[06:22] <noskcaj> shouldn't beta 2 be out by now?
[06:22] <knome> patience! :P
[06:23] <knome> it's probably out the same time as the daily images, 10UTC that is
[06:24] <noskcaj> so 8pm for me
[06:24] <noskcaj> i shall do it tomorrow
[07:48] <olbi> hello
[07:49] <olbi> I have found some strange behaviour when using LibreOffice Writet when I have a whole page of text and try to mark all of them, then at 3/4 of page, it becomes unmarked
[07:49] <olbi> it is at Xubuntu 12.10 with all daily updates
[07:49] <olbi> on Xubuntu 11.10 and Xubuntu 12.04 all is ok
[07:50] <elfy> what do you mean by mark olbi ?
[07:52] <elfy> olbi: I have a 2page doc open in writer and not seeing anything odd here
[07:53] <olbi> I mean select some text
[07:54] <elfy> k - I assumed that was the case - can select all 2 pages with no problems here
[07:54] <olbi> hmm :P I do fresh install today and chekc this :)
[07:55] <elfy> k
[07:56] <ade> Does anyone know when the new testcases will be fully updated on the iso tracker?
[07:57] <ade> As we're now in beta2 freeze, I am presuming that daily testing will cease until the 27th (beta 2 release date), would this be correct??
[08:02] <jibel> olbi, I am not sure that it is specific to LibreOffice, I've seen the same behavior with other applications as well, like gnome-terminal or thunderbird.
[08:02] <olbi> hmm
[08:03] <olbi> I only saw this in LO :D
[08:03] <olbi> checking on clean install soon
[09:24] <olbi> OK, checking and on fresh install it seems to be again
[09:48] <noskcaj> the beta 2 page is up http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/238/builds just no testcases yet
[10:55] <smartboyhw> elfy: Friendly question: Have you finished the updating ARM testsuite thing in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/QuantalTestcaseUpdates ? Supposed to be due today...:)
[11:41] <elfy> smartboyhw: friendly reply - nope - nor did I agree to anysort of timeframe :) and I'm pretty sure that the completion date is in fact empty ...
[11:42] <smartboyhw> elfy: don't worry I'm sure balloons will be more hard-working on that, he has got a lot of unfinished items lol
[14:26] <olbi> I have a problem, can't contact with any polish team translator :/
[14:28] <smartboyhw> olbi, er this is a testing channel not a translations channel
[14:28] <phillw> hi olbi I'm not too well up with the translators.
[14:29] <phillw> does anyone on the poliah LoCo team have any ideas about how to reach them? http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-pl
[14:29] <phillw> *polish*
[14:41] <balloons> ohh I missed olbi
[14:41] <balloons> :-(
[14:42] <smartboyhw> lol
[14:50]  * phillw is keeping fingers crossed :)
[14:55] <balloons> i chee wow wa
[14:55] <balloons> <-- still dogsitting
[14:56] <smartboyhw> lol
[14:58] <roadmr> woof
[15:01] <balloons> roadmr, :-)
[15:01] <smartboyhw> lol
[16:42] <njin> can someone triage and set importance high/critical for bug 1048361
[16:49] <stgraber> balloons: can you take care of bug 1055618?
[16:50] <balloons> njin, I know the bug your speaking off
[16:50] <balloons> I encountered it sometime ago and had discussion with colin abou tit
[16:50] <balloons> stgraber, i'm not sure what he's talking about
[16:50] <balloons> I'll followup
[16:51] <balloons> stgraber, fyi, feel free to assign or sub me on these
[16:52] <balloons> I'm not sure what can be said about it
[16:52] <balloons> you can expand the area and then hit the skip button
[16:52] <balloons> I just did that this morning
[16:52] <balloons> njin, are you SURE you had no networking?
