[00:00] <nosetto> q
[00:00] <nosetto> 3.1415*
[00:00] <LazerChicken> twitchie: ok so ive found that if i reboot with the card in it pushes the video through it ... but its glitchy flashes and i cant simply just plug into the onboard .. in order to see correctly i have to pull it out and reboot
[00:00] <nosetto> 3.14159
[00:00] <AmarokNelg> ugh, if desktop effects works with low fps, how could it not work with a 140 fps?
[00:01] <AmarokNelg> ive got a computer that uses 60 fps, and runs smooth on neverball, and works great with desktop affects
[00:01] <LazerChicken> so i am now setting with the card out on my desk ...can we pretend im trying to use it for the 1st time .. what is the prosedure?
[00:01] <hellslinger> AmarokNelg: I believe that GLX is running, but the rendering is happeing through software
[00:02] <hellslinger> Even a very old and basic opengl hardware card can do better than 140fps on glxgears
[00:02] <AmarokNelg> Oh btw, i didn't see anything about cpu on the document you gave me
[00:02] <hellslinger> look at page 10
[00:02] <hellslinger> sorry, page 13
[00:03] <hellslinger> "maximum cpu..."
[00:05] <AmarokNelg> yeah, then the document is wrong, cause even i get 100% cpu taken on a non-accelerated system
[00:05] <twitchie> LazerChicken: personally I would disable onboard and just run with the pci-e card if something goes wrong you can always reset you bios back to default via the switch/jumper on your motherboard
[00:07] <hellslinger> AmarokNelg: I don't. I have an old laptop with i915 graphics that doesn't use more than 2% cpu
[00:07] <hellslinger> AmarokNelg: What GPU do you have?
[00:08] <AmarokNelg> GPU?
[00:08] <hellslinger> yeah, what video card do you have?
[00:08] <AmarokNelg> oh
[00:09] <AmarokNelg> Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF
[00:09] <hellslinger> wow, that's an oooollldd card
[00:10] <hellslinger> what cpu do you have?
[00:10] <AmarokNelg> it had 3d acceleration... untill it resently got on the "Deprecated Systems and Drivers" list
[00:10] <hellslinger> that's at least a 10 year old card
[00:10] <AmarokNelg> i have an old computer too
[00:10] <AmarokNelg> cpu is only 1.6 GB of speed
[00:11] <AmarokNelg> Infact, it used to be pretty fast
[00:11] <hellslinger> what cpu is it?
[00:11] <AmarokNelg> Idk
[00:11] <hellslinger> k6-II 266 MHz? :)
[00:11] <AmarokNelg> All i know thats its 1.6 GB of speed
[00:12] <hellslinger> yeah you could probably upgrade that card for 10 dollars and get 3D acceleration back
[00:12] <AmarokNelg> ??????
[00:12] <AmarokNelg> how?
[00:13] <hellslinger> well if it is a PCI or AGP card, you could buy a replacement ATI HD series or NVidia 5xxx/6xxx PCI/AGP off ebay (old and used, of course)
[00:13] <hellslinger> for 10 or 20 dollars total cost
[00:13] <AmarokNelg> I also have a diamond card. Want me to use that? It only is 640x480 instead of 1280x1024!!
[00:14] <hellslinger> Diamond? wow that is really really old. That's probably a TNT/TNT2
[00:14] <AmarokNelg> altho, its missing...
[00:14] <hellslinger> That will not work on a modern linux system with good support
[00:14] <hellslinger> is your system a desktop?
[00:15] <AmarokNelg> yes :P
[00:16] <hellslinger> You could probably buy an entire new system for < $100 That was much much faster and had a supported video driver
[00:17] <AmarokNelg> Oh your kidding. Why the heck would i do that
[00:17] <AmarokNelg> After i fixed this system up
[00:17] <goddard> whats the thunderbird chat like?
[00:17] <goddard> anyone using it
[00:18] <blackshirt> amaroklng, is your graphic card support for 3d?
[00:18] <AmarokNelg> Used to be
[00:18] <hellslinger> AmarokNelg: Have it your way... But if you want supported 3D you'll have to get something that is less than 8 years old
[00:18] <AmarokNelg> ts on the deprecated list now
[00:19] <AmarokNelg> In 10 years from now, im sure id be using the old mesa drivers
[00:19] <hellslinger> I tried to get ubuntu 10 running with a GeForce 4400 ti and the drivers were no longer supported by the latest Xorg
[00:19] <hellslinger> and that card is only about 7 years old
[00:19] <AmarokNelg> infact, i should downgrade so this ill work right
[00:19] <blackshirt> amaroknelg, if your graphic was not capable to run 3d ....
[00:20] <AmarokNelg> blackshirt: :|
[00:20] <AmarokNelg> Ok ill be installin the old drivers
[00:20] <hellslinger> AmarokNelg: let me know if they work, I'm interested to see...
[00:21] <blackshirt> i think maybe better you stick with the suite one...i mean the old one...
[00:23] <AmarokNelg> unfortunly, to keep from upgrading th drivers automaticly (removing the gl support), ill have to pin it in synaptic
[00:24] <AmarokNelg> it would be fun if i could edit debian packages, that would make my life alot easyer on computers
[00:25] <blackshirt> amaroknelg,tehbically you can do it
[00:25] <AmarokNelg> really?
[00:25] <xorgnak> theyre always the cancerous growth.
[00:25] <blackshirt> tehnically
[00:26] <AmarokNelg> i should know how
[00:26] <AmarokNelg> I plan to make my own operating system based off of debian...
[00:26] <blackshirt> amaroknelg, what do you want to edit ?? Some meta data or bianry one?
[00:27] <blackshirt> amaroknelg, thats a great step
[00:27] <blackshirt> if you want to change binary, you sohould recompile it from sources
[00:28] <AmarokNelg> making a different package name... Like libgl1-mesa-dri-old
[00:28] <AmarokNelg> and the description for older videocard support or somethin lkie that
[00:29] <rileyp> question about vlc how is the tracklist order selected to play from a dir I thought it would work off the track number in the metadata?
[00:32] <tortib> Hello everyone
[00:32] <AmarokNelg> i cant downgrade my driver. It would remove X and its drivers
[00:32] <tortib> how can I see which packages I have installed? more specifically which driver version of the ATI drivers i'm running.
[00:32] <blackshirt> amaroknelg, you should learn related to debian packaging
[00:32] <AmarokNelg> driver version of the ATI drivers - really? check lspci
[00:33] <tortib> that doesn't tell me the driver version
[00:33] <blackshirt> amaroknelg, downgrade was not recommended
[00:33] <AmarokNelg> Oh
[00:33] <AmarokNelg> Srry
[00:33] <tortib> yeah...
[00:34] <AmarokNelg> xserver-xorg-video-r128
[00:34] <AmarokNelg> X.Org X server -- ATI r128 display driver
[00:34] <AmarokNelg> wait
[00:34] <AmarokNelg> thats if you have ati rage 128
[00:34] <tortib> yeah I don't have an xserver command
[00:34] <AmarokNelg> ??
[00:35] <tortib> I don't have the xserver command
[00:35] <AmarokNelg> ts suppost to be in your package manager
[00:35] <AmarokNelg> synaptic?
[00:35] <tortib> I'm running 3 ATI 6950s
[00:35] <tortib> i'm using a shell
[00:35] <tortib> is synaptic ncurses based?
[00:36] <tortib> doesn't look like it
[00:36] <L3top> tortib: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A3
[00:37] <AmarokNelg> do you want: xserver-xorg-video-r128 - X.Org X server -- ATI r128 display driver; xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI r5xx-r7xx alternate display driver; fglrx-driver - non-free ATI/AMD RadeonHD display driver; or xserver-xorg-video-r128 - X.Org X server -- ATI r128 display driver?
[00:37] <tortib> dpkg -l was the answer
[00:37] <defaultro> i finished installing the latest ubuntu. The internet is very slow
[00:37] <defaultro> i need to open terminal, where do I do it?
[00:37] <tortib> to show my what packages i have installed on my system
[00:37] <tortib> thanks for the help anyways
[00:37] <tortib> toodles
[00:37] <L3top> dpkg -l will not tell you the kernel in use TorpedoSkyline
[00:37] <L3top> tortib
[00:38] <TorpedoSkyline> lol L3top
[00:38] <L3top> and no... he would not want nor could he use that driver... sorry TorpedoSkyline autocomplete
[00:38] <L3top> he burned out
[00:39] <|Anthony|> what is happening regarding consolekit and udev having been merged into systemd?
[00:39] <TorpedoSkyline> no problem L3top =)
[00:40] <defaultro> hey folks, how do I open terminal?
[00:40] <javierf_> hi! In ubuntu 12.04 unity, if I open the dash, it opens but it's transparent, what make difficult to see all the icons with their names. In all the applications I know to configure that (MyUnity, Ubuntu Tweak) it is set to 0% opacity, but that's not what actually happens. I've been googling the bug, but nothing about it. Someone knows how to fix that? Thanks a lot!
[00:41] <|Anthony|> defaultro, open the dash and type terminal. it should come up in there
[00:42] <TreaverHoerig> Can someone do me a quick favor.
[00:43] <L3top> not without more information TreaverHoerig :P
[00:43] <TreaverHoerig> L3top are you on Ubuntu 12.04
[00:43] <L3top> I am on a lot of things.
[00:44] <L3top> I can get to an ubu precise if need be.
[00:44] <defaultro> ah, i have to type it :) trying it now
[00:44] <defaultro> what's the deefault root password
[00:44] <L3top> !root
[00:45] <L3top> There is no spoon.
[00:45] <TreaverHoerig> Is anyone here on Ubuntu 12.04 I need a few files from the Icons folder if someone could help.
[00:45] <mmediaman> Can anyone here answer a question about Adobe Flash Player Plugin?
[00:45] <L3top> !anyone
[00:46] <IdleOne> TreaverHoerig: why not boot a live cd a copy what you need
[00:46] <mmediaman> Why does Adobe Flash Plugin not seem to work in FireFox on Ununtu 12.04.  The symptom is just a black screen for all Flash windows.
[00:47] <TreaverHoerig> Can someone go to : /usr/share/icons and copy the Humanity folder, ubuntu-mono-dark, ubuntu-mono-light. Then upload them to dropbox or something.
[00:47] <toafan> My KDE install doesn't seem to have Alt+Space enabled by default, and after some poking around I still can't seem to find how to enable it.  Any ideas?
[00:48]  * n0sq wishes that they'd make mail servers easier to use
[00:49] <toafan> mmediaman: is it Firefox-only, or does flash work in other browsers?
[00:49] <L3top> TreaverHoerig: dpkg -L is your friend. Find the package the images are associated with, and download the package. .deb packages are simply ar compressed. you can extract their contents and do as you wish with them.
[00:49] <TreaverHoerig> L3top Idk how to do that. I just copied over the files trying to follow instructions to change the icons
[00:50] <TreaverHoerig> But it was for 12.10 and I didn't realize it
[00:50] <defaultro> something is wrong. I was able to acquire ip address from my wifi. However, it cannot ping it.
[00:50] <mmediaman> I haven't tried Flash from another browser, only FF that came with Ubuntu install.
[00:50] <L3top> mmediaman: how did you install flash?
[00:50] <toafan> mmediaman: what kind of system are you on?  I've got a box with the same symptom, but flash just doesn't work at all on that machine
[00:51] <mmediaman> Software Center and also tried using Flash-Aid
[00:51] <defaultro> LTS ubuntu during install saw my access point. It was able to acquire ip. netstat -rn shows the route and default gateway. HOwever, it cannot ping it :(
[00:51] <mmediaman> Machine is Dell Inspiron 1501 laptop.
[00:51] <AmarokNelg> bb
[00:52] <TreaverHoerig> Can someone please help me out and get me those 3 folders.
[00:52] <defaultro> pinging is also very intermittent, it responds with destination host unreachable and later it would respond
[00:52] <defaultro> something is wrong with the network driver :(
[00:52] <mmediaman> Strange thing also is that when I visit adobe.com to download Flash, there is no DOWNLOAD button anywhere to be found.
[00:52] <TreaverHoerig> mmediamn
[00:53] <L3top> # dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/cab_extract.png                        cabextract: /usr/share/icons/cab_extract.png root@dcerouter:/usr/share/icons# apt-cache policy cabextract         cabextract:      Installed: 1.2-3+lenny1build0.10.04.1
[00:53] <defaultro> what is wrong with Ubuntu? Anyone here knows how to troubleshoot network?
[00:53] <n0sq> mmediaman: i believe you need javascript enabled
[00:54] <L3top> !info cabextract
[00:54] <n0sq> defaultro: check ifconfig and route outputs
[00:54] <toafan> hmm...
[00:54] <toafan> !info kwin
[00:54] <TreaverHoerig> toafan
[00:55] <defaultro> n0sq, it looks fine
[00:55] <defaultro> wlan0 has an ip
[00:55] <defaultro> netstat -rn shows proper route
[00:55] <defaultro> now it is showing destination hhost unreachable
[00:55] <defaultro> it is so friggin weird
[00:55] <FloodBot1> defaultro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:55] <defaultro> :P
[00:55] <mmediaman> Wow, Thanks n0sq !   I would never have guessed that Javascript was required for Flash to work.
[00:55] <L3top> toafan: to peek into ubottus brain /msg ubottu !info thing-you-want
[00:55] <TreaverHoerig> defaultro do you have 12.04 LTS?
[00:55] <defaultro> yes
[00:55] <TreaverHoerig> Can you help me out?
[00:55] <defaultro> installed it 30 mins ago
[00:56] <defaultro> LOL, I have the one who has a problem
[00:56] <L3top> TreaverHoerig: you aren't paying attention. You can do this without people having to send you things.
[00:56] <defaultro> the interface of ubuntu is nice but not sure if I chose the right distro
[00:56] <L3top> TreaverHoerig: Do not hurrang people seeking support to help you do what you can do yourself, and learn a thing or two in the meantime... very easily.
[00:56] <defaultro> never had an issue with fedora
[00:57] <TreaverHoerig> Defaultro what do you need help with. L3top can you help me get the files back?
[00:57] <L3top> defaultro: Can you please describe what you are doing a bit better? The install did not reach network ootb having route?
[00:58] <mmediaman> @n0sq thanks!
[00:58] <n0sq> yw
[00:58] <defaultro> found a solution and hopefully it friggin works
[00:58] <defaultro> options ath9k nohwcrupt=1, not sure how my wife will figure this out! LOL
[00:59] <L3top> !info ubuntu-mono | TreaverHoerig
[00:59] <TreaverHoerig> Defaultro can you help me now? :)
[00:59] <TreaverHoerig> What does that do for me?
[00:59] <L3top> It is the package containing what you want.
[01:00] <devslash> i have a few tasks that I want to load at startup (like apache,mount hard drive etc). normally I have to do sudo to start these things. is there an easier way to have them autoload at startup
[01:00] <L3top> sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-mono
[01:00] <TreaverHoerig> How do I download it
[01:00] <|Anthony|> what is happening regarding consolekit and udev having been merged into systemd?
[01:00] <L3top> devslash: upstart programs launch with root priv.
[01:00] <TreaverHoerig> Sweet how do I get Humanity now?
[01:00] <devslash> how do i do that
[01:01] <L3top> TreaverHoerig: apt-cache search humanity
[01:01] <L3top> find the package you need... same instructions
[01:01] <Danno_> on Lubuntu is there a way to launch system settings via terminal as my system settings menu has disappeared
[01:01] <tortib> I just upgraded from natty narwhal 11.10 and i'm having some problems with my video driveres, they're not performing as well as they were before and I want to downgrade them to what I had before.
[01:01] <tortib> how can I go about doing that?
[01:01] <TreaverHoerig> Thanks(: You helped me and I learned a new command! :)
[01:02] <treaverhoerig_> (:
[01:02] <L3top> !downgrade
[01:02] <tortib> i don't want to downgrade the entire system
[01:02] <tortib> just the drivers for the video
[01:03] <L3top> tortib: what is the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[01:03] <mmediaman> Any opnions about how safe Ubuntu is from malicious website attacks or infection to a network that Ubuntu machine is connected to or via USB drive used to transfer stuff??
[01:03] <tortib> 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Cayman PRO [AMD Radeon 6900 Series] [1002:6719]
[01:03] <tortib> 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Cayman PRO [AMD Radeon 6900 Series] [1002:6719]
[01:03] <tortib> 0a:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Cayman PRO [AMD Radeon 6900 Series] [1002:6719]
[01:03] <toafan> tortib: maybe an older version of driver package?
[01:04] <drpoo> is it possible to mount an encrypted home folder from an external usb and NOT using a LiveCD??
[01:04] <L3top> ah... that was you... lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A3 | grep -i module
[01:04] <L3top> I only need one
[01:04] <tortib>         Kernel modules: fglrx, radeon
[01:05] <L3top> you dont have a module in use?
[01:05] <toafan> mmediaman: it'd depend on the type of attack.  For example, Ubuntu won't be any safer against javascript-based or 'phishing' attacks than Mac or Windows
[01:05] <garthk> Precise under Xen: after applying some updates, I can't boot because of problems with the pygrub parser. I can't boot into single user mode the way I have been, either. Any ideas? Boot failure log in Xen: https://raw.github.com/gist/7b860a6c684cbbae5dad/5dcb8dfb90291d56e6d922ef704ec67787d7a824/bootfail.log
[01:05] <tortib> fglrx is being used yes
[01:05] <L3top> tortib: lsmod | grep fglrx
[01:05] <tortib> L3top: fglrx is being used
[01:05] <tortib> i already ran lsmod
[01:05] <tortib> it's being used
[01:05] <Danno_> on Lubuntu is there a way to launch system settings via terminal as my system settings menu has disappeared
[01:05] <L3top> and you want to revert to radeon?
[01:05] <garthk> Failed attempted boot flags to get single user mode, which now just gets me the same grub error: -- quiet console=hvc0 partman/default_filesystem=ext3 rw init=/bin/bash
[01:05] <tortib> the thing is i want an older version
[01:06] <tortib> if that's what the older version is yes
[01:06] <woot-0854> how do you modify tty1-6 screensaver time?
[01:06] <crougier> hi i am trouble recovering my windows boot screen
[01:06] <toafan> mmediaman: Windows virus won't run on Ubuntu period, unless you 1) set up wine (or similar) and 2) run it _on purpuse_
[01:06] <garthk> So, how do I get this node back up? And, how do I avoid apt-get's preserved old Linux images staying around, and/or those resulting in nested grub menus pygrub can't handle, and/or fixing the parsing problem with nested grub menus? ww.gossamer-threads.com/lists/xen/users/228709
[01:06] <tortib> L3top: i want to use an older version of the Driver.
[01:06] <crougier> I have been trying everything I can find
[01:07] <bennypr0fane> hello, I can't get my wifi to work. I need broadcom proprietary driver. Jockey finds it, but when I try to activate it, I get permission denied and it never asks for my password. how can I do this as root?
[01:07] <L3top> tortib: I don't think you do... I am fairly versed in gpu drivers... my guess is that there is another conflict causing the problem, and an older fglrx will only make things worse. Radeon is the open source version of the driver.
[01:07] <tortib> The open source version wont work
[01:07] <tortib> I use this machine for bitcoin mining if you know what that is
[01:07] <tortib> so i need the driver that worked before and gave me the full potential of my video cards
[01:07] <tortib> this new driver lower my hash rate on each card
[01:08] <tortib> lowered*
[01:08] <L3top> sure it will... just not to the level you require...
[01:08] <crougier> Generating grub.cfg ...
[01:08] <crougier> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[01:08] <crougier> Skipping Windows 7 (loader) on Wubi system
[01:08] <crougier> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-12-generic
[01:08] <crougier> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-12-generic
[01:08] <crougier> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-12-generic
[01:08] <FloodBot1> crougier: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:08] <tortib> L3top: what do you mean?
[01:08] <L3top> yes... I get it... what I am telling you is that it is not going to help moving to an older version... however... if you want to prove me right I am happy to help you do so.
[01:08] <mmediaman> Thanks @toafan. where can I get more information about this?  My firefox warns against visiting some site because they are know attack sites, so I was wondering if visiting them from the Ubuntu platform makes me imune to attack.
[01:09] <L3top> pm?
[01:09] <tortib> why wont moving to an older version not help, it was working before I upgraded.
[01:09] <tortib> sure
[01:09] <toafan> bennypr0fane: I forget what the commandline name of jockey is, but you'd want to open a terminal and try `sudo <jockey>`
[01:10] <bennypr0fane> different issue: I want to switch desktop environment. I'm on Bodhi Linux, which is basically Ubuntu 12.04 with Enlightenment desktop. Now I installed Unity, but how can I make my pc always boot into a Unity session?
[01:10] <bennypr0fane> toafan, jockey with the <> around it?
[01:11] <xorgnak> why dont you just install ubuntu and then install the packages you need from Bhodi?
[01:11] <bennypr0fane> bcs I wanted to do it the other way round
[01:11] <toafan> bennypr0fane: no, I forget what command goes there.  by <jockey> I mean 'find out what the actuall command to run jockey is and put that there'
[01:11] <bennypr0fane> what does it matter
[01:11] <crougier> I am having issues recovering my windows boot screen. IN Easy BCD i set the time to 0 thinking I could use grub. Not the case with grub 3. Is there a way to get it back without using a windows recovery disk because I have a net book.  Generating grub.cfg ... Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1 Skipping Windows 7 (loader) on Wubi system Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-12-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-12-gen
[01:12] <toafan> bennypr0fane: well, on my system I just log into the DE I want, and it remembers what I used so it uses it next time.  But Bohdi may have a different login screen/gretter
[01:12] <excervo> hello guys, how do i restore google chrome to its default setting? I'm using 12.4
[01:13] <toafan> excervo: how clean do you want it?  eg, you want to keep bookmarks?
[01:13] <bennypr0fane> right now I have LXDM autologin enabled how would I turn it off?
[01:13] <excervo> toafan, i want to clear up bookmarks too
[01:14] <snwh> excervo, go to ~/.config and delete the google-chrome folder
[01:14] <snwh> easy-peasy
[01:15] <bennypr0fane> toafan: hah, it's jockey-gtk!
[01:15] <toafan> bennypr0fane: ah, I was thinking gtk-jockey.  Did it work?
[01:17] <bennypr0fane> toafan: jockey-gtk. Driver is now active but wireless card still not available. why doesn't jockey just ask me for my pwd though?
[01:17] <excervo> snwh, where is ./config located?
[01:17] <bennypr0fane> do I need to reboot maybe?
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> bennypr0fane, You might like to know that there is a #bodhilinux channel if needed.
[01:17] <bennypr0fane> I do know
[01:17] <bennypr0fane> thanks
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> cool
[01:18] <toafan> excervo: it's a hidden folder.  if you're in a terminal, just cd .config
[01:18] <bennypr0fane> but this is more of an issue related to my godawful wifi card
[01:18] <lawltoad> Hi, I want to run a home server on which I can manage a folder hierarchy
[01:18] <toafan> bennypr0fane: yeah, a reboot is probably neccesary
[01:18] <bennypr0fane> it'd be just the same, be it in Bodhi or Ubuntu
[01:19] <jrib> lawltoad: go on...
[01:19] <excervo> toafan, i only found chromium inside /.config folder not google-chrome
[01:19] <garthk> Ok, to summarise: if you run XenServer and Ubuntu and use apt-get dist-upgrade, it's quite probable you'll trash your VM's ability to boot. The process to recover is not well documented, and might well require preparation in advance of the problem, leaving you up shit creek if you didn't know about the problem before trying to apply them security patches.
[01:19] <blackshirt> laltoad, what you mean with home server?
[01:19] <lawltoad> sorry, more specifically, i want to beable to open up a web browser, point it to my IP, and then upload and dowload folders from that directory
[01:19] <bennypr0fane> actually, I've gone through this whole thing already in Lubuntu, except Wifi started working once I installed the STA driver
[01:20] <garthk> Example work-around which isn't working for me: http://randomlinuxnotes.wordpress.com/tag/grub2/
[01:20] <bennypr0fane> will try reboot - brb thanks toafan!
[01:20] <garthk> Google search showing a) I'm not the only person running into this, b) it's been around for a while, and c) no easy solution:
[01:20] <toafan> excervo: well, try that?  how did you install chrome?
[01:20] <snwh> excervo, in your home folder if you push ALT+H to show the hidden dot folders
[01:21] <miraj> lawltoad , apache would work
[01:21] <garthk> Google search showing a) I'm not the only person running into this, b) it's been around for a while, and c) no easy solution: https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+xen+%22unknown+directive+load_video%22
[01:21] <excervo> toafan it's loaded with it since i installed 12.4
[01:22] <Cell> Did ubuntu have a generic kernel update recently?
[01:22] <goddard> yA
[01:22] <toafan> excervo: installed by default, then?  You've got Chromium, so the .config/chromium folder is what you're after
[01:22] <Cell> ok good
[01:23] <Cell> does the ubuntu package manager/software center perform verification (mdsums or gpg) on downloaded software/updates before it applies them?
[01:23] <excervo> guys thanks for prompt response, it worked like a charm
[01:23] <goddard> Cell: yeah
[01:24] <lawltoad> miraj, Well I was looking for some package with the webinterface, security managemnt and all already
[01:24] <lawltoad> not a roll your own, I'm pretty shitty with that stuff
[01:24] <blackshirt> cell, every packages has been signed...
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> Cell, If you are missing a gpg it should tell you from an apt-get anyway
[01:25] <blackshirt> cell,if you try to dowload from untrusted source,apt would warn you
[01:25] <garthk> Will trade help for newbies if anyone can help solve my can't-boot-because-of-pygrub problem.
[01:25] <blackshirt> !info pygrub
[01:26] <miraj> lawltoad, if you're using a web browser with ftp browsing support (like mozilla) then vsftpd is easy enough to config
[01:26] <blackshirt> garthk,what is pygrub?
[01:26] <excervo> garthk, have you tried grub-repair?
[01:26] <Cell> Thanks
[01:27] <toafan> lawltoad: I've heard of OwnCloud, might be worth looking into?
[01:27] <garthk> ubottu blackshirt excervo I installed Precise under XenServer 5.6. I applied a kernel update. Seems that shoved stuff into the grub conf that XenServer's boot loader can't cope with. So, now my host is hosed. I can't even boot into single user mode to try grub-repair etc.
[01:27] <toafan> garthk: can you acess the FS? if not, you're pretty much out of luck
[01:28] <L3top> garthk: chroot the install
[01:28] <L3top> garthk: from live boot
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> garthk, Have you taken a look here.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed
[01:28] <lawltoad> toafan, looks delicious
[01:28] <excervo> I mean boot-repair, my bad
[01:28] <lawltoad> toafan, ITS IN THE REPOS
[01:29] <lawltoad> --sorry caps
[01:29] <toafan> anyone know how to bind Alt-Space to the window menu (or operations menu?) in KDE/KWin?
[01:29] <garthk> Ok, trying live boot per L3top.
[01:33] <defaultro> what could be my ubuntu doing? it's bringing down my wireless connections?
[01:33] <defaultro> i turned it off and everything is stable now
[01:33] <blackshirt> defaultro, can you describe more detail?
[01:33] <miraj> defaultro; it's own? or everyone else's ?
[01:34] <defaultro> i installed LTS about an hour ago. It was able to acquire ip but wasn't able to go to the internet. routing table looks good using netstat -rn
[01:35] <defaultro> then, my kids went to me and all of them asked "is the internet down" LOL
[01:35] <garthk> Oh, FFS. I can't boot into single-user mode from the DVD because I don't get the opportunity to hit any keys to control the way it boots.
[01:35] <garthk> Hmm. Maybe -- will help.
[01:35] <miraj> defaultro; so it's bringing down everyone else's connections?
[01:36] <defaultro> the wifi on my ubuntu is very intermittent
[01:36] <blackshirt> defaultro, ya can connect to some wifi connection available,but can't go to browse?
[01:36] <garthk>  /bin/bash not found… kernel panic!
[01:36] <blackshirt> defaultro,is your dns setup correctly?
[01:36] <blackshirt> garthk,look bad
[01:37] <L3top> garthk: some things should be mounted prior to attempting chroot... but yeah... that looks bad.
[01:38] <L3top> garthk: I assumed you mounted the install... can you browse it?
[01:38] <garthk> Oh, poo. That's on ubuntu-12.04.1-server-amd64.iso… is that also a live combo DVD? Might need ubuntu-12.04.1-dvd-amd64.iso.
[01:38] <Smaxie> Hi guuys.  Im not a noive by any means, but I just picked up a used Dell D630 Latitude notebook today for cheap.  I threw ubuntu on it, and normall broadcom and such is easy to get going.  But apparently not this one.  It was picked up on first boot but it needed a fiirmware package from Jockey, so I inastalled that, and now the device doesnt show under netwqorkmanager or iwconfig
[01:39] <Smaxie> If someone could help me out that would be great.  It appears it's a Broadcom STA card, according to Jockey.  The name in windows device manager cbrands it dell, which is of no usew
[01:39] <bennypr0fane> my unity desktop is broken. It loads just an empty wall paper. there is a reaction to rightclick and keyboard input, but nothing to click
[01:39] <garthk> L3top, I can boot the Ubuntu install process but not pop a shell so I can repair the existing install.
[01:40] <tortib> L3top: how can i set my main desktop and login manager to XFCE4?
[01:40] <garthk> I can rebuild this node quickly because I use Puppet. If I do, though, I'm worried that on the very next kernel patch I'll end up back in this situation again, with Ubuntu shoving stuff into the grub config file that Xen can't cope with.
[01:40] <WXZ> why doesn't super+n invert virtualbox?
[01:40] <Smaxie> Iver also trie4d install b43-fwcutter, but that did nothing
[01:40] <tortib> or if someone else can answer that question that would be great
[01:41] <bennypr0fane> toafan the new wlan driver is working now though!
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> Smaxie, I would assume the actual card might help, does this command show it.  lspci | grep Broadcom
[01:41] <garthk> With this live DVD download predicted to take an absurd 8h, though, I guess reinstall-from-scratch is my best option.
[01:41] <Smaxie>  ya it does
[01:41] <Smaxie> \
[01:41] <L3top> tortib: check /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[01:41] <Smaxie> one sec
[01:41] <jagginess> tortib, if it's installed, then logout and choose the 'gear icon'
[01:41] <garthk> And, figuring out what an unbeatable grub conf looks like, and setting up Nagios to warn me if the box looks unbootable.
[01:41] <miraj> garthk; there's no law saying you must update your kernel every time there's a new patch available
[01:42] <L3top> garthk: you are in a dangerous position. Are you able to successfully mount the suspect drive/
[01:42] <tortib> jagginess: where is this 'gear' icon?
[01:42] <L3top> ?
[01:42] <tortib> i'm on 11.10
[01:42] <Smaxie> Its a BCM411
[01:42] <bennypr0fane> tortib what happens when you boot? don't you get to choose a desktop?
[01:42] <Smaxie> Broacom 802.11/b/g
[01:42] <tortib> i have auto login set for one of my accounts
[01:42] <jagginess> tortib, select username, then click the gear icon beside your  name..
[01:42] <tortib> it logs into gdm automatically
[01:42] <tortib> i don't want to have to do that every time though
[01:42] <Smaxie> I have the wifi switch to on, btw
[01:42] <garthk> L3top: if this node is toast, I just blow its keys and rebuild with Puppet. It'll take about 15min. I'm trying to figure out the recovery, though, in case next time I'm dealing with a node with important data.
[01:43] <jagginess> tortib, ok, so whatever option you have under gdm.. if its not there then a link wasnt made for it (and you may need to make one manually, somewhere in /usr/share)
[01:43] <L3top> tortib: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[01:43] <garthk> miraj: No. Nor is there a law that says that my host should survive any reboot, let alone one after a kernel update. It'd make my work easier, though.
[01:44] <L3top> garthk: I cannot answer your questions unless you answer mine.
[01:44] <bennypr0fane> btw I loaded enlightenment now. at login I get default, Ubuntu, Enlightenment, Ubuntu and Ubuntu 2D. Yes Ubuntu is there twice, and Ubuntu2D doesn't let me log in
[01:44] <L3top> garthk: Can you MOUNT the drive
[01:44] <garthk> "Ubuntu: a great server OS as long as you don't mind never applying security updates in case your node doesn't wake up again" doesn't make that awesome a slogan, though. :)   (Unfair: it's the Xen+Ubuntu combination that's making this hard.)
[01:44] <L3top> tortib: adjust the file as necessary
[01:45] <miraj> garthk, so try centos
[01:45] <llaskin> hi, i seem to get a bunch of "firefox <defunct>" processes showing up in my PS list.  Is there anyone who give me a reason to why these are appearing(and taking up memory)?  They seem to be dead ghost firefox processes.  Or perhaps a way to kill them all every 5 minutes(all defunct firefox processes)
[01:45] <garthk> L3top, I repeat: I have no bootable anything from which I can pop a shell and then mount anything. So, I can't answer your questions. Once I download this live image, then I can get a shell. Until then, I'm somewhat stuck.
[01:45] <L3top> garthk: A bazillion newbs manage to update security without destroying their systems... don't make this an assault on the OS... it will not bode well.
[01:45] <garthk> miraj: "Ubuntu! If at first you don't succeed, well, try CentOS." isn't that good either.
[01:46] <L3top> garthk: I am asking... in a live cd... can you mount the drive
[01:46] <Smaxie> will_i_am: ive tried some stuff ive found on the forums and such, but im not finding anyuthiung that works
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> Smaxie, with that card and ubuntu only about 4 pages of google hits and only two with 12.04, not all on that card even.
[01:46] <garthk> L3top, I assure you I'll let you know once I finish downloading this live DVD.
[01:46] <WXZ> how can I invert the colors for virtualbox?
[01:46] <Smaxie> weilits the sta driver
[01:46] <Smaxie> not b43
[01:46] <L3top> garthk: I want to help you fix this... you are making me less motivated to do so.
[01:46] <Smaxie> aCCORDING TO THE WIKI PAGE
[01:47] <L3top> Ubuntu has its faults... security updates isn't one of them
[01:47] <Smaxie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[01:47] <miraj> garthk, can xen write-protect it's bootsector etc?
[01:47] <L3top> if it were... there would be more than 1500 users in here with your issue
[01:47] <garthk> (If there are any Xen experts who can figure out another cheat to wake this box up without waiting for this Live DVD download, then I can get right on to the boot repair stuff L3top might be able to help me with. It sounds like a whole lot more fun than this step.)
