LazerChickentwitchie: ok so ive found that if i reboot with the card in it pushes the video through it ... but its glitchy flashes and i cant simply just plug into the onboard .. in order to see correctly i have to pull it out and reboot00:00
AmarokNelgugh, if desktop effects works with low fps, how could it not work with a 140 fps?00:00
AmarokNelgive got a computer that uses 60 fps, and runs smooth on neverball, and works great with desktop affects00:01
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LazerChickenso i am now setting with the card out on my desk ...can we pretend im trying to use it for the 1st time .. what is the prosedure?00:01
hellslingerAmarokNelg: I believe that GLX is running, but the rendering is happeing through software00:01
hellslingerEven a very old and basic opengl hardware card can do better than 140fps on glxgears00:02
AmarokNelgOh btw, i didn't see anything about cpu on the document you gave me00:02
hellslingerlook at page 1000:02
hellslingersorry, page 1300:02
hellslinger"maximum cpu..."00:03
AmarokNelgyeah, then the document is wrong, cause even i get 100% cpu taken on a non-accelerated system00:05
twitchieLazerChicken: personally I would disable onboard and just run with the pci-e card if something goes wrong you can always reset you bios back to default via the switch/jumper on your motherboard00:05
hellslingerAmarokNelg: I don't. I have an old laptop with i915 graphics that doesn't use more than 2% cpu00:07
hellslingerAmarokNelg: What GPU do you have?00:07
hellslingeryeah, what video card do you have?00:08
AmarokNelgAdvanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF00:09
hellslingerwow, that's an oooollldd card00:09
hellslingerwhat cpu do you have?00:10
AmarokNelgit had 3d acceleration... untill it resently got on the "Deprecated Systems and Drivers" list00:10
hellslingerthat's at least a 10 year old card00:10
AmarokNelgi have an old computer too00:10
AmarokNelgcpu is only 1.6 GB of speed00:10
AmarokNelgInfact, it used to be pretty fast00:11
hellslingerwhat cpu is it?00:11
hellslingerk6-II 266 MHz? :)00:11
AmarokNelgAll i know thats its 1.6 GB of speed00:11
hellslingeryeah you could probably upgrade that card for 10 dollars and get 3D acceleration back00:12
hellslingerwell if it is a PCI or AGP card, you could buy a replacement ATI HD series or NVidia 5xxx/6xxx PCI/AGP off ebay (old and used, of course)00:13
hellslingerfor 10 or 20 dollars total cost00:13
AmarokNelgI also have a diamond card. Want me to use that? It only is 640x480 instead of 1280x1024!!00:13
hellslingerDiamond? wow that is really really old. That's probably a TNT/TNT200:14
AmarokNelgaltho, its missing...00:14
hellslingerThat will not work on a modern linux system with good support00:14
hellslingeris your system a desktop?00:14
AmarokNelgyes :P00:15
hellslingerYou could probably buy an entire new system for < $100 That was much much faster and had a supported video driver00:16
AmarokNelgOh your kidding. Why the heck would i do that00:17
AmarokNelgAfter i fixed this system up00:17
goddardwhats the thunderbird chat like?00:17
goddardanyone using it00:17
blackshirtamaroklng, is your graphic card support for 3d?00:18
AmarokNelgUsed to be00:18
hellslingerAmarokNelg: Have it your way... But if you want supported 3D you'll have to get something that is less than 8 years old00:18
AmarokNelgts on the deprecated list now00:18
AmarokNelgIn 10 years from now, im sure id be using the old mesa drivers00:19
hellslingerI tried to get ubuntu 10 running with a GeForce 4400 ti and the drivers were no longer supported by the latest Xorg00:19
hellslingerand that card is only about 7 years old00:19
AmarokNelginfact, i should downgrade so this ill work right00:19
blackshirtamaroknelg, if your graphic was not capable to run 3d ....00:19
AmarokNelgblackshirt: :|00:20
AmarokNelgOk ill be installin the old drivers00:20
hellslingerAmarokNelg: let me know if they work, I'm interested to see...00:20
blackshirti think maybe better you stick with the suite one...i mean the old one...00:21
AmarokNelgunfortunly, to keep from upgrading th drivers automaticly (removing the gl support), ill have to pin it in synaptic00:23
AmarokNelgit would be fun if i could edit debian packages, that would make my life alot easyer on computers00:24
blackshirtamaroknelg,tehbically you can do it00:25
xorgnaktheyre always the cancerous growth.00:25
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AmarokNelgi should know how00:26
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AmarokNelgI plan to make my own operating system based off of debian...00:26
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blackshirtamaroknelg, what do you want to edit ?? Some meta data or bianry one?00:26
blackshirtamaroknelg, thats a great step00:27
blackshirtif you want to change binary, you sohould recompile it from sources00:27
AmarokNelgmaking a different package name... Like libgl1-mesa-dri-old00:28
AmarokNelgand the description for older videocard support or somethin lkie that00:28
rileypquestion about vlc how is the tracklist order selected to play from a dir I thought it would work off the track number in the metadata?00:29
tortibHello everyone00:32
AmarokNelgi cant downgrade my driver. It would remove X and its drivers00:32
tortibhow can I see which packages I have installed? more specifically which driver version of the ATI drivers i'm running.00:32
blackshirtamaroknelg, you should learn related to debian packaging00:32
AmarokNelgdriver version of the ATI drivers - really? check lspci00:32
tortibthat doesn't tell me the driver version00:33
blackshirtamaroknelg, downgrade was not recommended00:33
AmarokNelgX.Org X server -- ATI r128 display driver00:34
AmarokNelgthats if you have ati rage 12800:34
tortibyeah I don't have an xserver command00:34
tortibI don't have the xserver command00:35
AmarokNelgts suppost to be in your package manager00:35
tortibI'm running 3 ATI 6950s00:35
tortibi'm using a shell00:35
tortibis synaptic ncurses based?00:35
tortibdoesn't look like it00:36
L3toptortib: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A300:36
AmarokNelgdo you want: xserver-xorg-video-r128 - X.Org X server -- ATI r128 display driver; xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI r5xx-r7xx alternate display driver; fglrx-driver - non-free ATI/AMD RadeonHD display driver; or xserver-xorg-video-r128 - X.Org X server -- ATI r128 display driver?00:37
tortibdpkg -l was the answer00:37
defaultroi finished installing the latest ubuntu. The internet is very slow00:37
defaultroi need to open terminal, where do I do it?00:37
tortibto show my what packages i have installed on my system00:37
tortibthanks for the help anyways00:37
L3topdpkg -l will not tell you the kernel in use TorpedoSkyline00:37
TorpedoSkylinelol L3top00:38
L3topand no... he would not want nor could he use that driver... sorry TorpedoSkyline autocomplete00:38
L3tophe burned out00:38
|Anthony|what is happening regarding consolekit and udev having been merged into systemd?00:39
TorpedoSkylineno problem L3top =)00:39
defaultrohey folks, how do I open terminal?00:40
javierf_hi! In ubuntu 12.04 unity, if I open the dash, it opens but it's transparent, what make difficult to see all the icons with their names. In all the applications I know to configure that (MyUnity, Ubuntu Tweak) it is set to 0% opacity, but that's not what actually happens. I've been googling the bug, but nothing about it. Someone knows how to fix that? Thanks a lot!00:40
|Anthony|defaultro, open the dash and type terminal. it should come up in there00:41
TreaverHoerigCan someone do me a quick favor.00:42
L3topnot without more information TreaverHoerig :P00:43
TreaverHoerigL3top are you on Ubuntu 12.0400:43
L3topI am on a lot of things.00:43
L3topI can get to an ubu precise if need be.00:44
defaultroah, i have to type it :) trying it now00:44
defaultrowhat's the deefault root password00:44
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo00:44
L3topThere is no spoon.00:45
TreaverHoerigIs anyone here on Ubuntu 12.04 I need a few files from the Icons folder if someone could help.00:45
mmediamanCan anyone here answer a question about Adobe Flash Player Plugin?00:45
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.00:45
IdleOneTreaverHoerig: why not boot a live cd a copy what you need00:46
mmediamanWhy does Adobe Flash Plugin not seem to work in FireFox on Ununtu 12.04.  The symptom is just a black screen for all Flash windows.00:46
TreaverHoerigCan someone go to : /usr/share/icons and copy the Humanity folder, ubuntu-mono-dark, ubuntu-mono-light. Then upload them to dropbox or something.00:47
toafanMy KDE install doesn't seem to have Alt+Space enabled by default, and after some poking around I still can't seem to find how to enable it.  Any ideas?00:47
* n0sq wishes that they'd make mail servers easier to use00:48
toafanmmediaman: is it Firefox-only, or does flash work in other browsers?00:49
L3topTreaverHoerig: dpkg -L is your friend. Find the package the images are associated with, and download the package. .deb packages are simply ar compressed. you can extract their contents and do as you wish with them.00:49
TreaverHoerigL3top Idk how to do that. I just copied over the files trying to follow instructions to change the icons00:49
TreaverHoerigBut it was for 12.10 and I didn't realize it00:50
defaultrosomething is wrong. I was able to acquire ip address from my wifi. However, it cannot ping it.00:50
mmediamanI haven't tried Flash from another browser, only FF that came with Ubuntu install.00:50
L3topmmediaman: how did you install flash?00:50
toafanmmediaman: what kind of system are you on?  I've got a box with the same symptom, but flash just doesn't work at all on that machine00:50
mmediamanSoftware Center and also tried using Flash-Aid00:51
defaultroLTS ubuntu during install saw my access point. It was able to acquire ip. netstat -rn shows the route and default gateway. HOwever, it cannot ping it :(00:51
mmediamanMachine is Dell Inspiron 1501 laptop.00:51
TreaverHoerigCan someone please help me out and get me those 3 folders.00:52
defaultropinging is also very intermittent, it responds with destination host unreachable and later it would respond00:52
defaultrosomething is wrong with the network driver :(00:52
mmediamanStrange thing also is that when I visit adobe.com to download Flash, there is no DOWNLOAD button anywhere to be found.00:52
L3top# dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/cab_extract.png                        cabextract: /usr/share/icons/cab_extract.png root@dcerouter:/usr/share/icons# apt-cache policy cabextract         cabextract:      Installed: 1.2-3+lenny1build0.10.04.100:53
defaultrowhat is wrong with Ubuntu? Anyone here knows how to troubleshoot network?00:53
n0sqmmediaman: i believe you need javascript enabled00:53
L3top!info cabextract00:54
ubottucabextract (source: cabextract): Microsoft Cabinet file unpacker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4-1 (precise), package size 40 kB, installed size 188 kB00:54
n0sqdefaultro: check ifconfig and route outputs00:54
toafan!info kwin00:54
ubottuPackage kwin does not exist in precise00:54
defaultron0sq, it looks fine00:55
defaultrowlan0 has an ip00:55
defaultronetstat -rn shows proper route00:55
defaultronow it is showing destination hhost unreachable00:55
defaultroit is so friggin weird00:55
FloodBot1defaultro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:55
mmediamanWow, Thanks n0sq !   I would never have guessed that Javascript was required for Flash to work.00:55
L3toptoafan: to peek into ubottus brain /msg ubottu !info thing-you-want00:55
TreaverHoerigdefaultro do you have 12.04 LTS?00:55
TreaverHoerigCan you help me out?00:55
defaultroinstalled it 30 mins ago00:55
defaultroLOL, I have the one who has a problem00:56
L3topTreaverHoerig: you aren't paying attention. You can do this without people having to send you things.00:56
defaultrothe interface of ubuntu is nice but not sure if I chose the right distro00:56
L3topTreaverHoerig: Do not hurrang people seeking support to help you do what you can do yourself, and learn a thing or two in the meantime... very easily.00:56
defaultronever had an issue with fedora00:56
TreaverHoerigDefaultro what do you need help with. L3top can you help me get the files back?00:57
L3topdefaultro: Can you please describe what you are doing a bit better? The install did not reach network ootb having route?00:57
mmediaman@n0sq thanks!00:58
defaultrofound a solution and hopefully it friggin works00:58
defaultrooptions ath9k nohwcrupt=1, not sure how my wife will figure this out! LOL00:58
L3top!info ubuntu-mono | TreaverHoerig00:59
ubottuTreaverHoerig: ubuntu-mono (source: ubuntu-mono): Ubuntu Mono Icon theme. In component main, is optional. Version 0.0.40 (precise), package size 396 kB, installed size 3448 kB00:59
TreaverHoerigDefaultro can you help me now? :)00:59
TreaverHoerigWhat does that do for me?00:59
L3topIt is the package containing what you want.00:59
devslashi have a few tasks that I want to load at startup (like apache,mount hard drive etc). normally I have to do sudo to start these things. is there an easier way to have them autoload at startup01:00
L3topsudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-mono01:00
TreaverHoerigHow do I download it01:00
|Anthony|what is happening regarding consolekit and udev having been merged into systemd?01:00
L3topdevslash: upstart programs launch with root priv.01:00
TreaverHoerigSweet how do I get Humanity now?01:00
devslashhow do i do that01:00
L3topTreaverHoerig: apt-cache search humanity01:01
L3topfind the package you need... same instructions01:01
Danno_on Lubuntu is there a way to launch system settings via terminal as my system settings menu has disappeared01:01
tortibI just upgraded from natty narwhal 11.10 and i'm having some problems with my video driveres, they're not performing as well as they were before and I want to downgrade them to what I had before.01:01
tortibhow can I go about doing that?01:01
TreaverHoerigThanks(: You helped me and I learned a new command! :)01:01
ubottuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.01:02
tortibi don't want to downgrade the entire system01:02
tortibjust the drivers for the video01:02
L3toptortib: what is the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA01:03
mmediamanAny opnions about how safe Ubuntu is from malicious website attacks or infection to a network that Ubuntu machine is connected to or via USB drive used to transfer stuff??01:03
tortib04:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Cayman PRO [AMD Radeon 6900 Series] [1002:6719]01:03
tortib05:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Cayman PRO [AMD Radeon 6900 Series] [1002:6719]01:03
tortib0a:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Cayman PRO [AMD Radeon 6900 Series] [1002:6719]01:03
toafantortib: maybe an older version of driver package?01:03
drpoois it possible to mount an encrypted home folder from an external usb and NOT using a LiveCD??01:04
L3topah... that was you... lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A3 | grep -i module01:04
L3topI only need one01:04
tortib        Kernel modules: fglrx, radeon01:04
L3topyou dont have a module in use?01:05
toafanmmediaman: it'd depend on the type of attack.  For example, Ubuntu won't be any safer against javascript-based or 'phishing' attacks than Mac or Windows01:05
garthkPrecise under Xen: after applying some updates, I can't boot because of problems with the pygrub parser. I can't boot into single user mode the way I have been, either. Any ideas? Boot failure log in Xen: https://raw.github.com/gist/7b860a6c684cbbae5dad/5dcb8dfb90291d56e6d922ef704ec67787d7a824/bootfail.log01:05
tortibfglrx is being used yes01:05
L3toptortib: lsmod | grep fglrx01:05
tortibL3top: fglrx is being used01:05
tortibi already ran lsmod01:05
tortibit's being used01:05
Danno_on Lubuntu is there a way to launch system settings via terminal as my system settings menu has disappeared01:05
L3topand you want to revert to radeon?01:05
garthkFailed attempted boot flags to get single user mode, which now just gets me the same grub error: -- quiet console=hvc0 partman/default_filesystem=ext3 rw init=/bin/bash01:05
tortibthe thing is i want an older version01:05
tortibif that's what the older version is yes01:06
woot-0854how do you modify tty1-6 screensaver time?01:06
crougierhi i am trouble recovering my windows boot screen01:06
toafanmmediaman: Windows virus won't run on Ubuntu period, unless you 1) set up wine (or similar) and 2) run it _on purpuse_01:06
garthkSo, how do I get this node back up? And, how do I avoid apt-get's preserved old Linux images staying around, and/or those resulting in nested grub menus pygrub can't handle, and/or fixing the parsing problem with nested grub menus? ww.gossamer-threads.com/lists/xen/users/22870901:06
tortibL3top: i want to use an older version of the Driver.01:06
crougierI have been trying everything I can find01:06
bennypr0fanehello, I can't get my wifi to work. I need broadcom proprietary driver. Jockey finds it, but when I try to activate it, I get permission denied and it never asks for my password. how can I do this as root?01:07
L3toptortib: I don't think you do... I am fairly versed in gpu drivers... my guess is that there is another conflict causing the problem, and an older fglrx will only make things worse. Radeon is the open source version of the driver.01:07
tortibThe open source version wont work01:07
tortibI use this machine for bitcoin mining if you know what that is01:07
tortibso i need the driver that worked before and gave me the full potential of my video cards01:07
tortibthis new driver lower my hash rate on each card01:07
L3topsure it will... just not to the level you require...01:08
crougierGenerating grub.cfg ...01:08
crougierFound Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda101:08
crougierSkipping Windows 7 (loader) on Wubi system01:08
crougierFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-12-generic01:08
crougierFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-12-generic01:08
crougierFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-12-generic01:08
FloodBot1crougier: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:08
tortibL3top: what do you mean?01:08
L3topyes... I get it... what I am telling you is that it is not going to help moving to an older version... however... if you want to prove me right I am happy to help you do so.01:08
mmediamanThanks @toafan. where can I get more information about this?  My firefox warns against visiting some site because they are know attack sites, so I was wondering if visiting them from the Ubuntu platform makes me imune to attack.01:08
tortibwhy wont moving to an older version not help, it was working before I upgraded.01:09
toafanbennypr0fane: I forget what the commandline name of jockey is, but you'd want to open a terminal and try `sudo <jockey>`01:09
bennypr0fanedifferent issue: I want to switch desktop environment. I'm on Bodhi Linux, which is basically Ubuntu 12.04 with Enlightenment desktop. Now I installed Unity, but how can I make my pc always boot into a Unity session?01:10
bennypr0fanetoafan, jockey with the <> around it?01:10
xorgnakwhy dont you just install ubuntu and then install the packages you need from Bhodi?01:11
bennypr0fanebcs I wanted to do it the other way round01:11
toafanbennypr0fane: no, I forget what command goes there.  by <jockey> I mean 'find out what the actuall command to run jockey is and put that there'01:11
bennypr0fanewhat does it matter01:11
crougierI am having issues recovering my windows boot screen. IN Easy BCD i set the time to 0 thinking I could use grub. Not the case with grub 3. Is there a way to get it back without using a windows recovery disk because I have a net book.  Generating grub.cfg ... Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1 Skipping Windows 7 (loader) on Wubi system Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-12-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-12-gen01:11
toafanbennypr0fane: well, on my system I just log into the DE I want, and it remembers what I used so it uses it next time.  But Bohdi may have a different login screen/gretter01:12
excervohello guys, how do i restore google chrome to its default setting? I'm using 12.401:12
toafanexcervo: how clean do you want it?  eg, you want to keep bookmarks?01:13
bennypr0faneright now I have LXDM autologin enabled how would I turn it off?01:13
excervotoafan, i want to clear up bookmarks too01:13
snwhexcervo, go to ~/.config and delete the google-chrome folder01:14
bennypr0fanetoafan: hah, it's jockey-gtk!01:15
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toafanbennypr0fane: ah, I was thinking gtk-jockey.  Did it work?01:15
bennypr0fanetoafan: jockey-gtk. Driver is now active but wireless card still not available. why doesn't jockey just ask me for my pwd though?01:17
excervosnwh, where is ./config located?01:17
bennypr0fanedo I need to reboot maybe?01:17
wilee-nileebennypr0fane, You might like to know that there is a #bodhilinux channel if needed.01:17
bennypr0faneI do know01:17
toafanexcervo: it's a hidden folder.  if you're in a terminal, just cd .config01:18
bennypr0fanebut this is more of an issue related to my godawful wifi card01:18
lawltoadHi, I want to run a home server on which I can manage a folder hierarchy01:18
toafanbennypr0fane: yeah, a reboot is probably neccesary01:18
bennypr0faneit'd be just the same, be it in Bodhi or Ubuntu01:18
jriblawltoad: go on...01:19
excervotoafan, i only found chromium inside /.config folder not google-chrome01:19
garthkOk, to summarise: if you run XenServer and Ubuntu and use apt-get dist-upgrade, it's quite probable you'll trash your VM's ability to boot. The process to recover is not well documented, and might well require preparation in advance of the problem, leaving you up shit creek if you didn't know about the problem before trying to apply them security patches.01:19
blackshirtlaltoad, what you mean with home server?01:19
lawltoadsorry, more specifically, i want to beable to open up a web browser, point it to my IP, and then upload and dowload folders from that directory01:19
bennypr0faneactually, I've gone through this whole thing already in Lubuntu, except Wifi started working once I installed the STA driver01:19
garthkExample work-around which isn't working for me: http://randomlinuxnotes.wordpress.com/tag/grub2/01:20
bennypr0fanewill try reboot - brb thanks toafan!01:20
garthkGoogle search showing a) I'm not the only person running into this, b) it's been around for a while, and c) no easy solution:01:20
toafanexcervo: well, try that?  how did you install chrome?01:20
snwhexcervo, in your home folder if you push ALT+H to show the hidden dot folders01:20
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mirajlawltoad , apache would work01:21
garthkGoogle search showing a) I'm not the only person running into this, b) it's been around for a while, and c) no easy solution: https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+xen+%22unknown+directive+load_video%2201:21
excervotoafan it's loaded with it since i installed 12.401:21
CellDid ubuntu have a generic kernel update recently?01:22
toafanexcervo: installed by default, then?  You've got Chromium, so the .config/chromium folder is what you're after01:22
Cellok good01:22
Celldoes the ubuntu package manager/software center perform verification (mdsums or gpg) on downloaded software/updates before it applies them?01:23
excervoguys thanks for prompt response, it worked like a charm01:23
goddardCell: yeah01:23
lawltoadmiraj, Well I was looking for some package with the webinterface, security managemnt and all already01:24
lawltoadnot a roll your own, I'm pretty shitty with that stuff01:24
blackshirtcell, every packages has been signed...01:24
wilee-nileeCell, If you are missing a gpg it should tell you from an apt-get anyway01:24
blackshirtcell,if you try to dowload from untrusted source,apt would warn you01:25
garthkWill trade help for newbies if anyone can help solve my can't-boot-because-of-pygrub problem.01:25
blackshirt!info pygrub01:25
ubottuPackage pygrub does not exist in precise01:25
mirajlawltoad, if you're using a web browser with ftp browsing support (like mozilla) then vsftpd is easy enough to config01:26
blackshirtgarthk,what is pygrub?01:26
excervogarthk, have you tried grub-repair?01:26
toafanlawltoad: I've heard of OwnCloud, might be worth looking into?01:27
garthkubottu blackshirt excervo I installed Precise under XenServer 5.6. I applied a kernel update. Seems that shoved stuff into the grub conf that XenServer's boot loader can't cope with. So, now my host is hosed. I can't even boot into single user mode to try grub-repair etc.01:27
ubottugarthk: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:27
toafangarthk: can you acess the FS? if not, you're pretty much out of luck01:27
L3topgarthk: chroot the install01:28
L3topgarthk: from live boot01:28
wilee-nileegarthk, Have you taken a look here.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed01:28
lawltoadtoafan, looks delicious01:28
excervoI mean boot-repair, my bad01:28
lawltoadtoafan, ITS IN THE REPOS01:28
lawltoad--sorry caps01:29
toafananyone know how to bind Alt-Space to the window menu (or operations menu?) in KDE/KWin?01:29
garthkOk, trying live boot per L3top.01:29
defaultrowhat could be my ubuntu doing? it's bringing down my wireless connections?01:33
defaultroi turned it off and everything is stable now01:33
blackshirtdefaultro, can you describe more detail?01:33
mirajdefaultro; it's own? or everyone else's ?01:33
defaultroi installed LTS about an hour ago. It was able to acquire ip but wasn't able to go to the internet. routing table looks good using netstat -rn01:34
defaultrothen, my kids went to me and all of them asked "is the internet down" LOL01:35
garthkOh, FFS. I can't boot into single-user mode from the DVD because I don't get the opportunity to hit any keys to control the way it boots.01:35
garthkHmm. Maybe -- will help.01:35
mirajdefaultro; so it's bringing down everyone else's connections?01:35
defaultrothe wifi on my ubuntu is very intermittent01:36
blackshirtdefaultro, ya can connect to some wifi connection available,but can't go to browse?01:36
garthk /bin/bash not found… kernel panic!01:36
blackshirtdefaultro,is your dns setup correctly?01:36
blackshirtgarthk,look bad01:36
L3topgarthk: some things should be mounted prior to attempting chroot... but yeah... that looks bad.01:37
L3topgarthk: I assumed you mounted the install... can you browse it?01:38
garthkOh, poo. That's on ubuntu-12.04.1-server-amd64.iso… is that also a live combo DVD? Might need ubuntu-12.04.1-dvd-amd64.iso.01:38
SmaxieHi guuys.  Im not a noive by any means, but I just picked up a used Dell D630 Latitude notebook today for cheap.  I threw ubuntu on it, and normall broadcom and such is easy to get going.  But apparently not this one.  It was picked up on first boot but it needed a fiirmware package from Jockey, so I inastalled that, and now the device doesnt show under netwqorkmanager or iwconfig01:38
SmaxieIf someone could help me out that would be great.  It appears it's a Broadcom STA card, according to Jockey.  The name in windows device manager cbrands it dell, which is of no usew01:39
bennypr0fanemy unity desktop is broken. It loads just an empty wall paper. there is a reaction to rightclick and keyboard input, but nothing to click01:39
garthkL3top, I can boot the Ubuntu install process but not pop a shell so I can repair the existing install.01:39
tortibL3top: how can i set my main desktop and login manager to XFCE4?01:40
garthkI can rebuild this node quickly because I use Puppet. If I do, though, I'm worried that on the very next kernel patch I'll end up back in this situation again, with Ubuntu shoving stuff into the grub config file that Xen can't cope with.01:40
WXZwhy doesn't super+n invert virtualbox?01:40
SmaxieIver also trie4d install b43-fwcutter, but that did nothing01:40
tortibor if someone else can answer that question that would be great01:40
bennypr0fanetoafan the new wlan driver is working now though!01:41
wilee-nileeSmaxie, I would assume the actual card might help, does this command show it.  lspci | grep Broadcom01:41
garthkWith this live DVD download predicted to take an absurd 8h, though, I guess reinstall-from-scratch is my best option.01:41
Smaxie ya it does01:41
L3toptortib: check /etc/X11/default-display-manager01:41
Smaxieone sec01:41
jagginesstortib, if it's installed, then logout and choose the 'gear icon'01:41
garthkAnd, figuring out what an unbeatable grub conf looks like, and setting up Nagios to warn me if the box looks unbootable.01:41
mirajgarthk; there's no law saying you must update your kernel every time there's a new patch available01:41
L3topgarthk: you are in a dangerous position. Are you able to successfully mount the suspect drive/01:42
tortibjagginess: where is this 'gear' icon?01:42
tortibi'm on 11.1001:42
SmaxieIts a BCM41101:42
bennypr0fanetortib what happens when you boot? don't you get to choose a desktop?01:42
SmaxieBroacom 802.11/b/g01:42
tortibi have auto login set for one of my accounts01:42
jagginesstortib, select username, then click the gear icon beside your  name..01:42
tortibit logs into gdm automatically01:42
tortibi don't want to have to do that every time though01:42
SmaxieI have the wifi switch to on, btw01:42
garthkL3top: if this node is toast, I just blow its keys and rebuild with Puppet. It'll take about 15min. I'm trying to figure out the recovery, though, in case next time I'm dealing with a node with important data.01:42
jagginesstortib, ok, so whatever option you have under gdm.. if its not there then a link wasnt made for it (and you may need to make one manually, somewhere in /usr/share)01:43
L3toptortib: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager01:43
garthkmiraj: No. Nor is there a law that says that my host should survive any reboot, let alone one after a kernel update. It'd make my work easier, though.01:43
L3topgarthk: I cannot answer your questions unless you answer mine.01:44
bennypr0fanebtw I loaded enlightenment now. at login I get default, Ubuntu, Enlightenment, Ubuntu and Ubuntu 2D. Yes Ubuntu is there twice, and Ubuntu2D doesn't let me log in01:44
L3topgarthk: Can you MOUNT the drive01:44
garthk"Ubuntu: a great server OS as long as you don't mind never applying security updates in case your node doesn't wake up again" doesn't make that awesome a slogan, though. :)   (Unfair: it's the Xen+Ubuntu combination that's making this hard.)01:44
L3toptortib: adjust the file as necessary01:44
mirajgarthk, so try centos01:45
llaskinhi, i seem to get a bunch of "firefox <defunct>" processes showing up in my PS list.  Is there anyone who give me a reason to why these are appearing(and taking up memory)?  They seem to be dead ghost firefox processes.  Or perhaps a way to kill them all every 5 minutes(all defunct firefox processes)01:45
garthkL3top, I repeat: I have no bootable anything from which I can pop a shell and then mount anything. So, I can't answer your questions. Once I download this live image, then I can get a shell. Until then, I'm somewhat stuck.01:45
L3topgarthk: A bazillion newbs manage to update security without destroying their systems... don't make this an assault on the OS... it will not bode well.01:45
garthkmiraj: "Ubuntu! If at first you don't succeed, well, try CentOS." isn't that good either.01:45
L3topgarthk: I am asking... in a live cd... can you mount the drive01:46
Smaxiewill_i_am: ive tried some stuff ive found on the forums and such, but im not finding anyuthiung that works01:46
wilee-nileeSmaxie, with that card and ubuntu only about 4 pages of google hits and only two with 12.04, not all on that card even.01:46
garthkL3top, I assure you I'll let you know once I finish downloading this live DVD.01:46
WXZhow can I invert the colors for virtualbox?01:46
Smaxieweilits the sta driver01:46
Smaxienot b4301:46
L3topgarthk: I want to help you fix this... you are making me less motivated to do so.01:46
L3topUbuntu has its faults... security updates isn't one of them01:47
mirajgarthk, can xen write-protect it's bootsector etc?01:47
L3topif it were... there would be more than 1500 users in here with your issue01:47
garthk(If there are any Xen experts who can figure out another cheat to wake this box up without waiting for this Live DVD download, then I can get right on to the boot repair stuff L3top might be able to help me with. It sounds like a whole lot more fun than this step.)01:47
L3topDial it down a notch.01:47
garthkmiraj: fun idea. Not sure.01:48
toafanfighting with KDE/KWin over Alt-Space and gnome-terminal.  Anyone?01:48
L3topblaming the OS which does not befuddle newbs is not likely the best way to attract those bees garthk.01:48
wilee-nileeSmaxie, is it BCM411 or BCM4311  thos are diffrent cards I believe.01:48
tortibL3top: nah xfce4 didn't fix it, it's shitty drivers01:48
Smaxieit uses sta01:48
Smaxieim following guide on wiki01:49
Gary_inNYCI see that a generic pae kernel  is being pushed in Update Manager.  Should I skip this for an older computer that isn't pae ?01:49
Smaxiejust to make sure i didnt miss something01:49
bennypr0fanenever smart to bash the os in its own irc channel :-D01:49
bennypr0faneso, not looking good for my empty desktop tonight I guess...01:50
toafanbennypr0fane: sorry, must've missed that -- what's up again?01:51
baguzzzajihello, can i have ubuntu without windows manager?01:51
Smaxiewilee-nilee: hmm, i followed the directions, modprobed the cvarious mopdulkes, nothing01:53
Smaxiegonna try a reboot01:53
wilee-nileebaguzzzaji, Look at login managers here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems#Adding_a_Window_Manager01:53
mirajgarthk; perhaps if you split your installation into two drives, one for xen and the other for ubuntu, then hardware write-protected the xen drive01:54
Smaxieman this sucks, i really hope i can get this thing working01:54
toafanbaguzzzaji: what, like just TTYs and no graphics?  In theory, yes.01:54
llaskinis there any way to kill all processes that have <defunct> in their process listing at once?01:55
baguzzzajitoafan, yes, i mean that way.01:55
wilee-nileeSmaxie, It seemed you said you had wifi until you added firmware, is this true and did you have it on the live cd?01:55
Smaxiei didnt use live cd, and no i never had wifi, but before I added that thing in jockey, networkmanager would aatleast notice there was a wifi adapter bgut it would be greyed out and said "need firmware" or whatever01:56
toafanbaguzzzaji: there _used_ to be an ubuntu-minimal install CD, that'd do that.  I heard a rumor that it was going away, but I don't know.  Alternatly, you could hack bootup scripts and/or uninstall all graphical software includeing X itself.01:57
Smaxie I just got a Dell latitude business class laptop, with 4GB of ram core2duo 2.13 and other goodies for only 80 bucks, i was hoping top replace my brown thinkpad and run linux01:58
Smaxie but if ubuntu is struggling, it doesnt dobe well for opther distros01:58
garthkPartial solution to getting node alive: use 'xe-edit-bootloader -n hostname -p 1' on Xen console to remove 'submenu' definition.01:58
Smaxie s/broken/brown'01:58
OerHeksSmaxie, if firmware is missing >  sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer ( and reboot)01:59
garthkI'm now in a maintenance mode shell with /dev/xvda2 mounted… where'd xvda1 go? Hmm.02:00
Smaxiei tried that, but this card downt use that firmware anyway02:00
toafanSmaxie: have you rebooted since installing firmware/drivers?02:00
defaultroI rebooted my access point while ubuntu was off, the network has been up for 5 mins now without any issues02:00
Smaxiewiki says install bcmwl-kernel-source02:00
defaultroi'm doing a continiuous ping02:00
Smaxieive rebooted a bunch of timesd, along with mod probing02:00
Smaxiethe wiki says this all...02:00
Smaxie.me doesnt come to irc beforew reading wikis and such02:01
L3top#ubuntu wears on the soul.02:01
OerHekswiki says that cord is both STA and B43.. it is B4302:01
Smaxieive tried both :(02:01
Smaxieim gonna keep playing with it02:02
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snwhSmaxie, what is the output of lspci?02:05
garthkOk, a few reboots later, it boots fine. So, full rescue solution: xe-edit-bootloader -n02:05
garthkWhups. http://www.virtualzone.de/2012/06/ubuntu-vm-not-starting-on-xenserver.html02:05
defaultroi'm going to turn on my Ubuntu machine now. I hope it doesn't affect my wireless network. Maybe it was just a coincidence earlier02:05
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Smaxiesnwh: i said the name of card above02:07
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esteban320hello, Iam using ubunutu 12.04 and have black screen02:08
esteban320It seems  that I have graphical system X loggeed as root user, but not as my user. Can someone to end up my problem? I have ubuntu 12.0402:08
toafanesteban320: are you logged on? and do you have a text prompt?02:08
esteban320this is my /var/log/xorg.0log http://pastebin.com/VQyJQ6MH02:09
bennypr0faneHej Smaxie did you reply a while ago when I asked what yr issue was?02:09
esteban320toafan, the login window if i boot from grub as normal user, doesnt appear02:10
bennypr0fanebcs I was gone there 4 a while02:10
bennypr0fanebad irc client...02:10
esteban320or appear the logo of ubuntu for ever02:10
Smaxie bennypr0fane never saw you ask me an question.02:10
toafanah, that-- I can't help with.  sorry02:10
bennypr0faneso, what's yr issue?02:10
SmaxieBasically my wifi aint working.  Im not new to linux by any means, but just picked up a new laptop and its giving mew fits02:11
esteban320it is like this problem, but I cant figure out how to sove in my case https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=10918002:11
bennypr0fanehave you tried rfkill yet Smaxie?02:11
snwhSmaxie, Hmm I have a Broadcom card as well (b4313) and the "bcmwl-source-package" with the wl module is what works for me.02:11
toafanbennypr0fane: what's up with your empty desktop again?02:11
bennypr0fanetoafan I log into a Unity session, the desktop remains empty, I only see the wallpaper02:12
