| mikhas | Riddell, can we finally get this into KUbuntu/KDE properly: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265452#c21 -- with all the dependencies packaged, too, so that Kyle can finally enjoy predictive text? | 05:06 |
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| ubottu | KDE bug 265452 in widget-misc "onscreen keyboard with word completion feature" [Wishlist,New] | 05:06 |
| mikhas | shadeslayer, ^ | 05:06 |
| shadeslayer | mikhas: looking | 05:08 |
| shadeslayer | mikhas: iirc Quintasan was looking into maliit | 05:11 |
| mikhas | right | 05:11 |
| mikhas | but I never know what the status is | 05:11 |
| mikhas | because 1. no one updates the bug report, 2. I have no time to do it myself | 05:11 |
| mikhas | (3. I lack the Plasma/KDE specific knowledge for proper integration anyway.) | 05:12 |
| shadeslayer | hm, afaik he did have some updates, but will be away this week because he is moving | 05:25 |
| shadeslayer | I'll remind him to update the bug report | 05:25 |
| shadeslayer | mikhas: emailed him to update the bug report | 05:27 |
| mikhas | thanks! | 05:29 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: oh shadeslayer, where art thou!!? | 05:43 |
| * jussi coughs in shadeslayer's general direction with https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307302 | 05:44 | |
| ubottu | KDE bug 307302 in contactlist "KTP crashed after attempting to edit a wrongly configured account" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 05:44 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: I m able to repeat that bug with no issues. | 05:44 |
| jussi | happens everytime | 05:45 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: heh, I was playing with my really old laptop and my TV :P | 06:02 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: not acceptable, you need to respond to me withing 30 secconds :P :P | 06:02 |
| shadeslayer | saw your mail on the telly | 06:02 |
| shadeslayer | was going through the bt, but the font is a wee bit small | 06:02 |
| jussi | lol | 06:03 |
| shadeslayer | otoh reading planet.kde.org and planet.ubuntu.com is such a pleasure | 06:04 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9p32xopiqmzta5o/IMAG0330.jpg | 06:12 |
| shadeslayer | text is blurry in that pic though | 06:12 |
| jussi | :D | 06:13 |
| shadeslayer | mikhas: the onscreen keyboard on W7 is amazing :O | 06:14 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: picture? | 06:20 |
| shadeslayer | sec | 06:21 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: I can't reproduce your crash | 06:22 |
| shadeslayer | atleast not on 0.5 | 06:23 |
| mikhas | shadeslayer, it is | 06:23 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: you fail | 06:23 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: I can reproduce everytime | 06:23 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 06:23 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: https://www.dropbox.com/s/655z817nnzut1m4/IMAG0331.jpg | 06:23 |
| soee | hi | 06:24 |
| jussi | hi soee | 06:24 |
| soee | software-center ubuntu-desktop - can i remove safely this ? | 06:24 |
| skreech__ | soee: I guess | 06:44 |
| soee | shadeslayer, | 06:59 |
| soee | upgrade 12.04 => 12.10 | 06:59 |
| soee | Could not install 'libjbig0' | 06:59 |
| soee | The upgrade will continue but the 'libjbig0' package may not be in a working state. Please consider submitting a bug report about it. | 06:59 |
| soee | how important is this package ? | 07:00 |
| soee | same with libtiff5 | 07:08 |
| Riddell | soee: how did you upgrade? | 09:20 |
| soee | Riddell, followin the website instructions | 09:20 |
| soee | abyway looks liek apt-get -f install after upgrade solved the problem | 09:21 |
| soee | it install them with :i386 | 09:21 |
| Riddell | those libraries are being transitioned to new versions, I guess that's not complete yet | 09:25 |
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| Riddell | but it'll need to be for this week's beta for sure | 09:25 |
| Riddell | morning Mamarok | 09:25 |
| Mamarok | morning Riddell :) | 09:25 |
| Mamarok | greets from Randa | 09:25 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: legs good enough to travel on? | 09:26 |
| Mamarok | yes, since quite some time, this is 3 months now already | 09:26 |
| Riddell | excellent | 09:26 |
| Mamarok | only thing that will bother me for another year or so is going downstairs, can't do the movement right because of the nuts and bolts inside the leg | 09:27 |
| Tm_Tr | Mamarok: good to hear you're getting better (: | 09:27 |
| Mamarok | Tm_Tr: thanks :) | 09:28 |
| Tm_T | Mamarok: going to UDS? | 09:51 |
| Mamarok | Tm_T: no, as I didn't get sponsored | 09:51 |
| Tm_T | Mamarok: not even Kubuntu-sponsored? | 09:51 |
| Mamarok | Tm_T: I didn't make a request for that as I think the money is better spend on developers | 09:52 |
| Tm_T | roger | 09:53 |
| mah454 | Hello | 10:25 |
| mah454 | KDE have delay login sound ! | 10:26 |
| mah454 | i must wait for some second (10 - 15 S) for hear KDE login Sound ! | 10:26 |