[01:47] <L3top> Dial it down a notch.
[01:48] <garthk> miraj: fun idea. Not sure.
[01:48] <toafan> fighting with KDE/KWin over Alt-Space and gnome-terminal.  Anyone?
[01:48] <L3top> blaming the OS which does not befuddle newbs is not likely the best way to attract those bees garthk.
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> Smaxie, is it BCM411 or BCM4311  thos are diffrent cards I believe.
[01:48] <tortib> L3top: nah xfce4 didn't fix it, it's shitty drivers
[01:48] <Smaxie> bcm4311
[01:48] <Smaxie> it uses sta
[01:49] <Smaxie> im following guide on wiki
[01:49] <Gary_inNYC> I see that a generic pae kernel  is being pushed in Update Manager.  Should I skip this for an older computer that isn't pae ?
[01:49] <Smaxie> just to make sure i didnt miss something
[01:49] <bennypr0fane> never smart to bash the os in its own irc channel :-D
[01:50] <bennypr0fane> so, not looking good for my empty desktop tonight I guess...
[01:51] <toafan> bennypr0fane: sorry, must've missed that -- what's up again?
[01:51] <baguzzzaji> hello, can i have ubuntu without windows manager?
[01:53] <Smaxie> wilee-nilee: hmm, i followed the directions, modprobed the cvarious mopdulkes, nothing
[01:53] <Smaxie> gonna try a reboot
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> baguzzzaji, Look at login managers here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems#Adding_a_Window_Manager
[01:54] <miraj> garthk; perhaps if you split your installation into two drives, one for xen and the other for ubuntu, then hardware write-protected the xen drive
[01:54] <Smaxie> man this sucks, i really hope i can get this thing working
[01:54] <toafan> baguzzzaji: what, like just TTYs and no graphics?  In theory, yes.
[01:55] <llaskin> is there any way to kill all processes that have <defunct> in their process listing at once?
[01:55] <baguzzzaji> toafan, yes, i mean that way.
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> Smaxie, It seemed you said you had wifi until you added firmware, is this true and did you have it on the live cd?
[01:56] <Smaxie> i didnt use live cd, and no i never had wifi, but before I added that thing in jockey, networkmanager would aatleast notice there was a wifi adapter bgut it would be greyed out and said "need firmware" or whatever
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> Ah
[01:57] <toafan> baguzzzaji: there _used_ to be an ubuntu-minimal install CD, that'd do that.  I heard a rumor that it was going away, but I don't know.  Alternatly, you could hack bootup scripts and/or uninstall all graphical software includeing X itself.
[01:58] <Smaxie>  I just got a Dell latitude business class laptop, with 4GB of ram core2duo 2.13 and other goodies for only 80 bucks, i was hoping top replace my brown thinkpad and run linux
[01:58] <Smaxie>  but if ubuntu is struggling, it doesnt dobe well for opther distros
[01:58] <garthk> Partial solution to getting node alive: use 'xe-edit-bootloader -n hostname -p 1' on Xen console to remove 'submenu' definition.
[01:58] <Smaxie>  s/broken/brown'
[01:59] <Smaxie> :(
[01:59] <OerHeks> Smaxie, if firmware is missing >  sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer ( and reboot)
[02:00] <garthk> I'm now in a maintenance mode shell with /dev/xvda2 mounted… where'd xvda1 go? Hmm.
[02:00] <Smaxie> i tried that, but this card downt use that firmware anyway
[02:00] <toafan> Smaxie: have you rebooted since installing firmware/drivers?
[02:00] <defaultro> I rebooted my access point while ubuntu was off, the network has been up for 5 mins now without any issues
[02:00] <Smaxie> wiki says install bcmwl-kernel-source
[02:00] <defaultro> i'm doing a continiuous ping
[02:00] <Smaxie> ive rebooted a bunch of timesd, along with mod probing
[02:00] <Smaxie> the wiki says this all...
[02:01] <Smaxie> .me doesnt come to irc beforew reading wikis and such
[02:01] <L3top> #ubuntu wears on the soul.
[02:01] <OerHeks> wiki says that cord is both STA and B43.. it is B43
[02:01] <Smaxie> ive tried both :(
[02:02] <Smaxie> im gonna keep playing with it
[02:05] <snwh> Smaxie, what is the output of lspci?
[02:05] <garthk> Ok, a few reboots later, it boots fine. So, full rescue solution: xe-edit-bootloader -n
[02:05] <garthk> Whups. http://www.virtualzone.de/2012/06/ubuntu-vm-not-starting-on-xenserver.html
[02:05] <defaultro> i'm going to turn on my Ubuntu machine now. I hope it doesn't affect my wireless network. Maybe it was just a coincidence earlier
[02:07] <Smaxie> snwh: i said the name of card above
[02:07] <Smaxie> b4311
[02:08] <esteban320> hello, Iam using ubunutu 12.04 and have black screen
[02:08] <esteban320> It seems  that I have graphical system X loggeed as root user, but not as my user. Can someone to end up my problem? I have ubuntu 12.04
[02:08] <toafan> esteban320: are you logged on? and do you have a text prompt?
[02:09] <esteban320> this is my /var/log/xorg.0log http://pastebin.com/VQyJQ6MH
[02:09] <bennypr0fane> Hej Smaxie did you reply a while ago when I asked what yr issue was?
[02:10] <esteban320> toafan, the login window if i boot from grub as normal user, doesnt appear
[02:10] <bennypr0fane> bcs I was gone there 4 a while
[02:10] <bennypr0fane> bad irc client...
[02:10] <esteban320> or appear the logo of ubuntu for ever
[02:10] <Smaxie>  bennypr0fane never saw you ask me an question.
[02:10] <bennypr0fane> ok
[02:10] <toafan> ah, that-- I can't help with.  sorry
[02:10] <bennypr0fane> so, what's yr issue?
[02:11] <Smaxie> Basically my wifi aint working.  Im not new to linux by any means, but just picked up a new laptop and its giving mew fits
[02:11] <esteban320> it is like this problem, but I cant figure out how to sove in my case https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=109180
[02:11] <bennypr0fane> have you tried rfkill yet Smaxie?
[02:11] <snwh> Smaxie, Hmm I have a Broadcom card as well (b4313) and the "bcmwl-source-package" with the wl module is what works for me.
[02:11] <toafan> bennypr0fane: what's up with your empty desktop again?
[02:12] <bennypr0fane> toafan I log into a Unity session, the desktop remains empty, I only see the wallpaper
[02:12] <Smaxie> installer apparently killed my eth0 also hmm, b43=
[02:12] <Smaxie> wtf
[02:12] <toafan> bennypr0fane: Unity or Unity2D?
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> esteban320, A its like this is not going to get you help I suspect, just state it. ;)
[02:12] <bennypr0fane> Unity
[02:13] <Smaxie> hmm, eth0 is there but networkmanager doesntr see it ew
[02:13] <bennypr0fane> I can't log into Unity2D
[02:13] <bennypr0fane> Smaxie do rfkill list
[02:14] <Smaxie> bennypr0fane: shows dekll wifi and delkl bluetooth
[02:14] <Smaxie> soft and hard blocked : no
[02:14] <Zachster1996> hello
[02:14] <Zachster1996> i am having trouble with ubuntu
[02:14] <esteban320> wilee-nilee how can I proceed :=s
[02:14] <toafan> bennypr0fane: can you pop over to a TTY and look for processes with `compiz` or `unity`?  Eg in top, htop?
[02:15] <bennypr0fane> Smaxie only those 2, wifi and bt? all not blocked?
[02:15] <Smaxie> must be something stupid, but its reeally driving me nuts
[02:15] <Smaxie> bennypr0fane: yup
[02:15] <toafan> Zachster1996: of course, or you wouldn't be here.  What's up?
[02:15] <Smaxie> im typing from another pc, so i cant copy and paSTE, BUT THATS IT
[02:15] <Zachster1996> i have ubuntu server 12.04.1 and the stats at the bottom keep appearing over and over when i connect via ssh
[02:15] <bennypr0fane> Smaxie so you tried both drivers, proprietary one and free?
[02:16] <bennypr0fane> toafan I forgot what tty is
[02:16] <esteban320> wilee-nilee can someone help me? I haven't got graphical system in ubuntu 12 04 logged as user, but yes booting as root user
[02:16] <Zachster1996> i have ubuntu server 12.04.1 and the stats at the bottom keep appearing over and over when i connect via ssh
[02:16] <toafan> bennypr0fane: TTY is a hardware terminal.  In this case, you want to hit Ctrl-Alt-f1
[02:17] <Smaxie>  UHH, YA I GUESS.  WASNT AWARE THERE WAS A FREE AND NON-FREE.
[02:17] <Smaxie> woops
[02:17] <Smaxie> sorry bout that
[02:17] <toafan> bennypr0fane: it'll drop you at a text prompt
[02:17] <Smaxie> what the STA one from jockey for? i was under the impression you wouldnt need anything else besides that
[02:17] <toafan> Zachster1996: I've never used Ubuntu server.  What kind of stats?
[02:18] <bennypr0fane> Smaxie that card can be really weird
[02:18] <Zachster1996> the system stats that appear at the bottom
[02:18] <Smaxie> but now im seeing sta, b43/firmware-b64-installer and bcmwl-firmware or whatever
[02:18] <toafan> Zachster1996: and importantly, do they only show up along the bottom line, or do they scroll up the terminal?
[02:18] <Smaxie> bennypr0fane: apparently, Ive been using linjux for 11 years and never seen something so stupid when it ciomes to wifi
[02:18] <bennypr0fane> you can choose between the 2. deactivate whichever one you're using now and try the other
[02:19] <Smaxie> 2? i listed 3?]
[02:19] <Smaxie> \
[02:19] <bennypr0fane> well one is just the installer
[02:19] <toafan> Zachster1996: I've got Byobu terminal manager, and it has a stats line along the bottom, but if that's what's going on they should _stay_ at the bottom
[02:20] <Zachster1996> toafan they are supposed to stay at bottom but they scroll
[02:20] <Zachster1996> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/52265290/untitled.PNG
[02:20] <Zachster1996> toafan ^
[02:20] <Smaxie> wonder if its 64bit giving me problems or somethingmas
[02:21] <Zachster1996> i tried putty, kitty, disabling byobu on login
[02:21] <bennypr0fane> toafan right now I'm in an Enlightenment session
[02:21] <bennypr0fane> I have htop running
[02:21] <bennypr0fane> what now?
[02:21] <Zachster1996> it dont do it at the actual server just in ssh
[02:21] <Zachster1996> toafan ^
[02:21] <treaverhoerig> How do I install oracle java 6-7 in ppa
[02:21] <bennypr0fane> Smaxie try uninstalling the STA driver
[02:22] <bennypr0fane> then reboot
[02:22] <Smaxie>  i havbe
[02:22] <OerHeks> !java
[02:22] <toafan> Zachster1996: yeah, that's not supposed to happen.  Is that a actual windows box, and if so have you tried from anothe linux machine?
[02:22] <Smaxie> now im uninstyalling b43 studff and just going with bcmwl
[02:22] <bennypr0fane> ok
[02:22] <bennypr0fane> after that run rfkill again
[02:22] <OerHeks> treaverhoerig, there is no ppa, see ubottu's url
[02:22] <bennypr0fane> rfkill list
[02:23] <Zachster1996> that server is my only linux machine
[02:23] <Zachster1996> toafan ^
[02:23] <Smaxie> if this doesnt work im gonna install my proven intel nioc from my t60 thinkpad
[02:23] <Zachster1996> i have ubuntu desktop on my computer but i havent installed wireless yet
[02:23] <Zachster1996> toafan ^
[02:23] <bennypr0fane> this broadcom wifi card is just a curse
[02:24] <Smaxie> bennypr0fane: i never had a problem with b43 type ones
[02:24] <Smaxie> they always just worked for me
[02:24] <bennypr0fane> I've been having this issue with each installation of Linux
[02:24] <toafan> Zachster1996: could you plug in an ethernet cable long enough to test?
[02:25] <Zachster1996> no my internet is on the opposite end of the house and i dont have long enough cable
[02:25] <Zachster1996> toafan ^
[02:25] <KRomeleoN> i just benchmarked a flash drive in ubuntu under disks and got 216.3 MB/s
[02:25] <KRomeleoN> can that be right?
[02:25] <KRomeleoN> seems high
[02:26] <KRomeleoN> its rated at 190MB/sec
[02:26] <Zachster1996> toafan it dont happen on 11.10 i just upgraded to 12.04.1
[02:26] <devslash> does linux support writing to HFS+ ?
[02:26] <Smaxie>  rfkill shows thwe same
[02:26] <Zachster1996> toafan maybe i should downgrade
[02:27] <toafan> Zachster1996: officaly, there's no way to downgrade (I found out tonight)
[02:27] <Zachster1996> i meant wipe drive
[02:27] <Zachster1996> toafan ^
[02:27] <KRomeleoN> why not try 12.10 before u go back to 11.10 as a fresh install?
[02:27] <snwh> devslash, yes but only if Journaling is disabled under MAC OS
[02:27] <Zachster1996> there is no 12.10 Krabbe
[02:27] <Zachster1996> KRomeleoN
[02:28] <KRomeleoN> im running it, im sure it exists :)
[02:28] <devslash> will i lose any data if i do that ?
[02:28] <toafan> Zachster1996: yeah, if you're going to fresh-install you may as well try the current version first
[02:28] <Zachster1996> toafan is 12.10 dev buid
[02:28] <toafan> KRomeleoN: not yet it doesn't, you're on beta
[02:28] <KRomeleoN> yeah its a beta
[02:28] <toafan> Zachster1996: so 12.4
[02:28] <KRomeleoN> but b4 he does a fresh install....
[02:28] <Zachster1996> i dont like beta
[02:28] <KRomeleoN> try 12.10
[02:28] <OerHeks> KRomeleoN, there are 2 speeds, cach & bufferd speeds, use > sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[02:28] <Zachster1996> k
[02:29] <bennypr0fane> Smaxie here's a really neat thing for diagnosing your wlan: http://wiki.bodhilinux.com/doku.php?id=wireless_script
[02:29] <snwh> devslash, you shouldnt. but they say it is "not recommended" to disable
[02:29] <bennypr0fane> it prints out everything you wanna know
[02:29] <Zachster1996> toafan gonna go try that
[02:30] <bennypr0fane> making sense of the output will be another thing tho...
[02:30] <bennypr0fane> toafan I can't see any Unity process in htop
[02:31] <snwh> devslash, it just prevents corruption, data loss, etc.  if you want the write to HFS+ from ubuntu you have to disable. here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[02:31] <Zachster1996> toafan do-release-upgrade says no new version
[02:31] <Zachster1996> im using -d
[02:31] <toafan> bennypr0fane: did you search for them?
[02:31] <bennypr0fane> how?
[02:31] <bennypr0fane> there's really just a dozen running though
[02:32] <toafan> bennypr0fane: probably hit f3, it should say along the bottom
[02:32] <toafan> bennypr0fane: might want to make sure you're seeing processes from all users
[02:32] <bennypr0fane> i've got processes from 4 users shown so that's probably all
[02:33] <bennypr0fane> is it?
[02:34] <bennypr0fane> but as i'm now in an e17 session, it wouldn't make much sense anyway if there was anything Unity running, right?
[02:35] <toafan> bennypr0fane: yeah yeah yeah, the idea here is to try to log in to unity and see if it worked by checking for unity processes
[02:36]  * zykotick9 wonders if "unity" is a process?  compiz maybe?
[02:36] <devslash> anyone here running ubuntu server
[02:36] <snwh> devslash, for what purpose?
[02:37] <toafan> zykotick9: well, if his unity is running correctly, there should be a couple processes with unity in their name
[02:37] <bennypr0fane> but the problem is if I log into Unity I can't be in here not run anything
[02:37] <zykotick9> toafan: you'd know better then i would ;)
[02:37] <toafan> zykotick9: for example unity-panel iirc
[02:37] <toafan> bennypr0fane: what chat client are you using?
[02:37] <bennypr0fane> except if I can run 2 sessions simultaneously and switch between them?
[02:37] <bennypr0fane> x-chat
[02:38] <devslash> I want to get a computer to run ubuntu server, i don't need anything REALLY fancy. just decent amount of RAM (~4GB) and a lot of storage. any recommendations
[02:38] <toafan> bennypr0fane: what about multiuser and switch-user?
[02:38] <andrewh192> question.... I am looking for what tv tuner card I could use on my computer, and what program i would use to watch tv with....???
[02:38] <bennypr0fane> no idea, never tried taht
[02:38] <andrewh192> i have looked online at several forums but always never seem to get a real answer from anything said there
[02:38] <toafan> bennypr0fane: you probably can't log in two sessions for the same user, so you may have to create a test user
[02:39] <bennypr0fane> devslash you might wanna try the #hardware channel
[02:39] <snwh> devslash, well ubuntu server doesnt have a gui by default
[02:39] <devslash> i know
[02:39] <bennypr0fane> toafan shouldn't be a problem
[02:39] <devslash> I'm currently running it on an old laptop
[02:39] <devslash> in a CLI
[02:40] <bennypr0fane> the problem is how do i get any info about the Unity session if I can't start any applications
[02:40] <toafan> bennypr0fane: I've got irssi which runs in a terminal, so it'd run in a TTY.  I've learned you should put it in screen or byobu or the like
[02:40] <zykotick9> andrewh192: i use an oldish hauppauge 1600 to watch/PVR OTA-HD with MythTV, but you might want to check out (?)TVTime i think, for simple watching...
[02:41] <toafan> bennypr0fane: one thing I usually do is go to TTY1 (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and run htop there
[02:41] <bennypr0fane> I can chat from my other computer
[02:41] <snwh> devslash, it should be fine for a server. I repurposed an old laptop and 6 harddrive to make a file server.
[02:41] <jaslap> ok seriously.. gnome 3, why do I have more options for online accounts on my desktop than on my laptop? I've installed all the same stuff..
[02:41] <zykotick9> !info tvtime | andrewh192
[02:41] <devslash> snwh: I'm having a problem now. i powered it off and it won't turn on…. :p
[02:41] <esteban320> Hello.  I can start X as root but not as normal User
[02:42] <bennypr0fane> toafan so if I go ctrl alt f1 in the unity session, i should be able to run cli applications, right?
[02:42] <esteban320> need help please
[02:42] <snwh> devslash, that sounds like a hardware issue :P
[02:42] <defaultro> still can't figure out the issue
[02:42] <toafan> bennypr0fane: yup.  Catch is, that'll be _all_ you can run
[02:43] <devslash> it was JUST working. i powered it off to check something and when i went to power it on it wouldn't turn on
[02:43] <defaultro> network just stops working. What I'll do is disconnect wireless from top right, then click my SSID again.
[02:43] <codewiz> hi, i have a process called "whoopsie" owned by the user "whoopsie" that respawns when killed
[02:43] <defaultro> is there a problem with RT2800pci driver?
[02:43] <codewiz> that part of the system?
[02:43] <bennypr0fane> toafan AND I can't claim I know my cli commands all that well
[02:43] <toafan> bennypr0fane: although, you can probably start a program that uses X from there, same as if you started eg firefox from a terminal window
[02:43] <bennypr0fane> maybe you'd be ready to post me the lines?
[02:44] <esteban320> my xorg.0.failsafeX doesnt work too . One of the WW was Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
[02:44] <toafan> bennypr0fane: if you know how to use `man` and run everything inside byobu, you'll be fine overall
[02:44] <defaultro> wow, someone reporter that the rt2800pci is causing havoc to their school network
[02:44] <toafan> bennypr0fane: but sure
[02:44] <zykotick9> codewiz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/135540/what-is-the-whoopsie-process-and-how-can-i-remove-it
[02:44] <defaultro> reported
[02:44] <bennypr0fane> what's byobu?
[02:45] <codewiz> thx
[02:45] <toafan> bennypr0fane: it's like a windowmanager for the CLI.  I'm pretty sure it's the most newbie-friendly, but I haven't used it much myself
[02:45] <bennypr0fane> ok, will see
[02:46] <bennypr0fane> starting unity session now
[02:46] <defaultro> hey folks, will RT2860 driver work for me? Currently, it shows RT2800pci
[02:46] <defaultro> and someone from a forum is saying that RT2800pci driver is causing issues to their school network. One suggestion was to install a new driver
[02:47] <toafan> bennypr0fane: I'm gonna go poof for the night in about 10-12 minutes, FYI
[02:47] <defaultro> is there an ubuntu kernel channel?
[02:48] <bennypr0fane> ok
[02:48] <andrewh192> tvtime
[02:48] <ampd> toafan: byobu looks pretty intense
[02:48] <andrewh192> is that the name of the program zykotick9?
[02:48] <toafan> ampd: how so?
[02:48] <bennypr0fane> toafan i get a "system program problem detected"
[02:49] <ampd> toafan: well, it looks like windows 3.1. dont think i'd remember how to use it
[02:49] <toafan> bennypr0fane: what caused it?  just trying to log in?
[02:49] <skraito> hi ubuntu user and young programmer
[02:49] <skraito> we release http://0x71.org unpublish code
[02:49] <skraito> for you to learn and secure your box
[02:50] <skraito> go and download it
[02:50] <skraito> and thank God for it
[02:50] <skraito> is free
[02:50] <skraito> go see published code on top of it on the left
[02:50] <ampd> toafan: actually, just looked at a few more screenshots. looks like any tiling wm, but in ascii. might need to look into this
[02:50] <defaultro> anyone knows?
[02:50] <toafan> ampd: well, it's kinda designed the same way?...  it's all about the CLI.  But of course it's a modern OS
[02:50] <nonroot> list #vhost
[02:50] <toafan> ampd: yeah, it's like a tiling wm for the command line
[02:51] <bennypr0fane> toafan yes, right after login
[02:51] <cactusfrog> I have been having some trouble booting off of an Ubuntu DVD I burned. When I try to load it on my mac it just creates a flashing white line that doesn't do anything. I have tried three different dvds and slow speeds. And I have been able to boot off of a flashdrive but that flashdrive is where I want to install ubuntu so I can save files and stuff.
[02:51] <twitchie> andrewh192: yes that is a program used to watch tv off a turner card
[02:51] <ampd> toafan: yea. i'm a fan of the general style.
[02:51] <esteban320> my failsafeX doesnt work. One of the WW was Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
[02:51] <bennypr0fane> also an error msg about telepathy came up
[02:51] <esteban320> but I can init X system as root without problems
[02:51] <bennypr0fane> I'm in tty now, running htop
[02:52] <toafan> bennypr0fane: so is that progress?  Have you been able to check for unity processes?
[02:52] <Nautilus> I have ubuntu 12.04 with lubuntu-desktop (love it!), but don't know how to view the contents of a DVD.   Anyone around to help?  In 10.04 the disc would auto-magically appear on the desktop.
[02:52] <toafan> Nautilus: that's a mount case.  do you have a mounted drives indicator of some sort?  can you find the disk in your file manager?
[02:52] <insomniac_lemon> Can anyone help me get Autodesk Maya 2013 (student version) on Ubuntu? The site says it's possible, but it doesn't offer a download for Linux. There are multiple "tutorials" on the internet, but they start assuming you already have the files. Is it possible to download from their site?
[02:53] <bennypr0fane> toafan, yes, checked, and no, search for unity yields no results
[02:53] <skraito> is on top left guys
[02:53] <ampd> Nautilus: probably need to mount it yourself
[02:54] <andrewh192> cool, thanx twitchie
[02:54] <bennypr0fane> any other keyword to search for except unity?
[02:54] <toafan> bennypr0fane: so your unity login isn't starting the unity processes.  you might be hosed and need to rebuild the login files
[02:54] <toafan> bennypr0fane: got any compiz?
[02:55] <defaultro> so no one here uses rt driver?
[02:55] <bennypr0fane> toafan I dunno. how can I tell?
[02:56] <bennypr0fane> i can't imagine though Unity's acutally not running, bcs I can see the wallpaper, and things happening on the desktop (error msgs in their usual Ubuntu windows)
[02:57] <bennypr0fane> there's a context menu when I right-click, and a reaction to keyboard input
[02:57] <bennypr0fane> it's like the desktop is perfectly fine, except there's nothing on it
[02:57] <cactusfrog> sorry for rewriting this, but I need some help and I haven't been able to find anyone else who has my problem. I burned a DVD with ubuntu 32-desktop and tried to boot off of it with my mac. Although it does reconize the disk and try to boot off of it, all that it does is flash a white line. Nothing more. Whats wrong? The reason I am doing this in the first place is to make an ubuntu flash drive that I can just plug into a comput
[02:57] <bennypr0fane> error report says colord crashed
[02:58] <Verop> HI ALL!
[02:59] <bennypr0fane> toafan just understood yr last question, yes, there is compiz
[02:59] <Devin__> Hey whats up
[02:59] <Verop> KTO POLAK?
[02:59] <snwh> cactusfrog you could: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[02:59] <Nautilus> toafan: sorry I had to step away.  Dont see it in the file manager, and believe I need to mount it, but I suspect the cdrom is a special case... I see it in /dev but also see a /cdrom
[02:59] <twitchie> cactusfrog: did you download the .iso file? If so how did you burn this image
[02:59] <Verop> i nedd help plz
[02:59] <Verop> need
[02:59] <twitchie> !ask | verop
[02:59] <Verop> any can help plz?
[03:00] <Verop> ok
[03:00] <Devin__> Looks busy in here, anyone around think they can give me a couple of pointers in the realm of kernel updates
[03:00] <toafan> bennypr0fane: can you run compiz-config, and check for the unity plugin?
[03:00] <bennypr0fane> will try
[03:00] <cactusfrog> snwh: yeah I tried that but that doesn't allow me to keep my settings after every time I boot. Instead I can either choose to install it or just run the demo, or to install it on my harddrive
[03:00] <Verop> I need website with many developers Linux programms please, and they must work for free?
[03:00] <cactusfrog> snwh: (sorry) yeah I tried that but that doesn't allow me to keep my settings after every time I boot. Instead I can either choose to install it or just run the demo, or to install it on my harddrive
[03:01] <Verop> I need website with many developers Linux programms please, and they must work for free?
[03:01] <Verop> I need website with many developers Linux programms please, and they must work for free?
[03:01] <Verop> I need website with many developers Linux programms please, and they must work for free?
[03:01] <FloodBot1> Verop: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:01] <bennypr0fane> toafan compiz-config command not found
[03:03] <snwh> cactusfrog you could in your Mac terminal:  dd if=image.iso of=/dev/disk bs=8192
[03:03] <bennypr0fane> I opened another tty for this though, alt ctrl F4 - would that be supposed to work?
[03:03] <insomniac_lemon> Autodesk Maya 2013 on Ubuntu? Anyone?
[03:03] <snwh> cactusfrog where image.iso is replaced with your iso name and /dev/disk your disk
[03:04] <Devin__> I am using Ubuntu 12.4 on a VM and am doing HW and I need to update the kernel
[03:04] <YoungOwl> Hello everyone
[03:04] <Devin__> I think I am on the right path but I just want to make sure
[03:05] <cactusfrog> snwh: so that would work?
[03:05] <twitchie> !compizconfig-settings-manager | bennypr0fane
[03:05] <snwh> cactusfrog: it ought to
[03:05] <Nautilus> ampd: sorry I had to step away.  Dont see it in the file manager, and believe I need to mount it, but I suspect the cdrom is a special case... I see it in /dev but also see a /cdrom
[03:06] <snwh> cactusfrog, worth trying at least.
[03:06] <cactusfrog> snwh: so just to be clear that would allow me to boot off the usb make changes like changing my destkop background or installing a program. Shut down my computer and then reboot off that usb again and all the programs would be installed.
[03:06] <bennypr0fane> twitchie thanks - this would be the command?
[03:06] <defaultro> folks, just would like to confirm please. Can i use module rt2860 in place of rt2800?
[03:06] <defaultro> the rt2800pci driver in LTS is bad
[03:07] <snwh> cactusfrog, yup. its just a different way of writing an iso to a usb drive
[03:07] <Devin__> hey can one of you guys point me in the right direction
[03:07] <Devin__> for my kernel update
[03:08] <bennypr0fane> 'compiz' returns:  'Fatal: couldn't open display'
[03:08] <cactusfrog> snwh: thanks
[03:08] <bennypr0fane> Devin__ you'll need to be more specific
[03:08] <bennypr0fane> ask for the exact thing you wanna do
[03:09] <twitchie> bennypr0fane, do you have a current X11 session open?
[03:09] <bennypr0fane> yes, the one with the empty desktop
[03:09] <Devin__> can I paste, or will I get in trouble
[03:09] <Devin__> ???
[03:09] <bennypr0fane> Devin__ use pastebin.com
[03:09] <twitchie> bennypr0fane, what is your current window manager?
[03:09] <bennypr0fane> you don't need an account for that
[03:10] <bennypr0fane> twitchie not sure
[03:10] <twitchie> bennypr0fane, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:10] <bennypr0fane> what's the deafult window manager of Unity?
[03:11] <Nautilus> do I mount /dev/cdrom to the already existing /cdrom folder?
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> !mount | Nautilus
[03:12] <Devin__> wow that's nifty !
[03:12] <Devin__> http://pastebin.com/BEq3HAe2
[03:12] <snwh> cactusfrog, no problem
[03:12] <Devin__> lol I have been out of this internet seen for along time!
[03:12] <Devin__> scene*
[03:12] <bennypr0fane> twitchie "ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version"
[03:12] <d3v1an7> Hey all. I've got a bunch of undelivered message reports in /var/mail/www-data. How would I go about resending the *original* mail out again - not just the fail message?
[03:12] <ebby> !Tedric_fs Stephen King - Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption (txt).zip
[03:12] <twitchie> bennypr0fane, so you have do menu/taskbar etc?
[03:13] <blackshirt> Nautilus: I think that was done automatically
[03:14] <bennypr0fane> twitchie no, nothing, the desktop is completely blank!
[03:14] <Devin__> did you get my paste?
[03:14] <defaultro> which line should I start to copy, http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg85339.html
[03:15] <Nautilus> lotuspsychje: that says I can mount it explicity, so just "sudo mount /dev/cdrom"?
[03:15] <defaultro> anyone know how to patch
[03:15] <bennypr0fane> Devin__ so what, you just need to upgrade your kernel to just any newer version?
[03:15] <bennypr0fane> what is it for?
[03:15] <twitchie> bennypr0fane, did a login GUI come up when you booted the computer?
[03:15] <Devin__> Operating Systems course
[03:16] <bennypr0fane> twitchie yes
[03:16] <Devin__> I don't want to update to the newest thought because part two he wants me to do it again but in a different way I guess
[03:16] <defaultro> what the hello is Synaptic package manager?
[03:16] <bennypr0fane> Devin__ so did you do the things suggested there?
[03:17] <defaultro> I need this, linux-backports-modules-cw-3.3-precise-generic
[03:17] <defaultro> is it yum search linux-backports-modules-cw-3.3-precise-generic
[03:17] <twitchie> bennypr0fane, do you know how to switch the window manager on the login screen?
[03:17] <bennypr0fane> twitchie yes
[03:17] <twitchie> do any of the other choices provide you with a desktop?
[03:18] <bennypr0fane> yes, I got Enlightenment
[03:18] <defaultro> yum iss not installed
[03:18] <defaultro> Englightenment is very old :D
[03:18] <bennypr0fane> defaultro, you're in Ubuntu, yes?
[03:18] <defaultro> yes, ubuntu
[03:18] <blackshirt> defaultro: yum was for centos based
[03:18] <defaultro> why?
[03:18] <defaultro> got it, that's why it failed
[03:18] <defaultro> i though it was universal
[03:18] <bennypr0fane> and you're trying to install stuff with yum?
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> !info e17 | defaultro
[03:19] <ampd> defaultro: use apt-get
[03:19] <bennypr0fane> dude
[03:19] <bennypr0fane> defaultro
[03:19] <defaultro> apt-get linux-backports-modules-cw-3.3-precise-generic
[03:19] <defaultro> i'll try that
[03:19] <bennypr0fane> it's apt-gert
[03:19] <bennypr0fane> *apt-get
[03:19] <defaultro> apt-get search linux-backports-modules-cw-3.3-precise-generic
[03:19] <defaultro> will that work?
[03:19] <bennypr0fane> apt-get install
[03:19] <defaultro> k
[03:19] <bennypr0fane> no. sorry
[03:19] <defaultro> what about searching first
[03:19] <bennypr0fane> wrong
[03:19] <defaultro> apt-search?
[03:20] <bennypr0fane> apt-get search
[03:20] <garthk> Recreated: upgrading from ubuntu-12-x64 3.2.0-30-virtual gives me 'submenu' in grub.cfg; 'apt-get clean' and 'apt-get autoclean'  leave the extra kernel images in /boot and the 'submenu' in grub.cfg; there's no way to not do submenus; and Xen's boot loader can't cope with the submenus.
[03:20] <Devin__> Sorry was fixing my paste to include part II
[03:20] <Devin__> http://pastebin.com/52etPCNQ
[03:20] <Devin__> So yeah I tried to follow the link and look around alittle bit
[03:20] <Devin__> I think I know what I have to do
[03:20] <defaultro> thanks
[03:20] <bennypr0fane> Devin__ smart move
[03:21] <SudoShred> I accidentally created 2 Ubuntu Software Center accounts and each have separate programs that are purchased.  Is there a way to merge the accounts or log out of the currently logged in account to install the other software?
[03:21] <twitchie> bennypr0fane, sounds like your unity/gnome3 is broken. I would fire try a dpkg-reconfigure unity .. if that doesn't work then apt-get purge then apt-get install
[03:21] <garthk> Re grub submenus: any chance the help is out of date, and there's a way to suppress submenu generation? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus
[03:21] <defaultro> damn, unable to locate package
[03:21] <twitchie> bennypr0fane, but to answer your question csmm is the command to change compz settings
[03:21] <defaultro> there is no linux-backports
[03:21] <bennypr0fane> defaultro the search working? return anything?
[03:21] <defaultro> no
[03:21] <defaultro> invalid paramter
[03:21] <Guest7627> hi, how do i join singapore galaxynet server?