Smaxieinstaller apparently killed my eth0 also hmm, b43=02:12
toafanbennypr0fane: Unity or Unity2D?02:12
wilee-nileeesteban320, A its like this is not going to get you help I suspect, just state it. ;)02:12
Smaxiehmm, eth0 is there but networkmanager doesntr see it ew02:13
bennypr0faneI can't log into Unity2D02:13
bennypr0faneSmaxie do rfkill list02:13
Smaxiebennypr0fane: shows dekll wifi and delkl bluetooth02:14
Smaxiesoft and hard blocked : no02:14
Zachster1996i am having trouble with ubuntu02:14
esteban320wilee-nilee how can I proceed :=s02:14
toafanbennypr0fane: can you pop over to a TTY and look for processes with `compiz` or `unity`?  Eg in top, htop?02:14
bennypr0faneSmaxie only those 2, wifi and bt? all not blocked?02:15
Smaxiemust be something stupid, but its reeally driving me nuts02:15
Smaxiebennypr0fane: yup02:15
toafanZachster1996: of course, or you wouldn't be here.  What's up?02:15
Smaxieim typing from another pc, so i cant copy and paSTE, BUT THATS IT02:15
Zachster1996i have ubuntu server 12.04.1 and the stats at the bottom keep appearing over and over when i connect via ssh02:15
bennypr0faneSmaxie so you tried both drivers, proprietary one and free?02:15
bennypr0fanetoafan I forgot what tty is02:16
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esteban320wilee-nilee can someone help me? I haven't got graphical system in ubuntu 12 04 logged as user, but yes booting as root user02:16
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Zachster1996i have ubuntu server 12.04.1 and the stats at the bottom keep appearing over and over when i connect via ssh02:16
toafanbennypr0fane: TTY is a hardware terminal.  In this case, you want to hit Ctrl-Alt-f102:16
Smaxiesorry bout that02:17
toafanbennypr0fane: it'll drop you at a text prompt02:17
Smaxiewhat the STA one from jockey for? i was under the impression you wouldnt need anything else besides that02:17
toafanZachster1996: I've never used Ubuntu server.  What kind of stats?02:17
bennypr0faneSmaxie that card can be really weird02:18
Zachster1996the system stats that appear at the bottom02:18
Smaxiebut now im seeing sta, b43/firmware-b64-installer and bcmwl-firmware or whatever02:18
toafanZachster1996: and importantly, do they only show up along the bottom line, or do they scroll up the terminal?02:18
Smaxiebennypr0fane: apparently, Ive been using linjux for 11 years and never seen something so stupid when it ciomes to wifi02:18
bennypr0faneyou can choose between the 2. deactivate whichever one you're using now and try the other02:18
Smaxie2? i listed 3?]02:19
bennypr0fanewell one is just the installer02:19
toafanZachster1996: I've got Byobu terminal manager, and it has a stats line along the bottom, but if that's what's going on they should _stay_ at the bottom02:19
Zachster1996toafan they are supposed to stay at bottom but they scroll02:20
Zachster1996toafan ^02:20
Smaxiewonder if its 64bit giving me problems or somethingmas02:20
Zachster1996i tried putty, kitty, disabling byobu on login02:21
bennypr0fanetoafan right now I'm in an Enlightenment session02:21
bennypr0faneI have htop running02:21
bennypr0fanewhat now?02:21
Zachster1996it dont do it at the actual server just in ssh02:21
Zachster1996toafan ^02:21
treaverhoerigHow do I install oracle java 6-7 in ppa02:21
bennypr0faneSmaxie try uninstalling the STA driver02:21
bennypr0fanethen reboot02:22
Smaxie i havbe02:22
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.02:22
toafanZachster1996: yeah, that's not supposed to happen.  Is that a actual windows box, and if so have you tried from anothe linux machine?02:22
Smaxienow im uninstyalling b43 studff and just going with bcmwl02:22
bennypr0faneafter that run rfkill again02:22
OerHekstreaverhoerig, there is no ppa, see ubottu's url02:22
bennypr0fanerfkill list02:22
Zachster1996that server is my only linux machine02:23
Zachster1996toafan ^02:23
Smaxieif this doesnt work im gonna install my proven intel nioc from my t60 thinkpad02:23
Zachster1996i have ubuntu desktop on my computer but i havent installed wireless yet02:23
Zachster1996toafan ^02:23
bennypr0fanethis broadcom wifi card is just a curse02:23
Smaxiebennypr0fane: i never had a problem with b43 type ones02:24
Smaxiethey always just worked for me02:24
bennypr0faneI've been having this issue with each installation of Linux02:24
toafanZachster1996: could you plug in an ethernet cable long enough to test?02:24
Zachster1996no my internet is on the opposite end of the house and i dont have long enough cable02:25
Zachster1996toafan ^02:25
KRomeleoNi just benchmarked a flash drive in ubuntu under disks and got 216.3 MB/s02:25
KRomeleoNcan that be right?02:25
KRomeleoNseems high02:25
KRomeleoNits rated at 190MB/sec02:26
Zachster1996toafan it dont happen on 11.10 i just upgraded to 12.04.102:26
devslashdoes linux support writing to HFS+ ?02:26
Smaxie rfkill shows thwe same02:26
Zachster1996toafan maybe i should downgrade02:26
toafanZachster1996: officaly, there's no way to downgrade (I found out tonight)02:27
Zachster1996i meant wipe drive02:27
Zachster1996toafan ^02:27
KRomeleoNwhy not try 12.10 before u go back to 11.10 as a fresh install?02:27
snwhdevslash, yes but only if Journaling is disabled under MAC OS02:27
Zachster1996there is no 12.10 Krabbe02:27
KRomeleoNim running it, im sure it exists :)02:28
devslashwill i lose any data if i do that ?02:28
toafanZachster1996: yeah, if you're going to fresh-install you may as well try the current version first02:28
Zachster1996toafan is 12.10 dev buid02:28
toafanKRomeleoN: not yet it doesn't, you're on beta02:28
KRomeleoNyeah its a beta02:28
toafanZachster1996: so 12.402:28
KRomeleoNbut b4 he does a fresh install....02:28
Zachster1996i dont like beta02:28
KRomeleoNtry 12.1002:28
OerHeksKRomeleoN, there are 2 speeds, cach & bufferd speeds, use > sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda02:28
bennypr0faneSmaxie here's a really neat thing for diagnosing your wlan: http://wiki.bodhilinux.com/doku.php?id=wireless_script02:29
snwhdevslash, you shouldnt. but they say it is "not recommended" to disable02:29
bennypr0faneit prints out everything you wanna know02:29
Zachster1996toafan gonna go try that02:29
bennypr0fanemaking sense of the output will be another thing tho...02:30
bennypr0fanetoafan I can't see any Unity process in htop02:30
snwhdevslash, it just prevents corruption, data loss, etc.  if you want the write to HFS+ from ubuntu you have to disable. here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus02:31
Zachster1996toafan do-release-upgrade says no new version02:31
Zachster1996im using -d02:31
toafanbennypr0fane: did you search for them?02:31
bennypr0fanethere's really just a dozen running though02:31
toafanbennypr0fane: probably hit f3, it should say along the bottom02:32
toafanbennypr0fane: might want to make sure you're seeing processes from all users02:32
bennypr0fanei've got processes from 4 users shown so that's probably all02:32
bennypr0faneis it?02:33
bennypr0fanebut as i'm now in an e17 session, it wouldn't make much sense anyway if there was anything Unity running, right?02:34
toafanbennypr0fane: yeah yeah yeah, the idea here is to try to log in to unity and see if it worked by checking for unity processes02:35
* zykotick9 wonders if "unity" is a process? compiz maybe?02:36
devslashanyone here running ubuntu server02:36
snwhdevslash, for what purpose?02:36
toafanzykotick9: well, if his unity is running correctly, there should be a couple processes with unity in their name02:37
bennypr0fanebut the problem is if I log into Unity I can't be in here not run anything02:37
zykotick9toafan: you'd know better then i would ;)02:37
toafanzykotick9: for example unity-panel iirc02:37
toafanbennypr0fane: what chat client are you using?02:37
bennypr0faneexcept if I can run 2 sessions simultaneously and switch between them?02:37
devslashI want to get a computer to run ubuntu server, i don't need anything REALLY fancy. just decent amount of RAM (~4GB) and a lot of storage. any recommendations02:38
toafanbennypr0fane: what about multiuser and switch-user?02:38
andrewh192question.... I am looking for what tv tuner card I could use on my computer, and what program i would use to watch tv with....???02:38
bennypr0faneno idea, never tried taht02:38
andrewh192i have looked online at several forums but always never seem to get a real answer from anything said there02:38
toafanbennypr0fane: you probably can't log in two sessions for the same user, so you may have to create a test user02:38
bennypr0fanedevslash you might wanna try the #hardware channel02:39
snwhdevslash, well ubuntu server doesnt have a gui by default02:39
devslashi know02:39
bennypr0fanetoafan shouldn't be a problem02:39
devslashI'm currently running it on an old laptop02:39
devslashin a CLI02:39
bennypr0fanethe problem is how do i get any info about the Unity session if I can't start any applications02:40
toafanbennypr0fane: I've got irssi which runs in a terminal, so it'd run in a TTY.  I've learned you should put it in screen or byobu or the like02:40
zykotick9andrewh192: i use an oldish hauppauge 1600 to watch/PVR OTA-HD with MythTV, but you might want to check out (?)TVTime i think, for simple watching...02:40
toafanbennypr0fane: one thing I usually do is go to TTY1 (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and run htop there02:41
bennypr0faneI can chat from my other computer02:41
snwhdevslash, it should be fine for a server. I repurposed an old laptop and 6 harddrive to make a file server.02:41
jaslapok seriously.. gnome 3, why do I have more options for online accounts on my desktop than on my laptop? I've installed all the same stuff..02:41
zykotick9!info tvtime | andrewh19202:41
ubottuandrewh192: tvtime (source: tvtime): television display application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-7ubuntu9 (precise), package size 702 kB, installed size 1863 kB02:41
devslashsnwh: I'm having a problem now. i powered it off and it won't turn on…. :p02:41
esteban320Hello.  I can start X as root but not as normal User02:41
bennypr0fanetoafan so if I go ctrl alt f1 in the unity session, i should be able to run cli applications, right?02:42
esteban320need help please02:42
snwhdevslash, that sounds like a hardware issue :P02:42
defaultrostill can't figure out the issue02:42
toafanbennypr0fane: yup.  Catch is, that'll be _all_ you can run02:42
devslashit was JUST working. i powered it off to check something and when i went to power it on it wouldn't turn on02:43
defaultronetwork just stops working. What I'll do is disconnect wireless from top right, then click my SSID again.02:43
codewizhi, i have a process called "whoopsie" owned by the user "whoopsie" that respawns when killed02:43
defaultrois there a problem with RT2800pci driver?02:43
codewizthat part of the system?02:43
bennypr0fanetoafan AND I can't claim I know my cli commands all that well02:43
toafanbennypr0fane: although, you can probably start a program that uses X from there, same as if you started eg firefox from a terminal window02:43
bennypr0fanemaybe you'd be ready to post me the lines?02:43
esteban320my xorg.0.failsafeX doesnt work too . One of the WW was Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)02:44
toafanbennypr0fane: if you know how to use `man` and run everything inside byobu, you'll be fine overall02:44
defaultrowow, someone reporter that the rt2800pci is causing havoc to their school network02:44
toafanbennypr0fane: but sure02:44
zykotick9codewiz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/135540/what-is-the-whoopsie-process-and-how-can-i-remove-it02:44
bennypr0fanewhat's byobu?02:44
toafanbennypr0fane: it's like a windowmanager for the CLI.  I'm pretty sure it's the most newbie-friendly, but I haven't used it much myself02:45
bennypr0faneok, will see02:45
bennypr0fanestarting unity session now02:46
defaultrohey folks, will RT2860 driver work for me? Currently, it shows RT2800pci02:46
defaultroand someone from a forum is saying that RT2800pci driver is causing issues to their school network. One suggestion was to install a new driver02:46
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toafanbennypr0fane: I'm gonna go poof for the night in about 10-12 minutes, FYI02:47
defaultrois there an ubuntu kernel channel?02:47
ampdtoafan: byobu looks pretty intense02:48
andrewh192is that the name of the program zykotick9?02:48
toafanampd: how so?02:48
bennypr0fanetoafan i get a "system program problem detected"02:48
ampdtoafan: well, it looks like windows 3.1. dont think i'd remember how to use it02:49
toafanbennypr0fane: what caused it?  just trying to log in?02:49
skraitohi ubuntu user and young programmer02:49
skraitowe release http://0x71.org unpublish code02:49
skraitofor you to learn and secure your box02:49
skraitogo and download it02:50
skraitoand thank God for it02:50
skraitois free02:50
skraitogo see published code on top of it on the left02:50
ampdtoafan: actually, just looked at a few more screenshots. looks like any tiling wm, but in ascii. might need to look into this02:50
defaultroanyone knows?02:50
toafanampd: well, it's kinda designed the same way?...  it's all about the CLI.  But of course it's a modern OS02:50
nonrootlist #vhost02:50
toafanampd: yeah, it's like a tiling wm for the command line02:50
bennypr0fanetoafan yes, right after login02:51
cactusfrogI have been having some trouble booting off of an Ubuntu DVD I burned. When I try to load it on my mac it just creates a flashing white line that doesn't do anything. I have tried three different dvds and slow speeds. And I have been able to boot off of a flashdrive but that flashdrive is where I want to install ubuntu so I can save files and stuff.02:51
twitchieandrewh192: yes that is a program used to watch tv off a turner card02:51
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ampdtoafan: yea. i'm a fan of the general style.02:51
esteban320my failsafeX doesnt work. One of the WW was Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)02:51
bennypr0fanealso an error msg about telepathy came up02:51
esteban320but I can init X system as root without problems02:51
bennypr0faneI'm in tty now, running htop02:51
toafanbennypr0fane: so is that progress?  Have you been able to check for unity processes?02:52
NautilusI have ubuntu 12.04 with lubuntu-desktop (love it!), but don't know how to view the contents of a DVD.   Anyone around to help?  In 10.04 the disc would auto-magically appear on the desktop.02:52
toafanNautilus: that's a mount case.  do you have a mounted drives indicator of some sort?  can you find the disk in your file manager?02:52
insomniac_lemonCan anyone help me get Autodesk Maya 2013 (student version) on Ubuntu? The site says it's possible, but it doesn't offer a download for Linux. There are multiple "tutorials" on the internet, but they start assuming you already have the files. Is it possible to download from their site?02:52
bennypr0fanetoafan, yes, checked, and no, search for unity yields no results02:53
skraitois on top left guys02:53
ampdNautilus: probably need to mount it yourself02:53
andrewh192cool, thanx twitchie02:54
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bennypr0faneany other keyword to search for except unity?02:54
toafanbennypr0fane: so your unity login isn't starting the unity processes.  you might be hosed and need to rebuild the login files02:54
toafanbennypr0fane: got any compiz?02:54
defaultroso no one here uses rt driver?02:55
bennypr0fanetoafan I dunno. how can I tell?02:55
bennypr0fanei can't imagine though Unity's acutally not running, bcs I can see the wallpaper, and things happening on the desktop (error msgs in their usual Ubuntu windows)02:56
bennypr0fanethere's a context menu when I right-click, and a reaction to keyboard input02:57
bennypr0faneit's like the desktop is perfectly fine, except there's nothing on it02:57
cactusfrogsorry for rewriting this, but I need some help and I haven't been able to find anyone else who has my problem. I burned a DVD with ubuntu 32-desktop and tried to boot off of it with my mac. Although it does reconize the disk and try to boot off of it, all that it does is flash a white line. Nothing more. Whats wrong? The reason I am doing this in the first place is to make an ubuntu flash drive that I can just plug into a comput02:57
bennypr0faneerror report says colord crashed02:57
VeropHI ALL!02:58
bennypr0fanetoafan just understood yr last question, yes, there is compiz02:59
Devin__Hey whats up02:59
VeropKTO POLAK?02:59
snwhcactusfrog you could: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx02:59
Nautilustoafan: sorry I had to step away.  Dont see it in the file manager, and believe I need to mount it, but I suspect the cdrom is a special case... I see it in /dev but also see a /cdrom02:59
twitchiecactusfrog: did you download the .iso file? If so how did you burn this image02:59
Veropi nedd help plz02:59
twitchie!ask | verop02:59
ubottuverop: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:59
Veropany can help plz?02:59
Devin__Looks busy in here, anyone around think they can give me a couple of pointers in the realm of kernel updates03:00
toafanbennypr0fane: can you run compiz-config, and check for the unity plugin?03:00
bennypr0fanewill try03:00
cactusfrogsnwh: yeah I tried that but that doesn't allow me to keep my settings after every time I boot. Instead I can either choose to install it or just run the demo, or to install it on my harddrive03:00
VeropI need website with many developers Linux programms please, and they must work for free?03:00
cactusfrogsnwh: (sorry) yeah I tried that but that doesn't allow me to keep my settings after every time I boot. Instead I can either choose to install it or just run the demo, or to install it on my harddrive03:00
VeropI need website with many developers Linux programms please, and they must work for free?03:01
VeropI need website with many developers Linux programms please, and they must work for free?03:01
VeropI need website with many developers Linux programms please, and they must work for free?03:01
FloodBot1Verop: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:01
bennypr0fanetoafan compiz-config command not found03:01
snwhcactusfrog you could in your Mac terminal:  dd if=image.iso of=/dev/disk bs=819203:03
bennypr0faneI opened another tty for this though, alt ctrl F4 - would that be supposed to work?03:03
insomniac_lemonAutodesk Maya 2013 on Ubuntu? Anyone?03:03
snwhcactusfrog where image.iso is replaced with your iso name and /dev/disk your disk03:03
Devin__I am using Ubuntu 12.4 on a VM and am doing HW and I need to update the kernel03:04
YoungOwlHello everyone03:04
Devin__I think I am on the right path but I just want to make sure03:04
cactusfrogsnwh: so that would work?03:05
twitchie!compizconfig-settings-manager | bennypr0fane03:05
snwhcactusfrog: it ought to03:05
Nautilusampd: sorry I had to step away.  Dont see it in the file manager, and believe I need to mount it, but I suspect the cdrom is a special case... I see it in /dev but also see a /cdrom03:05
snwhcactusfrog, worth trying at least.03:06
cactusfrogsnwh: so just to be clear that would allow me to boot off the usb make changes like changing my destkop background or installing a program. Shut down my computer and then reboot off that usb again and all the programs would be installed.03:06
bennypr0fanetwitchie thanks - this would be the command?03:06
defaultrofolks, just would like to confirm please. Can i use module rt2860 in place of rt2800?03:06
defaultrothe rt2800pci driver in LTS is bad03:06
snwhcactusfrog, yup. its just a different way of writing an iso to a usb drive03:07
Devin__hey can one of you guys point me in the right direction03:07
Devin__for my kernel update03:07
bennypr0fane'compiz' returns:  'Fatal: couldn't open display'03:08
cactusfrogsnwh: thanks03:08
bennypr0faneDevin__ you'll need to be more specific03:08
bennypr0faneask for the exact thing you wanna do03:08
twitchiebennypr0fane, do you have a current X11 session open?03:09
bennypr0faneyes, the one with the empty desktop03:09
Devin__can I paste, or will I get in trouble03:09
bennypr0faneDevin__ use pastebin.com03:09
twitchiebennypr0fane, what is your current window manager?03:09
bennypr0faneyou don't need an account for that03:09
bennypr0fanetwitchie not sure03:10
twitchiebennypr0fane, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop03:10
bennypr0fanewhat's the deafult window manager of Unity?03:10
Nautilusdo I mount /dev/cdrom to the already existing /cdrom folder?03:11
lotuspsychje!mount | Nautilus03:11
ubottuNautilus: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount03:11
Devin__wow that's nifty !03:12
snwhcactusfrog, no problem03:12
Devin__lol I have been out of this internet seen for along time!03:12
bennypr0fanetwitchie "ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version"03:12
d3v1an7Hey all. I've got a bunch of undelivered message reports in /var/mail/www-data. How would I go about resending the *original* mail out again - not just the fail message?03:12
ebby!Tedric_fs Stephen King - Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption (txt).zip03:12
ubottuebby: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:12
twitchiebennypr0fane, so you have do menu/taskbar etc?03:12
blackshirtNautilus: I think that was done automatically03:13
bennypr0fanetwitchie no, nothing, the desktop is completely blank!03:14
Devin__did you get my paste?03:14
defaultrowhich line should I start to copy, http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg85339.html03:14
Nautiluslotuspsychje: that says I can mount it explicity, so just "sudo mount /dev/cdrom"?03:15
defaultroanyone know how to patch03:15
bennypr0faneDevin__ so what, you just need to upgrade your kernel to just any newer version?03:15
bennypr0fanewhat is it for?03:15
twitchiebennypr0fane, did a login GUI come up when you booted the computer?03:15
Devin__Operating Systems course03:15
bennypr0fanetwitchie yes03:16
Devin__I don't want to update to the newest thought because part two he wants me to do it again but in a different way I guess03:16
defaultrowhat the hello is Synaptic package manager?03:16
bennypr0faneDevin__ so did you do the things suggested there?03:16
defaultroI need this, linux-backports-modules-cw-3.3-precise-generic03:17
defaultrois it yum search linux-backports-modules-cw-3.3-precise-generic03:17
twitchiebennypr0fane, do you know how to switch the window manager on the login screen?03:17
bennypr0fanetwitchie yes03:17
twitchiedo any of the other choices provide you with a desktop?03:17
bennypr0faneyes, I got Enlightenment03:18
defaultroyum iss not installed03:18
defaultroEnglightenment is very old :D03:18
bennypr0fanedefaultro, you're in Ubuntu, yes?03:18
defaultroyes, ubuntu03:18
blackshirtdefaultro: yum was for centos based03:18
defaultrogot it, that's why it failed03:18
defaultroi though it was universal03:18
bennypr0faneand you're trying to install stuff with yum?03:18
lotuspsychje!info e17 | defaultro03:18
ubottudefaultro: e17 (source: e17): The Enlightenment DR17 Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16.999.55225-1build1 (precise), package size 2781 kB, installed size 7860 kB03:18
ampddefaultro: use apt-get03:19
defaultroapt-get linux-backports-modules-cw-3.3-precise-generic03:19
defaultroi'll try that03:19
bennypr0faneit's apt-gert03:19
defaultroapt-get search linux-backports-modules-cw-3.3-precise-generic03:19
defaultrowill that work?03:19
bennypr0faneapt-get install03:19
bennypr0faneno. sorry03:19
defaultrowhat about searching first03:19
bennypr0faneapt-get search03:20
garthkRecreated: upgrading from ubuntu-12-x64 3.2.0-30-virtual gives me 'submenu' in grub.cfg; 'apt-get clean' and 'apt-get autoclean'  leave the extra kernel images in /boot and the 'submenu' in grub.cfg; there's no way to not do submenus; and Xen's boot loader can't cope with the submenus.03:20
Devin__Sorry was fixing my paste to include part II03:20
Devin__So yeah I tried to follow the link and look around alittle bit03:20
Devin__I think I know what I have to do03:20
bennypr0faneDevin__ smart move03:20
SudoShredI accidentally created 2 Ubuntu Software Center accounts and each have separate programs that are purchased.  Is there a way to merge the accounts or log out of the currently logged in account to install the other software?03:21
twitchiebennypr0fane, sounds like your unity/gnome3 is broken. I would fire try a dpkg-reconfigure unity .. if that doesn't work then apt-get purge then apt-get install03:21
garthkRe grub submenus: any chance the help is out of date, and there's a way to suppress submenu generation? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus03:21
defaultrodamn, unable to locate package03:21
twitchiebennypr0fane, but to answer your question csmm is the command to change compz settings03:21
defaultrothere is no linux-backports03:21
bennypr0fanedefaultro the search working? return anything?03:21
defaultroinvalid paramter03:21
Guest7627hi, how do i join singapore galaxynet server?03:21
defaultroi'm trying to follow the steps here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197388103:22
defaultrothis is what he wrote, You might try the linux-backports-modules-cw-3.3-precise-generic package available in Synaptic package manager. rt2800pci is different (new? better??) there; here is the standard version:03:22
Devin__Did you look at my paste again cause I am going to ask you a question03:22
tizzis there just an ubuntu chat channel?03:22
defaultrowhat the hell is Synaptic Package manager?03:23
bennypr0faneDevin__ go ahead ask03:23
Devin__What is the difference in the two updates from link 1 http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  to link 2 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/03:23
bennypr0fanedefaultro it's what you need03:23
defaultrobut what is it?03:23
Guest7627how do i join sibgapore galaxynet server?03:23
bennypr0faneit's for installing stuff03:23
defaultrowhen i ran apt-get install linux-backports, it failed03:23
bennypr0fanemanages yr software03:23
defaultrobut I am just installing it03:23
defaultroapt-get is failing03:24
Nautilusyay!   cd is mounted (sudo mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom) ...      how can I find the disc label?03:24
bennypr0faneinstalling what?03:24
defaultroi want to try the solution that was suggested in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197388103:24
defaultrobecause the rt2800pci module that is loaded on my ubuntu is killing my network03:25
bennypr0fanedefaultro if you have synaptic installed, start it03:25
defaultroi'm sorry, I'm just 2 hours old in ubuntu03:25
defaultronot sure where it is03:25
bennypr0fanesystem tools03:25
Devin__Part I—Upgrade Ubuntu Kernel with Ubuntu’s precompiled kernel components03:25
Devin__Part II—Upgrade Ubuntu Kernel with the use of Linux Kernel Source Code components03:25
wilee-nileetizz, #ubuntu-oftopic03:25
Devin__Whats the difference03:25
FloodBot1Devin__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:25
tizzthanks wilee-nilee03:25
SudoShredI accidentally created 2 Ubuntu Software Center accounts and each have separate programs that are purchased.  Is there a way to merge the accounts or log out of the currently logged in account to install the other software?03:26
wilee-nilee#ubuntu-offtopic tizz,03:26
Devin__any idea ?03:26
blackshirtDevin__: what you mean ?03:26
defaultrobennypr0fane, lol, i couldn't even find System tools03:27
blackshirtDevin__: what are you trying to do ?03:27
defaultroi feel like downloading Fedora :(03:27
Devin__Well part 1 and part 2 ask me to upgrade ubuntu kernels03:27
twitchiebennypr0fane, I noticed I said cssm, the correct command is ccsm03:27
Devin__part 1 says to use ubuntu's precompiled kernel components03:27
ampddefaultro: its in the upper right03:27
bennypr0fanetwitchie i did dpkg-reconfigure unity. need to reboot to see an effect, or should something happen right away?03:28
Devin__and part 2 asks to use Linux Kernel source code components03:28
Devin__whats the difference03:28
defaultroi'll look again03:28
guest-3d4IEwI have a 'sort-of problem' problem.  Installed Ubuntu Studio on /sda3 partition, bootloader failed - I reinstalled it to get Studio to work.  Now I have 2 partitions of the same thing.   I tried to delete the partition in a windows partition editor and after reset it just came back.03:28
defaultromy ubuntu experience has been somewhat painful03:28
guest-3d4IEwis there a simple solution?03:28
d3v1an7Hey guys, I'm not having a lot of success with this mail issue - can anyone direct me to either a more general linux adminy type channel?03:28
ampddefaultro: sounds like my experiences trying to update fedora ;)03:28
bennypr0fanehey defaultro maybe it's in preferences03:28
twitchiebennypr0fane, should work if you can log out of your current X session03:29
bennypr0faneah ok03:29
defaultroampd, :) Fedora was easy for me03:29
blackshirtDevin__: I don't follow your problem from the begins, I'm just sitting here for a second03:29
defaultrothere is no SYstem Tools but there is System Settings03:29
defaultromaybe, I don't have Synaptics03:29
defaultroapt-get search doesn't work either :(03:30
bennypr0fanejust type synaptic in terminal03:30
defaultroi'll try that03:30
ampddefaultro: sudo apt-get install synaptic03:30
blackshirtDevin__: that's very different thing03:30
Devin__I am working on an Operating Systems class, and I have installed Ubuntu 12.4 onto a VM. I am not very good with linux at all and I need to update the kernels03:30
defaultroit's not installed03:30
defaultrook, installin git03:30
Devin__how so03:30
bennypr0fanesudo apt-get install synaptic03:30
SudoShredIs there a way to install software for all users at once from the Ubuntu Software Center?03:30
WeThePeopled3v1an7, whats the issue?03:31
d3v1an7WeThePeople: I've got a bunch of undelivered message reports in /var/mail/www-data. How would I go about resending the *original* mail out again - not just the fail message?03:31
Devin__blackshirt_: how so?03:31
wilee-nileeDevin__, Your kernel updates will be in software updates03:31
defaultroinstalled but when I ran it, startiing without administrative privileges. :(03:31
twitchie!sudo | defaultro03:32
ubottudefaultro: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo03:32
Devin__is software updates the GUI version because I think he wants me to do it in CLI03:32
defaultroforgot to put sudo03:32
wilee-nileeDevin__, Are you trying to get a specific kernel?03:32
defaultroI'm very used to running root03:32
Nautilusi have a DVD mounted and can see the files but not the disc label, anyone know how to find that?03:32
WeThePeopled3v1an7, is there a specific program you use?03:32
defaultrowhy was root disabled?03:33
Devin__No not really, I just want to fufill the requirements of my assignment03:33
NordomI downloaded a .tgz, what is the command to install it? sudo apt-get install filename.tgz?03:33
Devin__The only thing I would need to tell you up front is I am on Kernel 3.2.0 and I need to do two updates and I don't want to be on the newest one by the end of this03:33
Devin__just incase say the next assignment is update your kernel again03:33
wilee-nileeDevin__, We would not know what that is but in ubuntu just run in a terminal sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade  this wil update the OS.03:34
Devin__If I go to the newest kernel then I would be in trouble03:34
d3v1an7WeThePeople: All emails originated from WordPress, which uses PHPMailer 5.2.103:34
bennypr0faneDevin__ in that case don't do apt-get update03:34
ampdDevin__: kernel.ubuntu.com03:34
twitchiedefaultro, for security reasons. if you wish to run as root use the command sudo -i03:34
Devin__yeah, thats what I thought, because If i do that wouldn't it bring me to the most recent03:35
chachindamn 1518 users03:35
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WeThePeopled3v1an7, idk how to use PHPMailer, but maybe a PHP irc channel might?03:35
wilee-nilee!who | Devin__03:35
ubottuDevin__: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)03:35
Devin__yeah thats the link I have in my assignment kernel.ubunto.com03:35
ampdDevin__: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/03:36
ampdDevin__: you can install from a .deb03:36
Devin__ampd ampd03:36
mal10cI'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and I'm trying to slow my mouse pointer down more than the Mouse and Touchpad window is offering, does anyone know of another way to do this?03:36
olskolircmy monitor keeps slamming off.  sometimes when it does that, i can hear my hard drive spin high.  now display gets scrambled.  ubuntu 11.10 - Nvidia 6 graphics card.  1.8 cpu03:36
d3v1an7WeThePeople: No worries! I am trying to resend with formail if that makes it more relevant.03:37
blackshirtDevin__: first one was using precompiled kernel, I mean, in binary term03:37
blackshirtDevin__: second one, you build by yourself the kernel binary from the source03:37
blackshirtDevin__: usually you upgrade it with precompiled kernel from mainline stock ..03:37
d3v1an7WeThePeople: This command works - http://serverfault.com/questions/90023/how-can-i-send-var-mail-root-again03:37
blackshirtDevin__: the second part was more hard and usually was for more experienced linux user03:37
Devin__is the first one I just download the .deb files and run the command03:37
tjzHello guys03:37
tjzanyone familiar with using EncFS ?03:38
d3v1an7WeThePeople: But it resends the fail message back to www-data, not the actual original email to a external address that failed in the first place.03:38
WeThePeoplemal10c, look in the software center for  that03:38
ampdDevin__: yea, sounds like it03:38
Devin__I think the command I found was "" sudo dpkg -i *.deb""03:38
ampdDevin__: that should do it03:38
Devin__how about part II03:39
Devin__anyone have any idea03:39
defaultrothanks twitchie03:39
mal10cWeThePeople: thanks, I hadn't thought of that. I see there's a lot of software that might help03:40
defaultrook folks, I got the linux-backports precise generic installed. How do I know if my system is now using it?03:40
defaultroi forgot to take note of the filesize of rt2800pci driver03:40
defaultrolsmod shows the same driver name03:40
defaultroso I can't tell if I am using linux-backpors03:40
WeThePeoplemal10c, i use atomic mailer, if that intrests you :)03:40
mhumgoodcan any one on xubuntu tell me how to have dual screens that are not clone onlyy03:41
ampdDevin__: just do the same thing with a .tar.gz03:41
blackshirtDevin__: part II was told you to upgrade with compile your kernel image by yourself03:41
garthkHeh. Can't find version_find_latest defined in /etc/grub.d/*, /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig, /usr/sbin/update-grub, or /boot/grub/*…03:41
defaultroyes, I am using the linux-backports module now :D03:42
ampddefaultro: i *think* there's somewhere in system settings that should display it?03:42
defaultrohopefully my wifi is now stable03:42
WeThePeoplegarthk, have you tried sudo apt-get update-grub?03:42
defaultroampd, i just used modinfo and it did the trick ;)03:42
ampddefaultro: :)03:42
defaultroi'll monitor my network03:42
Devin__You can check that out and it will show you my project just go to Labs>Lab 01 >Manual03:42
twitchiedefaultro, modinfo <modulename>  ..... good to hear hope it stays that way.03:43
garthkWeThePeople: All packages are up-to-date. 'update-grub' isn't an APT command: "E: Invalid operation update-grub".03:43
blackshirtthat's very slow03:43
Devin__how do i get sudo dpkg -i *.deb to work for where I have placed my .deb files03:44
garthkI'm well amused: all the grub stuff is in sh, it's calling version_find_latest in back ticks… nobody changes the path… and yet, I can't find it anywhere sensible. Game well played. :)03:44
blackshirtgarth, yes, that's command from grub2 packages03:44
Devin__if I just cd to it will it know03:44
ampdDevin__: you have to put the path to the deb file03:44
ampdDevin__: unless you're in the same folder03:44
blackshirtDevin__: you should cd to dir contains your debs files, and issued that command03:44
NordomI extracted a .tgz file, and I want to install it, I cd to the extrated file, and type 'make' but I get a message that says ' no targets specified' what gives?03:45
Devin__oh dugh03:45
mhumgoodcan any one help set up dual screen that is not cloned03:45
WeThePeoplegarthk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading03:45
Devin__i should use the wildcard ( * ) still right so it gets all three files?03:45
mhumgoodcan some one please help seup dual screen please03:47
ampdDevin__: your lab manual has a walkthrough03:47
somsipNordom: normall you would ./configure and make install03:47
defaultrohey folks, looks like my firefox doesn't have Flash support. HOw do I get it installed?03:47
Devin__No I made that lol03:47
Devin__Well I am in the process03:47
blackshirtDevin__: you can install one by one with the exact  name :D03:47
Devin__I am about ot paste in the next part03:47
ampdDevin__: ahh, well you're pretty much there then ;)03:47
WeThePeoplemhumgood, what distro?03:48
ampddefaultro: did you install flash?03:48
netsecureubunt is awesome :D03:48
Devin__blackshirt: Do I have to do it individually or can I use the wildcard and it will grab all three>03:48
defaultroapt-get install flash?03:48
WeThePeoplenetsecure, do you have a question03:48
Nordomsomsip: I typed sudo ./configure, and got 'command not found' any ideas?03:48
Devin__how do I do the thing to get your attention with the ding>03:48
Devin__it warned me earlier03:49
|Anthony|is there a current and proper man page for ConsoleKit*03:49
ampddefaultro: just get it from adobe03:49
Nordomsomsip: I think the file is corrupt will try redownloading03:49
somsipNordom: read the INSTALL file?03:49
netsecureactually i have a pretty general question, i am interested in developing and contributing to ubuntu, I have read that ubuntu tries to use python as a universal language for development, however i am a java developer03:50
netsecureso is there anyway i can help out in contributing to ubuntu?03:50
|Anthony|i was in here bout 3 hours ago and defaultro was going on about flash. how is he not sorted out yet?03:50
mhumgoodthere seams to be no way throw any setings I can see it in ati but it will not let me click it03:50
ampd|Anthony|: apparently he had some unity issues03:50
