[00:10] <|Anthony|> what is happening regarding consolekit and udev having been merged into systemd?
[01:03] <bjsnider> |Anthony|, you might want to ask that in #ubuntu-devel
[01:03] <|Anthony|> i have
[01:03] <|Anthony|> crickets**
[01:04] <|Anthony|> lol
[01:04] <bjsnider> and not on a sunday when everybody is at the bars getting smashed
[01:04] <|Anthony|> ha
[01:04] <bjsnider> i mean home spending time with their families
[01:04] <|Anthony|> i've popped in a couple times to ask
[01:04] <bjsnider> whatever floats your boat
[01:04] <|Anthony|> lol
[01:05] <bjsnider> you could also post a question to a ml, or read a ml
[01:05] <|Anthony|> i see that the ck package is in quantal
[01:05] <|Anthony|> i've never really gotten familiar with the mailing lists
[01:06] <|Anthony|> suppose i ought to
[01:07] <bjsnider> the developers summits are where those decisions are made
[01:07] <|Anthony|> mmm
[01:07] <|Anthony|> writing udev rules atm in an attempt to get multiseat working
[01:08] <|Anthony|> only thing i haven't been able to do is get audio routed to the seats
[01:08] <|Anthony|> turns out that it is an ACL thing with consolekit
[01:09] <|Anthony|> following advice from #pulseaudio i'm writing the rules as described but it got me wondering about the future of ck and udev
[01:09] <|Anthony|> since they've both been depreciated and absorbed
[05:40] <smj> is anyone having problems with Make?
[05:40] <smj> nevermind
[08:18] <xut_> my asus screen goes black just before i can log in
[08:18] <xut_> anyone any ideas?
[09:29] <BebopSteve> Hi there, which release is using the new display server, I think it was called Weyland?  I'm curious about what benefits it has over x
[09:30] <graingert_ufo> BebopSteve: 13.04 if not 13.10
[09:30] <graingert_ufo> Wayland
[09:31] <graingert_ufo> anyone know where to see log files for indicator-messages I asked when I was on windows and can't find the log files
[09:32] <BebopSteve> Are there any articles out there with demos?  All I have seen so far it a page of text
[09:32] <BebopSteve> is*
[09:57] <C-S-B> Do you know of any issue with reboots just not happening? I dont have my laptop with me currently, but every reboot is failing.
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: tried:  sudo shutdown -r now
[10:20] <brendand> C-S-B, system isn't shutting down fully?
[10:21] <brendand> that can definitely happen
[10:37] <varikonniemi> hello, does the 12.10 beta installer have mdadm raid partitioning support?
[10:37] <varikonniemi> or how am i supposed to set up a raid1 when alternate was removed
[11:00] <varikonniemi> well, i could not even find that one out myself since the live usb hangs at boot right after the ubuntu logo is shown, full screen is covered in black and white bars with random rgb colored pixels lit
[11:02] <varikonniemi> will download the daily build, if it also fails i will see if i can supply a bug report
[11:09] <varikonniemi> http://imgur.com/cdw3P this is what it looks like
[12:00] <varikonniemi> ok, the problem is not ubuntu as it happens with kubuntu 12.10 beta also
[12:44] <BluesKaj> HIyas all
[13:21] <sleepycat> I'm running 12.10 and just noticed that the terminal shortcut (ctrl+alt+t) no longer works. Noticed it after updating last night. What package is responsible for that sort of thing?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> sleepycat: compiz I believe
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> sleepycat: if you use terminal a lot I can suggest you install guake
[13:23]  * ActionParsnip thinks guake should be in a default install
[13:29] <philinux> Anyone know if myunity will re-appear anytime? It got deleted 10th sep.
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> !info myunity quantal
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> weird
[13:31] <jokerdino> it was removed from the repo a while ago
[13:31] <jokerdino> let me check in a sec
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Deleted in quantal-release on 2012-09-10 (Reason: does not work for current unity any more (gsettings), hol...)