[03:22] <defaultro> i'm trying to follow the steps here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973881
[03:22] <defaultro> this is what he wrote, You might try the linux-backports-modules-cw-3.3-precise-generic package available in Synaptic package manager. rt2800pci is different (new? better??) there; here is the standard version:
[03:22] <Devin__> Did you look at my paste again cause I am going to ask you a question
[03:22] <tizz> is there just an ubuntu chat channel?
[03:23] <defaultro> what the hell is Synaptic Package manager?
[03:23] <bennypr0fane> Devin__ go ahead ask
[03:23] <Devin__> What is the difference in the two updates from link 1 http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  to link 2 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/
[03:23] <bennypr0fane> defaultro it's what you need
[03:23] <defaultro> but what is it?
[03:23] <Guest7627> how do i join sibgapore galaxynet server?
[03:23] <bennypr0fane> it's for installing stuff
[03:23] <defaultro> when i ran apt-get install linux-backports, it failed
[03:23] <bennypr0fane> manages yr software
[03:23] <defaultro> ok
[03:23] <defaultro> but I am just installing it
[03:24] <defaultro> apt-get is failing
[03:24] <Nautilus> yay!   cd is mounted (sudo mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom) ...      how can I find the disc label?
[03:24] <bennypr0fane> installing what?
[03:24] <defaultro> linux-backports-modules-cw-3.3-precise-generic
[03:24] <defaultro> i want to try the solution that was suggested in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973881
[03:25] <defaultro> because the rt2800pci module that is loaded on my ubuntu is killing my network
[03:25] <bennypr0fane> defaultro if you have synaptic installed, start it
[03:25] <defaultro> i'm sorry, I'm just 2 hours old in ubuntu
[03:25] <defaultro> not sure where it is
[03:25] <bennypr0fane> system tools
[03:25] <Devin__> Part I—Upgrade Ubuntu Kernel with Ubuntu’s precompiled kernel components
[03:25] <Devin__> Vs
[03:25] <Devin__> Part II—Upgrade Ubuntu Kernel with the use of Linux Kernel Source Code components
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> tizz, #ubuntu-oftopic
[03:25] <defaultro> looking
[03:25] <Devin__> Whats the difference
[03:25] <FloodBot1> Devin__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:25] <tizz> thanks wilee-nilee
[03:25] <Devin__> opps
[03:26] <SudoShred> I accidentally created 2 Ubuntu Software Center accounts and each have separate programs that are purchased.  Is there a way to merge the accounts or log out of the currently logged in account to install the other software?
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> #ubuntu-offtopic tizz,
[03:26] <tizz> #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:26] <tizz> thanks
[03:26] <Devin__> any idea ?
[03:26] <blackshirt> Devin__: what you mean ?
[03:27] <defaultro> bennypr0fane, lol, i couldn't even find System tools
[03:27] <blackshirt> Devin__: what are you trying to do ?
[03:27] <defaultro> i feel like downloading Fedora :(
[03:27] <Devin__> Well part 1 and part 2 ask me to upgrade ubuntu kernels
[03:27] <twitchie> bennypr0fane, I noticed I said cssm, the correct command is ccsm
[03:27] <Devin__> part 1 says to use ubuntu's precompiled kernel components
[03:27] <ampd> defaultro: its in the upper right
[03:28] <bennypr0fane> twitchie i did dpkg-reconfigure unity. need to reboot to see an effect, or should something happen right away?
[03:28] <Devin__> and part 2 asks to use Linux Kernel source code components
[03:28] <Devin__> whats the difference
[03:28] <defaultro> i'll look again
[03:28] <guest-3d4IEw> I have a 'sort-of problem' problem.  Installed Ubuntu Studio on /sda3 partition, bootloader failed - I reinstalled it to get Studio to work.  Now I have 2 partitions of the same thing.   I tried to delete the partition in a windows partition editor and after reset it just came back.
[03:28] <defaultro> my ubuntu experience has been somewhat painful
[03:28] <guest-3d4IEw> is there a simple solution?
[03:28] <d3v1an7> Hey guys, I'm not having a lot of success with this mail issue - can anyone direct me to either a more general linux adminy type channel?
[03:28] <ampd> defaultro: sounds like my experiences trying to update fedora ;)
[03:28] <bennypr0fane> hey defaultro maybe it's in preferences
[03:29] <twitchie> bennypr0fane, should work if you can log out of your current X session
[03:29] <bennypr0fane> ah ok
[03:29] <defaultro> ampd, :) Fedora was easy for me
[03:29] <blackshirt> Devin__: I don't follow your problem from the begins, I'm just sitting here for a second
[03:29] <defaultro> there is no SYstem Tools but there is System Settings
[03:29] <defaultro> maybe, I don't have Synaptics
[03:30] <defaultro> apt-get search doesn't work either :(
[03:30] <bennypr0fane> just type synaptic in terminal
[03:30] <defaultro> i'll try that
[03:30] <ampd> defaultro: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:30] <blackshirt> Devin__: that's very different thing
[03:30] <Devin__> I am working on an Operating Systems class, and I have installed Ubuntu 12.4 onto a VM. I am not very good with linux at all and I need to update the kernels
[03:30] <defaultro> it's not installed
[03:30] <defaultro> ok, installin git
[03:30] <Devin__> how so
[03:30] <Devin__> ?
[03:30] <bennypr0fane> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:30] <SudoShred> Is there a way to install software for all users at once from the Ubuntu Software Center?
[03:31] <WeThePeople> d3v1an7, whats the issue?
[03:31] <d3v1an7> WeThePeople: I've got a bunch of undelivered message reports in /var/mail/www-data. How would I go about resending the *original* mail out again - not just the fail message?
[03:31] <Devin__> blackshirt_: how so?
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> Devin__, Your kernel updates will be in software updates
[03:31] <defaultro> installed but when I ran it, startiing without administrative privileges. :(
[03:32] <twitchie> !sudo | defaultro
[03:32] <Devin__> is software updates the GUI version because I think he wants me to do it in CLI
[03:32] <defaultro> cool
[03:32] <defaultro> forgot to put sudo
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> Devin__, Are you trying to get a specific kernel?
[03:32] <defaultro> I'm very used to running root
[03:32] <Nautilus> i have a DVD mounted and can see the files but not the disc label, anyone know how to find that?
[03:32] <WeThePeople> d3v1an7, is there a specific program you use?
[03:33] <defaultro> why was root disabled?
[03:33] <Devin__> No not really, I just want to fufill the requirements of my assignment
[03:33] <Nordom> I downloaded a .tgz, what is the command to install it? sudo apt-get install filename.tgz?
[03:33] <Devin__> The only thing I would need to tell you up front is I am on Kernel 3.2.0 and I need to do two updates and I don't want to be on the newest one by the end of this
[03:33] <Devin__> just incase say the next assignment is update your kernel again
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> Devin__, We would not know what that is but in ubuntu just run in a terminal sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade  this wil update the OS.
[03:34] <Devin__> If I go to the newest kernel then I would be in trouble
[03:34] <d3v1an7> WeThePeople: All emails originated from WordPress, which uses PHPMailer 5.2.1
[03:34] <bennypr0fane> Devin__ in that case don't do apt-get update
[03:34] <ampd> Devin__: kernel.ubuntu.com
[03:34] <twitchie> defaultro, for security reasons. if you wish to run as root use the command sudo -i
[03:35] <Devin__> yeah, thats what I thought, because If i do that wouldn't it bring me to the most recent
[03:35] <chachin> o_o
[03:35] <chachin> damn 1518 users
[03:35] <WeThePeople> d3v1an7, idk how to use PHPMailer, but maybe a PHP irc channel might?
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> !who | Devin__
[03:35] <Devin__> yeah thats the link I have in my assignment kernel.ubunto.com
[03:36] <ampd> Devin__: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[03:36] <ampd> Devin__: you can install from a .deb
[03:36] <Devin__> ampd ampd
[03:36] <mal10c> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and I'm trying to slow my mouse pointer down more than the Mouse and Touchpad window is offering, does anyone know of another way to do this?
[03:36] <Devin__> http://pastebin.com/52etPCNQ
[03:36] <olskolirc> my monitor keeps slamming off.  sometimes when it does that, i can hear my hard drive spin high.  now display gets scrambled.  ubuntu 11.10 - Nvidia 6 graphics card.  1.8 cpu
[03:37] <d3v1an7> WeThePeople: No worries! I am trying to resend with formail if that makes it more relevant.
[03:37] <blackshirt> Devin__: first one was using precompiled kernel, I mean, in binary term
[03:37] <blackshirt> Devin__: second one, you build by yourself the kernel binary from the source
[03:37] <blackshirt> Devin__: usually you upgrade it with precompiled kernel from mainline stock ..
[03:37] <d3v1an7> WeThePeople: This command works - http://serverfault.com/questions/90023/how-can-i-send-var-mail-root-again
[03:37] <olskolirc> !legacy
[03:37] <blackshirt> Devin__: the second part was more hard and usually was for more experienced linux user
[03:37] <Devin__> is the first one I just download the .deb files and run the command
[03:37] <tjz> Hello guys
[03:38] <tjz> anyone familiar with using EncFS ?
[03:38] <d3v1an7> WeThePeople: But it resends the fail message back to www-data, not the actual original email to a external address that failed in the first place.
[03:38] <WeThePeople> mal10c, look in the software center for  that
[03:38] <ampd> Devin__: yea, sounds like it
[03:38] <Devin__> I think the command I found was "" sudo dpkg -i *.deb""
[03:38] <ampd> Devin__: that should do it
[03:39] <Devin__> how about part II
[03:39] <Devin__> anyone have any idea
[03:39] <defaultro> thanks twitchie
[03:40] <mal10c> WeThePeople: thanks, I hadn't thought of that. I see there's a lot of software that might help
[03:40] <defaultro> ok folks, I got the linux-backports precise generic installed. How do I know if my system is now using it?
[03:40] <defaultro> i forgot to take note of the filesize of rt2800pci driver
[03:40] <defaultro> lsmod shows the same driver name
[03:40] <defaultro> so I can't tell if I am using linux-backpors
[03:40] <WeThePeople> mal10c, i use atomic mailer, if that intrests you :)
[03:41] <bisi> #irssi
[03:41] <mhumgood> can any one on xubuntu tell me how to have dual screens that are not clone onlyy
[03:41] <ampd> Devin__: just do the same thing with a .tar.gz
[03:41] <blackshirt> Devin__: part II was told you to upgrade with compile your kernel image by yourself
[03:41] <garthk> Heh. Can't find version_find_latest defined in /etc/grub.d/*, /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig, /usr/sbin/update-grub, or /boot/grub/*…
[03:42] <defaultro> yes, I am using the linux-backports module now :D
[03:42] <ampd> defaultro: i *think* there's somewhere in system settings that should display it?
[03:42] <Devin__> https://skydrive.live.com/redir?page=view&resid=6FC53C5C75E5DBE0!1535&authkey=!AOu5CqV30Mf56bg
[03:42] <defaultro> hopefully my wifi is now stable
[03:42] <WeThePeople> garthk, have you tried sudo apt-get update-grub?
[03:42] <defaultro> ampd, i just used modinfo and it did the trick ;)
[03:42] <ampd> defaultro: :)
[03:42] <defaultro> i'll monitor my network
[03:42] <Devin__> You can check that out and it will show you my project just go to Labs>Lab 01 >Manual
[03:43] <twitchie> defaultro, modinfo <modulename>  ..... good to hear hope it stays that way.
[03:43] <garthk> WeThePeople: All packages are up-to-date. 'update-grub' isn't an APT command: "E: Invalid operation update-grub".
[03:43] <blackshirt> that's very slow
[03:44] <Devin__> how do i get sudo dpkg -i *.deb to work for where I have placed my .deb files
[03:44] <garthk> I'm well amused: all the grub stuff is in sh, it's calling version_find_latest in back ticks… nobody changes the path… and yet, I can't find it anywhere sensible. Game well played. :)
[03:44] <blackshirt> garth, yes, that's command from grub2 packages
[03:44] <Devin__> if I just cd to it will it know
[03:44] <ampd> Devin__: you have to put the path to the deb file
[03:44] <ampd> Devin__: unless you're in the same folder
[03:44] <blackshirt> Devin__: you should cd to dir contains your debs files, and issued that command
[03:45] <Nordom> I extracted a .tgz file, and I want to install it, I cd to the extrated file, and type 'make' but I get a message that says ' no targets specified' what gives?
[03:45] <Devin__> oh dugh
[03:45] <mhumgood> can any one help set up dual screen that is not cloned
[03:45] <WeThePeople> garthk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading
[03:45] <Devin__> i should use the wildcard ( * ) still right so it gets all three files?
[03:46] <Devin__> ?
[03:47] <mhumgood> can some one please help seup dual screen please
[03:47] <ampd> Devin__: your lab manual has a walkthrough
[03:47] <somsip> Nordom: normall you would ./configure and make install
[03:47] <defaultro> hey folks, looks like my firefox doesn't have Flash support. HOw do I get it installed?
[03:47] <Devin__> No I made that lol
[03:47] <Devin__> Well I am in the process
[03:47] <blackshirt> Devin__: you can install one by one with the exact  name :D
[03:47] <Devin__> I am about ot paste in the next part
[03:47] <ampd> Devin__: ahh, well you're pretty much there then ;)
[03:48] <netsecure> howdyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[03:48] <WeThePeople> mhumgood, what distro?
[03:48] <ampd> defaultro: did you install flash?
[03:48] <netsecure> ubunt is awesome :D
[03:48] <mhumgood> xubuntu
[03:48] <netsecure> :D
[03:48] <defaultro> no
[03:48] <Devin__> blackshirt: Do I have to do it individually or can I use the wildcard and it will grab all three>
[03:48] <Devin__> ?
[03:48] <defaultro> apt-get install flash?
[03:48] <WeThePeople> netsecure, do you have a question
[03:48] <Nordom> somsip: I typed sudo ./configure, and got 'command not found' any ideas?
[03:48] <Devin__> how do I do the thing to get your attention with the ding>
[03:48] <Devin__> ?
[03:49] <Devin__> it warned me earlier
[03:49] <|Anthony|> is there a current and proper man page for ConsoleKit*
[03:49] <ampd> defaultro: just get it from adobe
[03:49] <Nordom> somsip: I think the file is corrupt will try redownloading
[03:49] <somsip> Nordom: read the INSTALL file?
[03:50] <netsecure> actually i have a pretty general question, i am interested in developing and contributing to ubuntu, I have read that ubuntu tries to use python as a universal language for development, however i am a java developer
[03:50] <netsecure> so is there anyway i can help out in contributing to ubuntu?
[03:50] <|Anthony|> i was in here bout 3 hours ago and defaultro was going on about flash. how is he not sorted out yet?
[03:50] <mhumgood> there seams to be no way throw any setings I can see it in ati but it will not let me click it
[03:50] <ampd> |Anthony|: apparently he had some unity issues
[03:50] <malkauns> can anyone get the fullscreen visual bell to work in compiz on 12.04?
[03:50] <twitchie> !ubuntu-restricted-extras | defaultro
[03:50] <|Anthony|> mmm
[03:50] <tjz> Hello, anyone familiar with using EncFS ?
[03:50] <somsip> netsecure: this may help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[03:50] <WeThePeople> netsecure, come out with a bad @ss distro
[03:50] <blackshirt> Nordom: what the packages you are trying to compile ?
[03:51] <Devin__> Well I ran the command now only time will tell if I F'd it up
[03:51] <twitchie> !contribute | netsecure
[03:51] <i4n> Iran is very fucked up..
[03:52] <netsecure> i am an application developer and was developing usually web applications in high level language such as java and .NET, lately i realized i would enjoy system programming more, so thought of delving into linux deeper. Initally i had a choice between redhat or ubuntu
[03:52] <netsecure> but i chose ubuntu coz its a debian derivative
[03:52] <defaultro> i got it working
[03:52] <defaultro> i'm loving Ubuntu
[03:52] <defaultro> i was never able to install plugins on my Fedora firefox :)
[03:53] <i4n> is everyone running on Ubuntu here?>
[03:53] <|Anthony|> how about this. defaultro use chrome browser with pepper. adobe has dropped the linux flash player, but will provide security updates for 5 years. they have forwarded flash player devel over to google.
[03:53] <i4n> is backtrack any good?
[03:53] <twitchie> !ot | i4n
[03:53] <defaultro> what is pepper |Anthony|
[03:53] <|Anthony|> defaultro, use google. find answer. profit
[03:54] <ampd> |Anthony|: have you tried uzbl yet?
[03:54] <i4n> pofvifvvfv
[03:54] <i4n> 9duufdvodf
[03:54] <|Anthony|> now, on to a question that is NOT already answered on the interwebs... where is current and proper man pages/documentation for ConsolKit
[03:54] <i4n> has anyone heard of backtrack?
[03:55] <OerHeks> i4n backtrack is not supported here.
[03:55] <|Anthony|> ampd, no i have not
[03:55] <i4n> ok, well is it any good?
[03:55] <Devin__> Hey guys reload my manual page I think I was successful
[03:55] <twitchie> i4n: yes but this is not the channel to discuss it. Please feel free to head over to #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss
[03:55] <i4n> cool, ok.. sorry
[03:55] <Devin__> Ok so when I reboot now, should I get a option of which I would like to boot?
[03:56] <Devin__> because I did a mainline kernel???
[03:56] <Devin__> if I understand correctly
[03:56] <ampd> Devin__: yea, then run a uname -a in terminal and print screen that
[03:56] <|Anthony|> or you could /exec -o uname -a
[03:56] <|Anthony|> but what do i know
[03:57] <|Anthony|> where is the docs for ConsoleKit
[03:57] <i4n> #consoleKit
[03:58] <|Anthony|> oh funny
[03:58] <Devin__> Oh Cool
[03:59] <ampd> |Anthony|: I dont think consolkit is maintained anymore
[03:59] <|Anthony|> no it is not
[03:59] <|Anthony|> but
[03:59] <|Anthony|> it is still in use
[03:59] <|Anthony|> and a version for which there is no docs
[03:59] <|Anthony|> furthermore...
[03:59] <i4n> okc wehat time are you comming
[03:59] <|Anthony|> it is included in quantal
[03:59] <i4n> oops
[04:00] <|Anthony|> so there are obvious plans to continue using it
[04:00] <i4n> #ISEECATS!!
[04:00] <|Anthony|> is this the new trend? using depreciated things (consolekit udev) and undocumented things (lightdm)
[04:01] <|Anthony|> excuse my rage... just getting frustrated with *this*
[04:01] <i4n> what are you frustrated with?
[04:01] <Devin__> PART I COMPLETE
[04:01] <i4n> party where?
[04:01] <i4n> IP?
[04:02] <|Anthony|> trying to get a multiseat setup working... have it all going well except for audio. only one seat can access the audio hw at a time. working theory on that is an acl something something that consolekit needs to be involved in
[04:02] <i4n> v]osvfvjoj]vvv
[04:02] <i4n> vijf'vvooef[vjifvv
[04:02] <julius_> hi
[04:02] <i4n> sorry, well have you looked for a tutorial?>
[04:03] <i4n> perhaps a google search?
[04:03] <julius_> whats the keyboard shortcut to see all running apps?
[04:03] <|Anthony|> been banging my head for the last... idk week or so.
[04:03] <i4n> just do a google search
[04:03] <julius_> ive read it might be the windows logo key, but that one shows me all programs i can start
[04:03] <somsip> !google | i4n
[04:04] <i4n> do you have all updates installed?
[04:04] <|Anthony|> i4n, this is *uncharted* territory. there is a wealth of outdated info on the googles. some of which is in fact helpful, most of which is not.
[04:04] <Devin__> Ok so can you help me with part II
[04:04] <i4n> kjvv
[04:05] <i4n> do uou hae oovvopocvpov]viifvv
[04:05] <Devin__> I am not sure how I am supposed to rename the kernelversion string to my initials
[04:05] <i4n> clera
[04:05] <i4n> jjv'fkvjvzxv
[04:05] <i4n> clear
[04:05] <i4n> oifvhvkcv'vbvb
[04:05] <Devin__> ampd: ?
[04:06] <Devin__> blackshirt:
[04:06] <ampd> Devin__: I've never done that before, maybe just rename?
[04:06] <Devin__> how do I beep people
[04:06] <ampd> |Anthony|: I'd see if the arch people can help, apparently it works there.\
[04:07] <Devin__> jud
[04:07] <Devin__> ampd: did that work
[04:07] <ampd> Devin__: what?
[04:07] <|Anthony|> ampd, the arch wikis are very very good. so are the gentoo wikis. i've read them lol
[04:07] <Devin__> how do I like have a conversation with a specific person and make there computer beep
[04:07] <Devin__> everytime you send me a message I get a beep
[04:07] <Devin__> so i know to look at the screen
[04:07] <mhumgood> need help to use dual screen  it is cloned I need it extended
[04:08] <|Anthony|> Devin__, that is "nick alert"
[04:08] <OerHeks> !tab
[04:08] <ampd> Devin__: Start typing and tab for autocomplete of username
[04:08] <Devin__> bennypr0fane: ?
[04:08] <|Anthony|> mhumgood, what video card
[04:08] <mhumgood> ati 4870
[04:08] <Devin__> ampd: ohhh
[04:08] <Devin__> blackshirt:
[04:09] <Devin__> sweet
[04:09] <|Anthony|> mhumgood, i am unfamiliar with ati.
[04:09] <defaultro> hey folks, it's my wife who will be using this Ubuntu. Will I be able to install iTunes?
[04:09] <Devin__> blackshirt: hey do you know how to rename the kernelversion string in uname -a
[04:09] <|Anthony|> mhumgood, i am familiar with nvidia, but i would imagine the process to be similar
[04:10] <eddi3x3> I get this error amixer: Unable to find simple control 'PCM',0 from volwheel
[04:10] <twitchie> !itunes | defaultro
[04:10] <defaultro> oh
[04:10] <WeThePeople> defaultro, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnUrqcD4W_M
[04:10] <|Anthony|> mhumgood, are you comfortable editing xorg.conf
[04:11] <blackshirt> Devin__: you should set it when config
[04:11] <Devin__> ?
[04:11] <Devin__> blackshirt: how so
[04:11] <defaultro> so looks like she won't be able to connect her iphone to our new ubuntu and run itunes so she can manage her iphone
[04:11] <mhumgood> I'm a noob and well not really but if i have no choise
[04:11] <|Anthony|> !pm
[04:11] <mumet> uye
[04:12] <ampd> |Anthony|: are you launching dbus after consolekit?
[04:12] <|Anthony|> that was supposed to be !pm | mhumgood
[04:12] <blackshirt> Devin__: have you try to config the kernel source and build by your self
[04:12] <Devin__> blackshirt: I don't know what that means
[04:12] <mhumgood> also I can see what i need to click in the ati panal but it wont let me says I need to open the admin one but it dose not open
[04:12] <|Anthony|> ampd, i have not edited any init stuff so whatever ubuntus default is
[04:12] <twitchie> mhumgood, you should be using amdcccle to configure your ati card and displays
[04:12] <Devin__> I haven't started part II yet
[04:13] <twitchie> mhumgood, in that case run sudo amdcccle
[04:13] <ampd> |Anthony|: maybe GDM loads them in the wrong order? I honestly have no idea.
[04:13] <Devin__> blackshirt: how to i nick alert two people
[04:13] <blackshirt> Devin__: I think if you want to deep understand of kernel building process, you should try to compile by your self
[04:13] <Devin__> blackshirt: no I don't lol I just want to get this assignment done
[04:13] <|Anthony|> ampd, 12.04 uses lightdm (another mostly undocumented inclusion in ubuntu)
[04:13] <julius_> how can i add "indicator cpufreq" into the systray next to the clock?   starting it from a terminal works, but what if i want to move it?
[04:14] <Devin__> |Anthony|: how do I nick alert multiple people?
[04:14] <ampd> blackshirt: i thnk thats the second half of the addignment
[04:14] <ampd> Devin__: just type a name, tab, then another ane tab
[04:14] <blackshirt> place the nick want to alert Devin__
[04:14] <|Anthony|> Devin__, type each persons nick completely (use TAB completion)
[04:14] <Devin__> oh
[04:15] <Devin__> ampd blackshirt did that work?
[04:15] <OerHeks> Devin__, all you need is in the pastebin of your assignment .. why do you want us to do your homework?
[04:16] <twitchie> mhumgood, please do not send me dcc requests
[04:16] <|Anthony|> ha
[04:16] <Devin__> OerHeks: I know I made that manual
[04:16] <blackshirt> yes Devin__
[04:16] <blackshirt> :D
[04:16] <blackshirt> Devin__: you are a smart people :D
[04:16] <Devin__> blackshirt: lol
[04:16] <WeThePeople> mhumgood, http://askubuntu.com/questions/91221/how-to-tell-xubuntu-not-to-clone-but-to-expand-the-laptop-display-to-the-externa
[04:16] <ampd> Devin__: my sound is off
[04:17] <Devin__> blackshirt: I am much better on windows, but i kind of like ubuntu now
[04:17] <Devin__> ohhh
[04:17] <chinaxing> who know the perl's irc ?
[04:18] <Gnea> chinaxing: probably the people in #perl
[04:18] <twitchie> mhumgood, please keep chat to the channel, as suggested open a terminal or press alt+f2 and type sudo amdcccle
[04:19] <mhumgood> hey got it now have to do a reboot thanks huge man
[04:19] <Devin__> ampd blackshirt  whats the difference if I am getting my kernel from  kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel or ubuntu.kernel.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline
[04:19] <Devin__> ??
[04:22] <ampd> Devin__: the ubuntu one is packaged for ubuntu already
[04:23] <Devin__> the other is just unpackaged?
[04:23] <|Anthony|> Devin__, don't expect to have a happy system if you're using packages that aren't built for the kernel you're using
[04:23] <blackshirt> Devin__: kernel from kernel.org was a pristine kernel ...
[04:23] <julius_> Devin__, yes davin, thats exactly it
[04:23] <Devin__> |Anthony|: lol sorry what are the packages
[04:23] <Devin__> blackshirt: what do you mean pristine
[04:24] <karthick87> I am not able to login, I am getting the following error ==> "Chroot: can't execute '/sbin/load_policy': No such file or directory mount: mounting none on /selinux failed: No such device" How to fix it ??
[04:24] <Devin__> blackshirt: like good or is pristine a code name for something
[04:25] <ampd> Devin__: the official version, unmodified
[04:26] <Devin__> ampd: which is the official version?
[04:26] <Devin__> ampd: oh the kernel.org?
[04:26] <ampd> Devin__: yea
[04:26] <ampd> Devin__: and the ubuntu one is jsut the official ubuntu kernel, packaged for ubuntu
[04:26] <Devin__> ampd: can I backdate afterwords if I have problems, say back to 3.2.0
[04:27] <Devin__> |Anthony|: what do you mean by for me package
[04:27] <ampd> Devin__: when you boot up you get the option to select what kernel to load, right?
[04:27] <Devin__> no I didn't
[04:27] <Devin__> it just booted up again
[04:27] <Devin__> but with the new kernel
[04:28] <redwarriors25_> how will i repair this upon installing printer driver
[04:28] <redwarriors25_> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: lsb (>= 3.2)
[04:28] <ampd> Devin__: ubuntu may have the grub menu disabled?
[04:29] <Devin__> ampd: maybe, I am also using VmWare
[04:29] <lima> hi. can anyone help change my gdm skin from the terminal?
[04:29] <|Anthony|> Devin__, the ubuntu team makes great effort to ensure that packages included in the version specific repos work together. if you go outside of these repos and include packages from third party sources, there is no guarantee that it will work. now, if you get a kernel from a third party source... (imo) all bets are off
[04:30] <Devin__> |Anthony|: thanks, so can I backdate do you know? I have to do this for my assignment but If i decide to go back can I
[04:30] <|Anthony|> regardless of how "pristine" the kernel might be. don't be confused by "modified"
[04:30] <defaultro> what is the binary for Ubuntu Software center?
[04:31] <redwarriors25_> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: lsb (>= 3.2)
[04:31] <redwarriors25_> how will i repair this upon installing printer driver
[04:31] <OerHeks> redwarriors25_, try sudo apt-get install -f
[04:33] <|Anthony|> i'm done answering questions that have been answered here and on the internet. especially if you're supposed to be learning. make the effort and search out the answers to these basic questions. you might learn something along the way. this help chan is for real time help for ubuntu users that are either totally new to linux and ubuntu, or for those who have made the effort to search out the answer on their own, but it is not available
[04:33] <blackshirt> Devin__: that's meaning, the kernel code maintained by linus torvald among all kernel developers and released to public regular to schedule release
[04:33] <blackshirt> Devin__: the mainline kernel was from ubuntu core developer, and fetch them from pristine kernel (kernel.org) and some add patch (maybe), improvement (specific to ubuntu) and included on ubuntu releases
[04:33] <blackshirt> karthick87: are you have configure your selinux ?
[04:33] <blackshirt> karthick87: join #selinux
[04:33] <malkauns> how do u get the visual bell to work in 12.04?
[04:33] <Devin__> blackshirt: ohh ok I get it
[04:33] <Devin__> blackshirt: so any idea on how i might go about changing that kernel version string
[04:33] <rgenito> aww man
[04:34] <rgenito> ok well i GOTTA ask...
[04:34] <rgenito> does anyone here use Tribler?
[04:34] <Devin__> blackshirt: do I need to change it in the source code before i compile it?
[04:34] <Devin__> ls
[04:34] <rgenito> looks like #tribler has no one in it... but i'm wondering if anyone can access tribler.org
[04:34] <Devin__> opps that was meant for ubuntu
[04:34] <OerHeks> !info software-center
[04:34] <blackshirt> Devin__: was like I told to you before, you should do it when you config your kernel ...
[04:35] <rgenito> Devin__, it's not as bad as (back in the day) me typing something like, "get womenHorseFuck.avi" or something
[04:35] <Devin__> when am I configuring it
[04:35] <rgenito> ...accidently typing that in IRC instead of FTP console lol
[04:35]  * rgenito curiosity
[04:35] <Devin__> rgenito: lol!!!
[04:36] <freedomrun> hello .. there is some confusion here at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI .. the problem that could make confusion is done when AMD divided it`s drivers and now radeon HD3000 series are called legancy which are not the same "legancy" cards the manual talks about .. please could someone fix that so the new users won`t be confused more than it is necesary
[04:36] <Devin__> blackshirt: should I do it some how when I run the sudo dpkg -i *.deb command
[04:38] <defaultro> is LIbreoffice Writer the Winword version for liunux?
[04:38] <OerHeks> defaultro, yes writer ~ word
[04:38] <defaultro> thanks
[04:39] <defaultro> am I right that we can use the ttf fonts in Windows?
[04:39] <defaultro> majority of the fonts installed is  not showing up in Writer
[04:39] <d1gital> what's the best way to pipe a socket over ssh?
[04:39] <defaultro> what do you want to do digital?
[04:40] <d1gital> I need a tap-and-dye, and some WD-40!
[04:40] <blackshirt> Devin__: I don't know what are you trying to do :D
[04:41] <defaultro> ?
[04:41] <d1gital> say I want to stream audio, multiple streams to multiple clients, encrypted.
[04:41] <defaultro> maybe use shout then tunnel it in ssh
[04:42] <Devin__> blackshirt: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?page=view&resid=6FC53C5C75E5DBE0!1535&authkey=!AOu5CqV30Mf56bg
[04:42] <Devin__> blackshirt: you can look at the Labs > lab 01 file
[04:42] <d1gital> defaultro: so use an IP tunnel as opposed to writing to a socket?
[04:42] <Devin__> if you look under part II
[04:42] <Devin__> blackshirt: If ou look under part II he asks me to rename the kernel version to my initials
[04:43] <defaultro> either will do
[04:43] <defaultro> not really familiar with sockets but if you meant tcp sockets, you can setup a listener i guess
[04:44] <OerHeks> come on blackshirt do his homework :-D
[04:45] <Devin__> blackshirt: is that tar.gz file need to be extracted ??
[04:47] <d1gital> so I know MPD can output to icecast... I wonder how well MPD handles living alongside other mpds..  I guess it could probably be run as a nonpriveleged user
[04:47] <karthick87> blackshirt: No it is a new installation
[04:47] <Devin__> hey what command would I use to extract a gz file
[04:48] <d1gital> Devin__: gunzip
[04:48] <tsimpson> Devin__: .gz, or .tar.gz?
[04:48] <Devin__> tar.gz
[04:48] <tsimpson> use tar then, tar xvf some_file.tar.gz
[04:48] <awc737> is there a way to control any heat or underclocking settings on a laptop (linux mint, ubu based)?
[04:48] <awc737> this thing is burning my balls off
[04:49] <blackshirt1> Devin__: in wich part ? document, assignment, labs ?
[04:49] <Devin__> blackshirt1: sorry labs
[04:49] <blackshirt1> Devin__: wait a second
[04:49] <Devin__> labs>Lab01 go down to where is says part II
[04:50] <Devin__> tsimpson: so should it look like this tar linux-3.2.2.tar.gz
[04:51] <tsimpson> Devin__: no, "tar xvf linux-3.2.2.tar.gz", the "xvf" part are arguments to the tar command. in this case 'x' for eXtract, 'v' for Verbose, and 'f' for Filename
[04:51] <OerHeks> !mint | awc737 maybe it is a mint issue
[04:51] <blackshirt1> Devin__: my connection gets slow connection
[04:51] <Devin__> blackshirt1: oh sorry, can you not see it?
[04:52] <awc737> it's not an 'issue', its just my laptop, it gets scorching ho
[04:52] <awc737> t
[04:52] <Devin__> blackshirt1: do you know if I have to extract that .tar.gz
[04:52] <awc737> i was wondering if ubuntu had a power performance type setting
[04:52] <blackshirt1> Devin__: not yet finish :D
[04:52] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[04:52] <OerHeks> awc737, still a mint issue
[04:53] <awc737> its a dell issue then OerHeks
[04:53] <blackshirt1> Devin__: skydrive was suck
[04:53] <awc737> lol mint = ubuntu mins shitty desktop
[04:53] <awc737> its the same softwar
[04:53] <Devin__> blackshirt1: lol its the only option I had, i could jsut send you my onenote linke
[04:54] <xangua> awc737: drop that language please
[04:54] <blackshirt1> Devin__: okey
[04:54] <blackshirt1> Devin__: just for your link I get slower connections :D
[04:55] <awc737> sorry
[04:55] <Devin__> blackshirt1: you see it now
[04:56] <blackshirt1> Devin__: very bad :D
[04:56] <Devin__> blackshirt1: do you want my pastebin link
[04:56] <Devin__> blackshirt1: http://pastebin.com/52etPCNQ
[04:57] <Devin__> blackshirt1: opps thats expired hold on
[04:58] <Devin__> blackshirt1: http://pastebin.com/b5DRuA8J
[04:59] <blackshirt1> Devin__: I look at pastebin
[04:59] <blackshirt1> :D
[05:01] <blackshirt1> Devin__: okay, what the problems is ?