malkaunscan anyone get the fullscreen visual bell to work in compiz on 12.04?03:50
twitchie!ubuntu-restricted-extras | defaultro03:50
ubottudefaultro: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:50
tjzHello, anyone familiar with using EncFS ?03:50
somsipnetsecure: this may help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu03:50
WeThePeoplenetsecure, come out with a bad @ss distro03:50
blackshirtNordom: what the packages you are trying to compile ?03:50
Devin__Well I ran the command now only time will tell if I F'd it up03:51
twitchie!contribute | netsecure03:51
ubottunetsecure: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu03:51
i4nIran is very fucked up..03:51
netsecurei am an application developer and was developing usually web applications in high level language such as java and .NET, lately i realized i would enjoy system programming more, so thought of delving into linux deeper. Initally i had a choice between redhat or ubuntu03:52
netsecurebut i chose ubuntu coz its a debian derivative03:52
defaultroi got it working03:52
defaultroi'm loving Ubuntu03:52
defaultroi was never able to install plugins on my Fedora firefox :)03:52
i4nis everyone running on Ubuntu here?>03:53
|Anthony|how about this. defaultro use chrome browser with pepper. adobe has dropped the linux flash player, but will provide security updates for 5 years. they have forwarded flash player devel over to google.03:53
i4nis backtrack any good?03:53
twitchie!ot | i4n03:53
ubottui4n: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:53
defaultrowhat is pepper |Anthony|03:53
|Anthony|defaultro, use google. find answer. profit03:53
ampd|Anthony|: have you tried uzbl yet?03:54
|Anthony|now, on to a question that is NOT already answered on the interwebs... where is current and proper man pages/documentation for ConsolKit03:54
i4nhas anyone heard of backtrack?03:54
OerHeksi4n backtrack is not supported here.03:55
|Anthony|ampd, no i have not03:55
i4nok, well is it any good?03:55
Devin__Hey guys reload my manual page I think I was successful03:55
twitchiei4n: yes but this is not the channel to discuss it. Please feel free to head over to #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss03:55
i4ncool, ok.. sorry03:55
Devin__Ok so when I reboot now, should I get a option of which I would like to boot?03:55
Devin__because I did a mainline kernel???03:56
Devin__if I understand correctly03:56
ampdDevin__: yea, then run a uname -a in terminal and print screen that03:56
|Anthony|or you could /exec -o uname -a03:56
|Anthony|but what do i know03:56
|Anthony|where is the docs for ConsoleKit03:57
|Anthony|oh funny03:58
Devin__Oh Cool03:58
ampd|Anthony|: I dont think consolkit is maintained anymore03:59
|Anthony|no it is not03:59
|Anthony|it is still in use03:59
|Anthony|and a version for which there is no docs03:59
i4nokc wehat time are you comming03:59
|Anthony|it is included in quantal03:59
|Anthony|so there are obvious plans to continue using it04:00
|Anthony|is this the new trend? using depreciated things (consolekit udev) and undocumented things (lightdm)04:00
|Anthony|excuse my rage... just getting frustrated with *this*04:01
i4nwhat are you frustrated with?04:01
i4nparty where?04:01
|Anthony|trying to get a multiseat setup working... have it all going well except for audio. only one seat can access the audio hw at a time. working theory on that is an acl something something that consolekit needs to be involved in04:02
i4nsorry, well have you looked for a tutorial?>04:02
i4nperhaps a google search?04:03
julius_whats the keyboard shortcut to see all running apps?04:03
|Anthony|been banging my head for the last... idk week or so.04:03
i4njust do a google search04:03
julius_ive read it might be the windows logo key, but that one shows me all programs i can start04:03
somsip!google | i4n04:03
ubottui4n: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.04:03
i4ndo you have all updates installed?04:04
|Anthony|i4n, this is *uncharted* territory. there is a wealth of outdated info on the googles. some of which is in fact helpful, most of which is not.04:04
Devin__Ok so can you help me with part II04:04
i4ndo uou hae oovvopocvpov]viifvv04:05
Devin__I am not sure how I am supposed to rename the kernelversion string to my initials04:05
Devin__ampd: ?04:05
ampdDevin__: I've never done that before, maybe just rename?04:06
Devin__how do I beep people04:06
ampd|Anthony|: I'd see if the arch people can help, apparently it works there.\04:06
Devin__ampd: did that work04:07
ampdDevin__: what?04:07
|Anthony|ampd, the arch wikis are very very good. so are the gentoo wikis. i've read them lol04:07
Devin__how do I like have a conversation with a specific person and make there computer beep04:07
Devin__everytime you send me a message I get a beep04:07
Devin__so i know to look at the screen04:07
mhumgoodneed help to use dual screen  it is cloned I need it extended04:07
|Anthony|Devin__, that is "nick alert"04:08
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.04:08
ampdDevin__: Start typing and tab for autocomplete of username04:08
Devin__bennypr0fane: ?04:08
|Anthony|mhumgood, what video card04:08
mhumgoodati 487004:08
Devin__ampd: ohhh04:08
|Anthony|mhumgood, i am unfamiliar with ati.04:09
defaultrohey folks, it's my wife who will be using this Ubuntu. Will I be able to install iTunes?04:09
Devin__blackshirt: hey do you know how to rename the kernelversion string in uname -a04:09
|Anthony|mhumgood, i am familiar with nvidia, but i would imagine the process to be similar04:09
eddi3x3I get this error amixer: Unable to find simple control 'PCM',0 from volwheel04:10
twitchie!itunes | defaultro04:10
ubottudefaultro: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee04:10
WeThePeopledefaultro, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnUrqcD4W_M04:10
|Anthony|mhumgood, are you comfortable editing xorg.conf04:10
blackshirtDevin__: you should set it when config04:11
Devin__blackshirt: how so04:11
defaultroso looks like she won't be able to connect her iphone to our new ubuntu and run itunes so she can manage her iphone04:11
mhumgoodI'm a noob and well not really but if i have no choise04:11
ubottuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.04:11
ampd|Anthony|: are you launching dbus after consolekit?04:12
|Anthony|that was supposed to be !pm | mhumgood04:12
blackshirtDevin__: have you try to config the kernel source and build by your self04:12
Devin__blackshirt: I don't know what that means04:12
mhumgoodalso I can see what i need to click in the ati panal but it wont let me says I need to open the admin one but it dose not open04:12
|Anthony|ampd, i have not edited any init stuff so whatever ubuntus default is04:12
twitchiemhumgood, you should be using amdcccle to configure your ati card and displays04:12
Devin__I haven't started part II yet04:12
twitchiemhumgood, in that case run sudo amdcccle04:13
ampd|Anthony|: maybe GDM loads them in the wrong order? I honestly have no idea.04:13
Devin__blackshirt: how to i nick alert two people04:13
blackshirtDevin__: I think if you want to deep understand of kernel building process, you should try to compile by your self04:13
Devin__blackshirt: no I don't lol I just want to get this assignment done04:13
|Anthony|ampd, 12.04 uses lightdm (another mostly undocumented inclusion in ubuntu)04:13
julius_how can i add "indicator cpufreq" into the systray next to the clock?   starting it from a terminal works, but what if i want to move it?04:13
Devin__|Anthony|: how do I nick alert multiple people?04:14
ampdblackshirt: i thnk thats the second half of the addignment04:14
ampdDevin__: just type a name, tab, then another ane tab04:14
blackshirtplace the nick want to alert Devin__04:14
|Anthony|Devin__, type each persons nick completely (use TAB completion)04:14
Devin__ampd blackshirt did that work?04:15
OerHeksDevin__, all you need is in the pastebin of your assignment .. why do you want us to do your homework?04:15
twitchiemhumgood, please do not send me dcc requests04:16
Devin__OerHeks: I know I made that manual04:16
blackshirtyes Devin__04:16
blackshirtDevin__: you are a smart people :D04:16
Devin__blackshirt: lol04:16
WeThePeoplemhumgood, http://askubuntu.com/questions/91221/how-to-tell-xubuntu-not-to-clone-but-to-expand-the-laptop-display-to-the-externa04:16
ampdDevin__: my sound is off04:16
Devin__blackshirt: I am much better on windows, but i kind of like ubuntu now04:17
chinaxingwho know the perl's irc ?04:17
Gneachinaxing: probably the people in #perl04:18
twitchiemhumgood, please keep chat to the channel, as suggested open a terminal or press alt+f2 and type sudo amdcccle04:18
mhumgoodhey got it now have to do a reboot thanks huge man04:19
Devin__ampd blackshirt  whats the difference if I am getting my kernel from  kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel or ubuntu.kernel.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline04:19
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ampdDevin__: the ubuntu one is packaged for ubuntu already04:22
Devin__the other is just unpackaged?04:23
|Anthony|Devin__, don't expect to have a happy system if you're using packages that aren't built for the kernel you're using04:23
blackshirtDevin__: kernel from kernel.org was a pristine kernel ...04:23
julius_Devin__, yes davin, thats exactly it04:23
Devin__|Anthony|: lol sorry what are the packages04:23
Devin__blackshirt: what do you mean pristine04:23
karthick87I am not able to login, I am getting the following error ==> "Chroot: can't execute '/sbin/load_policy': No such file or directory mount: mounting none on /selinux failed: No such device" How to fix it ??04:24
Devin__blackshirt: like good or is pristine a code name for something04:24
ampdDevin__: the official version, unmodified04:25
Devin__ampd: which is the official version?04:26
Devin__ampd: oh the kernel.org?04:26
ampdDevin__: yea04:26
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ampdDevin__: and the ubuntu one is jsut the official ubuntu kernel, packaged for ubuntu04:26
Devin__ampd: can I backdate afterwords if I have problems, say back to 3.2.004:26
Devin__|Anthony|: what do you mean by for me package04:27
ampdDevin__: when you boot up you get the option to select what kernel to load, right?04:27
Devin__no I didn't04:27
Devin__it just booted up again04:27
Devin__but with the new kernel04:27
redwarriors25_how will i repair this upon installing printer driver04:28
redwarriors25_Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: lsb (>= 3.2)04:28
ampdDevin__: ubuntu may have the grub menu disabled?04:28
Devin__ampd: maybe, I am also using VmWare04:29
limahi. can anyone help change my gdm skin from the terminal?04:29
|Anthony|Devin__, the ubuntu team makes great effort to ensure that packages included in the version specific repos work together. if you go outside of these repos and include packages from third party sources, there is no guarantee that it will work. now, if you get a kernel from a third party source... (imo) all bets are off04:29
Devin__|Anthony|: thanks, so can I backdate do you know? I have to do this for my assignment but If i decide to go back can I04:30
|Anthony|regardless of how "pristine" the kernel might be. don't be confused by "modified"04:30
defaultrowhat is the binary for Ubuntu Software center?04:30
redwarriors25_Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: lsb (>= 3.2)04:31
redwarriors25_how will i repair this upon installing printer driver04:31
OerHeksredwarriors25_, try sudo apt-get install -f04:31
|Anthony|i'm done answering questions that have been answered here and on the internet. especially if you're supposed to be learning. make the effort and search out the answers to these basic questions. you might learn something along the way. this help chan is for real time help for ubuntu users that are either totally new to linux and ubuntu, or for those who have made the effort to search out the answer on their own, but it is not available04:33
blackshirtDevin__: that's meaning, the kernel code maintained by linus torvald among all kernel developers and released to public regular to schedule release04:33
blackshirtDevin__: the mainline kernel was from ubuntu core developer, and fetch them from pristine kernel (kernel.org) and some add patch (maybe), improvement (specific to ubuntu) and included on ubuntu releases04:33
blackshirtkarthick87: are you have configure your selinux ?04:33
blackshirtkarthick87: join #selinux04:33
malkaunshow do u get the visual bell to work in 12.04?04:33
Devin__blackshirt: ohh ok I get it04:33
Devin__blackshirt: so any idea on how i might go about changing that kernel version string04:33
rgenitoaww man04:33
rgenitook well i GOTTA ask...04:34
rgenitodoes anyone here use Tribler?04:34
Devin__blackshirt: do I need to change it in the source code before i compile it?04:34
rgenitolooks like #tribler has no one in it... but i'm wondering if anyone can access tribler.org04:34
Devin__opps that was meant for ubuntu04:34
OerHeks!info software-center04:34
ubottusoftware-center (source: software-center): Utility for browsing, installing, and removing software. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.5 (precise), package size 609 kB, installed size 4256 kB04:34
blackshirtDevin__: was like I told to you before, you should do it when you config your kernel ...04:34
rgenitoDevin__, it's not as bad as (back in the day) me typing something like, "get womenHorseFuck.avi" or something04:35
Devin__when am I configuring it04:35
rgenito...accidently typing that in IRC instead of FTP console lol04:35
* rgenito curiosity04:35
Devin__rgenito: lol!!!04:35
freedomrunhello .. there is some confusion here at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI .. the problem that could make confusion is done when AMD divided it`s drivers and now radeon HD3000 series are called legancy which are not the same "legancy" cards the manual talks about .. please could someone fix that so the new users won`t be confused more than it is necesary04:36
Devin__blackshirt: should I do it some how when I run the sudo dpkg -i *.deb command04:36
defaultrois LIbreoffice Writer the Winword version for liunux?04:38
OerHeksdefaultro, yes writer ~ word04:38
defaultroam I right that we can use the ttf fonts in Windows?04:39
defaultromajority of the fonts installed is  not showing up in Writer04:39
d1gitalwhat's the best way to pipe a socket over ssh?04:39
defaultrowhat do you want to do digital?04:39
d1gitalI need a tap-and-dye, and some WD-40!04:40
blackshirtDevin__: I don't know what are you trying to do :D04:40
d1gitalsay I want to stream audio, multiple streams to multiple clients, encrypted.04:41
defaultromaybe use shout then tunnel it in ssh04:41
Devin__blackshirt: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?page=view&resid=6FC53C5C75E5DBE0!1535&authkey=!AOu5CqV30Mf56bg04:42
Devin__blackshirt: you can look at the Labs > lab 01 file04:42
d1gitaldefaultro: so use an IP tunnel as opposed to writing to a socket?04:42
Devin__if you look under part II04:42
Devin__blackshirt: If ou look under part II he asks me to rename the kernel version to my initials04:42
defaultroeither will do04:43
defaultronot really familiar with sockets but if you meant tcp sockets, you can setup a listener i guess04:43
OerHekscome on blackshirt do his homework :-D04:44
Devin__blackshirt: is that tar.gz file need to be extracted ??04:45
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d1gitalso I know MPD can output to icecast... I wonder how well MPD handles living alongside other mpds..  I guess it could probably be run as a nonpriveleged user04:47
karthick87blackshirt: No it is a new installation04:47
Devin__hey what command would I use to extract a gz file04:47
d1gitalDevin__: gunzip04:48
tsimpsonDevin__: .gz, or .tar.gz?04:48
tsimpsonuse tar then, tar xvf some_file.tar.gz04:48
awc737is there a way to control any heat or underclocking settings on a laptop (linux mint, ubu based)?04:48
awc737this thing is burning my balls off04:48
blackshirt1Devin__: in wich part ? document, assignment, labs ?04:49
Devin__blackshirt1: sorry labs04:49
blackshirt1Devin__: wait a second04:49
Devin__labs>Lab01 go down to where is says part II04:49
Devin__tsimpson: so should it look like this tar linux-3.2.2.tar.gz04:50
tsimpsonDevin__: no, "tar xvf linux-3.2.2.tar.gz", the "xvf" part are arguments to the tar command. in this case 'x' for eXtract, 'v' for Verbose, and 'f' for Filename04:51
OerHeks!mint | awc737 maybe it is a mint issue04:51
ubottuawc737 maybe it is a mint issue: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org04:51
blackshirt1Devin__: my connection gets slow connection04:51
Devin__blackshirt1: oh sorry, can you not see it?04:51
awc737it's not an 'issue', its just my laptop, it gets scorching ho04:52
Devin__blackshirt1: do you know if I have to extract that .tar.gz04:52
awc737i was wondering if ubuntu had a power performance type setting04:52
blackshirt1Devin__: not yet finish :D04:52
ubottuTo access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions.04:52
OerHeksawc737, still a mint issue04:52
awc737its a dell issue then OerHeks04:53
blackshirt1Devin__: skydrive was suck04:53
awc737lol mint = ubuntu mins shitty desktop04:53
awc737its the same softwar04:53
Devin__blackshirt1: lol its the only option I had, i could jsut send you my onenote linke04:53
xanguaawc737: drop that language please04:54
blackshirt1Devin__: okey04:54
blackshirt1Devin__: just for your link I get slower connections :D04:54
Devin__blackshirt1: you see it now04:55
blackshirt1Devin__: very bad :D04:56
Devin__blackshirt1: do you want my pastebin link04:56
Devin__blackshirt1: http://pastebin.com/52etPCNQ04:56
Devin__blackshirt1: opps thats expired hold on04:57
Devin__blackshirt1: http://pastebin.com/b5DRuA8J04:58
blackshirt1Devin__: I look at pastebin04:59
blackshirt1Devin__: okay, what the problems is ?05:01
Devin__blackshirt1: how do I install the kernel the second way05:03
Devin__I installed the tar.gz05:03
Devin__blackshirt1: I installed the tar.gz, I got the 3.2.2 release05:03
blackshirt1Devin__: you should get a pristine kernel from kernel.org, download them, unpack them, configure it, and compile it... you should need some toold to build kernel05:05
Devin__blackshirt1: Ok I have downloaded it, and I unpacked it I think05:06
Devin__its in a folder now05:06
Devin__blackshirt1: its in a folder now completely extracted05:06
maikhas anyone else noticed the fglrx driver appears to be slower than the radeon driver?05:06
MiteshShahHow to detect ubuntu os is Desktop or server i'm used dpkg --list | grep ubuntu-desktop is there any better way to do this?05:07
maikwhen i use the radeon driver and drag windows around it's nice and smooth, but iwth fglrx it's noticably slow and choppy05:07
gogetaMiteshShah: does not matter only diffrence is the set of defult packages05:08
gogetaMiteshShah: and server normaly has no ui included05:08
gogetamaik: thats becouse amd linux gpu drivers are fail05:11
blackshirt1Devin__: I think yes05:11
gogetamaik: fglrx is also not compiz frendly05:12
Devin__blackshirt1: so what do I do to get this installed05:12
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gogetaDevin__: if your just trying to get the latest kernel just use  a ppa save you alot of work05:13
nickBuntuHey all05:13
Devin__gogeta: no I am doing a HW assignment and it wants me do get it from kernel.org05:14
nickBuntuhas anyone had experience with or know how to mount samba shares loged in through shh?05:14
gogetaDevin__: you will need build essentals its has everything you need to compile one05:14
Jigscan any1 help in solving MYSQL error05:15
nickBuntuI've been trying gvfs-mount smb:// etc  which work fine on the local machine from CLI,  But when logged into another through shh it doesn't work05:15
Devin__gogeta: I am following this link right now, will this work ? http://linuxtweaking.blogspot.com/2011/02/how-to-compile-kernel-from-kernelorg-in.html05:15
MiteshShahgogeta, i know that but i'm making script to install ffmpeg & node.js so enduser can easily install this packages  and as per ffmpeg guide they have some different packages for the server and desktop so i'm thinking to install only needed packages for the servers and desktop05:15
JigsERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)05:16
Jigsgave me solution05:16
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JigsERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)05:17
gogetaMiteshShah: the user cant run apt-get install ffmpeg?05:17
JigsERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)05:19
Jigsneed solution05:19
MiteshShahgogeta, we needed some custom features not all the features of ffmpeg so i needed those features only05:20
gogetaMiteshShah: will just do uname -a05:20
gogetaMiteshShah: it will tell you if you have the sever or genrec kernel05:20
rhizmoewhat is a/the DLNA server that doesn't transcode at all?05:20
gogetaMiteshShah: if you have unity there probly desktops05:22
MiteshShahgogeta, ubuntu server has generic-pae & desktop shows generic only05:22
gogetaMiteshShah: then there desktops with server softwhere05:22
MiteshShahgogeta, ok05:22
jilt007How to monitor all my system in a network05:22
JigsERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)05:23
gogetaMiteshShah: eg  they have unity installed05:23
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blackshirtDevin__: still there guys05:24
Devin__blackshirt: yeah jsut looking around to find some solutions05:24
MiteshShahgogeta, still i've dought how ubuntu detect while updating system weather the system has desktop or server?05:24
gogetaMiteshShah: generic-pae  it just the 32 bit kernel with extra ram support05:25
blackshirtDevin__: you should try to config05:25
blackshirtDevin__: it's a long process :D05:25
Devin__I don't know how to do that05:25
blackshirtDevin__: have you downloaded it and unpack it ?05:25
gogetaMiteshShah: it would say server on the kernel05:25
Devin__blackshirt: yeah I have a folder now called linux_3.2.205:26
JigsERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)05:26
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Devin__blackshirt: and it has folders in it like arch block crypto documentation. ... It looks like the full thing05:26
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Devin__blackshirt: did I wan't that or did I want to leave it somewhat compressed in like a tar or a gz05:27
gogetaMiteshShah: your custom ffmpeg will work on both no worrys05:27
blackshirtDevin__: yes, that was uncompressed version from your kernel sources have been downloaded05:27
Devin__blackshirt: so I should have it that way it is now to proceed?05:27
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z0NEinvite me to security05:28
nickBuntuno one with gvfs experiemce through a ssh connection?05:28
vvpalinwhat is gvfs ?05:28
blackshirtDevin__: if you want to compile by yourself, read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile05:28
nickBuntuGnome Virtual File System05:28
blackshirtvvpalin: that was gnome vfs05:29
nickBuntuanother method of mounting file systems.  but uses the user and deosn't need root access05:29
vvpalingotcha ... no sorry ive done sftp before tho, works like a dream05:29
Devin__blackshirt: yeah i was reading that earlier, but I don't have Edgy Hardy or intrepid do I, because i am dealing with strait linux, not ubuntu right?05:30
z0NEfree node hes innocent05:30
nickBuntuI'm logging into an shh session on another box and .gvfs doesn't seem to work remotely.  It work slocally just fine, but through ssh it has prob;ems I think. Unless I'm using incorrectly.  Which is more than likely05:30
Jigsis any 1 is there to help me05:31
nickBuntuWhat's up jigs?05:31
JigsERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)05:31
Jigswhen i fire this query:- mysql shermanbros < CREATEDATABASEUSERS.sql05:32
Jigserror coming as ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)05:32
somsipJigs: you need to add -p to your command line so it prompts you for your mySQL root user password. But this is not a ubuntu support question so please continue in #mysql05:33
blackshirtDevin__: if you not try to config and build kernel by yourself, you wouldn't learn what you want :d05:33
blackshirtDevin__: I just give you a advice :D05:33
lotuspsychjeseems like my square corrupt mouse pointer fixed itself with updates...05:33
Devin__blackshirt: yeah i agree, where do I even start though05:33
somsiplotuspsychje: wooo :-)05:33
lotuspsychjetnx to all who tryed to help this issue05:33
Devin__blackshirt: I am on 12.4 so is that the lucid>??05:33
blackshirtDevin__: greats learning guys05:33
Devin__blackshirt: Is 12.4 considered lucid05:34
lotuspsychjesomsip: :p05:34
blackshirtDevin__: no05:34
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Devin__blackshirt: If I am dealing with linux sorce code does that even apply, because are those names ubuntu names05:35
Guest86019daniela te quiero demaciado :05:35
lotuspsychje!es | Guest8601905:35
ubottuGuest86019: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:35
blackshirtDevin__: 12.04 was named with precise pangolin :D05:38
blackshirtlucid was 10.04 lts05:38
Devin__blackshirt: wheres my config file05:38
tapasok, what does this tell me: (chromium-browser:3591): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: No GSettings schemas are installed on the system05:39
tapassame for nautilus05:39
tapasand firefox05:39
tapasTrace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)05:39
tapasin dmesg: [  348.671244] nautilus[3602] trap int3 ip:7fb2e644ffdb sp:7fff329989b0 error:005:40
blackshirtDevin__: you should the guide step by step :D05:40
tapascan't google it since all my browsers depend on gtk ;D05:40
Devin__blackshirt: I am following the guide but it doesn't list pangolin05:40
gogetatapas: you can install a cli broswer like lynks :)05:42
tapasgogeta: actually konqueror works, too :D05:43
tapasalso it's either links or lynx ;D05:43
gogetatapas: heh you brake gtk05:43
tapas[two different once]05:43
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N03LHey guys.05:43
tapasgogeta: yeah..05:43
N03LI recently installed Ubuntu 12.04 via USB boot.05:43
hatoridiven__ greats05:43
kujablakHi, I'm looking for a software similar to wammu/gammu except for Android phones ?05:43
hatorin03l thats great05:44
tapassince i carefully avoid touching any gtk config stuff.. i wonder how i broke it..05:44
N03LUpon my first installation attempt, I failed, a msg popped up saying  'grub failed to install' or something along that line.05:44
gogetatapas: you try using dpkg --reconfigure05:44
N03LI initiated another installation and it worked.05:44
gogetatapas: or did you brake it mid update05:44
tapasgogeta: running an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade first..05:44
N03LHOwever, now I'm stuck with 2 installations. I partitioned my drive twice. How do I delete the first installation?05:45
tapasgogeta: nah, i just rebooted.. no update process at that time..05:45
N03LAlso, I'm dualbooting with Windows 7/05:45
gogetatapas: strange05:45
tapasgogeta: indeed05:45
tapasgogeta: also what package would you recommend for dpkg --reconfigure?05:45
gogetatapas: gtk i would assume05:46
tapasaaah, it might have been the attempt to install skype..05:46
gogetatapas: gtk2 or 305:46
Jordan_UN03L: Moving a partition "to the left" can be a very slow operation. It would probably be faster and easier (since it's a fresh install anyway) to whipe both installations then install again.05:46
gogetatapas: thers a command for that heh lemmie get it05:47
N03LJordan_U: I'm afraid that the installation might fail again.05:48
gogetatapas: try sudo dpkg configure -a05:49
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tapasgogeta: ok, once the apt-get upgrade is through..05:49
N03LThe only inconvenience is that the first installation, I partitioned my drive to like 100GB. So I'm running out of space.05:49
gogetatapas: that should resume any configs that did not compleate05:49
N03LWIth only 25GB left for Windows.05:49
tapasgogeta: good to know :D05:50
gogetatapas: worst case you drop down to cli purge  gtk and reinstall05:50
gogetatapas: that will restore the defult configs05:50
tapasgogeta: ok..05:51
gogetatapas: ill wager ubuntu whont like that to mutch lol05:51
drcodehi all05:53
hatorihi drcode05:53
drcodeI have found that ati amd 7750 opengl dosn't work on kubuntu , it worked perfect under ubuntu and unity05:54
ansi_please someone help after doing sudo apt-get update i am getting this error message   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223933/05:54
ansi_please someone help        after doing sudo apt-get update i am getting this error message   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223933/05:55
tapasansi_: remove the offending lines from your sources.lst05:55
ansi_tapas how do i do that??05:55
gogetaansi_: your ppa must be down05:55
tapasansi_: or rather comment them out..05:55
tapasansi_: take an editor and edit /etc/apt/sources.lst05:55
hatoridrcode, i think thats specific to kubuntu, have you asked in #kubuntu?05:55
tapasansi_: sources.list really05:56
ansi_tapas pls dont mind but i am new to linux and ubuntu so i request you to guide me05:56
tapasansi_: a] open a text editor b] open /etc/apt/sources.list c] put a hash # in front of those lines that match your error message05:57
tapasoh, and you have to do that as root..05:57
tapasansi_: i have my own system breakage atm, so i can't help you in more detail...05:57
hatoritapas, you should open the editor with root privileges to edit sources.list05:58
tapas07:57 < tapas> oh, and you have to do that as root..05:58
ansi_opened the file as root   but which are the lines that i need to put #05:58
gogetaansi_: same ones that have the error05:59
tapasthanks skype, for a] not working and b] fscking up my system..05:59
gogetatapas: lol05:59
drcodeI will try  , thanx05:59
twitchieppa's should be removed from software-center .. edit->software sources-> other software tab05:59
gogetatapas: it is microsoft code05:59
Devin__blackshirt: hey you still there06:00
tapasgogeta: ah, that explains it..06:00
tapasgogeta: where they aquired?06:00
chuckUbuntu Newb: I know for certain that my computer has been hacked. I lost root privileges, I cannot access recovery mode; it says the password is wrong, my CD ROM has been Disabled so that I cannot reinstall the OS06:00
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gogetatapas: yea they bought skype a wile ago06:00
hatoridevin__, blackshirt was gone ...06:01
gogetachuck: go in your bios and turn the cd rom back on06:01
ansi_tapas i found the other three.. but for this what should i comment W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D8AD4DE78EEBB0CA06:01
hatorichuck... You should ensure it06:01
chuckgogeta: it wont give me that option in bios06:01
woot-0854_#http://ppalaunchpad.net oneiric06:02
gogetachuck: prety shure they didnt mod your bios look in the boot order06:02
ansi_tapas i found the other three.. but for this what should i comment W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D8AD4DE78EEBB0CA06:02
chuckgogeta, I have tried to change the boot order already. It wont allow the ROM Disable to be Enabled06:03
gogetachuck: you can also boot into single user mode and recover root06:03
chuckgogeta: How?06:03
gogetachuck: in grub add init 1 to the kernel line06:04
gogetachuck: it will boot into a single user mode from there you can change the root password06:04
chuckgogeta, I have a second computer to access info online. Is there a step by step webpage?06:05
chuckgogeta THANKS, I'll try06:05
gogetachuck: init 1 will boot into root only mode06:05
gogetachuck: and you will be logged in as root06:05
gogetachuck: its a failsafe on lost passwords etc06:06
chuckgogeta thanks again. Im out06:06
jilt007chuck:  but by default /  is in read only mode  ao you have to mount it in rw mode  there when you wil get terminal06:07
gogetachuck: then just type passwd and it will ask to set a new pass06:07
tapasreinstalling and reconfiguring all these glib, gtk, etc.. packages didn't help :(06:07
jilt007chuck  then use passwd after  mounting rw06:07
tapasand google is cvery unhelpful when it comes to this error06:07
gogetatapas: may not take effect intill reboot06:08
gogetatapas: being thats stuff in use06:08
rahul_banyalHii, I can see shared folder of win7 in ubuntu but can't see the share folder of ubuntu in win7, can anyone pls help me?06:08
jilt007rahul_banyal:  samba?06:08
gogetatapas: or at last rebooting xorg06:09
jilt007rahul_banyal:  selinux policy set ?06:09
hatorijilt007, seliinux was not used by ubuntu by default06:09
woot-0854_rahul is a cool name06:10
tapasgogeta: thanks for the tips.. will /etc/init.d/lightdm restart ;D06:10
jilt007hatori: ok06:10
tapasgogeta: no dice :(06:11
tapasdid a whole system reboot..06:12
yankwhat is the use of python-software-properties06:13
yankat our place we install it before adding a launchpad ppa06:13
yankalthough do this without installing python-software-properties..So what does it do ?06:13
gogetatapas: darn06:15
tapasand /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/ is populated..06:16
gogetatapas: the other guy will be back to its init=1 lol06:16
tapaswhich is what dpkg -L gsettings-desktop-schemas tells me..06:16
gogetatapas: been a wile sense i had to brake in my own system06:16
Jordan_Ugogeta: Simply '1' will boot into single user mode, and the "init" parameter (seen as completely separate) will be ignored as it's meaningless on its own. So they will still get single user mode. But, they already have tried single user mode because that's what "recovery mode" is, so still no progress.06:17
gogetaJordan_U: hes not back yet so06:18
gogetaJordan_U: if he gets into runlevel 1 he can get his root acess back06:19
[deXter]Hi all, what's a good streaming audio player that supports AAC streams and ID3 tags?06:19
gogetaJordan_U: just dont see how they crippled his cd rom06:19
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Jordan_Ugogeta: For no particularly sane reason that I can think of, if a root password is set you need to enter it to get into single user mode. Ubuntu just doesn't have a root password by default (and one shouldn't create one).06:20
tapasit seems to be user specific.. added another user and started a gnome session06:20
Captain_Clawclementine is a music player that supports both those things.06:20
Jordan_Ugogeta: I'm almost certain they're simply mistaken. I doubt they've been "hacked" at all.06:20
tapasi guess i'll have to reset all gtk and gnome related config files..06:21
tapaswhich is a pita06:21
gogetaJordan_U: well worst case as long as its not a dell pull the cmos battery06:21
gogetaJordan_U: reset all bios settings to stock06:22
gogetaJordan_U: dells use a eprom pulling cmos does not work06:24
woot-0854_gogeta, dells eprom can be reset06:25
gogetawoot-0854_: if you short it but for the uskills it can = system death06:25
woot-0854_gogeta, I got lucky :)06:25
tapaswhy is gtk so brittle? :D06:26
tapasoh well, i'll setup my user's home directory anew..06:26
gogetatapas: :( dunno i never broke it06:26
tapasgogeta: it's the one thing that breaks the most in my 10+ years linux experience..06:27
tapasanyways.. bbiab..06:27
gogetatapas: 10 years never broke gtk06:27
gogetatapas: did brake kde once thow06:28
woot-0854_gogeta, I pulled the power unlached the cmos pulled the processor cable, replaced power cable hit power button.  held powerbutton till machine went down again.  waited for the orange light to go off, pulled power and connected processor one more power cycle and it worked06:29
Hatorifor gnome, you can easily reset gnome setting... Reset it and blah,you have an new look06:29
woot-0854_gogeta, I replaced the cmos before the second power on06:29
gogetawoot-0854_: nice on my old c610 you have to use a paper clip to short it on a certen pin06:29
gogetawoot-0854_: i have not had the curage to do it and the syste works fine06:30
woot-0854_gogeta, no jumper?   lame and ya dangerous06:30
gogetawoot-0854_: luckly  it has a hot key for boot order06:30
gogetawoot-0854_: but these days it just sits on the shelf06:32
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gogetawoot-0854_: nedding parts im to lazy to order06:32
gogetawoot-0854_: and i got 3 newer laptops06:33
gogetawoot-0854_: like with any older tec cant sell it dont wanna trash it06:33
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gogetawoot-0854_: was thinking of getting one of the ide to sd card adaptors being old ide drive are a bit hard to find these days06:34
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!06:35
woot-0854_gogeta, ot try wary puppy for old stuff :)  I have one ide 27g06:35
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gogetawoot-0854_: yep but the drive is dead i did run puppy off a live cd06:42
NordomI am having problems installing a .tgz, I downloaded androdi-sdk and use the archive extracter program to extra it to a folder, I then use termincal and used CD to open to said folder, once inside I type sudo ./configure but says "command not found" I thought the file might be corupt so I redled it but same problem. Any pointers in how to install it?06:43
Hatorinordom. Configure was script on your sources dir06:44
NordomHatori, then what should I do?06:45
Hatorinordom, if it wasn't on there maybe you get corrupted packages..06:45
Nordomdirect from androids website!?06:45
HatoriTry redownload it or maybe there install files need to read06:45
Nordomwell actually 3 times06:45
Hatorinordom,i think there are some guide on them06:46
Nordomthe read me that came with conveintly forgot the instillation bit06:48
Hatorinordom, maybe some .bin / .run files06:49
Nordomwell I looked in the folder and nothing like that besides read me and other folders in it, but I am ubuntu nub so it there is some special command it is eluding me06:50
deffragHi! How do I configure HDDs in soft raid when they already have OSs installed?06:50
Nordomwelll , I am just going to dl it from ppa, so06:52
NordomFU androids website =/06:52
woot-0854_lots of ppa problums tonight06:52
Nordomum yeah, i just got an error just now =(06:53
Nordomsigh another day without the SDK06:53
Nordomwoot-0854: I assume ur talking about the time-conflict-error right?06:53
