| jyc_ | hello, does anyone here use the fglrx (proprietary ATI radeon) driver, and if so, do you have problems with updates in lubuntu? | 03:23 |
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| holstein | i have had problems | 03:23 |
| holstein | not in linux... not isolated to lubuntu | 03:23 |
| holstein | some hareware is problematic | 03:23 |
| jyc_ | holstein: oh, I see. how hard is it normally to resolve fglrx problems in lubuntu? | 03:23 |
| holstein | jyc_: nothing about ubuntu, linux or lubuntu is keeping ati from resolving those issues | 03:25 |
| holstein | jyc_: im not a gamer, so i have more relaxed standards | 03:25 |
| jyc_ | holstein: wait, that's not what I'm asking about, I'm just asking about how easy it's been for you, as an end-user | 03:25 |
| jyc_ | I'm not a gamer either, but I want to know if it's difficult to resolve problems with fglrx when they arrive | 03:26 |
| holstein | jyc_: they works how they work... i dont resolve anything | 03:26 |
| jyc_ | in debian I've had to manually re-install fglrx with each kernel update, so I'm hoping ubuntu will be easier | 03:26 |
| jyc_ | holstein: so you've never had problems? | 03:26 |
| holstein | jyc_: yes.. lots | 03:26 |
| ramprasadgk1 | can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu | 03:26 |
| ramprasadgk1 | can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu | 03:27 |
| jyc_ | holstein: what I mean by resolve, is when the problem happens, how hard is it normally to fix it? I'm sorry if I wasn't clear | 03:27 |
| holstein | jyc_: but the proprietary blob gets reinstalled when you upgrade the knernel | 03:27 |
| jyc_ | oh, that normally works well? | 03:27 |
| holstein | jyc_: that works every time | 03:27 |
| holstein | jyc_: i dont resolve.. i just deal, or move to the vesa driver... or change hardware | 03:27 |
| holstein | theres really no way to resovle the performance issues | 03:28 |
| jyc_ | oh | 03:28 |
| jyc_ | I'm still not sure what you mean (I don't really care about the performance issues), but thanks for your help | 03:28 |
| jyc_ | I'll just try install fglrx and see how it goes, thanks! | 03:28 |
| holstein | sure.. it'll just roll up on the kernel upgraes | 03:28 |
| holstein | upgrades* | 03:28 |
| holstein | sorry i havent been clear | 03:28 |
| holstein | maybe you want to know waht issues? like full screen video playback | 03:29 |
| jyc_ | oh no, just stuff like upgrading and basic functionality | 03:29 |
| holstein | screen artifacts | 03:29 |
| jyc_ | oh | 03:29 |
| jyc_ | there are problems with those? | 03:29 |
| holstein | resolution issues | 03:29 |
| holstein | jyc_: depends on the hardware support | 03:29 |
| ramprasadgk1 | can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu | 03:29 |
| holstein | and we cant provide that support... we meaning linux in general | 03:29 |
| jyc_ | hm, in that case I will still try and see how it goes :) I understand it's on ATI's part to fix their proprietary drivers. thanks once again | 03:30 |
| holstein | how do i deal? i usually try the open driver, the proprietary one, and vesa | 03:30 |
| ramprasadgk1 | can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu | 03:30 |
| holstein | sometimes, its just "out of the box" easy... | 03:30 |
| ramprasadgk1 | can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu | 03:30 |
| holstein | ramprasadgk1: you can just post once | 03:30 |
| jyc_ | ramprasadgk1: don't people just normally use vlc or mplayer? | 03:30 |
| ramprasadgk1 | vlc i sheavyweight | 03:31 |
| holstein | ramprasadgk1: i like VLC | 03:31 |
| ramprasadgk1 | i need simple lightweight | 03:31 |
| holstein | theres a commandline version.. clvc | 03:31 |
| ramprasadgk1 | i have vlc too but it is pretty low on my 128 ram lubuntu | 03:31 |
| holstein | audacious is lite | 03:31 |
| ramprasadgk1 | audacious plays anything .. like vlc? | 03:31 |
| holstein | ramprasadgk1: i would expect a hit in functionality | 03:32 |
| ramprasadgk1 | means | 03:32 |
| ramprasadgk1 | as long as it plays evrything like .avi vob files | 03:32 |
| ramprasadgk1 | i am fine | 03:32 |
| holstein | ramprasadgk1: i dont know if it does... VLC does, and i use it.. im confortable with the use of sysytem resources compared to functionality | 03:33 |
| ramprasadgk1 | and alos my firefox goes for a toss when i start playing video on Utube | 03:33 |
| holstein | ramprasadgk1: audacious is an audio player | 03:33 |
| ramprasadgk1 | oh | 03:33 |
| ramprasadgk1 | so vlc is best i believe | 03:33 |
| holstein | ramprasadgk1: i would look at troubleshooting flash for the youtube issues... | 03:33 |
| ramprasadgk1 | i had vlc for 2 reasons 1) it plays everything 2) i can stram youtube videos and save in local | 03:34 |
| ramprasadgk1 | oh yeah flash sucks | 03:34 |
| ramprasadgk1 | what do i troubleshoot in flash i got it from ubuntu software center | 03:35 |