[05:03] <Devin__> blackshirt1: how do I install the kernel the second way
[05:03] <Devin__> I installed the tar.gz
[05:03] <Devin__> blackshirt1: I installed the tar.gz, I got the 3.2.2 release
[05:05] <blackshirt1> Devin__: you should get a pristine kernel from kernel.org, download them, unpack them, configure it, and compile it... you should need some toold to build kernel
[05:06] <Devin__> blackshirt1: Ok I have downloaded it, and I unpacked it I think
[05:06] <Devin__> its in a folder now
[05:06] <Devin__> blackshirt1: its in a folder now completely extracted
[05:06] <maik> has anyone else noticed the fglrx driver appears to be slower than the radeon driver?
[05:07] <MiteshShah> How to detect ubuntu os is Desktop or server i'm used dpkg --list | grep ubuntu-desktop is there any better way to do this?
[05:07] <maik> when i use the radeon driver and drag windows around it's nice and smooth, but iwth fglrx it's noticably slow and choppy
[05:08] <gogeta> MiteshShah: does not matter only diffrence is the set of defult packages
[05:08] <gogeta> MiteshShah: and server normaly has no ui included
[05:11] <gogeta> maik: thats becouse amd linux gpu drivers are fail
[05:11] <blackshirt1> Devin__: I think yes
[05:12] <gogeta> maik: fglrx is also not compiz frendly
[05:12] <Devin__> blackshirt1: so what do I do to get this installed
[05:13] <gogeta> Devin__: if your just trying to get the latest kernel just use  a ppa save you alot of work
[05:13] <nickBuntu> Hey all
[05:14] <Devin__> gogeta: no I am doing a HW assignment and it wants me do get it from kernel.org
[05:14] <woot-0854_> hola
[05:14] <nickBuntu> has anyone had experience with or know how to mount samba shares loged in through shh?
[05:14] <gogeta> Devin__: you will need build essentals its has everything you need to compile one
[05:15] <Jigs> can any1 help in solving MYSQL error
[05:15] <nickBuntu> I've been trying gvfs-mount smb:// etc  which work fine on the local machine from CLI,  But when logged into another through shh it doesn't work
[05:15] <Devin__> gogeta: I am following this link right now, will this work ? http://linuxtweaking.blogspot.com/2011/02/how-to-compile-kernel-from-kernelorg-in.html
[05:15] <MiteshShah> gogeta, i know that but i'm making script to install ffmpeg & node.js so enduser can easily install this packages  and as per ffmpeg guide they have some different packages for the server and desktop so i'm thinking to install only needed packages for the servers and desktop
[05:16] <Jigs> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[05:16] <Jigs> gave me solution
[05:17] <Jigs> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[05:17] <gogeta> MiteshShah: the user cant run apt-get install ffmpeg?
[05:19] <Jigs> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[05:19] <Jigs> need solution
[05:20] <MiteshShah> gogeta, we needed some custom features not all the features of ffmpeg so i needed those features only
[05:20] <gogeta> MiteshShah: will just do uname -a
[05:20] <gogeta> MiteshShah: it will tell you if you have the sever or genrec kernel
[05:20] <rhizmoe> what is a/the DLNA server that doesn't transcode at all?
[05:21] <blackshirt> :-D
[05:22] <gogeta> MiteshShah: if you have unity there probly desktops
[05:22] <MiteshShah> gogeta, ubuntu server has generic-pae & desktop shows generic only
[05:22] <gogeta> MiteshShah: then there desktops with server softwhere
[05:22] <MiteshShah> gogeta, ok
[05:22] <jilt007> How to monitor all my system in a network
[05:23] <Jigs> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[05:23] <gogeta> MiteshShah: eg  they have unity installed
[05:23] <blackshirt> :)
[05:24] <blackshirt> Devin__: still there guys
[05:24] <blackshirt> ?
[05:24] <Devin__> blackshirt: yeah jsut looking around to find some solutions
[05:24] <MiteshShah> gogeta, still i've dought how ubuntu detect while updating system weather the system has desktop or server?
[05:25] <gogeta> MiteshShah: generic-pae  it just the 32 bit kernel with extra ram support
[05:25] <blackshirt> Devin__: you should try to config
[05:25] <blackshirt> Devin__: it's a long process :D
[05:25] <Devin__> I don't know how to do that
[05:25] <blackshirt> Devin__: have you downloaded it and unpack it ?
[05:25] <gogeta> MiteshShah: it would say server on the kernel
[05:26] <Devin__> blackshirt: yeah I have a folder now called linux_3.2.2
[05:26] <Jigs> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[05:26] <Devin__> blackshirt: and it has folders in it like arch block crypto documentation. ... It looks like the full thing
[05:27] <Devin__> blackshirt: did I wan't that or did I want to leave it somewhat compressed in like a tar or a gz
[05:27] <gogeta> MiteshShah: your custom ffmpeg will work on both no worrys
[05:27] <blackshirt> Devin__: yes, that was uncompressed version from your kernel sources have been downloaded
[05:27] <Devin__> blackshirt: so I should have it that way it is now to proceed?
[05:28] <z0NE> invite me to security
[05:28] <nickBuntu> no one with gvfs experiemce through a ssh connection?
[05:28] <vvpalin> what is gvfs ?
[05:28] <blackshirt> Devin__: if you want to compile by yourself, read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[05:28] <nickBuntu> Gnome Virtual File System
[05:29] <blackshirt> vvpalin: that was gnome vfs
[05:29] <nickBuntu> another method of mounting file systems.  but uses the user and deosn't need root access
[05:29] <vvpalin> gotcha ... no sorry ive done sftp before tho, works like a dream
[05:30] <Devin__> blackshirt: yeah i was reading that earlier, but I don't have Edgy Hardy or intrepid do I, because i am dealing with strait linux, not ubuntu right?
[05:30] <z0NE> free node hes innocent
[05:30] <nickBuntu> I'm logging into an shh session on another box and .gvfs doesn't seem to work remotely.  It work slocally just fine, but through ssh it has prob;ems I think. Unless I'm using incorrectly.  Which is more than likely
[05:31] <Jigs> is any 1 is there to help me
[05:31] <nickBuntu> What's up jigs?
[05:31] <Jigs> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[05:32] <Jigs> when i fire this query:- mysql shermanbros < CREATEDATABASEUSERS.sql
[05:32] <Jigs> error coming as ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[05:33] <somsip> Jigs: you need to add -p to your command line so it prompts you for your mySQL root user password. But this is not a ubuntu support question so please continue in #mysql
[05:33] <blackshirt> Devin__: if you not try to config and build kernel by yourself, you wouldn't learn what you want :d
[05:33] <blackshirt> Devin__: I just give you a advice :D
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> seems like my square corrupt mouse pointer fixed itself with updates...
[05:33] <z0NE> plusdeaf
[05:33] <Devin__> blackshirt: yeah i agree, where do I even start though
[05:33] <somsip> lotuspsychje: wooo :-)
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> tnx to all who tryed to help this issue
[05:33] <Devin__> blackshirt: I am on 12.4 so is that the lucid>??
[05:33] <blackshirt> Devin__: greats learning guys
[05:34] <Devin__> blackshirt: Is 12.4 considered lucid
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> somsip: :p
[05:34] <blackshirt> Devin__: no
[05:35] <Devin__> blackshirt: If I am dealing with linux sorce code does that even apply, because are those names ubuntu names
[05:35] <Guest86019> daniela te quiero demaciado :
[05:35] <Guest86019> *-*
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> !es | Guest86019
[05:38] <blackshirt> Devin__: 12.04 was named with precise pangolin :D
[05:38] <blackshirt> lucid was 10.04 lts
[05:38] <Devin__> blackshirt: wheres my config file
[05:39] <tapas> ok, what does this tell me: (chromium-browser:3591): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: No GSettings schemas are installed on the system
[05:39] <tapas> same for nautilus
[05:39] <tapas> and firefox
[05:39] <tapas> Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[05:40] <tapas> in dmesg: [  348.671244] nautilus[3602] trap int3 ip:7fb2e644ffdb sp:7fff329989b0 error:0
[05:40] <blackshirt> Devin__: you should the guide step by step :D
[05:40] <tapas> can't google it since all my browsers depend on gtk ;D
[05:40] <Devin__> blackshirt: I am following the guide but it doesn't list pangolin
[05:42] <gogeta> tapas: you can install a cli broswer like lynks :)
[05:43] <tapas> gogeta: actually konqueror works, too :D
[05:43] <tapas> also it's either links or lynx ;D
[05:43] <gogeta> tapas: heh you brake gtk
[05:43] <tapas> [two different once]
[05:43] <tapas> ones.
[05:43] <N03L> Hey guys.
[05:43] <tapas> gogeta: yeah..
[05:43] <N03L> I recently installed Ubuntu 12.04 via USB boot.
[05:43] <hatori> diven__ greats
[05:43] <kujablak> Hi, I'm looking for a software similar to wammu/gammu except for Android phones ?
[05:44] <hatori> n03l thats great
[05:44] <tapas> since i carefully avoid touching any gtk config stuff.. i wonder how i broke it..
[05:44] <N03L> Upon my first installation attempt, I failed, a msg popped up saying  'grub failed to install' or something along that line.
[05:44] <gogeta> tapas: you try using dpkg --reconfigure
[05:44] <N03L> I initiated another installation and it worked.
[05:44] <gogeta> tapas: or did you brake it mid update
[05:44] <tapas> gogeta: running an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade first..
[05:45] <N03L> HOwever, now I'm stuck with 2 installations. I partitioned my drive twice. How do I delete the first installation?
[05:45] <tapas> gogeta: nah, i just rebooted.. no update process at that time..
[05:45] <N03L> Also, I'm dualbooting with Windows 7/
[05:45] <gogeta> tapas: strange
[05:45] <tapas> gogeta: indeed
[05:45] <tapas> gogeta: also what package would you recommend for dpkg --reconfigure?
[05:46] <gogeta> tapas: gtk i would assume
[05:46] <tapas> aaah, it might have been the attempt to install skype..
[05:46] <gogeta> tapas: gtk2 or 3
[05:46] <Jordan_U> N03L: Moving a partition "to the left" can be a very slow operation. It would probably be faster and easier (since it's a fresh install anyway) to whipe both installations then install again.
[05:47] <gogeta> tapas: thers a command for that heh lemmie get it
[05:48] <N03L> Jordan_U: I'm afraid that the installation might fail again.
[05:49] <gogeta> tapas: try sudo dpkg configure -a
[05:49] <tapas> gogeta: ok, once the apt-get upgrade is through..
[05:49] <N03L> The only inconvenience is that the first installation, I partitioned my drive to like 100GB. So I'm running out of space.
[05:49] <gogeta> tapas: that should resume any configs that did not compleate
[05:49] <N03L> WIth only 25GB left for Windows.
[05:49] <Guest32254> cześć
[05:50] <tapas> gogeta: good to know :D
[05:50] <gogeta> tapas: worst case you drop down to cli purge  gtk and reinstall
[05:50] <gogeta> tapas: that will restore the defult configs
[05:51] <tapas> gogeta: ok..
[05:51] <gogeta> tapas: ill wager ubuntu whont like that to mutch lol
[05:53] <drcode> hi all
[05:53] <hatori> hi drcode
[05:54] <drcode> I have found that ati amd 7750 opengl dosn't work on kubuntu , it worked perfect under ubuntu and unity
[05:54] <ansi_> please someone help after doing sudo apt-get update i am getting this error message   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223933/
[05:54] <cyberman> admin
[05:55] <ansi_> please someone help        after doing sudo apt-get update i am getting this error message   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223933/
[05:55] <tapas> ansi_: remove the offending lines from your sources.lst
[05:55] <ansi_> tapas how do i do that??
[05:55] <gogeta> ansi_: your ppa must be down
[05:55] <tapas> ansi_: or rather comment them out..
[05:55] <tapas> ansi_: take an editor and edit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[05:55] <hatori> drcode, i think thats specific to kubuntu, have you asked in #kubuntu?
[05:56] <tapas> ansi_: sources.list really
[05:56] <ansi_> tapas pls dont mind but i am new to linux and ubuntu so i request you to guide me
[05:57] <tapas> ansi_: a] open a text editor b] open /etc/apt/sources.list c] put a hash # in front of those lines that match your error message
[05:57] <tapas> oh, and you have to do that as root..
[05:57] <tapas> ansi_: i have my own system breakage atm, so i can't help you in more detail...
[05:58] <hatori> tapas, you should open the editor with root privileges to edit sources.list
[05:58] <tapas> 07:57 < tapas> oh, and you have to do that as root..
[05:58] <ansi_> opened the file as root   but which are the lines that i need to put #
[05:59] <gogeta> ansi_: same ones that have the error
[05:59] <tapas> thanks skype, for a] not working and b] fscking up my system..
[05:59] <drcode> no
[05:59] <gogeta> tapas: lol
[05:59] <drcode> I will try  , thanx
[05:59] <twitchie> ppa's should be removed from software-center .. edit->software sources-> other software tab
[05:59] <gogeta> tapas: it is microsoft code
[06:00] <Devin__> blackshirt: hey you still there
[06:00] <tapas> gogeta: ah, that explains it..
[06:00] <tapas> gogeta: where they aquired?
[06:00] <chuck> Ubuntu Newb: I know for certain that my computer has been hacked. I lost root privileges, I cannot access recovery mode; it says the password is wrong, my CD ROM has been Disabled so that I cannot reinstall the OS
[06:00] <gogeta> tapas: yea they bought skype a wile ago
[06:01] <hatori> devin__, blackshirt was gone ...
[06:01] <gogeta> chuck: go in your bios and turn the cd rom back on
[06:01] <ansi_> tapas i found the other three.. but for this what should i comment W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D8AD4DE78EEBB0CA
[06:01] <hatori> chuck... You should ensure it
[06:01] <chuck> gogeta: it wont give me that option in bios
[06:02] <woot-0854_> #http://ppalaunchpad.net oneiric
[06:02] <gogeta> chuck: prety shure they didnt mod your bios look in the boot order
[06:02] <ansi_> tapas i found the other three.. but for this what should i comment W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D8AD4DE78EEBB0CA
[06:03] <chuck> gogeta, I have tried to change the boot order already. It wont allow the ROM Disable to be Enabled
[06:03] <gogeta> chuck: you can also boot into single user mode and recover root
[06:03] <chuck> gogeta: How?
[06:04] <gogeta> chuck: in grub add init 1 to the kernel line
[06:04] <gogeta> chuck: it will boot into a single user mode from there you can change the root password
[06:05] <chuck> gogeta, I have a second computer to access info online. Is there a step by step webpage?
[06:05] <chuck> gogeta THANKS, I'll try
[06:05] <gogeta> chuck: init 1 will boot into root only mode
[06:05] <gogeta> chuck: and you will be logged in as root
[06:06] <gogeta> chuck: its a failsafe on lost passwords etc
[06:06] <chuck> gogeta thanks again. Im out
[06:07] <jilt007> chuck:  but by default /  is in read only mode  ao you have to mount it in rw mode  there when you wil get terminal
[06:07] <gogeta> chuck: then just type passwd and it will ask to set a new pass
[06:07] <tapas> reinstalling and reconfiguring all these glib, gtk, etc.. packages didn't help :(
[06:07] <jilt007> chuck  then use passwd after  mounting rw
[06:07] <tapas> and google is cvery unhelpful when it comes to this error
[06:08] <gogeta> tapas: may not take effect intill reboot
[06:08] <gogeta> tapas: being thats stuff in use
[06:08] <rahul_banyal> Hii, I can see shared folder of win7 in ubuntu but can't see the share folder of ubuntu in win7, can anyone pls help me?
[06:08] <jilt007> rahul_banyal:  samba?
[06:09] <gogeta> tapas: or at last rebooting xorg
[06:09] <gogeta> least
[06:09] <jilt007> rahul_banyal:  selinux policy set ?
[06:09] <hatori> jilt007, seliinux was not used by ubuntu by default
[06:10] <woot-0854_> rahul is a cool name
[06:10] <tapas> gogeta: thanks for the tips.. will /etc/init.d/lightdm restart ;D
[06:10] <jilt007> hatori: ok
[06:11] <tapas> gogeta: no dice :(
[06:12] <tapas> did a whole system reboot..
[06:13] <yank> what is the use of python-software-properties
[06:13] <yank> at our place we install it before adding a launchpad ppa
[06:13] <yank> although do this without installing python-software-properties..So what does it do ?
[06:15] <gogeta> tapas: darn
[06:16] <tapas> and /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/ is populated..
[06:16] <gogeta> tapas: the other guy will be back to its init=1 lol
[06:16] <tapas> which is what dpkg -L gsettings-desktop-schemas tells me..
[06:16] <gogeta> tapas: been a wile sense i had to brake in my own system
[06:17] <Jordan_U> gogeta: Simply '1' will boot into single user mode, and the "init" parameter (seen as completely separate) will be ignored as it's meaningless on its own. So they will still get single user mode. But, they already have tried single user mode because that's what "recovery mode" is, so still no progress.
[06:18] <gogeta> Jordan_U: hes not back yet so
[06:19] <gogeta> Jordan_U: if he gets into runlevel 1 he can get his root acess back
[06:19] <[deXter]> Hi all, what's a good streaming audio player that supports AAC streams and ID3 tags?
[06:19] <gogeta> Jordan_U: just dont see how they crippled his cd rom
[06:19] <tapas> ok..
[06:20] <Jordan_U> gogeta: For no particularly sane reason that I can think of, if a root password is set you need to enter it to get into single user mode. Ubuntu just doesn't have a root password by default (and one shouldn't create one).
[06:20] <tapas> it seems to be user specific.. added another user and started a gnome session
[06:20] <Captain_Claw> clementine is a music player that supports both those things.
[06:20] <tapas> works..
[06:20] <Jordan_U> gogeta: I'm almost certain they're simply mistaken. I doubt they've been "hacked" at all.
[06:21] <tapas> i guess i'll have to reset all gtk and gnome related config files..
[06:21] <tapas> which is a pita
[06:21] <gogeta> Jordan_U: well worst case as long as its not a dell pull the cmos battery
[06:22] <gogeta> Jordan_U: reset all bios settings to stock
[06:24] <gogeta> Jordan_U: dells use a eprom pulling cmos does not work
[06:25] <woot-0854_> gogeta, dells eprom can be reset
[06:25] <gogeta> woot-0854_: if you short it but for the uskills it can = system death
[06:25] <gogeta> unskilled
[06:25] <woot-0854_> gogeta, I got lucky :)
[06:26] <tapas> why is gtk so brittle? :D
[06:26] <tapas> oh well, i'll setup my user's home directory anew..
[06:26] <gogeta> tapas: :( dunno i never broke it
[06:27] <tapas> gogeta: it's the one thing that breaks the most in my 10+ years linux experience..
[06:27] <tapas> anyways.. bbiab..
[06:27] <gogeta> tapas: 10 years never broke gtk
[06:28] <gogeta> tapas: did brake kde once thow
[06:29] <woot-0854_> gogeta, I pulled the power unlached the cmos pulled the processor cable, replaced power cable hit power button.  held powerbutton till machine went down again.  waited for the orange light to go off, pulled power and connected processor one more power cycle and it worked
[06:29] <Hatori> for gnome, you can easily reset gnome setting... Reset it and blah,you have an new look
[06:29] <woot-0854_> gogeta, I replaced the cmos before the second power on
[06:29] <gogeta> woot-0854_: nice on my old c610 you have to use a paper clip to short it on a certen pin
[06:30] <gogeta> woot-0854_: i have not had the curage to do it and the syste works fine
[06:30] <gogeta> system
[06:30] <woot-0854_> gogeta, no jumper?   lame and ya dangerous
[06:30] <gogeta> woot-0854_: luckly  it has a hot key for boot order
[06:32] <gogeta> woot-0854_: but these days it just sits on the shelf
[06:32] <gogeta> woot-0854_: nedding parts im to lazy to order
[06:33] <gogeta> woot-0854_: and i got 3 newer laptops
[06:33] <gogeta> woot-0854_: like with any older tec cant sell it dont wanna trash it
[06:34] <gogeta> woot-0854_: was thinking of getting one of the ide to sd card adaptors being old ide drive are a bit hard to find these days
[06:35] <MonkeyDust> !enter
[06:35] <woot-0854_> gogeta, ot try wary puppy for old stuff :)  I have one ide 27g
[06:42] <gogeta> woot-0854_: yep but the drive is dead i did run puppy off a live cd
[06:43] <Nordom> I am having problems installing a .tgz, I downloaded androdi-sdk and use the archive extracter program to extra it to a folder, I then use termincal and used CD to open to said folder, once inside I type sudo ./configure but says "command not found" I thought the file might be corupt so I redled it but same problem. Any pointers in how to install it?
[06:44] <Hatori> nordom. Configure was script on your sources dir
[06:45] <Nordom> Hatori, then what should I do?
[06:45] <Hatori> nordom, if it wasn't on there maybe you get corrupted packages..
[06:45] <Nordom> direct from androids website!?
[06:45] <Nordom> twice?
[06:45] <Hatori> Try redownload it or maybe there install files need to read
[06:45] <Nordom> well actually 3 times
[06:46] <Hatori> nordom,i think there are some guide on them
[06:48] <Nordom> the read me that came with conveintly forgot the instillation bit
[06:49] <Hatori> nordom, maybe some .bin / .run files
[06:50] <Nordom> well I looked in the folder and nothing like that besides read me and other folders in it, but I am ubuntu nub so it there is some special command it is eluding me
[06:50] <deffrag> Hi! How do I configure HDDs in soft raid when they already have OSs installed?
[06:52] <Nordom> welll , I am just going to dl it from ppa, so
[06:52] <Nordom> FU androids website =/
[06:52] <woot-0854_> lots of ppa problums tonight
[06:53] <Nordom> um yeah, i just got an error just now =(
[06:53] <Nordom> sigh another day without the SDK
[06:53] <Nordom> woot-0854: I assume ur talking about the time-conflict-error right?
[06:54] <woot-0854_> Nordom, I haven't been really reading into it just lots of failed updates and sources,lst customizes
[06:55] <Nordom> well, since my I am unable to pull any thing, and u said its buggy, I am thinking my current problem is related to that
[06:55] <Nordom> oh well theres always tomorrow =/
[06:55] <woot-0854_> Nordom, try distro.ibiblio.org?
[06:56] <Nordom> I could but I am lazy ;) going to play with customizing ubuntus gui =D
[06:56] <Nordom> only need to burn 30 more min or work the way it is, no reason to work to hard ;D
[07:01] <ozzloy> i used http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html to install java 1.7, but i want to have java 1.6 instead for eclipse android development.  how do i do that?
[07:02] <woot-0854_> ozzloy, you know about distro.ibiblio.org?
[07:02] <MonkeyDust> ozzloy  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_.28Sun.29_Java_6
[07:02] <ozzloy> woot-0854_, no
[07:02] <ozzloy> MonkeyDust, checking it out now
[07:03] <aneek> hi there
[07:03] <aneek> anyone know ubuntu samba sharing
[07:04] <aneek> hello does any one here ubuntu expert
[07:04] <aneek> able to help me
[07:04] <woot-0854_> !samba
[07:04] <aneek> yeah samba
[07:06] <tapas> hmm, different question: i asked this several times on #kde, but never got an answer:
[07:06] <rigo> hi
[07:06] <rigo> can you help me installing a driver for tvcard?
[07:06] <tapas> someone know how to make kde offer to mount my encrypted (second) hd?
[07:06] <tapas> nautilus shows it without problems..
[07:07] <rigo> or.. how can i see if a hw driver is installed?
[07:08] <rigo> i'm having troubles installing this http://pikacode.com/liplianin/s2-liplianin-v35/commit/45d9a7ea64dc
[07:09] <tapas> oh, dolphin actually shows it..
[07:10] <ozzloy> it looks like i already have openjdk-6-jre installed.  how do i use it instead of oracle's 1.7 jre?
[07:11] <Nordom> anyone use a program like myunity or know of programs like it?
[07:12] <aneek> hi all
[07:12] <aneek> any one know samba sharing ?
[07:14] <tapas> aneek: be more specific, please
[07:14] <MonkeyDust> Nordom  there's also ccsm, compiz-config
[07:14] <woot-0854_> is beryl still working?
[07:14] <Nordom> thx MonkeyDust!
[07:14] <MonkeyDust> woot-0854_  no
[07:14] <aneek> tapas i neew to know how to access samba sharing via cli
[07:15] <aneek> i need to know
[07:15] <tapas> aneek: which part of sharing?
[07:15] <woot-0854_> MonkeyDust, ok :(
[07:15] <ozzloy> cool, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:15] <ozzloy> wooo
[07:15] <tapas> aneek: search for shares, etc?
[07:15] <woot-0854_> ozzloy, gratz
[07:15] <aneek> yeah actually there some user folder on samba server those shared
[07:16] <aneek> but which command is use to access them
[07:16] <aneek> ?
[07:16] <aneek> could u help me on that
[07:16] <tapas> aneek: i think the command is smbclient or something
[07:16] <aneek> yeah i check out in some example
[07:17] <aneek> tapas command was same what not able to get that senario
[07:17] <tapas> aneek: sorry, i don't understand what you're saying..
[07:18] <aneek> tapas i search for help on google as well
[07:18] <ozzloy> woot-0854_, thanks
[07:18] <Guest31800> I am trying to make a bootable cd for a mac, but it just isn't working. After I boot of the CD I just get this flashing line that doesn't do anything. Its really annoying
[07:18] <aneek> command that u r telling me smbclient was there in some example
[07:18] <aneek> but i didn't understand those given examples
[07:18] <IdleOne> aneek: What is your native language?
[07:19] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset > Guest31800
[07:19] <aneek> hindi  idleone
[07:20] <aneek> guest31800 try unetbootin utility for task
[07:22] <blackshirt> we
[07:22] <aneek> if any one can check this out samba sharing for me
[07:22] <Guest31800> So this black line problem doesn't even enter the boot screen
[07:22] <cebor> hi is it ok to set the home dirs for my systemusers in /opt/  (like: /opt/teamspeak for sysuser temspeak)
[07:22] <aneek> i can give my teamvieawer
[07:22] <jilt007> I have two system one has iptables rules for ssh to reject connect , how to bypass this from my other system
[07:22] <Guest31800> or rather white line problem. When booting off the ubuntu CD on my macbook pro I just see a white line flashing and that is it. I really need to get ubuntu working and would appreciate any help
[07:23] <aneek> guest31800 try with pendrive for booting
[07:23] <vartotojas> morning. I guess i need the newest jawa version. The problem is that i dont know how to install it
[07:23] <vartotojas> can anyone help me out?
[07:24] <cebor> or should i place all in /srv/ ?
[07:25] <twitchie> !java | vartotojas
[07:31] <MarcoFe> ragazzi buongiorno
[07:31] <ade> Morning all, quick question... I know it's possible to dual boot win7 and Ubuntu, but is it possible to have more than one Ubuntu install (so three os in total)??
[07:31] <MarcoFe> una curiosità
[07:32] <llutz> ade: sure
[07:32] <MarcoFe> ma come faccio a migliorare la grafica su kde quando uso eclipse, quindi java?
[07:32] <MonkeyDust> !it
[07:33] <ade> llutz: cheers bud, I knew it was possible to have four patritions max, but wasn;t sure how many could be root
[07:33] <fidel> ade: yep triple or whatever booting is possible in theory - but personaly i would always prefer using virtual machines instead of messing around with rebooting all day long. (personal preference)
[07:33] <MonkeyDust> ade  four primary partitions, that is
[07:33] <llutz> ade: you can create an extended partition holding logical drives to use for linux-installations. you don't need primaries for linux
[07:34] <llutz> fidel: +1
[07:34] <ade> fidel: yes me too, but have to do some hw tests (instead of vm ones) so didn't want to mess things up. Thanks.
[07:34] <ade> llutz: ah, great idea! Not sure what the limit is then but I know its a lot! lol
[07:35] <llutz> ade: limit is 15 logical drives with libata irrc
[07:36] <llutz> err 12, 3primary+12 logical, something like that. should be enough though
[07:37] <ade> llutz: Sure I read somewhere recently that with logical partitions is was possible (at least in theory) to hold something like 162 partitions!? Don;t think I will quite need that many but I like options lol
[07:38] <llutz> ade: it has been maximum of 63 "partitions" with IDE but theres a lower limit with SCSI(libata) which is used since a while
[07:40] <linocisco> hi all
[07:41] <ade> llutz: That will be where I conjured that figure from then :o) Thanks's for the great advice
[07:41] <linocisco> I am sure everybody is aware of attack on Godaddy's website . Ubuntu site is backed by Godaddy. I am wondering how much it affected on ubuntu site.
[07:41] <Kartagis> how can I make simplescan scan my photos/documents brighter?
[07:41] <llutz> !ot | linocisco
[07:45] <xiukun> #ubuntu-cn
[07:45] <linocisco> xiukun, cn = china?
[07:46] <vlt> Hello. I switched from KDE to Ubuntu and Gnome recently. Where can I find the clibboard history now?
[07:46] <xiukun> Yes
[07:46] <xiukun> 中国懂不
[07:46] <xiukun> 你大爷的
[07:47] <fragmachine> Hello, I'm trying to write a program in C that can pull text from the clipboard. I found a little bit of information on the net about it, but I was wondering where I would find documentation on clipboards and selections etc?
[07:48] <Kartagis> fragmachine: #c
[07:48] <fragmachine> ok
[07:48] <Kartagis> !cn | xiukun
[07:49] <xiukun> ubottu:恩.我是大陆的
[07:50] <xXDjGXx> sup guys
[07:51] <Kartagis> how can I make simplescan scan my photos/documents brighter?
[07:56] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  use any image editor to that end
[07:57] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust: no other way?
[07:57] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  what other way did you have in mind?
[07:58] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  there's also xsane, it's more advanced, more editable
[07:58] <llutz> Kartagis: as the name says, its "simple". if you need more options to scan, use xsane
[07:58] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust: set a preference or play with some configuration option to scan them brighter?
[07:59] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  in xsane, yes
[07:59] <p`p> .msg nickserv register
[08:01] <ActionParsnip>  p`p: may want a pass change :)
[08:04] <Chrys0pras3> Hi
[08:05] <Chrys0pras3> I tried to install ubuntu to an external hdd, but now each time I boot, it complains about "unknow filesystem"
[08:06] <Chrys0pras3> The first partition is nfts for data, the next has ubuntu installed, and the last is swap
[08:07] <Chrys0pras3> So now each time I boot, I have to go through set prefix, set root, insmod, etc
[08:07] <gordonjcp> Chrys0pras3: can you post the error verbatim, please?
[08:07] <Chrys0pras3> I'd have to reboot
[08:08] <Chrys0pras3> I decided to reinstall ubuntu, so how can I prevent this from happenning?
[08:09] <Chrys0pras3> 1. where do I install the boot loader, in the disk or in the partition?
[08:10] <Chrys0pras3> 2. do I need a separate partition to mount /boot?
[08:10] <Kartagis> Chrys0pras3: 1. disk, 2. no
[08:10] <BebopSteve> Is anyone familiar with docky configuration files? http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky
[08:10] <SkyKnight>  /msg nickserv identify alagunambi
[08:11] <BebopSteve> poor skyknight
[08:11] <fragmachine> haha
[08:11] <somsip> Chrys0pras3: you don't need one, though sometimes it's recommended
[08:11] <Chrys0pras3> 3. Do I need to change the name of sdb where I'll mount the boot loader so it'll work in any machine?
[08:12] <Chrys0pras3> http://superuser.com/questions/381651/install-a-bootloader-to-boot-another-partition
[08:13] <Chrys0pras3> Here it says to edit /etc/fstabby changing all sdb's to sda's but I did't understant
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Chrys0pras3: its usual to use the UUID of the block device
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Chrys0pras3: its more reliable than the whole sda sdb thing
[08:14] <olga__> доброго времени суток
[08:15] <fidel> !ru | olga__
[08:15] <fidel> man why does everyone think his native language is the 'bomb' for everyone ;)
[08:16] <Ben64> i want to run a command when a certain pid is done, how can i do so? I was trying something like this... if [ kill -0 $pid ]; then echo "foobar"; fi
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: so when the PID dies, you want to run a command?
[08:17] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: correct
[08:17] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: not sure how to get the kill -0 thing to work with if or while
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: you could use:  top -n 1    then grep / awk to the PID colomn to then grep for your PID value
[08:18] <WACOMalt> how do I change the group of a folder via terminal?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: chgrp
[08:18] <llutz> WACOMalt: chgrp group directory
[08:18] <wdp> WACOMalt, chown user:group folder
[08:18] <WACOMalt> ok thank you :)
[08:19] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: then how does it go to a script?
[08:19] <WACOMalt> also how to add a user to a group?
[08:19] <llutz> WACOMalt: man adduser (adduser user group)
[08:19] <Ben64> WACOMalt: usermod
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: let me play
[08:20] <Ben64> WACOMalt: usermod -a -G <group> <user to add to said group>
[08:21] <llutz> and don't miss the -a ....
[08:21] <WACOMalt> I got it, thank you guys
[08:21] <chuck> Could someone please tell me which root command lists all users?
[08:21] <WACOMalt> was making a minecraft group for my server, and having it control a folder
[08:21] <llutz> chuck: getent passwd
[08:22] <chuck> llutz thank you
[08:22] <jalexandru> hi, anybody can recommend a cd clone software for ubuntu 12.04?
[08:22] <Ben64> jalexandru: what do you mean exactly
[08:22] <MonkeyDust> chuck  simply type 'w' in a terminal
[08:22] <fidel> jalexandru: asking for a burn app?