woot-0854_Nordom, I haven't been really reading into it just lots of failed updates and sources,lst customizes06:54
Nordomwell, since my I am unable to pull any thing, and u said its buggy, I am thinking my current problem is related to that06:55
Nordomoh well theres always tomorrow =/06:55
woot-0854_Nordom, try distro.ibiblio.org?06:55
NordomI could but I am lazy ;) going to play with customizing ubuntus gui =D06:56
Nordomonly need to burn 30 more min or work the way it is, no reason to work to hard ;D06:56
ozzloyi used http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html to install java 1.7, but i want to have java 1.6 instead for eclipse android development.  how do i do that?07:01
woot-0854_ozzloy, you know about distro.ibiblio.org?07:02
MonkeyDustozzloy  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_.28Sun.29_Java_607:02
ozzloywoot-0854_, no07:02
ozzloyMonkeyDust, checking it out now07:02
aneekhi there07:03
aneekanyone know ubuntu samba sharing07:03
aneekhello does any one here ubuntu expert07:04
aneekable to help me07:04
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.07:04
aneekyeah samba07:04
tapashmm, different question: i asked this several times on #kde, but never got an answer:07:06
rigocan you help me installing a driver for tvcard?07:06
tapassomeone know how to make kde offer to mount my encrypted (second) hd?07:06
tapasnautilus shows it without problems..07:06
rigoor.. how can i see if a hw driver is installed?07:07
rigoi'm having troubles installing this http://pikacode.com/liplianin/s2-liplianin-v35/commit/45d9a7ea64dc07:08
tapasoh, dolphin actually shows it..07:09
ozzloyit looks like i already have openjdk-6-jre installed.  how do i use it instead of oracle's 1.7 jre?07:10
Nordomanyone use a program like myunity or know of programs like it?07:11
aneekhi all07:12
aneekany one know samba sharing ?07:12
tapasaneek: be more specific, please07:14
MonkeyDustNordom  there's also ccsm, compiz-config07:14
woot-0854_is beryl still working?07:14
Nordomthx MonkeyDust!07:14
MonkeyDustwoot-0854_  no07:14
aneektapas i neew to know how to access samba sharing via cli07:14
aneeki need to know07:15
tapasaneek: which part of sharing?07:15
woot-0854_MonkeyDust, ok :(07:15
ozzloycool, sudo update-alternatives --config java07:15
tapasaneek: search for shares, etc?07:15
woot-0854_ozzloy, gratz07:15
aneekyeah actually there some user folder on samba server those shared07:15
aneekbut which command is use to access them07:16
aneekcould u help me on that07:16
tapasaneek: i think the command is smbclient or something07:16
aneekyeah i check out in some example07:16
aneektapas command was same what not able to get that senario07:17
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tapasaneek: sorry, i don't understand what you're saying..07:17
aneektapas i search for help on google as well07:18
ozzloywoot-0854_, thanks07:18
Guest31800I am trying to make a bootable cd for a mac, but it just isn't working. After I boot of the CD I just get this flashing line that doesn't do anything. Its really annoying07:18
aneekcommand that u r telling me smbclient was there in some example07:18
aneekbut i didn't understand those given examples07:18
IdleOneaneek: What is your native language?07:18
MonkeyDust!nomodeset > Guest3180007:19
ubottuGuest31800, please see my private message07:19
aneekhindi  idleone07:19
aneekguest31800 try unetbootin utility for task07:20
aneekif any one can check this out samba sharing for me07:22
Guest31800So this black line problem doesn't even enter the boot screen07:22
ceborhi is it ok to set the home dirs for my systemusers in /opt/  (like: /opt/teamspeak for sysuser temspeak)07:22
aneeki can give my teamvieawer07:22
jilt007I have two system one has iptables rules for ssh to reject connect , how to bypass this from my other system07:22
Guest31800or rather white line problem. When booting off the ubuntu CD on my macbook pro I just see a white line flashing and that is it. I really need to get ubuntu working and would appreciate any help07:22
aneekguest31800 try with pendrive for booting07:23
vartotojasmorning. I guess i need the newest jawa version. The problem is that i dont know how to install it07:23
vartotojascan anyone help me out?07:23
ceboror should i place all in /srv/ ?07:24
twitchie!java | vartotojas07:25
ubottuvartotojas: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.07:25
MarcoFeragazzi buongiorno07:31
adeMorning all, quick question... I know it's possible to dual boot win7 and Ubuntu, but is it possible to have more than one Ubuntu install (so three os in total)??07:31
MarcoFeuna curiosità07:31
llutzade: sure07:32
MarcoFema come faccio a migliorare la grafica su kde quando uso eclipse, quindi java?07:32
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)07:32
adellutz: cheers bud, I knew it was possible to have four patritions max, but wasn;t sure how many could be root07:33
fidelade: yep triple or whatever booting is possible in theory - but personaly i would always prefer using virtual machines instead of messing around with rebooting all day long. (personal preference)07:33
MonkeyDustade  four primary partitions, that is07:33
llutzade: you can create an extended partition holding logical drives to use for linux-installations. you don't need primaries for linux07:33
llutzfidel: +107:34
adefidel: yes me too, but have to do some hw tests (instead of vm ones) so didn't want to mess things up. Thanks.07:34
adellutz: ah, great idea! Not sure what the limit is then but I know its a lot! lol07:34
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llutzade: limit is 15 logical drives with libata irrc07:35
llutzerr 12, 3primary+12 logical, something like that. should be enough though07:36
adellutz: Sure I read somewhere recently that with logical partitions is was possible (at least in theory) to hold something like 162 partitions!? Don;t think I will quite need that many but I like options lol07:37
llutzade: it has been maximum of 63 "partitions" with IDE but theres a lower limit with SCSI(libata) which is used since a while07:38
linociscohi all07:40
adellutz: That will be where I conjured that figure from then :o) Thanks's for the great advice07:41
linociscoI am sure everybody is aware of attack on Godaddy's website . Ubuntu site is backed by Godaddy. I am wondering how much it affected on ubuntu site.07:41
Kartagishow can I make simplescan scan my photos/documents brighter?07:41
llutz!ot | linocisco07:41
ubottulinocisco: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:41
linociscoxiukun, cn = china?07:45
vltHello. I switched from KDE to Ubuntu and Gnome recently. Where can I find the clibboard history now?07:46
fragmachineHello, I'm trying to write a program in C that can pull text from the clipboard. I found a little bit of information on the net about it, but I was wondering where I would find documentation on clipboards and selections etc?07:47
Kartagisfragmachine: #c07:48
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xXDjGXxsup guys07:50
Kartagishow can I make simplescan scan my photos/documents brighter?07:51
MonkeyDustKartagis  use any image editor to that end07:56
KartagisMonkeyDust: no other way?07:57
MonkeyDustKartagis  what other way did you have in mind?07:57
MonkeyDustKartagis  there's also xsane, it's more advanced, more editable07:58
llutzKartagis: as the name says, its "simple". if you need more options to scan, use xsane07:58
KartagisMonkeyDust: set a preference or play with some configuration option to scan them brighter?07:58
MonkeyDustKartagis  in xsane, yes07:59
p`p.msg nickserv register07:59
ActionParsnip p`p: may want a pass change :)08:01
Chrys0pras3I tried to install ubuntu to an external hdd, but now each time I boot, it complains about "unknow filesystem"08:05
Chrys0pras3The first partition is nfts for data, the next has ubuntu installed, and the last is swap08:06
Chrys0pras3So now each time I boot, I have to go through set prefix, set root, insmod, etc08:07
gordonjcpChrys0pras3: can you post the error verbatim, please?08:07
Chrys0pras3I'd have to reboot08:07
Chrys0pras3I decided to reinstall ubuntu, so how can I prevent this from happenning?08:08
Chrys0pras31. where do I install the boot loader, in the disk or in the partition?08:09
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Chrys0pras32. do I need a separate partition to mount /boot?08:10
KartagisChrys0pras3: 1. disk, 2. no08:10
BebopSteveIs anyone familiar with docky configuration files? http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky08:10
SkyKnight /msg nickserv identify alagunambi08:10
BebopStevepoor skyknight08:11
somsipChrys0pras3: you don't need one, though sometimes it's recommended08:11
Chrys0pras33. Do I need to change the name of sdb where I'll mount the boot loader so it'll work in any machine?08:11
Chrys0pras3Here it says to edit /etc/fstabby changing all sdb's to sda's but I did't understant08:13
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ActionParsnipChrys0pras3: its usual to use the UUID of the block device08:14
ActionParsnipChrys0pras3: its more reliable than the whole sda sdb thing08:14
olga__доброго времени суток08:14
fidel!ru | olga__08:15
ubottuolga__: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.08:15
fidelman why does everyone think his native language is the 'bomb' for everyone ;)08:15
Ben64i want to run a command when a certain pid is done, how can i do so? I was trying something like this... if [ kill -0 $pid ]; then echo "foobar"; fi08:16
ActionParsnipBen64: so when the PID dies, you want to run a command?08:17
Ben64ActionParsnip: correct08:17
Ben64ActionParsnip: not sure how to get the kill -0 thing to work with if or while08:17
ActionParsnipBen64: you could use:  top -n 1    then grep / awk to the PID colomn to then grep for your PID value08:18
WACOMalthow do I change the group of a folder via terminal?08:18
ActionParsnipWACOMalt: chgrp08:18
llutzWACOMalt: chgrp group directory08:18
wdpWACOMalt, chown user:group folder08:18
WACOMaltok thank you :)08:18
Ben64ActionParsnip: then how does it go to a script?08:19
WACOMaltalso how to add a user to a group?08:19
llutzWACOMalt: man adduser (adduser user group)08:19
Ben64WACOMalt: usermod08:19
ActionParsnipBen64: let me play08:19
Ben64WACOMalt: usermod -a -G <group> <user to add to said group>08:20
llutzand don't miss the -a ....08:21
WACOMaltI got it, thank you guys08:21
chuckCould someone please tell me which root command lists all users?08:21
WACOMaltwas making a minecraft group for my server, and having it control a folder08:21
llutzchuck: getent passwd08:21
chuckllutz thank you08:22
jalexandruhi, anybody can recommend a cd clone software for ubuntu 12.04?08:22
Ben64jalexandru: what do you mean exactly08:22
MonkeyDustchuck  simply type 'w' in a terminal08:22
fideljalexandru: asking for a burn app?08:22
jalexandruI have a cd and I want to copy it exaclty how it is08:22
Ben64jalexandru: dd08:22
jalexandruThanks ben64 and fidel08:23
chuckMonkeyDust" That seems to only list the one active User08:23
leblebihello! :)08:24
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Guest70980can anyone please help me      i am getting error on apt-get update  W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D8AD4DE78EEBB0CA08:25
Guest70980can anyone please help me      i am getting error on apt-get update  W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D8AD4DE78EEBB0CA08:25
fidel!repeat > Guest7098008:25
ubottuGuest70980, please see my private message08:25
fidelGuest70980: ppa's are usualy not supported inhere. in general do you understand the error-message?08:26
ActionParsnipBen64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224074/08:26
MonkeyDust!ppa > Guest7098008:26
ubottuGuest70980, please see my private message08:26
llutzActionParsnip: ps --no-headers -p <PID>|| echo not running08:27
leblebiWhere is the default directory which is copying on the Home folder of new created user? I mean where is the default home folder? I want to change it. So every each new user will have these settings (home folder) as default. Thank you!08:27
ActionParsnipllutz: nice, my bashfu is only yellow belt08:28
tsimpsonleblebi: /etc/skel08:28
fidelleblebi: i assue it is /etc/skel08:28
Ben64ActionParsnip: wow thanks, that works great08:29
chuckWhen I root command: <getent passwd> I sifted through and found this: Could nobody:65534:65534:nobody: nonexistent: /bin/sh be a hacker08:30
llutzchuck: no it is a normal account for special purposes08:30
WACOMaltok, this is probably a bit out of ubuntu chat scope, but its late :P I have an ftp server running, but my main user cannot get full directory access. it is limited to it's domain.08:31
WACOMalthow can I change it's root folder and permissions?08:31
leblebitsimpson and fidel : first thank you! but there is just 3 folder inside /etc/skel . ?! Where are the others? If I copy here a new folder, It will created on the Home folder of new user?08:31
chuckI have an account on the "Log In" page which says "Other" but the root commands show no such user. Meanwhile it's password protected.08:32
tsimpsonleblebi: the others are created by the applications when they need to create them, but that directory is copied for each new (non-system) users home08:32
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llutzchuck: a guest-account? you should disable that in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf  "allow-guest=false"08:33
leblebitsimpson Ok. Thank you! :)08:33
chuckthanks llutz08:33
kifeeyneed help pleaseeeeeee08:35
LadyOnais it possible to recover encrypted rar files? I cant remeber the password08:36
kifeeyany developer in the house?08:36
kifeeycan someone assist me with a usecase diagram?08:37
haraldneukoelnwhich files in etc should I exclude when cloning a system to a different pc? fstab, X11?08:37
bazhangLadyOna, not possible08:37
bazhangkifeey, give us way more details08:38
fidelkifeey: i doubt that question is channel-related ;)08:38
Guest70980where do i found this !ppa08:38
Jordan_ULadyOna: Did you set the password yourself?08:38
kifeeyam working on a software for asset monitoring and tracking08:38
fidelGuest70980: you added it - and it should be found in /etc/apt/08:39
ElixirVitaeI am having trouble mounting a drive08:39
bazhangkifeey, and asset means what? please be VERY clear08:39
ElixirVitaeI am using pysdm08:39
fidel!enter > ElixirVitae08:39
ubottuElixirVitae, please see my private message08:39
kifeeyasset means like equipment08:39
bazhangkifeey, could you please ask your full question, all on one line08:40
kifeeybazhang, i want to develop a use case for asset management and tracking system08:41
bazhangElixirVitae, thats the gui to help with fstab?08:41
bazhangkifeey, sorry no idea what that means without more details08:41
ElixirVitaeI allocated previously unallocated part of my current internal HDD, and make two primary partitions, one ext4 other ntfs. The problem is, while ntfs is mounted at boot time for all users, ext4 is root only. I want to make it available for read/write and tried Storage Device Manager, no dice08:42
Guest70980fidel sir, please pardon my ignorance i am new to linux and ubuntu where can i find the ppa that i need to delete08:42
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kifeeybazhang, are u a programmer?08:42
ElixirVitaeyes, it is, bazhang08:42
twitchieGuest70980, ppa's should be removed from software-center .. edit->software sources-> other software tab08:42
bazhangkifeey, how does this relate to ubuntu08:42
fidelGuest70980: well somehow you where able to add a ppa in the first place - the bot told you already what a ppa is - and i answered where it it - so what in detail is unclear now?08:43
kifeeyjust looking for a channel that can address that08:43
gordonjcpkifeey: why reinvent the wheel?08:43
gordonjcpkifeey: contribute to an existing project08:43
bazhangElixirVitae, so whats the issue? you could also just use an editor to add to fstab08:43
kifeeybazhang, can you link me to any channel that can assist me?08:43
bazhang!alis | kifeey here have a search08:44
ubottukifeey here have a search: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*08:44
ElixirVitaemy fstab line for ext4 is: /dev/sda3 /media/Storage  ext4  group=elixirvitae,users,user,owner  0  008:44
pranavkI want to see the size of all the folders that are present in my home directory. Unfortunately 'ls -l' only lists correct size for files not folders. How to computer the size of folders recursively08:44
ElixirVitaebut it does not mount and is still only root access08:44
Ben64pranavk: du -h08:44
llutzElixirVitae:you use chown/chmod to adjust permissions on ext4, not boot.options in fstab08:45
fidelGuest70980: there are several ways to handle that - either use the software-center as mentioned above - or via cli if you prefer commandline08:45
MonkeyDustElixirVitae  add 'defaults' between  ext4 and group08:45
ElixirVitaeI tried that as well, llutz08:45
Guest70980twitchie's response  is what i think i should try08:45
fidelGuest70980: yep. if you solved that - ask yourself how you were able to add a ppa without knowing you did so - as it somehow looks like you just entered commands you dont know/understand ...which you never should do ;)08:46
Guest70980fidel sir, i just copied and pasted what ever sites tell me to do..08:46
pranavkBen64: it is giving size of each of the file recursively, I want only collective size of each folder on my home folder. I don't care about the sizes of files/folders inside the home folders.08:46
LadyOnaJordan_U:  Yes, I set the password my self!08:47
Guest70980now how can i remove.. i dont see an option in softwarecentre to edit08:47
Jordan_U /away08:47
ElixirVitaelike this, MonkeyDust: http://imgur.com/ymcTH08:47
Guest70980i am talking of ubuntu 12.0408:47
Ben64pranavk: check out the man page for du, it has an option for depth08:47
fidelGuest70980: yep - and that is a thing you NEVER should do in the first place08:47
ElixirVitaealso, what does it do, defaults line, I mean08:47
ptmanhi! where would i get netboot installer images that install lucid but with a newer kernel?08:47
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Jordan_ULadyOna: Knowing some information about the password can help make recovery possible, but it will only be possible if you chose a particularly weak password also.08:47
bazhangptman, there are none08:47
fidelGuest70980: if someone tells you to take a gun and shoot yourself in the head you dont do it either without thinking about it. no offense - just trying to point out some dangers ;)08:47
kifeeythanks guys08:48
MonkeyDustElixirVitae  no, without the comma after defaults -- so: ext4    defaults    group...08:48
ptmanbazhang, well crap08:48
llutzMonkeyDust: wrong, options don't have to contain spaces08:48
LadyOnaJordan_U:  I tried all possible passwords ...08:48
ptmanbazhang, any pointers to how I would make some?08:48
MonkeyDustllutz  but it makes it more readable08:49
llutzMonkeyDust: it makes fstab corrupt08:49
Guest70980fidel u are right.. please help , i need to know the entire process and control flow as to how linux / ubuntu works..  like this GPG error i couldnt get to know how to handle until u people have told me..08:49
MonkeyDustllutz  please, don't confuse people08:49
Ben64LadyOna: there are rar password crackers, but unless its a very short password, it'd probably take too long08:49
MonkeyDustllutz  they are tabs, not spaces08:50
Guest70980i dont know what command to use simply to unstall an applicaiton that i installed either thru software centre synaptics or cli08:50
Guest70980i'll request yo to be a lil patient and  understand08:50
llutzMonkeyDust: it makes fstab corrupt, options have to be separated by comma08:50
Ben64Guest70980: usually "apt-get remove <name>"08:50
LadyOnaBen64: I always use unsense words and digits too08:50
ElixirVitaedoes that not make <option> = defaults and  <dump> = group... MonkeyDust?08:51
KvaksWhat's the best way to securely delete (unrecoverable) a file on an SSD with ext4?08:51
llutzElixirVitae: thats it and its wrong08:51
Guest70980fidel : why do GPG errors occur in the first place08:51
Ben64Kvaks: check out "shred"08:51
Guest70980what would this mean NO_PUBKEY D8AD4DE78EEBB0CA08:52
ElixirVitaeWhat puzzles me why ntfs is read/write for all users whereas ext4 is only root08:52
ElixirVitaeDoes it have to do with Linux filesystem permissions?08:52
MonkeyDustllutz  falser, no commas in my fstab08:52
llutzMonkeyDust: you separate fields in fstab by whitespace/tab but not the contents of the fields. options (field 4) must not contain any space08:52
Ben64ElixirVitae: permissions, you have to create a folder they own or change permissions on the root directory08:52
KvaksBen64: Thanks.08:52
llutzMonkeyDust: read "man fstab"08:53
ElixirVitaeWell, pysdm does what I do with nano through terminal, and when I say turn back to defaults, it makes <option> line defaults08:54
MonkeyDustplease llutz , do you see a comma here    UUID=76ca71ff-4090-43b3-9a8a-3af687216d4c /home           ext4    defaults        0       208:54
llutzMonkeyDust: no why should i? you only have 1 OPTION so theres nothing to separate08:54
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llutzMonkeyDust: UUID=e44d2084-a47c-4175-bb78-baa0e41514c0       /               ext4            defaults,discard,noatime,errors=remount-ro,barrier=1 0 108:55
MonkeyDustllutz  the guy only needed defaults, please don't try to discuss08:55
Acid190anyone available for a cloak?08:55
llutzAcid190: ask in #freenode08:56
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Guest70980fidel ??08:56
llutzMonkeyDust: true but why did you tell him then to insert "defaults" before "group...."?08:56
ElixirVitaeMonkeyDust, llutz here= http://i.imgur.com/EYPgM.png08:56
ElixirVitaeDefaults option makes it root only, MonkeyDust08:56
ElixirVitaewhich was how it was in the first place08:57
llutzElixirVitae: you change the permissions with chown/chmod08:57
ElixirVitaeI don't want to change it for this boot, llutz, I want it to be persistent08:57
llutzElixirVitae: it will be persistent08:57
llutzElixirVitae: thats how unix-fs work08:57
* ElixirVitae goes to investigate man chown.08:58
llutzElixirVitae: mount the filesystem, then "sudo chown user:group /mountpoint" to your needs08:58
fidelGuest70980: sorry - i have to work myself right now. try to ask your general questions directly to the channel/all ppl08:58
ElixirVitaein my case it is elixirvitae:group, no?08:59
blackshirtwhat the problems?09:00
llutzElixirVitae: if you are the only to access, set it to elixirvitae:elixirvitae09:00
ElixirVitaeokay, one other thing, where can I learn more about user groups and having multiple users with different level of access, is there a man page or tutorial?09:00
llutz!permissions | ElixirVitae maybe here09:01
ubottuElixirVitae maybe here: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions09:01
blackshirtelixirvitae, learn some ACL on detail09:01
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jerry_l1what are some real good micro server machines? ones that cost less that $50?09:02
gordonjcpjerry_l1: none, really09:02
gordonjcpjerry_l1: you want an HP Microserver09:02
ElixirVitaeI need to reboot for changes to be active, I presume09:02
jerry_l1sorry/ meant web page server09:02
ElixirVitaeblackshirt, ACL being acronym for ...09:03
llutzElixirVitae: and btw, you better use UUID (from sudo blkid) in your fstab, not device names which could change09:03
jerry_l1i have seen some things like adrno machines but they end up pricing over 100.00 for 5watt web page servers.09:03
ElixirVitaeYeah, I plan to do so for externals, so many things to learn, I sometimes get frustrated09:03
blackshirtelixirvitae, that was for access control list09:04
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ElixirVitaeI feel like I crippled my reach after migrating to ubuntu from windows, I will emerge victorious through sheer stubbornness, I guess~09:04
Guest70307i have problem with ssh command09:05
Guest70307who can help me09:05
Guest70307ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f "09:05
ElixirVitaeThanks for the help, MonkeyDust, llutz, blackshirt!!!09:05
blackshirtelixirvitae, not trully right... If you have learn some basic, you should get improvemebt :d09:05
Guest70307ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f " who can help?09:06
Guest70307ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f " who can help?09:06
Guest70307ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f " who can help?09:06
Guest70307ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f " who can help?09:06
Guest70307ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f " who can help?09:06
FloodBot1Guest70307: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:06
overbytheredude calm down, if no one knows at the moment, try later09:06
Guest70307ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f " who can help?09:07
Ben64Guest70307: stop spamming09:07
Guest70307i am not spam09:07
overbythereGuest70307: typing it multiple times will make people not talk to you, even if they know the answer, wait.09:07
Guest70307i am human with trouble problem09:07
Guest70307im so sorry09:07
Ben64!patience | Guest7030709:07
ubottuGuest70307: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/09:07
Guest70307im so sorry ..... please some body answer me ...09:08
Promillesorry, miss-typed09:11
restingwhy does it say The program 'pcretest' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:09:12
restingapt-get install libpcre309:12
jdo_dkHow do i create a secure fileshare between to ubuntu servers ?09:12
restingand when i type apt-get install libpcre3, it says its already the newest version09:12
restingi need to run pcretest09:12
hatorijdo_dk: using some type of server ? samba ? nfs ?09:13
Promillejdo_dk: you can set up an ssh-server?09:13
llutz!find pcretest09:14
jdo_dkhatori and promille: What is the best?09:14
ubottuPackage/file pcretest does not exist in precise09:14
llutzresting: ^^09:14
jdo_dkBoth servers is already running ssh09:14
hatorijdo_dk: i don't know what you need exactly09:14
Promillejdo_dk: then do sudo aÃpt-get install filezilla, and connect through that. remember to choose the right potocol09:15
jdo_dkserver1 should push files to server2. server2 is public and server1 is "internal"09:15
Ben64jdo_dk: you could use rsync09:16
restingllutz: so no way i can run pcretest?09:16
llutzresting: idk what that is, but its not contained in any package09:17
Promillejdo_dk: install filezilla on server2 and download files from server1 with filezilla(through the SFTP protocol). or do it reverse and "push" files over09:17
llutzresting: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52161/pcretest-seems-to-be-gone-from-libpcre3-package09:17
BebopSteveSorry to repeat from about 90 minutes ago, is anyone familiar with docky configuration files? http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky09:18
restingllutz: ah..ok...09:18
Promillejdo_dk: reverse meaning installing filezilla on server 1 and transfering them over to server 2(since both have ssh installed).09:18
llutzresting: get the maverick packages, extract the pcretest and put it into ~/bin (just my idea)09:19
ubottuirssi is a terminal based IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help. See also !screen09:20
jdo_dkPromille: Thanks09:22
varunhow do i append a file? it says bash: : Permission denied09:23
llutzvarun: which command?09:24
Promillevarun: you're using sudo?09:24
varuni was trying with echo09:25
varunno sudo didnt help09:25
varunllutz: i was trying with echo09:25
llutz!details | varun09:26
ubottuvarun: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:26
gordonjcpvarun: something like "sudo echo "this thing" > that_file" won't work09:26
somsipvarun: you need you use tee - http://superuser.com/questions/136646/how-to-append-to-a-file-as-sudo09:27
varungordonjcp: sudo echo "(xend-http-server yes)">>/etc/xen/xend-config.sxp09:28
varunbash: /etc/xen/xend-config.sxp: Permission denied09:28
Guest87634ubuntu vs mint09:28
varunllutz: sudo echo "(xend-http-server yes)">>/etc/xen/xend-config.sxp09:29
Troy^Guest87634: simply a matter of preference and for you, yourself to find out.09:29
IdleOne!poll | Guest8763409:29
ubottuGuest87634: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.09:29
somsipvarun: just read the link I gave you09:29
llutzvarun: echo "(xend-http-server yes)" | sudo tee -a /etc/xen/xend-config.sxp09:29
madjoeGuest87634: Ubuntu09:29
llutzvarun: or sudo sh -c "echo redirection > goes here"09:30
Guest87634more ppl say contrary..09:30
madjoeGuest87634: listen, you need to try all options to suite yourself and find ur own pros and cons09:31
andornautPidgin is stuck at "Waiting for a connection". It works if I enable networking via networkmanager, but I've disabled netman and have setup a static config in /etc/network/interfaces (this is so that it comes up prior to login - if there's a better way to do this, let me know). Pidgin works if I connect using netman, though. Any ideas?09:31
andornautWith pidgin -d (debug) everything looks okay... it gets its NAT'd addr, etc09:32
madjoeGuset87634: I tried them both, don't like Unity that much, but I got back to Ubuntu after trying Mint for a month09:32
Guest87634only because u are her :)09:33
Guest87634ah ah09:33
madjoei don't get it.09:33
Guest87634im kiddin09:33
madjoeno, I don't have to suck up to the community, I'm sharing my thoughts with you, bro.09:34
BebopStevethere is something about mint I don't like that I cannot put my finger on09:34
madjoeBebopSteve: exactly09:35
Guest70307how can i register here?09:43
DJones!register | Guest7030709:43
ubottuGuest70307: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode09:43
MikeHHow can I change a disk from GPT to MBR?09:44
ubuntu_im kiddin09:45
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marvin__hi, anyone know which version of blueGriffon should I download for 10.04 lts???09:48
C-S-BWhen will the PPA for  1.11 beta start to inclde 12.10 packages?09:50
cfhowlettmarvin__: the current version on the BlueGriffon download page will likely work for 10.0409:50
ubottuC-S-B:: Quantal Quetzal is the codename for Ubuntu 12.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+109:51
C-S-Bwoops, wrong channel. :/09:51
ActionParsnipC-S-B: 1.11 beta of what?09:51
C-S-Bifnore ActionParsnip It's too early. :P09:51
ActionParsnip11am...not massively early :)09:51
C-S-BI make it 10:50 :P09:52
ActionParsnipC-S-B: close enough :PP09:52
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ubottuthunar is a file manager for !Xfce. It is a lightweight alternative to !Nautilus and is quite similar. More info at: http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html - Want to Replace Nautilus with Thunar? See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease09:54
C-S-BActionParsnip: <=1300 == too early.09:55
C-S-BActionParsnip: Do you know of any issue with reboots just not happening? I dont have my laptop with me currently, but every reboot is failing.09:56
C-S-BActionParsnip: Actually, this better go in ubuntu+109:57
marvin__<cfhowlett>sorry, but the current version of b.Griffon(1.5.2) in d. page is for 11.10, I don't know if I can use it for 10.04???09:59
MikeHis there a quick format option for creating an ext3 volume?09:59
cfhowlettmarvin__: I suspect you can.  If it doesn't fly, try one of the earlier versions.09:59
hroianyone familiar with xfs here?10:00
hroihow to configure the su/sw parameters?10:00
ActionParsnipMikeH: not that I can see in the man page for mkfs.ext310:00
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cfhowlettmach-bar: greetings10:08
mach-bari think I found a major bug related to ipv6 in ubuntu precise pangolin, but I'm not 100% sure10:08
ubottumach-bar: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.10:08
mach-baryes ubottu, but I wanted to check with you guys first...10:09
mach-barthe thing is: kvm host cannot ping6 virtual guest connected via bridge. It says: "ping: sendmsg: Network is down"10:10
mach-barbut the network interfaces are actually connected right when I check with brctl show and the routing information is also correct10:10
mach-barbut what I'm not sure with if it's because I'm using a prefix length of 80 for my net.10:11
mach-barIs that allowed?10:11
MonkeyDustmach-bar  try #networking10:13
mach-barok MonkeyDust will do10:13
ahhughes_apt is trying its best to annoy me, I get 'E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'  and I'm too inexperienced to know what the fix is :'(10:18
josephAGI guys10:18
blazemoreahhughes_: Try "sudo apt-get -f install"10:19
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josephAGneed informations on howto configure a bizhub c360 under ubuntu 10.0410:21
* dr_willis wonders what a bizhub c360 is..10:22
ahhughes_argh... sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get install ia32-libs         == E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.    still :(10:24
dr_williswhat packages does it say are broken?10:24
ahhughes_oh this looks bad, Im not trying to install adobe reader but the underlying package  ia32-libs is the same    http://askubuntu.com/questions/166566/cannot-install-adobe-reader10:26
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josephAGanyone ever install a konica bizhub C360?10:26
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dr_willisjosephAG:  what is a bizhub c360.10:32
josephAGa bizhub C360 is multifunctional printer sorry10:32
dr_willisand what part of it is and is not working?10:32
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josephAGI succeded in installing the driver, but got issues with slow printing10:33
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josephAGevery time I try to print, he just pulled the state of the printer which take ages10:34
dr_willisprinting is handled by cupos, so have you checked the cups logs for any information/errors? whats slow about the printing. 'pulled the state' means?10:35
josephAGit check the printer every times to see it current state, I'd like to get rid of this.10:36
dr_willisbbl - got  some work to do.10:37
ahhughes_so dr_willis if I try install, ia32-libs --depends-> ia32-libs-multiarch -depends-> libcurl3:i386 but it is not going to be installed. How/Why would that dependency not install?10:38
josephAGoki thanks Anyway, I try cups log to see if there is any clues in it10:38
etzHello all10:38
MonkeyDustjosephAG  it syas here, bizhub 360 is a copier, not a printer10:39
etzWhen the new release will come out?10:39
hceciliaHello  all10:39
MonkeyDustok, multifunction, I misread10:39
geirhaahhughes_: run apt-cache policy on the packages it mentions.  apt-cache policy ia32-libs ia32-libs-multiarch libcurl3:i38610:40
ahhughes_geirha, ran.. not sure what Im looking for here.10:40
etzcan anyone please tell me when the new version will release to public?10:41
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cfhowlettetz: October 201210:41
Guest26245i've problem with mu su account's password10:41
etzThanks cfhowlett10:41
geirhaahhughes_: Where each package comes from mainly. Pastebin it10:41
Guest26245i ve forgotten what was it10:41
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ahhughes_geirha, thanks heaps... http://pastebin.com/X73Mf1ny10:43
mokhlesis there any one could help me fined a way of my TV card in?10:43
LantiziaYou know debootstrap? how does it know which packages to download from a repository?! is there some kind of metapackage it looks for?10:43
Eaglemanello when i reach my share trough using an ip address i can reach it, if i want to reach it using a name it will not connect, when i do nslookup on that name, it will show me the same ip address as going to the share trough an ip address, Why is it not working?10:44
geirhaahhughes_: More or less same as I get here10:45
geirhaahhughes_: I've heard apt's multiarch thingy can break under certain circumstances. Possibly that has happened10:46
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freddohi, is there a boot param to do a text only install? plz10:48
OpenIndianaVbox!text | freddo10:48
ubottufreddo: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode10:48
OpenIndianaVboxfreddo: ah, install, sorry10:48
OpenIndianaVboxfreddo: you can use the alternative or mini iso10:49
AdvoWorkwhats the best way to disable a user in ubuntu?10:49
Orfozneed help10:49
gordonjcpAdvoWork: change their password10:50
gordonjcp!help | Orfoz10:50
ubottuOrfoz: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:50
Walkerraga per ircwar dove si va?10:50
Orfozi ve forgotten my root password how can i change it again?10:50
gordonjcp!it | Walker10:50
ubottuWalker: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)10:50
freddothanks folks! :)10:50
gordonjcpOrfoz: you shouldn't have a root password at all10:50
gordonjcpOrfoz: you use sudo with your "normal user" password10:51
gordonjcp!root | Orfoz10:51
ubottuOrfoz: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo10:51
BebopSteveIs anyone familiar with docky configuration files?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky10:51
Orfozgordonjcp , ubottu  i did correct. thanx for help10:53
jobbei got a small problem, after updating the kernel, then i cannot run a certain program (netbeans)11:00
jobbeany idea why?11:00
Promillejobbe: any error messages?11:01
jobbePromille: nothing, it shows the "load" screen and when it disappears nothing happens11:02
jobbei tried running it from terminal, and no output11:02
ahhughes_geirha, yeah.. I got no idea what I am doing and why this is breaking :'(11:03
SilfenXif I remove the default route on the nic and then add a static route to the outside of router (IP of vpn service providr vpn gateway), how am I supposed to get the OpenVPN client to be able to connect to vpn service provider if it cant resolve the vpn server domain names used in the connection script?11:03
Promillejobbe: hm. strange. have you tried to reinstall it(i.e. with Synaptic)?11:03
ubottuFar092: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».11:04
jobbei downloaded it from their site, using the PHP IDE - couldnt get the PHP part working with apt11:04
ActionParsnipSilfenX: could add the name in /etc/hosts11:04
foo357_Hello. I have a important process running in terminal. The process is inactive, it might be that it has hanged up or that I have accidentally "paused" it with a keyboard shortcut somehow. How would I wake up the process if I did acidentally sleep it=11:04
