| rick_h_ | woot! https://plus.google.com/116120911388966791792/posts/AzF2YfvbtoQ | 00:35 |
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| snap-l | Just saw it | 00:47 |
| snap-l | That is awesome. | 00:47 |
| rick_h_droid | yea getting psyched to get something done. big milestone. | 01:18 |
| snap-l | My only reason for using Rhythmbox nowadays is to determine the length of a playlist. Congratulations, now that doesn't even work. | 01:28 |
| snap-l | OK, now it's working. Feh | 01:35 |
| jcastro__ | snap-l, http://ue.logitech.com/en-us | 01:56 |
| jcastro__ | looks like they relaunched everything | 01:56 |
| snap-l | http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/09/23/on-the-recent-dash-improvements/#comment-660468666 | 02:20 |
| snap-l | jcastro__: Damnit, I hope they don't discontinue the touch. | 02:22 |
| snap-l | And hard-core Squeezebox fans will lament the lack of interoperability with existing Squeezebox products. | 02:25 |
| snap-l | Stay away. | 02:25 |
| snap-l | http://reviews.cnet.com/portable-audio-devices/logitech-ue-smart-radio/4505-6450_7-35419331.html | 02:25 |
| rick_h_ | hmmm, custom fit in ear headphones... | 02:25 |
| snap-l | Motherfucker. | 02:27 |
| rick_h_ | ruh roh | 02:28 |
| snap-l | http://www.audiostream.com/content/did-logitech-just-kill-squeezebox | 02:28 |
| snap-l | Apparently Logitech discontinued the Squeezebox | 02:28 |
| rick_h_ | ugh | 02:30 |
| rick_h_ | just been using ours a ton lately | 02:30 |
| snap-l | Yeah, in favor of that dippy UE radio | 02:30 |
| snap-l | And just after the article. | 02:30 |
| rick_h_ | ugh, have to visit 'your local audiologist' to get impressions before you can get the fit headphones | 02:34 |
| snap-l | Well, I'm glad I got my article in Linux Journal this month instead of last month | 02:43 |
| rick_h_ | yea, good timing I guess | 02:44 |
| snap-l | s/last/next/ | 02:44 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I gotcha | 02:44 |
| snap-l | http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96188-New-Squeezebox-Radio | 02:44 |
| rick_h_ | well at least they're addressing the UX problems | 02:46 |
| snap-l | And it's nice they OSSed it so if they do decide to completely drop it or braindamage it, it can be recovered by the community | 02:46 |
| jrwren | OH: "nice move shuttleworth" | 02:51 |
| rick_h_ | love this https://twitter.com/alex_gaynor/status/250106469427597312 | 11:35 |
| rick_h_ | oh and morning and all that | 11:35 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Mildly deprecated? Is that like "mostly dead"? | 11:55 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: yea, can't figure that one out. "You really shouldn't use this...it might disappear...but who can say" | 11:56 |
| brousch | I'm sure a DIY replacement based on rasperrypi will be out soon | 11:58 |
| brousch | Sorry, that was last night's squeezebox discussion | 11:58 |
| snap-l | brousch: Yeah, there is a pretty strong core community | 11:59 |
| snap-l | and one of the engineers is pretty active | 11:59 |
| snap-l | but I fear what happens when he gets tired and leaves. | 12:00 |
| snap-l | I think Logitech really boned this one | 12:00 |
| rick_h_ | well, tbh, there's a need for a cleaner UX product in the line thugoh | 12:01 |
| rick_h_ | it's not competing with the sonos/google tv, apple tv stuff of the world. And I know those say TV but they're music centers | 12:02 |
| snap-l | True, but killing the existing line is not the way to do it. | 12:02 |
| rick_h_ | but with apps and such | 12:02 |
| Blazeix | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-shopping/+bug/1054282 | 12:31 |
| * rick_h_ shuts down the internet | 12:32 | |
| brousch | Unity has pr0n built-in now?! I'm switching! | 12:38 |