[08:22] <jalexandru> I have a cd and I want to copy it exaclty how it is
[08:22] <Ben64> jalexandru: dd
[08:23] <jalexandru> Thanks ben64 and fidel
[08:23] <chuck> MonkeyDust" That seems to only list the one active User
[08:24] <leblebi> hello! :)
[08:25] <Guest70980> can anyone please help me      i am getting error on apt-get update  W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D8AD4DE78EEBB0CA
[08:25] <Guest70980> can anyone please help me      i am getting error on apt-get update  W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D8AD4DE78EEBB0CA
[08:25] <fidel> !repeat > Guest70980
[08:26] <fidel> Guest70980: ppa's are usualy not supported inhere. in general do you understand the error-message?
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224074/
[08:26] <MonkeyDust> !ppa > Guest70980
[08:27] <llutz> ActionParsnip: ps --no-headers -p <PID>|| echo not running
[08:27] <leblebi> Where is the default directory which is copying on the Home folder of new created user? I mean where is the default home folder? I want to change it. So every each new user will have these settings (home folder) as default. Thank you!
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> llutz: nice, my bashfu is only yellow belt
[08:28] <tsimpson> leblebi: /etc/skel
[08:28] <fidel> leblebi: i assue it is /etc/skel
[08:29] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: wow thanks, that works great
[08:30] <chuck> When I root command: <getent passwd> I sifted through and found this: Could nobody:65534:65534:nobody: nonexistent: /bin/sh be a hacker
[08:30] <llutz> chuck: no it is a normal account for special purposes
[08:31] <WACOMalt> ok, this is probably a bit out of ubuntu chat scope, but its late :P I have an ftp server running, but my main user cannot get full directory access. it is limited to it's domain.
[08:31] <WACOMalt> how can I change it's root folder and permissions?
[08:31] <leblebi> tsimpson and fidel : first thank you! but there is just 3 folder inside /etc/skel . ?! Where are the others? If I copy here a new folder, It will created on the Home folder of new user?
[08:32] <chuck> I have an account on the "Log In" page which says "Other" but the root commands show no such user. Meanwhile it's password protected.
[08:32] <tsimpson> leblebi: the others are created by the applications when they need to create them, but that directory is copied for each new (non-system) users home
[08:33] <llutz> chuck: a guest-account? you should disable that in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf  "allow-guest=false"
[08:33] <leblebi> tsimpson Ok. Thank you! :)
[08:33] <chuck> thanks llutz
[08:35] <kifeey> hi
[08:35] <kifeey> need help pleaseeeeeee
[08:35] <LadyOna> Hello
[08:36] <LadyOna> is it possible to recover encrypted rar files? I cant remeber the password
[08:36] <kifeey> any developer in the house?
[08:37] <kifeey> can someone assist me with a usecase diagram?
[08:37] <haraldneukoeln> which files in etc should I exclude when cloning a system to a different pc? fstab, X11?
[08:37] <bazhang> LadyOna, not possible
[08:38] <bazhang> kifeey, give us way more details
[08:38] <fidel> kifeey: i doubt that question is channel-related ;)
[08:38] <kifeey> kk
[08:38] <Guest70980> where do i found this !ppa
[08:38] <Jordan_U> LadyOna: Did you set the password yourself?
[08:38] <kifeey> am working on a software for asset monitoring and tracking
[08:39] <fidel> Guest70980: you added it - and it should be found in /etc/apt/
[08:39] <ElixirVitae> Hi~
[08:39] <ElixirVitae> I am having trouble mounting a drive
[08:39] <bazhang> kifeey, and asset means what? please be VERY clear
[08:39] <ElixirVitae> I am using pysdm
[08:39] <fidel> !enter > ElixirVitae
[08:39] <kifeey> asset means like equipment
[08:40] <ElixirVitae> oh-kay
[08:40] <bazhang> kifeey, could you please ask your full question, all on one line
[08:41] <kifeey> bazhang, i want to develop a use case for asset management and tracking system
[08:41] <bazhang> ElixirVitae, thats the gui to help with fstab?
[08:41] <bazhang> kifeey, sorry no idea what that means without more details
[08:42] <ElixirVitae> I allocated previously unallocated part of my current internal HDD, and make two primary partitions, one ext4 other ntfs. The problem is, while ntfs is mounted at boot time for all users, ext4 is root only. I want to make it available for read/write and tried Storage Device Manager, no dice
[08:42] <Guest70980> fidel sir, please pardon my ignorance i am new to linux and ubuntu where can i find the ppa that i need to delete
[08:42] <kifeey> bazhang, are u a programmer?
[08:42] <ElixirVitae> yes, it is, bazhang
[08:42] <twitchie> Guest70980, ppa's should be removed from software-center .. edit->software sources-> other software tab
[08:42] <bazhang> kifeey, how does this relate to ubuntu
[08:43] <fidel> Guest70980: well somehow you where able to add a ppa in the first place - the bot told you already what a ppa is - and i answered where it it - so what in detail is unclear now?
[08:43] <kifeey> just looking for a channel that can address that
[08:43] <gordonjcp> kifeey: why reinvent the wheel?
[08:43] <gordonjcp> kifeey: contribute to an existing project
[08:43] <bazhang> ElixirVitae, so whats the issue? you could also just use an editor to add to fstab
[08:43] <kifeey> bazhang, can you link me to any channel that can assist me?
[08:44] <bazhang> !alis | kifeey here have a search
[08:44] <ElixirVitae> my fstab line for ext4 is: /dev/sda3 /media/Storage  ext4  group=elixirvitae,users,user,owner  0  0
[08:44] <pranavk> I want to see the size of all the folders that are present in my home directory. Unfortunately 'ls -l' only lists correct size for files not folders. How to computer the size of folders recursively
[08:44] <ElixirVitae> but it does not mount and is still only root access
[08:44] <Ben64> pranavk: du -h
[08:45] <llutz> ElixirVitae:you use chown/chmod to adjust permissions on ext4, not boot.options in fstab
[08:45] <fidel> Guest70980: there are several ways to handle that - either use the software-center as mentioned above - or via cli if you prefer commandline
[08:45] <MonkeyDust> ElixirVitae  add 'defaults' between  ext4 and group
[08:45] <ElixirVitae> I tried that as well, llutz
[08:45] <Guest70980> twitchie's response  is what i think i should try
[08:46] <fidel> Guest70980: yep. if you solved that - ask yourself how you were able to add a ppa without knowing you did so - as it somehow looks like you just entered commands you dont know/understand ...which you never should do ;)
[08:46] <Guest70980> fidel sir, i just copied and pasted what ever sites tell me to do..
[08:46] <pranavk> Ben64: it is giving size of each of the file recursively, I want only collective size of each folder on my home folder. I don't care about the sizes of files/folders inside the home folders.
[08:47] <LadyOna> Jordan_U:  Yes, I set the password my self!
[08:47] <Guest70980> now how can i remove.. i dont see an option in softwarecentre to edit
[08:47] <Jordan_U>  /away
[08:47] <ElixirVitae> like this, MonkeyDust: http://imgur.com/ymcTH
[08:47] <Guest70980> i am talking of ubuntu 12.04
[08:47] <Ben64> pranavk: check out the man page for du, it has an option for depth
[08:47] <fidel> Guest70980: yep - and that is a thing you NEVER should do in the first place
[08:47] <ElixirVitae> also, what does it do, defaults line, I mean
[08:47] <ptman> hi! where would i get netboot installer images that install lucid but with a newer kernel?
[08:47] <Jordan_U> LadyOna: Knowing some information about the password can help make recovery possible, but it will only be possible if you chose a particularly weak password also.
[08:47] <bazhang> ptman, there are none
[08:47] <fidel> Guest70980: if someone tells you to take a gun and shoot yourself in the head you dont do it either without thinking about it. no offense - just trying to point out some dangers ;)
[08:48] <pranavk> ok
[08:48] <kifeey> thanks guys
[08:48] <MonkeyDust> ElixirVitae  no, without the comma after defaults -- so: ext4    defaults    group...
[08:48] <ptman> bazhang, well crap
[08:48] <llutz> MonkeyDust: wrong, options don't have to contain spaces
[08:48] <LadyOna> Jordan_U:  I tried all possible passwords ...
[08:48] <ptman> bazhang, any pointers to how I would make some?
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> llutz  but it makes it more readable
[08:49] <llutz> MonkeyDust: it makes fstab corrupt
[08:49] <Guest70980> fidel u are right.. please help , i need to know the entire process and control flow as to how linux / ubuntu works..  like this GPG error i couldnt get to know how to handle until u people have told me..
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> llutz  please, don't confuse people
[08:49] <Ben64> LadyOna: there are rar password crackers, but unless its a very short password, it'd probably take too long
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> llutz  they are tabs, not spaces
[08:50] <Guest70980> i dont know what command to use simply to unstall an applicaiton that i installed either thru software centre synaptics or cli
[08:50] <Guest70980> i'll request yo to be a lil patient and  understand
[08:50] <llutz> MonkeyDust: it makes fstab corrupt, options have to be separated by comma
[08:50] <Ben64> Guest70980: usually "apt-get remove <name>"
[08:50] <LadyOna> Ben64: I always use unsense words and digits too
[08:51] <ElixirVitae> does that not make <option> = defaults and  <dump> = group... MonkeyDust?
[08:51] <Kvaks> What's the best way to securely delete (unrecoverable) a file on an SSD with ext4?
[08:51] <llutz> ElixirVitae: thats it and its wrong
[08:51] <Guest70980> fidel : why do GPG errors occur in the first place
[08:51] <Ben64> Kvaks: check out "shred"
[08:52] <Guest70980> what would this mean NO_PUBKEY D8AD4DE78EEBB0CA
[08:52] <Guest70980> fidel
[08:52] <ElixirVitae> What puzzles me why ntfs is read/write for all users whereas ext4 is only root
[08:52] <ElixirVitae> Does it have to do with Linux filesystem permissions?
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> llutz  falser, no commas in my fstab
[08:52] <llutz> MonkeyDust: you separate fields in fstab by whitespace/tab but not the contents of the fields. options (field 4) must not contain any space
[08:52] <Ben64> ElixirVitae: permissions, you have to create a folder they own or change permissions on the root directory
[08:52] <Kvaks> Ben64: Thanks.
[08:53] <llutz> MonkeyDust: read "man fstab"
[08:54] <ElixirVitae> Well, pysdm does what I do with nano through terminal, and when I say turn back to defaults, it makes <option> line defaults
[08:54] <MonkeyDust> please llutz , do you see a comma here    UUID=76ca71ff-4090-43b3-9a8a-3af687216d4c /home           ext4    defaults        0       2
[08:54] <llutz> MonkeyDust: no why should i? you only have 1 OPTION so theres nothing to separate
[08:55] <llutz> MonkeyDust: UUID=e44d2084-a47c-4175-bb78-baa0e41514c0       /               ext4            defaults,discard,noatime,errors=remount-ro,barrier=1 0 1
[08:55] <MonkeyDust> llutz  the guy only needed defaults, please don't try to discuss
[08:55] <Acid190> anyone available for a cloak?
[08:56] <llutz> Acid190: ask in #freenode
[08:56] <Acid190> thanks
[08:56] <Guest70980> fidel ??
[08:56] <llutz> MonkeyDust: true but why did you tell him then to insert "defaults" before "group...."?
[08:56] <ElixirVitae> MonkeyDust, llutz here= http://i.imgur.com/EYPgM.png
[08:56] <ElixirVitae> Defaults option makes it root only, MonkeyDust
[08:57] <ElixirVitae> which was how it was in the first place
[08:57] <llutz> ElixirVitae: you change the permissions with chown/chmod
[08:57] <ElixirVitae> I don't want to change it for this boot, llutz, I want it to be persistent
[08:57] <llutz> ElixirVitae: it will be persistent
[08:57] <llutz> ElixirVitae: thats how unix-fs work
[08:58]  * ElixirVitae goes to investigate man chown.
[08:58] <llutz> ElixirVitae: mount the filesystem, then "sudo chown user:group /mountpoint" to your needs
[08:58] <fidel> Guest70980: sorry - i have to work myself right now. try to ask your general questions directly to the channel/all ppl
[08:59] <ElixirVitae> in my case it is elixirvitae:group, no?
[09:00] <blackshirt> what the problems?
[09:00] <llutz> ElixirVitae: if you are the only to access, set it to elixirvitae:elixirvitae
[09:00] <ElixirVitae> okay, one other thing, where can I learn more about user groups and having multiple users with different level of access, is there a man page or tutorial?
[09:01] <llutz> !permissions | ElixirVitae maybe here
[09:01] <blackshirt> elixirvitae, learn some ACL on detail
[09:02] <jerry_l1> what are some real good micro server machines? ones that cost less that $50?
[09:02] <gordonjcp> jerry_l1: none, really
[09:02] <gordonjcp> jerry_l1: you want an HP Microserver
[09:02] <ElixirVitae> I need to reboot for changes to be active, I presume
[09:02] <jerry_l1> sorry/ meant web page server
[09:03] <ElixirVitae> blackshirt, ACL being acronym for ...
[09:03] <llutz> ElixirVitae: and btw, you better use UUID (from sudo blkid) in your fstab, not device names which could change
[09:03] <jerry_l1> i have seen some things like adrno machines but they end up pricing over 100.00 for 5watt web page servers.
[09:03] <ElixirVitae> Yeah, I plan to do so for externals, so many things to learn, I sometimes get frustrated
[09:04] <blackshirt> elixirvitae, that was for access control list
[09:04] <ElixirVitae> I feel like I crippled my reach after migrating to ubuntu from windows, I will emerge victorious through sheer stubbornness, I guess~
[09:05] <Guest70307> i have problem with ssh command
[09:05] <Guest70307> who can help me
[09:05] <Guest70307> ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f "
[09:05] <ElixirVitae> Thanks for the help, MonkeyDust, llutz, blackshirt!!!
[09:05] <blackshirt> elixirvitae, not trully right... If you have learn some basic, you should get improvemebt :d
[09:06] <Guest70307> ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f " who can help?
[09:06] <Guest70307> torokhoda
[09:06] <Guest70307> ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f " who can help?
[09:06] <Guest70307> ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f " who can help?
[09:06] <Guest70307> ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f " who can help?
[09:06] <Guest70307> ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f " who can help?
[09:06] <FloodBot1> Guest70307: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:06] <overbythere> ...
[09:06] <overbythere> dude calm down, if no one knows at the moment, try later
[09:07] <Guest70307> ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f " who can help?
[09:07] <Ben64> Guest70307: stop spamming
[09:07] <Guest70307> i am not spam
[09:07] <overbythere> Guest70307: typing it multiple times will make people not talk to you, even if they know the answer, wait.
[09:07] <Guest70307> i am human with trouble problem
[09:07] <Guest70307> im so sorry
[09:07] <Ben64> !patience | Guest70307
[09:07] <Guest70307> :(
[09:08] <Guest70307> im so sorry ..... please some body answer me ...
[09:08] <Guest70307> :(
[09:09] <think> aa
[09:10] <Promille> #ubuntu-no
[09:11] <Promille> sorry, miss-typed
[09:12] <resting> why does it say The program 'pcretest' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[09:12] <resting> apt-get install libpcre3
[09:12] <jdo_dk> How do i create a secure fileshare between to ubuntu servers ?
[09:12] <resting> and when i type apt-get install libpcre3, it says its already the newest version
[09:12] <resting> i need to run pcretest
[09:13] <hatori> jdo_dk: using some type of server ? samba ? nfs ?
[09:13] <Promille> jdo_dk: you can set up an ssh-server?
[09:14] <llutz> !find pcretest
[09:14] <jdo_dk> hatori and promille: What is the best?
[09:14] <llutz> resting: ^^
[09:14] <jdo_dk> Both servers is already running ssh
[09:14] <hatori> jdo_dk: i don't know what you need exactly
[09:15] <Promille> jdo_dk: then do sudo aÃpt-get install filezilla, and connect through that. remember to choose the right potocol
[09:15] <jdo_dk> server1 should push files to server2. server2 is public and server1 is "internal"
[09:16] <Ben64> jdo_dk: you could use rsync
[09:16] <resting> llutz: so no way i can run pcretest?
[09:17] <llutz> resting: idk what that is, but its not contained in any package
[09:17] <Promille> jdo_dk: install filezilla on server2 and download files from server1 with filezilla(through the SFTP protocol). or do it reverse and "push" files over
[09:17] <llutz> resting: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52161/pcretest-seems-to-be-gone-from-libpcre3-package
[09:18] <BebopSteve> Sorry to repeat from about 90 minutes ago, is anyone familiar with docky configuration files? http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky
[09:18] <resting> llutz: ah..ok...
[09:18] <Promille> jdo_dk: reverse meaning installing filezilla on server 1 and transfering them over to server 2(since both have ssh installed).
[09:19] <llutz> resting: get the maverick packages, extract the pcretest and put it into ~/bin (just my idea)
[09:20] <jilt007> !irssi
[09:22] <jdo_dk> Promille: Thanks
[09:23] <varun> how do i append a file? it says bash: : Permission denied
[09:24] <llutz> varun: which command?
[09:24] <Promille> varun: you're using sudo?
[09:25] <varun> i was trying with echo
[09:25] <varun> no sudo didnt help
[09:25] <varun> llutz: i was trying with echo
[09:26] <llutz> !details | varun
[09:26] <gordonjcp> varun: something like "sudo echo "this thing" > that_file" won't work
[09:27] <Guest87634> hi
[09:27] <somsip> varun: you need you use tee - http://superuser.com/questions/136646/how-to-append-to-a-file-as-sudo
[09:28] <varun> gordonjcp: sudo echo "(xend-http-server yes)">>/etc/xen/xend-config.sxp
[09:28] <varun> bash: /etc/xen/xend-config.sxp: Permission denied
[09:28] <Guest87634> ubuntu vs mint
[09:29] <varun> llutz: sudo echo "(xend-http-server yes)">>/etc/xen/xend-config.sxp
[09:29] <Troy^> Guest87634: simply a matter of preference and for you, yourself to find out.
[09:29] <IdleOne> !poll | Guest87634
[09:29] <somsip> varun: just read the link I gave you
[09:29] <llutz> varun: echo "(xend-http-server yes)" | sudo tee -a /etc/xen/xend-config.sxp
[09:29] <madjoe> Guest87634: Ubuntu
[09:30] <Guest87634> mm
[09:30] <llutz> varun: or sudo sh -c "echo redirection > goes here"
[09:30] <Guest87634> more ppl say contrary..
[09:31] <madjoe> Guest87634: listen, you need to try all options to suite yourself and find ur own pros and cons
[09:31] <varun> thanks
[09:31] <andornaut> Pidgin is stuck at "Waiting for a connection". It works if I enable networking via networkmanager, but I've disabled netman and have setup a static config in /etc/network/interfaces (this is so that it comes up prior to login - if there's a better way to do this, let me know). Pidgin works if I connect using netman, though. Any ideas?
[09:32] <andornaut> With pidgin -d (debug) everything looks okay... it gets its NAT'd addr, etc
[09:32] <madjoe> Guset87634: I tried them both, don't like Unity that much, but I got back to Ubuntu after trying Mint for a month
[09:33] <Guest87634> only because u are her :)
[09:33] <madjoe> what??
[09:33] <Guest87634> here
[09:33] <Guest87634> ah ah
[09:33] <madjoe> i don't get it.
[09:33] <Guest87634> im kiddin
[09:34] <madjoe> no, I don't have to suck up to the community, I'm sharing my thoughts with you, bro.
[09:34] <BebopSteve> there is something about mint I don't like that I cannot put my finger on
[09:35] <madjoe> BebopSteve: exactly
[09:39] <souravaj> hello
[09:43] <Guest70307> how can i register here?
[09:43] <DJones> !register | Guest70307
[09:44] <MikeH> How can I change a disk from GPT to MBR?
[09:45] <ubuntu_> im kiddin
[09:48] <marvin__> hi, anyone know which version of blueGriffon should I download for 10.04 lts???
[09:50] <C-S-B> When will the PPA for  1.11 beta start to inclde 12.10 packages?
[09:50] <cfhowlett> marvin__: the current version on the BlueGriffon download page will likely work for 10.04
[09:51] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|C-S-B:
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[09:51] <C-S-B> woops, wrong channel. :/
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: 1.11 beta of what?
[09:51] <C-S-B> ifnore ActionParsnip It's too early. :P
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> 11am...not massively early :)
[09:52] <C-S-B> I make it 10:50 :P
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: close enough :PP
[09:54] <erkan^> !thunar
[09:55] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: <=1300 == too early.
[09:56] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: Do you know of any issue with reboots just not happening? I dont have my laptop with me currently, but every reboot is failing.
[09:57] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: Actually, this better go in ubuntu+1
sorry, but the current version of b.Griffon(1.5.2) in d. page is for 11.10, I don't know if I can use it for 10.04???
[09:59] <MikeH> is there a quick format option for creating an ext3 volume?
[09:59] <cfhowlett> marvin__: I suspect you can.  If it doesn't fly, try one of the earlier versions.
[10:00] <tinalon> b.Griffon(1.1.1)
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[10:00] <hroi> hi
[10:00] <hroi> anyone familiar with xfs here?
[10:00] <hroi> how to configure the su/sw parameters?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> MikeH: not that I can see in the man page for mkfs.ext3
[10:07] <mach-bar> hi@all
[10:08] <cfhowlett> mach-bar: greetings
[10:08] <mach-bar> i think I found a major bug related to ipv6 in ubuntu precise pangolin, but I'm not 100% sure
[10:08] <cfhowlett> !bug|mach-bar
[10:09] <mach-bar> yes ubottu, but I wanted to check with you guys first...
[10:10] <mach-bar> the thing is: kvm host cannot ping6 virtual guest connected via bridge. It says: "ping: sendmsg: Network is down"
[10:10] <mach-bar> but the network interfaces are actually connected right when I check with brctl show and the routing information is also correct
[10:11] <mach-bar> but what I'm not sure with if it's because I'm using a prefix length of 80 for my net.
[10:11] <mach-bar> Is that allowed?
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> mach-bar  try #networking
[10:13] <mach-bar> ok MonkeyDust will do
[10:18] <ahhughes_> apt is trying its best to annoy me, I get 'E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'  and I'm too inexperienced to know what the fix is :'(
[10:18] <josephAG> I guys
[10:19] <blazemore> ahhughes_: Try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[10:21] <josephAG> need informations on howto configure a bizhub c360 under ubuntu 10.04
[10:22]  * dr_willis wonders what a bizhub c360 is..
[10:24] <ahhughes_> argh... sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get install ia32-libs         == E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.    still :(
[10:24] <dr_willis> what packages does it say are broken?
[10:26] <ahhughes_> oh this looks bad, Im not trying to install adobe reader but the underlying package  ia32-libs is the same    http://askubuntu.com/questions/166566/cannot-install-adobe-reader
[10:26] <josephAG> anyone ever install a konica bizhub C360?
[10:27] <swann> #direcftb
[10:32] <dr_willis> josephAG:  what is a bizhub c360.
[10:32] <josephAG> a bizhub C360 is multifunctional printer sorry
[10:32] <dr_willis> and what part of it is and is not working?
[10:33] <josephAG> I succeded in installing the driver, but got issues with slow printing
[10:34] <josephAG> every time I try to print, he just pulled the state of the printer which take ages
[10:35] <dr_willis> printing is handled by cupos, so have you checked the cups logs for any information/errors? whats slow about the printing. 'pulled the state' means?
[10:36] <josephAG> it check the printer every times to see it current state, I'd like to get rid of this.
[10:37] <dr_willis> bbl - got  some work to do.
[10:38] <ahhughes_> so dr_willis if I try install, ia32-libs --depends-> ia32-libs-multiarch -depends-> libcurl3:i386 but it is not going to be installed. How/Why would that dependency not install?
[10:38] <josephAG> oki thanks Anyway, I try cups log to see if there is any clues in it
[10:38] <etz> Hello all
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> josephAG  it syas here, bizhub 360 is a copier, not a printer
[10:39] <etz> When the new release will come out?
[10:39] <hcecilia> Hello  all
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> ok, multifunction, I misread
[10:40] <geirha> ahhughes_: run apt-cache policy on the packages it mentions.  apt-cache policy ia32-libs ia32-libs-multiarch libcurl3:i386
[10:40] <ahhughes_> geirha, ran.. not sure what Im looking for here.
[10:41] <etz> can anyone please tell me when the new version will release to public?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> etz: October 2012
[10:41] <Guest26245> hi
[10:41] <Guest26245> i've problem with mu su account's password
[10:41] <etz> Thanks cfhowlett
[10:41] <geirha> ahhughes_: Where each package comes from mainly. Pastebin it
[10:41] <Guest26245> i ve forgotten what was it
[10:43] <ahhughes_> geirha, thanks heaps... http://pastebin.com/X73Mf1ny
[10:43] <mokhles> is there any one could help me fined a way of my TV card in?
[10:43] <Lantizia> You know debootstrap? how does it know which packages to download from a repository?! is there some kind of metapackage it looks for?
[10:44] <Eagleman> ello when i reach my share trough using an ip address i can reach it, if i want to reach it using a name it will not connect, when i do nslookup on that name, it will show me the same ip address as going to the share trough an ip address, Why is it not working?
[10:45] <geirha> ahhughes_: More or less same as I get here
[10:46] <geirha> ahhughes_: I've heard apt's multiarch thingy can break under certain circumstances. Possibly that has happened
[10:48] <freddo> hi, is there a boot param to do a text only install? plz
[10:48] <OpenIndianaVbox> !text | freddo
[10:48] <OpenIndianaVbox> freddo: ah, install, sorry
[10:49] <OpenIndianaVbox> freddo: you can use the alternative or mini iso
[10:49] <Orfoz> ihi
[10:49] <Orfoz> hi
[10:49] <AdvoWork> whats the best way to disable a user in ubuntu?
[10:49] <Orfoz> need help
[10:50] <gordonjcp> AdvoWork: change their password
[10:50] <gordonjcp> !help | Orfoz
[10:50] <Walker> raga per ircwar dove si va?
[10:50] <Orfoz> i ve forgotten my root password how can i change it again?
[10:50] <gordonjcp> !it | Walker
[10:50] <freddo> thanks folks! :)
[10:50] <gordonjcp> Orfoz: you shouldn't have a root password at all
[10:51] <gordonjcp> Orfoz: you use sudo with your "normal user" password
[10:51] <gordonjcp> !root | Orfoz
[10:51] <BebopSteve> Is anyone familiar with docky configuration files?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky
[10:53] <Orfoz> gordonjcp , ubottu  i did correct. thanx for help
[10:59] <jobbe> hi
[11:00] <jobbe> i got a small problem, after updating the kernel, then i cannot run a certain program (netbeans)
[11:00] <jobbe> any idea why?
[11:01] <Promille> jobbe: any error messages?
[11:02] <jobbe> Promille: nothing, it shows the "load" screen and when it disappears nothing happens
[11:02] <jobbe> i tried running it from terminal, and no output
[11:03] <ahhughes_> geirha, yeah.. I got no idea what I am doing and why this is breaking :'(
[11:03] <SilfenX> if I remove the default route on the nic and then add a static route to the outside of router (IP of vpn service providr vpn gateway), how am I supposed to get the OpenVPN client to be able to connect to vpn service provider if it cant resolve the vpn server domain names used in the connection script?
[11:03] <Promille> jobbe: hm. strange. have you tried to reinstall it(i.e. with Synaptic)?
[11:03] <Far092> !list
[11:04] <jobbe> i downloaded it from their site, using the PHP IDE - couldnt get the PHP part working with apt
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> SilfenX: could add the name in /etc/hosts
[11:04] <foo357_> Hello. I have a important process running in terminal. The process is inactive, it might be that it has hanged up or that I have accidentally "paused" it with a keyboard shortcut somehow. How would I wake up the process if I did acidentally sleep it=
[11:05] <Promille> jobbe: I see. Unfortunately, I'm not that familiar with netbeans(been using Eclipse most) so I'm afraid I cant help you then.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> foo357_: press CTRL+Z then run: bg     an d you will get the terminal back and you can see what is happening
[11:05] <jobbe> damn
[11:05] <Promille> jobbe: Try #netbeans, it may be a known bug
[11:06] <jobbe> thanks Promille  :)
[11:06] <Promille> np
[11:06] <rabbi1> got installed 12.04, now trying to connect my old datacard (Reliance Netconnect, ZTE -AC2736 device) is detected but network is not activated. any suggestions ?
[11:06] <rabbi1> Also the 'options' button is disabled under network settings of the card .....
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: can you give a pastebin of the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsusb
[11:06] <foo357_> ActionParsnip: The process would eat up almost 100% cpu usage if it was active, but it seems to be inactive. What could I do to check what has happened to the process?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> foo357_: there maybe something in:  dmesg
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> foo357_: or if there is a logfile, read that
[11:14] <sunson> I'm looking for a video editor to annotate my screen capture sessions with footnotes, lines, boxes, etc.,. What video editor would you recommend to do this?
[11:14]  * smartboyhw will recommend Ubuntu Studio for this..
[11:14] <SilfenX> woudl it work to replace the domain names in my openvpn connection script with the resolved IP s to avoid having the OpenVPN GUI to dns resolve them if the default gateway is removed from the physical nic? http://pastebin.com/Vx6d5AwC?
[11:14] <cfhowlett> sunson: exactly = #ubuntustudio
[11:15] <OpenIndianaVbox> sunson: not sure about screen annotations but i like openshot as a video editor
[11:15] <sunson> cfhowlett: smartboyhw: ubuntu studio is just a collection of packages. what specific package?
[11:15] <Alex_____> Hi, with mount we can precise with offset where the part start but is it possible to set the end of the partition?
[11:15] <smartboyhw> sunson: Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu
[11:15] <elky> smartboyhw, people tend to not want to completely reinstall, or install a heap of extra packages for one application
[11:16] <cfhowlett> sunson: openshot video editor, subtitle editor for sure
[11:16] <sunson> elky: ditto that
[11:16] <sunson> cfhowlett: thanks. will look at openshot!
[11:16] <smartboyhw> Er OpenShot Video Editor for that:)
[11:16] <smartboyhw> it is included in the studio packages
[11:16] <AdvoWork> where does ubuntu keep its audit logs? i can't find audit.log
[11:16] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: brb
[11:17] <sunson> smartboyhw: I run edubuntu and I'm a teacher... that said, I teach music (and have jackd installed) :)
[11:17] <smartboyhw> AdvoWork, audit? You mean the accounting logs?
[11:17] <smartboyhw> sunson: Oh:)
[11:17] <cfhowlett> sunson: TRYING to use edubuntu to teach ESL :)
[11:17] <sunson> cfhowlett: ESL?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> sunson: English as a Second Language
[11:18]  * smartboyhw finds out there IS a way to install Unity 2D on quantal...
[11:20] <sunson> cfhowlett: ltsp-server works out of the box on edubuntu (along with a fully working basic /opt/ltsp/xxx pre-built)
[11:21] <sunson> given I'm on a flaky internet connection, the ltsp-build-client scripts are very fragile - they fail and ask us to try for every small error.
[11:21] <josephAG> bye guys
[11:21] <sunson> s/try/try again/
[11:21] <Alan_> HI!
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> smartboyhw  just entered... you read this? http://www.muktware.com/4161/unity-2d-removed-quantal
[11:22] <smartboyhw> MonkeyDust, I did it yesterday LOL
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> smartboyhw: its no longer an option, you will use CPU + GPU if your GPU isn't up to the job. I can recommend you switch from Gnome to another DE, XFCE is very similar to the Gnome2 stylee desktop
[11:24] <xyxxy>  hi. how to read continuously the current dynamic volume of the played music? i do not refer to volume level.
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> smartboyhw: this channel is also only for stable releases only, quantal is supported in #ubuntu+1 until release day
[11:27] <marun> one of the partition /dev/sda2 is missing in my server.. what might be the reason
[11:27] <AdvoWork> i've heard its not great having ssh open on a server that is accessible from the outside world. Currently we have lots of domain names(email) that point to the external ip of our router. SSH is setup on that router, port forwarding > an internal server. Any suggestions of how to improve this?
[11:27] <blackshirt> marun, not showed with fdisk -l
[11:28] <blackshirt> ?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: its fine to access SSH over the web, you can bolster security by using key files.
[11:28] <shomon> how do I add someone to sudoers? just add them to the admin group in /etc/group?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> shomon: sudo usermod -a -G sudo username
[11:29] <ow> AdvoWork: So wait, as in someone can SSH into your router? Or your router just forwards SSH requests to an internal server?
[11:29] <shomon> ooh never seen sudo for more than "gimme" :)
[11:29] <AdvoWork> ActionParsnip, but if someone does a scan on one of our domains, they can find sssh open right?
[11:29] <shomon> thanks
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> shomon: next time the user will log in they will be able to use sudo
[11:29] <AdvoWork> ow, sorry, i meant port forwarding setup to ssh to a machine on the network
[11:30] <shomon> hmm I just ran that command but it just said "bla is not in the sudoers file..."
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: yes they will see the service listening for connections
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> shomon: you need to run it as someone who can ALREADY use sudo
[11:31] <crizis> shomon, alternatively, you can add users to /etc/sudoers
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> crizis: not necessary, plus the user will need access to sudo to edit the file so is counter intuitive
[11:31] <sunson> cfhowlett: openshot does exactly what I want. Its _amazing_ :)
[11:32] <crizis> duh, you can't add people to groups without sude either
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> shomon: if you wish, you can boot to root recovery console and run the command there :)
[11:32] <AdvoWork> ActionParsnip, so is that not unsafe?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> crizis: you can if they know the pasword on the group :)
[11:32] <coolman> hello guys
[11:32] <ow> AdvoWork: If you're worried about security, 1) consider running on a different port; 2) in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, set "PasswordAuthentication no"
[11:32] <cfhowlett> sunson: openshot is a great tool and developed at an amazing pace.  Please share your success with the developers.
[11:32] <coolman> i need add time on grub
[11:32] <marun> balckshirt: no. fdisk -l doesn't show the partition at all
[11:32] <ow> AdvoWork: before doing #2, make sure you have keys set up
[11:32] <coolman> where have to change
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: not really no, if you disable logins with passwords and use only keys then the connections will be dropped if they don't have the right key file
[11:32] <coolman> int /etc/default/grub and update-grub
[11:33] <sunson> cfhowlett: cool. will do :)
[11:33] <OpenIndianaVbox> !yay | sunson
[11:33] <coolman> or in another places
[11:33] <ahhughes_> Im || close to uninstalled ubuntu and going back to windows.... been nuthin but trouble :'(
[11:33] <cfhowlett> sunson: also, tutorials and commentary is always welcome on the ubuntustudio channel and the multimedia ubuntu forums
[11:33] <coolman> ?"
