17:46] <pth> rocky: Can you be more specific?
[17:46] <OpenbsdVbox> !info calibre | tyhgvg
[17:46] <rocky> pth, when chrome crashes it does give any error message
[17:47] <Sander__> hello there, can anyone help ne with ndiswrapper on 12.04?
[17:47] <pth> rocky: You mean it just dissapears?
[17:47] <jrib> ninux: ls -ld ~/.gvfs/
[17:47] <tenX> obi: nothing to do, no other right to exist
[17:47] <rocky> pth, i meant disappears
[17:47] <BlackWool> greets to all.
[17:48] <SynrG> in prep to install ubuntu, in win7 using Disk Management, the fool thing refuses to shrink the ~280G partition to anything less than about half the original size, even immediately after defragging (the partition has 254.5G free, which is most of the drive, so I had hoped for far more)
[17:48] <aniasis> Hello
[17:48] <Sander__> hi
[17:48] <aniasis> I am on my VPN using vpnc but I am ping internal IPs with no response
[17:48] <aniasis> anyone experience this before?
[17:49] <tyhgvg> calibre is 114 megabytes: does it work for sure?
[17:49] <Sander__> im new to linux i need my question answered aswell :P
[17:49] <SynrG> any clues as to how to get win7 to reduce the volume size further?
[17:49] <compdoc> vpnc?
[17:49] <hatman> miraj: Ah, screw it, it is way too difficult for me, I don't understand a thing. I used the partitioningtool from the softwarecentrum. Thanks all for the help. Bye
[17:49] <ClientAlive> I don't understand something part of a manual I'm reading. My question is whether the word they're using is to be replaced when you write the actual line of scrip or if the word 'IS' the thing to use. Can someone with more experienfce take a peek at this and help me understand?
[17:49] <jrib> ClientAlive: ask the actual question...
[17:49] <llutz> calibre is not an ebook-reader more a nice tool to manage/convert them, though it has an ebook-viewer built-in
[17:50] <miraj> sorry hatman, I was trying to keep it simply
[17:50] <rocky> pth, does this info helps?
[17:50] <truexfan81> miraj: gparted is simple :)
[17:51] <pth> rocky: There is a lot about chrome crashes out there, maybe you could try a search trying to be as specific as possible.
[17:51] <NastyNaz> when I transfer things over SFTP the rate seems to be capped at around 150 KB/s, anyone know why this could be?
[17:51] <ClientAlive> The manual part is here: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/download/releases/stable/unison-manual.html#merge   they are using the word: current1, current2, currentarchopt, and so on (in the bulleted list). Can soomeone look at this and tell me are those words the actual thing to write in my script or are they like variable and I have to replace them with something?
[17:51] <CPCookieMan> Check your scp config?
[17:51] <CPCookieMan> That or if your on wifi you could actually be maxxing it out
[17:51] <miraj> truexfan81 , but hatman didn't start out talking about partitioning, just formatting
[17:51] <truexfan81> true
[17:52] <truexfan81> but that program does formatting, may be simpler to use it
[17:52] <miraj> true
[17:52] <pth> ClientAlive: Stand by.
[17:52] <tenX> CPCookieMan: why wifi?
[17:52] <ClientAlive> k
[17:52] <rocky> pth, does this info helps?
[17:52] <jrib> ClientAlive: "Within this string, several special substrings are recognized; these will be substituted with appropriate values before invoking a sub-shell to execute the command."
[17:52] <ninux> jrib: the output of ls -ld ~/.gvfs/ is "drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Mai 23 01:35 /root/.gvfs/"
[17:52] <CPCookieMan> tenX: I was talking to nastynaz
[17:52] <jrib> ninux: why are you doing this as root/with sudo...?
[17:53] <aniasis> compdoc vpnc = vpn client
[17:53] <CPCookieMan> I figured his cap might be from wifi, if he's far away from the router or something
[17:53] <CPCookieMan> Could happen
[17:53] <BlackWool> i'm having an issue on macbookpro (ubuntu 12.x). keyboard backlighting resets on boot. any way to save the setting. total noob here.
[17:53] <NastyNaz> CPCookieMan: I've checked both scp and the server is on a 1gig line and im also on a 1gig line. FTP transfers at 90MB/s
[17:53] <tenX> CPCookieMan: ah okay but thats pretty constructed
[17:54] <ClientAlive> jrib: ok, I guess that went over my head when I read it. thx. But now, can you give an example of something you would replace it with (a concrete example)?
[17:54] <bekks> NastyNaz: Which is quite good. Whats the problem with that bandwidth?
[17:54] <CPCookieMan> NastyNaz, Ahh ok, then I have no idea :P
[17:54] <banyantree> Hi Guys =)
[17:54] <compdoc> aniasis, if the vpn is working, you should be able to ping any ip on that lan
[17:54] <NastyNaz> bekks: SFTP transfers ultra slow (125KB/s)
[17:54] <Sander__> can anyone tell me how to install ndiswrapper 1.58rc1 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:54] <CPCookieMan> Firewalls maybe?
[17:54] <CPCookieMan> Only other thing I can think
[17:54] <bekks> NastyNaz: Then ask the ISP(s) wether they slow down SFTP or not.
[17:55] <jrib> ClientAlive: sure, here's what I use: merge = Regex .* -> gvimdiff --nofork CURRENT1 CURRENT2
[17:55] <NastyNaz> bekks: it's on a cogent backbone connection, there's no filtering
[17:55] <ninux> jrib: where is the "sudo"?
[17:55] <jrib> ninux: I didn't say there was one
[17:55] <ClientAlive> jfib: Rereading that quote, I recall why I was confused: because it says "...will be..." replaced. So I thought that the program does the replacing.
[17:55] <bekks> NastyNaz: Did you ask them?
[17:55] <NastyNaz> bekks: yes
[17:55] <tyhgvg> ninux: it is a program which allows arbitrary strangers to be a root on your machine
[17:56] <banyantree> i have a fresh ubuntu 12.04 installation on my dell latitude e5500
[17:56] <jrib> ClientAlive: unison will replace the CURRENT1 placeholder with the name of the local file when it calls the command
[17:56] <banyantree> but it's not as smooth as windows 7
[17:56] <ClientAlive> ohh! ok, So unison is what does the replacing. I wonder where it get the content to replace it with. From the root = preference or something?
[17:56] <CPCookieMan> So here's my problem. One day I restart my MacBook (newest LTS) and now GRUB won't boot to ubuntu. I'll have to get my machine real quick. If someone thinks they can help, PM me. This chatrom is moving fast
[17:56] <banyantree> do i need to install some drivers?
[17:56] <ClientAlive> Yes!  :)
[17:57] <truexfan81> banyantree: can you be more specific? what do you mean by not as smooth?
[17:57] <ClientAlive> wherre does it get the content to replace current1 current2, etc... ?
[17:57] <compdoc> CPCookieMan, boot the ubuntu Live cd and access your files, or even fix grub
[17:57] <jrib> ninux: what I said was that you should be doing this as your regular user
[17:57] <ClientAlive> what are those variables connected to?
[17:57] <tenX> banyantree: you can also wait for windows 7 to slow down
[17:57] <tydynrain> CPCookieMan, downloading and burning Rescatux to a disc, then booting into it can fix your dilemma most likely.
[17:57] <jrib> ninux: which obviously wasn't the case since ~/.gvfs is pointing to /root/.gvfs in what you pasted here
[17:57] <truexfan81> tenX: thats true lol it will happen eventually
[17:58] <_Marcus> I think my AMD graphics drivers are broken, how do I uninstall them?
[17:58] <ClientAlive> maybe it says in the manual there and I missed it. Hang on, let me re-read
[17:58] <banyantree> truexfan81: sometimes its something like micro stutters
[17:58] <tydynrain> synaptic is the easiest manner Marcus
[17:58] <tenX> truexfan81: pretty reliable ;)
[17:58] <CPCookieMan> tydynrain: If only it was that simple. Remember, this is a MacBook, so booting to a CD is REALLY hard.
[17:58] <ninux> jrib: hehe sorry i just had a mental shortcircuit =)
[17:58] <truexfan81> tenX: yeah lol
[17:58] <_Marcus> tydynrain: What is that?
[17:59] <CPCookieMan> Plus my disk drive is actually broken
[17:59] <tydynrain> Synaptic is a package manager
[17:59] <BluesKaj> nsudo, make sure you have alsa-utils installed , I assumed you had it
[17:59] <CPCookieMan> I installed ubuntu using another macbook.
[17:59] <deadmund> _Marcus: what makes you think it's broken?
[17:59] <jrib> ClientAlive: when unison tries to merge file x.jpg on your laptop with file x.jpg on your desktop and there's a conflict, you end up with something like x.jpg.LOCAL and x.jpg.REMOTE (I made this up; I don't remember how exactly the files are named).  And then it passes "x.jpg.LOCAL" instead of "CURRENT1" to your command
[17:59] <tydynrain> available in the official repositories
[17:59] <ClientAlive> jrib: Oh, it does say in the manual - basically its saying (between the lines) that it's internal to the program.
[18:00] <banyantree> truexfan81: my graphic card: intel 4500mhd
[18:00] <tydynrain> you can most likely boot from a USB stick if the CD/DVD drive is not functional.
[18:00] <_Marcus> deadmund: I get an error when trying to use my second montior as anything that isn't just duplicating my first one. This happens in both AMD Catalyst Center and the Ubuntu settings too
[18:00] <bekks> _Marcus: Why do you think they are broken? And why dont you want to fix them, but uninstall them then?
[18:00] <CPCookieMan> So I choose the option to boot to ubuntu, and it stays on the typical purple screen for a minute...
[18:00] <deadmund> _Marcus: what driver are you using?  What is the error?
[18:01] <ClientAlive> right!  :)  ooh... this is exciting. Thank you jrib. Think I'm ready to try it.   :>
[18:01] <_Marcus> deadmund: When I checked how to uninstall the drivers online, every source said to use a command that I don't have. Some fglrx thing, and I have some folder called amdcccle.
[18:01] <bekks> _Marcus: Which error...?
[18:01] <_Marcus> deadmund: I have no idea what driver I am using. Let me get the error again, hold on.
[18:01] <truexfan81> banyantree: there are no drivers to install for intel graphics, the opensource drivers are installed with the os
[18:01] <deadmund> _Marcus: ok
[18:01] <deadmund> _Marcus: You can check the driver by running and reading the output of sudo lspci -k
[18:01] <jrib> ClientAlive: yeah unison is pretty nice; I wish I didn't have to do a funny screen dance to use without a gui though -_-
[18:01] <banyantree> okay =) thank you
[18:01] <deadmund> _Marcus: fglrx is the name of the proprietary closed source driver
[18:02] <_Marcus> deadmund: It says this: "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3200, 900), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1600, 1600)"
[18:02] <bekks> Well, that error is obvious on AMD.
[18:03] <bekks> You cant do what you are using, since the maximum virtual size is limited.
[18:03] <_Marcus> deadmund: I did that command, but how do I know if the driver is graphics? I have an AMD CPU as well as an AMD graphics card.
[18:03] <_Marcus> bekks: How do I fix that?
[18:03] <bekks> _Marcus: By bying another graphics card, like Nvidia, which has a max. virtual size of 8192².
[18:03] <deadmund> _Marcus: "how do you know if the driver is graphics?"  What does that mean?
[18:03] <Troy^> what themes can you use in unity?
[18:03] <deadmund> bekks: Are you sure?  Maybe he can try adding a modeline using xrandr and cvt
[18:03] <bekks> *buying even.
[18:04] <_Marcus> bekks: Hah, no! This one cost enough already. I had no problem using this on Windows, I see no reason it shouldn't work on Ubuntu.
[18:04] <bekks> deadmund: I am pretty sure, yes.
[18:04] <Sander__> does any1 have ndiswrapper on his ubuntu 12.04? or is it not even possible?
[18:04] <bekks> _Marcus: Because the driver does not support it.
[18:04] <obi> Troy: gtk3
[18:04] <bekks> _Marcus: If you like to use that feature, you have to use Windows.
[18:04] <bekks> _Marcus: Or you have to try the opensource AMD drivers.
[18:04] <Kingsy> what is a good undelete tool for ubuntu?
[18:04] <deadmund> bekks: whoa whoa whoa
[18:04] <ClientAlive> jrib: I'm just curious. In the comand that you use (the one you shared with me here), what does the --nofork option mean? Is that an option telling gvimdiff not to use a third file for the merge but only the two that need merged?
[18:05] <bekks> Kingsy: "backup".
[18:05] <Kingsy> basically just looking to recover some files on a formatted drive
[18:05] <OpenbsdVbox> !undelete | Kingsy
[18:05] <deadmund> _Marcus: there is something we can try.  What model card do you have?  Please pastebin the output of sudo lspci -k   so I can read it:  paste.ubuntu.com
[18:05] <OpenbsdVbox> Kingsy: but nothing can beat a backup
[18:05] <Kingsy> hehe yeah
[18:05] <Jordan_U> Kingsy: "formatted" how?
[18:05] <Kingsy> OpenbsdVbox: do any of those have a GUI ?
[18:05] <jrib> ClientAlive: nah, by default gvim will fork into the background and free up the terminal.  I don't want it to do that
[18:05] <_Marcus> deadmund: Okay. I refuse to go back to an operating system that uses up almost 2 GB of memory on just normal startup (which would be Windows)
[18:06] <OpenbsdVbox> Kingsy: no idea, i've never used them
[18:06] <Sander__> Does anyone have NIDSwrapper on his Ubuntu 12.04 or is it not possible anymore, I can't seem to get mine working.
[18:06] <CPCookieMan> Why would I be hanging at the purple screen on bootup?
[18:06] <Kingsy> Jordan_U: not sure at this point, it was done a MAC.. just seeing if I can recover any files for a friend
[18:06] <bekks> _Marcus: Then your only chance is to try the opensource drivers IF they do support your graphics card.
[18:06] <deadmund> _Marcus: well Id on't think you fully understand why it does that but Windows is lousy for other reasons.  Answer my questions and make that pastebin
[18:06] <deadmund> bekks: wrong
[18:06] <BlackWool> how do i set default keyboard backlight level? Seems like it resets after shutdown -on MacBookPro Ubuntu 12.04. Anyone?
[18:06] <deadmund> bekks: He can try to set a new modeline in xrandr
[18:06] <bekks> deadmund: That wont make the virtual size magically larger.
[18:07] <tyhgvg> what else should 2GB ram be used?
[18:07] <bekks> Why should RAM not be used?
[18:07] <deadmund> bekks: the virtual size maybe be incorrectly probed
[18:07] <bekks> deadmund: point taken.
[18:07] <Kingsy> there must be a generic undelete application somewhere that attempts to recover lost files. I am sure I have used one, but I cant remember what it was
[18:07] <_Marcus> deadmund: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223017/ It seems a bit confusing in that paste, because I have both an AMD CPU and GPU.
[18:07] <deadmund> Sander__: I've gotten it working.  What wifi card do you have?
[18:07] <bekks> Kingsy: No. There is no generic undelete application.
[18:07] <ccallahan> I am having issues running the AMD video drivers on a FireGL V5250. I installed the drivers per http://askubuntu.com/questions/162831/ubuntu-12-04-radeon-hd-6670-help and in lspci it's clearly shown (http://sprunge.us/NGIe).
[18:07] <ccallahan> Any thoughts?
[18:08] <CPCookieMan> EXT4-FS: Failed loading journal
[18:08] <CPCookieMan> WTF?