[16:53] <balloons>  encounter the issue if i have networking enabled, but no outside connection to the internet
[16:53] <balloons> let me see if I can find the old bug
[16:54] <njin> balloons, hallo, asap I try with not connected option in VB
[16:55] <njin> then I want to try it in real hardware
[16:56] <balloons> hmm
[16:56] <balloons> maybe I didn't file
[16:56] <balloons> maybe I just talked with colin abou tit
[16:56] <balloons> I have some links
[16:56] <njin> balloons, probably you have confirmed mine
[16:57] <balloons> bah I can't find the wiki links to the design doc
[16:57] <balloons> a true offline install worked for me
[16:57] <balloons> being connected, but not having internet causes apt to hang
[16:57] <balloons> apt should timeout, but doesn't
[17:29] <njin> balloons, right, being connected but not having internet cause this problem
[17:57] <balloons_> njin, i missed any responses you may have sent
[17:57] <balloons_> thoughts on your bug? How's the server testcases?
[18:14] <njin> balloons, bug report upgraded, sertver testcase waiting till the fix of maas-dhcp
[18:31] <balloons> njin ok let's add the server testcases as-is though
[18:31] <balloons> we can note the bug
[18:37] <njin> bug 1055618 not reproducible by me in Vbox
[18:39] <balloons> yea.. I'm not sure what is meant by it
[18:39] <balloons> njin, could you run through the unty tests for the new lens?
[18:40] <balloons> just the 2 mandatories unless your feeling extra generous and have the time :-) http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/237/builds/23813/testcases
[18:54] <balloons> njin, why isn't that testcase working?
[18:54] <balloons> is something wrong with the case, or a bug?
[18:54] <njin> i think a bug it won't play
[18:58] <phillw> balloons: whilst I remember, the mandatory desktop & alternate test cases were all proof read & errors corrected. Missed announcing it as we went off to look at re-hasing them!
[18:59] <ade_> Whats the current status of things, am I ok to continue testing the daily builds or do I need to wait until the new testcases are ready?
[18:59] <njin> I've got rithmbox and banshee installed but noone is started from the play button in the dash
[19:00] <njin> ade_: the testcases are ever the same, at least yuo can wait for a new build to see if some bug is fixed
[19:03] <ade_> Sorry, I am not sure I understand. Are we still testing or waiting until the 27th. Apologies if I sound a little stupid, its my first time going through the quantal cycles!
[19:04] <phillw> ade_: the beta2's are currently due to start landing for QA testing at 21:00UTC this evening. (aka ~ 1 hour).
[19:04] <njin> ade_: the new build will be published tomorrow, if you have time you can help phillw testing Lubuntu
[19:04] <ade_> Awesome! Thankyou for the clarification :o)
[19:06] <phillw> njin: there is a queue for a new kernel, I'm not sure when it will land (and thus when the beta 2 QA iso's will be generated) - Or that is as much as I can glean from being on -release :)
[19:07] <phillw> as usual, things are somewhat hectic on there :)
[19:07] <njin> :)
[19:07] <balloons> njin, ok, please report as a bug
[19:07] <balloons> and ty much for testing!
[19:07] <balloons> ade_, there's a simple and easy test that can be done now :-)
[19:08] <njin> ok, there'a a particular package for the lens or is unity ?
[19:08] <balloons> unity 6.6 testing here: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/237/builds/23813/testcases
[19:08] <balloons> unity-lens-music
[19:08] <balloons> njin, ^^
[19:08] <njin> ok thanks
[19:09] <ade_> balloons: I'm on it! :o)
[19:10] <balloons> thanks ade_ !
[19:10] <balloons> phillw, excellent
[19:10] <balloons> care to update the wiki?
[19:10] <balloons> I changed everything that needed it to FAMILY today
[19:10] <balloons> so everything should look good in flavors now
[19:10] <knome> balloons, hooray
[19:10] <phillw> yeah, I'll go over there now.
[19:12] <ade_> balloons: I don't see a testcase for music??
[19:15] <phillw> balloons: I give up! Where's the tracker page for where we're up to with test cases? :P
[19:15] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/QuantalTestcaseUpdates
[19:16] <njin> can someone reproduce and confirm bug 1055722
[19:16] <balloons> phillw, also made this page today https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/RelatedTeams
[19:17] <ade_> Anyone need a cup of tea? :o)
[19:17] <knome> o/
[19:17]  * knome is flu'y
[19:17] <balloons> sorry knome :-?(
[19:17] <knome> np
[19:17] <balloons> njin, It works for me
[19:18] <balloons> just tested again, works fine
[19:18] <phillw> balloons: As the test cases are about 'all' test cases, with other teams having 'test-once' cases, I cannot really sign theirs off. Do you want me to add a short section to list the 7 mandatory tests as okay?