| mah454 | How can fix this problem ? | 10:26 |
| Riddell | mah454: #kubuntu for questions generally | 10:32 |
| mah454 | Riddell: do not answer to my Question ! :( | 10:33 |
| valorie | mah454: this channel isn't for user support, sorry | 10:39 |
| mah454 | ok | 10:40 |
| BluesKaj | HIyas all | 12:44 |
| * Darkwing waves | 12:50 | |
| Riddell | Darkwing: I don't support you remember how to generate the .pot files for kubuntu-docs? | 12:51 |
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| Darkwing | I wrote a script for it... | 13:29 |
| Darkwing | it sould be in /scripts | 13:29 |
| Darkwing | kubuntu-docs/scripts | 13:30 |
| Darkwing | Riddell: ^^ | 13:30 |
| Riddell | yep, got it | 13:31 |
| Darkwing | Sorry, I'm back on mobile for a couple weeks. | 13:34 |
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| ScottK | Anyone have an opinion if these symbol changes are problematic? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/116989540/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-amd64.libdbusmenu-qt_0.9.2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 13:41 |
| debfx | ScottK: they are harmless | 13:50 |
| ScottK | debfx: Thanks. | 13:50 |
| debfx | qt3 removal is only blocked by inguma and lsb :) | 13:51 |
| ScottK | lsb got uploaded though, right? | 13:51 |
| ScottK | And inguma's a removal? | 13:52 |
| debfx | nope, lsd-desktop still depends on qt3 | 13:53 |
| debfx | we should probably file a RM bug for inguma in Debian | 13:53 |
| Riddell | dpm: here's the kubuntu docs as they stand including the .pot files starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-docs_12.10.1.tar.gz | 13:57 |
| Riddell | dpm: are you able to take the .pot files and get them into launchpad? | 13:57 |
| Riddell | or is there another layout I should be giving them to you? | 13:57 |
| dpm | Riddell, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1224552/ | 14:05 |
| dpm | can't seem to be able to download it | 14:05 |
| Riddell | dpm: try now | 14:06 |
| dpm | Riddell, I can open it now, but I can't find the .pot files | 14:07 |
| Riddell | dpm: e.g. kubuntu-docs-12.10.1/docs/hardware/po/kubuntu-docs-hardware.pot ? | 14:07 |
| dpm | actually, I can find them, but I've got a question: | 14:07 |
| Riddell | what's that? | 14:09 |
| dpm | sorry, just a sec, I'm looking at the current 12.04 templates in LP | 14:10 |
| dpm | Riddell, so the templates in the tarball seem to match what's on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/kubuntu-docs (I haven't checked them all, though). So I think the layout is fine. So the questions I've got are only: why do we need to upload them manually (i.e. would an upload to precise-proposed not do?)? Why do we need a .1 update of the templates? | 14:12 |
| Riddell | dpm: kubuntu-docs is now in universe so I don't think it'll appear automatically in launchpad after an upload | 14:13 |
| Riddell | dpm: the .1 is just the version number for the first upload, it's not an update | 14:14 |
| dpm | Riddell, ah, sorry, I was reading 12.04.1, my fault | 14:14 |
| dpm | all clear now | 14:14 |
| dpm | Riddell, we've got a feature to enable universe translations for selected packages in LP. You can simply add the changes required to the package (scroll to the bottom of the page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Universe_Translations_in_LP) and do the upload. Then LP will take care of importing the .pot files. You can have a look at banshee and gnome-panel for packages where we've enabled this feature | 14:17 |
| Riddell | dpm: oh interesting | 14:17 |
| dpm | Riddell, a caveat: bug 1048556 - but I don't think it affects the docs packages, as the translations need to be fetched manually from LP as usual, and are not shipped in the language packs | 14:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1048556 in Launchpad itself "Language pack translations export needs to add universe packages to domain map" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048556 | 14:18 |
| Riddell | dpm: ok I'll just do that | 14:20 |
| dpm | cool | 14:20 |
| dpm | Riddell, let me know when you've done the upload, so that I can accept the templates the first time round in the translations imports queue | 14:20 |
| ScottK | debfx: Sorry. I was confused. I was mis-remembering the alsa-tools upload as lsb. | 14:28 |
| xnox | ScottK: alsa-tools accepted by cjwatson. No lsb upload as far as I can see. | 14:51 |
| xnox | And please cherry-pick a patch from debian to drop qt3 depends in lsb, instead of removing it. | 14:52 |
| * xnox is not familiar with lsb package at all... maybe ask on #ubuntu-devel ?! | 14:52 | |
| Riddell | it's not an upstream source, it's mostly a meta package, not something that can be patched as such | 14:55 |
| Riddell | dpm_: uploaded | 14:55 |
| dpm_ | Riddell, thanks, I'll keep an eye on the imports queue and accept them when I see them | 14:57 |
| Riddell | oh it'll be in unapproved so I don't know when that'll be | 14:58 |
| ScottK | debfx: If you want to go ahead and fix the inguma Recommends in Ubuntu, please do so. Waiting on Debian is probably pointless. | 15:11 |