[18:08] <ClientAlive> jrib: oh, ok. thx man.
[18:08] <truexfan81> ouch
[18:08] <deadmund> _Marcus: the graphics card is on line 66
[18:08] <CPCookieMan> There's a lot of other ATA errors in there
[18:08] <_Marcus> deadmund: Okay. So how do I solve this?
[18:08] <CPCookieMan> And then it drops to initramfs prompt
[18:08] <deadmund> _Marcus: hang on... reading
[18:09] <CPCookieMan> Is it trashed?
[18:09] <bampersand> Hey guys, I've got thousands of ebooks and I'm sure there'll be many duplicates, what tool should I be using to detect dupes? (the problem is though that some may be the same document, just scanned differently - meaning the dupe may not identify them?)
[18:09] <Kingsy> looks like its been formatted to FAT32
[18:10] <deadmund> _Marcus: what resolution are you trying to achieve?  http://www.amd.com/us/products/notebook/graphics/ati-mobility-hd-5700/Pages/hd-5750-specs.aspx
[18:10] <CPCookieMan> Kingsy: What?
[18:10] <Kingsy> CPCookieMan: the drive I am trying to recover is Fat32
[18:10] <deadmund> _Marcus: Cause this web page says the card only supports 2560 x 1600
[18:10] <CPCookieMan> Oh, you should be able to recover files then
[18:10] <ninux> lynx webdavs://elearning.hslu.ch/ilias/webdav.php/hslu/ref_1807128/
[18:10]  * tyhgvg wonders what bampersand is using to read them
[18:10] <Kingsy> CPCookieMan: yeah, it would be nice to use an application that has a GUI tho
[18:11] <deadmund> _Marcus: FYI, there are two drivers you can use. The open source one called 'radon' and the closed source one called 'fglrx' right now you're using fglrx
[18:11] <truexfan81> CPCookieMan: if you boot to a cd or usb can you access the drive? if yes, i suggest backing up whatever you can from it
[18:11] <llutz> tyhgvg: no pc/laptop i guess
[18:11] <ClientAlive> jrib: but diff3 is what I'll be using (along with backupcurrr, backupdir, and backuploc with unison). diff3 uses 3 files to do it's thing. So is the order to write those variable in my script like this?  [Code]merge = Name /* diff3 CURRENT1 CURRENT2 CURRENTARCH[/Code] ? Or does "CURRENTARCH" need to come first in sequence?
[18:11] <CPCookieMan> ata1.00: Failed command: READ DMA EXT
[18:12] <CPCookieMan> Media error
[18:12] <_Marcus> deadmund: I'm nowhere near that maximum. I am trying to use 1600 x 900
[18:12] <CPCookieMan> Anyone care to help here?
[18:12] <deadmund> _Marcus: 1600 x 900 on two monitors? so 3200 x 1800 ??
[18:12] <CPCookieMan> If possible I'd like to get it back running without a CD
[18:12] <_Marcus> deadmund: Uh, I guess.
[18:13] <deadmund> _Marcus: That's the problem.
[18:13] <tenX> CPCookieMan: hw errors. try dd_rescue
[18:13] <_Marcus> deadmund: So is this a problem with xorg? Because like I said, it works on Windows.
[18:13] <deadmund> _Marcus: the card won't do it (regardless of driver).  I think bekks was right about needed a different card
[18:13] <tenX> CPCookieMan: and i'd use a cd
[18:13] <deadmund> _Marcus: Well, we can try to set a lower resolution over two monitors
[18:13] <deadmund> _Marcus: But it will make everything larger.  Do you understand?
[18:13] <CPCookieMan> tenX: Not really an option, this laptop has a broken DVD drive and won't boot from the external ones
[18:14] <_Marcus> deadmund: What kind of card would give you three DVI ports, 1 VGA port, and an HDMI port, and expect you to not use 2 monitors?
[18:14] <deadmund> _Marcus: alright let's try here...  I've never done 2 monitors but I can do large resolutions no problem
[18:15] <_Marcus> deadmund: This doesn't seem to make sense. Why is this only happening when I use Gnome Desktop?
[18:15] <deadmund> _Marcus: Can you show me the output of xrandr
[18:15] <_Marcus> deadmund: How do I do that?
[18:15] <Troy^> arg unity is frustrating trying to use it over xfce
[18:15] <deadmund> _Marcus: run xrandr  , use paste.ubuntu.com
[18:16] <_Marcus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223041/
[18:16] <ClientAlive> I'll just try the variations till it works  :)
[18:16] <deadmund> _Marcus: right now you have a clone running?
[18:17] <killer> is there a download manager that has feattures comparable to idm?
[18:17] <_Marcus> deadmund: Yes.
[18:18] <deadmund> _Marcus: try setting a lower resolution then turning on two monitors
[18:18] <_Marcus> deadmund: That does work, I have tried that.
[18:18] <eheirwer> hello, does anybody know what "rigger-heads" means in this sentence: He held on through the level stretch of woods for several miles, crossed a wide flat of rigger-heads, and dropped down a bank to the frozen bed of a small stream.
[18:18] <ccallahan> (Ubuntu 12.04) I am having issues running the AMD video drivers on a FireGL V5250. I installed the drivers per http://askubuntu.com/questions/162831/ubuntu-12-04-radeon-hd-6670-help and in lspci it's clearly shown that Linux detects the card. (http://sprunge.us/NGIe). Any ideas why Catalyst won't detect them?
[18:18] <deadmund> _Marcus: ...
[18:18] <jrib> eheirwer: ##english, not here
[18:19] <deadmund> _Marcus: that's the solution
[18:19] <OpenbsdVbox> !ot | eheirwer
[18:19] <_Marcus> deadmund: Actually, no. I can't do 1900 x 600 and 800 x 600
[18:19] <eheirwer> ccallahan, just use the opensource drivers. Those are much better
[18:19] <ccallahan> Linky?
[18:19] <JeanS> how can i clear the command history used in a bash?
[18:19] <deadmund> _Marcus: I think the best resolution you can get is 1280x800
[18:19] <Kingsy> isnt there any data recovery tools that have a GUI?
[18:19] <_Marcus> deadmund: But why?
[18:20] <deadmund> _Marcus: Because your card has a limit of 2560x1600.  So if you want two monitors you can put 1/2 of 2560 on each monitor
[18:20] <_Marcus> deadmund: I know you showed me that page, and it said it could be only so big, but I don't believe that inside Windows 7 is some wizard who makes AMD cards work with two 1900 x 600 monitors magically.
[18:20] <deadmund> _Marcus: that's 1280
[18:21] <deadmund> _Marcus: I think windows is automatically changing your resolution down to 1280
[18:21] <llutz> JeanS: "history -c"  "help history" for more info
[18:21] <_Marcus> deadmund: It doesn't look like it.
[18:21] <deadmund> _Marcus: Well maybe you can check.  Also, that wizard is typically referred to as the windows proprietary driver which often does magic.
[18:21] <ccallahan> JeanS: rm -Rrf ~/.bash_history
[18:22] <deadmund> _Marcus: Maybe you can check the actual resolution instead of eye-balling it.
[18:22] <_Marcus> deadmund: Then isn't it xorg's fault?
[18:23] <deadmund> _Marcus: I guess? I mean, the card lists a max resolution on that website and you're explicitly asking to break that limit.  I would blame amd / radeon for showing a max resolution that is actually a lie and better resolutions can be achieved on different OS's
[18:24] <deadmund> _Marcus: But, to be clear.  I think that you're mistaken and on windows the resolution is changed when you selected 2 monitors
[18:24] <ezioa> i'm just trying to get a simple test of grep working here ... ls | grep '.\{6\}' ... i was hoping that this would print files of only 6 characters in length but it only prints them all
[18:24] <Sander__> deadmund its not my wifi that is the problem, its the installing of NDISwrapper itself :P
[18:24] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox I have updated my Kernel still the device is not listed sound
[18:25] <_Marcus> deadmund: Would that mean Ubuntu is changing it as well? Because it the resolution looks the same on both operating systems.
[18:25] <Sander__> and my usb networkcard is on the "working"list
[18:25] <deadmund> Sander__: Sounds like the same issue to me.  I ask because it's often much easier to use drivers besides ndiswrapper.  Also, I'm not 100% sure your card is supported by ndiswrapper.
[18:26] <deadmund> _Marcus: I mean.  I think that the resolution is being changed on windows when you turn on 2 monitors.  My understanding is you haven't been able to turn on two monitors in Ubuntu.  And no, I don't think it's changing the resolution at any point without notifying you (windows might be doing so when you turn on the 2nd monitor)
[18:26] <_Marcus> deadmund: Do you think any difference could be made if I switched to the open source driver instead of fglrx?
[18:26] <Sander__> deadmund:  802.11g WPA2 PSK
[18:26] <deadmund> _Marcus: I think that the max resolution is 2560 and you can't break it regardless of what driver you use.
[18:26] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: i've never had an issue with sound, what are the specs of your machine?
[18:27] <deadmund> Sander__: That's not the wifi card.  That's your encryption scheme.  To see the chipset (the card) run sudo lspci -k -C Network
[18:27] <llutz> ezioa: ls | grep -o -w '\w\{6\}'
[18:27] <_Marcus> deadmund: I don't believe in limitations.
[18:27] <N03L> Hey people, what's the command for weechat to see everything within server?
[18:27] <deadmund> _Marcus: ur insane
[18:27] <_Marcus> deadmund: I could be
[18:27] <ilaiho> hi!
[18:27] <Sander__> deadmund oh ok its Sitecom 300n
[18:27] <smt> hi, i have problems with the speed of my (brand new) dvd drive, on a pure copy job it just gives me 5.4 MB/s reading speed, any ideas what i can do (its a sata drive in ahci mode, that should deliver 22x reading speed)
[18:27] <N03L> I think it was like irc.server*
[18:27] <N03L> Or something, right?
[18:28] <deadmund> Sander__: That's the ROUTER.  I wanna know the card in the computer.  Please runt he command
[18:28] <ilaiho> on 12.04, avahi wrongly claims that i am using .local domain while it is actually .internal
[18:28] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox Is thr any command to look
[18:28] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: lspci
[18:29] <deadmund> Sander__: sorry, I made a typo.  The command is sudo lspci -k  you can put it here for me to look at: paste.ubuntu.com
[18:29] <TheLordOfTime> Sander__, do lspci and pastebin the output
[18:29] <N03L> Oh wait, was it /set irc.server* ?
[18:29] <TheLordOfTime> or what deadmund said
[18:29] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox http://pastebin.com/uxkaJ0rb
[18:29] <TheLordOfTime> N03L, irssi?
[18:30] <lwizardl> in 10.04 64bit I am having problems with toem playing video formats. I already have the restrictedextras installed. any ideas ?
[18:30] <saber_> jep
[18:30] <atari314> Hello, does anyone know if is it possible to launch the network control applet from Unity on other WMs, like fluxbox/openbox? If positive, does anyone know which bin is it?
[18:31] <_Marcus> deadmund: I don't care what AMD says. I'm going to make this work one way or another. I know someone who had a card about the same as mine and had two monitors that were larger in resolution.
[18:31] <N03L> TheLordOfTime: weechat
[18:31] <_Marcus> deadmund: But thank you for your help :)
[18:31] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: lspci
[18:31] <TheLordOfTime> N03L, did you ask in weechat support?
[18:31] <deadmund> _Marcus: Good luck!
[18:31] <_Marcus> Thanks
[18:31] <ElixirVitae> Hello!
[18:32] <ElixirVitae> Does changing ownership of partitions through chown make it constant
[18:32] <obi> deadmund: "Good luck" won't even beat the impossible :p
[18:32] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox http://pastebin.com/1NNpqnbF
[18:32] <ElixirVitae> or do I need to do it everytime I boot
[18:32] <N03L> TheLordOfTime: Hahaha, that's a good idea.
[18:32] <atari314> Nvm, it's nm-applet
[18:32] <deadmund> obi: Your telling me! :)
[18:33] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: and: lsmod
[18:33] <obi> deadmund: it's like saying you are gonna fly your plane that's hardware is a that of a boat, lol
[18:33] <Katronix> Hi all, can anyone lend me hand in figuring out why my apache subdomains aren't work? Code snippet here: http://pastebin.com/VX0yLYHu
[18:34] <Sander__> i cannot paste it there becouse this chat is on my windows laptop
[18:34] <deadmund> obi: I know!  I didn't realize when I started helping him that he was insane :P
[18:34] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox http://pastebin.com/nnbdYDpD
[18:34] <deadmund> Sander__: Does the target machine not have an internet connection?
[18:34] <obi> deadmund: At least you tried! :)
[18:34] <deadmund> obi: yeah
[18:34] <Sander__> deadmund no
[18:34] <ccallahan> (Ubuntu 12.04) I am having issues running the AMD video drivers on a FireGL V5250. I installed the drivers per http://askubuntu.com/questions/162831/ubuntu-12-04-radeon-hd-6670-help and in lspci it's clearly shown that Linux detects the card. (http://sprunge.us/NGIe). Any ideas why amd won't detect it?
[18:35] <Sander__> deadmund thats why i need the NDISwrapper :)
[18:35] <deadmund> Sander__: Then you're gonna have to read the output on that machine and tell his.  Look for network controller or wlan controller or something simillar
[18:35] <deadmund> Sander__: Understandable :)
[18:35] <deadmund> tell us*
[18:36] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: sudo modprobe snd_hda_codec
[18:37] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox no output
[18:37] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: that means the module is now loaded
[18:38] <_cb> is it against the rules to hijack a nick?
[18:38] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: see if you can open your sound preferences thingy to select your output
[18:38] <Katronix> Hi all, can anyone lend me hand in figuring out why my apache subdomains aren't work? Code snippet here: http://pastebin.com/VX0yLYHu
[18:38] <_cb> Katronix: please use ubuntu paste
[18:39] <Sander__> deadmund i cannot find it, but i have the package of the usb network card, the model number is WL-352
[18:39] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox output device shows Dummy Output and no hardware output device
[18:40] <Sander__> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Sitecom_WL-352
[18:40] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: you did restart after the kernel update yes?
[18:40] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox yes
[18:40] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: then i'm out of ideas
[18:41] <Katronix> _cb ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223086/
[18:42] <praveen_> Hey Guys! I have a problem booting ubuntu in my Lenovo T430
[18:43] <Sander__> deadmund: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Sitecom_WL-352 this is my network card
[18:43] <praveen_> It just does't boot automatically. But it can boot with the help of installation media
[18:43] <praveen_> Can anybody help?
[18:43] <arooni-mobile> i have tried both: http://www.ryukent.com/2010/10/changing-chrome-magnet-link-association-in-ubuntu/ and http://myinterestingubuntu.blogspot.com/2012/01/change-magnet-links-association-in.html ... but im not able ot change my association for magnet links
[18:43] <_cb> is it against the rules to hijack a nick?
[18:44] <anti-freeze> _cb, im pretty sure its against law
[18:44] <_cb> anti-freeze: really?
[18:44] <llutz> _cb #freenode, this is ubuntu-support
[18:44] <_cb> lol sorry
[18:45] <anti-freeze> _cb, dont apologise to me, apologise to the person you hijacked
[18:45] <nsudo> can anyone help me with the sound card of mine
[18:46] <nsudo> really bugging me now!