[19:18] <njin> want to try in Vb
[19:19] <phillw> sorry to hear, knome
[19:19] <balloons> btw knome helped rock out theorangenotebook.com
[19:20] <balloons> phillw, I'm a bit confused by what you mean?
[19:20] <phillw> balloons: I saw a little of the converstation.
[19:20] <balloons> brb
[19:21] <phillw> balloons: well, for ubuntu there are quite a lot of 'test-once', test cases which I cannot state have been either converted or proof read?
[19:21] <phillw> k
[19:25] <balloons> ohh ok, right right
[19:26] <balloons> state what you can state
[19:26] <balloons> I wouldn't add more detail :-)
[19:26] <phillw> balloons: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/QuantalTestcaseUpdates
[19:26] <phillw> is that okay?
[19:27] <phillw> that allows for teams to confirm their 'test once' test cases?
[19:28] <balloons> ohh
[19:28] <balloons> yes
[19:28] <balloons> those are at the bottom
[19:28] <balloons>     Creation of flavor specific testcases
[19:28] <balloons> will already updated the ones I asked him to look at
[19:28] <balloons> njin, does it fail for you on real hw or in vb?
[19:38] <njin> balloons, in real hardware, now guest additions not working too......
[19:40] <balloons> odd
[19:40] <balloons> yep definitely file the bug
[19:41] <balloons> works for me, something must be diff for you
[19:45] <phillw> njin: balloons which iso?
[19:45] <ade_> balloons: up to speed now! Of course there wasn't a testcase lol
[19:46] <ade_> njin: works for me too, play button and individual play/pause button next to each track when selecting an album
[19:47] <ade_> Forgot I had so much good music too :o)
[19:48] <njin> testing just now in VB, I've got only one mp3 in music carpet but isn't listed clicking the dash
[19:50] <ade_> njin: Didn't pick up my music at first either, had to search for it first and then it appeared in music.
[19:51] <njin> uhm, balloons is what ade_ daid expected ' it won't search in Music carpet ?
[19:51] <njin> daid/said
[19:52] <ade_> Photos, music and video only seem to display played/viewed item so ignore last comment... unless it's supposed to search all!
[19:53] <balloons> not sure I'm following her
[19:53] <balloons> *here
[19:53] <balloons> it should show music on your pc
[19:54] <balloons> and if you have the suggestions lens, music out on the interwebs as well
[19:55] <ade_> Shows interweb stuff ok
[19:56] <ade_> Won't show an album, however once a track is played from that album then the entire album will show afterwards for individual track selection.
[19:57] <njin> Uff nothing working for me, my only mp3 file in Music isn't showed
[19:58] <ade_> njin: have you tried searching for it first, then playing... should show afterwards
[19:59] <njin> Mah, balloons, music lens is only for the store or for all the music on the pc ?
[19:59] <balloons> there's the music store, and now amazon suggestion as well
[19:59] <njin> it just propose me music to buy
[19:59] <balloons> and of course the music on your pc ;-)
[20:00] <balloons> the "preview" is only for the suggested tracks
[20:00] <ade_> balloons: have you a link to the spec req doc??
[20:00] <balloons> if it's on your pc you can simply play it
[20:00] <njin> and won't list the mp3 on the Music carpet, but it is listed as mp3 in file
[20:00] <balloons> ade_,  I don't sadly
[20:00] <ade_> baloons: no worries
[20:00] <balloons> so your not finding a music file on your pc
[20:00] <balloons> is that it njin?
[20:01] <njin> yes, it is listed in files but not in Music
[20:01] <phillw> so, not unity-lens-shopping?
[20:01] <ade_> same here in that case as well balloons, true hw
[20:01] <njin> VB for me
[20:02] <njin> is the music lens not working for me
[20:02] <ade_> Doesn't show any music at first (apart from interweb etc), then once you have played an item from, say, an album... only then does the entire album show for selection. That make sense??
[20:05] <njin> balloons, yes it won't work on real hardware too , but now is late, can you report the bug or i'll do it tom orrow?
