[00:35] woot! https://plus.google.com/116120911388966791792/posts/AzF2YfvbtoQ [00:47] Just saw it [00:47] That is awesome. [01:18] yea getting psyched to get something done. big milestone. [01:28] My only reason for using Rhythmbox nowadays is to determine the length of a playlist. Congratulations, now that doesn't even work. [01:35] OK, now it's working. Feh [01:56] snap-l, http://ue.logitech.com/en-us [01:56] looks like they relaunched everything [02:20] http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/09/23/on-the-recent-dash-improvements/#comment-660468666 [02:22] jcastro__: Damnit, I hope they don't discontinue the touch. [02:25] And hard-core Squeezebox fans will lament the lack of interoperability with existing Squeezebox products. [02:25] Stay away. [02:25] http://reviews.cnet.com/portable-audio-devices/logitech-ue-smart-radio/4505-6450_7-35419331.html [02:25] hmmm, custom fit in ear headphones... [02:27] Motherfucker. [02:28] ruh roh [02:28] http://www.audiostream.com/content/did-logitech-just-kill-squeezebox [02:28] Apparently Logitech discontinued the Squeezebox [02:30] ugh [02:30] just been using ours a ton lately [02:30] Yeah, in favor of that dippy UE radio [02:30] And just after the article. [02:34] ugh, have to visit 'your local audiologist' to get impressions before you can get the fit headphones [02:43] Well, I'm glad I got my article in Linux Journal this month instead of last month [02:44] yea, good timing I guess [02:44] s/last/next/ [02:44] yea, I gotcha [02:44] http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96188-New-Squeezebox-Radio [02:46] well at least they're addressing the UX problems [02:46] And it's nice they OSSed it so if they do decide to completely drop it or braindamage it, it can be recovered by the community [02:51] OH: "nice move shuttleworth" [11:35] love this https://twitter.com/alex_gaynor/status/250106469427597312 [11:35] oh and morning and all that [11:55] rick_h_: Mildly deprecated? Is that like "mostly dead"? [11:56] snap-l: yea, can't figure that one out. "You really shouldn't use this...it might disappear...but who can say" [11:58] I'm sure a DIY replacement based on rasperrypi will be out soon [11:58] Sorry, that was last night's squeezebox discussion [11:59] brousch: Yeah, there is a pretty strong core community [11:59] and one of the engineers is pretty active [12:00] but I fear what happens when he gets tired and leaves. [12:00] I think Logitech really boned this one [12:01] well, tbh, there's a need for a cleaner UX product in the line thugoh [12:02] it's not competing with the sonos/google tv, apple tv stuff of the world. And I know those say TV but they're music centers [12:02] True, but killing the existing line is not the way to do it. [12:02] but with apps and such [12:31] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-shopping/+bug/1054282 [12:32] * rick_h_ shuts down the internet [12:38] Unity has pr0n built-in now?! I'm switching! [12:49] I'm of two minds on that. On the one hand, the world is not made up of your narrow minded view of what is appropriate [12:50] On the other hand, if you're providing a shopping service in the OS, expect there to be minors using it. [12:50] In other words: if you're an adult, grow up. If you're not an adult, you have plenty of time to find this shit out later. [12:51] my problem is in the comments. pulling out marks old comments on the wallpaper options [12:51] that's just troll feeding there [12:51] Yeah, that's not appropriate [12:52] And frankly, it's not in the same context [12:52] the joys of the internet [12:52] It's a compelling strawman [12:53] but if my mom starts typing something into her OS "Grey" and "50 shades of..." shows up, she'll be rather perplexed. [12:54] at least, I hope she would be, after she went on about how some 90 year old woman in one of her clubs happened to have it on her kindle. === jcastro__ is now known as jcastro [12:54] (always the quiet ones) === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro [15:33] bwuhahaha, and LP is faster for all [15:37] Go rick_h_! [16:09] Is anyone else seeing 0 subscribers for their feeds on