[18:46] <deadmund> Sander__: because it's a USB device it doesn't show up in the output of sudo lspci -k
[18:46] <praveen_> llutz: I have a problem with ubuntu booting
[18:46] <arooni-mobile> i have tried both: http://www.ryukent.com/2010/10/changing-chrome-magnet-link-association-in-ubuntu/ and http://myinterestingubuntu.blogspot.com/2012/01/change-magnet-links-association-in.html ... but im not able ot change my association for magnet links
[18:47] <deadmund> Sander__: make sure you have the .inf and the .sys file (that make up the driver) put them in the same folder.  Then point ndisgtk to the .sys file (I think)
[18:47] <markovh> what's the actual installer package that ubuntu uses to install itself?
[18:47] <tyhgvg> ubiquity
[18:48] <markovh> tyhgvg: that was directed at me?
[18:49] <tyhgvg> y
[18:49] <OpenbsdVbox> !info ubiquity | markovh
[18:49] <markovh> tyhgvg: thanks
[18:49] <vessou> hi, i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and somehow, it lost mouse support, someone can help?
[18:50] <obi> vessou: what machine are you using?
[18:50] <chris__> hey guys
[18:50] <chris__> whenever i watch a youtube video
[18:50] <chris__> the colours are all inverted
[18:50] <bekks> !enter | chris__
[18:51] <chris__> okay understood!
[18:51] <obi> chris_: install flash :p
[18:51] <cielak> hello everyone! I have a trouble getting X to start correctly on a newly installed Ubuntu - can anyone give me a hand troubleshooting that?
[18:51] <bekks> chris__: Right click on that flash video, and disable the hardware acceleration in the flash settings.
[18:51] <nsudo> can anyone help me with the sound card of mine
[18:51] <praveen_> I am not able to boot ubuntu. Can anybody help?
[18:52] <cielak> or maybe can someone instead point me to where should I seek better assistance in that matter?
[18:52] <chris__> obi, thanks for the reply, already have :D
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> praveen_, This a fresh install, you have any history leading to this?
[18:52] <chris__> bekks, thanks for the reply, trying now
[18:52] <gunarm1> i was trying to fix my wifi drivers by following some instructions and ended up (i think on a development branch) of the kernel,  when I get to the login screen on a terminal it says "Ubuntu quantal (devleopment branch)"  everything is screwed up, my gdb background is different, the battery icon in my toolbar is too big to fit in its allotted space, and worst of all my desktop manager won't run anymore so none of my windows have boarders.
[18:52] <gunarm1> Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[18:52] <dandedilia> Hello
[18:52] <praveen_> wikee-nilee: This is a fresh 12.04 installation
[18:52] <bekks> gunarm1: Now, you have installed the next release of Ubuntu, 12.10 - to get back to 12.04, you have to reinstall your Ubuntu.
[18:53] <Evdb> Hi Guys
[18:53] <chris__> bekks, I can bring up the menu however i cant select any options, and now the window wont close :S
[18:53] <Evdb> I need urgent help
[18:53] <Evdb> I've been trying all day to install Ubuntu on my Mac
[18:53] <chris__> !enter Evdb
[18:53] <OpenbsdVbox> !mac | Evdb
[18:54] <gunarm1> bekks, did that happen because I added these "quantal" sources in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[18:54] <Evdb> yeah but I can't find ANY solution
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> praveen_, Is the HD it is on being read first in the bios, was this a auto install or did you use the something else option and know which mbr grub was put in, last was this a install from windows=wubi?
[18:54] <Evdb> but can someon ehelp me determining what to do?
[18:54] <Evdb> My bootbale USB gives me kernel panic
[18:54] <Evdb> not syncing
[18:54] <nsudo> cant find any solution for probing my onboard sound can anyone help
[18:54] <OpenbsdVbox> gunarm1: never mix releases
[18:54] <cielak> guys, anyone knowledgable about Xorg?
[18:54] <bekks> gunarm1: Yes.
[18:54] <praveen_> wilee-nilee: Its a fresh new installation on Lenovo T430. I installed using USB stick. Its not booting. It shows black screen with cursor blinking on top.
[18:55] <Sander__> deadmund: i dont know what to look for
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | praveen_
[18:55] <bekks> Evdb: Why dont you use a cdrom for installing Ubuntu?
[18:55] <vessou> obi, this one:  Aspire one D270-268bb
[18:55] <praveen_> wilee-nilee: The grub is the one that comes with 12.04 LTS
[18:55] <gunarm1> OpenbsdVbox, it was an accident, trying despeartly to update my wireless drivers
[18:56] <bekks> gunarm1: So which wireless chipset do you have very exactly?
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> praveen_, Check the nomodeset option, use the shift key to show the grub menu at powering on if this OS is the only install on the HD.
[18:56] <obi> praveen_ your mbr is probably set to boot from usb, instead of main hard drive. I actually went through this last week during a fresh install
[18:56] <vessou> obi, this one:  Aspire one D270-268bb
[18:56] <Evdb> Can someone please help me one sec in private chat or something. I need ubuntu for school
[18:56] <deadmund> Evdb: Just ask your question and anybody that knows will help
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> obi, Don't assume please.
[18:56] <deadmund> Sander__: can you be more specific?
[18:56] <OerHeks> nsudo, did you follow this howto ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[18:56] <vessou> Evdb, download edubuntu.
[18:56] <Evdb> I already did
[18:57] <vessou> obi, this one:  Aspire one D270-268bb
[18:57] <Sander__> deadmund: I don't know for what.inf and .sys file I have to look
[18:57] <Evdb> yeah but it's about an error
[18:57] <Evdb> not about hwich version
[18:57] <OerHeks> nsudo, and this one > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[18:57] <praveen_> Let me check that.
[18:57] <Evdb> my bootable usb give kernel panic on my macbook
[18:57] <obi> wilee-nilee: don't assume what? i will just not respond to whatever you are referring to then, no problem
[18:57] <bekks> Evdb: Why dont you use a cdrom for installing Ubuntu?
[18:57] <Sander__> [20:48] <deadmund> Sander__: make sure you have the .inf and the .sys file (that make up the driver) put them in the same folder.  Then point ndisgtk to the .sys file (I think)
[18:57] <Evdb> hat failed miserably
[18:57] <Evdb> I've waisted 3 DVDs
[18:57] <deadmund> Sander__: Those are the driver files.  ndiswrapper uses the windows driver in linux.  It is a wrapper (hence the name)  You need to find the windows driver for your USB wifi thingy and pull out the .inf and .sys file and get them on the target machine
[18:58] <Evdb> USB goes a litlle better than DVD
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> obi, A black screen with a blinking cursor would not happen under your scenario.
[18:58] <Evdb> but still Kernel panic
[18:58] <bekks> Evdb: I am not talking about the dvd version. :)
[18:58] <Evdb> you mean I should use a 700 mb cd?
[18:58] <gunarm1> bekks, atheros ar9485,  and it has this problem that people talk about in both ubuntu and windows where it drops connection every few minutes, for ubuntu it was suggested to install compat-wireless, but the link was out of date (the compat-wireless didn't support my newer kernel) but I thought it was the other way around and my kernel was too old so I tried to update the kernel (which I thought failed), then downloaded a newer compat wirele
[18:58] <gunarm1> ss, which worked (well i'm not convinced it was fixed), then an apt-get upgrade and two reboots later and my computer goes haywire
[18:58] <obi> wilee-nilee: it did
[18:58] <vessou> i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please?
[18:59] <Evdb> bekks: you mean I should try a normal CD?
[18:59] <obi> wilee-nilee: changed the mbr (which was set to sda2 (usb)) to sda (main hard drive). Have a nice day
[18:59] <Sander__> deadmund: i think i found them, net8192su.inf and rtl8192su.sys, they where in my cd>drivers>winxp
[18:59] <bekks> gunarm1: You didnt mention the fact that you either modified your sources.list to use quantal instead of precise OR you didnt mention the fact that you used do-release-upgrade to upgrade to quantal.
[18:59] <deadmund> Sander__: that's it
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> praveen_, I have top get to writing some papers for a universiy course, your problem sounds easily fixable, others will help.
[18:59] <vessou> i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please?
[18:59] <bekks> gunarm1: However: To get back to 12.04, you have to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04
[19:00] <Evdb> bekks: should I use a CD?
[19:00] <Sander__> deadmund: do i need the xp ones becouse i can also choose other versions
[19:00] <bekks> Evdb: For the CD version - sure.
[19:00] <OpenbsdVbox> obi: sda is the same device
[19:00] <gunarm1> bekks, true, adding quantal into sources.list is how some link said to update the kernel (which I thought failed)
[19:00] <gunarm1> but ok
[19:00] <Evdb> bekks: if i download the default it's not for DVD? only for CD?
[19:00] <vessou> i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:00] <bekks> gunarm1: That does LOT more than just updating the kernel.
[19:00] <bekks> Evdb: Which file did you download very exactly?
[19:00] <obi> OpenbsdVbox: oops, sdb
[19:01] <Sander__> deadmund: like 2000 win7x86 and x64 vista
[19:01] <gunarm1> bekks, just feeling around in the dark to make the wireless tolerable on my brand new 1000$ ultrabook, so I dont have to just use windows
[19:01] <ClientAlive> jrib: Are you still around? I'm getting there man. A different thing I had a problem with before was syncing a file that's owned by root (or maybe it was the perms on the file). I would get a permission denied error. I see a section in the manual that talks about permissions but it's talking about something different. Do you know how to deal with that issue? How to sync files owned by root or with certain perms on them?
[19:01] <Evdb> bekks: ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:01] <gunarm1> but ok Ill reinstall, wouldnt you know its the first time in a decade I havent put /home on its own partition ;(
[19:01] <Evdb> I burnt it to a dvd but that didn't work
[19:01] <Jellyg00se> Hello, using ubuntu 12.04, unity after changing to a console using ctrl+alt+f1 and back to ''+f7 the indicators on the top seem to have "lost" their.. background? they look inverted, I tried compiz --replace but no joy, any clues without rebooting? :)
[19:01] <vessou> pastebin! ClientAlive
[19:02] <bekks> Evdb: Then use a CD.
[19:02] <vessou> pastebin! ClientAlive
[19:02] <vessou> i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:02] <Evdb> bekks: that will really just work?
[19:02] <bekks> Evdb: For me, it did on every release since 7.x
[19:02] <zoktar> is there any file manager that has "gksudo" when trying to remove a file you dont have write permission to?.
[19:02] <Evdb> bekks: I'll try ;)
[19:03] <ClientAlive> vessou: I'm sorry that was a while back and I no longer have the profile that was causing it. I can try my question at a later date but I thought I'd just give it a shot now - to see if there was any useful tidbits that might help me.
[19:03] <OpenbsdVbox> zoktar: gksudo is a command
[19:03] <zoktar>  well, a default elevation prompt of sorts then
[19:03] <Muelli> zoktar: I don't know. I'd be surprised. There is usually a good reason for you not to remove the file then.
[19:04] <OpenbsdVbox> zoktar: what file are you trying to remove and why?
[19:04] <obi> vessou: Not sure if this is right for your machine, but for me adding "options psmouse proto=imps" in a line at /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf (or any other file in that directory) fixed mine
[19:04] <guntbert_> zoktar: what file? where?
[19:04] <zoktar> in my case its a remote directory that i have not found how to change mask to
[19:04] <praveen_> obi: how can i check mbr?
[19:04] <Sander__> deadmund: the two files are on my desktop, so what do I do now? I tried ndiswrapper -i driver.inf but then it says: the program 'ndiswrapper' is not installed
[19:05] <Muelli> zoktar: so you want to delete a remote file? Or change permission bits?
[19:05] <zoktar> a nfs4 share to be more precise
[19:05] <icat> hi all, a quick sound question: I swapped the hdd from one machine to another, hw should be identical and everything works, expect for the sound ... ubuntu finds no sound devices in the new box. how can i run reconfiguration?
[19:05] <obi> praveen_: sudo fdisk -l
[19:06] <zoktar> as a normal user i can delete files, but not directorys created
[19:06] <deadmund> Sander__: You need to install ndiswrapper which means you need an internet connection temporarily.  Also, use ndisgtk  (it's graphical)
[19:06] <Muelli> icat: that sounds odd. How do you know that ubuntu doesn't find "sound devices"?
[19:06] <deadmund> Sander__: I'm here, I'm working on something at the same time so feel free to ping me.
[19:07] <hvq> hi, is it possible to have a shortcut for a favorite command? For eg, type editvim instead of vim $HOME/.vimrc
[19:07] <kieppie> hi guys
[19:08] <hvq> type installapp instead of sudo apt-get etc,
[19:08] <praveen_> obi No partitions on HDD is marked as boot. However, the USB drive is marked boot.
[19:08] <Muelli> zoktar: well. maybe the server is configured such that you cannot delete directories.. Or it is broken. Are you sure that elevating your (local) priviledges will enable you to delete directories?
[19:08] <icat> Muelli, xfce4-mixer only shows a "dummy sound device"
[19:08] <kieppie> the power management on my 12.04 is fairly limited & sometimes doesn't even kick in (no idea why). are there any other desktop tools I can use to tweak the various settings?
[19:08] <llutz> hvq: http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php#alias
[19:08] <icat> alsamixer find nothing
[19:09] <Muelli> hvq: totally. Search for "bash alias".
[19:09] <escott> hvq, "alias editvim=vim $HOME/.vimrc"
[19:09] <icat> Muelli, sry, "Dummy output"
[19:09] <hvq> icat, Muelli, escott: thank you
[19:09] <obi> praveen_: sudo ms-sys -m /dev/sda
[19:10] <Muelli> icat: hm. what does "sudo aplay -l" say? and pastebin us dmesg and sudo lspci -vv
[19:10] <zoktar> Muelli, yeah, i can delete the directorys as root on my system. this is how directorys created by the remote system look for me, drwxr-xr-x
[19:10] <praveen_> obi How can I install ms-sys ?
[19:11] <Sander__> deadmund: I have the files on my desktop now but I don't know what to do with them :S
[19:11] <bekks> zoktar: Which directory do you want to delete?
[19:11] <zoktar> Muelli, those created by the remote system within the shared directory
[19:11] <Muelli> zoktar: in order to be able to delete something in a directory, you need write permissions on it. So if you wanted to delete a directory in a directory, you'd need write permissions in that first directory. Do you have that?
[19:11] <vessou> obi, i do it , but no results.
[19:12] <obi> preveen_: Not installed? Did you simply try sudo apt-get install ms-sys (guessing)
[19:12] <vessou> obi, i do it , but no results.
[19:12] <zoktar> Muelli, yes drwxrwxrwx
[19:12] <Muelli> uff
[19:12] <obi> vessou: sorry, I'm no help then :(
[19:12] <vessou> i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:13] <Muelli> well zoktar. It seems like a server issue to me anyway. So I would try to get some debug output from the server side.
[19:13] <Muelli> vessou: how do you know that you lost mouse support?
[19:13] <zoktar> guess ill go hunt down the nfs setting :/
[19:14] <praveen_> obi I tried that and its not working
[19:14] <praveen_> No packages found.
[19:14] <obi> praveen_: Hmmm, one minute
[19:14] <praveen_> obi sure
[19:15] <icat> Muelli, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223162/
[19:15] <vessou> llutz,i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:15] <obi> praveen_: http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/#Download
[19:15] <icat> Muelli, I'd like to avoid a reinstall if possible
[19:16] <kieppie> *ping*
[19:16] <kieppie> anyone able to help with power management please?
