[03:23] hello, does anyone here use the fglrx (proprietary ATI radeon) driver, and if so, do you have problems with updates in lubuntu? [03:23] i have had problems [03:23] not in linux... not isolated to lubuntu [03:23] some hareware is problematic [03:23] holstein: oh, I see. how hard is it normally to resolve fglrx problems in lubuntu? [03:25] jyc_: nothing about ubuntu, linux or lubuntu is keeping ati from resolving those issues [03:25] jyc_: im not a gamer, so i have more relaxed standards [03:25] holstein: wait, that's not what I'm asking about, I'm just asking about how easy it's been for you, as an end-user [03:26] I'm not a gamer either, but I want to know if it's difficult to resolve problems with fglrx when they arrive [03:26] jyc_: they works how they work... i dont resolve anything [03:26] in debian I've had to manually re-install fglrx with each kernel update, so I'm hoping ubuntu will be easier [03:26] holstein: so you've never had problems? [03:26] jyc_: yes.. lots [03:26] can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu [03:27] can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu [03:27] holstein: what I mean by resolve, is when the problem happens, how hard is it normally to fix it? I'm sorry if I wasn't clear [03:27] jyc_: but the proprietary blob gets reinstalled when you upgrade the knernel [03:27] oh, that normally works well? [03:27] jyc_: that works every time [03:27] jyc_: i dont resolve.. i just deal, or move to the vesa driver... or change hardware [03:28] theres really no way to resovle the performance issues [03:28] oh [03:28] I'm still not sure what you mean (I don't really care about the performance issues), but thanks for your help [03:28] I'll just try install fglrx and see how it goes, thanks! [03:28] sure.. it'll just roll up on the kernel upgraes [03:28] upgrades* [03:28] sorry i havent been clear [03:29] maybe you want to know waht issues? like full screen video playback [03:29] oh no, just stuff like upgrading and basic functionality [03:29] screen artifacts [03:29] oh [03:29] there are problems with those? [03:29] resolution issues [03:29] jyc_: depends on the hardware support [03:29] can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu [03:29] and we cant provide that support... we meaning linux in general [03:30] hm, in that case I will still try and see how it goes :) I understand it's on ATI's part to fix their proprietary drivers. thanks once again [03:30] how do i deal? i usually try the open driver, the proprietary one, and vesa [03:30] can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu [03:30] sometimes, its just "out of the box" easy... [03:30] can i know frm all legends here what is the best lightweight music player for my 128 MB ram installed lubunntu [03:30] ramprasadgk1: you can just post once [03:30] ramprasadgk1: don't people just normally use vlc or mplayer? [03:31] vlc i sheavyweight [03:31] ramprasadgk1: i like VLC [03:31] i need simple lightweight [03:31] theres a commandline version.. clvc [03:31] i have vlc too but it is pretty low on my 128 ram lubuntu [03:31] audacious is lite [03:31] audacious plays anything .. like vlc? [03:32] ramprasadgk1: i would expect a hit in functionality [03:32] means [03:32] as long as it plays evrything like .avi vob files [03:32] i am fine [03:33] ramprasadgk1: i dont know if it does... VLC does, and i use it.. im confortable with the use of sysytem resources compared to functionality [03:33] and alos my firefox goes for a toss when i start playing video on Utube [03:33] ramprasadgk1: audacious is an audio player [03:33] oh [03:33] so vlc is best i believe [03:33] ramprasadgk1: i would look at troubleshooting flash for the youtube issues... [03:34] i had vlc for 2 reasons 1) it plays everything 2) i can stram youtube videos and save in local [03:34] oh yeah flash sucks [03:35] what do i troubleshoot in flash i got it from ubuntu software center [03:36] ramprasadgk1: on a 32bit system, i usually suggest trying the chrome browser, since it ships its own flash included.. then you'll know if its flash or firefox... [03:36] i usually add the "stable" firefox ppa [03:37] where can i find that ppa [03:37] pls let me know [03:37] i dont like chrome simply because i love ff [03:37] and dont want to change [03:38] ramprasadgk1: im nost suggestion you change.. im suggesting chrome as a troubleshooting step.. you install, all is good, you learn something [03:39] actually the firefox ppa's are abandonded.. you'll just get the latest upgrades is what i read [03:39] 'ok [04:06] holstein, MOC! [04:06] holstein, it plays even SID's [07:01] hi am form Arab country ... so am sorry for my English [07:01] i have a problem with Lxkeymap [07:02] am add the arabic layout with this command in terminal [07:02] mkdir -p ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/ echo '@setxkbmap us,ar -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle"' >> ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart setxkbmap us,ar -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle" [07:03] i have the arabic layout [07:04] but i need every login to Lubuntu [07:05] to run this command again : setxkbmap us,ar -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle" [07:05] to enable : alt+shift key to change between them === BWMerlin1 is now known as BWMerlin [12:30] are there any good on screen keyboards that work at the login screen? ive tried onboard but it doesnt work at login and it doesnt seem to have a lot of non alphabet characters === IboS_ is now known as IboS [13:46] hi [13:47] hi all [14:05] bioterror: i should have suggested MOC, but i assumed a GUI was needed after clvc was not going to work [14:20] hi [14:22] holstein, probably. but I trust in MOC ;) [14:22] derpson, hi [14:23] holstein, I always try some GUI stuff, but after all I end up back to MOC [14:36] Hello, my friend have lubuntu, but he don't have fmod, sound