[11:33] <cfhowlett> sunson: should you feel so inclined.  Thanks.
[11:33] <shomon> ah so ActionParsnip I should have run that command as my own user, not as root?
[11:33] <ow> you do this via running "ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 4096" on the /client/ machine - the one you want to connect /with/
[11:33] <shomon> as root it said it worked but then didn't but as myself it directly "reported the incident"
[11:34] <ow> use the default locations for everything, and then do "ssh-copy-id yourlogin@yourmachine"
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> shomon: any user whom can run admin tasks needs to run the command as it changes the access of the user, users cannot add themselves to groups (unless there is a group password and the user has been given the password)
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> shomon: so root or any other user in the sudo group can do i
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> it*
[11:34] <ow> this creates a special kind of authorization between your machine and the SSHD server, and will avoid the use of passwords altogether once set up
[11:34] <shomon> I did it as root.. but it still gave me the error that I'm not in sudoers as the user I meant to add to sudoers
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> shomon: if you run:  whoami   does it say 'root'?
[11:35] <shomon> ok will do it again.. this time via adding another entry to (/etc/sudoers
[11:35] <shomon> yes
[11:35] <zykotick9> shomon: "sudo" or "sudoers" group? -- FYI it's sudo
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> shomon: weird
[11:36] <marvin__> datemi il comando per favore per installare questa roba qua tramite terminale,,,gia scaricata;     BlueGriffon-1.4.1-Linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
[11:36] <cfhowlett> !es|marvin__:
[11:36] <shomon> ah now by adding direct to /etc/sudoers it worked
[11:36] <shomon> marvin__, vai nel canale in italiano
[11:36] <shomon> sará ubuntu-it immagino
[11:36] <shomon> #ubuntu-it
[11:36] <zykotick9> shomon: also FYI you need to log out - then back in.  to see group changes!
[11:37] <cfhowlett> shomon: thanks.  es and look alike to me
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> marvin__: use the getdeb ppa
[11:37] <shomon> oh yeah I'd forgotten, but adding to the group seems to have worked now
[11:37] <shomon> thanks
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> marvin__: wget http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; rm ./getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get insatll bluegriffon
sorry :-))))  ....I thought to bee in ubuntu-it
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> marvin__: ^ easy peasy
tnx ;-)
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> marvin__: getdeb has it but you need to add their PPA (using the deb file)
[11:39] <F__> hey guys is there a way to install Avast! on ubuntu 12.04?
[11:40] <OpenIndianaVbox> !av | F__
[11:41] <F__> yeah i share files with 6 other computers running windows so i really need to make sure i dont infect them
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> F__: use the repos
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> !find avast
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> hmmm
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> F__: http://www.avast.com/linux-home-edition#tab4
[11:43] <OerHeks> On their own forum > http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=91145.0
[11:45] <xyxxy>  hi. how to read continuously the current dynamic volume of the played music? i do not refer to volume level.
[11:46] <OpenIndianaVbox> xyxxy: not really a ubuntu question
[11:46] <kodo_> ragazzi salve a tutti
[11:47] <kodo_> ho provato ad installare i flash plugins
[11:47] <OpenIndianaVbox> !it | kodo_
[11:48] <shomon> xyxxy, maybe via sox?
[11:48] <kodo_> ma al momento di vedere un filmato ad esempio su youtube il browser nel caso di chrome mi dice che non puo' caricare iplugin (che ho verificato essere presenti) e nel caso di Firefox semplicemente non si apre la finestra del video
[11:48] <shomon> also vlc does normalizing of all levels played.. not sure if that's what you're after
[11:48] <kodo_> suggerimenti?
[11:48] <shomon> kodo_, no te pol parlar par italian qua. e nianca per triestin..
[11:48] <OpenIndianaVbox> kodo_: /join #ubuntu-it
[11:49] <Wernlq> Hi Friends!
[11:49] <Wernlq> help plz
[11:49] <twitchie> !ask | Wernlq
[11:49] <smartboyhw> Wernlq, what help do you want/
[11:49] <blackshirt> werniq,what is the problem?
[11:49] <Wernlq> How download video in Tor Browser?
[11:50] <shomon> Wernlq, don't. you should use i2p or something geared for high bandwidth use for private downloads on alternate networks IMO
[11:50] <Wernlq> I need grub link and download videos from sites
[11:50] <shomon> unless you are making use of tor in a civil conflict/journalism or human rights situation, leave the bandwidth to those who need it
[11:51] <Wernlq> imo?
[11:52] <Wernlq> I need to safely download videos from the Internet
[11:53] <Wernlq> Any use Tor Browser?
[11:53] <pankaj_> me
[11:53] <shomon> find them then download via https?
[11:53] <Wernlq> how download videos from youtube?
[11:54] <Wernlq> in Tor Browser
[11:54] <pankaj_> Wernlq, there are tons of website which can help u
[11:54] <Wernlq> yes?
[11:54] <Wernlq> can u gice link plz?
[11:55] <shomon> https://www.eff.org/pages/tor-and-https this is good for finding out who sees what when using tor and ssl
[11:55] <Boreeas> Tor Browser is just firefox with some modification, right? Just install some addon for firefox which does that
[11:55] <shomon> yes. the package is called vidalia, and comes with an adapted firefox and pidgin client
[11:55] <shomon> at least I think setting up tor on ubuntu is via "apt-get install vidalia tor"
[11:55] <OpenIndianaVbox> !tor
[11:56] <smartboyhw> !tor-sasl
[11:57] <Wernlq> and why freenode ban tor's IPs?
[11:57] <OpenIndianaVbox> Wernlq: ask in #freenode
[11:58] <shomon> because people use them for trolling
[11:58] <Wernlq> OpenIndiana i think this project is death
[11:58] <Wernlq> was
[11:59] <OpenIndianaVbox> Wernlq: this channel just deals with ubuntu support
[11:59] <Wernlq> Google banned IP of Tor because they want see real IP of users they make statistics
[12:01] <Wernlq> on freenode all sleeping
[12:01] <Wernlq> Why developing in Linux?
[12:01] <Wernlq> Who?
[12:01] <Wernlq> Who professional developer Linux programms?
[12:01] <Wernlq> Any here?
[12:01] <Wernlq> plz?
[12:01] <twitchie> !enter | Wernlq
[12:01] <shomon> ask in ##linux
[12:01] <OpenIndianaVbox> Wernlq: ask in ##linux
[12:02] <shomon> jinx
[12:03] <Wernlq> ok
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Wernlq: then use a different search engine...surel
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> *surely
[12:05] <Samara_> my husband is gay but I love him
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> !ot | Samara_
[12:06] <cfhowlett> Samara_: wrong channel
[12:06] <Samara_> my husband will learn ubuntu someday...
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> !ops | Samara_
[12:06] <Samara_> my husband is the brazilian or arabic bill gates
[12:08]  * cfhowlett Thinks: full moon tonight?
[12:09]  * smartboyhw is having extremely bad weather here
[12:09] <bonno> hello.. i use 11.04 and i want to upgrade to 12.04..but when i go to the update manager the only option is 11.10...why 12.04 isnt there?
[12:09] <xyxxy>  hi. how to read continuously the current dynamic volume of the played music? i do not refer to volume level.
[12:09] <smartboyhw> bonno: You can't update directly from 11.04 to 12.04
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> bonno: you must upgrade to the next release only as you are not on LTS
[12:10] <smartboyhw> You need to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 then 12.04
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> bonno: you cannot leapfrog release
[12:10] <cfhowlett> bonno: in others words, clean install 12.04
[12:10] <kodo_> ragazzi nonostante abbia installato i plugin di flash player chrome e firefox non riescono a caricarli
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> bonno: i'd clean install. Gets the OS as it is intended rather than the old fluff from the old install :)
[12:10] <smartboyhw> kodo_: Go to #ubuntu-it for Italian...
[12:12] <bonno> ok..but i just dont want to to clean install .. :P  can i upgrade to 11.10 and then 12.04 ?
[12:12] <cfhowlett> bonno: you can.
[12:13] <bonno> thanks.. hope nothing goes wrong
[12:14] <Sidewinder1> bonno, Just back up, first.
[12:14]  * skraito said hi all
[12:15] <Sidewinder1> Music, pics, data, etc.
[12:15] <dandedilia> Hello i have a big Problem: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my Samsung N145 Plus Netbook: Updates lead today is no longer the brightness setting works.  Not with the keys and not even in the brightness settings ...
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> dandedilia: this is very common
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> dandedilia: tried the boot option: acpi_backlight=vendor
[12:18] <dandedilia> okay one moment please...
[12:19] <bonno> back-up why?   if its fails i just do clean install then :P
[12:19]  * smartboyhw doesn't backup data ever lol
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> smartboyhw: you'll see
[12:21] <jilt007> i want to kill termainl. What name should be it in top , i am confused
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: gnome-terminal
[12:21] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: Thanks !
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: or press ALT+F2 and run: xkill    then click the terminal
[12:22] <jilt007> ActionParsnip:  ok i got it!
[12:24] <Kartagis> how do I check whether my host is SNMP-enabled?
[12:24] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: Also one more question  i  have two system and i have  iptables rules set in one of them for ssh to reject connection, from my second system i want to access ssh how to do that. I  just want to  bypass . How to do that any hint
[12:25] <dandedilia> ActionParsnip,  Where do I set this to the acpi_backlight ...
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> dandedilia: pastie.org/4790702
[12:26] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: Any idea>
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: delete the iptables rule
[12:27] <AdvoWork> whats the quickest way to search for sym-links in /etc? based on the name test? its taking *ages*, im trying grep -r test *
[12:27] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: i just not want to physical acces the system
[12:27] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: I want to do ssh from my second system
[12:27] <g00denough> jilt007: which won't work since you reject ssh in iptables...
[12:28] <jilt007> g00denough: Any Way to  bypass it
[12:28] <shad0wfax> jilt007: iptables -A INPUT -s ! 192.168.0.2 -p tcp -m multiport 80,443 -j DROP
[12:28] <_ruben> AdvoWork: find /etc/ -type l
[12:28] <g00denough> jilt007: no, iptables would be pointless if you easily could circumvent it
[12:28] <vvpalin> if there was a way to bypass a iptables rule jilt007 it wouldnt be a very good rule would it ?
[12:29] <jilt007> g00denough: Ok
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: http://superuser.com/questions/71163/how-to-find-all-soft-links-symbolic-links-in-current-directory
[12:29] <jilt007> g00denough: Thanks!
[12:29] <jilt007> shad0wfax: Thanks!
[12:29] <shad0wfax> jilt007: You're welcome!
[12:30] <vvpalin> that being said there might be ways but it wont be easy and its beyond my limited knowledge of iptables
[12:31] <m3pow> Hello ! Is it possible to broadcast messages from an ubuntu server to the client's browser ?
[12:32] <BebopSteve> m3pow Can you be more specific?  Because there's a lot of different ways- cgi php javascript etc etc etc
[12:32] <Night-hacks> I have windows in my virtual box with http server, can i connect from Ubuntu to it ?
[12:33] <Danno_> are there any good on screen keyboards that work at the login screen? ive tried onboard but it doesnt work at login and it doesnt seem to have a lot of non alphabet characters
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Night-hacks: bridge the LAN and you can access it like a new system on the LAN
[12:34] <m3pow> BebopSteve, in a MAN network, i want to broadcast a message to those that have debts, by sending a message in their browser at a certain time
[12:34] <Night-hacks> should i google : "LAN bridging" ?!
[12:34] <dandedilia> ActionParsnip,  THX works perfect
[12:34] <g00denough> Night-hacks: just set network to "bridged" in the vbox setup
[12:35] <Night-hacks> tnx
[12:35] <leblebi_21> Hi! :)
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> dandedilia: sweet, known issue. Real pain
[12:37] <dandedilia> ActionParsnip,  Had the problem now for the first time ... I know modest in future
[12:37] <leblebi_21> is there somebody who use UCK-Ubuntu Customization Kit here? i need to ask if i can use gui based programs on the step which open a terminal by UCK.
[12:38] <AdvoWork> am i right in thinking, sudo update-rc.d whatever disable will change the symbolic link from S to K ? ie disable the whatever on boot? and to revert, enable?
[12:39] <Danno_> are there any good on screen keyboards that work at the login screen? ive tried onboard but it doesnt work at login and it doesnt seem to have a lot of non alphabet characters
[12:39] <AdvoWork> actually, stop instead of disable
[12:40] <dandedilia> Goodbye guys ;) see us by the next problems with ubuntu ;D
[12:41] <m3pow> any thoughts on the broadcast message thing ?
[12:42] <OpenIndianaVbox> m3pow: yeah, you need to thingy the whatchamacallit
[12:43] <leblebi_21> Can i use gui based programs on the step which UbuntuCustimozationKit open a terminal?
[12:44] <m3pow> OpenIndianaVbox can youplease be more specific ?
[12:44] <OpenIndianaVbox> m3pow: that was also my point to you
[12:44] <BluesKaj> HIyas all
[12:44] <MonkeyDust>  leblebi_21 please rephrase
[12:44] <BebopSteve> m3pow Honestly more context is needed.  Are you talking about a -web- browser?  If not, are all clients using ubuntu?
[12:44] <Nickeeh> I'd like to not see any more screens of "blah blah has close unexpectedly"
[12:45] <Nickeeh> Is that a tweak somewhere?
[12:45] <m3pow> not all clients use ubuntu, of course not !
[12:45] <Nickeeh> It's hard to google.
[12:45] <Stanley00> Nickeeh: it's called apport service ;)
[12:45] <m3pow> or not necesarely into the browser, but maybe like a pop-up to notice them that they have to pay
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Nickeeh: try a different search engine then....
[12:46] <BebopSteve> m3pow Aren't there privacy laws against that
[12:46] <m3pow> i dunno BebopSteve, i am also helping a friend. He knows about these privacy things
[12:47] <m3pow> that's why i don't have much details
[12:48] <leblebi_21> MonkeyDust: Can i use all command (gui apps) on the step: "You can still select the Run Console Application option to launch a special terminal window. This terminal window represents the live CD environment" http://www.howtogeek.com/109736/how-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-or-usb/
[12:48] <Nickeeh> Stanley00: awesome. You think if I flip enabled=0 in it's conf file my computer will misbehave?
[12:48] <BebopSteve> m3pow Well if it isn't a web browser they're communicating with your server in, and you don't own the pc your client is using, you're out of luck as far as I know
[12:49] <Stanley00> Nickeeh: I don't think so. I have that disable too :D
[12:49] <Nickeeh> Stanley00: great! Cheers :)
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> leblebi_21  haven't tried
[12:49] <m3pow> ok BebopSteve, thanks for helping
[12:50] <rolling2k> 4282087092066594	0215	640	Casey Weiss	3704 Promontory Street	San Diego	CA	UNITED STATES	92109	
[12:50] <BebopSteve> the heck?
[12:50] <ulkesh> wow
[12:50] <paata> hi all
[12:50] <rolling2k> 4342570012139086 	05/15 	061 	Jeffrey Roiland 	1818 Shilhon Rd 	Duluth 	MN 	55804 	United States
[12:50] <g00denough> !ops | rolling2k spams again
[12:51] <BebopSteve> why randomly spurt off people's financial info
[12:52] <BebopSteve> I mean, if ya got it, one would assume you keep your illegal sources to yourself
[12:52] <g00denough> BebopSteve: who cares about spammers intentions
[12:53] <BebopSteve> well I smell entrapment
[12:53] <BebopSteve> but anyone dumb enough would deserve it I guess
[12:53] <smartboyhw> ActionParsnip, what do you mean by "You'll see"?
[12:54] <jilt007> I am through irssi , how to switch to differnt channels in  it?
[12:55] <dr_willis> you mean join other channels or change windows in irssi?
[12:55] <g00denough> jilt007: /j #channel, switch with esc+window-number
[12:55] <platschi> or /win #
[12:55] <dr_willis> alt-# may work also
[12:56] <BluesKaj> why would spmeone who's dumb as you put it deserve to be punshed for being so , BebopSteve ?
[12:57] <jilt007> g00denough: Thanks alot!
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> smartboyhw: you'll get some situation where your data integrity is in jeapordy and you'll regret not having a backup
[12:57] <GOMI> i have a question , i get an exclamation mark telling me about "update information is outdated" but when i click it it only says vlc  reposetories fail ??
[12:57] <GOMI> what does that mean
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: run:  sudo apt-get udpate     is it smooth?
[12:57] <AdvoWork> how would i go about rename all symbolic links, im trying to change from S to K. I can see I can do sudo update-rc.d whatever stop, but it needs an NN, but i dont know this
[12:57] <smartboyhw> ActionParsnip, ;0
[12:57] <dr_willis> you using a vlc ppa   GOMI ?
[12:58] <BebopSteve> BluesKaj If they use said leaked financial data spammed just now to say, purchase a new TV online, I feel they would deserve the cops barging down their door
[12:58] <GOMI> ActionParsnip,  yes smooth
[12:58] <GOMI> dr_willis,  yes i think so
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: is the exclamation gone now?
[12:59] <GOMI> ActionParsnip,  no , at the end i get some errors about vlc
[12:59] <g00denough> AdvoWork: better to use sysv-rc-conf with upstart. NN are the runlevels (ubuntu is not using those) you want to change
[12:59] <GOMI> ActionParsnip, W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/stable-daily/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[12:59] <GOMI> i think i have to delete them right ?
[12:59] <dr_willis> GOMI:  the ppa may be dead
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/stable-daily/ubuntu/dists/   PPA doesn't support Natty
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: that PPA only supports Oneiric, Precise and Quantal
[13:00] <ulkesh> GOMI: if you go to http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/stable-daily/ubuntu/dists/ in a web browser, you'll not see natty there
[13:00] <dr_willis> do you really need the daily build of vlc?
[13:00] <rolling2k> im back
[13:00] <rolling2k> lol
[13:00] <GOMI> ActionParsnip, okey
[13:01] <AdvoWork> g00denough, ok, ill look into that. why better?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: hence the exclamation mark. You do realise that Natty is EOL at the end of next month? I suggest you upgrade to a newer release soon
[13:01] <g00denough> AdvoWork: it works better with the upstart-mechanisms
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: later versions are better by default ;)
[13:02] <BebopSteve> proxy kiddie
[13:02] <GOMI> ActionParsnip,  yes i know  i will , just afraid that something will go wrong during upgrade -__-!)
[13:02] <AdvoWork> g00denough, my only concern is, i'd need to install it, and this server is pretty fragile at the moment
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: then clean install Precise and you will have a release supported til 2017
[13:02] <dr_willis> been having some weird issues in vlc lately where, sound never comes back is i pause/restart a video
[13:03] <money> good morning america
[13:03] <money> full of nigger
[13:03] <FloodBot1> money: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:04] <g00denough> AdvoWork: doesn't "sudo update-rc.d service disable" work for you? afaik runlevels (NN) are optional
[13:13] <QuantumQrack> Anybody have any recommendations for ubuntu 64 bit vs. 32 bit running from flash drive?
[13:14] <jilt007> HOw to see all system connected in my network using arp command
[13:15] <AdvoWork> g00denough, i try that, it just shows usage, ie it doesn't accept disable. but this is an old system though :S
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: you can use: smbtree
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: depends on RAM amount and what you are using the OS for really
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: the fact it's on a flash drive isn't really a factor
[13:21] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: Thanks a lot!
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: or nmap
[13:23] <QuantumQrack> ActionParsnip, I want to switch to using Linux instead of Windows.  But I want to try it out first.  I installed a bootable version on my flash drive, 64bit, but it didnt seem to work.  I have an Intel i7 processor, 6 gigs of ram, and SSD, some 1 terabyte hard drives, etc.
[13:23] <jilt007> ActionParsnip:  I am familiar with nmap, but how to use smbtree , never heared about this
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: just run it, then type your user password
[13:24] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: i did that but nothing happend
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: its to show samba shares but it will show the systems even if they are not sharing stuff
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: ok and what is the OS used for?
[13:24] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: Asked for password but not showed the shared  or the sytem
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: thought it'd show the systems on the LAN. oh well
[13:25] <QuantumQrack> ActionParsnip--browsing the internet, games ported for linux, chatting on irc, media intensive tasks such as watching movies, tv shows, etc.
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: you could use 32bit for that, nothing too intensive there. 64bit will let the OS see your RAM as one block, 32bit with PAE will use it all but each process will have a maximum RAM of 3.2Gb.
[13:27] <QuantumQrack> Yeah, I would rather use 64 bit, unless it isnt a very good experience...
[13:27] <QuantumQrack> I tried to run 64 bit from the flash drive, but it seemed to get into an endless loop
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: i'll be the same as the 32bit...
[13:28] <alecb> I just tried to re-compile kernel wifi drivers as outlined here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/95360/how-to-get-a-stable-wlan-connection-with-a-lenovo-x121e, how would I check if what I did actually worked or not? (ie, if I'm using the freshly compiled drivers or not)
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[13:28] <QuantumQrack> no, I just followed the instructions here:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: ahh did the app download the ISO for you?
[13:29] <QuantumQrack> No, I downloaded it separately.
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: did you MD5 test it?
[13:30] <QuantumQrack> No, how do I do that?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[13:31] <QuantumQrack> !md5
[13:31] <Sidewinder1> !hashes | QuantumQrack
[13:33] <retrorex> I use winxp and ubuntu winxp is my boot partition . I wan't to format boot partition. Will I be able to login to ubuntu
[13:35] <AdvoWork> g00denough, any further ideas?
[13:35] <QuantumQrack> hrmm, MD5 checksums are different
[13:36] <smartboyhw> QuantumQrack, make sure you check the right one, if not redownload sorry
[13:36] <retrorex> does grub reside in boot partition
[13:36] <QuantumQrack> yeah, I guess I can redownload.  fast connection, shouldnt take too long
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> retrorex: you may need to reinstate grub using liveCD
[13:37] <Sidewinder1> QuantumQrack, Bad ISO, probably; redownload, then md5sum the new ISO to be certain.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: thats why you are getting the issue and is why MD5 testing exists
[13:37] <retrorex> sad thing my cd drive not working
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: use torrents for extra checks on the data. Can help
[13:37] <QuantumQrack> Im just going to download from Ubuntu.com again.  or do you recommend another site?
[13:38] <g00denough> AdvoWork: "shows usage"? you misformed the command then
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: the site is irrelevant, as long as the hashes match its fine
[13:38] <AdvoWork> g00denough, im wondering if this old version of ubuntu doesnt allow "disable" for update-rc.d ?
[13:38] <alix_> hi all
[13:38] <Sidewinder1> QuantumQrack, WADR to ActionParsnip, even after using torrents (which contain auto error checking), still, md5sum the ISO..
[13:38] <g00denough> AdvoWork: check "man update-rc.d" but i doubt it
[13:38] <alix_> do anyone know a django channel?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> alix_: try #django
[13:39] <AdvoWork> g00denough, man shows that the options are defaults/stop/start
[13:41] <g00denough> AdvoWork: try "sudo update-rc.d <service> stop 2 3 4 5 ."
[13:42] <AdvoWork> g00denough, it runs, but says "System startup links for ... already exist. I assume a force would be needed,ie -f ?
[13:45] <akis> can any one help me to clear my dashboard and specialy 'files and folders' section because some of the /dir they don't exist anymore on my hd. i tried to do a clearness using  'activity log manager' but the /dirs are still there. any idea?
[13:45] <g00denough> AdvoWork: i guess it should have been "sudo update-rc.d <service> -f remove && sudo update-rc.d <service> stop 2 3 4 5 ."
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> akis: use the icon that has the yellow arrow going round in a circle under dash
[13:47] <akis> do you mean activity log manager? i installed and i used it already, but nothing happened cleaning all the history.
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> akis: yeah you can clean those there as well as tell the logging which apps to ignore too :)
[13:48] <AdvoWork> g00denough, whats that going to remove though, isn't thatjust the same as doing the remove in the first place?
[13:49] <g00denough> AdvoWork: "remove" removes the links but won't create Kxx links again
[13:49] <AdvoWork> g00denough, but what do I do when i need to turn these back on again?
[13:49] <g00denough> AdvoWork: this would disable a service until the next update of the package, which would recreate the start-links
[13:50] <g00denough> AdvoWork: thats why i suggested sysv-rc-conf, which handles this correct (afaik)
[13:52] <g00denough> AdvoWork: to turn them on, you just remove them again, and run update-rc.d defaults
[13:53] <akis> yep but why the folders 'pictures', 'music' 'downolad' are still there although i deleted form my hd and i asked from 'activity log manager' to clear everything form my dashboard?
[13:55] <AdvoWork> g00denough, ill try
[13:55] <genii-around> akis: If a directory is specified in /home/your-username/.config/user-dirs.dirs it gets created again whether you deleted it or not
[13:56] <akis> yea you have right but those dirs they are not on my hd any more. do i have to edit user-dirs.dirs?
[13:57] <pavelz> Hi, I am working with Macs most of the day and have ubuntu lappie at home. I wonder if there is any way to transfer keyboard layouts from Mac to Ubuntu
[13:57] <genii-around> akis: Yes, if you comment out the ones you do not want the system to re-make every boot/login then they will be gone for good.
[13:59] <Ndushi> My laptop lost power and when I try to start it up again it just boots to a BusyBox-terminal, so I tried to boot from my live-USB stick and it says the harddrive's file system is "Unknown". I tried to reformat it and it wouldn't work… "cannot create file system fsync input/output-error"
[14:00] <amir__> hi
[14:00] <amir__> asl plz?
[14:00] <bazhang> amir__, wrong network for that
[14:00] <alioguzhan> yea
[14:00] <bazhang> Guest86326, not here
[14:00] <akis> ok thanks. i'll try it and i'll report.
[14:01] <Guest86326> me f 22 :))
[14:01] <bazhang> Guest63753, stop that , its offtopic here
[14:02] <genii-around> Guest86326: This channel is to help people with their Ubuntu operating system.
[14:02] <AdvoWork> I'm doing: find /etc/ -type l | grep whatever to find sym-links, can i list at the same time where those links are linked to?
[14:02] <g00denough> AdvoWork: ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*servicename
[14:04] <zykotick9> g00denough: i doubt update-rc.d should be used on ubuntu, as ubuntu uses upstart...  just sayin'
[14:04] <AdvoWork> g00denough, thanks
[14:04] <g00denough> zykotick9: "AdvoWork: thats why i suggested sysv-rc-conf, which handles this correct (afaik)  "       just saying ;)
[14:05] <g00denough> AdvoWork: they usually all link to /etc/init.d/servicename
[14:05] <elfenixtorres> amir__: 12.04, thus 5months, no gender, on your computer
[14:06] <K4k> Hey, I just rebooted my system and I'm getting "running in low graphics mode" now and I can't control anything with the laptops mouse and keyboard. I'm having to use a USB keyboard right now. I don't see anything odd in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Anywhere else I might look?
[14:06] <AdvoWork> g00denough, they do yeah, theres a few repeated ones though, ie.  /etc/rc2.d/S01whatever  /etc/rc2.d/S99whatever   /etc/rc3.d/K01whatever   /etc/rc3.d/S99whatever
[14:07] <g00denough> AdvoWork: i'd remove all those links manually and create new one from scratch
[14:08] <AdvoWork> g00denough, why, just to make it tidier?
[14:08] <g00denough> AdvoWork: to have a "clean base"
[14:09] <ludwig_> hi folks... i need to increase the stack size for apache (mpm_prefork) any ideas?
[14:09] <AdvoWork> wont the defaults bit fix all that though, if i remove them all?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> ludwig_: have you asked in the apache channel too?
[14:09] <ludwig_> @ActionParsnip: not yet, but good idea
[14:10] <zykotick9> g00denough: /etc/init.d is SYSV - NOT upstart!  /etc/init/ is upstart.
[14:10] <g00denough> AdvoWork: it should, but didnt you want to disable the service?
[14:10] <pseudonymous> I'm trying to install texlive to write a report for tomorrow, but I get a rather cryptic "E: unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[14:11] <g00denough> zykotick9: yes, but sysv-rc-conf handles old sysv-links in a upstart-pleasant way (in opposite to updae-rc.d)
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> pseudonymous: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[14:11] <parlon> Hi, when I run netstat, I see 10's of connections like "tcp        0      0 localhost:empowerid         localhost:33441             TIME_WAIT", there is no user called empowerid. Any idea what is happening?
[14:11] <AdvoWork> g00denough, yeah disable and re enable at a later stage, but if i remove(it will clean them out) then stop to disable, then remove, then default(or start instead?)
[14:12] <pseudonymous> ActionParsnip: I did, along with "apt-get clean; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade".. Specifically "apt-get install -f" just informs me of some packages which are installed but no longer needed, it doesn't seem to *do* anything
[14:13] <g00denough> AdvoWork: that should work
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> pseudonymous: you can clean up with:  sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[14:13] <pseudonymous> ActionParsnip: is it strictly needed to clean away the unused packages, though ?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> pseudonymous: its handy, saves unecessary updates too
[14:15] <pseudonymous> Although on a laptop, I have some 300+ GB and the main reason why I run Ubuntu is to have a stable base. I have no use for a few extra megs or anything. What I'm getting at is, is there the slightest chance that these packages could have something else break ?
[14:17] <QuantumQrack> So I have downloaded this again:  ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso and the MD5 checksums still do not match up.  What is going on?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> pseudonymous: you'll need to satisfy package dependencies, if the deps are held due to other deps being held then you will need to wait
[14:17] <ebisinep> hello rum???
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: what hash do you get
[14:18] <olga__>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:18] <QuantumQrack> 06472ddf11382c8da1f32e9487435c3d
[14:18] <olga__>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/MD5SUMS    looks fine, desktop amd64....
[14:19] <QuantumQrack> 128f0c16f4734c420b0185a492d92e52
[14:19] <pseudonymous> ActionParsnip: well that's what I don't get, I was under the impression that once I've done a full system update (apt-get update && apt-get upgrade) I should be able to install whatever package in the repo that I wanted. Surely texlive isn't broken in the repos as in half the packages are updated.. And if not(which I assume) what do you mean ?
[14:19] <QuantumQrack> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[14:20] <olga__> доброго времени суток
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> pseudonymous: are there bugs reported?
[14:20] <bazhang> olga__, english here only
[14:20] <bazhang> olga__, russian in #ubuntu-ru
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes  has that hash, looks good
[14:20] <olga__> #ubuntu-ru
[14:20] <olga__> (
[14:21] <QuantumQrack> ActionParsnip, I guess I am comparing it to the wrong hash.
[14:21] <pseudonymous> ActionParsnip: I'd have no clue where to start looking for that
[14:21] <olga__> need russ ubunta chanel help plise
[14:21] <QuantumQrack> Ill try to get the flash drive to work again I guess.
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> !bug | pseudonymous
[14:21] <bazhang> olga__, /join #ubuntu-ru   <------ NO spaces
[14:22] <olga__> thank you
[14:23] <Ndushi> My laptop lost power and when I try to start it up again it just boots to a BusyBox-terminal, so I tried to boot from my live-USB stick and it says the harddrive's file system is "Unknown". I tried to reformat it and it wouldn't work… "cannot create file system fsync input/output-error"
[14:25] <aguitel> is there anyway to install 8.04 in old laptop?
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> aguitel  8.04 is no longer supported
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> or it should be server
[14:27] <OerHeks> aguitel, sure, you can download the cd, and maybe you can have some updates too =, with 'old-releases' >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Requirements
[14:27] <aguitel> MonkeyDust, i know ,but i need some old distro to support old hardware
[14:27] <pseudonymous> ActionParsnip: probably some damned ppa screwing it all up. I should've known that there's no free lunch
[14:27] <Ndushi> Anyone have an idea to solve my problem?
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> aguitel  i'm sure 12.04 supports your hardware
[14:28] <OerHeks> Ndushi, no, sounds like a hardware problem
[14:28] <aguitel> i return in 2 hours ,thanks
[14:30] <Evdb> Hey guys! I need some help, again
[14:30] <pseudonymous> Ok - is there a way to see WHICH packages it thinks I'm holding back and which are choking a certain install so I don't go willy nilly nuking java, wine, gimp 2.8 etc just to make apt happy again ?
[14:32] <insomniaSalt> hi all
[14:32] <Evdb> I finally managed to run Ubuntu live from a bootable USB. It seemed like I installed Ubuntu although at the end of the installer i got a problem that GRUB wasn't able to install in the root. When I now try to boot into Ubuntu using rEFIt it give the error 'missing software'. Anyone can help?
[14:32] <anxel> hello
[14:32] <insomniaSalt> so I've been very very stupid and accidentally tried to mount a partition onto itself in /etc/fstab
[14:33] <insomniaSalt> any way to recover?
[14:33] <anxel> someone helps me to install fmod in ubuntu please?
[14:33] <Evdb> bekks: ya here? :P
[14:33] <bazhang> anxel, what is fmod
[14:34] <anxel> its a sound library
[14:34] <entity999> bazhang; anxel have Ubuntu, but don't have fmod in repos
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> found: pdfmod
[14:34] <entity999> lubuntu*
[14:34] <bazhang> anxel, to achieve what
[14:34] <Guest53605> hello
[14:34] <anxel> correct, i dont have fmod in repos
[14:34] <entity999> bazhang; to have game working
[14:34] <entity999> :)
[14:35] <Evdb> Come on anyone I need this really bad
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> !refit
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> gah
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> !info refit
[14:40] <Evdb> Please someone :(
[14:40] <bazhang> !helpme | Evdb
[14:40] <dr_willis> please what?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> Evdb  as soon as someone enters who can help, s/he most probably will
[14:41] <Evdb> I'm sorry but I have been trying from yesterday morning to get this to work  need it to get working for school
[14:41] <dr_willis> never used refit. so no ides
[14:41] <Evdb> Are there refit alternatives for mac?