[19:16] <vessou> llutz,i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:16] <Muelli> hm icat. Weird indeed. Looks like you don't have any soundcard at all... O_o
[19:16] <Muelli> vessou: how do you know that you lost mouse support?
[19:16] <Muelli> !anyone | kieppie
[19:17] <OerHeks> icat check your bios, is there an option for sound card  ~ AC97 / ~  digital sound ? try AC97
[19:17] <kieppie> the power management on my 12.04 is fairly limited & sometimes doesn't even kick in (no idea why). are there any other desktop tools I can use to tweak the various settings?
[19:17] <vessou> Muelli, my mouse do not move. it stays at the desktop center.
[19:17] <vessou> Muelli, can u help?
[19:17] <bulu> try (hd 0,0) EXT
[19:17] <bulu> hw  to slove this
[19:18] <vessou> bulu, what?
[19:18] <Muelli> kieppie: hm. you can dig with gconf-editor or dconf-editor. There is a settings path somewhere to fiddle with more advanced settings. Maybe gnome-tweak-tool helps.
[19:18] <Muelli> vessou: hm. sounds weird. Can you pastebin us "xinput --list"?
[19:18] <kieppie> Muelli - have done, but just curious re additional tools specific to pm
[19:18] <schreber> what would be the easiest way to modify how the day, month, & year are displayed in the top bar? I've looked in time & date settings and it doesn't seem apparent to me that it can be changed there.
[19:19] <vessou> bulu, is it for me?
[19:19] <bulu> try (hd 0,0) EXT  how  to solve this issues
[19:19] <Muelli> kieppie: I don't know any. Ther e is the interface to Linux, various knobs in /proc/ but I wouldn't know them all. Google might.
[19:19] <vessou> Muelli, i cannot select, i'll try to paste it here directly.
[19:19] <Muelli> schreber: adjust your LC_TIME variable.
[19:19] <Muelli> vessou: better not
[19:20] <Muelli> vessou: use smth like "xinput --list | pastebinit"
[19:20] <vessou> how can i do ? Muelli
[19:21] <praveen_> obi Now, I get the following "Windows 2000/XP/2003 master boot record successfully written to /dev/sda"
[19:21] <ClientAlive> I don't understand if I'm putting the right things in the right file for what I'm trying to do. Working with unison and trying to have a separate file contains preferences like "batchmerge =" and "backupcurr = " and so on (preferences of that type). So do I put those preferences in the file named: "common" Then put a line [Code]include common[/Code] in the file: "default.prf" ??
[19:22] <guntbert_> ClientAlive: are you sure that this is the channel you wanted?
[19:22] <ClientAlive> Well I'm running ubuntu 12.04 and unison runs on ubuntu, so I hope so  ;)
[19:23] <obi> praveen_: reboot?
[19:23] <icat> OerHeks, will do, thx
[19:23] <icat> Muelli, thx
[19:23] <praveen_> obi Let me check
[19:23] <ClientAlive> jrib: ?  vessou: ?
[19:24] <guntbert_> ClientAlive: I was asking because I haven't got the slightest idea what you were talking about :)
[19:24] <ClientAlive> gunbert: np  :)
[19:24] <ElDelQuinto> hello all
[19:24] <ClientAlive> google: "unison file synchronizer" (if it interests you)  :)
[19:24] <vessou> Muelli, ok, see at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223183
[19:25] <vessou> Muelli, ok, see at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223183
[19:25] <ElDelQuinto> i have a question of Asus Trace Free technology, by default is 20%, is it better with 100%?
[19:25] <CRF_H0M3R> I'm having trouble with Empathy for the Messenger, anyone having it too?
[19:25] <guntbert_> ClientAlive: I suppose you have seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Unison already?
[19:25] <gamerzlod> hi @ll
[19:25] <demonoid_com> hello guys
[19:25] <demonoid_com> :)
[19:25] <Muelli> hm vessou. You don't have an input device. Holy crap. That's terrible. Have you, by any chance, pressed a hardware button of some sort? My tablet has a "disable touchpad" button...
[19:26] <Muelli> !anyone | CRF_H0M3R
[19:26] <demonoid_com> sombody can tell some good books for linux kernel?
[19:26] <ClientAlive> gunbert: No, I don't think I have. I'll take some time to peek at it. Thx
[19:26] <TJ-> demonoid_com: The kernel source!
[19:27] <demonoid_com> TJ-: this is a book :)?
[19:27] <CRF_H0M3R> Muelli: ?
[19:27] <demonoid_com> TJ-:or is the kernel source :DD
[19:27] <TJ-> demonoid_com: The point is... the kernel evolves so rapidly that any book on it is going out-of-date as soon as it is printed
[19:28] <guntbert_> !tab > ClientAlive
[19:29] <demonoid_com> TJ-:aaa ok :) but i'm beginner with the kernel :) i mean i need start from some books
[19:29] <demonoid_com> TJ-:or no?
[19:29] <ClientAlive> sorry guntbert_  I had heard of that feature but never learned how to use it. I just did use in right now tho and it's easy - thanks  :)
[19:29] <TJ-> demonoid_com: I'd highly recommend the kernel newbies web-site, forums,  and mailing-list. http://kernelnewbies.org/
[19:30] <praveen_> obi Its not working without USB stick. Without USB stick it asks to select a boot medium. With USB stick, it boots correctly.
[19:30] <cielak> guys, anyone knowledgable about Xorg? I need a hand troubleshooting it
[19:31] <guntbert_> ClientAlive: no need to be sorry, only: someone gets alerted that you are talking to them only when you use the nick
[19:31] <vessou> Muelli, i do not do it.
[19:31] <vessou> Muelli, ?
[19:31] <praveen_> obi Still the fdisk shows its not bootable.
[19:31] <demonoid_com> TJ-:10x :)
[19:31] <bekks> praveen_: That display is irrelevant since 15 years :)
[19:32] <vessou> Muelli, ?
[19:32] <Muelli> vessou: what?
[19:32] <obi> praveen_: sh*t, i guess i am at a loss. I will keep searching thinking. What does it show for available devices? This a fresh install?
[19:32] <praveen_> bekks What do you meant by that?
[19:32] <no_gravity> Hello Everybody! What do you use to play your music on ubuntu?
[19:32] <TJ-> demonoid_com: but also, just clone the git repository for the Linux kernel and dip in... maybe start in the Documentation/ directory for some explanations of key features, then skim-read-scan some source code to get a feel for the style we use in writing it
[19:32] <bekks> praveen_: That it doesnt matter wether there is a boot flag set or not nowadays.
[19:32] <OpenbsdVbox> !vlc | no_gravity
[19:32] <Muelli> vessou: so you don't have a button for disabling the touchpad?
[19:33] <goddard> how do i setup thundbird with ssl
[19:33] <Troy^> what is the quick shortcut to switch between workspaces?
[19:33] <goddard> it isn't working
[19:33] <praveen_> obi: It shows the available devices as cd drive, network boot and HDD. Yes, its a fresh install.
[19:33] <Muelli> cielak: hm. What's your issue?
[19:33] <Muelli> goddard: how do you know?
[19:33] <vessou> exactly, Muelli.
[19:33] <TJ-> praveen_: If a fresh install only boots when the USB stick is plugged in, that tells us that the GRUB boot-loader was installed to the wrong device. That is relatively easy to fix
[19:33] <goddard> Muelli: how do i know what? it isn't working ? because it says its the wrong password
[19:33] <praveen_> bekks Okay.
[19:33] <vessou> llutz,i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:33] <cielak> Muelli: it fails to start on a fresh install, it says 'Screens found, but none has a usable configuration'
[19:34] <Muelli> goddard: so maybe you provided a wrong password then ;-)
[19:34] <praveen_> TJ- How can I fix that?
[19:34] <shomon> goddard, look up the connection info from your email provider if there is any
[19:34] <Lator0066> susi111
[19:34] <Evdb> bekks: hey are you still here?
[19:34] <obi> praveen_: No, I mean when running sudo fdisk -l
[19:34] <ClientAlive> guntbert_ Right on. Well, I thought I had this unison thing right but stilll getting an error. I'll have to come back here later when I can work on it again. Anyhow, have a good one man.
[19:34] <shomon> or is it just google or something - in which case there should be a few guides
[19:34] <goddard> already did that still not working and the password is correct
[19:34] <goddard> shomon: cpanel shows me all the settings
[19:34] <shomon> is it sending email okay?
[19:34] <cielak> Muelli: It looks like the 'intel' driver finds no modes
[19:34] <Muelli> cielak: hm. that doesn't sound too good. I think there used to be a "xserver-config" (or smth similar) program which would provide reasonable defaults. But I thought that it was obsolete nowadays. What machine do you have?
[19:35] <Muelli> vessou: hm. weird then. It's seriously weird. Maybe you have disabled some kernel modules? Could it be a hardware issue?
[19:35] <cielak> Muelli: that's a asus 1225c netbook
[19:35] <goddard> shomon: there is an ssl domain and a regular domain when doing testing the regular domain works perfectly with thunderbirds auto detect just not ssl which i have to enter manuall
[19:35] <Muelli> cielak: have you researched whether other people have trouble with it?
[19:35] <praveen_> obi There is no menu.lst in the grub folder.
[19:36] <cielak> Muelli: yeah, and lot, and none of issues found are the one I experience
[19:36] <Evdb> bekks: hello?
[19:36] <shomon> I usually mess a bit with settings when setting that up.. usually some combination or other works..
[19:36] <OpenbsdVbox> praveen_: menu'lst is for grub1
[19:36] <vessou> Muelli, i do not no. it happened after upgrading ubuntu10.10 to ubuntu12.04.
[19:36] <TJ-> praveen_: If the system is started, identify the device-name of the hard disk and ensure GRUB's "/boot/grub/device.map" (if present) is set correctly, and do "sudo update-grub". Best thing is to check the devices first, then we can help you sort it out
[19:36] <Muelli> goddard: make sure you're using the correct ports. Thunderbird has a weird behaviour when making an account use SSL after the account was set up. It keeps the standard, non crypto ports as opposed to the crypto ports.
[19:36] <obi> praveen_: open a terminal and enter "sudo fdisk -l" and tell me what devices are shown
[19:36] <vessou> Muelli, i do not no. it happened after upgrading ubuntu10.10 to ubuntu12.04.
[19:36] <vessou> llutz,i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:36] <Muelli> cielak: hm. that's bad. Can you boot a pendrive or a CD?
[19:37] <Muelli> vessou: can you boot a pendrive and check whether your mouse works?
[19:37] <obi> praveen_: we are looking for your main partition /dev/sda(x)
[19:37] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: how did you upgrade? directly? or from release to release?
[19:37] <Muelli> vessou: what are you having anyway? Mouse? Touchpad?
[19:37] <praveen_> obi Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes Disk identifier: 0x000ea18d     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1            2048   968949759   484473856   83  Linux /dev/sda2       
[19:37] <Evdb> Ah damn I need so much help
[19:37] <cielak> Muelli: only CLI systems, as X always fails to start - but I have a fully working CLI in the Ubuntu I have already installed
[19:37] <Troy^> What is the unity shortcut keys to switch between workspaces?
[19:37] <Evdb> Any Mac Ubuntu people here??
[19:38] <OpenbsdVbox> Troy^: hold down super to see the shortcuts
[19:38] <Muelli> so cielak: You cannot boot any Ubuntu? Not even a fresh one from a CD?
[19:38] <praveen_> obi It shows sda, sda1, sda2, sda5, sdb
[19:38] <Evdb> Mac Ubuntu people?
[19:38] <guntbert_> Evdb: just ask your rela question and prepare for patience :)
[19:38] <Muelli> Troy^: there is a settings menu that'll show you all shortcuts. Try Ctrl+Alt+Up
[19:38] <guntbert_> *real
[19:38] <TJ-> !pastebin | praveen_
[19:38] <vessou> OpenbsdVbox, directly. with a usb key created
[19:38] <Evdb> I really really need help and I've been trying for 1 hour no to get help
[19:38] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: you likely broke your system then
[19:38] <cielak> Muelli: LiveCD gets stuck with a black screen and cursor blinking, both 12.04 and 12.10, I managed to install Ubuntu with alternate install image
[19:39] <Evdb> Have typed my problems 5 times now :(
[19:39] <TJ-> praveen_: Show us the result of this command:  " egrep '\[sd[[:alpha:]]\] [[:digit:]]+' /var/log/dmesg  "
[19:39] <Evdb> Before I explain again, are there Mac Ubuntu people here?
[19:39] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: you can't upgrade from 10.10 directly to 12.04, it isn't supported
[19:39] <vessou> Muelli, what is prenvide cd
[19:39] <gabrieluk> hi, what is correct  sudo apt-get install  libapache2-mod-fastcgi or  sudo apt-get install  libapache2-mod-fcgid ?
[19:39] <obi> praveen_: which has the most blocks and what is listed under it's system
[19:40] <Muelli> cielak: hm. that's very bad. If you cannot get a live cd running, chances are very bad anyway for the installed system to run properly. Can you try some other GNU/Linux like Fedora?
[19:40] <Muelli> !livecd | vessou
[19:40] <vessou> OpenbsdVbox, it proposed it me at installation.
[19:40] <Evdb> I get 'no prefix set'
[19:40] <Muelli> !usb | vessou or use USB
[19:40] <cielak> Muelli: I have tried some, but the problem persists, as all these distros have a common problem with Xorg
[19:40] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: you certian it was 10.10?
[19:41] <Evdb> Which thing should I select in rEFIt??
[19:41] <no_gravity> What do you guys use to manage playlists?
[19:41] <cielak> Muelli: what is interesting, in some countries this very same machine ships with Ubuntu preinstalled
[19:41] <praveen_> obi here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223219/
[19:41] <Muelli> cielak: hm. that's weird then. So which Fedora have you tried?
[19:41] <Evdb> Or should I just hold option key and choose 'windows'
[19:41] <Diane> Don't know how this works so.... My Lucid version on my laptop is totally messed up and I can't back up my files.  If I reinstall will I get a chance to do so?
[19:41] <ampd> Evdb: usb hdd
[19:41] <Evdb> ampd: what do you mean?
[19:41] <cielak> Muelli: I am not sure the exact version, I had a USB drive with it I made few months ago
[19:41] <ampd> Evdb: nevermind, though you were talking about something else
[19:42] <cielak> may chech that
[19:42] <Evdb> nope
[19:42] <Evdb> But please someone...
[19:42] <ampd> Evdb: whats the issue?
[19:42] <vessou> OpenbsdVbox, exactly, i'm very certain. try.
[19:42] <praveen_> TJ-  Here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223223/
[19:42] <Evdb> ampd: I am trying to install Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro
[19:42] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: then it shouldn't have offered, it isn't supported
[19:42] <Evdb> I installed rEFIt
[19:42] <Evdb> tampd: I installed rEFIt
[19:42] <Muelli> cielak: hm. It looks like a bigger problem anyway. You could file a bug against either linux or xserver-xorg. It probably wouldn't help much though.
[19:42] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: the only way to skip releases is from lts to lts
[19:42] <TJ-> praveen_: So, /dev/sda is the internal 500GB hard-drive where you installed Ubuntu to, and /dev/sdb is a 8GB USB stick?
[19:42] <vessou> ubottu, i'm not a novice in usblive.
[19:43] <obi> praveen_: ok, enter sudo ms-sys -m /dev/sda2 and restart
[19:43] <Muelli> cielak: can you pastebin sudo lspi -vv ?
