[07:49] <bootlkjkgf> mornin' All
[14:03] <tumbleweed> !dmb-ping
[14:03] <bdrung> o/
[14:03] <Laney> hallo!
[14:03] <micahg> o/
[14:04] <tumbleweed> well, that's quorate, not that we have anything on the agenda
[14:04] <smartboyhw> Oh what does !dmb-ping do/
[14:05]  * stgraber waves
[14:05] <tumbleweed> it pings the developer membership board members
[14:05] <tumbleweed> #startmeeting Developer Membership Board
[14:05] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Sep 24 14:05:42 2012 UTC.  The chair is tumbleweed. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[14:05] <tumbleweed> #topic Review of previous action items
[14:06] <tumbleweed> #subtopic laney to delete network-manager packageset
[14:06] <tumbleweed> I assume that's blocked on my LP branch
[14:06] <Laney> yeah, that
[14:06] <Laney> how's that going
[14:06] <Laney> ?
[14:07] <tumbleweed> nobody is reviewing it
[14:07] <Laney> naughty OCR?
[14:07] <micahg> tumbleweed: have you tried to get someone in #launchpad-dev to review it?
[14:07] <Laney> or nobody likes to touch soyuz?
[14:07] <tumbleweed> the soyuz problem
[14:08] <bdrung> nobody want's to touch the old Russian technology? ;)
[14:08] <tumbleweed> rick_h punted to wgrant or SteveK, but neither of them have looked at i tyet
[14:09] <Laney> cjwatson: are you able to review LP MPs? ;-)
[14:10] <cjwatson> Laney: No
[14:10] <cjwatson> Laney: Nagging #launchpad-dev generally works for me
[14:10] <Laney> apparently there's some kind of fear factor
[14:10] <Laney> so it should be more targetted
[14:10]  * tumbleweed shall nag harder
[14:10] <tumbleweed> it's a *trivial* patch
[14:10] <cjwatson> Laney: Like I say, it works for me for my extremely Soyuz-heavy MP distribution
[14:11] <cjwatson> Sure, the odd reviewer gives
[14:11] <cjwatson> up
[14:11] <cjwatson> But I've had plenty of reviewers other than William and Steve deal with my patches as well
[14:11] <tumbleweed> I need feedback on style and deletion semantics more than anything else
[14:11] <tumbleweed> anyway, that's blocking all the action items, that I can see
[14:12] <tumbleweed> except
[14:12] <tumbleweed> #subtopic stgraber to add ppu for lexical to fwts
[14:12] <tumbleweed> done, according to the minutes
[14:12] <stgraber> yep
[14:12] <tumbleweed> so
[14:12] <tumbleweed> #topic any other business
[14:12] <bdrung> do we want to discuss libreoffice?
[14:15] <bdrung> who will be at the UDS?
[14:15] <micahg> o/ for AOB
[14:16]  * tumbleweed will
[14:16]  * bdrung will be (thanks to being sponsored)
[14:16] <tumbleweed> (yeah, that)
[14:16] <micahg> we actually won't have a meeting scheduled for UDS this time :)
[14:16] <Laney> everyone?!
[14:16] <Laney> that's sad :(
[14:16] <Laney> the UDS meetings are fun
[14:17] <stgraber> I'll be there
[14:17] <micahg> we can still meet to plan though :)
[14:17] <bdrung> do we want a meeting?
[14:17]  * xnox a bunch of rebels
[14:17] <Laney> #vote ban xnox
[14:17] <Laney> +1
[14:17] <Laney> :-)
[14:17]  * xnox told you so
[14:17] <tumbleweed> +1 on UDS meetings being fun
[14:18]  * xnox probably will be banned now....
[14:18] <bdrung> tumbleweed: then let's schedule one
[14:18] <stgraber> I'm sure we can arrange a special DMB meeting for any applicant at UDS :)
[14:19] <tumbleweed> do we also want a private UDS meeting?
[14:19] <tumbleweed> bdrung: prepared to organise it?
[14:19]  * micahg would actually prefer to keep the extra sessions to a minimum as UDS is only 4 days this time around (well, time permitting, sure, why not)
[14:19] <stgraber> however, if we do, I'd prefer we don't have another meeting to discuss the DMB itself as UDS is a day shorter and I'm pretty sure my list of stuff to discuss won't be...
[14:19] <bdrung> tumbleweed: i will be on vacation tomorrow
[14:20]  * stgraber is always happy to discuss DMB stuff over lunch though
[14:20] <tumbleweed> well, what's more important to us then?