[14:42] <oldskool_> Hey I am trying to put my vm image on a seperate hd .. how to do point to another hard drive?  I use virt-manager
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> oh, mac
[14:42] <pseudonymous> Ok, I have a *really* central package overwritten by a ppa which I've already removed as it holds up some upgrades. If I try to force the official precise pkg from synaptic it gives me a mile long list of packages it'll nuke. I don't want that, why the heck can't it see that there's no way these packages can't stay on the system ?
[14:42] <akis> i am trying to run activity-log-manager through terminal because i cannot run it click in on it and i amgetting the followin message http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224612/. why? previously it run well.
[14:42]  * insomniaSalt recovered his partitions, thanks and bye.
[14:42] <pseudonymous> (and yes, the majority of the packages it wants to remove are not related to that ppa in the SLIGHTEST, but are other, official precise, packages..)
[14:43] <snwh> pseudonymous, could you be more specific?
[14:44] <bazhang> pseudonymous, tried ppa-purge yet?
[14:44] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | pseudonymous
[14:44] <pseudonymous> snwh: as in, I have a zlib1g package from a ppa called izx-bleeding-precise and if I try to (within synaptic) force that package back to the official ubuntu precise version, it seriously suggests removing **xorg** what kind of.. BLEEPING retarded suggestion is that ?
[14:45] <snwh> pseudonymous, you could trying installing ppa-purge and using that from the terminal.
[14:45] <pseudonymous> bazhang: I removed the ppa itself using a gui(I'm lazy like that) called YPPA. Seems like it's gone though the packages it's overwritten are still there
[14:47] <OerHeks> pseudonymous, use ppa-purge.
[14:48] <OerHeks> pseudonymous, if it still messes up your system, contact the owner of the ppa.
[14:48] <pseudonymous> OerHeks: (excuse my growing frustration) I just tried, but "ppa-purge izx-bleeding-precise" ends up showing the help message displayed when you muck up a command instructing me to type exactly what I did( as far as I can see).. tried the -p switch too, but no mas
[14:49] <jrib> pseudonymous: did you try with the "ppa:" part?
[14:49] <gau1991> Hello
[14:49] <OerHeks> pseudonymous, no need for an option,  sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>
[14:50] <pseudonymous> "ppa-purge ppa:izx-bleeding-precise" does not work
[14:50] <_XMENDES> hy guys.. i need help. You know what program use to be movies server to a WDtv Live?
[14:51] <jrib> pseudonymous: 1) you should pastebin exact error/output 2) are you sure that's the right name of the ppa?
[14:51] <mach-bar> find /etc/ -type l -ls
[14:51] <mach-bar> oh shit, that was long time ago...
[14:52] <_XMENDES> anyone?
[14:52] <jrib> !helpme | _XMENDES
[14:52] <_XMENDES> ok
[14:52] <mach-bar> !repeat
[14:52] <_XMENDES> You know what program use to be movies server to a WDtv Live?
[14:52] <jrib> _XMENDES: please wait a reasonable time before repeating...
[14:52] <_XMENDES> ok
[14:53] <jrib> _XMENDES: I have no idea what WDtv Live is
[14:53] <_XMENDES> so sorry
[14:53] <captine> _XMENDES, is WDtv a dlna compliant thing?
[14:53] <oldskool_> ubottu: please help me
[14:53] <oldskool_> ubottu: can you help me
[14:53] <_XMENDES> wdtv is like appletv our boxe
[14:54] <Pricey> oldskool_: I think you might be able to use symlinks to achieve this. I'm pretty sure virt-manager likes all of its images in one place... have you googled?
[14:54] <oldskool_> Pricey: seriously?
[14:54] <Pricey> oldskool_: Oh, you just need to add a new storage pool... http://virt-manager.org/page/StorageManagement
[14:55] <_XMENDES> its a media center..
[14:55] <oldskool_> Pricey: I want to avoid that because then I am running the vm server and the vm images on the same drive and it bottle necks it...
[14:55] <oldskool_> Pricey: Thank you sec
[14:56] <pseudonymous> Well, figures.. I (curtesy of YPPA) mucked about enough to understand I had to type ppa:izx/bleeding. And ppa-purge also feels like nuking my system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224635/
[14:56] <_XMENDES> i want put my movies on a ubuntu folder and open with WDTV.
[14:57] <jrib> pseudonymous: you might try again with the ppa in question enabled
[14:57] <pseudonymous> Aside from me being dumb enough to replace an apparently really really important package (which is stupid - I know!).. What sort of retarded system suggests nuking some 200 packages where almost ALL of them should be able to continue existing as they are stock ubuntu packages and therefore shouldn't REQUIRE some ppa version ?
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> mental note to self: prejudice toward PPAs confirmed
[14:58] <Devin> blackshirt: your still here?
[14:58] <jrib> pseudonymous: downgrading isn't actually supported
[14:58] <pseudonymous> jrib: actually, I did go ahead and re-add the ppa because I was thinking the same thing: ppa-purge probably expected the ppa to be present.
[14:58] <captine> _XMENDES, the website says it can connect to network drives.  Couldnt you setup a share?
[14:59] <JoseAntonio> any body help me?
[14:59] <jrib> pseudonymous: my guess is that ppa purge and multiarch don't play nice
[14:59] <pseudonymous> jrib: really ? If so they might as well chuck the whole ppa thing out the window. It's immensely retarded to market a feature that's so thoroughly b0rked as this. I can understand other issues, sure. But not being able to realize that the packages that these things are built against are available.. That's just plain retarded.
[14:59] <Sidewinder1> !ppa
[15:00] <Sidewinder1> That was for the 'warning' aspect.
[15:00] <pseudonymous> Yea ok, that disclaimer is lawyerese, a cop-out. They're hosted by Canonical, the infrastructure is official etc etc etc..
[15:00] <jrib> pseudonymous: PPAs are just repositories kindly hosted by launchpad; the same warnings apply as with any 3rd party repository
[15:01] <pseudonymous> Ugh.. yay.. god knows how many hours it'll take setting everything up from scratch.
[15:01] <hay> hi all.. when I try to apt-get remove dovecot-core, I get messages like: "RTNETLINK answers: File exists", "invoke-rc.d: initscript dovecot, action "stop" failed." ... and then "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"... how can I remove dovecot package? thx
[15:01] <jrib> pseudonymous: this is what you used: https://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/bleeding ?
[15:01] <needhelp1> hello, im using a 64bit version of ubuntu, and im installing the brother printer driver found here for 32 bit http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/faq_prn.html#f00104   , when installing its installed a ton of i386 stuff, is this going to be an issue?
[15:02]  * Sidewinder1 Has never used a ppa; that said, hopes he never will, call me 'old-fashioned', if you choose.
[15:02] <pseudonymous> Meh. They're hosted officially, that means they gain acceptance, acceptance which makes it into guides on doing stuff for ubuntu (it's no. 1 asset, IMHO) so.. I just don't accept the cop-out of them being unsupported. A feature maintained is implicitly supported. If it's broken you remove it
[15:02] <pseudonymous> jrib: yes
[15:02] <g00denough> needhelp1: shouldn't harm, those are needed since brother offers no amd64-packages :(
[15:03] <jrib> pseudonymous: start by removing those first 4 packages (just apt-get remove them) (everything except zlib).  Does that not do anything drastic?
[15:03] <pseudonymous> Sidewinder1: well you shouldn't either, or you get this mess, apparently
[15:03] <needhelp1> g00denough: any idea if there is anything i can do to get this printer driver added into the "add a printer" openprinting tool.
[15:03] <afd> Just got a Project Manager job where the rest of the team is on Campfire (mainly Mac users) and I want to hang on to Ubuntu... Anyone know of a client so I'm not stuck in the browser?
[15:03] <Elesa> Hi, what's the difference between Online Accounts accounts and Broadcast accounts in Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:03] <genii-around> hay: sudo stop dovecot && sudo /etc/init.d/dovecot start          then try removing the package again
[15:03] <g00denough> needhelp1: no idea
[15:04] <afd> or whether I can connect to Campfire using Empathy?
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> pseudonymous, Just in case there was any doubt in your mind about me being old-fashioned, I'm still using 10.04.
[15:04] <hay> genii-around, thx... that worked!
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> ;-)
[15:05] <Pricey> afd: http://bit.ly/RWPK4m
[15:05] <genii-around> hay: You're welcome.
[15:05] <dr_willis> needhelp1:  you did check the repos to be sure the drivers were not in some oficial package? or a ppa perhaps. the ia32lib stuff shouldent hurt anything,
[15:05] <hay> what's the easiest way to solve this: "php5-ldap : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.10-1ubuntu3) but 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.2 is to be installed"?
[15:05] <pseudonymous> jrib: only had some version of the gwaei package which I then removed, the others (mtr, munin, powertop) it says I don't have.
[15:05] <afd> Pricey - I did DuckDuckGo first... but thanks :)
[15:06] <jrib> hay: the easiest way to solve it is to know what was done regarding unofficial repositories and unofficial packages
[15:06] <Pricey> afd: hmm... 8th result... I'll stick to Google for a while :P
[15:06] <Pricey> afd: Also, sorry :-)
[15:06] <jrib> pseudonymous: ok, now we must finesse zlib.  What's the result of « apt-cache policy zlib »?
[15:06] <needhelp1> dr_willis: I just searched around online and found some ubuntu forums post's to use the brother prop driver installer. im assuming the 100 + i386 lib's it installed wont hurt anything
[15:07] <jrib> pseudonymous: uh, before you do that, run a « sudo apt-get update »
[15:07] <dr_willis> needhelp1: those are 32bit support stuff
[15:07] <pseudonymous> jrib: there's no zlib, actually.. The package (checked via synaptic) is zlib1g (and zlib1g-dev)
[15:08] <jrib> pseudonymous: right, check those
[15:08] <Elesa> Hi, what's the difference between Online Accounts accounts and Broadcast accounts in Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:08] <nekthar_> Can I ask questions in here? I need some help
[15:08] <pseudonymous> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224654/ :)
[15:08] <zmyrgel> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu to dual boot with vista
[15:09] <zmyrgel> but some reason the installer won't find my disk partitions
[15:09] <jrib> pseudonymous: actually, you need to click on the arrow to the left of "zlib" at ttps://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/bleeding/+packages and check each of those packages
[15:09] <zmyrgel> gparted finds the partitions and I created linux partitions but still the installer doesn't list them
[15:09] <nekthar_> I'll just go ahead and ask away after Kakkar
[15:09] <BluesKaj> zmyrgel, use the manual partitioning
[15:09] <Pricey> Elesa: I 'think' broadcast accounts are most social media type things... where you want to 'broadcast' your status.. twitter/facebook etc.
[15:09] <nekthar_> Oh, he left
[15:09] <nekthar_> I'd like to ask
[15:10] <Pricey> Elesa: I 'think' online accounts are more instant messenging type things...
[15:10] <_XMENDES>  i want put my movies on a ubuntu folder and open with WDTV. did anyone knows what program use for this?
[15:10] <zmyrgel> BluesKaj: how to get the installer to proceed them?
[15:10] <hay> jrib, I just used some other source to install some packages... the version mismatch is very small...
[15:10] <jrib> hay: :x
[15:10] <hay> :)
[15:11] <Pricey> _XMENDES: Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Media#UPnP_sharing_with_uShare (A google suggests wdtv works with dlna devices in the same way as the xbox)
[15:11] <Pricey> _XMENDES: actually ignore those instructions!!! ushare should be part of the standard repository..
[15:11] <Pricey> !info ushare
[15:11] <nekthar_> I have a Windows7 PC, an Ubuntu netbook, and now an Ubuntu desktop. I installed Ubuntu on both the netbook and desktop at the same time. I configured my wireless connection to both, and connected fine. The netbook can see and ping the Windows pc and vice versa. Unfortunately, despite being connected to the net, the desktop can not ping or be pinged. What can I do?
[15:11] <_XMENDES> i ready have this installed??
[15:11] <pseudonymous> jrib: ok, the expanded paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224659/
[15:12] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, try the manual option , conmtinue
[15:12] <Pricey> _XMENDES: I'd look into ushare. "sudo apt-get install ushare".
[15:12] <BluesKaj> oops sorry zykotick9
[15:12] <_XMENDES> will try.. tks
[15:13] <BluesKaj> zmyrgel, try the manual option , continue
[15:13] <jrib> pseudonymous: ok.  What I would do is just plain remove all of the -dev packages because those won't take anything with them.  Then of the remaining that you have installed, you can issue: sudo apt-get -t precise install PACKAGE1 PACKAGE2 ...
[15:13] <SaCruM> Hello, could someone tell me a site where i could download filters like instagram for Gimp for ubuntu? Thank you.
[15:13] <zmyrgel> BluesKaj: what do you mean by manual option?
[15:13] <gorgonzola> hello peoples. I'm getting a "Icedtea is out of date" message in chrome, but i have made sure that i have icetea-7-plugin installed. is anybody aware of any packaging problems?
[15:13] <zmyrgel> I've got the livecd desktop and the graphical installer won't let me continue
[15:14] <BluesKaj> zmyrgel, on the partitioning page , there should be a manual option / button
[15:14] <SaCruM> Hello, could someone tell me a site where i could download filters like instagram for Gimp for ubuntu? Thank you.
[15:14] <jrib> pseudonymous: I need to step out for ~15 minutes
[15:14] <pseudonymous> jrib: I'm sort of confused.. "apt-get -t precise PKG ..... " you want to do that BEFORE removing the existing packages and hope apt just installs them ?
[15:14] <Elesa> thanks Pricey  :D
[15:15] <pseudonymous> jrib: oh ok. I'll probably wait before I kill my OS ;)
[15:15] <Pricey> pseudonymous: I believe -t will ensure you have ubuntu's version of it, not any ppa etc.
[15:15] <Pricey> well, '-t precise'.
[15:15] <jrib> pseudonymous: I am suggesting you remove the -dev packages you have installed on that list (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224659/), then of the remaning packages that say "Installed: SOME_VERSION_HERE", you write down those packages and give them to the command: apt-get -t precise install PUT_THOSE_NON_DEV_PACKAGES_YOU_HAVE_INSTALLED_HERE
[15:16] <SaCruM> Hello, could someone tell me a site where i could download filters like instagram for Gimp for ubuntu? Thank you.
[15:16] <BluesKaj> zmyrgel, I assume you're installing as we speak ?
[15:16] <zmyrgel> BluesKaj: the installer gives me the Installation Type page but it has "create partition" etc. greyed so. It only allows to select "Disk where to install boot loader" option
[15:17] <zmyrgel> And the partition section is empty. If I start the gparted it find the partitions I've made to it
[15:17] <zmyrgel> NTFS, ext2, swap and a  ext4 partition
[15:18] <zetheroo> when I am on Pidgin and the other guy is n Gtalk (Windows), both on our Google accounts, I can make an Audio call, but if we are both on Pidgin with our Google account there is no longer the option to Audio call ...
[15:18] <pseudonymous> Hmm just tried that and it's insistant on nuking my system, even the -dev packages have LOADS of requirements attached to them. Some of which I use for C++ development. I think it's better I just give up. Time to distro hop to some distro where the package manager isn't a total dependency nazi (!)
[15:18] <BluesKaj> zmyrgel, you don't see the autopartition option , or a manual option , if I recall the manual choice is at the bottom of the list
[15:18] <pseudonymous> jrib: that said - when you get back--- THANKS FOR TRYING
[15:18] <gyre007> I wonder if I can upgrade just certain package rather than the whole system...will apt-get install upgrade pkg_name do ?
[15:19] <gorgonzola> anyone else having problems with Java in oneiric? I'm getting a "plugin out of date" message in chrome and firefox...
[15:20] <OerHeks> gorgonzola, what is the name of the plugin?
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> gyre007  every release uses its own package versions
[15:20] <zmyrgel> BluesKaj: nope, I just installed ubuntu just fine on a laptop
[15:20] <gorgonzola> OerHeks: chrome complains explicitly about icedtea. firefox just dies silently.
[15:21] <gyre007> MonkeyDust, withing the same release...
[15:21] <gyre007> ie upgrade just one package on 11.10
[15:21] <gorgonzola> OerHeks, and hrome sends me to the icedtea wiki
[15:21] <gyre007> not the whole distro
[15:21] <gyre007> neither all packages
[15:21] <OerHeks> gorgonzola, chrome renders java by itself, no need for icedtea
[15:22] <gorgonzola> OerHeks really? then why is my chrome refusing to run java and blaming the plugin? should i remove icedtea and see what happens?
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> gyre007  I rephrase: each release has its own repos, software from outside the repos is not supported
[15:22] <OerHeks> gorgonzola, see the !java factoid howto select your java version
[15:22] <OerHeks> !java
[15:23] <gorgonzola> OerHeks, aight, i'll go read an brb. thanks
[15:23] <gyre007> MonkeyDust, so there is no way to upgrade the package youre sayin...
[15:24] <dr_willis> within the same release kt should be possiblre,
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> gyre007  it is, as long as it is in the release's repos
[15:24] <AdvoWork> would time stop an rsync, ie: time rsync -azx --stats --progress -numeric-ids --bwlimit=500 /mnt/test/ /mnt/test2  it says "DRY RUN" at the end?
[15:24] <gyre007> dr_willis, i hope it is...
[15:24] <dr_willis> but any updates are security updates for thr most part. i dont see why you wouldent update the while system
[15:25] <gorgonzola> OerHeks, ok, so java i set java to use open-jdk 7, and restarted chrome, but it still throws the same error.
[15:25] <dr_willis> you could just remove/reinstall the app you want to update
[15:25] <BluesKaj> zmyrgel, guess ubiquity isn't what it used to be
[15:26] <OerHeks> gorgonzola, again: chrome renders java by itself, use an other browser
[15:27] <gorgonzola> OerHeks: independently of how chrome is known to work, in this machine it is throwing a message about icedtea being out of date. Firefox just doesn't run java, and throws no message. I on't want to use another browser. Do ou think uninstalling icedtea would work?
[15:28] <gorgonzola> OerHeks: rekonq behaves similarly, fyi.
[15:28] <dr_willis> whats throwing the message about icedtea being out of date?
[15:28] <gorgonzola> chrome
[15:28] <jrib> pseudonymous: what did you type?
[15:29] <gorgonzola> dr_willis: no browser runs any java plugin, but chrome is the only one that blames icedtea.
[15:29] <dr_willis> jrib:  i think he gave up.
[15:29] <zmyrgel> BluesKaj: ran sudo dmraid -rE and now the installer find the disk
[15:30] <BluesKaj> zmyrgel, so you are on a raid ..., that's differnt
[15:30] <AaronCampbell> I tried "gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"" to allow icons in the panel (like Skype)
[15:30] <AaronCampbell> That's all I remember having to do in 12.04.  Am I missing something or did it change in 12.10?
[15:31] <jrib> !12.10 | AaronCampbell
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> AaronCampbell  are you in 12.10?
[15:31] <dr_willis> AaronCampbell:  its very likely it has changed.
[15:31] <Ishitva> Hello respectable friends ! I am a beginner , I want to install Ubuntu alongwith Windows 7 . I have only one partition on my hard disk. Please guide me with the process ?
[15:31] <AaronCampbell> ubottu: But only if it's actually related to 12.10 :|  I'm just not sure.
[15:31] <AaronCampbell> jrib: But only if it's actually related to 12.10 :|  I'm just not sure.
[15:32] <jrib> AaronCampbell: #ubuntu+1 is the right place to ask for help if you are on 12.10
[15:32] <AaronCampbell> I remember having to do something, I thought that was it, but it's been about 6 months since I had to do it
[15:32] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  first thing to do would be backup any imporant data. and be sure you got your windows restore disks. just in case
[15:33] <Ishitva> dr_willis: do I need to create a seperate partition for Ubuntu ?
[15:33] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  thats normally done by the installer.
[15:34] <Ishitva> dr_willis:  How do we partition the disks ?
[15:34] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  it would be an odd windows install these days that only has one partition
[15:34] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  done by the installer.... it can partition
[15:35] <Ishitva> dr_willis: please guide me , how to partition ?
[15:35] <_XMENDES> there is a program to remote acess like win vnc for ubuntu?
[15:35] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  you do have backups made, and restore disks made?
[15:35] <arnotixe> hi all how do I connect to display 0 when only lightdm is running ? Ubuntu 13. Tried logging in with ssh and reverse-connecting the machine with x11vnc -connect <remote> -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 but it barfs with ̈́XOpenDisplay("0") failed'
[15:35] <jrib> !vnc | _XMENDES
[15:35] <Ishitva> dr_willis: no not yet
[15:36] <jrib> arnotixe: no such thing as "ubuntu 13"
[15:36] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  you do have a ubuntu desktop cd made to install from?
[15:36] <arnotixe> jrib, hehe ups it's 12.04.1 LTS
[15:36] <jrib> !vnc | arnotixe
[15:36] <jrib> arnotixe: see if that's helpful
[15:37] <arnotixe> thanks i'll have a look
[15:37] <ring0> jrib, linut mint is at number 13. so, maybe he's not really into ubuntu ;)
[15:37] <Ishitva> dr_willis: I have downloaded Ubuntu 12 image ( 32 Bit) , but a friend of mine is saying that 64 bit is better , but since Ubuntu 12 64 bit has some bugs he has advised me to download Ubuntu 11.1 version
[15:37] <crizis> huh
[15:37] <_XMENDES> i have a win station, i can control ubuntu by this? using vnc?
[15:38] <jrib> ring0: heh
[15:38] <dr_willis> i always use 64bit on hardware that supports 64bit Ishitva .
[15:38] <crizis> Ishitva, just download 12.04 and ignore him :P
[15:38] <Juze> _XMENDES: There are a lot of VNC apps for Windows too
[15:38] <Juze> And yes, download 12.04 x64
[15:38] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  i dont know what 'bugs' you would be refering to
[15:38] <_XMENDES> ok .. i will try .. tks
[15:38] <Ishitva> dr_willis: but even on the downloads page , it is mentioned that 32 bit is recommended ;/
[15:39] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  thats for people that have no clue what their hardware is..
[15:39] <dr_willis> ie: its idiot-proofing
[15:39] <auronandace> Ishitva: 32bit is only recommended because it works on both 32 and 64bit processors
[15:39] <Ishitva> dr_willis: okay !
[15:40] <Ishitva> auronandace , dr_willis  Then I am downloading the 12 version :)
[15:40] <arnotixe> jrib, thanks I read everything and - it works as long as someone logged in to the machine I'd like to control. But if only lightdm is "logged in"=running X on :0, then the connection fails...
[15:40] <jrib> arnotixe: which vnc server are you using?
[15:41] <dr_willis> arnotixe:  there some reason you need to see the 'current visible' desktop? thats just one way vnc can work.
[15:41] <nekthar_> My newly installed Ubuntu desktop can access the internet, but can not ping or be pinged by any other pc on the network. Can anyone offer me any assistance?
[15:42] <arnotixe> jrib, it's x11vnc.
[15:42] <Ishitva> dr_willis: what to do after making a bootable disk or pen drive ?
[15:42] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  backup your system.. and boot it..
[15:42] <x-warrior> I'm behing a firewall that just let me use, 443 and 80 ports. I created at my server a ssh server on port 443, so I can create a ssh -D (tunnel) to send all my connections. It is working fine on Firefox. But now, I want to use rdesktop via this tunnel (like a proxy), is it possible?
[15:42] <arnotixe> dr_willis, I just wanted to complete the thunderbird setup on one of the users. But I need that user to login first...
[15:42] <Juze> Ishitva: Boot from it?
[15:43] <Ishitva> juze okay I 'll do it as soon as I complete the download of version 12
[15:43] <dr_willis> arnotixe:  you can install tightvnc or other vnc servers, and connect to a 'hidden' desktop. and login as that user. no need for the more complex x11vnc
[15:43] <Juze> By the way, generic dumb question, but how does wget accept a list of URLs to mirror? -D parameter? I couldn't get it to work with *example.com/example/*
[15:43] <dr_willis> arnotixe:  or use ssh/x forwarding to run thunderbird to set it up
[15:43] <Devin_> Hey can anyone in here give me a hand with kernel compiling and update
[15:43] <jrib> arnotixe: did you check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers ?
[15:43] <Ishitva> dr_willis:  Please also guide how to backup my system , I am a beginner thats why I don't know many things .
[15:44] <arnotixe> dr_willis, that's a good idea; didn't cross my mind with -X to ssh although I did use it before.
[15:44] <dr_willis> !backup | Ishitva
[15:44] <jrib> arnotixe: if you want to stick with x11vnc, there's a section there about "connecting to your login screen"
[15:44] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  i image my whole windows hd. and keep it safe. ;)
[15:44] <OerHeks> !kernel | Devin_
[15:44] <arnotixe> dr_willis, I've only ever used x11vnc for reverse connect; I'll try tightvnc now
[15:45] <Juze> Ishitva: At most simple way, copy (ctrl + c) paste (ctrl + v) your most important files to an USB stick or external hard drive, or use Windows's own image tools
[15:45] <Ishitva> dr_willis: okay thanks !
[15:45] <Ishitva> Juze thanks !
[15:45] <dr_willis> arnotixe:  i just ssh in as the user, run vncserver, then connect with a vncclient.
[15:45] <Juze> If you want a 100% copy, then use the image tools
[15:45] <Devin_> ubottu: its for my assignment I need to
[15:46] <OerHeks> Devin_, i am not going to do your homework, all info you need is in the compile url.
[15:46] <ikonia> Devin_: if it's for a school project, talk to your teacher who set the assignemnt
[15:46] <Devin_> ikonia: its bonus so I am on the web
[15:46] <ikonia> Devin_: so speak to the teacher
[15:47] <Devin_> ikonia: I would but then I wouldn't get the bonus
[15:47] <Evdb> Hey guys
[15:47] <Evdb> Still in huge problems
[15:47] <Juze> Are we a spoonfeeding channel?
[15:47] <ikonia> Devin_: what do you wish to change in the kernel ?
[15:47] <ikonia> Juze: depends, you can have as much/little help as you want/need
[15:47] <Devin_> i already downloaded from kernel.org
[15:48] <ikonia> Devin_: not what I asked, what do you want to change in the kernel
[15:48] <Evdb> Is the grub boot menu the pink screen with the white highlighted options?
[15:48] <OerHeks> Devin_, you should reed the compile url, for putting your name in the header :-D
[15:48] <Juze> Yes
[15:48] <Devin_> ikonia: I don't need to change anything in the kernel other than, find an updated kernel, not the newest and change the kernel version string name
[15:48] <Juze> Evdb, yes it is
[15:49] <ikonia> Devin_: ok so you understand that changing the kernel version may break your distro ?
[15:49] <Evdb> Juze: I get that but when I choose Ubuntu blbla generic it gives kernel panic
[15:49] <Devin_> OerHeks: where do I find that
[15:49] <Evdb> juze: I'm soo close to getting ubunto work on my mbp
[15:49] <Devin_> ikonia: absolutly I am on a VM
[15:49] <Evdb> *ubuntu
[15:49] <ikonia> Devin_:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel
[15:49] <Juze> Evdb: Tried using another kernel?
[15:49] <Evdb> Juze: how should I? Totally new
[15:49] <ikonia> Devin_: all the info is in there
[15:50] <Juze> Evdb: Someone else can advise, a little busy over here
[15:50] <Devin_> ikonia: Ok I hadn't found this one yet let me read through it and see if it helps
[15:50] <Evdb> juze: hmm kay damn need this to work
[15:51] <ClientAlive> I'm having a problem using merge with unison on my ubuntu system. I've tried several things I can think of but get one error or another from unison. Can someone help me find where I'm going wrong with this? Here are pastes of two files involved: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224722/   AND   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224722/   These, I'm trying to use in connection wtih a profile called "local_sync_storage.prf"  That file contains only roots and
[15:51] <ClientAlive> paths and It did work fine on it's own (before I started trying to do all this other stuff).
[15:51] <Evdb> So @ all other people: After about 15 hours of trying I think I managed to install Ubutu on my MacBook Pro. The only problem is that I choose Ubuntu generic in grub and it gives kernel panic$
[15:52] <Evdb> Up until now i've only been able to boot in live, never booted in real installed OS
[15:52] <Devin_> ikonia: Ok I have read the Kernel/Compile page already
[15:52] <Devin_> ikonia: I am supposed to download from kernel.org
[15:53] <ikonia> Devin_: then what does it tell you to do
[15:53] <ClientAlive> sorry, this is the link to the second "default.prf" file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224724/
[15:54] <ClientAlive> The other file is "common"
[15:54] <Devin_> ikonia: It seems like in the tutorial it gives you an apt get command and then after you have a linux-source-<versionname> tar.bz2 then its extracted and you have a boot folder
[15:55] <_XMENDES> how i list programs in use?
[15:55] <Devin_> ikonia: But the tar.bz2 I downloaded and extracted from kernel.org does not have the boot folder
[15:55] <ikonia> Devin_: with respet, I think this is out of your current abilities grasp, and I'd not go for the extra credit
[15:55] <ring0> _XMENDES, top
[15:55] <Devin_> ikonia: So I can't find the config
[15:55] <_XMENDES> tks :)
[15:55] <ikonia> Devin_: that's not how it works, I think this is a little beyond your experience at this time
[15:56] <Ishitva> dr_willis: Juze : auronandace : Thanks for your help friends , I am going offline right now , I will come back whenever I need you guidance !
[15:56] <jrib> ClientAlive: you should say what the errors are
[15:56] <Devin_> ikonia: well let me ask you this, if you HAD to do a kernel update from kernel.org, how would you start after downloading your zipped package and extracting
[15:57] <dr_willis> !kernel > Devin_
[15:57] <Devin_> ikonia: Also I know that I am new to linux/unix/ubuntu but I am not new to troubleshooting and computers, and I am still enjoying myself and thats what matters so I appreciate your advice but I would like to continue
[15:57] <ikonia> Devin_: I'd say "you're trying ot get me to do your home work for you for extra credit" - that's what I'd say
[15:57] <dr_willis> start by reading the bots urls it gave you. ;)
[15:57] <jrib> Devin_: the page on the wiki has instructions for building a kernel from git.  I suggest you follow those, trying to understand all of it.  Then after you've done that, I think you will know what to do.  If not, you can come back and ask for more details
[15:57] <OerHeks> Devin_, i would read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile#C.29_Download_the_source_package but you don't want to, so you earn no points.
[15:57] <ikonia> Devin_: troubleshooting computers and troubleshooting linux are nothing like the same so have no relevence
[15:58] <ikonia> Devin_: compiling the kernel is an advacned topic - so I suggest you not attempt it at this time, more so as you're struggling to grasp the fundementals listed on the introduction page
[15:58] <Devin_> OerHeks: I don't have a debian folder though
[15:58] <ikonia> Devin_: because you go the kernel from kernel.org
[15:58] <dr_willis> err.. make one?
[15:58] <ClientAlive> jrib: ok, well the last thing I did was write a line at the top of the file: "local_sync_storage.prf" then try to run that profile throught the unison gui. The line I added was "include common"  The error I get is: garbled line, no =" Then I went back into that file and put an = in between so the line looks like: "include = common" and the error I get is: "File "local_sync_storage", line 32: `include' is not a valid option"
[15:58] <ikonia> whch is not what the instructions say
[15:58] <d3bug> hello ppl
[15:59] <janusian> Hi,
[15:59] <genii-around> !mainline
[15:59] <jrib> ClientAlive: you should not have an "=" in the include line
[15:59] <Devin_> ikonia: and let me just say im sorry, I don't want you to do my hw, I am just looking for some advice, I don't mean to be rude
[15:59] <ClientAlive> jrib: The reason is before I wrote that line in "local_sync_storage.prf" when there was no include at all) unison would say there is no merge set for the profile.
[15:59] <ikonia> Devin_: the advice is writen in that web page
[16:00] <ikonia> Devin_: it walks you through it, but it does assume you have a certain level of understanding
[16:00] <ClientAlive> jrib: I've tried both ways (the way without the = as well)
[16:00] <TiZ> Hi. I work for a law college, and we purchased a Planar PT3285PW touchscreen to use with an ubuntu-powered web kiosk. The problem is, the touchscreen works fine for a few minutes, but then stops sending mouse button events. If you plug in a regular mouse, clicks from it don't work either. What's going on here?
[16:00] <jrib> ClientAlive: how are you calling unison?
[16:00] <janusian> I'm experiencing a series of problems with running Ubuntu 12.04 on an Asus M5A78L-M motherboard. Most of them seem to be with respect to the on-board ATI Radeon HD3000 and Ubuntu's various drivers for it (both open source and proprietary).
[16:00] <Devin_> ikonia: I know I keep reading different pages, but nothing is an exact walkthrough of what I am trying to do, all of that is based off of you using the apt get command which gives you a boot folder and a config file, my downloaded folder from kernel.org has non of that
[16:00] <ClientAlive> through the gui right now but want to add cron jobs once I get all the kinks worked out.
[16:01] <ikonia> Devin_: because there is no walk through, it requires EXPERIENCE
[16:01] <jrib> ClientAlive: where do you specify the roots?
[16:01] <ClientAlive> in the "local_sync_storage.prf" file.
[16:01] <janusian> On first install, the system was working ok and, gave me the option to install "Additional Drivers". I went ahead and did that. After that point, I can't get video to playback properly.
[16:01] <ikonia> Devin_: the instructions don't tell you to download from kernel.org - so why are you ignoring the instructions and doing that ?
[16:01] <ikonia> Devin_: follow the instructions
[16:02] <ikonia> Devin_: however I suspect you will still struggle/fail because it requires a basic level of experience at least
[16:02] <ikonia> Devin_: that's not a put down, that's just a reality check
[16:02] <janusian> The screen flickers, whenever I move between desktops and generally, I am getting a crap graphics experience..
[16:02] <jrib> honestly, it only understands reading and thinking about what is read :x
[16:02] <janusian> I've looked online, but I can't seem to find any answers for reverting my ubuntu back to its initial state
[16:02] <Marezz> Howdy folks
[16:02] <Devin_> ikonia: No, I know its not the way it instructs me to, my assignment requiresme to
[16:02] <janusian> (I tried purging the fglrx)
[16:03] <ikonia> Devin_: then you can't get it done.
[16:03] <BluesKaj> janusian, did you reboot after installing the drivers ? i have to ask
[16:03] <ikonia> Devin_: you don't get extra credit.
[16:03] <Marezz> whats the name of the default 10.04 LTS theme?