[19:43] <Evdb> ampd: I first burnt a DVD, that didn't work at all
[19:43] <praveen_> TJ- Yes. thats right
[19:43] <Evdb> ampd: then bekks here said I should burn a CD
[19:43] <ampd> Evdb: to install ubuntu with refit?
[19:43] <Evdb> I can start it up but get a 'prefix not set'
[19:43] <Evdb> ampd: ye
[19:44] <Evdb> ampd: I can select try without installing but I get black screen with the cursor
[19:44] <cielak> Muelli: I have always found Xord devs *very* unrespondive :( I will in a sec (need to move the data from the other machine, I am now writhing from another Ubuntu on another machine - and no 'sudo' needed as my netbook is running only in recovery mode) :)
[19:44] <ampd> Evdb: hmm, i used refit a few years ago, let me see what i can find out
[19:44] <vessou> llutz,i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:44] <Evdb> ampd: I really need to get this working for school :s
[19:44] <praveen_> obi I get this message. "/dev/sda2 seems to be a disk partition device, use the switch -f to force writing of a master boot record". Should I force to do it?
[19:44] <Muelli> vessou: what are you having anyway? Mouse? Touchpad?
[19:44] <Muelli> vessou: can you boot a pendrive and check whether your mouse works?
[19:44] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: you need to reinstall fresh
[19:44] <TJ-> praveen_: Run this command and tell us if it gives you a strange-looking line with dots and the word "GRUB" in it? " sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C | grep GRUB "
[19:45] <TJ-> praveen_: E.g. something like this:  00000180  7d e8 2e 00 cd 18 eb fe  47 52 55 42 20 00 47 65  |}.......GRUB .Ge|
[19:45] <obi> praveen_: yes, that is the same message I got when I did this last week and i proceeded
[19:45] <Diane> LINUX LUCID RUINED....CAN'T BACK UP FILES~~CAN I DO SO WHILE REINSTALLING?
[19:45] <vessou> Muelli, mouse!
[19:45] <OpenbsdVbox> !caps | Diane
[19:45] <vessou> OpenbsdVbox, what's fresh?
[19:45] <obi> praveen_: I know this problem/solution only from my experience, not from knowledge lol
[19:45] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: fresh install
[19:45] <Diane> sorry
[19:46] <gordonjcp> Diane: boot from your install media, do "Try Ubuntu without installing", back up anything you want to keep, then run the installer
[19:46] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: a new install
[19:46] <praveen_> TJ- I get the following output.
[19:46] <praveen_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223232/
[19:46] <TJ-> praveen_: obi Installing GRUB to a partition is *not* a good idea... It needs to be installed to the disk's MBR to be bootable from BIOS
[19:46] <gordonjcp> Diane: also, try and install /home on a separate partition to save this nonsense next time
[19:46] <Diane> it won't let me and says I don't have permission to view file in home folder
[19:46] <vessou> OpenbsdVbox, help me. hw can i remove and install it?
[19:46] <praveen_> TJ- Okay
[19:46] <Evdb> bekks: you already back?
[19:47] <TJ-> praveen_: Thank-you. The lack of output confirms that GRUB is *not* installed to the hard drive. Now let's do the same test on the USB stick just to be sure we knw where it is...
[19:47] <gordonjcp> Diane: you probably need to do it as root
[19:47] <obi> TJ-: Ok, you take over :) Peace  praveen_:
[19:47] <bekks> Evdb: I wasnt away.
[19:47] <TJ-> praveen_: " sudo dd if=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C | grep GRUB "
[19:47] <Evdb> bekks: oh okay
[19:47] <ampd> Evdb: you're getting it before refit or during ubuntu bot?
[19:47] <ampd> *boot
[19:47] <OpenbsdVbox> !install | vessou
[19:47] <Evdb> bekks: during boot
[19:47] <Evdb> bekks: i choose the penguin in refit
[19:47] <praveen_> TJ- I get that expected output in USB
[19:48] <Evdb> bekks: i get eroor prefix not set, I can choose try without installing but then the black screen and cursor appear
[19:48] <cielak> Muelli: do have a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223237/
[19:48] <Diane> Gordon-- do it as root??
[19:48] <TJ-> praveen_: Good. That confirms what I had assumed. Now we'll sort things out... Give me a moment whilst I check the procedure locally so I give you the correct advice
[19:48] <Evdb> ampd: i get eroor prefix not set, I can choose try without installing but then the black screen and cursor appear
[19:48] <praveen_> TJ- Okay.
[19:48] <Muelli> hm cielak. So integrated Atom graphics. I think I have that, too.
[19:49] <Evdb> bekks: i tried buring on CD but I still have major problems
[19:49] <cielak> Muelli: exactly
[19:49] <Muelli> cielak: can you also paste your recent Xorg.0.log?
[19:49] <cielak> Muelli: sure! I guess this log is actually more interesting
[19:49] <bekks> Evdb: Does that CD boot on another computer?
[19:50] <Evdb> bekks: no idea actually
[19:50] <TJ-> praveen_: "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"
[19:50] <cielak> Muelli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223242/
[19:50] <vessou> OpenbsdVbox, what's the fresh goal? hw can i use fresh?
[19:51] <cielak> Muelli: of course the ending has most tips
[19:51] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: you need to reinstall
[19:51] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: a new install
[19:51] <praveen_> TJ- Completed that command. Shall I reboot and check?
[19:51] <TJ-> praveen_: Now check you can see GRUB in the master boot record. We'll read it again:  " sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C | grep GRUB "
[19:51] <Muelli> cielak: are you trying to boot with a second monitor attached?
[19:52] <cielak> Muelli: nope... unless a second screen is hidden within the netbook, lol :)
[19:52] <vessou> ok , i understand.
[19:52] <praveen_> TJ- Yes, Now I get the "GRUB" (expected output) with that command.
[19:52] <Muelli> cielak: hm. do you know how to edit the boot parameters for Linux from GRUB? You could try to fiddle with the modeset argument.
[19:52] <Unname> hi
[19:53] <Muelli> cielak: again, sorry, what machine do you have/
[19:53] <Unname> i have an ubuntu client successfuly connected to an openwrt openvpn server
[19:53] <TJ-> praveen_: Go ahead and reboot. Remove the USB (obviously!) ... I think you'll be OK but I'll wait around to hear
[19:53] <Unname> but i cannot ping it
[19:53] <cielak> Muelli: yeah, I am familiar with these tricks... any ideas what parameters are worth trying?
[19:53] <cielak> Muelli: that's a asus 1225c
[19:53] <praveen_> TJ- Okay.
[19:54] <Muelli> cielak: and well, just to double check, you don't have anything in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, right?
[19:55] <praveen_> TJ- Now that works!!!
[19:55] <praveen_> TJ- Thanks a lot... Your great!!!
[19:55] <cielak> Muelli: I am trying both without a xorg.conf and both with a simple config in there, but there is no difference in result
[19:56] <praveen_> obi: Thanks for your help!
[19:56] <Evdb> ampd: found anything?
[19:56] <ccallahan> I have a Type 2007 Lenovo ThinkPad T60p running a AMD Mobility FireGL V5250. I tried installing the fglrx drivers, but amdconfig says it can't detect anything. I am running Ubuntu 12.04. (lspci: http://sprunge.us/NGIe) (fglrxinfo output: http://sprunge.us/XXbN)
[19:56] <Evdb> bekks: will reinstalling refit work?
[19:56] <Evdb> And why using refit if you can boot from cd holding option key?
[19:57] <Muelli> cielak: does the driver, gma500_gfx show up in lsmod?
[19:57] <TJ-> praveen_: Glad you're sorted
[19:57] <ampd> Evdb: as far as i can tell its an ubuntu issue and not refit
[19:57] <e4g> Anyone know of a simple utility to help setup multi-boot systems (multi-linux systems, no windows/mac)?
[19:57] <cielak> Muelli: yup, it does
[19:57] <OpenbsdVbox> ccallahan: why not use the open source drivers?
[19:57] <ampd> Evdb: can you try reinstalling ubuntu?
[19:57] <Evdb> ampd: I haven,'t installed it yet
[19:57] <Muelli> hm. so cielak, I would try to boot twice, once with "gma500_gfx.modeset=1" and once with =0. Make sure to preserve the logs.
[19:58] <ccallahan> I am trying to run Star Trek Online, and the shaders are fubar using the out-of-the-box drivers.
[19:58] <cielak> Muelli: okay, I will try that
[19:58] <Muelli> cielak: maybe a dmesg would also be interesting. Maybe the driver reported somethign
[19:58] <praveen_> TJ- I am new to linux and trying to learn a lot day by day...
[19:58] <obi> praveen_: I wasn't much help, but sure :)
[19:58] <xangua> e4g: i use this http://liveusb.info/dotclear/
[19:58] <ampd> Evdb: so you're getting the error after you click on linux in refit?
[19:58] <OpenbsdVbox> ccallahan: well fglrx probably doesn't support your old card anymore
[19:58] <TJ-> praveen_: You'll soon be a maestro!
[19:58] <ampd> Evdb: and you don't have ubuntu installed?
[19:58] <praveen_> TJ- Thank you...
[19:58] <cielak> Muelli: indeed, I forgot to check dmesg for tips... :)
[19:59] <Evdb> ampd: yeah, I get different options, tried them all aznd I don't yet have Ubuntu
[19:59] <ccallahan> Is there anything else I can use besides the out-of-the-box drivers?
[19:59] <Evdb> amps: can't get it to work
[19:59] <ccallahan> OpenbsdVbox: ^
[19:59] <Evdb> ampd: *can't get it to worjk
[19:59] <OpenbsdVbox> ccallahan: no idea, i'm rather happy with the open source ones
[19:59] <Muelli> cielak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/
[19:59] <ampd> Evdb: are you trying to install 64bit?
[19:59] <Evdb> ampd: yeah
[20:00] <Evdb> ampd: intel processor
[20:00] <e4g> xangua: English version of that site?
[20:00] <xangua> e4g: the google translate toolbar is right up there
[20:00] <cielak> Muelli: yup, I have found that page too, but the trick is that I already am on 12.10, my kernel is 3.5, so that all should work automagically. Testing modeset=1
[20:01] <OpenbsdVbox> cielak: 12.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[20:01] <ampd> Evdb: according to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1945850 the 32 bit version may work
[20:03] <Evdb> ampd: can try it yeah, pretty lmuch lost my fate by now but I'll try
[20:03] <Evdb> ampd: my last hope
[20:03] <Evdb> ampd: or I should try installing an earlier version
[20:03] <ampd> Evdb: i dont think that would help
[20:03] <cielak> Muelli: modeset=1 is a good trail. after starting X it hung for a minute or two, then I was greeted with a full-screen nautilus in 320x240, yeah! :) but at least that's something to start with
[20:03] <Muelli> \o
[20:03] <Muelli> \o/
[20:04] <Evdb> ampd: I'll go burn 32-bit now, will stick around here in the progress
[20:04] <ampd> Evdb: the other (probably better) at this point option would be just to use virtualbox in osx
[20:04] <cielak> Muelli: huge thanks for your time! :)
[20:04] <Muelli> cielak: does dmesg say anything interesting?
[20:04] <Evdb> ampd: yeah but the teachers want it to run native :/
[20:04] <cielak> Muelli: hadn't yet chance to check, I was unable to reach any TTY
[20:05] <ampd> Evdb: what are you doing that it would matter?
[20:05] <ampd> Evdb: if you dont mind me asking
[20:06] <Evdb> ampd: I just started studying applied informatics (literally translated lol something IT with programming and stuff) and we are gonna explore Ubuntu
[20:06] <hvq> hi, is it possible to swap ctrl+c and ctrl+shift+c function in terminal?
[20:06] <Evdb> ampd: my teachers think it's a great OS, and we are gonna do scripting and what not
[20:06] <Ileden> Problem: My netbook loses it's WLAN capability after a random amount of time. It still sees all the networks, and tries to connect to them, but fails (promprts for authentication key). This does happen in the middle of using the WLAN. A reboot always fixes the issue. This does not happen in Win7 (dualboot). Attaching a different WLAN device does connect. This only started to do this after 12.04 update. Any idea how to debug this?
[20:07] <Muelli> hvq: probably. But that'd be very very awkward. Having Ctrl+C *not* seding SIGINT would be *very* unsual.
[20:07] <Muelli> Ileden: see "dmesg" output. Or the logs in /var/log/
[20:07] <ampd> Evdb: even more reason to use virtualization, so you don't screw anything important up. but i guess its up to the teacher. Let me know how 32-bit works. I'd also just use a USB stick so you dont have to burn all these cds
[20:07] <cielak> Muelli: actually.. it says something very interesting - it says that I used an incorrect parameter for 'gma500_gfx.modeset'... but I will let it complain, just managed to see unity, so this must be working!
[20:07] <hvq> Muelli: ok. another question: is there anyway to assign a shortcut to move the current window to the left and make it maxheight and halfwidth
[20:08] <jrib> hvq: maybe with wmctrl
[20:08] <Muelli> hvq: yes. There is a shortcut menu that will list you all of the shortcut. Somewhere in system settings. Try Super+Left.
[20:09] <hvq> Muelli: I belive that's the default one, but somehow it doesnt work on my computer. where can I fix this?
[20:09] <TJ-> Ileden: Tell us which Wifi device it is: "lspci -nn | egrep -i '(net|wire)'  "
[20:09] <Ileden> Muelli: I do have dmesg output captured from the disconnect. Which logs should I be looking at.
[20:09] <Muelli> hvq: yes. There is a shortcut menu that will list and set all of the shortcut.
[20:09] <bugamn> hello
[20:10] <hvq> Muelli: found it, thanx
[20:11] <Evdb> ampd: burning 32-bit fingers crossed
[20:13] <Ileden> TJ-: The device is 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2427 802.11bg Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:002c] (rev 01)
[20:13] <Ileden> TJ-: dmesg output here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223290/
[20:14] <TJ-> Ileden: I thought it might be! Someone else this week had the same device and the exact same problem. Turns out its a bug but it hasn't been fixed yet. Let me look it up
[20:14] <hvq> Muelli: sorry but I think I didnt find the right one. What I need is to make a window appear on the left hand side of the screen, it has maximum height and the width is exactly half of screen width
[20:14] <bugamn> does anyone know if there is a way to disable unity's shortcuts temporaryly?
[20:14] <Ileden> TJ-: wow! rare :)
[20:16] <Muelli> hvq: yep. works for me with Super+Left. But I'm also using GNOME-Shell. Dunno whether unity offers that feature. If you want to use gnome-shell, you can do apt-get install gnome-session.
[20:16] <Ileden> TJ-: Perhaps bug  #994213
[20:16] <Ileden> ah. no
[20:18] <gunarm1> Ileden, i am having problems with my atheros wifi card too, where i would lose connection every few minutes (but I could reconnect).  But i think the solution is SUPPOSED to be to download compat-wireless and do a make && sudo make install and reboot
[20:18] <bonno> hi.. why when i complete remove a program (terminal or synaptic)  some directories and some files in those directories keep staying there after the removal?
[20:19] <TJ-> Ileden: The one I'm thinking of didn't involve rfkill ... still looking!
[20:19] <Mink09_> Looking for a simple way to lose the desktop that came with 12.04, in favor of a previous version. Suggestions pls?
[20:20] <notze> install windows
[20:20] <jrib> bonno: unless you use "purge", apt will keep configurations around so you don't lose your settings if you decide to reinstall the application later
[20:20] <guntbert_> bonno: yes, thats the default, if you want to get rid of them as well, use purge instead of remoov
[20:20] <guntbert_> *remove
[20:20] <Ileden> TJ-: Bug #773154 ?