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/myunity/+changelog
[13:37] <sleepycat> Mysterious.
[13:42] <philinux> ActionParsnip: yep I thought it would get fixed not removed seeing as its the official tweaker
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> philinux: could use ubuntu-tweak
[13:47] <philinux> ActionParsnip: yes thats the alternative. I was just surprised at the removal rather that bug fix
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> philinux: i guess, not something I've used
[13:50] <jbicha> if it gets fixed, I believe we'll gladly add it back
[13:51] <jbicha> neither of those two are "official"
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> does the job though
[13:52] <AaronCampbell> Is there something in 12.10 that is keeping icons from showing up in th etaskbar?
[13:53] <AaronCampbell> I'm on a fresh install, and neither XChat nor Skype seem to be able to put their icons up there.
[13:55] <AaronCampbell> s/th etaskbar/the system tray/
[13:57] <philinux> jbicha: cheers. It gets touted as official in some places
[14:36] <jml> I don't see any icons on my desktop any more (quantal), despite having files in ~/Desktop.
[14:36] <jml> what's up with that?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> jml: press ALT+F2 and run: nautilus -q
[14:38] <jml> ActionParsnip: no joy
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> jml: try:   nautilus on it's own
[14:38] <jml> ActionParsnip: just opens my home folder
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> jml: nautilus draws the icons on the desktop too
[14:40] <jml> ActionParsnip: Even so, the icons on my desktop are still not there.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> jml: tried logging off and on?
[14:44] <jml> ActionParsnip: I've rebooted about a dozen times for other reasons.
[15:29] <AaronCampbell> I tried "gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"" to allow icons in the panel (like Skype)
[15:30] <AaronCampbell> That's all I remember having to do in 12.04.  Am I missing something or did it change in 12.10?
[15:40] <AaronCampbell> The weird thing is, in dconf editor I don't have desktop->unity->panel
[15:57] <AaronCampbell> It seems the icon is showing now, but only on the main screen (even though the panel is showing on all 4 screens)  Other icons like dropbox and clipit seem to work fine, so I assume it's a Skype and XChat issue?
[16:25] <AaronCampbell> I was able to get the Skype icon to show everywhere by removing the Skype package that I had downloaded, adding the partners repo, and installing from there.
[16:26] <AaronCampbell> However, the sound issue I was having seems to be with both.  The audio is so distorted (static sound) that it's almost indecipherable
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> AaronCampbell: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds then try some sonund stuffs
[16:57] <AaronCampbell> ActionParsnip: still seems messed up
[16:58] <AaronCampbell> Skype froze when I did that too...not sure if it was related
[16:58] <AaronCampbell> I'm going to try again.
[17:01] <AaronCampbell> ActionParsnip: Running that command seems to cause Skype to freeze up (looks fine still, but chat messages stop sending and receiving).
[17:02] <AaronCampbell> If I kill skype (need to use kill -9) and start it back up the sound is still broke
[17:04] <AaronCampbell> Several places suggest it's an issue between Skype and pulseaudio and they suggest removing pulseaudio.  However, when I went to do that it says it'll remove "ubuntu-desktop" too.
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Skypeis a mess, best avoided imho
[17:04] <AaronCampbell> Wis I could
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> AaronCampbell: you can remove the ubuntu-desktop package, its just a metapackage
[17:04] <AaronCampbell> Ok, I'll try it
[17:14] <Snappo> Hello, I just installed the latest daily build of Ubuntu 12.10, and I cant't boot, I get an error that says "Unrecognized file system" and a grub prompt
[17:14] <Snappo> currently running a live session from USB
[17:15] <mortal>  
[17:15] <mortal> sri
[17:18] <AaronCampbell> Removing Pulse audio fixed the Skype audio completely
[17:18] <AaronCampbell> However, it also removed by panel icon for adjusting volume.  Is there an alternative mixer that will give me my icon back?