| ScottK | Removed scim-bridge. | 15:11 |
| ScottK | Upload done for libdbusmenu-qt FTBFS. | 15:37 |
| debfx | ScottK: well the fix would be package removal | 15:58 |
| ScottK | debfx: Oh. I'll do that then, but I thought it just recommended Qt3. Is that wrong? | 15:59 |
| ScottK | Meh. Doing. | 16:05 |
| debfx | ScottK: it could be fixed but the package is obviously unmaintained | 16:06 |
| ScottK | OK. It's gone. | 16:06 |
| debfx | I guess we have to wait for lsb until after the beta release? | 16:09 |
| txwikinger | This amazon ad thing.. is that only a unity thing, or does it have an effect on kubuntu? | 16:12 |
| debfx | no, that's just a unity dash feature (or anti-feature) | 16:19 |
| txwikinger | So it is automatically on if you have unity installed? | 16:19 |
| txwikinger | I mean does it affect anything when you are in kubuntu desktop? | 16:20 |
| txwikinger | oh and also.. I think since I upgraded my kubuntu netbook to quantal, I have a guest login... is that automatically added? | 16:22 |
| ScottK | txwikinger: Yes. We switched to light-dm and it came with that. | 16:23 |
| txwikinger | Well.. Not sure if I like that.. can you disable it? | 16:23 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: yes you can change it in system settings | 16:26 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: amazon feature doesn't touch kubuntu, it's part of unity | 16:26 |
| txwikinger | Ah found it Riddell.. thanks | 16:28 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: how did you upgrade? | 16:30 |
| txwikinger | do-release-upgrade | 16:30 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: groovy, any problems? | 16:30 |
| txwikinger | Interestingly, I did it with both, my netbook and my laptop.. It seems only to be in the netbook | 16:31 |
| txwikinger | Nope not really | 16:31 |
| Riddell | excellent | 16:31 |
| txwikinger | I already had kde4.9 installed anyway | 16:31 |
| txwikinger | So I did not really see a lot of differences | 16:31 |
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| txwikinger | Oh. yeah.. the quassel issue came up again.. Everytime I upgrade, quassel seem to lose the configuration | 16:32 |
| txwikinger | but that seem to be more a quassel than a kubuntu issue | 16:32 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: what all configuration? | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: re bug 1054084, who uploads it? me and then backporters approve? or someone from the backporters team? | 16:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1054084 in Precise Backports "Please backport kmymoney 4.6.3-1 (universe) from quantal" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1054084 | 16:33 |
| txwikinger | the information where to find the core etc | 16:33 |
| txwikinger | Ah.. I see why my laptop is different.. I still run kdm, not lightdm apparently | 16:34 |
| micahg | shadeslayer: normally, the backporter uploads/accepts | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 16:34 |
| * shadeslayer will wait for someone to upload then | 16:34 | |
| * micahg wonders why ScottK just marked it as approved vs doing something with it though | 16:35 | |
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| shadeslayer | !find git-import-dsc | 19:16 |
| ubottu | File git-import-dsc found in git-buildpackage | 19:16 |
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| Saviq | ScottK, hey, if you have time, could you please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/744812/comments/53 for a workaround for the Ubuntu Medium fonts and report back on the FFe bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-font-family-sources/+bug/1048600 | 20:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 744812 in ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal) "FontConfig/Qt stack choke on Ubuntu Medium font meta-data (No medium in Inkscape and too bold in Qt apps)" [High,Confirmed] | 20:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1048600 in ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal) "[FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb" [High,Triaged] | 20:05 |
| Saviq | debfx_, you're probably interested, too | 20:09 |
| highvoltage | is there a policy when application don't have icons? | 20:23 |
| highvoltage | Rocs doesn't have an icon and it looks pretty ugly in the Edubuntu menus | 20:23 |
| highvoltage | would it be ok if we add something that looks more or less appropriate for 13.04 if the upstream authors don't have something yet? | 20:23 |
| highvoltage | or maybe we could at least do a call for submissions on their part and co-ordinate that with them. | 20:24 |
| highvoltage | I think I just answered my own question in part. | 20:24 |
| highvoltage | highvoltage: self-^5! | 20:24 |
| Riddell | highvoltage: add one for 12.10 if you can find one | 20:25 |
| Riddell | it's just like any other "patch", make sure to send it upstream | 20:25 |
| highvoltage | Riddell: it's too late for 12.10 though, isn't it? | 20:26 |
| Riddell | highvoltage: it's a bug fix, I'd be all for it | 20:26 |