[20:20] <bonno> purge is only for terminal..what is the alt on synaptic?
[20:20] <dr_willis> apt will not touch settings in the users homes either. ;-)
[20:20] <kunji> bonno: It's because configuration is left in case you wanted to install it again latter, as jrib says, try using purge (sudo apt-get purge [package name])
[20:20] <Mink09_> notze thats not it
[20:21] <OerHeks> notze see bug #1
[20:21] <jrib> bonno: "complete removal"
[20:21] <Ileden> TJ-: Or Bug #1014263 ?
[20:21] <TJ-> Ileden: It was related to the "nohwcrypt" parameter being required to disable using the chips' hardware encryption engine
[20:21] <bonno> i do that.. still the same problem..i click complete removal..
[20:21] <bonno> :/
[20:21] <kunji> lol, bug #1
[20:21] <jrib> bonno: what files are we talking about, specifically?
[20:22] <bonno> some are in the home directory.. some in the home/config
[20:22] <TJ-> Ileden: Is your device using the ath5k driver? ("sudo lspci -vvvnn -s 02:00.0" )
[20:22] <dr_willis> i just said files in the users home will never get touched by apt.
[20:22] <guntbert_> bonno: those files will never ge removed by the system
[20:22] <guntbert_> *get
[20:23] <Ileden> TJ-: Hey, hmm, I recall having a problems some years ago with the same device and one specific WLAN station, and one solution I ended up trying was somehow related to nohwcrypt parameter... (never got it fixed, though)
[20:23] <dr_willis> thats a feature. :)
[20:23] <bonno> so what should i do if i want all of the program's files out?
[20:23] <kunji> bonno: umm, hmm, yeah that happens sometimes, you're probably fine to just manually delete them, but I couldn't say for sure without knowing more.  They were probably created by the package/program when it ran, rather than installed by apt.
[20:23] <Ileden> TJ-: Kernel driver in use: ath9k ?
[20:23] <dr_willis> bonno:  users are responsible for their own files in their home
[20:24] <guntbert_> bonno: what is your problem with those files?
[20:24] <kunji> guntbert_: probably just that they're unused clutter
[20:24] <dr_willis> uninwtalling an app to reset a useres settings is a windows mindset thing.
[20:25] <ElixirVitae> I am glad I came accross brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[20:25] <kunji> dr_willis: true, but it's sometimes the way to go when you really mangle something (like I did to my soundsystem, lol)
[20:25] <guntbert_> kunji: forget it, they rarely take up much space
[20:25] <jrib> bonno: if you don't want them, delete them.  But they don't hurt anything if you just leave them there
[20:25] <ElixirVitae> also, here is a interesting one, downvoted to oblivion, implemented nonetheless
[20:26] <Acromartsu> Hello
[20:26] <dr_willis> howdys
[20:26] <guntbert_> bonno: instead of deleting the just rename them - so you can check what went wrong
[20:26] <bonno> i know.. but it bothers me :P so many dir in there
[20:26] <L3top> bonno: what I would do is move them somplace else temporarily... see if there are any negative effects... and then after a week or so, delete them... as I have no idea what files you are talking about.
[20:26] <dr_willis> i make an old-settings dir to move stuff to if i want to reset things
[20:27] <L3top> bonno: word to the wise... do not use /tmp directory... it is deleted every boot
[20:27] <bonno> L3top  lol
[20:28] <Acromartsu> Guys, sorry for asking a little off-topic question, but do you guys use Rescue CD's? I made a Live CD of some Distro's, and now I want to make an AV rescue CD, but I don't know which one to pick. Any suggestions?
[20:28] <kunji> AV?
[20:28] <TJ-> Ileden: darn! probably a different cause then, unless there's a systemic issue with the recent Atheros code!
[20:28] <Acromartsu> Av = AntiVirus
[20:28] <bonno> so there isnt anything else except deleting them manually on my own.. :P
[20:28] <Acromartsu> kunji, AV => Anti Virus
[20:28] <dr_willis> Acromartsu: avg had A live cd on thir homepage at one time
[20:28] <guntbert_> Acromartsu: why do you ask when you know it is off topic in a support channel?
[20:29] <kunji> Pretty much any live cd should be fine, no?  Though there's probably specialized ones.
[20:29] <kunji> If you wanted you could go with one of the forensics ones
[20:29] <dr_willis> there are. but av software really should be kept up to date.
[20:29] <Acromartsu> guntbert, because I cannot find any irc channels that answer my question(s), nor a webpage that is sufficiently informative. There's a BackTrack irc for instance, but nobody is active in there...
[20:30] <Acromartsu> and guntbert, because this is the Ubuntu channel, which is still Linux-related and I know it's populated
[20:30] <kunji> dr_willis: yeah, I would just make a live USB on demand for something like that I think
[20:30] <guntbert_> Acromartsu: it is still off topic here - you can try to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:30] <dr_willis> you can install av software to ram from  a cd.   ot use a live usb
[20:30] <bekks> Acromartsu: I havent heard of linux viruses in the wild yet.
[20:30] <bekks> Personally, I dont need an AV rescue cd.
[20:31] <kunji> bekks: Probably to rescue other comps, or he dual boots or something
[20:31] <dr_willis> i only use them to scan windows stuff. ;)
[20:31] <Ileden> TJ-: Oh well. :/
[20:31] <Acromartsu> bekks, I know, I'm going to use Linux when I get my new computer, but right now I'm making love CDs to help other non-tech-savvy people
[20:31] <bonno> making love CD's
[20:31] <bonno> haha
[20:31] <Ileden> TJ-: do you think I should report this somewhere?
[20:31] <TJ-> Ileden: so back to those log-files! Do you have a /var/log/kern.log that covers a period when the issue occurred?
[20:32] <Acromartsu> So apart from a forensics app and an OS to use on-the-go (Ubuntu) I also want an AV CD
[20:32]  * bekks grabs his "No. I will NOT fix your Windows."-tshirt and sits back on the channel sofa to let the OT pass by.
[20:32] <TJ-> Ileden: Let's see if we can narrow it down first
[20:32] <Ileden> TJ-: Let's see. I using the netbook currently on a session that had the wlan problem some half-hour ago.
[20:33] <tenX> bekks: you wont fix my windows because you are always busy keeping your linux running :>
[20:34] <bekks> tenX: Somehow I have to waste my time while watching my Solaris keep running :>
[20:34] <TJ-> Ileden: If you know the time, check the log-file for the time you think it occurred. I'd like to see log entries for -/+ 2 minutes either side... if you can get them and pastebin them that would be really helpful. Use "log file viewer" to open the log-file and check the log.
[20:34] <daslinkard> Hello room!
[20:34] <bekks> And now back to the topic please :)
[20:34] <Ileden> TJ-: Yes, found it.
[20:34] <tenX> bekks: acceptable
[20:34] <henry_> mmmmmm
[20:34] <daslinkard> If an install of Ubuntu is botched for a dual boot and every time the PC is restarted....it asks for the Windows installer cd....is there a work around for this?
[20:35] <henry_> probando
[20:35] <fredfuchs> JEEZES CHRIST THERES SO MANY PEOPLE HERE
[20:35] <kunji> Acromartsu: what are you expecting this cd to do that would be on the others?  Run Antivirus software?
[20:35] <kunji> daslinkard: yeah, check out the grub2 documentation
[20:36] <rolling2k> 4750556060807497 0714 132 APPROVED! BANK: |BANK_ONE,_N.A._-_DEBIT|DEBIT|CLASSIC|UNITED_STATES_OF_AMERICA|800-291-5165
[20:37] <Ileden> TJ-: Entries before and after the failure in /var/log/kern.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223328/
[20:37] <daslinkard> kunji: Thank you
[20:37] <hvq> Muelli: it has been moved to ctrl+super+left/right, thanx
[20:37] <ampd> Evdb: update? did the 32-bit install work?\
[20:38] <jrib> rolling2k: welcome back...
[20:38] <rolling2k> hehe
[20:39] <Ileden> TJ-:  The log kept on going with the same failure message s
[20:39] <Ileden> TJ-:  The log kept on going with the same failure messages for a few more minutes.
[20:39] <kunji> daslinkard: np, I'm sure someone will be able to help if it's still giving you problems after trying to recover GRUB2
[20:39] <TJ-> Ileden: Looking
[20:40] <Ileden> TJ-: And it seems it's still going at it, says "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" :)
[20:40] <TJ-> Ileden: That log looks familar, I'll dig some more!
[20:42] <Scunizi> .
[20:42] <gunarm1> is there a command that will add up how much space is in a directory tree?
[20:42] <gunarm1> used*
[20:43] <kunji> Unname: Hmm, have you checked that ICMP is being allowed all the way through and that the server responds to other ICMP requests?
[20:43] <guntbert> gunarm1: du -sh /path/to/the/directory     will tell you
[20:43] <Ileden> gunarm1: du -h <path>
[20:43] <TJ-> Ileden: Have you installed VirtualBox ?
[20:43] <Scunizi> I just loaded the server image in a vBox VM and would like to add a minimal Desktop without all the typical packages that come with the desktop.. How do I go about that?
[20:43] <gunarm1> ty
[20:43] <Ileden> TJ-: not to my knowledge...
[20:43] <Unname> kunji, now i can ping it (i had to enable the lzo compression on client)
[20:44] <Unname> but i cannot reach the remote subnet
[20:44] <Unname> i'm adding a rule in the firewall
[20:44] <Unname> to forward the lan to vpn
[20:44] <guntbert> !enter | Unname
[20:44] <Unname> sorry
[20:44] <kunji> Unname: Hmm, ok, sounds like you've got it under control ^_^
[20:44] <Ileden> gunarm1: yes, du -hs indeed. and if you want more detail, for example du -h --max-depth=2
[20:44] <Unname> i'll tell you
[20:45] <gunarm1> Ileden, very cool, thanks
[20:46] <gunarm1> when I am very limited on space (laptop ssd) what is the minimum size partition I should be able to get away with for "/"?
[20:47] <alii_> Hhallo dear cyber frends
[20:47] <TJ-> Ileden: Does this happen only after putting the PC into suspend? Or after a cold boot?
[20:47] <guntbert> gunarm1: depends on what you intend to do with that system
[20:49] <Ileden> TJ-: Good question. I do use susped quite a lot.
[20:49] <Ileden> TJ-: So I'm only sure that it does happen after suspend.
[20:50] <Ileden> TJ-: Wait, no. This time I did boot up cold, and it did occur, so happes both ways.
[20:51] <TJ-> Ileden: I see a bugzilla RedHat report that suggests it can be solved by changing the device's power-save settings. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?format=multiple&id=815377
[20:53] <Ileden> TJ-: Hmm, does look promising. Any idea how I disable the power management for the wifi card?
[20:54] <Ileden> Wait, probably in the therad...
[20:54] <Ileden> I'll read though.
[20:54] <Ileden> (duh)
[20:55] <Scunizi> what package do I need for a minimal desktop environment?  I've already installed server.
[20:55] <Ileden> Yup, there it is. "iwconfig wlanX power off" and "iw dev wlanX set power_save off"
[20:55] <TJ-> Ileden: comment #2 of that report (iwconfig ... or iw dev ...)
[20:56] <OpenbsdVbox> Scunizi: depends how minimal
[20:56] <bekks> Scunizi: lubuntu-desktop for LXDE or xubuntu-desktop for XFCE.
[20:56] <BoozeWooz> jooo
[20:56] <tuxmatt> Scunizi,  i belive lxde or xfce
[20:56] <Scunizi> OpenbsdVbox: ubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop etc pull all packages.. I just want the gui not all the associated programs..
[20:57] <Ileden> TJ-: I'll try to make the change, and see if it happend again. Thanks! If this solves the issue, it'll be a lot of help, since I regularly use by phone wlan tether to get online on the go.
[20:57] <Becca> Hey. I just downloaded ubuntu to fix a resolution problem but now I have no idea how to get the internet to work on Ubuntu. Can anybody help me pleease? ):
[20:57] <tuxmatt> Scunizi,  i dont belive we can help you there man
[20:57] <Acromartsu> I'm no user! I'm an alien!
[20:58] <Scunizi> tuxmatt: there is a way to get a gui without all the other stuff.. like libreoffice etc.. I just don't need that stuff.
[20:58] <TJ-> Ileden: Good luck. If it does prove to solve it, please report a bug against the 'linux' package describing the issue, the sample of the log file, and the workaround, and link to that Redhat bug
[20:58] <OpenbsdVbox> Scunizi: if you know exactly what you want then install those packages; any reason you started with the server iso instead of mini?
[20:58] <tuxmatt> Becca,  what ubuntu you have
[20:58] <Becca> errrr
[20:58] <Becca> lemme check...
[20:58] <TJ-> Ileden: and feel free to subscribe me to the bug report too - my launchpad id is "tj"
[20:58] <BoozeWooz> heres much talk, so ill ask here instead. helps...
[20:58] <tuxmatt> Scunizi, i never seen no one done it before
[20:58] <kunji> Scunizi: it shouldn't be that bad to do, have you read the apt-get manual?
[20:59] <BoozeWooz> i have ramdisk created by "#mount -t ramfs -o size=256M ramfs /directorystuffs"
[20:59] <BoozeWooz> i putted some staff inside of it
[20:59] <BoozeWooz> but it no werk :@
[20:59] <Scunizi> OpenbsdVbox: faster download and install into a vm.  I'm looking for gnome/unity or xfce
[20:59] <Becca> I dunno I have ubuntu for windows desktop I guess
[20:59] <BoozeWooz> lol
[20:59] <BoozeWooz> wabutu
[20:59] <OpenbsdVbox> Scunizi: xfce would be the lightest of those
[21:00] <Scunizi> tuxmatt: kunji I'm on cli now with irssi.. apt is no stranger.. I just don't need what <something>-desktop provides.. which is way too many programs for my need.
[21:00] <BoozeWooz> halp :S?
[21:00] <Scunizi> OpenbsdVbox: I think so too.. I'll search apt for a package
[21:00] <Ileden> TJ-: Will do. Takes a while to be sure it's really fixed, though, as the problem appears randomly.
[21:00] <kunji> Scunizi: I know, you can run apt-get using the simulation, or just say no when it asks, and then you can see all the packages it wanted to install, just pick the ones you want and install those.
[21:00] <TJ-> Ileden: yeah, I expect it will. No rush, but be good to have a solution documented if there is one
[21:01] <tuxmatt> Becca,  can you take a screen shot of your desktop and send it to me
[21:01] <Ileden> TJ-: Though there was something about the failure condition being related to the router switching channels. I will try to see if I can recreate the issue by manually forcing a channel switch.
[21:01] <tuxmatt> Becca,  pm me and ill see what i can do for you
[21:01] <OpenbsdVbox> !info xfce4 | Scunizi
[21:01] <kunji> Scunizi: So rather than installing the meta package with the whole shabam, just pick out the essentials
[21:01] <TJ-> Ileden: Yes, I saw that too. Maybe the device switches to power-save and doesn't wake up when the beacon changes
[21:03] <kunji> Scunizi: alternatively you could just let them install and remove them after.
[21:03] <Scunizi> kunji: OpenbsdVbox xfc4 is the right package.. and much faster install than kunji 's method.. sudo apt-get install xfce4 .. done :)
[21:04] <kunji> Scunizi: that meta package just doesn't have much else in it, but if you wanted gnome for instance, you need to pick out the right package :P
[21:04] <Scunizi> kunji: that's the whole point.. ie "not much in it"
[21:04] <Ileden> TJ-: Thanks and bye!