| holstein | ramprasadgk1: on a 32bit system, i usually suggest trying the chrome browser, since it ships its own flash included.. then you'll know if its flash or firefox... | 03:36 |
| holstein | i usually add the "stable" firefox ppa | 03:36 |
| ramprasadgk1 | where can i find that ppa | 03:37 |
| ramprasadgk1 | pls let me know | 03:37 |
| ramprasadgk1 | i dont like chrome simply because i love ff | 03:37 |
| ramprasadgk1 | and dont want to change | 03:37 |
| holstein | ramprasadgk1: im nost suggestion you change.. im suggesting chrome as a troubleshooting step.. you install, all is good, you learn something | 03:38 |
| holstein | actually the firefox ppa's are abandonded.. you'll just get the latest upgrades is what i read | 03:39 |
| ramprasadgk1 | 'ok | 03:39 |
| bioterror | holstein, MOC! | 04:06 |
| bioterror | holstein, it plays even SID's | 04:06 |
| tareef_ | hi am form Arab country ... so am sorry for my English | 07:01 |
| tareef_ | i have a problem with Lxkeymap | 07:01 |
| tareef_ | am add the arabic layout with this command in terminal | 07:02 |
| tareef_ | mkdir -p ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/ echo '@setxkbmap us,ar -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle"' >> ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart setxkbmap us,ar -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle" | 07:02 |
| tareef_ | i have the arabic layout | 07:03 |
| tareef_ | but i need every login to Lubuntu | 07:04 |
| tareef_ | to run this command again : setxkbmap us,ar -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle" | 07:05 |
| tareef_ | to enable : alt+shift key to change between them | 07:05 |
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| Danno_ | are there any good on screen keyboards that work at the login screen? ive tried onboard but it doesnt work at login and it doesnt seem to have a lot of non alphabet characters | 12:30 |
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| leszek | hi | 13:46 |
| LuvLinuxOS | hi all | 13:47 |
| holstein | bioterror: i should have suggested MOC, but i assumed a GUI was needed after clvc was not going to work | 14:05 |
| derpson | hi | 14:20 |
| bioterror | holstein, probably. but I trust in MOC ;) | 14:22 |
| bioterror | derpson, hi | 14:22 |
| bioterror | holstein, I always try some GUI stuff, but after all I end up back to MOC | 14:23 |
| entity999 | Hello, my friend have lubuntu, but he don't have fmod, sound lib for many games, in his repos... I don't want to break his dependencies :) What should he add? | 14:36 |
| derpson | is anyone of you using lubuntu on a lenovo x230? | 14:38 |
| bioterror | derpson, too new hardware :-) | 14:38 |
| bioterror | we are mostly scraping from dumpster our hardware | 14:38 |
| derpson | can hardware ever be too new :-D | 14:38 |
| bioterror | entity999, maybe this: http://wiki.debian.org/FMOD | 14:39 |
| entity999 | ahh... it will be hard to help him get through this | 14:39 |
| entity999 | he's kind of... newb, and we only have communication via broken english | 14:40 |
| bioterror | those are called "challenges" :-) | 14:40 |
| entity999 | haha :) | 14:41 |
| entity999 | well, I guess there's no debs | 14:41 |
| entity999 | thank you... | 14:41 |
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| mrjobs | hello | 19:41 |
| mrjobs | WOuld Lubuntu run well on 512 mB ram | 19:41 |
| mrjobs | 2.1 ghz single core? | 19:41 |
| bioterror | I've seen people it running on systems with lower specs | 19:42 |
| mrjobs | oh | 19:42 |
| mrjobs | WOuld it run well? | 19:42 |
| mrjobs | It has NVIIDA fx 5200 | 19:42 |
| bioterror | more RAM would not hurt | 19:42 |
| bioterror | but it will run | 19:42 |
| mrjobs | Would Skype work fine? | 19:43 |
| bioterror | no | 19:43 |
| mrjobs | why? | 19:44 |
| bioterror | it does not run fine, 20% of problems mentioned here are skype related :D | 19:44 |
| bioterror | and why? becouse skype is propietary software | 19:44 |
| mrjobs | wow | 19:44 |
| mrjobs | oh | 19:44 |
| tweakster | hi. I am doing an installation of Lubuntu from ISO on a desktop machine at home with two disks, one of which is empty and the other of which has Windows installed on sda1, a different Linux OS on sda2, sda3 and swap on sda4, and Grub is already installed on sda. I can see that it now wants to install its bootloader on sdb; however, I want it to put it on sda and overwrite the existing Grub if possible. Furthermore, I want t | 19:44 |
| mrjobs | where's the start button for Lubuntu? | 19:45 |
| mrjobs | the menu? | 19:45 |
| bioterror | tweakster, you can always install it on sda afterwards | 19:46 |
| bioterror | mrjobs, bottom left? | 19:46 |
| mrjobs | Not for me | 19:46 |
| mrjobs | I'm on a VM | 19:46 |
| tweakster | how does that all sound so far? | 19:47 |
| tweakster | did everything i sent show up? | 19:47 |
| bioterror | tweakster, no. your client do not understand the word limit of one line | 19:47 |