Promillejobbe: I see. Unfortunately, I'm not that familiar with netbeans(been using Eclipse most) so I'm afraid I cant help you then.11:05
ActionParsnipfoo357_: press CTRL+Z then run: bg     an d you will get the terminal back and you can see what is happening11:05
Promillejobbe: Try #netbeans, it may be a known bug11:05
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jobbethanks Promille  :)11:06
rabbi1got installed 12.04, now trying to connect my old datacard (Reliance Netconnect, ZTE -AC2736 device) is detected but network is not activated. any suggestions ?11:06
rabbi1Also the 'options' button is disabled under network settings of the card .....11:06
ActionParsniprabbi1: can you give a pastebin of the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsusb11:06
foo357_ActionParsnip: The process would eat up almost 100% cpu usage if it was active, but it seems to be inactive. What could I do to check what has happened to the process?11:06
ActionParsnipfoo357_: there maybe something in:  dmesg11:07
ActionParsnipfoo357_: or if there is a logfile, read that11:07
sunsonI'm looking for a video editor to annotate my screen capture sessions with footnotes, lines, boxes, etc.,. What video editor would you recommend to do this?11:14
* smartboyhw will recommend Ubuntu Studio for this..11:14
SilfenXwoudl it work to replace the domain names in my openvpn connection script with the resolved IP s to avoid having the OpenVPN GUI to dns resolve them if the default gateway is removed from the physical nic? http://pastebin.com/Vx6d5AwC?11:14
cfhowlettsunson: exactly = #ubuntustudio11:14
OpenIndianaVboxsunson: not sure about screen annotations but i like openshot as a video editor11:15
sunsoncfhowlett: smartboyhw: ubuntu studio is just a collection of packages. what specific package?11:15
Alex_____Hi, with mount we can precise with offset where the part start but is it possible to set the end of the partition?11:15
smartboyhwsunson: Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu11:15
elkysmartboyhw, people tend to not want to completely reinstall, or install a heap of extra packages for one application11:15
cfhowlettsunson: openshot video editor, subtitle editor for sure11:16
sunsonelky: ditto that11:16
sunsoncfhowlett: thanks. will look at openshot!11:16
smartboyhwEr OpenShot Video Editor for that:)11:16
smartboyhwit is included in the studio packages11:16
AdvoWorkwhere does ubuntu keep its audit logs? i can't find audit.log11:16
rabbi1ActionParsnip: brb11:16
sunsonsmartboyhw: I run edubuntu and I'm a teacher... that said, I teach music (and have jackd installed) :)11:17
smartboyhwAdvoWork, audit? You mean the accounting logs?11:17
smartboyhwsunson: Oh:)11:17
cfhowlettsunson: TRYING to use edubuntu to teach ESL :)11:17
sunsoncfhowlett: ESL?11:17
cfhowlettsunson: English as a Second Language11:17
* smartboyhw finds out there IS a way to install Unity 2D on quantal...11:18
sunsoncfhowlett: ltsp-server works out of the box on edubuntu (along with a fully working basic /opt/ltsp/xxx pre-built)11:20
sunsongiven I'm on a flaky internet connection, the ltsp-build-client scripts are very fragile - they fail and ask us to try for every small error.11:21
josephAGbye guys11:21
sunsons/try/try again/11:21
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MonkeyDustsmartboyhw  just entered... you read this? http://www.muktware.com/4161/unity-2d-removed-quantal11:22
smartboyhwMonkeyDust, I did it yesterday LOL11:22
ActionParsnipsmartboyhw: its no longer an option, you will use CPU + GPU if your GPU isn't up to the job. I can recommend you switch from Gnome to another DE, XFCE is very similar to the Gnome2 stylee desktop11:23
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xyxxy hi. how to read continuously the current dynamic volume of the played music? i do not refer to volume level.11:24
ActionParsnipsmartboyhw: this channel is also only for stable releases only, quantal is supported in #ubuntu+1 until release day11:24
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marunone of the partition /dev/sda2 is missing in my server.. what might be the reason11:27
AdvoWorki've heard its not great having ssh open on a server that is accessible from the outside world. Currently we have lots of domain names(email) that point to the external ip of our router. SSH is setup on that router, port forwarding > an internal server. Any suggestions of how to improve this?11:27
blackshirtmarun, not showed with fdisk -l11:27
ActionParsnipAdvoWork: its fine to access SSH over the web, you can bolster security by using key files.11:28
shomonhow do I add someone to sudoers? just add them to the admin group in /etc/group?11:28
ActionParsnipshomon: sudo usermod -a -G sudo username11:29
owAdvoWork: So wait, as in someone can SSH into your router? Or your router just forwards SSH requests to an internal server?11:29
shomonooh never seen sudo for more than "gimme" :)11:29
AdvoWorkActionParsnip, but if someone does a scan on one of our domains, they can find sssh open right?11:29
ActionParsnipshomon: next time the user will log in they will be able to use sudo11:29
AdvoWorkow, sorry, i meant port forwarding setup to ssh to a machine on the network11:29
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shomonhmm I just ran that command but it just said "bla is not in the sudoers file..."11:30
ActionParsnipAdvoWork: yes they will see the service listening for connections11:30
ActionParsnipshomon: you need to run it as someone who can ALREADY use sudo11:31
crizisshomon, alternatively, you can add users to /etc/sudoers11:31
ActionParsnipcrizis: not necessary, plus the user will need access to sudo to edit the file so is counter intuitive11:31
sunsoncfhowlett: openshot does exactly what I want. Its _amazing_ :)11:31
crizisduh, you can't add people to groups without sude either11:32
ActionParsnipshomon: if you wish, you can boot to root recovery console and run the command there :)11:32
AdvoWorkActionParsnip, so is that not unsafe?11:32
ActionParsnipcrizis: you can if they know the pasword on the group :)11:32
coolmanhello guys11:32
owAdvoWork: If you're worried about security, 1) consider running on a different port; 2) in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, set "PasswordAuthentication no"11:32
cfhowlettsunson: openshot is a great tool and developed at an amazing pace.  Please share your success with the developers.11:32
coolmani need add time on grub11:32
marunbalckshirt: no. fdisk -l doesn't show the partition at all11:32
owAdvoWork: before doing #2, make sure you have keys set up11:32
coolmanwhere have to change11:32
ActionParsnipAdvoWork: not really no, if you disable logins with passwords and use only keys then the connections will be dropped if they don't have the right key file11:32
coolmanint /etc/default/grub and update-grub11:32
sunsoncfhowlett: cool. will do :)11:33
OpenIndianaVbox!yay | sunson11:33
coolmanor in another places11:33
ubottusunson: Glad you made it! :-)11:33
ahhughes_Im || close to uninstalled ubuntu and going back to windows.... been nuthin but trouble :'(11:33
cfhowlettsunson: also, tutorials and commentary is always welcome on the ubuntustudio channel and the multimedia ubuntu forums11:33
cfhowlettsunson: should you feel so inclined.  Thanks.11:33
shomonah so ActionParsnip I should have run that command as my own user, not as root?11:33
owyou do this via running "ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 4096" on the /client/ machine - the one you want to connect /with/11:33
shomonas root it said it worked but then didn't but as myself it directly "reported the incident"11:33
owuse the default locations for everything, and then do "ssh-copy-id yourlogin@yourmachine"11:34
ActionParsnipshomon: any user whom can run admin tasks needs to run the command as it changes the access of the user, users cannot add themselves to groups (unless there is a group password and the user has been given the password)11:34
ActionParsnipshomon: so root or any other user in the sudo group can do i11:34
owthis creates a special kind of authorization between your machine and the SSHD server, and will avoid the use of passwords altogether once set up11:34
shomonI did it as root.. but it still gave me the error that I'm not in sudoers as the user I meant to add to sudoers11:34
ActionParsnipshomon: if you run:  whoami   does it say 'root'?11:35
shomonok will do it again.. this time via adding another entry to (/etc/sudoers11:35
zykotick9shomon: "sudo" or "sudoers" group? -- FYI it's sudo11:35
ActionParsnipshomon: weird11:35
marvin__datemi il comando per favore per installare questa roba qua tramite terminale,,,gia scaricata;     BlueGriffon-1.4.1-Linux-x86_64.tar.bz211:36
ubottumarvin__:: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.11:36
shomonah now by adding direct to /etc/sudoers it worked11:36
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shomonmarvin__, vai nel canale in italiano11:36
shomonsará ubuntu-it immagino11:36
zykotick9shomon: also FYI you need to log out - then back in.  to see group changes!11:36
cfhowlettshomon: thanks.  es and look alike to me11:37
ActionParsnipmarvin__: use the getdeb ppa11:37
shomonoh yeah I'd forgotten, but adding to the group seems to have worked now11:37
ActionParsnipmarvin__: wget http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; rm ./getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get insatll bluegriffon11:38
marvin__<cfhowlett>sorry :-))))  ....I thought to bee in ubuntu-it11:38
ActionParsnipmarvin__: ^ easy peasy11:38
marvin__<ActionParsnip>tnx ;-)11:38
ActionParsnipmarvin__: getdeb has it but you need to add their PPA (using the deb file)11:38
F__hey guys is there a way to install Avast! on ubuntu 12.04?11:39
OpenIndianaVbox!av | F__11:40
ubottuF__: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus11:40
F__yeah i share files with 6 other computers running windows so i really need to make sure i dont infect them11:41
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ActionParsnipF__: use the repos11:41
ActionParsnip!find avast11:42
ubottuFile avast found in doc-linux-nonfree-html, extremetuxracer-data, faumachine-data, openvas-plugins-dfsg, qt4-doc11:42
ActionParsnipF__: http://www.avast.com/linux-home-edition#tab411:42
OerHeksOn their own forum > http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=91145.011:43
xyxxy hi. how to read continuously the current dynamic volume of the played music? i do not refer to volume level.11:45
OpenIndianaVboxxyxxy: not really a ubuntu question11:46
kodo_ragazzi salve a tutti11:46
kodo_ho provato ad installare i flash plugins11:47
OpenIndianaVbox!it | kodo_11:47
ubottukodo_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)11:47
shomonxyxxy, maybe via sox?11:48
kodo_ma al momento di vedere un filmato ad esempio su youtube il browser nel caso di chrome mi dice che non puo' caricare iplugin (che ho verificato essere presenti) e nel caso di Firefox semplicemente non si apre la finestra del video11:48
shomonalso vlc does normalizing of all levels played.. not sure if that's what you're after11:48
shomonkodo_, no te pol parlar par italian qua. e nianca per triestin..11:48
OpenIndianaVboxkodo_: /join #ubuntu-it11:48
WernlqHi Friends!11:49
Wernlqhelp plz11:49
twitchie!ask | Wernlq11:49
ubottuWernlq: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:49
smartboyhwWernlq, what help do you want/11:49
blackshirtwerniq,what is the problem?11:49
WernlqHow download video in Tor Browser?11:49
shomonWernlq, don't. you should use i2p or something geared for high bandwidth use for private downloads on alternate networks IMO11:50
WernlqI need grub link and download videos from sites11:50
shomonunless you are making use of tor in a civil conflict/journalism or human rights situation, leave the bandwidth to those who need it11:50
WernlqI need to safely download videos from the Internet11:52
WernlqAny use Tor Browser?11:53
shomonfind them then download via https?11:53
Wernlqhow download videos from youtube?11:53
Wernlqin Tor Browser11:54
pankaj_Wernlq, there are tons of website which can help u11:54
Wernlqcan u gice link plz?11:54
shomonhttps://www.eff.org/pages/tor-and-https this is good for finding out who sees what when using tor and ssl11:55
BoreeasTor Browser is just firefox with some modification, right? Just install some addon for firefox which does that11:55
shomonyes. the package is called vidalia, and comes with an adapted firefox and pidgin client11:55
shomonat least I think setting up tor on ubuntu is via "apt-get install vidalia tor"11:55
ubottuTor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl11:55
ubottufreenode blocks connections from Tor users on its regular servers. Users registered with nickserv can connect to freenode's Tor hidden service instead; see http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor for instructions. For help, ask in #freenode.11:56
Wernlqand why freenode ban tor's IPs?11:57
OpenIndianaVboxWernlq: ask in #freenode11:57
shomonbecause people use them for trolling11:58
WernlqOpenIndiana i think this project is death11:58
OpenIndianaVboxWernlq: this channel just deals with ubuntu support11:59
WernlqGoogle banned IP of Tor because they want see real IP of users they make statistics11:59
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Wernlqon freenode all sleeping12:01
WernlqWhy developing in Linux?12:01
WernlqWho professional developer Linux programms?12:01
WernlqAny here?12:01
twitchie!enter | Wernlq12:01
ubottuWernlq: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!12:01
shomonask in ##linux12:01
OpenIndianaVboxWernlq: ask in ##linux12:01
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ActionParsnipWernlq: then use a different search engine...surel12:05
Samara_my husband is gay but I love him12:05
ActionParsnip!ot | Samara_12:06
ubottuSamara_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:06
cfhowlettSamara_: wrong channel12:06
Samara_my husband will learn ubuntu someday...12:06
ActionParsnip!ops | Samara_12:06
ubottuSamara_: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U!12:06
Samara_my husband is the brazilian or arabic bill gates12:06
* cfhowlett Thinks: full moon tonight?12:08
* smartboyhw is having extremely bad weather here12:09
bonnohello.. i use 11.04 and i want to upgrade to 12.04..but when i go to the update manager the only option is 11.10...why 12.04 isnt there?12:09
xyxxy hi. how to read continuously the current dynamic volume of the played music? i do not refer to volume level.12:09
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smartboyhwbonno: You can't update directly from 11.04 to 12.0412:09
ActionParsnipbonno: you must upgrade to the next release only as you are not on LTS12:09
smartboyhwYou need to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 then 12.0412:10
ActionParsnipbonno: you cannot leapfrog release12:10
cfhowlettbonno: in others words, clean install 12.0412:10
kodo_ragazzi nonostante abbia installato i plugin di flash player chrome e firefox non riescono a caricarli12:10
ActionParsnipbonno: i'd clean install. Gets the OS as it is intended rather than the old fluff from the old install :)12:10
smartboyhwkodo_: Go to #ubuntu-it for Italian...12:10
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bonnook..but i just dont want to to clean install .. :P  can i upgrade to 11.10 and then 12.04 ?12:12
cfhowlettbonno: you can.12:12
bonnothanks.. hope nothing goes wrong12:13
Sidewinder1bonno, Just back up, first.12:14
* skraito said hi all12:14
Sidewinder1Music, pics, data, etc.12:15
dandediliaHello i have a big Problem: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my Samsung N145 Plus Netbook: Updates lead today is no longer the brightness setting works.  Not with the keys and not even in the brightness settings ...12:15
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ActionParsnipdandedilia: this is very common12:17
ActionParsnipdandedilia: tried the boot option: acpi_backlight=vendor12:18
dandediliaokay one moment please...12:18
bonnoback-up why?   if its fails i just do clean install then :P12:19
* smartboyhw doesn't backup data ever lol12:19
ActionParsnipsmartboyhw: you'll see12:21
jilt007i want to kill termainl. What name should be it in top , i am confused12:21
ActionParsnipjilt007: gnome-terminal12:21
jilt007ActionParsnip: Thanks !12:21
ActionParsnipjilt007: or press ALT+F2 and run: xkill    then click the terminal12:21
jilt007ActionParsnip:  ok i got it!12:22
Kartagishow do I check whether my host is SNMP-enabled?12:24
jilt007ActionParsnip: Also one more question  i  have two system and i have  iptables rules set in one of them for ssh to reject connection, from my second system i want to access ssh how to do that. I  just want to  bypass . How to do that any hint12:24
dandediliaActionParsnip,  Where do I set this to the acpi_backlight ...12:25
ActionParsnipdandedilia: pastie.org/479070212:25
jilt007ActionParsnip: Any idea>12:26
ActionParsnipjilt007: delete the iptables rule12:26
AdvoWorkwhats the quickest way to search for sym-links in /etc? based on the name test? its taking *ages*, im trying grep -r test *12:27
jilt007ActionParsnip: i just not want to physical acces the system12:27
jilt007ActionParsnip: I want to do ssh from my second system12:27
g00denoughjilt007: which won't work since you reject ssh in iptables...12:27
jilt007g00denough: Any Way to  bypass it12:28
shad0wfaxjilt007: iptables -A INPUT -s ! -p tcp -m multiport 80,443 -j DROP12:28
_rubenAdvoWork: find /etc/ -type l12:28
g00denoughjilt007: no, iptables would be pointless if you easily could circumvent it12:28
vvpalinif there was a way to bypass a iptables rule jilt007 it wouldnt be a very good rule would it ?12:28
jilt007g00denough: Ok12:29
ActionParsnipAdvoWork: http://superuser.com/questions/71163/how-to-find-all-soft-links-symbolic-links-in-current-directory12:29
jilt007g00denough: Thanks!12:29
jilt007shad0wfax: Thanks!12:29
shad0wfaxjilt007: You're welcome!12:29
vvpalinthat being said there might be ways but it wont be easy and its beyond my limited knowledge of iptables12:30
m3powHello ! Is it possible to broadcast messages from an ubuntu server to the client's browser ?12:31
BebopStevem3pow Can you be more specific?  Because there's a lot of different ways- cgi php javascript etc etc etc12:32
Night-hacksI have windows in my virtual box with http server, can i connect from Ubuntu to it ?12:32
Danno_are there any good on screen keyboards that work at the login screen? ive tried onboard but it doesnt work at login and it doesnt seem to have a lot of non alphabet characters12:33
ActionParsnipNight-hacks: bridge the LAN and you can access it like a new system on the LAN12:33
m3powBebopSteve, in a MAN network, i want to broadcast a message to those that have debts, by sending a message in their browser at a certain time12:34
Night-hacksshould i google : "LAN bridging" ?!12:34
dandediliaActionParsnip,  THX works perfect12:34
g00denoughNight-hacks: just set network to "bridged" in the vbox setup12:34
leblebi_21Hi! :)12:35
ActionParsnipdandedilia: sweet, known issue. Real pain12:36
dandediliaActionParsnip,  Had the problem now for the first time ... I know modest in future12:37
leblebi_21is there somebody who use UCK-Ubuntu Customization Kit here? i need to ask if i can use gui based programs on the step which open a terminal by UCK.12:37
AdvoWorkam i right in thinking, sudo update-rc.d whatever disable will change the symbolic link from S to K ? ie disable the whatever on boot? and to revert, enable?12:38
Danno_are there any good on screen keyboards that work at the login screen? ive tried onboard but it doesnt work at login and it doesnt seem to have a lot of non alphabet characters12:39
AdvoWorkactually, stop instead of disable12:39
dandediliaGoodbye guys ;) see us by the next problems with ubuntu ;D12:40
m3powany thoughts on the broadcast message thing ?12:41
OpenIndianaVboxm3pow: yeah, you need to thingy the whatchamacallit12:42
leblebi_21Can i use gui based programs on the step which UbuntuCustimozationKit open a terminal?12:43
m3powOpenIndianaVbox can youplease be more specific ?12:44
OpenIndianaVboxm3pow: that was also my point to you12:44
BluesKajHIyas all12:44
MonkeyDust leblebi_21 please rephrase12:44
BebopStevem3pow Honestly more context is needed.  Are you talking about a -web- browser?  If not, are all clients using ubuntu?12:44
NickeehI'd like to not see any more screens of "blah blah has close unexpectedly"12:44
NickeehIs that a tweak somewhere?12:45
m3pownot all clients use ubuntu, of course not !12:45
NickeehIt's hard to google.12:45
Stanley00Nickeeh: it's called apport service ;)12:45
m3powor not necesarely into the browser, but maybe like a pop-up to notice them that they have to pay12:45
ActionParsnipNickeeh: try a different search engine then....12:45
BebopStevem3pow Aren't there privacy laws against that12:46
m3powi dunno BebopSteve, i am also helping a friend. He knows about these privacy things12:46
m3powthat's why i don't have much details12:47
leblebi_21MonkeyDust: Can i use all command (gui apps) on the step: "You can still select the Run Console Application option to launch a special terminal window. This terminal window represents the live CD environment" http://www.howtogeek.com/109736/how-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-or-usb/12:48
NickeehStanley00: awesome. You think if I flip enabled=0 in it's conf file my computer will misbehave?12:48
BebopStevem3pow Well if it isn't a web browser they're communicating with your server in, and you don't own the pc your client is using, you're out of luck as far as I know12:48
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Stanley00Nickeeh: I don't think so. I have that disable too :D12:49
NickeehStanley00: great! Cheers :)12:49
MonkeyDustleblebi_21  haven't tried12:49
m3powok BebopSteve, thanks for helping12:49
rolling2k42820870920665940215640Casey Weiss3704 Promontory StreetSan DiegoCAUNITED STATES9210912:50
BebopStevethe heck?12:50
paatahi all12:50
rolling2k4342570012139086 05/15 061 Jeffrey Roiland 1818 Shilhon Rd Duluth MN 55804 United States12:50
g00denough!ops | rolling2k spams again12:50
ubotturolling2k spams again: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U!12:50
BebopStevewhy randomly spurt off people's financial info12:51
BebopSteveI mean, if ya got it, one would assume you keep your illegal sources to yourself12:52
g00denoughBebopSteve: who cares about spammers intentions12:52
BebopStevewell I smell entrapment12:53
BebopStevebut anyone dumb enough would deserve it I guess12:53
smartboyhwActionParsnip, what do you mean by "You'll see"?12:53
jilt007I am through irssi , how to switch to differnt channels in  it?12:54
dr_willisyou mean join other channels or change windows in irssi?12:55
g00denoughjilt007: /j #channel, switch with esc+window-number12:55
platschior /win #12:55
dr_willisalt-# may work also12:55
BluesKajwhy would spmeone who's dumb as you put it deserve to be punshed for being so , BebopSteve ?12:56
jilt007g00denough: Thanks alot!12:57
ActionParsnipsmartboyhw: you'll get some situation where your data integrity is in jeapordy and you'll regret not having a backup12:57
GOMIi have a question , i get an exclamation mark telling me about "update information is outdated" but when i click it it only says vlc  reposetories fail ??12:57
GOMIwhat does that mean12:57
ActionParsnipGOMI: run:  sudo apt-get udpate     is it smooth?12:57
AdvoWorkhow would i go about rename all symbolic links, im trying to change from S to K. I can see I can do sudo update-rc.d whatever stop, but it needs an NN, but i dont know this12:57
smartboyhwActionParsnip, ;012:57
dr_willisyou using a vlc ppa   GOMI ?12:57
BebopSteveBluesKaj If they use said leaked financial data spammed just now to say, purchase a new TV online, I feel they would deserve the cops barging down their door12:58
GOMIActionParsnip,  yes smooth12:58
GOMIdr_willis,  yes i think so12:58
ActionParsnipGOMI: is the exclamation gone now?12:58
GOMIActionParsnip,  no , at the end i get some errors about vlc12:59
g00denoughAdvoWork: better to use sysv-rc-conf with upstart. NN are the runlevels (ubuntu is not using those) you want to change12:59
GOMIActionParsnip, W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/stable-daily/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found12:59
GOMIi think i have to delete them right ?12:59
dr_willisGOMI:  the ppa may be dead12:59
ActionParsnipGOMI: http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/stable-daily/ubuntu/dists/   PPA doesn't support Natty12:59
ActionParsnipGOMI: that PPA only supports Oneiric, Precise and Quantal13:00
ulkeshGOMI: if you go to http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/stable-daily/ubuntu/dists/ in a web browser, you'll not see natty there13:00
dr_willisdo you really need the daily build of vlc?13:00
rolling2kim back13:00
GOMIActionParsnip, okey13:00
AdvoWorkg00denough, ok, ill look into that. why better?13:01
ActionParsnipGOMI: hence the exclamation mark. You do realise that Natty is EOL at the end of next month? I suggest you upgrade to a newer release soon13:01
g00denoughAdvoWork: it works better with the upstart-mechanisms13:01
ActionParsnipdr_willis: later versions are better by default ;)13:01
BebopSteveproxy kiddie13:02
GOMIActionParsnip,  yes i know  i will , just afraid that something will go wrong during upgrade -__-!)13:02
AdvoWorkg00denough, my only concern is, i'd need to install it, and this server is pretty fragile at the moment13:02
ActionParsnipGOMI: then clean install Precise and you will have a release supported til 201713:02
dr_willisbeen having some weird issues in vlc lately where, sound never comes back is i pause/restart a video13:02
moneygood morning america13:03
moneyfull of nigger13:03
FloodBot1money: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:03
g00denoughAdvoWork: doesn't "sudo update-rc.d service disable" work for you? afaik runlevels (NN) are optional13:04
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QuantumQrackAnybody have any recommendations for ubuntu 64 bit vs. 32 bit running from flash drive?13:13
jilt007HOw to see all system connected in my network using arp command13:14
AdvoWorkg00denough, i try that, it just shows usage, ie it doesn't accept disable. but this is an old system though :S13:15
ActionParsnipjilt007: you can use: smbtree13:21
ActionParsnipQuantumQrack: depends on RAM amount and what you are using the OS for really13:21
ActionParsnipQuantumQrack: the fact it's on a flash drive isn't really a factor13:21
jilt007ActionParsnip: Thanks a lot!13:21
ActionParsnipjilt007: or nmap13:22
QuantumQrackActionParsnip, I want to switch to using Linux instead of Windows.  But I want to try it out first.  I installed a bootable version on my flash drive, 64bit, but it didnt seem to work.  I have an Intel i7 processor, 6 gigs of ram, and SSD, some 1 terabyte hard drives, etc.13:23
jilt007ActionParsnip:  I am familiar with nmap, but how to use smbtree , never heared about this13:23
ActionParsnipjilt007: just run it, then type your user password13:23
jilt007ActionParsnip: i did that but nothing happend13:24
ActionParsnipjilt007: its to show samba shares but it will show the systems even if they are not sharing stuff13:24
ActionParsnipQuantumQrack: ok and what is the OS used for?13:24
jilt007ActionParsnip: Asked for password but not showed the shared  or the sytem13:24
ActionParsnipjilt007: thought it'd show the systems on the LAN. oh well13:25
QuantumQrackActionParsnip--browsing the internet, games ported for linux, chatting on irc, media intensive tasks such as watching movies, tv shows, etc.13:25
ActionParsnipQuantumQrack: you could use 32bit for that, nothing too intensive there. 64bit will let the OS see your RAM as one block, 32bit with PAE will use it all but each process will have a maximum RAM of 3.2Gb.13:26
QuantumQrackYeah, I would rather use 64 bit, unless it isnt a very good experience...13:27
QuantumQrackI tried to run 64 bit from the flash drive, but it seemed to get into an endless loop13:27
ActionParsnipQuantumQrack: i'll be the same as the 32bit...13:28
alecbI just tried to re-compile kernel wifi drivers as outlined here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/95360/how-to-get-a-stable-wlan-connection-with-a-lenovo-x121e, how would I check if what I did actually worked or not? (ie, if I'm using the freshly compiled drivers or not)13:28
ActionParsnipQuantumQrack: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?13:28
QuantumQrackno, I just followed the instructions here:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows13:28
ActionParsnipQuantumQrack: ahh did the app download the ISO for you?13:29
QuantumQrackNo, I downloaded it separately.13:29
ActionParsnipQuantumQrack: did you MD5 test it?13:30
QuantumQrackNo, how do I do that?13:30
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows13:31
Sidewinder1!hashes | QuantumQrack13:31
ubottuQuantumQrack: See http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/12.04/MD5SUMS for the md5sums of the latest Ubuntu release13:31
retrorexI use winxp and ubuntu winxp is my boot partition . I wan't to format boot partition. Will I be able to login to ubuntu13:33
AdvoWorkg00denough, any further ideas?13:35
QuantumQrackhrmm, MD5 checksums are different13:35
smartboyhwQuantumQrack, make sure you check the right one, if not redownload sorry13:36
retrorexdoes grub reside in boot partition13:36
QuantumQrackyeah, I guess I can redownload.  fast connection, shouldnt take too long13:36
ActionParsnipretrorex: you may need to reinstate grub using liveCD13:36
Sidewinder1QuantumQrack, Bad ISO, probably; redownload, then md5sum the new ISO to be certain.13:37
ActionParsnipQuantumQrack: thats why you are getting the issue and is why MD5 testing exists13:37
retrorexsad thing my cd drive not working13:37
ActionParsnipQuantumQrack: use torrents for extra checks on the data. Can help13:37
QuantumQrackIm just going to download from Ubuntu.com again.  or do you recommend another site?13:37
g00denoughAdvoWork: "shows usage"? you misformed the command then13:38
ActionParsnipQuantumQrack: the site is irrelevant, as long as the hashes match its fine13:38
AdvoWorkg00denough, im wondering if this old version of ubuntu doesnt allow "disable" for update-rc.d ?13:38
alix_hi all13:38
Sidewinder1QuantumQrack, WADR to ActionParsnip, even after using torrents (which contain auto error checking), still, md5sum the ISO..13:38
g00denoughAdvoWork: check "man update-rc.d" but i doubt it13:38
alix_do anyone know a django channel?13:38
ActionParsnipalix_: try #django13:39
AdvoWorkg00denough, man shows that the options are defaults/stop/start13:39
g00denoughAdvoWork: try "sudo update-rc.d <service> stop 2 3 4 5 ."13:41
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AdvoWorkg00denough, it runs, but says "System startup links for ... already exist. I assume a force would be needed,ie -f ?13:42
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akiscan any one help me to clear my dashboard and specialy 'files and folders' section because some of the /dir they don't exist anymore on my hd. i tried to do a clearness using  'activity log manager' but the /dirs are still there. any idea?13:45
g00denoughAdvoWork: i guess it should have been "sudo update-rc.d <service> -f remove && sudo update-rc.d <service> stop 2 3 4 5 ."13:45
ActionParsnipakis: use the icon that has the yellow arrow going round in a circle under dash13:45
akisdo you mean activity log manager? i installed and i used it already, but nothing happened cleaning all the history.13:47
ActionParsnipakis: yeah you can clean those there as well as tell the logging which apps to ignore too :)13:47
AdvoWorkg00denough, whats that going to remove though, isn't thatjust the same as doing the remove in the first place?13:48
g00denoughAdvoWork: "remove" removes the links but won't create Kxx links again13:49
AdvoWorkg00denough, but what do I do when i need to turn these back on again?13:49
g00denoughAdvoWork: this would disable a service until the next update of the package, which would recreate the start-links13:49
g00denoughAdvoWork: thats why i suggested sysv-rc-conf, which handles this correct (afaik)13:50
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g00denoughAdvoWork: to turn them on, you just remove them again, and run update-rc.d defaults13:52
akisyep but why the folders 'pictures', 'music' 'downolad' are still there although i deleted form my hd and i asked from 'activity log manager' to clear everything form my dashboard?13:53
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AdvoWorkg00denough, ill try13:55
genii-aroundakis: If a directory is specified in /home/your-username/.config/user-dirs.dirs it gets created again whether you deleted it or not13:55
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akisyea you have right but those dirs they are not on my hd any more. do i have to edit user-dirs.dirs?13:56
pavelzHi, I am working with Macs most of the day and have ubuntu lappie at home. I wonder if there is any way to transfer keyboard layouts from Mac to Ubuntu13:57
genii-aroundakis: Yes, if you comment out the ones you do not want the system to re-make every boot/login then they will be gone for good.13:57
NdushiMy laptop lost power and when I try to start it up again it just boots to a BusyBox-terminal, so I tried to boot from my live-USB stick and it says the harddrive's file system is "Unknown". I tried to reformat it and it wouldn't work… "cannot create file system fsync input/output-error"13:59
amir__asl plz?14:00
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bazhangamir__, wrong network for that14:00
bazhangGuest86326, not here14:00
akisok thanks. i'll try it and i'll report.14:00
Guest86326me f 22 :))14:01
bazhangGuest63753, stop that , its offtopic here14:01
genii-aroundGuest86326: This channel is to help people with their Ubuntu operating system.14:02
AdvoWorkI'm doing: find /etc/ -type l | grep whatever to find sym-links, can i list at the same time where those links are linked to?14:02
g00denoughAdvoWork: ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*servicename14:02
zykotick9g00denough: i doubt update-rc.d should be used on ubuntu, as ubuntu uses upstart...  just sayin'14:04
AdvoWorkg00denough, thanks14:04
g00denoughzykotick9: "AdvoWork: thats why i suggested sysv-rc-conf, which handles this correct (afaik)  "       just saying ;)14:04
g00denoughAdvoWork: they usually all link to /etc/init.d/servicename14:05
elfenixtorresamir__: 12.04, thus 5months, no gender, on your computer14:05
K4kHey, I just rebooted my system and I'm getting "running in low graphics mode" now and I can't control anything with the laptops mouse and keyboard. I'm having to use a USB keyboard right now. I don't see anything odd in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Anywhere else I might look?14:06
AdvoWorkg00denough, they do yeah, theres a few repeated ones though, ie.  /etc/rc2.d/S01whatever  /etc/rc2.d/S99whatever   /etc/rc3.d/K01whatever   /etc/rc3.d/S99whatever14:06
g00denoughAdvoWork: i'd remove all those links manually and create new one from scratch14:07
AdvoWorkg00denough, why, just to make it tidier?14:08
g00denoughAdvoWork: to have a "clean base"14:08
ludwig_hi folks... i need to increase the stack size for apache (mpm_prefork) any ideas?14:09
AdvoWorkwont the defaults bit fix all that though, if i remove them all?14:09
ActionParsnipludwig_: have you asked in the apache channel too?14:09
ludwig_@ActionParsnip: not yet, but good idea14:09
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zykotick9g00denough: /etc/init.d is SYSV - NOT upstart!  /etc/init/ is upstart.14:10
g00denoughAdvoWork: it should, but didnt you want to disable the service?14:10
pseudonymousI'm trying to install texlive to write a report for tomorrow, but I get a rather cryptic "E: unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"14:10
g00denoughzykotick9: yes, but sysv-rc-conf handles old sysv-links in a upstart-pleasant way (in opposite to updae-rc.d)14:11
ActionParsnippseudonymous: try:  sudo apt-get -f install14:11
parlonHi, when I run netstat, I see 10's of connections like "tcp        0      0 localhost:empowerid         localhost:33441             TIME_WAIT", there is no user called empowerid. Any idea what is happening?14:11
AdvoWorkg00denough, yeah disable and re enable at a later stage, but if i remove(it will clean them out) then stop to disable, then remove, then default(or start instead?)14:11
pseudonymousActionParsnip: I did, along with "apt-get clean; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade".. Specifically "apt-get install -f" just informs me of some packages which are installed but no longer needed, it doesn't seem to *do* anything14:12
g00denoughAdvoWork: that should work14:13
ActionParsnippseudonymous: you can clean up with:  sudo apt-get --purge autoremove14:13
pseudonymousActionParsnip: is it strictly needed to clean away the unused packages, though ?14:13
ActionParsnippseudonymous: its handy, saves unecessary updates too14:14
pseudonymousAlthough on a laptop, I have some 300+ GB and the main reason why I run Ubuntu is to have a stable base. I have no use for a few extra megs or anything. What I'm getting at is, is there the slightest chance that these packages could have something else break ?14:15
QuantumQrackSo I have downloaded this again:  ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso and the MD5 checksums still do not match up.  What is going on?14:17
ActionParsnippseudonymous: you'll need to satisfy package dependencies, if the deps are held due to other deps being held then you will need to wait14:17
ebisinephello rum???14:17
ActionParsnipQuantumQrack: what hash do you get14:18
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ActionParsnipQuantumQrack: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/MD5SUMS    looks fine, desktop amd64....14:18
pseudonymousActionParsnip: well that's what I don't get, I was under the impression that once I've done a full system update (apt-get update && apt-get upgrade) I should be able to install whatever package in the repo that I wanted. Surely texlive isn't broken in the repos as in half the packages are updated.. And if not(which I assume) what do you mean ?14:19