| Riddell | Saviq: ah excellent | 20:27 |
| highvoltage | Riddell: ok great, perhaps I could whip something together that looks almost like the one on the wikipedia page on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory | 20:27 |
| highvoltage | hmm, maybe I could even make the graph spell an "R" | 20:28 |
| Riddell | highvoltage: I think graphics/icon.svg is intended to be the icon | 20:29 |
| highvoltage | ah! it wasn't there when I looked a few months ago | 20:29 |
| Riddell | Saviq: I'm thinking report it upstream then just throw it in the ubuntu package | 20:32 |
| Saviq | Riddell, I think it's more or less reported upstream, but that patch won't get upstream | 20:32 |
| Riddell | Saviq: why not? | 20:33 |
| Saviq | Riddell, 'cause it's a workaround | 20:33 |
| Saviq | https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-25814 | 20:33 |
| Saviq | https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-27301 | 20:33 |
| Saviq | the real issue is that Qt only has 5 weights, whereas the "industry standard" is 8 | 20:34 |
| Saviq | so the real fix would be to implement the 8 weights in QFont | 20:34 |
| Saviq | but that requires digging in all the backends / platforms | 20:34 |
| Saviq | Riddell, unless you think that workaround could get upstream as a temporary measure | 20:36 |
| highvoltage | Riddell: so, adding "graphics/icon.svg usr/share/icons/Rocs.svg" will fix that, any objections against doing it like that? | 20:37 |
| Riddell | highvoltage: yeah that's fine I guess, might be an idea to check if there's a bug upstream to do it properly | 20:38 |
| highvoltage | ok | 20:39 |
| sladen | Saviq: it doesn't necessaryily require "digging in all the backends" The enum is being used to generate a value 0..100 (in the case of Qt); it's the granularity of that value into buckets on the backend that is sub-optimal (wrong) in the case of FC as the backend | 20:42 |
| sladen | There's a few issue. (a) a Typo x2. (b) asking for MEDIUM from FC, not REGULAR. (c) the bucket mapping to/from. This patch tries to fix the first two, and workaround the third without breaking the API. And in the other half of the #if/#else provides a more thorough end solution for (c) | 20:44 |
| ScottK | micahg: What busy. | 20:49 |
| ScottK | Saviq: What's the upstream status of your Qt patch. Did you ask to have it reviewed? | 20:50 |
| Saviq | sladen, yeah, that's true, backends could be fixed on a case-by-case basis | 20:50 |
| * ScottK finished reading the backscroll. | 20:51 | |
| Saviq | ScottK, not really, no, never intended that to get upstream in that form | 20:51 |
| ScottK | Not in favor of distro unique 'work arounds' that have no hope of going away. | 20:51 |
| sladen | ScottK: anyone in particular? or just git blame the original author (even if we're only going to distro ship it for this cycle) | 20:51 |
| ScottK | sladen: Why just for this cycle? | 20:52 |
| ScottK | Unless someone's volunteering to write the correct fix, there's no reason to think it won't be indefinite. | 20:52 |
| sladen | ScottK: so that we can get the Enum expanded upstream for Qt 5.1 | 20:52 |
| sladen | ScottK: the fix is already in that patch, behind #if/#else // Uncomment this after the API + Enum is fixed | 20:53 |
| ScottK | It'll be a lot more than one cycle before Qt 5.1 is the default Qt for anything. | 20:53 |
| sladen | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/744812/+attachment/3335804/+files/fix_medium_font.diff <-- | 20:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 744812 in ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal) "FontConfig/Qt stack choke on Ubuntu Medium font meta-data (No medium in Inkscape and too bold in Qt apps)" [High,Confirmed] | 20:54 |
| sladen | ScottK: I can add more commentage to the patch if it's useful | 20:55 |
| * ScottK has to go. Be back later. | 20:55 | |
| ScottK | I think more about how we get out of this mess is more imporant. | 20:55 |
| highvoltage | ### debian_qt_kde.mk can only be used with packages (originally) maintained by | 20:55 |
| highvoltage | ### Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers, please read /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/README | 20:55 |
| highvoltage | does that mean I should let one of you guys get this? | 20:55 |
| Saviq | sladen, I'll put that patch and more info on the QTBUG | 20:55 |
| highvoltage | (filed on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rocs/+bug/1055769 , btw) | 20:56 |
| Saviq | hoping for someone to review it | 20:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1055769 in rocs (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Rocs icon not installed by default" [Medium,Confirmed] | 20:56 |
| Riddell | highvoltage: no we're not precious, go ahead | 21:00 |
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| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1024402] Text cursor in wrong cell in calligrawords @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1024402 (by Jonathan Riddell) | 21:19 |
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