[14:21] <tumbleweed> applicants?
[14:21] <stgraber> I don't think we really have that many stuff to discuss outside of applicants. So I think we should schedule one public meeting. If we have applicants, we'll take them, if we don't, we'll discuss DMB stuff for an hour
[14:22] <tumbleweed> works for me
[14:22] <bdrung> me too
[14:22] <tumbleweed> I suspect we'll be doing some hallway discussion on PPU issues
[14:23] <tumbleweed> #action tumbleweed to schedule a DMB session at UDS
[14:23] <meetingology> ACTION: tumbleweed to schedule a DMB session at UDS
[14:23] <tumbleweed> micahg: you had something?
[14:23] <micahg> yeah
[14:24] <micahg> so, the issue came up last week that a docs team member couldn't upload docs for a derivative even thought the docs are owned by the docs team, I was wondering if we should be proactive here and create a docs packageset and invite people to apply for it
[14:25] <micahg> (someone with upload rights to ubuntu-docs already)
[14:25] <bdrung> sounds good
[14:26] <stgraber> well, in most cases flavours have a completely separate doc team from ~ubuntu-docs, so not having upload rights makes sense...
[14:27] <ogra_> sudo sync
[14:27] <ogra_> oops
[14:27] <micahg> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ doesn't agree :)
[14:27] <tumbleweed> if there are people who need this, I'd say invite the applicants, but no need to create the packageset until we have a member
[14:28] <bdrung> +1 for tumbleweed's suggestion
[14:28] <micahg> tumbleweed: right, yeah, was thinking to discuss with the person in question and if desired have a formal application proposed
[14:28] <tumbleweed> ok
[14:29]  * micahg guesses that's not what he originally said, but makes more sense
[14:31] <tumbleweed> anything else?
[14:31] <bdrung> no
[14:31] <tumbleweed> next chair
[14:31] <tumbleweed> stgraber: I guess
[14:32] <micahg> date of next meeting?
[14:33] <bdrung> October, 8th according to our plan
[14:33] <micahg> Oct 8 is a legal holiday in US and CA
[14:33] <stgraber> I won't be there on the 8th
[14:33]  * micahg neither
[14:33] <stgraber> IIRC both barry and cody-somerville said they wouldn't either
[14:33] <tumbleweed> tsk tsk - it's a public holiday here today (national braai day)
[14:34] <tumbleweed> ok, so Oct 22nd
[14:34] <stgraber> tumbleweed: yeah, the fact that it's a public holiday doesn't really matter to me, it's more the fact that I'll be coming back from a conference and preparing a trip to Europe ;)
[14:34] <bdrung> i will be there on Oct. 8th
[14:34]  * tumbleweed can make the 8th
[14:34] <Laney> can't we just have it on the 15th?
[14:35] <micahg> and then another meeting on the 22nd?
[14:35] <Laney> no
[14:35] <micahg> push off a week so we can have one at UDS ;)
[14:35] <micahg> (that was a question)
[14:35] <Laney> a happy ending for all
[14:35] <bdrung> i should be able to attend on the 15th
[14:35] <Laney> just shift by a week
[14:36] <tumbleweed> as long as we don't clash with the techboard
[14:36] <stgraber> 15th would work, though I'd appreciate if we can shift it back post-UDS as otherwise we risk getting in conflicts with the TB meeting
[14:36] <Laney> silly TB
[14:36] <micahg> well, the meetings are only supposed to be 1 hr
[14:36] <stgraber> (oh, and I also kinda like "working" on Mondays so if I can avoid having 2 hours worth of IRC meetings on the same day, that'd be nice ;))
[14:37]  * micahg already has that :)
[14:37] <stgraber> yeah, I have that on Wednesdays, so not looking forward to having more of that ;)
[14:37] <tumbleweed> 15th, UDS, back to the normal schedule?
[14:38]  * bdrung agrees
[14:38] <stgraber> sounds good
[14:38] <tumbleweed> done
[14:38] <tumbleweed> #endmeeting
[14:38] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Sep 24 14:38:23 2012 UTC.
[14:38] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-24-14.05.moin.txt
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[14:38] <micahg> well, that still gives us 2 weeks in a row (UDS, post UDS)
[14:39] <tumbleweed> if we have no applicants, we can skip one
[14:39] <micahg> should we skip the post UDS meeting?