[20:05] <balloons> do it tomorrow njin
[20:06] <njin> ok, see you tomorrow
[20:06] <balloons> we'll need the logs on your box
[20:06] <balloons> ubuntu-bug unity-lens-music
[20:06] <njin> thanks
[20:06] <balloons> it works on mine so it won't do any good sadly :-)
[20:15] <ade_> Difficult without knowing how it is properly supposed to function. There is a definite problem there though imho
[20:15] <phillw> balloons: have you time for a quick PM?
[20:15] <balloons> if there's a definite issue filing a bug is a good way to find out
[20:17] <ade_> I mean if it's supposed to display all music on the system, then it doesn;t work - but to scan each time (or even a last updated type thing) doesn't seem very logical as would take to long.... for me, it works fine, plays the last selected tunes and loads alternatives around the item last played.
[20:19] <ade_> And that's consistent behaviour with the photo and video lenses so I think all is ok.
[20:19] <ade_> balloons: will let njit take the lead on the bug report of that one :o)
[20:21] <balloons> ade_, ok, message recieved
[20:21] <balloons> that's right, on my end everything seems to work
[20:21] <balloons> ade_, passed or not, go ahead and put your name on the cases after you do them :-)
[20:22] <balloons> helps confirm it's working for people.. that's just as important as getting a bug report
[20:27] <ade_> balloons: I couldn't find the test case in the link you sent to begin with, was just investigating the issues njin had
[20:27] <balloons> ade_, ohh?
[20:27] <balloons> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/237/builds/23813/testcases
[20:28] <balloons> specifically, http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/237/builds/23813/testcases/1448/results
[20:28] <balloons> click that 'testcase' button to expand the testcase
[20:28] <ade_> Ah, just found it
[20:29] <ade_> Can we number the test case items next time... sorry just a suggestion :oP
[20:30] <balloons> ade_, sure, but number what?
[20:30] <balloons> normally there's only 1 testcase per page.. unity is a bit special with all of them on that page
[20:30] <balloons> since it's a bunch of short tests in a row
[20:31] <ade_> Test-case dash/application-lens is item #1, Test-case dash/application-lens-search #2... etc
[20:31] <knome> balloons, the images for b2 are rebuilding; should we convert the testcases now?
[20:31] <balloons> ahh yes..
[20:31] <balloons> knome, I was just working on that
[20:31] <ade_> Then when a reference is made to an item you can just say.. len testing, item 5.. go :o)
[20:31] <knome> balloons, in sandbox?
[20:32] <balloons> ade_, noted :-)
[20:32] <balloons> you can also say Test-case dash/music-lens-search
[20:32] <balloons> etc
[20:32] <balloons> knome, not in sandbox yet
[20:32] <knome> ok
[20:33] <ade_> Yeah I know, just a newbie looking in lol, wasn't to sure what you wanted me to do at first
[20:34] <balloons> that's really valid feedback
[20:34] <balloons> we want it to be ovious
[20:34] <balloons> even I'm liable to forget ;-)
[20:34] <balloons> my memory has been compared to a goldfish
[20:34] <knome> hm.. i thought your brain was just full of compressed air, judging by your nick
[20:35] <balloons> compressed air doesn't hold much data
[20:35] <knome> true that
[20:35] <balloons> can really only deal with the present ;-)
[20:35] <knome> so doesn't goldfish :)
[20:35] <ade_> lol
[20:35] <balloons> seriously though, I often get up and start walking across the room.. 2 steps into my walk, I've no idea what I got up
[20:37] <knome> i do the exact same
[20:40] <noskcaj> shouldn't some more beta images be put by now?
[20:41] <knome> they need to respin, new kernel or some changes
[20:41] <balloons> noskcaj, yes.. but they are coming now
[20:41] <balloons> ^^ new kernel
[20:41] <balloons> I'll send a mail to the list about them
[20:46] <ade_> balloons: Some of these testcases are a bit vague are they not?
[20:46] <balloons> for unity?