olga__доброго времени суток14:20
ActionParsnippseudonymous: are there bugs reported?14:20
bazhangolga__, english here only14:20
bazhangolga__, russian in #ubuntu-ru14:20
ActionParsnipQuantumQrack: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes  has that hash, looks good14:20
QuantumQrackActionParsnip, I guess I am comparing it to the wrong hash.14:21
pseudonymousActionParsnip: I'd have no clue where to start looking for that14:21
olga__need russ ubunta chanel help plise14:21
QuantumQrackIll try to get the flash drive to work again I guess.14:21
ActionParsnip!bug | pseudonymous14:21
ubottupseudonymous: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.14:21
bazhangolga__, /join #ubuntu-ru   <------ NO spaces14:21
olga__thank you14:22
NdushiMy laptop lost power and when I try to start it up again it just boots to a BusyBox-terminal, so I tried to boot from my live-USB stick and it says the harddrive's file system is "Unknown". I tried to reformat it and it wouldn't work… "cannot create file system fsync input/output-error"14:23
aguitelis there anyway to install 8.04 in old laptop?14:25
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MonkeyDustaguitel  8.04 is no longer supported14:26
MonkeyDustor it should be server14:26
OerHeksaguitel, sure, you can download the cd, and maybe you can have some updates too =, with 'old-releases' >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Requirements14:27
aguitelMonkeyDust, i know ,but i need some old distro to support old hardware14:27
pseudonymousActionParsnip: probably some damned ppa screwing it all up. I should've known that there's no free lunch14:27
NdushiAnyone have an idea to solve my problem?14:27
MonkeyDustaguitel  i'm sure 12.04 supports your hardware14:27
OerHeksNdushi, no, sounds like a hardware problem14:28
aguiteli return in 2 hours ,thanks14:28
EvdbHey guys! I need some help, again14:30
pseudonymousOk - is there a way to see WHICH packages it thinks I'm holding back and which are choking a certain install so I don't go willy nilly nuking java, wine, gimp 2.8 etc just to make apt happy again ?14:30
insomniaSalthi all14:32
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EvdbI finally managed to run Ubuntu live from a bootable USB. It seemed like I installed Ubuntu although at the end of the installer i got a problem that GRUB wasn't able to install in the root. When I now try to boot into Ubuntu using rEFIt it give the error 'missing software'. Anyone can help?14:32
insomniaSaltso I've been very very stupid and accidentally tried to mount a partition onto itself in /etc/fstab14:32
insomniaSaltany way to recover?14:33
anxelsomeone helps me to install fmod in ubuntu please?14:33
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Evdbbekks: ya here? :P14:33
bazhanganxel, what is fmod14:33
anxelits a sound library14:34
entity999bazhang; anxel have Ubuntu, but don't have fmod in repos14:34
MonkeyDustfound: pdfmod14:34
bazhanganxel, to achieve what14:34
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anxelcorrect, i dont have fmod in repos14:34
entity999bazhang; to have game working14:34
EvdbCome on anyone I need this really bad14:35
MonkeyDust!info refit14:39
ubotturefit (source: refit): graphical boot menu for ia32 and x64 EFI systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.14-2ubuntu1 (precise), package size 445 kB, installed size 1172 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; kfreebsd-amd64)14:39
EvdbPlease someone :(14:40
bazhang!helpme | Evdb14:40
ubottuEvdb: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude14:40
dr_willisplease what?14:40
MonkeyDustEvdb  as soon as someone enters who can help, s/he most probably will14:40
EvdbI'm sorry but I have been trying from yesterday morning to get this to work  need it to get working for school14:41
dr_willisnever used refit. so no ides14:41
EvdbAre there refit alternatives for mac?14:41
oldskool_Hey I am trying to put my vm image on a seperate hd .. how to do point to another hard drive?  I use virt-manager14:42
MonkeyDustoh, mac14:42
pseudonymousOk, I have a *really* central package overwritten by a ppa which I've already removed as it holds up some upgrades. If I try to force the official precise pkg from synaptic it gives me a mile long list of packages it'll nuke. I don't want that, why the heck can't it see that there's no way these packages can't stay on the system ?14:42
akisi am trying to run activity-log-manager through terminal because i cannot run it click in on it and i amgetting the followin message http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224612/. why? previously it run well.14:42
* insomniaSalt recovered his partitions, thanks and bye.14:42
pseudonymous(and yes, the majority of the packages it wants to remove are not related to that ppa in the SLIGHTEST, but are other, official precise, packages..)14:42
snwhpseudonymous, could you be more specific?14:43
bazhangpseudonymous, tried ppa-purge yet?14:44
bazhang!ppa-purge | pseudonymous14:44
ubottupseudonymous: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html14:44
pseudonymoussnwh: as in, I have a zlib1g package from a ppa called izx-bleeding-precise and if I try to (within synaptic) force that package back to the official ubuntu precise version, it seriously suggests removing **xorg** what kind of.. BLEEPING retarded suggestion is that ?14:44
snwhpseudonymous, you could trying installing ppa-purge and using that from the terminal.14:45
pseudonymousbazhang: I removed the ppa itself using a gui(I'm lazy like that) called YPPA. Seems like it's gone though the packages it's overwritten are still there14:45
OerHekspseudonymous, use ppa-purge.14:47
OerHekspseudonymous, if it still messes up your system, contact the owner of the ppa.14:48
pseudonymousOerHeks: (excuse my growing frustration) I just tried, but "ppa-purge izx-bleeding-precise" ends up showing the help message displayed when you muck up a command instructing me to type exactly what I did( as far as I can see).. tried the -p switch too, but no mas14:48
jribpseudonymous: did you try with the "ppa:" part?14:49
OerHekspseudonymous, no need for an option,  sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>14:49
pseudonymous"ppa-purge ppa:izx-bleeding-precise" does not work14:50
_XMENDEShy guys.. i need help. You know what program use to be movies server to a WDtv Live?14:50
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jribpseudonymous: 1) you should pastebin exact error/output 2) are you sure that's the right name of the ppa?14:51
mach-barfind /etc/ -type l -ls14:51
mach-baroh shit, that was long time ago...14:51
jrib!helpme | _XMENDES14:52
ubottu_XMENDES: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude14:52
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/14:52
_XMENDESYou know what program use to be movies server to a WDtv Live?14:52
jrib_XMENDES: please wait a reasonable time before repeating...14:52
jrib_XMENDES: I have no idea what WDtv Live is14:53
_XMENDESso sorry14:53
captine_XMENDES, is WDtv a dlna compliant thing?14:53
oldskool_ubottu: please help me14:53
ubottuoldskool_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:53
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oldskool_ubottu: can you help me14:53
ubottuoldskool_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:53
_XMENDESwdtv is like appletv our boxe14:53
Priceyoldskool_: I think you might be able to use symlinks to achieve this. I'm pretty sure virt-manager likes all of its images in one place... have you googled?14:54
oldskool_Pricey: seriously?14:54
Priceyoldskool_: Oh, you just need to add a new storage pool... http://virt-manager.org/page/StorageManagement14:54
_XMENDESits a media center..14:55
oldskool_Pricey: I want to avoid that because then I am running the vm server and the vm images on the same drive and it bottle necks it...14:55
oldskool_Pricey: Thank you sec14:55
pseudonymousWell, figures.. I (curtesy of YPPA) mucked about enough to understand I had to type ppa:izx/bleeding. And ppa-purge also feels like nuking my system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224635/14:56
_XMENDESi want put my movies on a ubuntu folder and open with WDTV.14:56
jribpseudonymous: you might try again with the ppa in question enabled14:57
pseudonymousAside from me being dumb enough to replace an apparently really really important package (which is stupid - I know!).. What sort of retarded system suggests nuking some 200 packages where almost ALL of them should be able to continue existing as they are stock ubuntu packages and therefore shouldn't REQUIRE some ppa version ?14:57
MonkeyDustmental note to self: prejudice toward PPAs confirmed14:57
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Devinblackshirt: your still here?14:58
jribpseudonymous: downgrading isn't actually supported14:58
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pseudonymousjrib: actually, I did go ahead and re-add the ppa because I was thinking the same thing: ppa-purge probably expected the ppa to be present.14:58
captine_XMENDES, the website says it can connect to network drives.  Couldnt you setup a share?14:58
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JoseAntonioany body help me?14:59
jribpseudonymous: my guess is that ppa purge and multiarch don't play nice14:59
pseudonymousjrib: really ? If so they might as well chuck the whole ppa thing out the window. It's immensely retarded to market a feature that's so thoroughly b0rked as this. I can understand other issues, sure. But not being able to realize that the packages that these things are built against are available.. That's just plain retarded.14:59
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge14:59
Sidewinder1That was for the 'warning' aspect.15:00
pseudonymousYea ok, that disclaimer is lawyerese, a cop-out. They're hosted by Canonical, the infrastructure is official etc etc etc..15:00
jribpseudonymous: PPAs are just repositories kindly hosted by launchpad; the same warnings apply as with any 3rd party repository15:00
pseudonymousUgh.. yay.. god knows how many hours it'll take setting everything up from scratch.15:01
hayhi all.. when I try to apt-get remove dovecot-core, I get messages like: "RTNETLINK answers: File exists", "invoke-rc.d: initscript dovecot, action "stop" failed." ... and then "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"... how can I remove dovecot package? thx15:01
jribpseudonymous: this is what you used: https://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/bleeding ?15:01
needhelp1hello, im using a 64bit version of ubuntu, and im installing the brother printer driver found here for 32 bit http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/faq_prn.html#f00104   , when installing its installed a ton of i386 stuff, is this going to be an issue?15:01
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* Sidewinder1 Has never used a ppa; that said, hopes he never will, call me 'old-fashioned', if you choose.15:02
pseudonymousMeh. They're hosted officially, that means they gain acceptance, acceptance which makes it into guides on doing stuff for ubuntu (it's no. 1 asset, IMHO) so.. I just don't accept the cop-out of them being unsupported. A feature maintained is implicitly supported. If it's broken you remove it15:02
pseudonymousjrib: yes15:02
g00denoughneedhelp1: shouldn't harm, those are needed since brother offers no amd64-packages :(15:02
jribpseudonymous: start by removing those first 4 packages (just apt-get remove them) (everything except zlib).  Does that not do anything drastic?15:03
pseudonymousSidewinder1: well you shouldn't either, or you get this mess, apparently15:03
needhelp1g00denough: any idea if there is anything i can do to get this printer driver added into the "add a printer" openprinting tool.15:03
afdJust got a Project Manager job where the rest of the team is on Campfire (mainly Mac users) and I want to hang on to Ubuntu... Anyone know of a client so I'm not stuck in the browser?15:03
ElesaHi, what's the difference between Online Accounts accounts and Broadcast accounts in Ubuntu 12.04?15:03
genii-aroundhay: sudo stop dovecot && sudo /etc/init.d/dovecot start          then try removing the package again15:03
g00denoughneedhelp1: no idea15:03
afdor whether I can connect to Campfire using Empathy?15:04
Sidewinder1pseudonymous, Just in case there was any doubt in your mind about me being old-fashioned, I'm still using 10.04.15:04
haygenii-around, thx... that worked!15:04
Priceyafd: http://bit.ly/RWPK4m15:05
genii-aroundhay: You're welcome.15:05
dr_willisneedhelp1:  you did check the repos to be sure the drivers were not in some oficial package? or a ppa perhaps. the ia32lib stuff shouldent hurt anything,15:05
haywhat's the easiest way to solve this: "php5-ldap : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.10-1ubuntu3) but 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.2 is to be installed"?15:05
pseudonymousjrib: only had some version of the gwaei package which I then removed, the others (mtr, munin, powertop) it says I don't have.15:05
afdPricey - I did DuckDuckGo first... but thanks :)15:05
jribhay: the easiest way to solve it is to know what was done regarding unofficial repositories and unofficial packages15:06
Priceyafd: hmm... 8th result... I'll stick to Google for a while :P15:06
Priceyafd: Also, sorry :-)15:06
jribpseudonymous: ok, now we must finesse zlib.  What's the result of « apt-cache policy zlib »?15:06
needhelp1dr_willis: I just searched around online and found some ubuntu forums post's to use the brother prop driver installer. im assuming the 100 + i386 lib's it installed wont hurt anything15:06
jribpseudonymous: uh, before you do that, run a « sudo apt-get update »15:07
dr_willisneedhelp1: those are 32bit support stuff15:07
pseudonymousjrib: there's no zlib, actually.. The package (checked via synaptic) is zlib1g (and zlib1g-dev)15:07
jribpseudonymous: right, check those15:08
ElesaHi, what's the difference between Online Accounts accounts and Broadcast accounts in Ubuntu 12.04?15:08
nekthar_Can I ask questions in here? I need some help15:08
pseudonymousjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224654/ :)15:08
zmyrgelhi, I'm trying to install ubuntu to dual boot with vista15:08
zmyrgelbut some reason the installer won't find my disk partitions15:09
jribpseudonymous: actually, you need to click on the arrow to the left of "zlib" at ttps://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/bleeding/+packages and check each of those packages15:09
zmyrgelgparted finds the partitions and I created linux partitions but still the installer doesn't list them15:09
nekthar_I'll just go ahead and ask away after Kakkar15:09
BluesKajzmyrgel, use the manual partitioning15:09
PriceyElesa: I 'think' broadcast accounts are most social media type things... where you want to 'broadcast' your status.. twitter/facebook etc.15:09
nekthar_Oh, he left15:09
nekthar_I'd like to ask15:09
PriceyElesa: I 'think' online accounts are more instant messenging type things...15:10
_XMENDES i want put my movies on a ubuntu folder and open with WDTV. did anyone knows what program use for this?15:10
zmyrgelBluesKaj: how to get the installer to proceed them?15:10
hayjrib, I just used some other source to install some packages... the version mismatch is very small...15:10
jribhay: :x15:10
Pricey_XMENDES: Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Media#UPnP_sharing_with_uShare (A google suggests wdtv works with dlna devices in the same way as the xbox)15:11
Pricey_XMENDES: actually ignore those instructions!!! ushare should be part of the standard repository..15:11
Pricey!info ushare15:11
ubottuushare (source: ushare): lightweight UPnP A/V Media Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1a-0ubuntu7 (precise), package size 51 kB, installed size 182 kB15:11
nekthar_I have a Windows7 PC, an Ubuntu netbook, and now an Ubuntu desktop. I installed Ubuntu on both the netbook and desktop at the same time. I configured my wireless connection to both, and connected fine. The netbook can see and ping the Windows pc and vice versa. Unfortunately, despite being connected to the net, the desktop can not ping or be pinged. What can I do?15:11
_XMENDESi ready have this installed??15:11
pseudonymousjrib: ok, the expanded paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224659/15:11
BluesKajzykotick9, try the manual option , conmtinue15:12
Pricey_XMENDES: I'd look into ushare. "sudo apt-get install ushare".15:12
BluesKajoops sorry zykotick915:12
_XMENDESwill try.. tks15:12
BluesKajzmyrgel, try the manual option , continue15:13
jribpseudonymous: ok.  What I would do is just plain remove all of the -dev packages because those won't take anything with them.  Then of the remaining that you have installed, you can issue: sudo apt-get -t precise install PACKAGE1 PACKAGE2 ...15:13
SaCruMHello, could someone tell me a site where i could download filters like instagram for Gimp for ubuntu? Thank you.15:13
zmyrgelBluesKaj: what do you mean by manual option?15:13
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gorgonzolahello peoples. I'm getting a "Icedtea is out of date" message in chrome, but i have made sure that i have icetea-7-plugin installed. is anybody aware of any packaging problems?15:13
zmyrgelI've got the livecd desktop and the graphical installer won't let me continue15:13
BluesKajzmyrgel, on the partitioning page , there should be a manual option / button15:14
SaCruMHello, could someone tell me a site where i could download filters like instagram for Gimp for ubuntu? Thank you.15:14
jribpseudonymous: I need to step out for ~15 minutes15:14
pseudonymousjrib: I'm sort of confused.. "apt-get -t precise PKG ..... " you want to do that BEFORE removing the existing packages and hope apt just installs them ?15:14
Elesathanks Pricey  :D15:14
pseudonymousjrib: oh ok. I'll probably wait before I kill my OS ;)15:15
Priceypseudonymous: I believe -t will ensure you have ubuntu's version of it, not any ppa etc.15:15
Priceywell, '-t precise'.15:15
jribpseudonymous: I am suggesting you remove the -dev packages you have installed on that list (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224659/), then of the remaning packages that say "Installed: SOME_VERSION_HERE", you write down those packages and give them to the command: apt-get -t precise install PUT_THOSE_NON_DEV_PACKAGES_YOU_HAVE_INSTALLED_HERE15:15
SaCruMHello, could someone tell me a site where i could download filters like instagram for Gimp for ubuntu? Thank you.15:16
BluesKajzmyrgel, I assume you're installing as we speak ?15:16
zmyrgelBluesKaj: the installer gives me the Installation Type page but it has "create partition" etc. greyed so. It only allows to select "Disk where to install boot loader" option15:16
zmyrgelAnd the partition section is empty. If I start the gparted it find the partitions I've made to it15:17
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zmyrgelNTFS, ext2, swap and a  ext4 partition15:17
zetheroowhen I am on Pidgin and the other guy is n Gtalk (Windows), both on our Google accounts, I can make an Audio call, but if we are both on Pidgin with our Google account there is no longer the option to Audio call ...15:18
pseudonymousHmm just tried that and it's insistant on nuking my system, even the -dev packages have LOADS of requirements attached to them. Some of which I use for C++ development. I think it's better I just give up. Time to distro hop to some distro where the package manager isn't a total dependency nazi (!)15:18
BluesKajzmyrgel, you don't see the autopartition option , or a manual option , if I recall the manual choice is at the bottom of the list15:18
pseudonymousjrib: that said - when you get back--- THANKS FOR TRYING15:18
gyre007I wonder if I can upgrade just certain package rather than the whole system...will apt-get install upgrade pkg_name do ?15:18
gorgonzolaanyone else having problems with Java in oneiric? I'm getting a "plugin out of date" message in chrome and firefox...15:19
OerHeksgorgonzola, what is the name of the plugin?15:20
MonkeyDustgyre007  every release uses its own package versions15:20
zmyrgelBluesKaj: nope, I just installed ubuntu just fine on a laptop15:20
gorgonzolaOerHeks: chrome complains explicitly about icedtea. firefox just dies silently.15:20
gyre007MonkeyDust, withing the same release...15:21
gyre007ie upgrade just one package on 11.1015:21
gorgonzolaOerHeks, and hrome sends me to the icedtea wiki15:21
gyre007not the whole distro15:21
gyre007neither all packages15:21
OerHeksgorgonzola, chrome renders java by itself, no need for icedtea15:21
gorgonzolaOerHeks really? then why is my chrome refusing to run java and blaming the plugin? should i remove icedtea and see what happens?15:22
MonkeyDustgyre007  I rephrase: each release has its own repos, software from outside the repos is not supported15:22
OerHeksgorgonzola, see the !java factoid howto select your java version15:22
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.15:22
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gorgonzolaOerHeks, aight, i'll go read an brb. thanks15:23
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gyre007MonkeyDust, so there is no way to upgrade the package youre sayin...15:23
dr_williswithin the same release kt should be possiblre,15:24
MonkeyDustgyre007  it is, as long as it is in the release's repos15:24
AdvoWorkwould time stop an rsync, ie: time rsync -azx --stats --progress -numeric-ids --bwlimit=500 /mnt/test/ /mnt/test2  it says "DRY RUN" at the end?15:24
gyre007dr_willis, i hope it is...15:24
dr_willisbut any updates are security updates for thr most part. i dont see why you wouldent update the while system15:24
gorgonzolaOerHeks, ok, so java i set java to use open-jdk 7, and restarted chrome, but it still throws the same error.15:25
dr_willisyou could just remove/reinstall the app you want to update15:25
BluesKajzmyrgel, guess ubiquity isn't what it used to be15:25
OerHeksgorgonzola, again: chrome renders java by itself, use an other browser15:26
gorgonzolaOerHeks: independently of how chrome is known to work, in this machine it is throwing a message about icedtea being out of date. Firefox just doesn't run java, and throws no message. I on't want to use another browser. Do ou think uninstalling icedtea would work?15:27
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gorgonzolaOerHeks: rekonq behaves similarly, fyi.15:28
dr_williswhats throwing the message about icedtea being out of date?15:28
jribpseudonymous: what did you type?15:28
gorgonzoladr_willis: no browser runs any java plugin, but chrome is the only one that blames icedtea.15:29
dr_willisjrib:  i think he gave up.15:29
zmyrgelBluesKaj: ran sudo dmraid -rE and now the installer find the disk15:29
BluesKajzmyrgel, so you are on a raid ..., that's differnt15:30
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AaronCampbellI tried "gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"" to allow icons in the panel (like Skype)15:30
AaronCampbellThat's all I remember having to do in 12.04.  Am I missing something or did it change in 12.10?15:30
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jrib!12.10 | AaronCampbell15:31
ubottuAaronCampbell: Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+115:31
MonkeyDustAaronCampbell  are you in 12.10?15:31
dr_willisAaronCampbell:  its very likely it has changed.15:31
IshitvaHello respectable friends ! I am a beginner , I want to install Ubuntu alongwith Windows 7 . I have only one partition on my hard disk. Please guide me with the process ?15:31
AaronCampbellubottu: But only if it's actually related to 12.10 :|  I'm just not sure.15:31
ubottuAaronCampbell: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:31
AaronCampbelljrib: But only if it's actually related to 12.10 :|  I'm just not sure.15:31
jribAaronCampbell: #ubuntu+1 is the right place to ask for help if you are on 12.1015:32
AaronCampbellI remember having to do something, I thought that was it, but it's been about 6 months since I had to do it15:32
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dr_willisIshitva:  first thing to do would be backup any imporant data. and be sure you got your windows restore disks. just in case15:32
Ishitvadr_willis: do I need to create a seperate partition for Ubuntu ?15:33
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dr_willisIshitva:  thats normally done by the installer.15:33
Ishitvadr_willis:  How do we partition the disks ?15:34
dr_willisIshitva:  it would be an odd windows install these days that only has one partition15:34
dr_willisIshitva:  done by the installer.... it can partition15:34
Ishitvadr_willis: please guide me , how to partition ?15:35
_XMENDESthere is a program to remote acess like win vnc for ubuntu?15:35
dr_willisIshitva:  you do have backups made, and restore disks made?15:35
arnotixehi all how do I connect to display 0 when only lightdm is running ? Ubuntu 13. Tried logging in with ssh and reverse-connecting the machine with x11vnc -connect <remote> -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 but it barfs with ̈́XOpenDisplay("0") failed'15:35
jrib!vnc | _XMENDES15:35
ubottu_XMENDES: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX15:35
Ishitvadr_willis: no not yet15:35
jribarnotixe: no such thing as "ubuntu 13"15:36
dr_willisIshitva:  you do have a ubuntu desktop cd made to install from?15:36
arnotixejrib, hehe ups it's 12.04.1 LTS15:36
jrib!vnc | arnotixe15:36
ubottuarnotixe: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX15:36
jribarnotixe: see if that's helpful15:36
arnotixethanks i'll have a look15:37
ring0jrib, linut mint is at number 13. so, maybe he's not really into ubuntu ;)15:37
Ishitvadr_willis: I have downloaded Ubuntu 12 image ( 32 Bit) , but a friend of mine is saying that 64 bit is better , but since Ubuntu 12 64 bit has some bugs he has advised me to download Ubuntu 11.1 version15:37
_XMENDESi have a win station, i can control ubuntu by this? using vnc?15:37
jribring0: heh15:38
dr_willisi always use 64bit on hardware that supports 64bit Ishitva .15:38
crizisIshitva, just download 12.04 and ignore him :P15:38
Juze_XMENDES: There are a lot of VNC apps for Windows too15:38
JuzeAnd yes, download 12.04 x6415:38
dr_willisIshitva:  i dont know what 'bugs' you would be refering to15:38
_XMENDESok .. i will try .. tks15:38
Ishitvadr_willis: but even on the downloads page , it is mentioned that 32 bit is recommended ;/15:38
dr_willisIshitva:  thats for people that have no clue what their hardware is..15:39
dr_willisie: its idiot-proofing15:39
auronandaceIshitva: 32bit is only recommended because it works on both 32 and 64bit processors15:39
Ishitvadr_willis: okay !15:39
Ishitvaauronandace , dr_willis  Then I am downloading the 12 version :)15:40
arnotixejrib, thanks I read everything and - it works as long as someone logged in to the machine I'd like to control. But if only lightdm is "logged in"=running X on :0, then the connection fails...15:40
jribarnotixe: which vnc server are you using?15:40
dr_willisarnotixe:  there some reason you need to see the 'current visible' desktop? thats just one way vnc can work.15:41
nekthar_My newly installed Ubuntu desktop can access the internet, but can not ping or be pinged by any other pc on the network. Can anyone offer me any assistance?15:41
arnotixejrib, it's x11vnc.15:42
Ishitvadr_willis: what to do after making a bootable disk or pen drive ?15:42
dr_willisIshitva:  backup your system.. and boot it..15:42
x-warriorI'm behing a firewall that just let me use, 443 and 80 ports. I created at my server a ssh server on port 443, so I can create a ssh -D (tunnel) to send all my connections. It is working fine on Firefox. But now, I want to use rdesktop via this tunnel (like a proxy), is it possible?15:42
arnotixedr_willis, I just wanted to complete the thunderbird setup on one of the users. But I need that user to login first...15:42
JuzeIshitva: Boot from it?15:42
Ishitvajuze okay I 'll do it as soon as I complete the download of version 1215:43
dr_willisarnotixe:  you can install tightvnc or other vnc servers, and connect to a 'hidden' desktop. and login as that user. no need for the more complex x11vnc15:43
JuzeBy the way, generic dumb question, but how does wget accept a list of URLs to mirror? -D parameter? I couldn't get it to work with *example.com/example/*15:43
dr_willisarnotixe:  or use ssh/x forwarding to run thunderbird to set it up15:43
Devin_Hey can anyone in here give me a hand with kernel compiling and update15:43
jribarnotixe: did you check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers ?15:43
Ishitvadr_willis:  Please also guide how to backup my system , I am a beginner thats why I don't know many things .15:43
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arnotixedr_willis, that's a good idea; didn't cross my mind with -X to ssh although I did use it before.15:44
dr_willis!backup | Ishitva15:44
ubottuIshitva: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning15:44
jribarnotixe: if you want to stick with x11vnc, there's a section there about "connecting to your login screen"15:44
dr_willisIshitva:  i image my whole windows hd. and keep it safe. ;)15:44
OerHeks!kernel | Devin_15:44
ubottuDevin_: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)15:44
arnotixedr_willis, I've only ever used x11vnc for reverse connect; I'll try tightvnc now15:44
JuzeIshitva: At most simple way, copy (ctrl + c) paste (ctrl + v) your most important files to an USB stick or external hard drive, or use Windows's own image tools15:45
Ishitvadr_willis: okay thanks !15:45
IshitvaJuze thanks !15:45
dr_willisarnotixe:  i just ssh in as the user, run vncserver, then connect with a vncclient.15:45
JuzeIf you want a 100% copy, then use the image tools15:45
Devin_ubottu: its for my assignment I need to15:45
ubottuDevin_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:45
OerHeksDevin_, i am not going to do your homework, all info you need is in the compile url.15:46
ikoniaDevin_: if it's for a school project, talk to your teacher who set the assignemnt15:46
Devin_ikonia: its bonus so I am on the web15:46
ikoniaDevin_: so speak to the teacher15:46
Devin_ikonia: I would but then I wouldn't get the bonus15:47
EvdbHey guys15:47
EvdbStill in huge problems15:47
JuzeAre we a spoonfeeding channel?15:47
ikoniaDevin_: what do you wish to change in the kernel ?15:47
ikoniaJuze: depends, you can have as much/little help as you want/need15:47
Devin_i already downloaded from kernel.org15:47
ikoniaDevin_: not what I asked, what do you want to change in the kernel15:48
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EvdbIs the grub boot menu the pink screen with the white highlighted options?15:48
OerHeksDevin_, you should reed the compile url, for putting your name in the header :-D15:48
Devin_ikonia: I don't need to change anything in the kernel other than, find an updated kernel, not the newest and change the kernel version string name15:48
JuzeEvdb, yes it is15:48
ikoniaDevin_: ok so you understand that changing the kernel version may break your distro ?15:49
EvdbJuze: I get that but when I choose Ubuntu blbla generic it gives kernel panic15:49
Devin_OerHeks: where do I find that15:49
Evdbjuze: I'm soo close to getting ubunto work on my mbp15:49
Devin_ikonia: absolutly I am on a VM15:49
ikoniaDevin_:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel15:49
JuzeEvdb: Tried using another kernel?15:49
EvdbJuze: how should I? Totally new15:49
ikoniaDevin_: all the info is in there15:49
JuzeEvdb: Someone else can advise, a little busy over here15:50
Devin_ikonia: Ok I hadn't found this one yet let me read through it and see if it helps15:50
Evdbjuze: hmm kay damn need this to work15:50
ClientAliveI'm having a problem using merge with unison on my ubuntu system. I've tried several things I can think of but get one error or another from unison. Can someone help me find where I'm going wrong with this? Here are pastes of two files involved: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224722/   AND   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224722/   These, I'm trying to use in connection wtih a profile called "local_sync_storage.prf"  That file contains only roots and15:51
ClientAlivepaths and It did work fine on it's own (before I started trying to do all this other stuff).15:51
EvdbSo @ all other people: After about 15 hours of trying I think I managed to install Ubutu on my MacBook Pro. The only problem is that I choose Ubuntu generic in grub and it gives kernel panic$15:51
EvdbUp until now i've only been able to boot in live, never booted in real installed OS15:52
Devin_ikonia: Ok I have read the Kernel/Compile page already15:52
Devin_ikonia: I am supposed to download from kernel.org15:52
ikoniaDevin_: then what does it tell you to do15:53
ClientAlivesorry, this is the link to the second "default.prf" file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224724/15:53
ClientAliveThe other file is "common"15:54
Devin_ikonia: It seems like in the tutorial it gives you an apt get command and then after you have a linux-source-<versionname> tar.bz2 then its extracted and you have a boot folder15:54
_XMENDEShow i list programs in use?15:55
Devin_ikonia: But the tar.bz2 I downloaded and extracted from kernel.org does not have the boot folder15:55
ikoniaDevin_: with respet, I think this is out of your current abilities grasp, and I'd not go for the extra credit15:55
ring0_XMENDES, top15:55
Devin_ikonia: So I can't find the config15:55
_XMENDEStks :)15:55
ikoniaDevin_: that's not how it works, I think this is a little beyond your experience at this time15:55
Ishitvadr_willis: Juze : auronandace : Thanks for your help friends , I am going offline right now , I will come back whenever I need you guidance !15:56
jribClientAlive: you should say what the errors are15:56
Devin_ikonia: well let me ask you this, if you HAD to do a kernel update from kernel.org, how would you start after downloading your zipped package and extracting15:56
dr_willis!kernel > Devin_15:57
ubottuDevin_, please see my private message15:57
Devin_ikonia: Also I know that I am new to linux/unix/ubuntu but I am not new to troubleshooting and computers, and I am still enjoying myself and thats what matters so I appreciate your advice but I would like to continue15:57
ikoniaDevin_: I'd say "you're trying ot get me to do your home work for you for extra credit" - that's what I'd say15:57
dr_willisstart by reading the bots urls it gave you. ;)15:57
jribDevin_: the page on the wiki has instructions for building a kernel from git.  I suggest you follow those, trying to understand all of it.  Then after you've done that, I think you will know what to do.  If not, you can come back and ask for more details15:57
OerHeksDevin_, i would read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile#C.29_Download_the_source_package but you don't want to, so you earn no points.15:57
ikoniaDevin_: troubleshooting computers and troubleshooting linux are nothing like the same so have no relevence15:57
ikoniaDevin_: compiling the kernel is an advacned topic - so I suggest you not attempt it at this time, more so as you're struggling to grasp the fundementals listed on the introduction page15:58
Devin_OerHeks: I don't have a debian folder though15:58
ikoniaDevin_: because you go the kernel from kernel.org15:58
dr_williserr.. make one?15:58
ClientAlivejrib: ok, well the last thing I did was write a line at the top of the file: "local_sync_storage.prf" then try to run that profile throught the unison gui. The line I added was "include common"  The error I get is: garbled line, no =" Then I went back into that file and put an = in between so the line looks like: "include = common" and the error I get is: "File "local_sync_storage", line 32: `include' is not a valid option"15:58
ikoniawhch is not what the instructions say15:58
d3bughello ppl15:58
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds15:59
jribClientAlive: you should not have an "=" in the include line15:59
Devin_ikonia: and let me just say im sorry, I don't want you to do my hw, I am just looking for some advice, I don't mean to be rude15:59
ClientAlivejrib: The reason is before I wrote that line in "local_sync_storage.prf" when there was no include at all) unison would say there is no merge set for the profile.15:59
ikoniaDevin_: the advice is writen in that web page15:59
ikoniaDevin_: it walks you through it, but it does assume you have a certain level of understanding16:00
ClientAlivejrib: I've tried both ways (the way without the = as well)16:00
TiZHi. I work for a law college, and we purchased a Planar PT3285PW touchscreen to use with an ubuntu-powered web kiosk. The problem is, the touchscreen works fine for a few minutes, but then stops sending mouse button events. If you plug in a regular mouse, clicks from it don't work either. What's going on here?16:00
jribClientAlive: how are you calling unison?16:00
janusianI'm experiencing a series of problems with running Ubuntu 12.04 on an Asus M5A78L-M motherboard. Most of them seem to be with respect to the on-board ATI Radeon HD3000 and Ubuntu's various drivers for it (both open source and proprietary).16:00
Devin_ikonia: I know I keep reading different pages, but nothing is an exact walkthrough of what I am trying to do, all of that is based off of you using the apt get command which gives you a boot folder and a config file, my downloaded folder from kernel.org has non of that16:00
ClientAlivethrough the gui right now but want to add cron jobs once I get all the kinks worked out.16:00
ikoniaDevin_: because there is no walk through, it requires EXPERIENCE16:01
jribClientAlive: where do you specify the roots?16:01
ClientAlivein the "local_sync_storage.prf" file.16:01
janusianOn first install, the system was working ok and, gave me the option to install "Additional Drivers". I went ahead and did that. After that point, I can't get video to playback properly.16:01
ikoniaDevin_: the instructions don't tell you to download from kernel.org - so why are you ignoring the instructions and doing that ?16:01
ikoniaDevin_: follow the instructions16:01