Feedburner? [16:10] lococast, and all of my burned feeds are 0 [16:10] dammit! amazon quit 503'ing on me and let me give you money! [16:10] snap-l: hmm, feed shows up but yea seeing the 0 [16:12] strange [16:13] http://feedburnerstatus.blogspot.com/2012/09/known-issue-subscriber-counts-and-stats.html [16:13] At least it's a known issue. [16:32] btw: OLF is this weekend. [16:32] Free registration ends on Wednesday. [16:32] Also, we're hoping to share some space with the Ohio team, so if anyone is interested in helping out, please feel free [16:33] I'd like to get a count of everyone who can volunteer so we can plan out staffing the booth. [17:00] jcastro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6K_n8DtDl2k is the youtube I'm watching [17:01] rick_h_can you get me the embed url to that? [17:02] jcastro: https://pastebin.canonical.com/75176/ [18:49] rofl, i typed into my squeeze window on accident and triggered repeat [18:49] i couldn't figure out why this song always had 2 min left [18:49] hah [18:49] snap-l: exactly [19:03] brousch: how did that make/fabric thing go? === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro [19:05] rick_h_: Pretty well [19:05] I'm trying fabric on another project [19:05] cool [19:05] I'm struggling with the local/remote part of it [19:05] yea, that's the diconnect/reason to use one vs the other [19:06] Like I want to run create_virtualenv locally and remotely, so I end up SShing into my own localhost [19:06] Seems silly to me [19:06] right [19:07] But then I'm told that's actually useful for uncovering assumptions you've made or environment vars that you've set, like paths [19:07] yea, but you end up coding paths that change on systems perhaps while make just defaults to the cwd [19:08] Yeah, that's exactly what I've run into [19:08] With Make my paths all work, with Fabric, I have to hardcode at least 1 path [19:08] right [19:09] Which seems like it will break when I deploy [19:09] http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/09/24/14071703-airplane-windows-are-sealed-for-a-reason forget the politics...but funny [19:09] I haven't tried function parameters in Make, but it's not too annoying in Fabric [19:10] yea, if I've got to repeat things across 10 front end servers I'll use fabric [19:10] but all fabric will be doing is calling make commands on each machine [19:11] I mnea, when I wrap something like the South commands which require a specific app as a paramter [19:13] python manage.py migrateschema <--initial|--auto> [19:13] right [19:13] So how would passing paramters work in Make? === maxsilver_ is now known as maxsilver [19:13] so you need to use the stacking of things to setup env vars === MaskedDriver_ is now known as MaskedDriver [19:13] fabric prod migrate [19:13] where prod() is a function to setup the app initial/auto [19:14] Well in fabric I just use the paramters thing that's built in [19:14] fab migrateschema:,<--initial> [19:14] I'm wondering how Make does that [19:15] with env vars [19:15] make APP=something INITIAL=true migate [19:15] and then in your makefile you're looking for $APP and $INITIAL [19:15] or something like that [19:16] Ah [19:16] Seems clunkier [19:16] it's how I override the ini file to use. I've got a var in my Makefile BOOKIE_INI [19:16] so make BOOKIE_INI=test_bookie.ini install [19:16] will run make test, but with the BOOKIE_INI var overridden [19:17] I think once I understand the local/remote thing I'll like Fabric more [19:18] yea [19:19] Right now, I'm using it for stuff I did with Make, and the local/remote is getting in the way [19:19] right, and that's why I said your talk was good because they really are meant for two different use cases imo [19:19] Part of it is my dislike of SSH keys [19:21] I need to bite the bullet on those [19:21] dude, can't live without [19:21] ssh keys are one of the most amazing things ever [19:21] though I do wish mass management were better and I'd use more different keys I think [19:22] I use different keys per machine [19:22] PAsswords are in my head, keys are something I have to drag around with me [19:22] It's really straightforward [19:22] brousch: Passwords allow anyone access who knows the phrase [19:23] So do keys, but the phrase is a lot longer [19:23] Passwords are like having a bouncer outside of your house. SSH Keys are like having good locks. [19:23] no, they need the key and the phrase [19:23] that's two bits of info vs 1 [19:24] SSH keys probably wouldn't get such user frustration if the OpenSSH people didn't do such a horrifically crappy job of exposing enough logging to figure out why they don't work. [19:25] yea, I mean I would go nuts with every ssh/bzr/git connection needed a password [19:28] I'm only logged into 4 machines currently with about 20 pushes to repos today [19:28] Yeah, I have always had very few machines, so it's not been a problem for me [20:17] it shouldn't have but made me laugh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkDz4wMI9J8 [20:18] anyone know nick portelli ? [20:19] did you see the hitler gangnam style? i was laughing so much! [20:20] hmm, know a few nick's but don't know last names so not sure I guess. Should I know him? [20:25] mid michigan, but wasn't sure if he was an ubuntu guy. [20:27] name not ringing a bell [20:28] plus, IMO he just trolled me pretty hard, or he is really brainwashed by his .NET dev and MSFT lov. [20:29] jrwren: That had to be an epic troll of history. [20:32] jrwren: that is awesome (for others: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nv6C25XYps ) [20:32] jrwren: there's a two hour version ;) [20:35] greg-g: oh, i haven't seen teh extended version [20:36] that scares me that someone would put together 2hrs [20:36] greg-g: that one is terrible IMO [20:36] oh, maybe only the first 15 seconds was bad. [20:37] wtf, there is a 10hr version?!?!?!?!?! [20:37] but holy shit did they mess up the audio on this [20:37] oh, it was the first one for hitler gangnam :/ [20:39] and apparently i wasn't logged into youtube when I watched a different one, becuase I cannot find it. [20:40] FFS [20:40] Apparently this is this generation's Macarena. [20:40] hrm, or who let the dogs out [20:40] I feel much more positive about gangnam style though. [20:40] greg-g: oh yeah, this has much better audio quality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Eo5YU_ueJc [20:43] snap-l: did you read the atlantic article about gangnam style ? [20:43] http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/08/gangnam-style-dissected-the-subversive-message-within-south-koreas-music-video-sensation/261462/ [20:44] jrwren: I listened to NPR. I know more than I ever cared about Gangnam style [20:47] All I know is it got stupid when someone started mentioning Gungan style, and at that point I stopped caring. [20:47] hahaha, i'd have liked to hear the npr piece [20:48] yesssss https://plus.google.com/photos/108533366695714736629/albums/5791841023205899921/5791841029697780978 [20:48] i equate gangnam style closer to livin lavida loca [20:49] The only reason to grow a beard is for the joy of shaving it and feeling cleanly shaved again. [20:57] greg-g, hey hippie [20:57] I got a worm inn [20:57] http://www.theworminn.com/ [20:58] That sounds like a bad thing [20:58] worms are awesome [20:59] OH weird. You do it in your house? [20:59] why not? [20:59] they're quiet [20:59] not as cuddly, but less smelly, than a dog [21:00] I guess with 2 dogs and a 4 year old I'd be worried about the potential for disaster [21:01] yeah, you need a basement or something that's a little more off-limits [21:01] the scope for disaster is approximately that of the scope of a disaster of someone getting into the kitchen garbage [21:01] depending on how much worm tea you generate and let accumulate [21:02] because if you build up worm tea and someone tips it, that could get a little messy. [21:02] I have added a very sturdy wire wrap for the garbage due to dogs getting in there [21:02] yow [21:32] dzho, so supposedly it doesn't drip much [21:32] they come out fluffy with this one since it's more aerated than say, the solid ones that are made of plastic [21:32] still, they recommend a bucket underneath [21:38] Yeah, to catch all of the worm vomit. === MaskedDriver_ is now known as MaskedDriver