[21:05] <kunji> Scunizi: Of XFCE, yeah ^_^
[21:06] <Scunizi> kunji: could have done unity too without all the additional "stuff" .. but this is in a virtual machine running in vBox in Win7 (ick) and a programming environment for my son.
[21:08] <kunji> Scunizi: Yep, hmm, all is good, as long as it's not Java he'll be doing ;)
[21:09] <strywgr> i cannot install anything or remove anything from my Ubuntu 12.04. I need to install flash please anyone can help?
[21:10] <testing_> strywgr, more info: do mean that you can't install something because something is broken in install software, or that you are a user that doesn't have privileges to install software?
[21:11] <Unname__> kunji, now i can't ping the remote host O.o
[21:13] <didic> what does it mean when 2 mailservers have the same priority?
[21:13] <didic> is it just for load balancing or are there other reasons?
[21:13] <didic> i mean mx entries
[21:13] <strywgr> Items cannot be installed or removed until the package catalog is repaired. DO you want to repair it now?
[21:14] <strywgr> when i click reapair!
[21:14] <strywgr> it says.. 'Package INstallation Failed'
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[21:16] <htamayo> Hi, after install ubuntu precise I don't get the graph mode work, my video card is an ati radeon x1200 series, i was trying to install the fglrx but that was a very big problem cause it does not work, so, i had remove the fglrx modules, after reboot i tried to reconfigure the xorg but still is unsucessfull, the error i got is "no device to configure", so i don't know what else can i do; is there any generic video module/package that i can use?
[21:16] <Unname__> kunji, still alive?
[21:18] <lmbeta8> htamayo xorg should be using readeon module
[21:20] <zenx> hi I installed a gmail quantal minimal fs and I can't establish https connection, I configured eth0 as dhcp in interfaces and added google's DNS nameserver to resolv.conf, is there something missing?
[21:20] <auronandace> !12.10 | zenx
[21:20] <zenx> thanks
[21:21] <racsminilaptop> hello!
[21:21] <htamayo> lmbeta8: how can I reconfigure my xorg in precise? i've already tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and also Xorg -reconfigure, but does not work, in fact, i don't have xorg.conf file, so what command should i tried?
[21:21] <racsminilaptop> yes! I am in!... Any help with my ati card video to activate the effects??
[21:22] <Jagst3r15> how come the chromium here https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/chromium-browser/ is different from the one here http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/web/chromium-browser
[21:22] <racsminilaptop> I have been trying everything and doesnt work!
[21:23] <racsminilaptop> Any help with my ati card video to activate the effects??
[21:23] <lmbeta8> htamayo:http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide#Generate_a_new_.2Fetc.2FX11.2Fxorg.conf_file
[21:24] <racsminilaptop> Any help with my ati card video to activate the effects??
[21:25] <htamayo> lmbeta8: thanks i will try then i will come back, as a funny thing, I'm in text mode, i'm figure it out how to get to that url without the use of the mouse :-)
[21:25] <strywgr> i cannot install anything or remove anything from my Ubuntu 12.04. I need to install flash please anyone can help? Items cannot be installed or removed until the package catalog is repaired. DO you want to repair it now?
[21:26] <testing_> strywgr, I don't know.
[21:26] <racsminilaptop> strywgr... try this in the terminal... sudo apt-get update
[21:27] <strywgr> how to install flash
[21:27] <testing_> strywgr, from here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+question/152969 it offers some things to try.
[21:28] <testing_> strywgr it says to try on a command line, sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[21:28] <strywgr> okay i did both
[21:29] <strywgr> now i want to install flash for youtube and other websites
[21:29] <strywgr> is thr any command for that?
[21:29] <racsminilaptop> strywgr... go to software center and write flash....
[21:29] <racsminilaptop> it'll install
[21:30] <strywgr> The package system is broken
[21:30] <strywgr> Check if you are using third party repositories. If so disable them, since they are a common source of problems.
[21:30] <strywgr> Furthermore run the following command in a Terminal: apt-get install -f
[21:30] <cincinnatus> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on an Amazon EC2 micro instance. What would be a good free admin control panel for it? Is Zentyal any good?
[21:31] <racsminilaptop> Any help with my ati card video to activate the effects??
[21:31] <strywgr> no luck
[21:31] <strywgr> thanks!
[21:32] <cincinnatus> I'm a bit out of date on panels because I've been administering linux boxes the old-fashioned way (vim <config_file_name). The last one I used was webmin.
[21:34] <testing_> strywgr try running sudo synaptic on command line to open synaptic
[21:34] <strywgr> command not found
[21:35] <racsminilaptop> strywgr....http://askubuntu.com/questions/128814/package-system-is-broken-i-need-to-fix-cant-add-or-remove-apps
[21:35] <DJRWolf> does Ubuntu have some kind of keyboard assist like windows where if you keep hitting a key it starts to keep it pressed down?
[21:38] <racsminilaptop> Any help with my ati card video to activate the effects??
[21:38] <Scunizi> kunji: sorry lunch called.. nope no java.. python and a bit of mysql
[21:38] <dr_willis> DJRWolf:  you mean repeate keys like eeeeeeeeeeeee ?
[21:38] <dr_willis> DJRWolf:  or some sort of stickyness to shift/ctrl ?
[21:38] <DJRWolf> like WADS for my games, they keep getting "stuck" until I press them again, it is getting annoying, keyboard does not do that on windows side
[21:39] <ramiro> hi. what program can I use to playback input from my DVC100 capture card? the input is composite in. I can capture using ffmpeg with video4linux2, but i'd like to playback in realtime
[21:40] <Jagst3r15> actionparsnip  how come the chromium here https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/chromium-browser/ is different from the one here http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/web/chromium-browser
[21:41] <actionParsnip> Jagst3r15: not sure, looks like a bug
[21:41] <Jagst3r15> chromium maintainer are kinda disorganized arent they :p
[21:42] <racsminilaptop> Any help with my ati card video to activate the effects??
[21:42] <trism> Jagst3r15: you need to look in precise-updates: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/chromium-browser (that's the version we have now, same as the app page)
[21:42] <dr_willis> DJRWolf:  cant say ive ever noticed it in games on Ubuntu. but i dont play a lot of FPS's on my linux box.
[21:43] <DJRWolf> dr_willis minecraft
[21:43] <dr_willis> DJRWolf:  as a test try a very minimal window maanger,  and just a wm, to see if it still does it.. if it dosent, then that would point to some unity/gnome3 setting
[21:43] <Jagst3r15> trism that is the one in the USC?
[21:43] <actionParsnip> Jagst3r15: https://launchpad.net/~a-v-shkop/+archive/chromium   for version 21. https://launchpad.net/~a-v-shkop/+archive/chromium-dev   for version 23
[21:43] <dr_willis> if it does it in icewm for example, that would point to a X setting/issue
[21:43] <trism> Jagst3r15: I imagine, I don't really use software-center, the version numbers match the page you link though
[21:43] <DJRWolf> dr_willis it happens in unity ubuntu and lubuntu's LXDE
[21:44] <Jagst3r15> brb
[21:44] <dr_willis> try it in wmx, or icewm ,   if it does it in those. that would point to some odd X/kernel/settings issue
[21:45] <dr_willis> !info wmx
[21:45] <dr_willis> heh. try jwm, or icewm ;)  not wmx. thats an old old old wm.
[21:46] <inter> ciao a tutti
[21:46] <actionParsnip> ahhh jwm is what puppy uses
[21:46] <inter> !list
[21:47] <dr_willis> I think we should make ubottu  msg that list factoid to people ;) save   a lot of log size. :)
[21:48] <actionParsnip> dr_willis: maybe, but some folks block PMs
[21:48] <dr_willis> I doubt if those are the ones doing Caio,listing drive byes ;)
[21:51] <Ocult> hi
[21:52] <Danno_> hi, anbody fancy helping  out with a gedit issue?
[21:52] <jrib> !ask | Danno_
[21:53] <jrib> dr_willis: we should just have ubottu serve up all the different ubuntu images
[21:53] <GoGi> help
[21:54] <Ocult> help2
[21:54] <jrib> Ocult, GoGi: instead of saying "help", ask your actual questions
[21:55] <ezioa> why if i chmod 300 a directory can people still access files inside the directory
[21:55] <GoGi> sorry client (user) malfunction
[21:55] <jrib> ezioa: because you have given them permission to
[21:55] <Danno_> im trying to save my touchscreen calibration values to the 10-evdev.conf file, but when i try to open gedit via terminal i get a "could not connect to session bus" error. can anyone help me with this? im running Lubuntu 12.04, fully patched
[21:55] <phil> Whp does Windows 7 boot in fifteen seconds when ubuntu takes over two minutes?
[21:55] <Ocult> its about conky config, someone may help me ?
[21:55] <ezioa> jrib, but i took the permisson from the directory
[21:55] <phil> *Why
[21:55] <hokay> Привет
[21:55] <ezioa> how can they possible access files inside a directory i've removed read permissions from
[21:56] <tyhgvg> phil: press esc during boot and see what happens
[21:56] <actionParsnip> phil: have you tried installing preload ?
[21:56] <jrib> ezioa: you're being too vague to get a real answer but all you need is executable permission on a directory to "go inside it".  They just can't list the contents of the directory without read
[21:57] <actionParsnip> phil: did you install using Wubi or a true install?
[21:59] <Danno_> im trying to save my touchscreen calibration values to the 10-evdev.conf file, but when i try to open gedit via terminal i get a "could not connect to session bus" error. can anyone help me with this? im running Lubuntu 12.04, fully patched
[22:00] <actionParsnip> Danno_: try:  gksudo leafpad      and you can write to any file you want.
[22:03] <peatene> 4eskz
[22:03] <racsminilaptop_> hello! any body can help me to activate the effects in my ubuntu using compiz.... I tried somethings... but... didnt work!
[22:04] <peatene> czech
[22:04] <racsminilaptop_> I have edubuntu 12.04.... I already isntalled compiz and ati drivers.. but.. doesnt work.. any suggestions
[22:04] <BluesKaj> !cz
[22:04] <BluesKaj> peatene,^
[22:04] <david-a> racsminilaptop_: tried what? error message or nothing happend?
[22:05] <racsminilaptop_> nothing happend
[22:05] <racsminilaptop_> I installed the original drivers
[22:05] <racsminilaptop_> and I cant activate the effects,...
[22:05] <racsminilaptop_>  reinstalled compiz and didnt work...
[22:06] <racsminilaptop_> I dont know what to do!
[22:06] <david-a> racsminilaptop_: did you install ati drivers via "additioinal drivers" in system settings?
[22:07] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[22:07] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: you can use http://pastie.org or similar, thanks
[22:07] <racsminilaptop_> yes... from additional drivers
[22:08] <david-a> racsminilaptop_: do you enable effects in "appearance" system settings? (i'm on 10.04 so not sure about the terminologi in 12.04)
[22:11] <racsminilaptop_> ^CNo LSB modules are available.
[22:11] <racsminilaptop_> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[22:11] <racsminilaptop_> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[22:11] <racsminilaptop_> Release:	12.04
[22:11] <racsminilaptop_> Codename:	precise
[22:11] <FloodBot1> racsminilaptop_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:11] <racsminilaptop_> Linux racsminilaptop 3.2.0-31-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:16:45 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:13] <actionParsnip> (23:07:24) actionParsnip: racsminilaptop_: you can use http://pastie.org or similar, thanks
[22:13] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: I did tell you......?
[22:14] <Danno_> @actionParsnip that seems to have allowed me to make the changes but after rebooting it doesnt seem to have made any difference. any ideas?
[22:14] <actionParsnip> Danno_: incorrect file maybe.
[22:18] <racsminilaptop_> i dont know if this is right.. but.. I went to pastie.org    and this is the result.. http://pastie.org/4787875
[22:19] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: you missed the first command...did you actually read what I wrote?
[22:22] <racsminilaptop_> sorry... You told me to use this comand..  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[22:22] <racsminilaptop_> is that right?
[22:23] <Danno_> @actionparsnip ive found out which file im actually supposed to be editing, but when i try to change to that directory in terminal it says it doesnt exist. can i just create it myself or would that not work as i need it to?
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> racsminilaptop_  yes, and paste the output in pastie.org
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> racsminilaptop_  and then paste the url here
[22:23] <actionParsnip> Danno_: yes, make it
[22:23] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: yes, but you missed the first part of the command.
[22:24] <racsminilaptop_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223510/
[22:25] <racsminilaptop_> did it work this time? sorry i am pretty new with ubuntu
[22:25] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: ok cool, the proprietary driver is loaded.
[22:25] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: pastebin is OS independant. I'd ask in #compiz too, may help
[22:27] <racsminilaptop_> so.. I should change the channel..  to #compiz.... I want to make sure about your suggestion... and thanks by the way
[22:30] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: type:    /j #compiz
[22:30] <Dragonriot> hey guys, I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server on my 2U Rack Server with hardware RAID5.  Every time I try to remove the old debian installation, and install Ubuntu, it appears to be successful, but then when I reboot and try to start up the new Ubuntu install, it reverts back to Debian... Can anyone suggest a way to truly get rid of the old Debian Install so I can start fresh?
[22:32] <racsminilaptop_>  /j #compiz
[22:34] <MonkeyDust> Dragonriot  can you not just delete the partition?
[22:34] <IdleOne> racsminilaptop_: no space before the /
[22:35] <racsminilaptop_> i did without space... but nothing happend..
[22:39] <racsminilaptop_> Idleone....I am lost. can you help me please?
[22:39] <IdleOne> racsminilaptop_: with?
[22:40] <dr_willis>  racsminilaptop_  what irc client are you using?
[22:40] <racsminilaptop_> ubuntu
[22:40] <IdleOne> racsminilaptop_: ubuntu is the operating system, what program are you using to chat in this channel?
[22:40] <racsminilaptop_> xchat
[22:40] <IdleOne> ok
[22:41] <IdleOne> type /join #compiz
[22:41] <racsminilaptop_> in the terminal?
[22:42] <dr_willis> in your irc client....
[22:42] <IdleOne> no
[22:42] <IdleOne> in this window
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> in xchat
[22:42] <dr_willis>  /whatever  are IRC client commands.
[22:43] <racsminilaptop_> I typed the command.. Now, what should I do?
[22:43] <dr_willis> it should show a new channel window somewhere...
[22:43] <dr_willis> you can be in dozens of channels at the same time
[22:43] <IdleOne> racsminilaptop_: you are already in #compiz
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> racsminilaptop_  now go to the #compiz window
[22:46] <dr_willis> !find gpac
[22:46] <dr_willis> !info gpac
[22:47] <Petaz> !apt-get install gimp
[22:47] <Petaz> damn
[22:47] <Petaz> didnt worj
[22:49] <dr_willis> looking for some video tools.. site mentioned gpac.. that apt description has to be one of the worse ive seen. :)
[22:49] <dr_willis> Its like redundantly redundant. :)
[22:50] <dr_willis> !find MP4Box
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> dr_willis  you should know better, do that in an ubottu screen
[22:51] <notroot> hello
[22:51] <dr_willis> anyone else think we need some sort of 'tagging' system to apt so we can find things easier.
[22:52] <notroot> I've googled around for an hour or so trying to find the solution to this problem: Ubuntu Server install doesn't have an option to do full disk encryption using aes-xts-plain, it seems that manual configuration is only possible through the Ubuntu Desktop LiveCD.  Is there a way to install Ubuntu Desktop then remove all the GUI elements?
