goddard | whats up gangsters | 01:17 |
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bkerensa | tgm4883: yes :) even more going on in private e-mail then on the news scene | 01:26 |
goddard | the new thunderbird features are nice | 02:30 |
bkerensa | goddard: which? | 02:33 |
goddard | chat for one | 02:34 |
goddard | bkerensa: you used it | 02:46 |
bkerensa | goddard: I only use it for email | 02:47 |
goddard | what do you use on irc | 02:47 |
bkerensa | goddard: I use xchat | 03:22 |
goddard | bkerensa: its very similar | 03:30 |
bkerensa | goddard: Yeah but I use a python plugin for xchat to do ircop stuff on freenode and plus I crash Thunderbird far too much for it to be my irc client :) | 03:32 |
tgm4883 | bkerensa, I can't say I 100% disagree with all the hoopla | 03:53 |
tgm4883 | less from a trust/privacy standpoint, and more from a "there needs to be a separate lens for this" | 03:54 |
bkerensa | tgm4883: also despite marks post and comment saying there is a privacy policy | 03:54 |
bkerensa | I can assure that is not true | 03:54 |
bkerensa | there is not currently any privacy policy that covers how Canonical handles the data | 03:54 |
bkerensa | :) | 03:54 |
tgm4883 | well not a public one ayway | 03:54 |
bkerensa | in fact in my blog post about zeitgeist I mentioned this and mpt from Canonical Design confirmed | 03:54 |
tgm4883 | which since this isn't released yet, probably not necessary. | 03:54 |
bkerensa | well | 03:55 |
bkerensa | they are collecting data now | 03:55 |
bkerensa | and handling it | 03:55 |
bkerensa | there must be thousands of people running 12.10 already | 03:55 |
tgm4883 | in either case, I still don't think it should be in the main home lens | 03:55 |
bkerensa | +1 | 03:55 |
tgm4883 | could be thousands of people that don't care though | 03:55 |
bkerensa | I wonder how what some of the local canonical folks think about it being in the home dash | 03:55 |
bkerensa | I would personally not mind a shopping lens | 03:56 |
bkerensa | but totally seperate | 03:56 |
tgm4883 | bkerensa, well supposedly there is a separate lens | 03:57 |
tgm4883 | since the package name is unity-lens-shopping or something to that effect | 03:57 |
tgm4883 | although strictly speaking, it's the scope that would need to specify if it's available to global search | 03:58 |
tgm4883 | personally I'd just like them to stop breaking my scope in 12.10 | 03:59 |
bkerensa | tgm4883: yeah and the lens also pings productsearch.ubuntu.com every two minutes regardless if you are doing searches | 04:32 |
bkerensa | tgm4883: what is your scope? | 04:32 |
tgm4883 | bkerensa, the mythtv scope | 04:42 |
tgm4883 | it's been broken twice now in 12.10 due to changes they've made | 04:42 |
goddard | what does mozilla use for its plugin system | 04:46 |
goddard | bkerensa: thats werid my thunderbird never crashes | 04:48 |
goddard | how do you make it crash? | 04:48 |
bkerensa | goddard: deleting 4000 e-mails at a time | 05:28 |
bkerensa | :) | 05:28 |
goddard | ahh haven't tried that yet | 05:28 |
bkerensa | gnight | 08:53 |
nathwill | hi all | 15:22 |
nathwill | bkerensa, not running proposed | 15:23 |
nathwill | should i? | 15:38 |
bkerensa | nathwill: idk up to you | 18:32 |
nathwill | why would i want to? | 18:32 |
bkerensa | nathwill: idk get proposed updates? | 18:33 |
nathwill | lol | 18:33 |
nathwill | ok... more breakage? | 18:33 |
bkerensa | I have had very little breakage | 18:33 |
bkerensa | nothing has broken for me I find remotely essential | 18:34 |
bkerensa | :) | 18:34 |
nathwill | :) | 18:34 |
bkerensa | nathwill: so I made front page Slashdot, HN, Reddit, Distrowatch | 18:34 |
nathwill | cool. might do it | 18:34 |
bkerensa | and some site called tweakers.net | 18:34 |
nathwill | oh? | 18:34 |
bkerensa | lol | 18:34 |
bkerensa | nathwill: yeah | 18:34 |
nathwill | is this your "quit fud'ing bitches" article? | 18:34 |
bkerensa | yes | 18:34 |
nathwill | it was a good article, i read it this wknd | 18:34 |
bkerensa | but I did get one thing sorted which was there is no privacy policy | 18:35 |
nathwill | did it cripple your site? | 18:35 |
bkerensa | :) | 18:35 |
bkerensa | so last night Mark put me in touch with Canonical's General Counsel | 18:35 |
nathwill | well they should do a better job explaining where the data's coming from | 18:35 |
nathwill | interesting | 18:35 |
bkerensa | and they were not aware of this lens or the privacy manager | 18:35 |
nathwill | haha | 18:35 |
nathwill | wow | 18:35 |
bkerensa | so idk I guess they are writing a privacy policy now | 18:35 |
bkerensa | :) | 18:35 |
nathwill | yeah... i maean, an easy "online search results" toggle would be good on the privacy page | 18:36 |
nathwill | and i think make people ease up a bit | 18:36 |
nathwill | i do really like the previews, and really like the incorporation of software-center info | 18:37 |
nathwill | it's really shaping up into a sexy desktop | 18:38 |
bkerensa | yeah | 18:38 |
bkerensa | I would prefer the shopping lens have its own area though instead of being in the home | 18:38 |
bkerensa | and more shopping providers would be nice so you could find the best price | 18:38 |
bkerensa | :D | 18:38 |
nathwill | well, home incorporates results from everywhere... | 18:38 |
nathwill | so... even if it had its own lense, to keep the paradigm, it'd have to be shown on home too | 18:39 |
nathwill | i agree the best way to exclude is use the specific lens relevant to the search you're performing | 18:39 |
bkerensa | c_smith: When you are having flgrx issues is it on 12.10? | 19:41 |
goddard | the amazon lens seems cool | 19:52 |
goddard | i love amazon | 19:52 |
bkerensa | slangasek: if I see a patch on a foundation bug and it is irrelevant to the source package can I remove the patch tag so nobody wastes time reviewing it? | 19:53 |
bkerensa | The bug in question is Bug #1055433 | 19:53 |
lubotu1 | Launchpad bug 1055433 in acerhk (Ubuntu) "Accelerometer non functional (acer-wmi) in Acer W500/501" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1055433 | 19:53 |
slangasek | bkerensa: if the "patch" is not a patch, then by all means yes | 19:59 |
slangasek | bkerensa: what do you mean "on a foundation bug", though? | 19:59 |
slangasek | acerhk isn't a package the foundations team supports | 19:59 |
bkerensa | slangasek: not a foundation bug I don't think but your bot commented on it. . | 19:59 |
slangasek | ah, ok | 19:59 |
bkerensa | slangasek: the patch does not appear to be sane since it applies to a file not found in the source package | 20:00 |
slangasek | the bot automatically adds a patch tag for all new "patch" attachments | 20:00 |
bkerensa | ah | 20:00 |
slangasek | it's housekeeping, not gospel ;) | 20:00 |
bkerensa | ;) | 20:00 |
bkerensa | slangasek: so for bugs we have patches on is it more likely they will land if they had a MP over a attached patch? | 20:01 |
slangasek | I don't know | 20:01 |
bkerensa | k | 20:02 |
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