ikoniaDevin_: however I suspect you will still struggle/fail because it requires a basic level of experience at least16:02
ikoniaDevin_: that's not a put down, that's just a reality check16:02
janusianThe screen flickers, whenever I move between desktops and generally, I am getting a crap graphics experience..16:02
jribhonestly, it only understands reading and thinking about what is read :x16:02
janusianI've looked online, but I can't seem to find any answers for reverting my ubuntu back to its initial state16:02
MarezzHowdy folks16:02
Devin_ikonia: No, I know its not the way it instructs me to, my assignment requiresme to16:02
janusian(I tried purging the fglrx)16:02
ikoniaDevin_: then you can't get it done.16:03
BluesKajjanusian, did you reboot after installing the drivers ? i have to ask16:03
ikoniaDevin_: you don't get extra credit.16:03
Marezzwhats the name of the default 10.04 LTS theme?16:03
ikoniaDevin_: good effort for trying, but it's a little out of reach at this time16:03
janusianBluesKaj, yep, I've been trying out various drivers/"solutions"16:03
Marezzbooted 10.04 lts yesterday, man how it looked great16:03
QuantumQrackCan somebody help me please:  I am trying to get ubuntu desktop 64bit to boot off a usb stick.  When it tries to load, it goes through the loading process then eventually I get a message "rebooting in 30 seconds"  and it reboots...and never really loads.  Just reboots, tries to load, get the rebooting message, the reboot, load, etc etc.  Will this not load on an overclocked CPU?16:03
ClientAlivejrib: the "default.prf" file contains only one line "include = common" and I've tried that withouth the = too. The common file has just a list of preferences set (stuff like merge and mergebatch and so on16:03
Devin_Ok I am going to follow jribs advice and see if I can read the tutuorial about upgrading from git and see if that helps at all16:03
jribDevin_: ignore the assignment for now and do it the way the page says... so you can learn something :)  Then it will be easier16:04
Devin_jrib: thanks16:04
jribClientAlive: but you need to specify what paths you want unison to operate on16:04
Marezzwhats the name of the default 10.04 LTS theme?16:04
janusianUbuntu just doesn't seem to like any of the graphics cards I have. I used to use an nvidia card, but that wasn't compatible with Compiz (so didn't do anything fancy) and now this ati is compatible, but it retards my whole system as a result.16:04
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edgyHi, # ls -ld /var/16:04
edgydrwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Sep 22 06:42 /var/, so /var is modified 2 days ago, what does this mean?16:04
ClientAlivejrib: in the "local_sync_storage.prf" file is where roots are specified16:04
EvdbAfter about 15 hours of trying I think I managed to install Ubutu on my MacBook Pro. The only problem is that I choose Ubuntu generic in grub and it gives kernel panic16:05
jribClientAlive: I don't think you've pastebinned that (your original message had 2 identical URLs)16:05
BluesKajjanusian, some ppl have had success with the proprietary divers for ATI/Radeon from their website , but I'm not sure if that would apply in your case16:05
jribClientAlive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224722/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224724/ is what I see16:05
ClientAlivejrib: I can pm that link to you if it's ok16:05
jribClientAlive: put it here in case others are following16:05
ClientAlivepers stuff in there (sort of)16:05
jribClientAlive: oh.  ok.16:05
MarezzDid AMD drop support for HD 4650?16:06
JuzeGeneric wget question: Does wget support URL wildcards and how?16:06
janusianBluesKaj, I am currently running the proprietary drivers ... They have corrected the problem with video (for VLC anyway, totem doesn't work at all).16:06
BluesKajjanusian, you should need to use compiz on the newer ubuntu OSs16:06
deadmundMarezz: What do you mean?16:06
BluesKajshould  not rather , janusian16:06
janusianThe problem now is the tearing between desktop switching and the generally poor animation of window drags and such16:07
Marezzdeadmund: I think I read somewhere that they wont release drivers for it anymore16:07
deadmundMarezz: Oh!  I think you mean they won't update the driver for it anymore.16:07
janusianBluesKaj, I was under the assumption that they would be robust enough to try out - with my newer system (my old system was under powered and quite antiquated).16:07
brandtdownloaded update of tor pkg and not sure if it updated on it's own16:07
janusianI really wouldn't have messed about with Compiz, if I had known this before hand... a lesson in the learning, really.16:08
cmcintoshis there a way to connect multiple monitors / keyboards to a single desktop and have each running its own session16:08
cmcintoshso like each has its own xwindows display16:09
BluesKajjanusian, yes , VLC  ftw , definitely , but isn't compiz a bit long in the tooth for newer systems ?16:09
janusianBluesKaj, dunno, I just wanted to use the "fancy" desktop cube and rotate functions16:09
janusianas a result I ended up messing up my system16:09
brandtneed cmnd line for download update install16:10
janusianI'm now wondering how to get rid of compiz and get back to my initial state.16:10
BluesKajjanusian, doesn't unity provide that without compiz? , KDE does16:10
OpenIndianaVboxBluesKaj: unity uses compiz by default16:10
zykotick9OpenIndianaVbox: actually, unity is a compiz plugin16:11
Evdbbekks: you here?16:11
janusianBluesKaj, I was under the impression that compiz was necessary to do such things.16:11
hayafter doing "apt-get install slapd ldap-utils" I get ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Local error (-2) when trying to do ldapadd... any ideas why? thx16:11
AaronCampbellIs there a users/groups management gui for Unity?16:12
BluesKajOpenIndianaVbox, zykotick9 , ok thanks , didn't kow that16:12
janusianhow would I disable compiz?16:12
ubottuUnity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity16:12
BluesKajjanusian, looks like you need compiz16:12
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janusian(btw, I'm no expert in Ubuntu, just a casual user)16:12
bartjehi guys, anyone else having issues with nautilus-share? I have...16:12
janusianBluesKaj, is there any way to "restore" the system to an earlier point (ie a point earlier than my compiz muck-up_16:13
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genii-aroundTiZ: Might want to disable autosuspend of the USB in sysctl.conf16:14
OpenIndianaVboxzykotick9: not quite true, you forget about unity2d too16:14
bazhangjanusian, a la system restore?16:14
Reagawill ubuntu have ads?16:14
ikoniait's an operating system16:15
bazhangReaga, NO16:15
janusianbazhang, something like that.16:15
ikoniait does not have adverts16:15
Reagabazhang: yes it will, i read an article saying exactly that16:15
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hellslingerReaga: stop trolling16:15
BluesKajjanusian, you probly need to just change the graphics drivers , altho any other app changes will remain16:15
janusianBluesKaj, how would I return the graphics driver to the original one?16:16
chuckfReaga: it will have links to amazon items for sale based on searches you perform using the dash component16:16
OpenIndianaVboxReaga: don't believe the hype, its just a lens that lets you search amazon16:16
zykotick9OpenIndianaVbox: unity2d is a dead project 12.10 won't have it...16:16
ReagaIMO, amazon is a company and no company should have business involved with ubuntu. its against linux philosophy16:17
bazhangReaga, thats enough.16:17
OpenIndianaVboxzykotick9: as of 12.10 yes, but to say unity is just a compiz plugin is a gross oversimplification16:17
ikoniaReaga: stop talking nonsense now16:18
BluesKajbazhang, could you help janusian , I have to go for a bit ...BBL16:18
ikoniaReaga: this channel is for ubuntu suppor t- stick to that topic please.16:18
zykotick9OpenIndianaVbox: that's what Unity is... i don't understand you issue - but i won't comment further.16:18
hellslingerReaga is trolling16:18
genii-aroundReaga: Feel free to discuss the merits or not of businesses being involved with linux in #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps, but not here in the support channel.16:18
janusianBluesKaj, k and thanks for the response :)16:18
OpenIndianaVboxzykotick9: if it were mearly a plugin then it wouldn't depend on gnome316:18
TiZgenii-around: Is there anyway I can do that on boot?16:18
TiZOr just, like, turn it off from inside the running system?16:20
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d3bugcan anyone tell me how to close a query window in irssi?16:25
ikoniad3bug:  /close16:26
cprofittyes type /unquery16:26
ikoniad3bug: or /window close16:26
d3bugthank you16:26
anxelalguien me puede ayudar?16:27
anxeltengo un juego y no me lee la libreria fmod16:27
zykotick9d3bug: i like /wc myself shorter ;)16:27
anxelsomeone helps me to configure fmod in zandronum?16:28
ianphow do i go about finding a dependency that doesn't exist? can't find it using apt-cache search , google, etc... package is 'tanukiwrapper' and a dependency of apache's activemq...16:29
ximm1update grub does only create a non-functional ubuntu entry on my wubi installation. I guess this is due to a missing /etc/grub.d/10_lupin . Do you know where to find that file or what else could cause my problem?16:30
designbybeckI have a install i did Ubuntu Restricted Files, I assume that comes with Java IIRC? And most sites work. However some sites say I don't have Java install and to go to java.com to get it. What does everyone else do in this case?16:30
OpenIndianaVbox!java | designbybeck16:31
ubottudesignbybeck: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.16:31
designbybeckThank you OpenIndianaVbox.... pros/cons to either JDK or SDK?16:32
xanguadesignbybeck: resctricted extras install openjdk, i have no isues with it on any site16:32
designbybeckxangua:  I tried http://edubuntu.com 's weblive trial16:32
designbybeckand it didn't like my java I guess16:32
EvdbIs tere anyone specific willing to help me, it's driving me crzay but time's running short :s I've posted here several times and got an answer from various people, which helped me a lot, I hope I can get just that last push to get it to work...16:35
bazhangEvdb, ask the channel and see16:36
EvdbThat's what I've done about 10 times :(16:36
designbybeckask one more time16:37
bubuntoidachtung condition!! ubuntu network gives -5 error16:39
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EvdbI have been trying to get Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro for about 15 hours total now. I think I managed to install Ubuntu. When I open Ubuntu in rEFIt, i get a pink window with grey options. I choose Ubuntu but the I get a Kernel panic (timer or something). I really hope there's an easy fix, I'm exhausted and getting a bit crazy too...16:40
gordonjcpEvdb: sounds like you've not installed ubuntu properly16:41
Evdbgordonjcp: Do you use a Mac?16:41
gordonjcpEvdb: I'm on a Late 2007 MacBook right now16:41
designbybeckEvdb: yes what gordonjcp said. When you were in refit did you make sure it installed to the correct partition?16:42
Evdbgordonjcp: ah are you willing to try and help me?16:42
gordonjcpEvdb: I could try16:42
EvdbI didn't install it via refit, I opened live USB in refit and installed ubuntu on the free space I made available16:42
gordonjcpEvdb: you need to create an EFI bootable USB stick16:42
EvdbI have a bootable USB stick16:42
gordonjcpat least, that's what worked for me16:42
EvdbThis loads ubuntu16:42
EvdbI can try or install16:42
bubuntoid-5 - No address associated with hostname?16:43
EvdbI need to check 'noapic' when running live version16:43
EvdbI installed to the free space + created 1 gb swap16:43
designbybeckEvdb: I've only done an install on a Mac once with ubuntu, The mac actually had XP on it too... but this is what worked for me: http://lifehacker.com/5934942/how-to-dual-boot-linux-on-your-mac-and-take-back-your-powerhouse-apple-hardware16:43
Calinouinstalling another OS in a mac *silently laughs*16:43
Evdbbootloader is on my main drive dev/sda/16:43
gordonjcpEvdb: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?95640-BOOTING-UBUNTU-with-USB-on-MAC16:44
Evdbdesignbybeck: I read that one, will try again I guess16:44
Evdbthanks gordonjcp, I'll create a new bootUSB16:44
shaneohey guys having issues opening synaptic keep getting16:44
shaneoE: The value 'stable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources16:44
shaneoE: _cache->open() failed, please report.16:44
EvdbI'll combine your two forces and hopefully it'll work16:44
AaronCampbellI'm having problems with Skype audio (it's SUPER distorted with massive static), and several places say it's an issue with Skype and Pulseaudio.  That removing Pulseaudio might fix it.16:45
EvdbOne other problem: I ran boot repair and now primary refit is efi/ubuntu efi something16:45
bubuntoidubuntu servers died?16:45
* afflicto just tried to see if it worked and it did16:45
* jiltdil loves irssi16:45
Calinoupoor irrsi16:45
dr_willisshaneo:  youve not been mixxing things from debian into ubuntu have you?16:45
AaronCampbellHowever, as I tried to remove it synaptic says the package "ubuntu-desktop" would be removed as well.  Is that going to be an issue?  Or is that like a place-holder package?16:46
shaneodr_willis not that I know of16:46
Evdbgordonjcp: my refit primary chooses an ubuntu efi that appeared after running boot reapir in live version16:46
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* jiltdil loves freenode.net16:46
shaneodr_willis: how would I check?16:46
bazhang!ot | jiltdil16:46
ubottujiltdil: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:46
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jiltdilbazhang, Sorry16:47
dr_willisshaneo:  i think 'stable' is a debian release name. where ubuntu used names like 'oneric' 'percice' and 'quantal' or whatver they are. ;)16:47
afflictoHey all. using gnome shell -- I installed the CPU/mem/net monitor extension as well as lm-sensors but my CPU temp shows -270 celcius which is probably not correct xD16:47
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zykotick9dr_willis: while you are correct "stable" is a possible debian name, it SHOULDN'T be used </OT>16:48
shaneodr_willis: hmm thats odd because i never used debian on my pc before...i installed get_deb the other day would that be it16:48
satyamanybody know elctric vlsi16:48
dr_willisshaneo:  could be itsss somehow set for debian and not ubuntu. would be my guess16:48
bazhangsatyam, connection to ubuntu support?16:49
shaneodr_willis: should I check sources.list?16:49
dr_willisshaneo:  for starters yes. and the other apt config giles16:49
bazhangsatyam, which is what?16:49
satyamu know elctric vlsi16:50
bubuntoid-5 - No address associated with hostname? repository died?16:50
bazhangsatyam, did you have an ubuntu support question?16:50
OpenIndianaVboxsatyam: to get help you need to explain your problem16:51
bazhangsatyam, then thats offtopic here16:51
dr_willisbubuntoid:  you may want to clarify your issue16:51
bubuntoidapt-get gives this error messing with repositories16:51
satyam i have an problem in electric vlsi16:51
bazhangsatyam, this is ubuntu support16:52
OpenIndianaVboxsatyam: if you are not using ubuntu then you shouldn't be asking here16:52
OpenIndianaVboxmissed him16:52
ActionParsnipbubuntoid: stil having the issue?16:53
bubuntoidwhat was that?16:53
ActionParsnipbubuntoid: great :)16:53
ActionParsnip17:50 < bubuntoid> -5 - No address associated with hostname? repository died?16:54
reufhello any software for voice changing? modification?16:54
bubuntoidI need to wait for ~10 minutes before ubuntu will be able to use internet?16:54
Calinoureuf: audacity16:54
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ActionParsnipbubuntoid: why is that?16:57
bubuntoidI have no idea why I was getting such idiotic errors16:58
ash_hello, i wonder if somebody cans how me how to create a channel on xchat and invite my friend in?16:58
MonkeyDustash_  type /join #blah - it creates a channel - then invite your friend16:59
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Ragtime^Are there any channels in freenode for Amazon Web Services?17:01
Guest74988I've installed Ubuntu 12.04 and I try to install the additional drivers for my ATI card but Ubuntu will not install them.. and comes back with that I should check the  /var/log/jockey.log17:02
Guest74988How can I install the ATI drivers the right way?17:02
bazhangRagtime^, #aws17:02
Ragtime^Thank you.17:02
crizisGuest74988: are you trying to install the 'updated' version of the driver?17:02
dr_willisyou did look at the log? it may explain the problem Guest7498817:03
Guest74988and does Ubuntu have a default IRC client? if so.. which program might that be?17:03
crizisdr_willis, nah, it's broken for fgrlx-updates package17:03
Guest74988crizis: post release17:03
dr_willisthe default im client in ubuntu can do irc17:03
Guest74988dr_willis: I did but I cannot understand the issues17:04
crizisGuest74988: yeah exactly that one. it won't work. you can install that version from command line though: "sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates"17:04
dr_willisthen theres freendodes web chat17:04
crizisGuest74988: non-post-update version does install with additional drivers, but if you're not afraid of that one apt line, install newer ones ^^17:04
Guest74988crizis: oke and do I need special PPA's for that too?17:04
crizisstable driver is catalyst 11.8, fglrx-updates ("post release") is catalyst version 12.417:05
Guest74988crizis: oke thanx I will try!17:05
crizis.. then just boot after it's done17:06
Guest74988crizis: fglrx-updates is already the newest version17:06
Guest74988oke I need to go for a sec.. am back in a few mins17:06
crizisok, well, should work then after boot. maybe additional drivers managed to install it anyway17:06
genii-aroundTiZ: Apologies on lag. It seems the module responsible (usbcore) is now compiled into the kernel and it nis not possible to reload it on the fly with new parameters. You can however still set it not to suspend by adding module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend = -1   into the /etc/sysctl.conf where it will take effect next boot.17:10
rabbi1i have installed ibus, and added language support required and Keyboard input method is selected to 'ibus' in language Support, but still i am unable to select the required language in ibus preferences.... any suggestion ?17:11
OpenIndianaVboxwin 517:12
SnappoHello, I just installed the latest daily build of Ubuntu 12.10, and I cant't boot, I get an error that says "Unrecognized file system" and a grub prompt17:13
Snappocurrently running a live session from USB17:13
crizisSnappo, #ubuntu+117:14
* dr_willis takes a note to not update his 12.10 box today.... ;)17:14
BluesKajSnappo, grub rescue prompt ?17:15
TiZgenii-around: I added usbcore.autosuspend=0 to the boot command line, and... it seemed to work for a bit, but when my boss really dug his finger into the touchscreen, it stopped working. Darn my tiny hands and his giant hands.17:15
rabbi1i have installed ibus, and added language support required and Keyboard input method is selected to 'ibus' in language Support, but still i am unable to select the required language in ibus preferences.... any suggestion ?17:17
MarezzIs it a good idea to install 12.04 on single core athlon64 @1.8GHz, 2GB ram?17:17
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bazhangrabbi1, install them in language support17:18
BluesKajSnappo, a grub rescue prompt or an actual grub menu ?17:18
rabbi1bazhang: installed17:19
BluesKajMarezz, shouldn't be a problem17:19
OpenIndianaVboxwin 217:19
rabbi1not showing in select input methods :( to add17:19
bazhangrabbi1, then restart ibus17:19
rabbi1bazhang: restart is also don17:19
bazhangrabbi1, what about ibus-setup17:20
rabbi1i infact restarted the system17:20
rabbi1bazhang: under ibus-setup -> input method -> select input method is not showing the language installed :(17:20
bubuntoidare there xsd schemes available for ubuntu?17:21
bazhangrabbi1, restart ibus, not the system17:21
rabbi1bazhang: installed the language, selected the keyboard input method to ibus, then restarted ibus, din't work, so restarted the whole system, just in case. but still cant find the language installed  \17:22
bazhangrabbi1, thats odd. it works fine here17:23
rabbi1bazhang: is there anything to install with ibus any extra plugin or something ?17:23
rabbi1or am i missing some libraries ?17:23
RichardRaseleyWhat is the recommended way to make my iptables rules persistant on 12.04?17:23
bazhangrabbi1, not that I know of17:24
rabbi1bazhang: im-config is required ?17:26
kimdwhi all17:26
kimdwHi all. I can not delete the characters and move the cursor with the arrows in the shell of gvim (guipty). You can help me please? I tired to set "t_ku,t_kd,t_kr,t_kl" but to no avail.17:26
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ActionParsnipRichardRaseley: here is one way: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-save-iptables-rules-or-settings/17:31
bubuntoidare there some XML and XHTML schemes available for ubuntu?17:32
RichardRaseleyActionParsnip: Thank you17:32
jribRichardRaseley: you can just use the iptables-perisistent package. See ubottu's !iptables factoid for alternatives that only load rules when an iface is activated17:33
RichardRaseleyjrib: Thank you17:34
RichardRaseleyjrib: What is a "factoid"?17:35
OpenIndianaVbox!brain | RichardRaseley17:36
ubottuRichardRaseley: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots17:36
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.17:36
RichardRaseleyCool, thanks17:37
rbrooksis there way to opt out of amazon search install on ubuntu?17:39
wilee-nileerbrooks, you running 12.1017:40
OpenIndianaVboxrbrooks: uninstall the lens17:40
rbrooksno lens gotcha, thanks17:40
rbrooksi hope they make lots ov money on this17:41
sewuuuuuyo nigraz17:42
sewuuuuuanyone get their iphone5 to work with ubuntu17:42
sewuuuuuor have any suggestions on drivers to install?17:42
ubottuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod17:42
rbrookswork how?17:42
bazhang!language | sewuuuuu17:42
ubottusewuuuuu: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.17:42
sewuuuuuevery minute it so my 12.04 install keeps redetecting the device17:43
sewuuuuuor so*17:43
rbrooksthats awesome17:43
rbrooksdnk that was possible17:43
sewuuuuuif you like seeing the ugly dock17:43
sewuuuuui do not17:43
rbrooksiphone 5  badass gratz17:43
sewuuuuuit's a nice device17:44
rbrookslooks like it even good battery life17:44
RichardRaseleyI am having trouble opening up an inbound TCP port on Ubuntu Server 12.04. I ran a sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport amqp -j ACCEPT17:46
RichardRaseleyBut when I try to: telnet <ip> 5672 I get a connection refused...17:46
AlexPortableWhy the fuck is Cannonical putting ads in ubuntu?17:46
RichardRaseleyAlexPortable: They aren't.17:47
OpenIndianaVbox!language | AlexPortable17:47
ubottuAlexPortable: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.17:47
bazhang!language > AlexPortable17:47
ubottuAlexPortable, please see my private message17:47
AlexPortableThey are17:47
bazhangAlexPortable, stop it17:47
RichardRaseleyAlexPortable: No, they aren't.17:47
OpenIndianaVboxAlexPortable: don't believe the hype, its just a lens that lets you search amazon17:47
ActionParsnipAlexPortable: not seen them on my laptop17:47
bazhang!ot | AlexPortable17:48
ubottuAlexPortable: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:48
RichardRaseleyAlexPortable: They aren't advertisements, they are search results from Amazon.17:48
AlexPortablewill the lense use data when not being used?17:48
bazhangAlexPortable, please stop17:48
AlexPortablestop with what?17:48
AlexPortable"the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions"17:49
RichardRaseleyIs anything beyond just a "sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport amqp -j ACCEPT" needed to open up inbound tcp 5672?17:49
AlexPortableI think this is ubuntu related17:49
AlexPortableI literally have no idea how the data usage is with lenses17:49
AlexPortableThis doesn't matters that much on my desktop. But for my desktop it does17:49
OpenIndianaVboxAlexPortable: no, you are discussing a feature in 12.10, really you should be in #ubuntu+117:49
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sewuuuuuif it's not an ad17:53
sewuuuuuwhat is it17:53
OpenIndianaVboxsewuuuuu: seriously, don't bother17:53
sewuuuuuyou guys are sackriding too hard17:53
sewuuuuuI agree with AlexPortable17:53
sewuuuuunot that classy17:54
OpenIndianaVboxsewuuuuu: uninstall the lens then17:54
devin_hey I am working on a project where I need to download source code linux from kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/ and I need to compile it17:56
OpenIndianaVboxdevin_: ask in ##linux17:56
devin_OpenIndianaVbox: I am using ubuntu though17:57
bekksdevin_: Then do it, in first instance.17:57
bekksWhere's the specific problem?17:57
bazhangdevin_, thats not an ubuntu support issue17:57
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devin_bazhang: well my specific question is how do I edit the name from uname -r from generic to something else17:58
Guest51195Any idea how to fix streaming through vlc problem? Error: lua demux error: Couldn't extract youtube video URL, please check for updates to this script t17:58
bazhangdevin_, you got plenty of answers the last time you were here. read the links given to you17:58
devin_bazhang bekks OpenIndianaVbox Is that in the configs????17:58
bekksdevin_: No.17:58
devin_bazhang: I know I did, I found a better link I think17:58
usr13Guest51195: You're not grying to stream something you don't have, are you?17:59
usr13Guest51195: Download it first.17:59
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Guest51195usr13, I won't the fix not work around.17:59
Guest51195usr13, want *18:00
usr13Guest51195: Oh, I didn't know vlc would do that.18:00
intraderI don't understand why the su command fails in the term application. I am providing my usual password and I get 'su: Authentication failure. I am running ubuntu 12.0418:00
Guest51195usr13, It does. Nice thing for watching fullscreen youtube on low ends like netbooks.18:00
OpenIndianaVboxintrader: root is disabled by default, you are meant to use sudo18:00
devin_bekks bazhang OpenIndianaVbox This is the link I used, it looks about right18:01
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usr13Guest51195: Try and play it first.  Does it play?18:01
xineintrader: sudo -i  gives you a root shell after typing in your user password18:01
bekksdevin_: There is no link. And even if it looks right - unless you have a specific ubuntu issue, we cant help you, I'm afraid.18:02
devin_bekks bazhang OpenIndianaVbox : So all i need to do now or before I compile is figure how to change the string generic in uname -r18:02
Guest51195Yes. It does. Nothing wrong with the link. Mplayer also fails at streaming. They were working fine few days ago.18:02
bekksdevin_: You cant change the output of uname -t18:02
intraderOpenIndianaVbox, I am trying to install xampp - the instructions for installation say that I need to login as root. I will try sudo -i. Thanks xine18:02
bekksdevin_: You cant change the output of uname -r :)18:02
devin_bekks: http://linuxtweaking.blogspot.com/2011/02/how-to-compile-kernel-from-kernelorg-in.html18:03
bekksdevin_: And it isnt needed to change it to compile the kernel sources.18:03
bazhangintrader, xampp is not supported use lamp18:03
bazhang!xampp > intrader18:03
ubottuintrader, please see my private message18:03
bekksAND it is described somewhere in help.ubuntu.com on how to compile vanilla sources for Ubuntu.18:03
devin_bekks: No I know I don't have to inorder to compile, It is possible, I have seen the outputs as examples on my assignment, but I think it is in the configs18:03
bekksbazhang: Am I right that he's been given those links already?18:04
usr13Guest51195: Run vlc from terminal to see if you get any clues.18:04
bazhangbekks, yes18:04
bazhangdevin_, read all the links.18:04
Guest51195usr13, posted the error in my first message already.18:04
bekksdevin_: Whatever you think - the output of uname -r is in no config in the kernel.org sources.18:04
bekksbazhang: thanks18:04
intraderwhat is the difference between lamp and xampp?18:04
OpenIndianaVbox!lamp | intrader18:05
ubottuintrader: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)18:05
devin_bazhang: I did, but this is an advanced project and there is no simple walkthrough for it18:05
zykotick9!xampp | intrader18:05
ubottuintrader: We do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information.18:05
bekksdevin_: You didnt - then you'd know that you dont have to mess around uname -r at all.18:05
usr13Guest51195: Ok forget it, (I just got here).  Take it up with youtube or vlc, (it's not a Ubuntu issue more-than-likely).18:05
xangua!mainline | devin_ get your new kernel, be happy :)18:05
ubottudevin_ get your new kernel, be happy :): The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds18:05
xanguadevin_: on your own risk of course*18:06
bazhangxangua, thats not what he's asking for18:06
sameerynhodoes ubuntu one offer any ssh or rsync support18:06
devin_bekks: I know I don't have to in order for functionality. But I have to because thats what my assignment is18:06
bazhangsameerynho, try asking in #ubuntuone18:06
sameerynhobazhang: thanks18:06
Guest51195usr13, I told you that mplayer also fails so I am not sure does it any more or likely vlc issue.18:07
xanguabazhang: he only wants to install a recent kernel or to cheat his teacher by 'changing the output of uname -r', does not¿18:07
intraderThanks for your help and info!18:07
bazhangxangua, not quite, no18:07
bekksdevin_: However - the output of uname -r is not configurable, whatever your assignment is. And all the rest is described in the links you have been given, as I was told.18:08
devin_xangua: I already did that, I am not doing this for functionality, I am doing this for a project. I did the main line update as part I now part II I need to you linux source code from kernel.org and comile it myself and change the output of uname - r from 3.2.2 -generic to 3.2.2-DGL18:09
devin_bekks: I know I am not asking about compiling anymore, I need to figure out how to modify to change my kernel name18:09
bekksdevin_: Which is not an Ubuntu issue.18:10
devin_bekks: Ok, so you don't know18:10
bekksdevin_: I do know, but it isnt an Ubuntu issue.18:10
OpenIndianaVboxdevin_: this channel is just for support issues18:10
devin_bekks: LOL SO JUST TELL ME18:10
usr13devin_: They did.  Try ##linux18:11
grkbloodsometime recently, i'm assuming after an update, the vga port on my laptop stopped working. now when I plug in my external monitor the screen displays the laptop screen for quick flash and then goes back to black. anyone know what this problem is from?18:11
usr13grkblood: Ctrl-Alt-F5  #And what do you see?18:12
grkbloodusr13, i forgot to add that when I plug in my external monitor my laptop screen also goes black18:13
usr13grkblood: If you get a console login, it is more-than-likely a video driver issue, in which case you can: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak18:13
grkbloodusr13, the command line prompt18:13
usr13grkblood: Login and issue above command.18:14
usr13grkblood: sudo18:14
OpenIndianaVboxusr13: you're assuming he has a xorg.conf18:14
isopovHello, I have the following in my dmesg - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225032/ - does this mean that ACPI is not used and thats why lm-sensors don't work?18:14
grkbloodim using xrandr18:14
usr13OpenIndianaVbox: Stating the obvious is often helpful, (but not always).18:15
user82hi. i have sort of a problem. i need to use the boot parameters "acpi=off" and "noapic" to get my gpu running properly but then my sound card is not detected(which 100% works with this exact ubuntu version). does anyone have an idea?18:16
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OpenIndianaVboxuser82: knowing the gpu would help18:17
grkbloodusr13, that did not fix the problem18:17
usr13grkblood: Did you get an error?18:17
usr13grkblood: Did you reboot?18:17
BluesKajuser82, maybe you just need to reload the soundcard module/driver , which card is it ?18:18
usr13grkblood: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak  #Is this the command you used?18:18
grkbloodusa_today, can I not just to ctrl-alt-backspace?18:18
usr13grkblood: Crtl-Alt-Backspace does nothing.18:19
grkbloodk, ill reboot18:19
usr13grkblood: From the console, Ctrl-Alt-Delete  #Will reboot.18:20
BluesKajuser82, run aplay -l  to find the soundcard name18:20
user82OpenIndianaVbox: Nvidia gt 61018:20
bekksusr13: thats wrong.18:20
OpenIndianaVboxuser82: sounds new, is this an optimus system?18:21
bekksThat will kill the xserver, but will not reboot.18:21
user82OpenIndianaVbox: let me check. BluesKaj the soundcard is not detected in aplay18:21
usr13bekks: What is wrong?18:21
bekksusr13: ctrl alt backspace kill X, but does not reboot.18:21
zykotick9bekks: fyi c+a+backspace hasn't worked by default for a while now...18:22
ubunnytuHi all, for starters, thanks to everyone and the world for giving us linux. I've occasionally used ubuntu for about a decade now and it's come a long way. Here's my question: is it possible to customize the guest account, e.g. change UI text size, indicator applets and program icons is unity?18:22
usr13bekks: That is not what I said.  I said that if he was in console mode, (tty6), Ctrl-Alt-Delete would reboot.18:22
bekksusr13: Then I just misread you, I apologize.18:22
bekkszykotick9: I know :)18:23
zykotick9genii-around: !dontzap seems to have been removed both factoid and wiki page18:23
usr13bekks: And if you scroll up, I told him the exact thing you just .... ok.  NP18:23
zykotick9bekks: ok, sorry.18:23
JoelAlejandroHello there! Anyone knows a good Database Modelor for Ubuntu?18:23
user82BluesKaj: i cannot find it with lshw either18:23
JoelAlejandroIf possible, something that is Database-abstracted18:23
genii-aroundzykotick9: Hm.18:23
user82it is onboard18:23
win7usrhey if i create an live usb ubuntu and run will it detects my wirless18:24
user82OpenIndianaVbox: no optimus i think18:24
grkbloodusr13, that fixed it but broke conky18:24
user82but i have an idea..i now got the proprietary driver installed maybe i can remove the kernel options again18:25
cristian__evening guys18:25
usr13grkblood: Ok, now you can look into "Hardware Drivers"18:25
cristian__i've got a problem with DPKG divert can someone help me ?18:25
bekkscristian__: Whats a dpkg divert?18:25
usr13grkblood: NP18:26
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cristian__i'm upgrading a plugin, someone inserted in the debian package the Divert to preserve the files. when i install my package with the new plugin it says "/usr/lib/pinguino.so is diverted by package pinguino10", pinguino 11 is not installed18:27
Reagawhy does software get slower iwth more updates18:27
Reagashouldnt it be the oher way around18:27
OpenIndianaVboxcristian__: you shouldn't mix debian packages with ubuntu18:28
cristian__it's an upgrade18:28
usr13Reaga: What software is getting slower?18:28
d70does anybody know what is "IRQ: 0.99 No irq handler for vector (-1)" ?18:29
cristian__is there a way to divert the new one file ?18:29
isopovHello, I have the following in my dmesg - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225032/ - does this mean that ACPI is not used and thats why lm-sensors don't work?18:29
ianpOpenIndianaVbox: is there a good way to convert or migrate them?18:29
usr13Reaga: I'll tell you one thing for sure:  If you install an operating system from 7 or 8 years ago, it would seem really fast, but a lot less functional.18:29
ianpOpenIndianaVbox: any good tips on documentation for this, is it in ubuntu documentation? (package management, etc)18:30
cristian__ok googleis my friens as ever18:30
cristian__bye guys18:30
win7usrhey if i create an live usb ubuntu and run will it detects my wirless18:30
ianpspecifically, i have a problem where there is a listed dep., but i can't find it anywhere.. maybe i have to make it myself18:30
usr13win7usr: Possibly18:30
usr13win7usr: Try it and see.18:30
ianpwin7usr: why wouldn't it?18:30
ianpas long as you have fairly common components, it should work18:31
ianpi.e. not some strange obscure wireless device with rare custom drivers18:31
usr13win7usr: See there?  (Even ianp doesn't have a crystal ball.)18:31
b0otIt seems like there are tools that can do the delayed delievery, the problem is having the servers replicate all data between each other and having a method for users to contact the closest server to update18:33
ubunnytuIn short: Is it possible to customize the guest account?18:33
b0otLooking for a piece of  server software that can allow messaging/files transfer from user to one or more users on a private LAN (no net access). These servers will be going on and offline frequently and so will the users, so if the user goes offline the messages they missed will be sent to them when they log back on. The users will connect to the closest server when they logon to get any missed messages. If servers get disconnected from one another when th18:33
b0otey get connected again all messages will be synced and replicated.18:33
usr13ubunnytu: Sure, from the original one.18:34
Troy^hello where do i disable the locking of my desktop when inactive can't find it in unity?18:34
usr13Troy^: screesnaver configs18:34
ubunnytuusr13: how can it be done?18:34
Reagahelp me18:34
usr13ubunnytu: I'm assuming you want to add more rights?  edit /etc/group18:35
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ubunnytuusr13: I'd like to change the UI text size, visible program icons etc.18:37
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bazhangubottu, lag18:38
usr13ubunnytu:  Are you using Unity or Gnome Classic?  or....?18:40
ubunnytuusr13: oh sorry forgot to mention.... Ubuntu 12.04 desktop18:40
usr13ubunnytu: install gconf-editor18:42
ubunnytuusr13: iḿ on it...18:43
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ubunnytuusr13: it is installed18:44