[22:53] <phil_fl> dr_willis, you don't like $ apt-cache search MP4Box ?
[22:53] <dr_willis> was searching  the repos for other video tools.. none even mentioned gpac yesterday
[22:53] <dr_willis> did a simile search today on google and a site mentioned gpac.
[22:54] <muellisoft> notroot: sure. You can apt-get install ubuntu-server and apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop and afterwards all the unnecessary packages should be gone. But I don't know right now how smart the dependecy tracking really is.
[22:54] <Mr_Queue> At that point, you're better off starting again.
[22:54] <Mr_Queue> Do it right the first time.
[22:55] <Mr_Queue> Sync whatever data you're looking to keep somewhere, start again, do it right, and bring the data back.
[22:55] <racsminilaptop_> Idleone...no body is in compiz channel  :(
[22:55] <Mr_Queue> People still run that? O_o
[22:55] <Petaz> that cant be true
[22:55] <notroot> Muelli: Is there a way to install Server but set up encryption ahead of time?
[22:56] <Mr_Queue> ^^ Through the installer.
[22:56] <Petaz> so what is the new compiz?
[22:56] <AmarokNelg> Instead of compiz, try kwin?
[22:56] <notroot> Mr_Queue: the installer doesn't allow aes-xts-* as algorithms
[22:56] <dr_willis> New Compiz?
[22:57] <notroot> only aes-cbc-* and serpent
[22:57] <racsminilaptop_> new compiz?
[22:57] <Mr_Queue> notroot: put any thought into why that algorithm isn't supported in an installer written by the best minds of both the Debian and Ubuntu teams?
[22:57] <Mr_Queue> You're likely doing it wrong.
[22:58] <Muelli> notroot: hm. well. you could probably attempt the install but set up your crypto container manually before you select the partition to install to. But that already sounds like getting hairy.
[22:58] <Muelli> notroot: other than that: I don't know.
[22:58] <racsminilaptop_> dr_willis...  thanks for your support... but .. no body answer in  compiz channel... any other suggestion.. pleasea and thanks
[22:58] <dr_willis> racsminilaptop_:  i dont even know what your original problem is.
[22:59] <Mr_Queue> lulz
[22:59] <AmarokNelg> I dont know eather
[22:59] <Mr_Queue> Started at power on, lets go from there.
[22:59] <notroot> Mr_Queue: It's not directly supported in Desktop edition either (you have to do it manually) but it's a better algorithm.  Why they haven't updated it or allow something similar for Server is beyond me.
[23:00] <Mr_Queue> There are reasons. Have you came up with a reason it's needed? Other than to just do it?
[23:00] <racsminilaptop_> dr_willis : my problem is that I cant activate any effect on my minilaptop... I installed compiz, original drivers and The effects doesnt work..
[23:00] <AmarokNelg> try kwin instead of compiz
[23:00] <notroot> Mr_Queue: Yes, because XTS is faster and more secure than CBC
[23:01] <Foyle> quit
[23:01] <Mr_Queue> I mean everyone starts somewhere, but if you're asking for support getting an encryption algorithm outside of the installer, I think you're going to run into much bigger problems down the road.
[23:01] <dr_willis> racsminilaptop_:  last time i saw someone in here fighting with that.. they were running Unity-2d instead of 3d..
[23:02] <notroot> I can do it on Desktop with no problems, but that's because there's a LiveCD of the Desktop edition.  Is there a LiveCD of Server somewhere? I haven't been able to find one
[23:02] <Muelli> well notroot. You might be able to let the server install set up the container and just after it's finished reconfigure the container and make the installation use that (without it knowing about it).
[23:02] <Mr_Queue> Perhaps there are key binaries in the repos which are not, or can not be compiled to support what you're after.
[23:02] <Mr_Queue> encryption is suppose to be secure, not fast.
[23:02] <notroot> Muelli: reconfiguring the container would require decrypting and then reencrypting.  It's possible, but likely to screw up in some way
[23:03]  * Muelli nods
[23:03] <racsminilaptop_> dr_ willis: how do I install 3d... I am using ubuntu 2d
[23:03] <racsminilaptop_> at the beginning of the session
[23:03] <dr_willis> racsminilaptop_:  if you are using 2d that explains your whole issue.
[23:03] <zykotick9> notroot: i believe the text installers have MORE options then the LiveCD, not less.  and there is no server livecd.
[23:03] <dr_willis> You select Unity, not unity2d at the login screen. racsminilaptop_
[23:03] <Dragonriot> MonkeyDust: tried that... even tried formatting it with NTFS... but the RAID5 setup just restores the drive each time... Im working on getting into the Raid Controller now, downloading the CD for the server
[23:04] <Muelli> nah, I'd rather meant to kinda interrupt the installation process, like not advancing just after the container was set up. I don't know the process but I imagine the installer having a separate step for setting up the container. So after that, you could maybe reconfigure the thing. And no data has been copied yet.
[23:06] <racsminilaptop_> OK... i will try now.
[23:06] <racsminilaptop_> thanks.
[23:06] <YanGM> hello
[23:06] <notroot> well the way you do it on Desktop is boot the live CD, manually configure the partitions, install, chroot into the new install, set the new install to work with the encrypted container and update the initrd
[23:06] <notroot> but the server has no option to do that because there's no live CD
[23:07] <YanGM> I want to connect a server to a switch, with more than one ethernet cable
[23:07] <notroot> I suppose I could just install Desktop and remove the GUI, but that's a pain in the ass
[23:07] <YanGM> what I need to do
[23:08] <kyconquers> I am wanting to get into remote files systems. Is there a application I should look at first?
[23:08] <Danno_> can someone tell me why after installing updates the "system settings" option has disappeared from the programs menu?
[23:08] <blackshirt> yangm, you can connect it
[23:09] <blackshirt> danno_ you have upgraded to unity desktop .. I think
[23:09] <Muelli> notroot: well, you could Ctrl+Alt+F2
[23:09] <Danno_> im on Lubuntu and im using the default lxde desktop, if that helps
[23:09] <YanGM> blackshirt: http://i.imgur.com/yQ4sn.png
[23:09] <notroot> Muelli: ?
[23:09] <Muelli> so it is indeed a "live CD" but w/o an X server...
[23:10] <Muelli> notroot: press Ctrl+Alt+F2 or so when you've booted up the server installation medium.
[23:10] <blackshirt> danno_ usually system settings menu was part of gnome
[23:11] <raido_> anyone here have a problem with xfce loading slowly after running updates
[23:11] <blackshirt> yangm, i'm sit on handheld devices, and can't look at your link given
[23:11] <racsminilaptop> dr_willis> works!!!! now works!... wow! finaly the answer
[23:12] <dr_willis> racsminilaptop:  so for the last 2+ hrs.. you have been trying to get effects going . in the desktop that is designed to not have effects?
[23:13] <YanGM> blackshirt: I want to connect a internet server (firewall+cache) with 4 or 8 gigabit cables to a switch
[23:14] <racsminilaptop> yes!.. what an embarrasing situation... thanks for this IRC!.. thanks dr_willis....
[23:14] <YanGM> so all clients will have sufficient bandwidth
[23:14] <LazerChicken> Hi i just installed ubuntu for the second time and upon inital startup it works fine ... then once i restart my video card stops working and i have to plug into the onboard one ... idk how to install my videocard drivers and it isnt telling me i need to any help?
[23:15] <javierf_> Hi! I've got problems with wireless connection in ubuntu 12.04. My network has WPA protection. Every second day ubuntu can't connect to the new if I don't restart the router
[23:16] <racsminilaptop> I am so glad.... thanks.. bye bye
[23:17] <twitchie> LazerChicken: what video card do you have?
[23:17] <LazerChicken> raedon hd 6450
[23:18] <Danno_> does lubuntu have any kind of on-screen keyboard for use with touchscreens?
[23:19] <twitchie> LazerChicken: have you installed the proprietary driver from the additional drivers section?
[23:19] <LazerChicken> It only tells me to install all the nvidia drivers that are to my onboard card
[23:19] <notroot> well looks like this is gonna be a challenge.  best option so far looks to be decrypting and then reencrypting, which is gonna be a PITA
[23:20] <notroot> or maybe there's a way to just download the server and build an install from the ground up
[23:20] <notroot> btw, the goal is a minimalistic install for use with virtualization software
[23:20] <notroot> all i want is a linux setup capable of running virtualbox or vmware
[23:20] <LazerChicken> i think upon inital install it actually had the option to install the raedon drivers but i restarted and now it isnt seeing it
[23:21] <Muelli> notroot: what about switching the tty with ctrl+alt+f2 during installation with the server CD?
[23:22] <notroot> right now the install is running in a qemu virtual environment so I can install to an image file, and ctrl-alt-f2 is captured by the host not the guest
[23:22] <twitchie> LazerChicken: what's the driver output from this command- lshw -c video
[23:22] <Muelli> notroot: you can send key strokes thruogh qemu
[23:23] <notroot> how?, even in full screen the host is capturing ctrl-alt-f2
[23:23] <LazerChicken> twitch: copy and paste the results here?
[23:23] <LazerChicken> its talking about my onboard
[23:23] <Muelli> notroot: depending on how you started it. If didn't specify a monitor, it'll be on ctrl+alt+2
[23:24] <Muelli> notroot: when in QEMU monitor, you can "sendkeys ctrl+alt+f2" or so
[23:24] <LazerChicken> WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
[23:24] <LazerChicken>   *-display
[23:24] <LazerChicken>        description: VGA compatible controller
[23:24] <LazerChicken>        product: C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430]
[23:24] <LazerChicken>        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[23:24] <LazerChicken>        physical id: d
[23:24] <FloodBot1> LazerChicken: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:27] <notroot> might have figured a trick out
[23:27] <notroot> bbiab
[23:28] <twitchie> LazerChicken: so the ATI is not showing at all?
[23:29] <LazerChicken> I dont guess so? Im nubby to all this ... so i really dont know what im looking at
[23:29] <r00t_> list
[23:29] <Danno_> is there an on-screen keyboard built into Lubuntu or do i need to install a 3rd party program for this?
[23:29] <LazerChicken> all i know is when i did the install i could see thru my correct card ... restart then all i get is choppy screen untill i plug into the other port
[23:31] <LazerChicken> is there a place to go to look at my connected hardware so i can see it it even recognizes it?
[23:31] <ubuntu-studio> czech
[23:31] <AmarokNelg> Did you fix the compiz problem?
[23:32] <peppe__> hi!
[23:33] <peppe__> exit
[23:33] <LazerChicken> twitchie: i have the install disk that came with my card... but it doesnt run it
[23:33] <ladybug> I have questions.. can anyone help?
[23:33] <AmarokNelg> we can
[23:33] <twitchie> LazerChicken: no that disk will have windows binaries
[23:33] <LazerChicken> icic
[23:33] <AmarokNelg> probley mostly they can
[23:33] <nuxwin> hello world
[23:34] <ubuntu-studio> czech ubuntu
[23:34] <ladybug> how can I change rooms/server host?
[23:34] <nuxwin> join i-mscp-dev
[23:34] <marainein> where do i ask for help with X windows?
[23:34] <AmarokNelg> ?!
[23:34] <twitchie> LazerChicken: can you copy and paste your lshw -c video       to paste.ubuntu.com  or pastebin.com and post me the link
[23:35] <LazerChicken> yes sec
[23:36] <AmarokNelg> marainein: try askin here about x11
[23:36] <LazerChicken> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223599/
[23:37] <ladybug> how can I change rooms/server host?
[23:37] <marainein> i've got a toshiba laptop, with what i believe to be a NVIDIA GeForce4 420 Go chipset, that will only give me 8 bit color under x11
[23:37] <ladybug> or is this not an irc program?
[23:38] <LazerChicken> twitchie: now i did plug my card in after i was already booted up because i had unplugged it
[23:38] <LazerChicken> do you think the results would change if i rebooted
[23:39] <twitchie> LazerChicken: no
[23:39] <AmarokNelg> ladybug: duh... this is irc
[23:39] <AmarokNelg> marainein: ehh
[23:39] <ladybug> ok.. then how do I connect to the irc I used to be on?
[23:40] <AmarokNelg> what is the channel?
[23:40] <LazerChicken> twitchie: okie dokie .. and just to be clear i mean i plugged the card into the board ... not the monitor plug :P
[23:40] <ladybug> misfits-irc.irc
[23:41] <ladybug> ther are about 8 chans in there that i am used to
[23:41] <twitchie> LazerChicken: have you tried disabling onboard video via bios?
[23:41] <ladybug> but I can't install windows for some obscene reason.. so I now have ubuntu and have to figure out all new programs
[23:42] <AmarokNelg> ladybug: what? what the heck does that have to do with channels
[23:42] <ladybug> I can't install my normal mirc
[23:42] <LazerChicken> twitchie: no i havent done anything except ask on here lol
[23:42] <AmarokNelg> Server not found
[23:42] <AmarokNelg>       
[23:42] <AmarokNelg>       
[23:42] <AmarokNelg>       
[23:42] <AmarokNelg>       
[23:42] <FloodBot1> AmarokNelg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:43] <LazerChicken> like i said when i installed on the inital boot my correct card was working .. and it showed ati drivers ready to install .. but the updates got done first so i rebooted and thats when i cant see anything
[23:43] <AmarokNelg> ?
[23:44] <snollux> Hello hello. Can someone tell me how best to set up a usergroup for Apache2 and PHP? If (by some weird exploit) someone gets into the HTTP server, I don't want them having root privs or anything
[23:44] <snollux> or access to other documents and files
[23:45] <LazerChicken> twitchie: im about to download this. http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[23:45] <twitchie> LazerChicken: well I find it strange that the ATI card is not listed in your lshw and additional drivers is no longer showing you the option to download the drivers for the card. I would firstly just make sure the card is seated in the slot 100% and if that still doesn't work disbale your onboard video in bios
[23:46] <LazerChicken> if i disable the onboard and then it still doesnt work how will i see anyting then to turn the onboard back on lol also idk how to disable the onboard
[23:50] <twitchie> I would just check to make sure the card is seated right first
[23:51] <LazerChicken> yes.. i just took it out and put it back it .. all seems well there
[23:52] <AmarokNelg> Why did they remove unicrome and ati rage 128 from mesa3d driver?
[23:52] <twitchie> still not showing up ubuntu?
[23:52] <LazerChicken> no :(  in the additional drivers still only ones for my onboard ...
[23:53] <LazerChicken> im going to reboot with the card in and ill brb
[23:54] <hellslinger> Does anyone know how to get cedarview-drm to work with hardware acceleration and glx? Video acceleration appears to work, but glxgears uses 100% cpu
[23:54] <AmarokNelg> I dont see anything wrong with it taking 100% cpu
[23:54] <AmarokNelg> it has to process the gears, doesn't it?
[23:55] <hellslinger> according to the intel pdf on the cedarview driver, glxgears should use less than ~2%
[23:55] <AmarokNelg> Id like to see your document
[23:56] <AmarokNelg> how much fps do you get?
[23:56] <hellslinger> AmarokNelg: http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/enabling_hardware_accelerated_playback_ubuntu_12.pdf
[23:57] <hellslinger> I get ~140 fps
[23:57] <AmarokNelg> thats not bad
[23:58] <hellslinger> Everything else about it works great, but if I can get glx to work faster, I'd love to use desktop effects in KDE