[14:39] <stgraber> I don't mind two weeks in a row if we have applicants
[14:39] <bdrung> micahg: depends on the amount of applications
[14:39] <Laney> decide then
[14:39] <micahg> right, that (enough applicants) would be a nice problem to have I guess
[18:01] <jdstrand> o/
[18:01] <mdeslaur> o/
[18:01] <jjohansen> \o
[18:01] <sarnold> \o/
[18:01] <tyhicks> hello
[18:02] <jdstrand> #startmeeting
[18:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Sep 24 18:02:06 2012 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[18:02] <jdstrand> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[18:02] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[18:02] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[18:02] <jdstrand> I'll go first
[18:03] <jdstrand> I think I am done with the audits for the time being. there are a couple left, but they aren't important. maybe we can use those later for training on uaudit
[18:03] <jdstrand> which means I can actually get back to helping out with updates
[18:03] <mdeslaur> \o/
[18:03] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: seriously :)
[18:04] <mdeslaur> :)
[18:04] <jdstrand> in addition to that, I'm on community this week, and plan to train sarnold on UCT
[18:04] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: you're up
[18:04] <mdeslaur> I just published ghostscript. I have emacs and freeradius to test
[18:05] <mdeslaur> I'm currently working on transmission
[18:05] <mdeslaur> and will attack the CVE list with a chainsaw after that
[18:05] <mdeslaur> what's it from me
[18:05] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: you're up
[18:05] <sbeattie> I'm trying to finish up eglibc
[18:05] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: do, or do not, there is no try.
[18:06] <sbeattie> then I'll move on to focusing on apparmor, starting with the dbus ppa
[18:06] <sbeattie> that's pretty much it for me
[18:06] <sbeattie> micahg, you're up
[18:07] <micahg> I've got Thunderbird 15.0.1 (this week or we skip it), and I'm trying to finish up webkit for oneiric
[18:07]  * micahg hugs sbeattie
[18:07] <micahg> oh, and it's a short week for me (off Wed)
[18:07] <micahg> that's it for me
[18:08] <micahg> tyhicks: tag
[18:08] <tyhicks> I'm finishing up ruby1.9.1 and rubygems. Fought with the test scripts last week and found another issue that I had to roll into the ruby1.9.1 update, so it fell into this week.
[18:09] <tyhicks> After that, I hope to start on some apparmor work
[18:09] <tyhicks> if that's not yet ready, I'll try to fit in one more update
[18:09] <tyhicks> that's it for me
[18:09] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[18:09] <jjohansen> I finally have access to the QA machine where the apparmor QRT failure was happening so I need to look into that.
[18:09] <jjohansen> /me needs to finish writing up some notes on the current apparmor work and get together with tyhicks and sbeattie on apparmor dbus, and stacking/labeling and get back to debugging stacking.
[18:10] <jjohansen> or hrmm, continue debugging ...
[18:10] <jjohansen> that is it for me sarnold your up
[18:10] <sarnold> I'm finally finished with the generic employee new starter tasks; I've made good progress on the UE/Security new-starter tasks.
[18:11] <sarnold> this week I'm finishing those up, starting triage, and getting trained on UCT :)
[18:11] <mdeslaur> sarnold: \o/
[18:11] <sarnold> I've got a few questions about alioth, but perhaps those should be handled out-of-bounds?
[18:11] <jdstrand> yeah
[18:11] <sarnold> okay, then I'm finished :) jdstrand, your turn
[18:12] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[18:12] <jdstrand> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[18:12] <jdstrand> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[18:12] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ccid.html
[18:12] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libapache2-mod-auth-openid.html
[18:12] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/teamspeak-client.html
[18:12] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/batmand.html
[18:13] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/modsecurity-apache.html
[18:13] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[18:13] <jdstrand> There are a lot of merge opportunities for packages listed in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/d2u/. Performing these updates is a great way to help Ubuntu and bolster your developer application.
[18:13] <jdstrand> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[18:15] <mdeslaur> jdstrand: can I have a pony?
[18:15]  * jdstrand hands mdeslaur a pony
[18:16] <jdstrand> and with that...
[18:16] <mdeslaur> \o/
[18:16] <jdstrand> #endmeeting
[18:16] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Sep 24 18:16:06 2012 UTC.
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[18:16] <jdstrand> mdeslaur, sbeattie, micahg, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold: thanks!
[18:16] <sarnold> a pony in every pot?
[18:16] <mdeslaur> thanks jdstrand
[18:16] <tyhicks> thanks!
[18:16] <jjohansen> thanks jdstrand
[18:16] <sbeattie> jdstrand: thanks
[18:16] <micahg> thanks jdstrand
[18:16] <jdstrand> np