usr13use it18:44
usr13ubunnytu: Or, if you are in uinty use MyUnity18:44
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usr13ubunnytu: http://www.ntlug.org/Articles/CustomizeUbuntu18:45
sremie89Every time I want to type a (double) quote I have to press an extra space before it appears, how to turn this off?18:45
usr13sremie89: Is the Shift key working?18:46
ubunnytuusr13: not sure if that answers my question... the guest account is reset on every login, how can I make stable changes to it18:46
sremie89Yeah, itś just that when I type a (double) quote it won appear unless I press space. So when I type a double quote and immediately afterwards type an a I get this ä18:47
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit18:47
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kingnebexhi guys18:48
usr13sremie89: Have you messed with the settings in "System Settings...-->Keyboard" and then clicking on Layout Settings?18:48
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sremie89Every time I want to type a (double) quote I have to press an extra space before it appears. But if I type let's say an a immediately after pressing double quotes I get this ä18:49
kingnebexim looking for the best web developed program that will work in ubuntu 12.04 lts..can any 1 help me with some ideas?18:49
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EvdbGuys, my head is about to explode and I'm literally getting sick, I need someone with a Mac and Ubuntu18:49
jribEvdb: just ask your question18:50
usr13kingnebex: Lots of folks are using CMS'es like drupal and joomla18:50
kingnebex@<usr13> is it like dream weaver?18:51
EvdbI did that freaking 20 times here now, can someone just tell me if you're using Mac, otherwise there's no sense in typing it for the hunrdeth time18:51
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usr13kingnebex: But if you just want a basic wisiwig html editor, try bluefish.18:51
bazhang!html | kingnebex18:51
ubottukingnebex: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya (Hardy or earlier) - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+ - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/18:51
jribEvdb: you should just copy and paste it18:51
EvdbI'm exhausted and just need to get this to work for school18:52
EvdbI can't boot from cd in refit18:52
jribEvdb: so the first step is to ask a question.18:52
EvdbIt gives windows and efi18:52
DrCodehi all18:52
dontknowwow amazon suggestions in dash? really great!18:52
usr13kingnebex: No, drupal and joomla are Content Management Systems, see drupal.org or joomla.org or http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html18:52
EvdbNeither of them worj18:52
jrib!ot | dontknow18:52
ubottudontknow: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:52
DrCodehow can I update my clock to jeruslam?18:52
jribEvdb: try to ask your question on one line18:53
EvdbI always get black screen and cursor before even getting to boot menu18:53
kingnebex<bazhang>i just want to build up websites thats all18:53
jribEvdb: you can't get to the live ubuntu system?18:53
dontknowjrib, great!18:53
bazhangkingnebex, so try one of those listed18:53
usr13DrCode: Click on the System menu on the top panel, go into the Administration sub-menu, and click on Time and Date.18:54
DrCodethank you18:54
DrCodeit worked18:54
dontknowjrib, will the dash send every query you type?18:55
jribdontknow: you can ask technical questions about 12.10 features in #ubuntu+1; this channel only supports released versions of ubuntu18:55
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit18:56
kingnebex<bazhang> have u been getting problems with ur ubuntu 12.04 lately or since installed?18:57
ubunnytumy microwave just blew a fuse which caused my internet to disconnect... could not receive any messages in the last 10 minutes18:57
EvdbOkay listen: I burnt 64 bit ubuntu to cd, slowest speed and checked the box to check the stuff. When I start up my MacBook in refit i see a linix and legacy os. Neiher of them will go further than black screen with white blinking cursor. I'm exhausted sick and need to get this working for school. My sleep is suffering from it and the ubuntu JUST WON'T work ... I tried live usb, but after first boot of installed ubuntu i got kernel panic18:58
jribEvdb: you need to hold down some sort of key combination to boot from a cd in a mac I believe18:58
ubunnytuHere's another try: Ubuntu 12.04, how can one make customizations to guest account persistent?18:58
usr13Evdb: I don't know about Apple stuff, but I wonder if the alternate-CD would be of any use to you?  Anyone?18:59
usr13ubunnytu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156607819:01
* Evdb sighs19:02
EvdbIs my connection death?19:02
PiciEvdb: no. freenode is having some network issues though.19:02
EvdbJerib: yeah I tried that19:03
EvdbNo succes19:03
EvdbAlways get the black screen with the cursor19:03
OpenIndianaVbox!nomodeset | Evdb19:04
ubottuEvdb: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:04
EvdbThe live usb worked but first boot gave kernel panic timer yaddyadda19:04
ubunnytuusr13: Thank you very much!19:04
EvdbI can't choose nomodeset because inonly get the black screen19:04
jribEvdb: so you've never actually managed to boot from the cd?19:05
CarlFKbroadcom bcm4312 wifi - doesn't seem to work out of the box.  is there a package for it?19:05
EvdbJrib: indeed19:05
jribCarlFK: check jockey-gtk for the STA driver19:05
CarlFKjrib: thainks19:06
jribEvdb: but does your computer try to (after holding down whatever the keyboard shortcut is)?19:06
EvdbYeah I hear it spinning but get the endless black screen with blinking white cursor19:06
jribEvdb: then the alternate cd suggestion from someone earlier might me a way to go19:07
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EvdbI could try that19:07
Fyodorovna!broadcom | CarlFK  as well this wiki19:08
ubottuCarlFK  as well this wiki: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx19:08
EvdbCan someone link the laternate thing?19:09
ubottuThe Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal19:09
OpenIndianaVbox!alternate | Evdb19:09
ubottuEvdb: please see above19:09
sremie89Every time I want to type a (double) quote I have to press an extra space before it appears. But if I type let's say an a immediately after pressing double quotes I get this ä19:12
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LordOfLightwhats up with the flood bot fun here?19:14
PiciLordOfLight: floodbots don't like netsplits19:14
LordOfLightheh. I guess I wasnt planning on one19:14
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MarcoFewhy this guy?19:15
KsM[Why are there 3 flood bots that all set the same modes?]19:15
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PiciKsM: because thats how they work, but when there are netsplits and other ping craziness happens they get confused.19:15
mstentaThis may not be the right room, but I'm seeing something really weird in my Ubuntu server: duplicate files in the same directory. They are white, while all the other files are purple, when I run ls -al.  I can't delete them, because they "don't exist", but a PHP script I'm running won't overwrite them because it thinks they're there. How can this be?19:16
EvdbBurning 32 bit now19:16
EvdbPlease fingers crossed19:16
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Sokelmstenta: Go to single user mode or boot a system rescue disc and delete them.19:17
UhAnyone have any network cracking experience?19:20
mstentaSokel: thanks! I just figured out I can remove them by their inode numbers19:21
UhAnyone at all?19:21
calwigi use wget for downloading19:21
calwighow can you resume download without downloading duplicate19:21
jribcalwig: wget -c19:22
_Trullowhy is my screen bigger than the actual screen? how do I fix this? also, it says some 72" screen, but I have a 60" screen, how do I get that right?19:24
Guest7570my download folder on my home folder are just gone19:24
Guest7570i don't know how this happens i didn't delete19:24
jribGuest7570: maybe you changed your language?19:25
Guest7570jrib, nope19:25
Guest7570jrib, some days ago my files in download folder are gone automattically19:26
OpenIndianaVboxGuest7570: ls -a19:26
Guest7570how could this happens19:26
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servet_demirOzHi all! :)19:30
fluitfrieshi all, can default Ubuntu or derivatives browse a cell phone (motorola) via usb cable?19:30
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servet_demirOzHow can i update the Ubuntu 12.04 from terminal? (i need exatly the same proces that Updfate Manager does).19:31
zykotick9servet_demirOz: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"19:31
servet_demirOz zykotick9: first thank you! what is differences of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" vs "sudo apt-get upgrade"19:32
zykotick9servet_demirOz: dist-upgrade upgrades EVERYTHING.  upgrade doesn't19:32
OpenIndianaVbox!dist-upgrade | servet_demirOz19:32
ubottuservet_demirOz: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.19:32
bazhang!dist-upgrade | servet_demirOz19:32
servet_demirOzbazhang zykotick9 : thank you! :)19:33
mrm2mI found a small bug in the libfuse-dev package. There are non compiling examples. I've got a bugfix. Where and how should I report that?19:40
jrib!bug | mrm2m19:41
ubottumrm2m: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.19:41
jribmrm2m: #ubuntu-bugs can help you as well19:41
carmine46. H . E . L . L . O . #ubuntu . H . E . L . L . O .19:43
ubottucarmine46: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».19:43
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ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!19:44
CiscoNinjagood day everyone, can someone please assist me. running precise everytime i boot my laptop i get crash report for /usr/bin/blueman-applet19:44
CiscoNinjai am using a bluetooth mouse them little one you by from costco19:44
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mrm2mjrib, ubottu: thanks.19:45
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trapnidoes anyone know about debian package creations? -- where do I find exact documentation about the file debian/rules and debian/control?19:48
TuoNick. H . E . L . L . O . #ubuntu . H . E . L . L . O .19:48
ikoniaTuoNick: please don't do that19:48
eXile_Im trying to install php5-imagick but I keep getting: php5-imagick : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.17-1~dotdeb.0) but 5.4.6-2~precise+1 is to be installed, I have spent a significant time googling but havent really found a solution, do I have to downgrade the php-common package or something?19:48
arnotixejrib, hi thanks that tightvncserver on remote then connect to the resulting desktop works.19:49
jribarnotixe: cool19:49
jribeXile_: you should get rid of whatever unofficial crud it is that you have installed19:49
eXile_jrib I wasnt aware it was unoffical19:50
eXile_can you point me in the rigth direction19:50
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jribeXile_: dotdeb isn't supported19:50
jribeXile_: you should get rid of it, it's what is causing your issues19:51
Guido1hello, i have a littleproblem wit xubuntu, which i just instaled. i don't have sound any more19:51
eXile_how do I go about doing that? sorry for the newb quesiton19:51
eXile_and have it install the right version19:52
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jribeXile_: the easiest way is for you to just remove the packages and then install them again19:53
eXile_which would be php5 php5-common php5-cli ?19:54
jribeXile_: at least, yeah19:55
jilebedevHi, I have a file.ext that is owned by root and is 755 permissions. When I run `sudo cmd >> file.ext`, I get a permission error. Why is that? Doesn't sudo apply to the output redirection as well? How do I get around this?20:01
zykotick9jilebedev: redirect could be issue for sudo, check out the use of "tee"20:02
naxilis possible set the bandwith to eth1?20:03
naxilthe max bandwith20:03
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ni1sjilebedev, try sudo $(cmd >> file.ext)20:03
genii-aroundnaxil: Look into tc20:03
naxilgenii-around,  what is tc?20:05
genii-aroundnaxil: Stands for Traffic Control, part of iproute package20:05
naxilfor run it'20:06
naxilsorry iam noob20:06
BebopSteveIs anyone familiar with docky config files?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky20:06
naxilhello janos20:06
naxilmy real name is janos20:06
naxilgenii-around,  i can set the bandwith max with tc?20:07
mbeierl_I've started a VNC session on :1 (Ubuntu 11.10), running metacity instead of unity, but when I connect to the virtual desktop, the "d" key acts as if it were "meta-D" and it minimizes all the windows.  Does anyone know what controls this behaviour?20:07
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calwigdoes anyone know "wget" commands? to where I can continue a previous download?20:09
genii-aroundnaxil: Yes, but i do not have time at the moment to explain how tc works20:09
ni1scalwig, wget -c20:09
mbeierl_naxil, check out wondershaper for information on how tc can be used to limit speeds: http://lartc.org/wondershaper/  It's also in the repos as 'wondershaper'20:09
BluesKajwget usually puts the file in ~/Downloads  ...you can find the page in your browser history , but you'll have to search for the actual wget url ...you could try going back with arrow key in the terminal to find it as well , calwig20:12
mbeierl_BluesKaj, wget goes into ~/Downloads?  It goes into the current directory unless you explicitly give it a name to use20:13
BluesKajmbeierl_, perhaps i changed the default path , and I've forgotten20:14
mbeierl_BluesKaj, I know that web browsers keep a default path that they use, but wget - that's the command line utility, no?20:16
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GlenUKwhy would my /tmp folder become locked? (become read only) - it is not mounted on any special partition (only have one) and the other folders on the partition are not locked. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225290/20:16
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mbeierl_BluesKaj, not attempting to nit-pick, just making sure i know which util was being talked about20:16
BluesKajmbeierl_, yes it's a cli utlity ,but works well20:17
OpenIndianaVboxmbeierl_: yes, wget is commandline downloader20:17
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mbeierl_GlenUK, pastebin the output of "mount", please20:17
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mbeierl_GlenUK, also check the output of 'dmesg' to see if there are any disk errors and the OS put the filesystem into read-only mode to prevent damage20:18
GlenUKmbeierl_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225297/20:19
|Anthony|any help here please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206224520:19
OpenIndianaVbox!here | |Anthony|20:19
ubottu|Anthony|: Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com20:19
mbeierl_GlenUK, I don't like that last line of the mount cmd output: mount: warning: /etc/mtab is not writeable (e.g. read-only file-system)  That typically means your / filesystem had an error and the whole thing has gone read-only20:20
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|Anthony|OpenIndianaVbox, I've been *trying* to get multiseat and pulseaudio to play nice together. the details of which are found in the forum post i linked... which is why i posted the link instead of the question.20:20
mbeierl_GlenUK, I should add: it means "/" went that way, as /etc/ and /tmp are all on the / filesystem according to the mount output you shared20:21
GlenUKis there any way to disable the join leave notifivations in Empathy?20:21
Guest68486Could anyone help me set up mythtv I opend the backend and its asking for a username and password and I dont know either!!20:21
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SajanWhat is the current, actively developed, support way to share media to a Xbox 360?20:21
xanguaGlenUK: i would try a dedicated irc client, empathy is Very limited for irc20:21
OpenIndianaVbox|Anthony|: sorry, i was making the point that if you gave a brief overview here then people know what problem you are linking to20:21
zykotick9!upnp | Sajan i'd start here.20:22
ubottuSajan i'd start here.: To stream media to other UPNP aware devices (such as the Xbox, PS3, or iRadio) you need a UPNP server. See !info mediatomb for information regarding the MediaTomb package20:22
OpenIndianaVbox|Anthony|: they would be more likely to look at your link then20:22
GlenUKmbeierl_: i cannot get the full output of dmesg, can i pipe that to a text file?20:23
|Anthony|OpenIndianaVbox, i appreciate the suggestion. lol most people shy away from helping with multiseat issues as it is *non-standard* usage20:23
Sajanzykotick9, cool.  thanks.20:23
GlenUKxangua: i am thinking the same :)20:23
daniel__hi someone knows why getting started arduino ?20:23
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mbeierl_GlenUK, you can try "dmesg | less" and then hit the space bar to go through page at a time20:25
Sajanzykotick9, It looks as if MediaTomb project has gone inactive for a couple years.  Off the top of your head, are there any other UPnP servers that you'd recommend?20:25
cloudyHello - I installed openconnect in order to connect to a cisco vpn service, but when I try to create a new vpn item it only gives me pptp. I am running 12.0420:26
mbeierl_GlenUK, you can also type "/dev/sdb6" in the20:26
mbeierl_GlenUK, less command and it will search for dev/sdb6 one occurence at a time.  Hit / again to search for the next occurrence20:27
zykotick9Sajan: sorry, i don't use upnp.  good luck.20:27
cloudyI should add "in the network manager220:27
cloudyI should add "in the network manager"20:27
GlenUKmbeierl_: let me grab a better irc client, getting bogged down with join/leave spam :)20:27
genii-around!info ushare20:28
ubottuushare (source: ushare): lightweight UPnP A/V Media Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1a-0ubuntu7 (precise), package size 51 kB, installed size 182 kB20:28
cloudy!info openconnect20:29
ubottuopenconnect (source: openconnect): Open client for Cisco AnyConnect VPN - binaries. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.15-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 155 kB, installed size 1002 kB20:29
mbeierl_cloudy, have you also installed the network-manager-openconnect-gnome?20:29
|Anthony|How can i set up pulseaudio in a system-wide instance and have localhost users connect to it20:29
cloudymbeierl_, thank you :)20:30
mbeierl_cloudy, one installs the vpn capabilities itself, the -gnome one installs the GUI to configure it20:30
GlenUKmbeierl_: ok i cannot install software atm :)20:30
mbeierl_cloudy, glad it helped, then.  Been there done that with other vpn software plugins20:30
GlenUKmbeierl_: 'dmesg | less /dev/sdb6' ?20:30
mbeierl_GlenUK, you will not be able to install or modify the system at all until it is fixed20:31
mbeierl_GlenUK, sorry, no.  'dmesg | less' then, when you get the first page, "/" starts entering a "search for" command20:31
intraderAnyone, I have a usb drive that I just formatted with Gparted to ext4. The drive mounts with label Backup and contents lost+found. The Deja backup tool does not see the drive:'Waiting for "SanDisk Cruiser:Backup" to become connectsI don't knwo what I should do.20:31
cloudymbeierl_, :) - next issue - when I select the entry I created, I am not being asked for the user name and password - using rsa token20:31
mbeierl_GlenUK, so you want to look for entries relating to dev/sdb6, so "/" followed by "dev/sdb6" and hit enter20:32
arsimethallo an alle....20:32
GlenUKmbeierl_: not found20:32
mbeierl_cloudy, I'm not familiar with the prompts or credentials that openconnect requires.  Are there additional tabs or pop-ups in the gui?20:32
mbeierl_GlenUK, try "grep '/dev/sdb' /var/log/syslog" ?20:33
cloudymbeierl_, only a tab for IP addressing20:33
cloudymbeierl_, the log shows that I am connecting to the right URL. The logs show "Please enter your username and password." But it never gives me any prompt to enter that information.20:34
GlenUKmbeierl_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225328/20:34
mbeierl_cloudy, GlenUK - I am very sorry.  I need to run for a while :(20:35
GlenUKmbeierl_: ok :) thank you20:35
cloudymbeierl_, no worries. thank you20:35
mbeierl_np.  ciao for now!20:35
GlenUKCan anyone help me solve an issue with my hard drive locking? (maybe related to /tmp folder)20:36
AaronCampbellI had to remove Pulseaudio to get Skype audio to sound right.  Unfortunately it also removed the volume icon/control from the panel.  Is there an alternative that I can install to get that control back up there?20:36
intraderThe Storage tab shows two selections with name Backup. When I chose annother 'Backup', it finds it too small. The drive has 14.7 GB and what I am backing up has less that 10GB.20:37
compdocGlenUK, what do you mean locking?20:38
eXile_I keep getting dependency issues when trying to install php5-imagick, I have removed the packages and erinstalled them even done an upgrade and I still get the same issue: php5-imagick : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.17-1~dotdeb.0) but 5.4.6-2~precise+1 is to be installed any suggestions on how to fix it20:38
GlenUKcompdoc: I tried installing a large application and it crashed, here is the message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225290/20:39
GlenUKcompdoc: Now I cannot install anything so I feel the whole partition is locked now20:39
compdocGlenUK, when hard drives have issues, its mounted as read-only. Open the Disk utility, and check the crive's health20:40
jribeXile_: same answer as before20:40
eXile_I did remove them20:40
eXile_and reisntalled them20:40
eXile_and I get the same issue20:40
FloodBot1eXile_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:40
eXile_so obviosuly I didnt do it right or something else is broken20:41
jribeXile_: do you still have the dotdeb repositories enabled...?20:41
eXile_well thats probably the problem20:41
eXile_where do I remove them20:41
jribeXile_: how did you add it?20:41
GlenUKcompdoc: i assume i am going to need to restart: Device is mounted and no online capability in fsck tool for file system20:41
eXile_I have no idea, I didnt20:42
jribeXile_: who did?20:42
compdocGlenUK, what does Disk Utility say about the drive's health?20:42
eXile_this is a vanillia install form the datacenter I got the server from20:42
jribeXile_: complain to them then20:42
eXile_ok thanks20:43
intraderIt appears that usb drive with volume name Backup has no file system? I am unable to create anything on it. Maybe that is the reason Deja can't find space for backup20:43
GlenUKcompdoc: Overall assessment: Disk has a few bad sectors. further down i see: Current Pending Sector Count..... Number of sectors waiting to be remapped: 220:43
ElesaWhat's the best Adobe After Effects alternative for Ubuntu?20:43
jackylanternnew here20:43
compdocGlenUK, thats the problem. Can you click the button to open the SMART info, and read how many bad secotrs>?20:43
jackylanternanyone know a good chaneel?20:44
GlenUKcompdoc: 220:44
OpenIndianaVbox!ot | jackylantern20:44
ubottujackylantern: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:44
compdocnot Current Pending Sectors, but Reallocated sectors20:44
GlenUKcompdoc: 020:44
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MonkeyDust!equivalent > Elesa20:45
ubottuElesa, please see my private message20:45
WeThePeoplejackylantern, do you have a ubuntu related question?20:45
compdocGlenUK, hmm, well, pending sectors mean that the drive had problems reading/writing, but it might not actaully be the drive - could be power issues, or something else. In any case, when you start having bad sectors, and the number starts to grow, its time for a new drive. You should backup your data in the mean time20:46
MonkeyDustElesa  there's also http://www.linuxalt.com/ and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software20:47
compdocGlenUK, and yeah, I think you just need to reboot20:47
GlenUKcompdoc: is there anything i can do in the mean time? perform a disk check maybe?20:47
compdocGlenUK, there are tests to run in Disk Util20:47
compdocSMART tests20:47
compdocshort and long20:47
GlenUKcompdoc ty20:48
compdocgood luck with that20:48
ElesaThanks, MonkeyDust! :D20:48
intraderI have a USB drive that I formatted with Gparted. It shows lost-found and 14.7 GB of space. However I can't create any folders or files in the drive.20:49
alecbI tried to compile my own wifi kernel drivers and install them as per instructions on some askubuntu thread -- is there a way to ensure that the drivers being used are actually the ones I compiled?20:49
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catalinbHello. I'm developing a qt application - what is the easiest way to detect whether global menu is being used?20:50
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LorraHey everybody! I just discovered this peace of beauty called lolcat which can output files on your console written in a awesome rainbow-coloured font. Now I would like to have all of my output like that, does anybody have a clue on how to do that??20:53
jribLorra: that's quite amusing...20:54
jribLorra: maybe #bash can offer advice20:54
Lorrajrib, it's totally amusing, you should try that!20:54
intraderAnyone, I need to perform a backup. I have a USB drive that I formatted with Gparted. It shows lost-found and 14.7 GB of space. However I can't create any folders or files in the drive.20:55
Seveasecho jrib | figlet | lolcat20:56
* jrib updates his motd20:56
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MonkeyDustintrader  rsync -avv ~ [destination] copies home to the usb drive20:58
MonkeyDustintrader  make that rsync -- progress -avv ~ [destination]20:58
ylereHi, it seems that my linux file system got corrupted. I repaired it with fsck but now it seems that some files are missing and I get a kernel panic during boot. I have a separate /home partition and everything is fine there. Is it possible to chroot into the file system and reinstall all system files?20:58
Seveasylere, in theory yes, unless it's too damaged20:59
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ylere@Seveas: What command do I need to run after the chroot?21:00
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Seveasylere, boot from a live cd, get a root terminal, mount the drive, chroot into it and run this: dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall21:00
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ylereSeveas, okay, thanks! I will try this...21:01
Seveasthe awk filters out just the installed packages21:01
micah_can someone peleeeease help me with a recordmydesktop issue?21:01
Seveasylere, now, if your system is too damaged for the chroot to succeed, you'll have a more difficult time21:01
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witakrHello good people.21:04
ylereSeveas, lets hope it works. I do not understand how this happened anyway. Suddenly the partition was mounted read-only. I didn't even noticed it for quite some time because everything was running fine (including a virtual machine), until an application tried to access /tmp.21:04
Troy^i cant seem to find the option in unity to prevent locking my computer after inactivity?21:05
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MASTERPIECEhow to play euro truck simulator on ubuntu21:07
bmallredTroy^: are you talking about the setting under "Brightness and Lock"?21:07
Ramonehey all... can anyone recommend a tool for listing a disk's largest files in order?21:07
Troy^thank you bmallred21:07
bmallredTroy^: not a problem21:08
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash21:08
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ubottugiuseppefederico: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».21:10
intraderAnyone, I need to perform a backup. I have a USB drive that I formatted with Gparted. It shows lost-found and 14.7 GB of space. However I can't create any folders or files in the drive. I have followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422114 without result21:10
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:10
witakrI know this is not directly related to ubuntu but I don't know where else to ask where I might get a response. Can someone help me in setting up my DSL modem and router to allow my media server to access via the internet? FYI: It is for personal use only. I am wanting to be able to access my DVD collection from my phone. i have all that done via Plex but for some reason plex is not able to reach my server and everything I have21:10
witakrfound so far points to the issue being with my modem and/or router.21:10
jose__esto no hay quién lo entienda !!!21:11
ylereRamone, try boabab or gdmap21:11
jose__vaya lioooo !!21:11
witakrMy plex server is seemingly set up correctly because I can access my movies and watch them when my phone is connected via wifi to my home network but via the internet is another story21:12
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vividanyone know how to remove the apps/music purchasing from the dash?21:14
vividi really dont use linux for the advertisements21:14
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genii-aroundvivid: You are using 12.10 ?21:16
thedeadHi all. I'm trying to jail a media streamer with chroot but I always chrooted only simple things (like ssh, bash (strange..yeah...strange), and so on). the streamer in question is in java so i chrooted bash, java and dpkg and i installed the program in the chrooted env. Now i have a doubt: how can i execute it at the boot? I can setup a startup script in rc but i don't know what to write. This streamer will be used as a serv21:16
thedeadice and it need to bind a socket and to perform rw operations on the real fs.21:16
vividgenii-around, no, using precise21:17
Core_UKHello I ran the command sudo e2fsck -cfpv /dev/sdb2 expecting to start seeing some output, but do not see anything yet? after 15 mins, is that normal?:)21:17
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vividgenii-around, i found the apps, but i want to remove the music available for purchase and the online videos sections..21:17
intraderAccording to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422114 I should be able to create folders and files in a usb drive that I formatted with Gpartd as Ext 4 (it has 14.7 GB) with label Backup. As the fstab was modified on reboot it wants the drive to be available. What else can I do to make the udb drive accessible to Deja backup?21:18
Al_hi everyone21:19
Al_This might sound crazy21:19
Al_but I have a major problem relating ubuntu21:19
IdleOnevivid: You can remove unity-lens-music but I believe that will also remove the ability to search for music locally.21:20
Al_can someone offer some help pls?21:20
witakrAl_, can you elaborate?21:20
IdleOnevivid: search for music via dash that is21:20
vividIdleOne, yeah, i dont want to do that, just want to disable the available for purchase section21:20
vividso....when i search for a song, i dont want it to advertise21:20
intraderAccording to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422114 I should be able to create folders and files in a usb drive that I formatted with Gpartd as Ext 4 (it has 14.7 GB) with label Backup. As the fstab was modified on reboot it wants the drive to be available. What else can I do to make the udb drive accessible to Deja backup?I have removed the fstab entries so that can reboot.21:20
Al_yes witakr21:21
IdleOnevivid: #ubuntu-unity may be of more help, and technically they are not ads but search results. anyway, #ubuntu-unity21:21
witakrAl_, Ok... What specific problems are you having?21:21
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Al_boot up21:21
Al_ubuntu wont boot21:21
Al_and I've erased windows 7 off my computer21:21
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Core_UKHello I ran the command sudo e2fsck -cfpv /dev/sdb2 expecting to start seeing some output, but do not see anything yet? after 15 mins, is that normal?:)21:21
MonkeyDustAl_  start from the beginning, what were you doing and what went wrong -- in 1 line please21:22
witakrAl_,  OK is it giving you any messages or errors or something to that effect which you might think is relevant to your problem?21:22
Al_it just goes to a purple screen21:22
Al_or sometimes21:22
Al_it says panic something21:23
Al_I don't wanna come across like an idiot21:23
Al_but I am really new to this21:23
witakrAl_, How many times have you tried booting ubuntu?21:23
Al_many times21:23
Al_I am now running kubuntu21:23
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Al_which would only work on live mode21:23
Al_off my USB21:24
Al_any ideas?21:24
witakrAl_, Ok something may have gone awry during the install. What version were you trying to install?21:24
_XMENDEShey guys. im trying to use USHARE but my files.avi are not visible on WDTV live.21:24
Al_the latest one21:24
_XMENDESit found the folders, but not the .avi files21:24
witakrAl_, Ok.. were you trying to install from a cd or live USB?21:25
Al_live USB21:25
Core_UKHello I ran the command sudo e2fsck -cfpv /dev/sdb2 expecting to start seeing some output, but do not see anything yet? after 15 mins, is that normal?:)21:25
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witakrAl_, Did you create the live USB using Windows? 7? xp? or another system?21:26
Al_I used vista21:26
Al_which I have on an older laptop21:26
intraderAnyone, According to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422114 I should be able to create folders and files in a usb drive that I formatted with Gpartd as Ext 4 (it has 14.7 GB) with label Backup. As the fstab was modified on reboot it wants the drive to be available. What else can I do to make the udb drive accessible to Deja backup?I have removed the fstab entries so that can reboot.21:26
witakrAl_, Ok how did you create the Live USB? what live USB creator did you use?21:26
witakrAl_, Ok the machine you're trying to install ubuntu on.. can you give me some detail about it? such as make and model and any changes in hardware you have made such as did you upgrade your video or sound cards.. things of that sort.. be specific on the make and model so i can find it21:29
Al_it's an advent Roma/ intel celeron c90021:30
Al_memory: 3072MB DDR2 RAM21:30
Al_Hard Drive 250 GB21:30
daemonhey all; im getting an error whenb I try to start exim21:30
daemonExim configuration error in line 141 of /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.tmp "\n" user mailnull was not found21:30
daemon^ whats going on21:31
daemonthe "\n" is meant to be a real zn jsut wanted to compress it onto one line21:31
* eamon is listening to キセキはじまり☆ by 達見 恵 featured by 佐野宏晃21:32
_XMENDEShey guys. im trying to use USHARE but my files.avi are not visible on WDTV live. anyone can help me?21:32
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Al_witakr did you get that?21:33
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witakrAl_, Ok there should be a model number on case by the trackpad or on the screen bezel can you din that for me... if not then look for the sticker on the underside and you should see s/n and model numbers.. i just need the model number21:33
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Al_witakr did you get that?21:34
grimetonsomeone else seeing very bad i/o performance with the lts kernel?21:36
_XMENDESanyone knows ushare? i trying to see my files on cellphone and dont works to21:38
_XMENDESonly appears the folders :/21:38
viashimoin both chrome and firefox listen buttons don't work. flash (eg. youtube) is fine. thoughts or suggestions?21:39
rbrookshaving problems caht on my ubuntu21:40
* eamon is listening to キセキはじまり☆ on pop'n music 19 TUNE STREET original soundtrack by 達見 恵 featured by 佐野宏晃 (2011)21:40
k1leamon: would you mind to stop that script for the #ubuntu support channel?21:41
eamonk k1l21:41
rbrookshe is donig this?21:42
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k1l!netsplit > rbrooks21:43
ubotturbrooks, please see my private message21:43
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rbrooksWTF ?  ok21:45
widithhi, does root have read write execute priveleges on files they are not the owners of?21:46
* genii-around kicks at FloodBot321:48
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xinewidith: yes21:51
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PyroN00BI have a bug report, if there are any Ubuntu developers in the room.21:54
MonkeyDust !bug21:55
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.21:55
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VlanZhi there21:55
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VlanZanyone can help me to figure out how to write a simple scrit to perform a write on a external USB drive that powers down every 15 mins if idle so i can keep it up?21:56
xrealWhere has ubuntu.de/ubuntu-de gone?21:56
xrealARGH, my fault21:56
rufsketch1Hello everyone21:57
rufsketch1how can I install 32-bit nvidia drivers on 64-bit ubuntu?21:58
GregoryFentonVlanZ, #!/bin/bash  while true; do echo 1 > /mnt/yourdrive/tmpfile; sleep 900; done21:59
VlanZGregoryFenton: sorry for my ignorance, but how do i make this script to run at startup?22:00
muellisoftwell VlanZ. I believe the real solution would involve telling the hardware to not shutdown. Check whether hdparm gives you relevant options.22:00
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VlanZmuellisoft: the usb drive enclosure seems to ignore any setting like that22:01
GregoryFentonVlanZ, crontab -e   add a new line at the bottom: @reboot /path/to/script22:01
goddardDid you know you can have a conversation with yourself22:02
Kingsyguys, atm I am using the open radeon driver. It works just great but its an old version. How difficult is it to upgrade it to the latest?22:02
Kingsyif anyone in here is using that driver?22:03
EstragonI was an issue with my ubuntu server, sometimes server CPU & RAM goes to 100% and ssh / httpd / services doesnt respond anymore22:03
VlanZGregoryFenton: thanks, i'll try that out :)22:03
Estragonforcing a hard reboot22:03