| snap-l | I'm of two minds on that. On the one hand, the world is not made up of your narrow minded view of what is appropriate | 12:49 |
| snap-l | On the other hand, if you're providing a shopping service in the OS, expect there to be minors using it. | 12:50 |
| snap-l | In other words: if you're an adult, grow up. If you're not an adult, you have plenty of time to find this shit out later. | 12:50 |
| rick_h_ | my problem is in the comments. pulling out marks old comments on the wallpaper options | 12:51 |
| rick_h_ | that's just troll feeding there | 12:51 |
| snap-l | Yeah, that's not appropriate | 12:51 |
| snap-l | And frankly, it's not in the same context | 12:52 |
| rick_h_ | the joys of the internet | 12:52 |
| snap-l | It's a compelling strawman | 12:52 |
| snap-l | but if my mom starts typing something into her OS "Grey" and "50 shades of..." shows up, she'll be rather perplexed. | 12:53 |
| snap-l | at least, I hope she would be, after she went on about how some 90 year old woman in one of her clubs happened to have it on her kindle. | 12:54 |
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| snap-l | (always the quiet ones) | 12:54 |
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| rick_h_ | bwuhahaha, and LP is faster for all | 15:33 |
| brousch | Go rick_h_! | 15:37 |
| snap-l | Is anyone else seeing 0 subscribers for their feeds on Feedburner? | 16:09 |
| snap-l | lococast, and all of my burned feeds are 0 | 16:10 |
| rick_h_ | dammit! amazon quit 503'ing on me and let me give you money! | 16:10 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: hmm, feed shows up but yea seeing the 0 | 16:10 |
| snap-l | strange | 16:12 |
| snap-l | http://feedburnerstatus.blogspot.com/2012/09/known-issue-subscriber-counts-and-stats.html | 16:13 |
| snap-l | At least it's a known issue. | 16:13 |
| snap-l | btw: OLF is this weekend. | 16:32 |
| snap-l | Free registration ends on Wednesday. | 16:32 |
| snap-l | Also, we're hoping to share some space with the Ohio team, so if anyone is interested in helping out, please feel free | 16:32 |
| snap-l | I'd like to get a count of everyone who can volunteer so we can plan out staffing the booth. | 16:33 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6K_n8DtDl2k is the youtube I'm watching | 17:00 |
| jcastro | rick_h_can you get me the embed url to that? | 17:01 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: https://pastebin.canonical.com/75176/ | 17:02 |
| jrwren | rofl, i typed into my squeeze window on accident and triggered repeat | 18:49 |
| jrwren | i couldn't figure out why this song always had 2 min left | 18:49 |
| snap-l | hah | 18:49 |
| jrwren | snap-l: exactly | 18:49 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: how did that make/fabric thing go? | 19:03 |
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| brousch | rick_h_: Pretty well | 19:05 |
| brousch | I'm trying fabric on another project | 19:05 |
| rick_h__ | cool | 19:05 |
| brousch | I'm struggling with the local/remote part of it | 19:05 |
| rick_h__ | yea, that's the diconnect/reason to use one vs the other | 19:05 |
| brousch | Like I want to run create_virtualenv locally and remotely, so I end up SShing into my own localhost | 19:06 |
| brousch | Seems silly to me | 19:06 |
| rick_h__ | right | 19:06 |
| brousch | But then I'm told that's actually useful for uncovering assumptions you've made or environment vars that you've set, like paths | 19:07 |
| rick_h__ | yea, but you end up coding paths that change on systems perhaps while make just defaults to the cwd | 19:07 |
| brousch | Yeah, that's exactly what I've run into | 19:08 |
| brousch | With Make my paths all work, with Fabric, I have to hardcode at least 1 path | 19:08 |
| rick_h__ | right | 19:08 |
| brousch | Which seems like it will break when I deploy | 19:09 |