| bioterror | and continue the story on another line | 19:47 |
| mrjobs | it works | 19:48 |
| bioterror | "erwrite the existing Grub if possible. Furthermore, I want t" | 19:48 |
| tweakster | Furthermore, I want the other Linux overwritten and Lubuntu installed in its place with the same partitions and mount points. It seems to me that I should simply redefine sda2 and sda3 with mount points and formatting, leave sda4 swap as it is. If I tell the current installation program to put its bootloader on sda, not sdb, will it still recognize the separate Windows partition? | 19:48 |
| tweakster | does that all sound right? | 19:52 |
| bioterror | yes | 19:53 |
| bioterror | you take manual installation | 19:53 |
| bioterror | and you just over write the partitions | 19:53 |
| tweakster | yes | 19:53 |
| bioterror | it's not rocket science | 19:53 |
| bioterror | you dont even have to touch the swap partition | 19:53 |
| tweakster | as i said | 19:53 |
| tweakster | thanks for the input, bioterror | 19:54 |
| tweakster | i think | 19:54 |
| tweakster | :) | 19:54 |
| tweakster | well my installation of Lubuntu seems to have gone well enough. i'm glad of that. is it normal for the cursor to appear continuously busy rotating afterwards? perhaps a reboot cures that? | 20:48 |
| bioterror | no, it's not normal | 20:51 |
| bioterror | but give reboot a shot | 20:51 |
| tweakster | i do like the LXDE interface for sure, and the response is crisp too, despite the older machine and limited RAM. I chose this OS for that reason primarily, and so far I am not disappointed. | 20:51 |
| tweakster | I may put the 64-bit version of it into a small VM on my laptop,too, at least for a while so that I can have it handy for practice, etc. | 20:53 |
| tweakster | well, hey, cross your fingers on this reboot! | 20:54 |
| tweakster | well, crud. it appears to have failed with getting Grub loaded right because I am getting a message saying "Missing Operating System". | 20:58 |
| bioterror | tweakster, it's easy to fix | 20:59 |
| bioterror | !grubrescue | 20:59 |
| bioterror | !grubrepair | 20:59 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) | 20:59 |
| bioterror | \o/ | 21:00 |
| tweakster | so this would have installed Grub 2 if anything? | 21:01 |
| bioterror | yes | 21:01 |
| bioterror | oh darn | 21:01 |
| bioterror | hups :-) | 21:01 |
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| tweakster | bioterror, are you saying that i need to create a Grub rescue floppy and boot it now? Hopefully, it will see what is on the disk and install Grub correctly at this point. Is that what you are suggesting? | 21:02 |
| bioterror | no | 21:02 |
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| bioterror | you can use your installation media | 21:03 |
| tweakster | again | 21:03 |
| bioterror | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair | 21:03 |
| bioterror | install that | 21:03 |
| bioterror | and hopefully it will fix it for you | 21:03 |
| bioterror | otherwise I might have to guide you to chroot into your system and run grub-install :-) | 21:04 |
| bioterror | tweakster, better be good news! | 21:14 |
| tweakster | bioterror: i am reading the information on Boot-Repair and creating a CD. the problem is on another machine, as you might have surmised. | 21:16 |
| bioterror | tweakster, you can use the same CD | 21:17 |
| bioterror | as you used for the installation | 21:17 |
| bioterror | you just add PPA and you install it | 21:17 |
| bioterror | unless you used alternate CD | 21:18 |
| bioterror | :-) | 21:18 |
| tweakster | bioterror, i used the x86 desktop CD download here: http://lubuntu.net/ | 21:21 |
| tweakster | where do i now find the PPA to install, which you mentioned above, bioterror? | 21:22 |
| bioterror | in that boot-repair guide | 21:22 |
| tweakster | bioterror, it is downloading and installing now. | 21:26 |
| tweakster | it appears to be scanning my system at this point | 21:33 |
| tweakster | i am going to select Recommended Repair as the guide suggests now. | 21:34 |
| tweakster | It says it is purging and repairing Grub on sdb2. That sure is not where I had told it to install initially. | 21:37 |
| bioterror | hmmmm | 21:37 |
| bioterror | I have to hit the bed | 21:37 |
| bioterror | with advanced you can force it sda? | 21:38 |
| bioterror | "place grub to sda2 | 21:38 |
| bioterror | or something that | 21:38 |
| tweakster | it want me now to enable a repository containing the Linux packages in the sofware sources of Ubutu 12.04 LTS (sdb2). Then try again. | 21:39 |
| tweakster | what does that mean exactly? | 21:40 |
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| tweakster | i sure hate when that happens. :( | 22:02 |
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| Danno_ | is there any way to make ubuntu treat a long press on the touchscreen as a right click? | 23:48 |
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