[17:21] <AaronCampbell> Holy crap, removing pulseaudio has also fixed my laggy video on my 4 monitor setup.  Why would that be?
[17:22] <AaronCampbell> Nevermind, it was the one other thing I did...still, I tracked it down!
[17:23] <AaronCampbell> If I have the Launcher show on all desktops I get the lag
[17:23] <genii-around> Snappo:: Can you pastebin what sudo fdisk -l      says?
[17:23] <AaronCampbell> Show it on just 1 and I don't
[17:26] <Snappo> genii-around: let me check
[17:32] <Snappo> genii-around: http://pastebin.ca/2207257
[17:32] <Snappo> sorry that took so long my coworker just arrived so I got caught in a conversation
[17:34] <genii-around> Snappo: Looks like you're trying to boot off a non-primary partition.
[17:44] <Snappo> genii-around: I didn't change my partition scheme, I just installed on top of the old ubuntu install
[17:44] <Snappo> I've had this partition layout for like a year, with grub 2
[17:48] <genii-around> Snappo: And it was installed previously on sda7 ?
[17:48] <Snappo> I guess, I dunno
[17:48] <Snappo> I just chose the "erase Quantal and reinstall" option
[17:50] <Snappo> I don't mind reinstalling again but I want to preserve my NTFS partition
[17:50] <Snappo> genii-around: any possible solutions?
[17:50] <AlexPortable> will the amazon lense use data when not being used?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: i'd imagine not
[17:50] <AlexPortable> or when someone clicks on it
[17:50] <AlexPortable> on the lense i mean
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: I believe it searches when you use the lense, otherwise I'd say not
[17:51] <Pici> !adlens
[17:53] <genii-around> Snappo: My suggestion would be to remove sda3 through sda8, create a last primary partition to install onto instead.
[17:53] <Snappo> okay
[17:53] <Snappo> I'll give that a try in a bit
[17:54] <genii-around> ( all those partitions currently seem to be the one old install and then three swap partitions for some reason)
[17:55] <Snappo> you know that whole don't install on production systems thing? I'm at work :V
[17:55] <Snappo> good thing I have a lot of riam
[17:55] <Snappo> *ram
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Snappo: how does RAM relate to your HDD partitions?
[18:17] <bjsnider> ActionParsnip, ram is now a generic term meaning "stuff i thinks i needs"
[18:22] <Snappo> [18:12] <ActionParsnip> Snappo: how does RAM relate to your HDD partitions? - I can still get my work done from a live session
[18:22] <Snappo> oh they left
[20:04] <BebopSteve> Is anyone familiar with docky config files?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky
[20:05] <BebopSteve> oh, wrong channel, sorry!
[20:49] <MadEchidna> okay so how do I install the AMD video drivers correctly? I tried installing the package from their website the other day and it broke X
[21:06] <MadEchidna> arg wtf
[21:07] <MadEchidna> I just added this ppa, and it just won't work
[21:07] <MadEchidna> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[21:07] <MadEchidna> E: Unable to locate package fglrx-installer
[21:07] <MadEchidna> I've added it twice now, no joy
[21:08] <IdleOne> Did you sudo apt-get update?
[21:10] <bjsnider> a newer fglrx-installer is already in restricted
[21:13] <MadEchidna> why can't i see it
 Did you sudo apt-get update? <- several times
[21:14] <MadEchidna> E: Unable to locate package fglrx-installer
[21:14] <MadEchidna> even with restricted and that ppa
[21:15] <MadEchidna> this is amazingly frustrating
[21:27] <MadEchidna> oh for fucks sake
[21:28] <MadEchidna> is the Mobility Radeon HD 5800 not even supported anymore
[21:28] <MadEchidna> because that's what the Catylist installer is saying
[21:28] <IdleOne> MadEchidna: Please don't swear
[21:28] <MadEchidna> sorry