| rick_h__ | http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/09/24/14071703-airplane-windows-are-sealed-for-a-reason forget the politics...but funny | 19:09 |
| brousch | I haven't tried function parameters in Make, but it's not too annoying in Fabric | 19:09 |
| rick_h__ | yea, if I've got to repeat things across 10 front end servers I'll use fabric | 19:10 |
| rick_h__ | but all fabric will be doing is calling make commands on each machine | 19:10 |
| brousch | I mnea, when I wrap something like the South commands which require a specific app as a paramter | 19:11 |
| brousch | python manage.py migrateschema <app> <--initial|--auto> | 19:13 |
| rick_h__ | right | 19:13 |
| brousch | So how would passing paramters work in Make? | 19:13 |
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| rick_h__ | so you need to use the stacking of things to setup env vars | 19:13 |
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| rick_h__ | fabric prod migrate | 19:13 |
| rick_h__ | where prod() is a function to setup the app initial/auto | 19:13 |
| brousch | Well in fabric I just use the paramters thing that's built in | 19:14 |
| brousch | fab migrateschema:<app>,<--initial> | 19:14 |
| brousch | I'm wondering how Make does that | 19:14 |
| rick_h__ | with env vars | 19:15 |
| rick_h__ | make APP=something INITIAL=true migate | 19:15 |
| rick_h__ | and then in your makefile you're looking for $APP and $INITIAL | 19:15 |
| rick_h__ | or something like that | 19:15 |
| brousch | Ah | 19:16 |
| brousch | Seems clunkier | 19:16 |
| rick_h__ | it's how I override the ini file to use. I've got a var in my Makefile BOOKIE_INI | 19:16 |
| rick_h__ | so make BOOKIE_INI=test_bookie.ini install | 19:16 |
| rick_h__ | will run make test, but with the BOOKIE_INI var overridden | 19:16 |
| brousch | I think once I understand the local/remote thing I'll like Fabric more | 19:17 |
| rick_h__ | yea | 19:18 |
| brousch | Right now, I'm using it for stuff I did with Make, and the local/remote is getting in the way | 19:19 |
| rick_h__ | right, and that's why I said your talk was good because they really are meant for two different use cases imo | 19:19 |
| brousch | Part of it is my dislike of SSH keys | 19:19 |
| brousch | I need to bite the bullet on those | 19:21 |
| rick_h__ | dude, can't live without | 19:21 |
| rick_h__ | ssh keys are one of the most amazing things ever | 19:21 |
| rick_h__ | though I do wish mass management were better and I'd use more different keys I think | 19:21 |
| snap-l | I use different keys per machine | 19:22 |
| brousch | PAsswords are in my head, keys are something I have to drag around with me | 19:22 |
| snap-l | It's really straightforward | 19:22 |
| snap-l | brousch: Passwords allow anyone access who knows the phrase | 19:22 |
| brousch | So do keys, but the phrase is a lot longer | 19:23 |
| snap-l | Passwords are like having a bouncer outside of your house. SSH Keys are like having good locks. | 19:23 |
| rick_h__ | no, they need the key and the phrase | 19:23 |
| rick_h__ | that's two bits of info vs 1 | 19:23 |
| devinheitmueller | SSH keys probably wouldn't get such user frustration if the OpenSSH people didn't do such a horrifically crappy job of exposing enough logging to figure out why they don't work. | 19:24 |
| rick_h__ | yea, I mean I would go nuts with every ssh/bzr/git connection needed a password | 19:25 |
| rick_h__ | I'm only logged into 4 machines currently with about 20 pushes to repos today | 19:28 |
| brousch | Yeah, I have always had very few machines, so it's not been a problem for me | 19:28 |
| rick_h__ | it shouldn't have but made me laugh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkDz4wMI9J8 | 20:17 |
| jrwren | anyone know nick portelli ? | 20:18 |
| jrwren | did you see the hitler gangnam style? i was laughing so much! | 20:19 |