[20:46] <balloons> yes, comments, suggestion, improvements are always welcome
[20:46] <balloons> the unity team landed the stuff post feature freeze
[20:46] <balloons> we had to work quickly to get something up to test out the new stuff
[20:46] <balloons> it's not our preference for doing things :-)
[20:47] <ade_> lol yeah I understand and am sure it's not our fault at all
[20:48] <ade_> Will suggest the music one again, seems to work fine, but add an album (which a user will be most likely to do) then click music to listen to it... nothing, you have to search for it first
[20:49] <ade_> The test case passes of course, but little things like that stump the user and causes them to panic or say it's broken etc
[20:49] <balloons> ade_, let me make sure I'm following
[20:49] <ade_> ok... shoot
[20:50] <balloons> can you write out what your trying to say? or simply edit the testcase your speaking of and post it back on paste.ubuntu.com or something
[20:50] <balloons> we can edit the cases -- nothing is in stone :-)
[20:52] <ade_> Ok, test case item I am mentioning is dash/music-lens, what is the definition of indexed music here? If it's last played item (and suggestions surrounding that)... them it passes.
[20:53] <ade_> But if it's a search of the users music file, then will only display the last played items... and that's fine, because that's how I think it should work, but clarification is needed I think#
[20:54] <ade_> After all are we testing... or  testing just for test purposes and a tick. Appreciate it's probably no fault of the testcase writers
[20:55] <ade_> Item 5.. of the unity lenses testcase
[21:01] <ade_> balloons: I know it seems pedantic, as you blitz through the testcase it seems to work fine, but download, add a new track/album or whatever and then repeat the test and it then doesn't work?
[21:02] <ade_> Perhaps I am just looking to closely at things, if it passes, then it passes right?
[21:03] <balloons> yikes the netsplit
[21:03] <balloons> ade_, if you posted back, I missed it ;)
[21:04] <balloons> ade_, no, going beyond what has simply been written is excellent
[21:05] <balloons> phillw, are you back?
[21:06] <phillw> balloons: I am, just finished https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TestCaseAdmins/ManagementOverview#New_Formatting_tags awaiting you to proof read it.
[21:10] <ade_> balloons: Apoligies, I seem to have my tec writing head on. If it passes the specification passed by the unity team then it's passed. Any doubts - then raise a bug and get it clarified with them.
[21:11] <ade_> balloons: still finding my bearings here :o)
[21:11] <balloons> ade_, no your right
[21:11] <balloons> it's a good hat to have on
[21:11] <balloons> the point is, QA is still young.. so we're still getting up to speed
[21:11] <balloons> having a complete testsuite for unity is an on-going process, but it's in much better shape thanmost apps
[21:12] <balloons> regardless, I'd be excitied to tweak the cases to address what your seeing
[21:13] <ade_> Totally understand, we're all here to make things better :o)
[21:15] <ade_> Just clarification of what 'indexed music' is to be honest. Seems as I have raised it, I will try my best to find out and report back
[21:17]  * balloons is ready and waiting for any suggestions to change or additional cases
[21:17] <balloons> phillw, looks good.. ty
[21:17] <balloons> still working on the convert
[21:17] <balloons> gotta script it quickly
[21:18] <phillw> I'm still too scared to ask if the ppc stuff for lubuntu has arrived... I saw Colin ask for it.
[21:39] <balloons> knome, phillw first pass at the conversion
[21:39] <balloons> http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/qatracker/milestones/225/builds/16296/testcases/1303/results
[21:40] <balloons> note any errors you see, I'll fix up the script
[21:43] <phillw> balloons: soz, I'm just having a chat with "The Gods", as to when we will get the QA of Beta 2.
[22:14] <ade_> balloons: Thanks for all your patience tonight, I really did learn a lot believe it or not. Will get to the bottom of the unity-lens-music scope behaviour tomorrow and continue to develop in QA. Thanks.
[22:16] <ade_> balloons: FINALLY, literally just before I was about to disconnect... http://askubuntu.com/questions/38772/what-lenses-for-unity-are-available
[22:16] <balloons> ade_, ohh there's much more
[22:16] <balloons> one sec
[22:16] <ade_> balloons: this suggests that music played on your system will show up in the lens and not all music
[22:18] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity
[22:18] <balloons> that has good info in there actually
[22:22] <ade_> 'Adult Lens & Porn Scope' haha, that did make me chuckle! Good luck with writing a testcase for that one :o)
[22:24] <ade_> Anyways am out before face hits the keyboard. Good luck testing everyone, keep up the good work