lib for many games, in his repos... I don't want to break his dependencies :) What should he add? [14:38] is anyone of you using lubuntu on a lenovo x230? [14:38] derpson, too new hardware :-) [14:38] we are mostly scraping from dumpster our hardware [14:38] can hardware ever be too new :-D [14:39] entity999, maybe this: http://wiki.debian.org/FMOD [14:39] ahh... it will be hard to help him get through this [14:40] he's kind of... newb, and we only have communication via broken english [14:40] those are called "challenges" :-) [14:41] haha :) [14:41] well, I guess there's no debs [14:41] thank you... === Pici is now known as Guest97343 === Guest97343 is now known as Pici [19:41] hello [19:41] WOuld Lubuntu run well on 512 mB ram [19:41] 2.1 ghz single core? [19:42] I've seen people it running on systems with lower specs [19:42] oh [19:42] WOuld it run well? [19:42] It has NVIIDA fx 5200 [19:42] more RAM would not hurt [19:42] but it will run [19:43] Would Skype work fine? [19:43] no [19:44] why? [19:44] it does not run fine, 20% of problems mentioned here are skype related :D [19:44] and why? becouse skype is propietary software [19:44] wow [19:44] oh [19:44] hi. I am doing an installation of Lubuntu from ISO on a desktop machine at home with two disks, one of which is empty and the other of which has Windows installed on sda1, a different Linux OS on sda2, sda3 and swap on sda4, and Grub is already installed on sda. I can see that it now wants to install its bootloader on sdb; however, I want it to put it on sda and overwrite the existing Grub if possible. Furthermore, I want t [19:45] where's the start button for Lubuntu? [19:45] the menu? [19:46] tweakster, you can always install it on sda afterwards [19:46] mrjobs, bottom left? [19:46] Not for me [19:46] I'm on a VM [19:47] how does that all sound so far? [19:47] did everything i sent show up? [19:47] tweakster, no. your client do not understand the word limit of one line [19:47] and continue the story on another line [19:48] it works [19:48] "erwrite the existing Grub if possible. Furthermore, I want t" [19:48] Furthermore, I want the other Linux overwritten and Lubuntu installed in its place with the same partitions and mount points. It seems to me that I should simply redefine sda2 and sda3 with mount points and formatting, leave sda4 swap as it is. If I tell the current installation program to put its bootloader on sda, not sdb, will it still recognize the separate Windows partition? [19:52] does that all sound right? [19:53] yes [19:53] you take manual installation [19:53] and you just over write the partitions [19:53] yes [19:53] it's not rocket science [19:53] you dont even have to touch the swap partition [19:53] as i said [19:54] thanks for the input, bioterror [19:54] i think [19:54] :) [20:48] well my installation of Lubuntu seems to have gone well enough. i'm glad of that. is it normal for the cursor to appear continuously busy rotating afterwards? perhaps a reboot cures that? [20:51] no, it's not normal [20:51] but give reboot a shot [20:51] i do like the LXDE interface for sure, and the response is crisp too, despite the older machine and limited RAM. I chose this OS for that reason primarily, and so far I am not disappointed. [20:53] I may put the 64-bit version of it into a small VM on my laptop,too, at least for a while so that I can have it handy for practice, etc. [20:54] well, hey, cross your fingers on this reboot! [20:58] well, crud. it appears to have failed with getting Grub loaded right because I am getting a message saying "Missing Operating System". [20:59] tweakster, it's easy to fix [20:59] !grubrescue [20:59] !grubrepair [20:59] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [21:00] \o/ [21:01] so this would have installed Grub 2 if anything? [21:01] yes [21:01] oh darn [21:01] hups :-) === TheDrums_ is now known as TheDrums [21:02] bioterror, are you saying that i need to create a Grub rescue floppy and boot it now? Hopefully, it will see what is on the disk and install Grub correctly at this point. Is that what you are suggesting? [21:02] no === micahg_ is now known as micahg [21:03] you can use your installation media [21:03] again [21:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [21:03] install that [21:03] and hopefully it will fix it for you [21:04] otherwise I might have to guide you to chroot into your system and run grub-install :-) [21:14] tweakster, better be good news! [21:16] bioterror: i am reading the information on Boot-Repair and creating a CD. the problem is on another machine, as you might have surmised. [21:17] tweakster, you can use the same CD [21:17] as you used for the installation [21:17] you just add PPA and you install it [21:18] unless you used alternate CD [21:18] :-) [21:21] bioterror, i used the x86 desktop CD download here: http://lubuntu.net/ [21:22] where do i now find the PPA to install, which you mentioned above, bioterror? [21:22] in that boot-repair guide [21:26] bioterror, it is downloading and installing now. [21:33] it appears to be scanning my system at this point [21:34] i am going to select Recommended Repair as the guide suggests now. [21:37] It says it is purging and repairing Grub on sdb2. That sure is not where I had told it to install initially. [21:37] hmmmm [21:37] I have to hit the bed [21:38] with advanced you can force it sda? [21:38] "place grub to sda2 [21:38] or something that [21:39] it want me now to enable a repository containing the Linux packages in the sofware sources of Ubutu 12.04 LTS (sdb2). Then try again. [21:40] what does that mean exactly? === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === szczur_ is now known as szczur [22:02] i sure hate when that happens. :( === mkv is now known as m4v === wxl_ is now known as wxl === wxl_ is now known as wxl [23:48] is there any way to make ubuntu treat a long press on the touchscreen as a right click?