| rick_h__ | hmm, know a few nick's but don't know last names so not sure I guess. Should I know him? | 20:20 |
| jrwren | mid michigan, but wasn't sure if he was an ubuntu guy. | 20:25 |
| snap-l | name not ringing a bell | 20:27 |
| jrwren | plus, IMO he just trolled me pretty hard, or he is really brainwashed by his .NET dev and MSFT lov. | 20:28 |
| snap-l | jrwren: That had to be an epic troll of history. | 20:29 |
| greg-g | jrwren: that is awesome (for others: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nv6C25XYps ) | 20:32 |
| greg-g | jrwren: there's a two hour version ;) | 20:32 |
| jrwren | greg-g: oh, i haven't seen teh extended version | 20:35 |
| rick_h__ | that scares me that someone would put together 2hrs | 20:36 |
| jrwren | greg-g: that one is terrible IMO | 20:36 |
| jrwren | oh, maybe only the first 15 seconds was bad. | 20:36 |
| jrwren | wtf, there is a 10hr version?!?!?!?!?! | 20:37 |
| jrwren | but holy shit did they mess up the audio on this | 20:37 |
| greg-g | oh, it was the first one for hitler gangnam :/ | 20:37 |
| jrwren | and apparently i wasn't logged into youtube when I watched a different one, becuase I cannot find it. | 20:39 |
| snap-l | FFS | 20:40 |
| snap-l | Apparently this is this generation's Macarena. | 20:40 |
| jrwren | hrm, or who let the dogs out | 20:40 |
| jrwren | I feel much more positive about gangnam style though. | 20:40 |
| jrwren | greg-g: oh yeah, this has much better audio quality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Eo5YU_ueJc | 20:40 |
| jrwren | snap-l: did you read the atlantic article about gangnam style ? | 20:43 |
| jrwren | http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/08/gangnam-style-dissected-the-subversive-message-within-south-koreas-music-video-sensation/261462/ | 20:43 |
| snap-l | jrwren: I listened to NPR. I know more than I ever cared about Gangnam style | 20:44 |
| snap-l | All I know is it got stupid when someone started mentioning Gungan style, and at that point I stopped caring. | 20:47 |
| jrwren | hahaha, i'd have liked to hear the npr piece | 20:47 |
| greg-g | yesssss https://plus.google.com/photos/108533366695714736629/albums/5791841023205899921/5791841029697780978 | 20:48 |
| jrwren | i equate gangnam style closer to livin lavida loca | 20:48 |
| jrwren | The only reason to grow a beard is for the joy of shaving it and feeling cleanly shaved again. | 20:49 |
| jcastro | greg-g, hey hippie | 20:57 |
| jcastro | I got a worm inn | 20:57 |
| jcastro | http://www.theworminn.com/ | 20:57 |
| brousch | That sounds like a bad thing | 20:58 |
| jcastro | worms are awesome | 20:58 |
| brousch | OH weird. You do it in your house? | 20:59 |
| dzho | why not? | 20:59 |
| dzho | they're quiet | 20:59 |
| dzho | not as cuddly, but less smelly, than a dog | 20:59 |
| brousch | I guess with 2 dogs and a 4 year old I'd be worried about the potential for disaster | 21:00 |
| dzho | yeah, you need a basement or something that's a little more off-limits | 21:01 |
| dzho | the scope for disaster is approximately that of the scope of a disaster of someone getting into the kitchen garbage | 21:01 |
| dzho | depending on how much worm tea you generate and let accumulate | 21:01 |
| dzho | because if you build up worm tea and someone tips it, that could get a little messy. | 21:02 |
| brousch | I have added a very sturdy wire wrap for the garbage due to dogs getting in there | 21:02 |
| dzho | yow | 21:02 |
| jcastro | dzho, so supposedly it doesn't drip much | 21:32 |
| jcastro | they come out fluffy with this one since it's more aerated than say, the solid ones that are made of plastic | 21:32 |
| jcastro | still, they recommend a bucket underneath | 21:32 |
| snap-l | Yeah, to catch all of the worm vomit. | 21:38 |
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