[16:03] <ikonia> Devin_: good effort for trying, but it's a little out of reach at this time
[16:03] <janusian> BluesKaj, yep, I've been trying out various drivers/"solutions"
[16:03] <Marezz> booted 10.04 lts yesterday, man how it looked great
[16:03] <QuantumQrack> Can somebody help me please:  I am trying to get ubuntu desktop 64bit to boot off a usb stick.  When it tries to load, it goes through the loading process then eventually I get a message "rebooting in 30 seconds"  and it reboots...and never really loads.  Just reboots, tries to load, get the rebooting message, the reboot, load, etc etc.  Will this not load on an overclocked CPU?
[16:03] <ClientAlive> jrib: the "default.prf" file contains only one line "include = common" and I've tried that withouth the = too. The common file has just a list of preferences set (stuff like merge and mergebatch and so on
[16:03] <Devin_> Ok I am going to follow jribs advice and see if I can read the tutuorial about upgrading from git and see if that helps at all
[16:04] <jrib> Devin_: ignore the assignment for now and do it the way the page says... so you can learn something :)  Then it will be easier
[16:04] <Devin_> jrib: thanks
[16:04] <jrib> ClientAlive: but you need to specify what paths you want unison to operate on
[16:04] <Marezz> whats the name of the default 10.04 LTS theme?
[16:04] <janusian> Ubuntu just doesn't seem to like any of the graphics cards I have. I used to use an nvidia card, but that wasn't compatible with Compiz (so didn't do anything fancy) and now this ati is compatible, but it retards my whole system as a result.
[16:04] <edgy> Hi, # ls -ld /var/
[16:04] <edgy> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Sep 22 06:42 /var/, so /var is modified 2 days ago, what does this mean?
[16:04] <ClientAlive> jrib: in the "local_sync_storage.prf" file is where roots are specified
[16:05] <Evdb> After about 15 hours of trying I think I managed to install Ubutu on my MacBook Pro. The only problem is that I choose Ubuntu generic in grub and it gives kernel panic
[16:05] <jrib> ClientAlive: I don't think you've pastebinned that (your original message had 2 identical URLs)
[16:05] <BluesKaj> janusian, some ppl have had success with the proprietary divers for ATI/Radeon from their website , but I'm not sure if that would apply in your case
[16:05] <jrib> ClientAlive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224722/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224724/ is what I see
[16:05] <ClientAlive> jrib: I can pm that link to you if it's ok
[16:05] <jrib> ClientAlive: put it here in case others are following
[16:05] <ClientAlive> pers stuff in there (sort of)
[16:05] <jrib> ClientAlive: oh.  ok.
[16:06] <Marezz> Did AMD drop support for HD 4650?
[16:06] <ClientAlive> well..
[16:06] <ClientAlive> thx
[16:06] <Juze> Generic wget question: Does wget support URL wildcards and how?
[16:06] <janusian> BluesKaj, I am currently running the proprietary drivers ... They have corrected the problem with video (for VLC anyway, totem doesn't work at all).
[16:06] <BluesKaj> janusian, you should need to use compiz on the newer ubuntu OSs
[16:06] <deadmund> Marezz: What do you mean?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> should  not rather , janusian
[16:07] <janusian> The problem now is the tearing between desktop switching and the generally poor animation of window drags and such
[16:07] <Marezz> deadmund: I think I read somewhere that they wont release drivers for it anymore
[16:07] <deadmund> Marezz: Oh!  I think you mean they won't update the driver for it anymore.
[16:07] <janusian> BluesKaj, I was under the assumption that they would be robust enough to try out - with my newer system (my old system was under powered and quite antiquated).
[16:07] <brandt> downloaded update of tor pkg and not sure if it updated on it's own
[16:08] <janusian> I really wouldn't have messed about with Compiz, if I had known this before hand... a lesson in the learning, really.
[16:08] <cmcintosh> is there a way to connect multiple monitors / keyboards to a single desktop and have each running its own session
[16:09] <cmcintosh> so like each has its own xwindows display
[16:09] <BluesKaj> janusian, yes , VLC  ftw , definitely , but isn't compiz a bit long in the tooth for newer systems ?
[16:09] <janusian> BluesKaj, dunno, I just wanted to use the "fancy" desktop cube and rotate functions
[16:09] <janusian> as a result I ended up messing up my system
[16:10] <brandt> need cmnd line for download update install
[16:10] <janusian> I'm now wondering how to get rid of compiz and get back to my initial state.
[16:10] <BluesKaj> janusian, doesn't unity provide that without compiz? , KDE does
[16:10] <OpenIndianaVbox> BluesKaj: unity uses compiz by default
[16:11] <zykotick9> OpenIndianaVbox: actually, unity is a compiz plugin
[16:11] <Evdb> bekks: you here?
[16:11] <janusian> BluesKaj, I was under the impression that compiz was necessary to do such things.
[16:11] <hay> after doing "apt-get install slapd ldap-utils" I get ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Local error (-2) when trying to do ldapadd... any ideas why? thx
[16:12] <AaronCampbell> Is there a users/groups management gui for Unity?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> OpenIndianaVbox, zykotick9 , ok thanks , didn't kow that
[16:12] <janusian> how would I disable compiz?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> know
[16:12] <OpenIndianaVbox> !unity
[16:12] <BluesKaj> janusian, looks like you need compiz
[16:12] <janusian> (btw, I'm no expert in Ubuntu, just a casual user)
[16:12] <bartje> hi guys, anyone else having issues with nautilus-share? I have...
[16:13] <janusian> BluesKaj, is there any way to "restore" the system to an earlier point (ie a point earlier than my compiz muck-up_
[16:13] <janusian> )
[16:13] <janusian> ?
[16:14] <genii-around> TiZ: Might want to disable autosuspend of the USB in sysctl.conf
[16:14] <OpenIndianaVbox> zykotick9: not quite true, you forget about unity2d too
[16:14] <bazhang> janusian, a la system restore?
[16:14] <Reaga> will ubuntu have ads?
[16:14] <ikonia> no
[16:15] <ikonia> it's an operating system
[16:15] <bazhang> Reaga, NO
[16:15] <janusian> bazhang, something like that.
[16:15] <ikonia> it does not have adverts
[16:15] <Reaga> bazhang: yes it will, i read an article saying exactly that
[16:15] <hellslinger> Reaga: stop trolling
[16:15] <BluesKaj> janusian, you probly need to just change the graphics drivers , altho any other app changes will remain
[16:16] <janusian> BluesKaj, how would I return the graphics driver to the original one?
[16:16] <chuckf> Reaga: it will have links to amazon items for sale based on searches you perform using the dash component
[16:16] <OpenIndianaVbox> Reaga: don't believe the hype, its just a lens that lets you search amazon
[16:16] <zykotick9> OpenIndianaVbox: unity2d is a dead project 12.10 won't have it...
[16:17] <Reaga> IMO, amazon is a company and no company should have business involved with ubuntu. its against linux philosophy
[16:17] <bazhang> Reaga, thats enough.
[16:17] <OpenIndianaVbox> zykotick9: as of 12.10 yes, but to say unity is just a compiz plugin is a gross oversimplification
[16:18] <ikonia> Reaga: stop talking nonsense now
[16:18] <BluesKaj> bazhang, could you help janusian , I have to go for a bit ...BBL
[16:18] <ikonia> Reaga: this channel is for ubuntu suppor t- stick to that topic please.
[16:18] <zykotick9> OpenIndianaVbox: that's what Unity is... i don't understand you issue - but i won't comment further.
[16:18] <hellslinger> Reaga is trolling
[16:18] <genii-around> Reaga: Feel free to discuss the merits or not of businesses being involved with linux in #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps, but not here in the support channel.
[16:18] <janusian> BluesKaj, k and thanks for the response :)
[16:18] <OpenIndianaVbox> zykotick9: if it were mearly a plugin then it wouldn't depend on gnome3
[16:18] <TiZ> genii-around: Is there anyway I can do that on boot?
[16:20] <TiZ> Or just, like, turn it off from inside the running system?
[16:25] <d3bug> can anyone tell me how to close a query window in irssi?
[16:26] <ikonia> d3bug:  /close
[16:26] <cprofitt> yes type /unquery
[16:26] <ikonia> d3bug: or /window close
[16:26] <d3bug> thank you
[16:26] <anxel> hello
[16:27] <anxel> alguien me puede ayudar?
[16:27] <anxel> tengo un juego y no me lee la libreria fmod
[16:27] <zykotick9> d3bug: i like /wc myself shorter ;)
[16:28] <anxel> someone helps me to configure fmod in zandronum?
[16:29] <ianp> how do i go about finding a dependency that doesn't exist? can't find it using apt-cache search , google, etc... package is 'tanukiwrapper' and a dependency of apache's activemq...
[16:30] <ximm1> update grub does only create a non-functional ubuntu entry on my wubi installation. I guess this is due to a missing /etc/grub.d/10_lupin . Do you know where to find that file or what else could cause my problem?
[16:30] <designbybeck> I have a install i did Ubuntu Restricted Files, I assume that comes with Java IIRC? And most sites work. However some sites say I don't have Java install and to go to java.com to get it. What does everyone else do in this case?
[16:31] <OpenIndianaVbox> !java | designbybeck
[16:32] <designbybeck> Thank you OpenIndianaVbox.... pros/cons to either JDK or SDK?
[16:32] <xangua> designbybeck: resctricted extras install openjdk, i have no isues with it on any site
[16:32] <designbybeck> xangua:  I tried http://edubuntu.com 's weblive trial
[16:32] <designbybeck> and it didn't like my java I guess
[16:35] <Evdb> Is tere anyone specific willing to help me, it's driving me crzay but time's running short :s I've posted here several times and got an answer from various people, which helped me a lot, I hope I can get just that last push to get it to work...
[16:36] <bazhang> Evdb, ask the channel and see
[16:36] <Evdb> That's what I've done about 10 times :(
[16:37] <designbybeck> ask one more time
[16:39] <bubuntoid> achtung condition!! ubuntu network gives -5 error
[16:40] <Evdb> I have been trying to get Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro for about 15 hours total now. I think I managed to install Ubuntu. When I open Ubuntu in rEFIt, i get a pink window with grey options. I choose Ubuntu but the I get a Kernel panic (timer or something). I really hope there's an easy fix, I'm exhausted and getting a bit crazy too...
[16:41] <gordonjcp> Evdb: sounds like you've not installed ubuntu properly
[16:41] <Evdb> gordonjcp: Do you use a Mac?
[16:41] <gordonjcp> yes
[16:41] <gordonjcp> Evdb: I'm on a Late 2007 MacBook right now
[16:42] <designbybeck> Evdb: yes what gordonjcp said. When you were in refit did you make sure it installed to the correct partition?
[16:42] <Evdb> gordonjcp: ah are you willing to try and help me?
[16:42] <gordonjcp> Evdb: I could try
[16:42] <Evdb> I didn't install it via refit, I opened live USB in refit and installed ubuntu on the free space I made available
[16:42] <gordonjcp> Evdb: you need to create an EFI bootable USB stick
[16:42] <Evdb> I have a bootable USB stick
[16:42] <gordonjcp> at least, that's what worked for me
[16:42] <Evdb> This loads ubuntu
[16:42] <Evdb> I can try or install
[16:43] <bubuntoid> -5 - No address associated with hostname?
[16:43] <Evdb> I need to check 'noapic' when running live version
[16:43] <Evdb> I installed to the free space + created 1 gb swap
[16:43] <designbybeck> Evdb: I've only done an install on a Mac once with ubuntu, The mac actually had XP on it too... but this is what worked for me: http://lifehacker.com/5934942/how-to-dual-boot-linux-on-your-mac-and-take-back-your-powerhouse-apple-hardware
[16:43] <Calinou> installing another OS in a mac *silently laughs*
[16:43] <Evdb> bootloader is on my main drive dev/sda/
[16:44] <gordonjcp> Evdb: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?95640-BOOTING-UBUNTU-with-USB-on-MAC
[16:44] <Evdb> designbybeck: I read that one, will try again I guess
[16:44] <Evdb> thanks gordonjcp, I'll create a new bootUSB
[16:44] <shaneo> hey guys having issues opening synaptic keep getting
[16:44] <shaneo> E: The value 'stable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
[16:44] <shaneo> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[16:44] <Evdb> I'll combine your two forces and hopefully it'll work
[16:45] <AaronCampbell> I'm having problems with Skype audio (it's SUPER distorted with massive static), and several places say it's an issue with Skype and Pulseaudio.  That removing Pulseaudio might fix it.
[16:45] <afflicto> test
[16:45] <Evdb> One other problem: I ran boot repair and now primary refit is efi/ubuntu efi something
[16:45] <bubuntoid> ubuntu servers died?
[16:45]  * afflicto just tried to see if it worked and it did
[16:45]  * jiltdil loves irssi
[16:45] <Calinou> poor irrsi
[16:45] <dr_willis> shaneo:  youve not been mixxing things from debian into ubuntu have you?
[16:46] <AaronCampbell> However, as I tried to remove it synaptic says the package "ubuntu-desktop" would be removed as well.  Is that going to be an issue?  Or is that like a place-holder package?
[16:46] <shaneo> dr_willis not that I know of
[16:46] <Evdb> gordonjcp: my refit primary chooses an ubuntu efi that appeared after running boot reapir in live version
[16:46]  * jiltdil loves freenode.net
[16:46] <shaneo> dr_willis: how would I check?
[16:46] <bazhang> !ot | jiltdil
[16:47] <jiltdil> bazhang, Sorry
[16:47] <dr_willis> shaneo:  i think 'stable' is a debian release name. where ubuntu used names like 'oneric' 'percice' and 'quantal' or whatver they are. ;)
[16:47] <afflicto> Hey all. using gnome shell -- I installed the CPU/mem/net monitor extension as well as lm-sensors but my CPU temp shows -270 celcius which is probably not correct xD
[16:48] <satyam> electric
[16:48] <zykotick9> dr_willis: while you are correct "stable" is a possible debian name, it SHOULDN'T be used </OT>
[16:48] <shaneo> dr_willis: hmm thats odd because i never used debian on my pc before...i installed get_deb the other day would that be it
[16:48] <satyam> anybody know elctric vlsi
[16:48] <dr_willis> shaneo:  could be itsss somehow set for debian and not ubuntu. would be my guess
[16:49] <bazhang> satyam, connection to ubuntu support?
[16:49] <shaneo> dr_willis: should I check sources.list?
[16:49] <dr_willis> shaneo:  for starters yes. and the other apt config giles
[16:49] <dr_willis> files
[16:49] <satyam> yes
[16:49] <bazhang> satyam, which is what?
[16:50] <satyam> quit
[16:50] <satyam> u know elctric vlsi
[16:50] <bubuntoid> -5 - No address associated with hostname? repository died?
[16:50] <bazhang> satyam, did you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:50] <satyam> no
[16:51] <OpenIndianaVbox> satyam: to get help you need to explain your problem
[16:51] <bazhang> satyam, then thats offtopic here
[16:51] <dr_willis> bubuntoid:  you may want to clarify your issue
[16:51] <bubuntoid> apt-get gives this error messing with repositories
[16:51] <satyam>  i have an problem in electric vlsi
[16:52] <bazhang> satyam, this is ubuntu support
[16:52] <satyam> ok
[16:52] <satyam> quit
[16:52] <OpenIndianaVbox> satyam: if you are not using ubuntu then you shouldn't be asking here
[16:52] <OpenIndianaVbox> missed him
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> bubuntoid: stil having the issue?
[16:53] <bubuntoid> no
[16:53] <bubuntoid> what was that?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> bubuntoid: great :)
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> 17:50 < bubuntoid> -5 - No address associated with hostname? repository died?
[16:54] <reuf> hello any software for voice changing? modification?
[16:54] <bubuntoid> I need to wait for ~10 minutes before ubuntu will be able to use internet?
[16:54] <Calinou> reuf: audacity
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> bubuntoid: why is that?
[16:58] <bubuntoid> I have no idea why I was getting such idiotic errors
[16:58] <ash_> hello, i wonder if somebody cans how me how to create a channel on xchat and invite my friend in?
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> ash_  type /join #blah - it creates a channel - then invite your friend
[17:01] <Ragtime^> Are there any channels in freenode for Amazon Web Services?
[17:02] <Guest74988> I've installed Ubuntu 12.04 and I try to install the additional drivers for my ATI card but Ubuntu will not install them.. and comes back with that I should check the  /var/log/jockey.log
[17:02] <Guest74988> How can I install the ATI drivers the right way?
[17:02] <bazhang> Ragtime^, #aws
[17:02] <Ragtime^> Thank you.
[17:02] <crizis> Guest74988: are you trying to install the 'updated' version of the driver?
[17:03] <dr_willis> you did look at the log? it may explain the problem Guest74988
[17:03] <Guest74988> and does Ubuntu have a default IRC client? if so.. which program might that be?
[17:03] <crizis> dr_willis, nah, it's broken for fgrlx-updates package
[17:03] <Guest74988> crizis: post release
[17:03] <dr_willis> the default im client in ubuntu can do irc
[17:04] <Guest74988> dr_willis: I did but I cannot understand the issues
[17:04] <crizis> Guest74988: yeah exactly that one. it won't work. you can install that version from command line though: "sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates"
[17:04] <dr_willis> then theres freendodes web chat
[17:04] <crizis> Guest74988: non-post-update version does install with additional drivers, but if you're not afraid of that one apt line, install newer ones ^^
[17:04] <Guest74988> crizis: oke and do I need special PPA's for that too?
[17:04] <crizis> nope
[17:05] <crizis> stable driver is catalyst 11.8, fglrx-updates ("post release") is catalyst version 12.4
[17:05] <Guest74988> crizis: oke thanx I will try!
[17:06] <crizis> .. then just boot after it's done
[17:06] <Guest74988> crizis: fglrx-updates is already the newest version
[17:06] <Guest74988> oke I need to go for a sec.. am back in a few mins
[17:06] <crizis> ok, well, should work then after boot. maybe additional drivers managed to install it anyway
[17:10] <genii-around> TiZ: Apologies on lag. It seems the module responsible (usbcore) is now compiled into the kernel and it nis not possible to reload it on the fly with new parameters. You can however still set it not to suspend by adding module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend = -1   into the /etc/sysctl.conf where it will take effect next boot.
[17:11] <rabbi1> i have installed ibus, and added language support required and Keyboard input method is selected to 'ibus' in language Support, but still i am unable to select the required language in ibus preferences.... any suggestion ?
[17:12] <OpenIndianaVbox> win 5
[17:12] <OpenIndianaVbox> sorry
[17:13] <Snappo> Hello, I just installed the latest daily build of Ubuntu 12.10, and I cant't boot, I get an error that says "Unrecognized file system" and a grub prompt
[17:13] <Snappo> currently running a live session from USB
[17:14] <crizis> Snappo, #ubuntu+1
[17:14] <Snappo> ok
[17:14]  * dr_willis takes a note to not update his 12.10 box today.... ;)
[17:15] <BluesKaj> Snappo, grub rescue prompt ?
[17:15] <TiZ> genii-around: I added usbcore.autosuspend=0 to the boot command line, and... it seemed to work for a bit, but when my boss really dug his finger into the touchscreen, it stopped working. Darn my tiny hands and his giant hands.
[17:17] <rabbi1> i have installed ibus, and added language support required and Keyboard input method is selected to 'ibus' in language Support, but still i am unable to select the required language in ibus preferences.... any suggestion ?
[17:17] <Marezz> Is it a good idea to install 12.04 on single core athlon64 @1.8GHz, 2GB ram?
[17:18] <bazhang> rabbi1, install them in language support
[17:18] <BluesKaj> Snappo, a grub rescue prompt or an actual grub menu ?
[17:18] <graciano> hi
[17:19] <rabbi1> bazhang: installed
[17:19] <BluesKaj> Marezz, shouldn't be a problem
[17:19] <OpenIndianaVbox> win 2
[17:19] <rabbi1> not showing in select input methods :( to add
[17:19] <bazhang> rabbi1, then restart ibus
[17:19] <rabbi1> bazhang: restart is also don
[17:20] <bazhang> rabbi1, what about ibus-setup
[17:20] <rabbi1> i infact restarted the system
[17:20] <rabbi1> bazhang: under ibus-setup -> input method -> select input method is not showing the language installed :(
[17:21] <bubuntoid> are there xsd schemes available for ubuntu?
[17:21] <bazhang> rabbi1, restart ibus, not the system
[17:22] <rabbi1> bazhang: installed the language, selected the keyboard input method to ibus, then restarted ibus, din't work, so restarted the whole system, just in case. but still cant find the language installed  \
[17:23] <bazhang> rabbi1, thats odd. it works fine here
[17:23] <rabbi1> bazhang: is there anything to install with ibus any extra plugin or something ?
[17:23] <rabbi1> or am i missing some libraries ?
[17:23] <RichardRaseley> What is the recommended way to make my iptables rules persistant on 12.04?
[17:24] <bazhang> rabbi1, not that I know of
[17:26] <rabbi1> bazhang: im-config is required ?
[17:26] <kimdw> hi all
[17:26] <kimdw> Hi all. I can not delete the characters and move the cursor with the arrows in the shell of gvim (guipty). You can help me please? I tired to set "t_ku,t_kd,t_kr,t_kl" but to no avail.
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> RichardRaseley: here is one way: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-save-iptables-rules-or-settings/
[17:32] <bubuntoid> are there some XML and XHTML schemes available for ubuntu?
[17:32] <RichardRaseley> ActionParsnip: Thank you
[17:33] <jrib> RichardRaseley: you can just use the iptables-perisistent package. See ubottu's !iptables factoid for alternatives that only load rules when an iface is activated
[17:34] <RichardRaseley> jrib: Thank you
[17:35] <RichardRaseley> jrib: What is a "factoid"?
[17:36] <OpenIndianaVbox> !brain | RichardRaseley
[17:36] <RichardRaseley> !iptables
[17:37] <RichardRaseley> Cool, thanks
[17:39] <rbrooks> is there way to opt out of amazon search install on ubuntu?
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> rbrooks, you running 12.10
[17:40] <OpenIndianaVbox> rbrooks: uninstall the lens
[17:40] <rbrooks> no lens gotcha, thanks
[17:41] <rbrooks> i hope they make lots ov money on this
[17:42] <sewuuuuu> yo nigraz
[17:42] <sewuuuuu> anyone get their iphone5 to work with ubuntu
[17:42] <sewuuuuu> or have any suggestions on drivers to install?
[17:42] <sewuuuuu> !iphone
[17:42] <rbrooks> work how?
[17:42] <bazhang> !language | sewuuuuu
[17:43] <sewuuuuu> every minute it so my 12.04 install keeps redetecting the device
[17:43] <sewuuuuu> or so*
[17:43] <rbrooks> thats awesome
[17:43] <rbrooks> dnk that was possible
[17:43] <sewuuuuu> if you like seeing the ugly dock
[17:43] <sewuuuuu> i do not
[17:43] <sewuuuuu> however
[17:43] <rbrooks> iphone 5  badass gratz
[17:44] <sewuuuuu> it's a nice device
[17:44] <rbrooks> ^
[17:44] <rbrooks> looks like it even good battery life
[17:46] <RichardRaseley> I am having trouble opening up an inbound TCP port on Ubuntu Server 12.04. I ran a sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport amqp -j ACCEPT
[17:46] <RichardRaseley> But when I try to: telnet <ip> 5672 I get a connection refused...
[17:46] <AlexPortable> Why the fuck is Cannonical putting ads in ubuntu?
[17:47] <RichardRaseley> AlexPortable: They aren't.
[17:47] <OpenIndianaVbox> !language | AlexPortable
[17:47] <bazhang> !language > AlexPortable
[17:47] <AlexPortable> They are
[17:47] <bazhang> AlexPortable, stop it
[17:47] <RichardRaseley> AlexPortable: No, they aren't.
[17:47] <OpenIndianaVbox> AlexPortable: don't believe the hype, its just a lens that lets you search amazon
[17:47] <AlexPortable> http://tweakers.net/nieuws/84533/canonicals-plan-voor-amazon-reclame-in-ubuntu-1210-wekt-woede-op.html
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: not seen them on my laptop
[17:48] <bazhang> !ot | AlexPortable
[17:48] <RichardRaseley> AlexPortable: They aren't advertisements, they are search results from Amazon.
[17:48] <AlexPortable> will the lense use data when not being used?
[17:48] <bazhang> AlexPortable, please stop
[17:48] <AlexPortable> stop with what?
[17:49] <AlexPortable> "the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions"
[17:49] <RichardRaseley> Is anything beyond just a "sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport amqp -j ACCEPT" needed to open up inbound tcp 5672?
[17:49] <AlexPortable> I think this is ubuntu related
[17:49] <AlexPortable> I literally have no idea how the data usage is with lenses
[17:49] <AlexPortable> This doesn't matters that much on my desktop. But for my desktop it does
[17:49] <OpenIndianaVbox> AlexPortable: no, you are discussing a feature in 12.10, really you should be in #ubuntu+1
[17:53] <sewuuuuu> hrmmm
[17:53] <sewuuuuu> if it's not an ad
[17:53] <sewuuuuu> what is it
[17:53] <OpenIndianaVbox> sewuuuuu: seriously, don't bother
[17:53] <sewuuuuu> you guys are sackriding too hard
[17:53] <sewuuuuu> I agree with AlexPortable
[17:54] <sewuuuuu> not that classy
[17:54] <sewuuuuu> tbh
[17:54] <OpenIndianaVbox> sewuuuuu: uninstall the lens then
[17:54] <sewuuuuu> Okay
[17:56] <devin_> hey I am working on a project where I need to download source code linux from kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/ and I need to compile it
[17:56] <OpenIndianaVbox> devin_: ask in ##linux
[17:57] <devin_> OpenIndianaVbox: I am using ubuntu though
[17:57] <bekks> devin_: Then do it, in first instance.
[17:57] <bekks> Where's the specific problem?
[17:57] <bazhang> devin_, thats not an ubuntu support issue
[17:58] <devin_> bazhang: well my specific question is how do I edit the name from uname -r from generic to something else
[17:58] <Guest51195> Any idea how to fix streaming through vlc problem? Error: lua demux error: Couldn't extract youtube video URL, please check for updates to this script t
[17:58] <bazhang> devin_, you got plenty of answers the last time you were here. read the links given to you
[17:58] <devin_> bazhang bekks OpenIndianaVbox Is that in the configs????
[17:58] <bekks> devin_: No.
[17:58] <devin_> bazhang: I know I did, I found a better link I think
[17:59] <usr13> Guest51195: You're not grying to stream something you don't have, are you?
[17:59] <usr13> Guest51195: Download it first.
[17:59] <Guest51195> usr13, I won't the fix not work around.
[18:00] <Guest51195> usr13, want *
[18:00] <usr13> Guest51195: Oh, I didn't know vlc would do that.
[18:00] <intrader> I don't understand why the su command fails in the term application. I am providing my usual password and I get 'su: Authentication failure. I am running ubuntu 12.04
[18:00] <Guest51195> usr13, It does. Nice thing for watching fullscreen youtube on low ends like netbooks.
[18:00] <OpenIndianaVbox> intrader: root is disabled by default, you are meant to use sudo
[18:01] <devin_> bekks bazhang OpenIndianaVbox This is the link I used, it looks about right
[18:01] <usr13> Guest51195: Try and play it first.  Does it play?
[18:01] <xine> intrader: sudo -i  gives you a root shell after typing in your user password
[18:02] <bekks> devin_: There is no link. And even if it looks right - unless you have a specific ubuntu issue, we cant help you, I'm afraid.
[18:02] <devin_> bekks bazhang OpenIndianaVbox : So all i need to do now or before I compile is figure how to change the string generic in uname -r
[18:02] <Guest51195> Yes. It does. Nothing wrong with the link. Mplayer also fails at streaming. They were working fine few days ago.
[18:02] <bekks> devin_: You cant change the output of uname -t
[18:02] <intrader> OpenIndianaVbox, I am trying to install xampp - the instructions for installation say that I need to login as root. I will try sudo -i. Thanks xine
[18:02] <bekks> devin_: You cant change the output of uname -r :)
[18:03] <devin_> bekks: http://linuxtweaking.blogspot.com/2011/02/how-to-compile-kernel-from-kernelorg-in.html
[18:03] <bekks> devin_: And it isnt needed to change it to compile the kernel sources.
[18:03] <bazhang> intrader, xampp is not supported use lamp
[18:03] <bazhang> !xampp > intrader
[18:03] <bekks> AND it is described somewhere in help.ubuntu.com on how to compile vanilla sources for Ubuntu.
[18:03] <devin_> bekks: No I know I don't have to inorder to compile, It is possible, I have seen the outputs as examples on my assignment, but I think it is in the configs
[18:04] <bekks> bazhang: Am I right that he's been given those links already?
[18:04] <usr13> Guest51195: Run vlc from terminal to see if you get any clues.
[18:04] <bazhang> bekks, yes
[18:04] <bazhang> devin_, read all the links.
[18:04] <Guest51195> usr13, posted the error in my first message already.
[18:04] <bekks> devin_: Whatever you think - the output of uname -r is in no config in the kernel.org sources.
[18:04] <bekks> bazhang: thanks
[18:04] <intrader> what is the difference between lamp and xampp?
[18:05] <OpenIndianaVbox> !lamp | intrader
[18:05] <devin_> bazhang: I did, but this is an advanced project and there is no simple walkthrough for it
[18:05] <zykotick9> !xampp | intrader
[18:05] <bekks> devin_: You didnt - then you'd know that you dont have to mess around uname -r at all.
[18:05] <usr13> Guest51195: Ok forget it, (I just got here).  Take it up with youtube or vlc, (it's not a Ubuntu issue more-than-likely).
[18:05] <xangua> !mainline | devin_ get your new kernel, be happy :)
[18:06] <xangua> devin_: on your own risk of course*
[18:06] <bazhang> xangua, thats not what he's asking for
[18:06] <sameerynho> does ubuntu one offer any ssh or rsync support
[18:06] <devin_> bekks: I know I don't have to in order for functionality. But I have to because thats what my assignment is
[18:06] <bazhang> sameerynho, try asking in #ubuntuone
[18:06] <sameerynho> bazhang: thanks
[18:07] <Guest51195> usr13, I told you that mplayer also fails so I am not sure does it any more or likely vlc issue.
[18:07] <xangua> bazhang: he only wants to install a recent kernel or to cheat his teacher by 'changing the output of uname -r', does not¿
[18:07] <intrader> Thanks for your help and info!
[18:07] <bazhang> xangua, not quite, no
[18:08] <bekks> devin_: However - the output of uname -r is not configurable, whatever your assignment is. And all the rest is described in the links you have been given, as I was told.
[18:09] <devin_> xangua: I already did that, I am not doing this for functionality, I am doing this for a project. I did the main line update as part I now part II I need to you linux source code from kernel.org and comile it myself and change the output of uname - r from 3.2.2 -generic to 3.2.2-DGL
[18:09] <devin_> bekks: I know I am not asking about compiling anymore, I need to figure out how to modify to change my kernel name
[18:10] <bekks> devin_: Which is not an Ubuntu issue.
[18:10] <devin_> bekks: Ok, so you don't know
[18:10] <bekks> devin_: I do know, but it isnt an Ubuntu issue.
[18:10] <OpenIndianaVbox> devin_: this channel is just for support issues
[18:10] <devin_> bekks: LOL SO JUST TELL ME
[18:11] <usr13> devin_: They did.  Try ##linux
[18:11] <grkblood> sometime recently, i'm assuming after an update, the vga port on my laptop stopped working. now when I plug in my external monitor the screen displays the laptop screen for quick flash and then goes back to black. anyone know what this problem is from?
[18:12] <usr13> grkblood: Ctrl-Alt-F5  #And what do you see?
[18:13] <grkblood> usr13, i forgot to add that when I plug in my external monitor my laptop screen also goes black
[18:13] <usr13> grkblood: If you get a console login, it is more-than-likely a video driver issue, in which case you can: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[18:13] <grkblood> usr13, the command line prompt
[18:14] <usr13> grkblood: Login and issue above command.
[18:14] <usr13> grkblood: sudo
[18:14] <OpenIndianaVbox> usr13: you're assuming he has a xorg.conf
[18:14] <isopov> Hello, I have the following in my dmesg - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225032/ - does this mean that ACPI is not used and thats why lm-sensors don't work?
[18:14] <grkblood> im using xrandr
[18:15] <usr13> OpenIndianaVbox: Stating the obvious is often helpful, (but not always).
[18:16] <user82> hi. i have sort of a problem. i need to use the boot parameters "acpi=off" and "noapic" to get my gpu running properly but then my sound card is not detected(which 100% works with this exact ubuntu version). does anyone have an idea?
[18:17] <OpenIndianaVbox> user82: knowing the gpu would help
[18:17] <grkblood> usr13, that did not fix the problem
[18:17] <usr13> grkblood: Did you get an error?
[18:17] <usr13> grkblood: Did you reboot?
[18:18] <BluesKaj> user82, maybe you just need to reload the soundcard module/driver , which card is it ?
[18:18] <usr13> grkblood: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak  #Is this the command you used?
[18:18] <grkblood> usa_today, can I not just to ctrl-alt-backspace?
[18:18] <grkblood> do*
[18:19] <usr13> grkblood: Crtl-Alt-Backspace does nothing.
[18:19] <grkblood> k, ill reboot
[18:20] <usr13> grkblood: From the console, Ctrl-Alt-Delete  #Will reboot.
[18:20] <BluesKaj> user82, run aplay -l  to find the soundcard name
[18:20] <user82> OpenIndianaVbox: Nvidia gt 610
[18:20] <bekks> usr13: thats wrong.
[18:21] <OpenIndianaVbox> user82: sounds new, is this an optimus system?
[18:21] <bekks> That will kill the xserver, but will not reboot.
[18:21] <user82> OpenIndianaVbox: let me check. BluesKaj the soundcard is not detected in aplay
[18:21] <usr13> bekks: What is wrong?
[18:21] <bekks> usr13: ctrl alt backspace kill X, but does not reboot.
[18:22] <zykotick9> bekks: fyi c+a+backspace hasn't worked by default for a while now...
[18:22] <ubunnytu> Hi all, for starters, thanks to everyone and the world for giving us linux. I've occasionally used ubuntu for about a decade now and it's come a long way. Here's my question: is it possible to customize the guest account, e.g. change UI text size, indicator applets and program icons is unity?
[18:22] <usr13> bekks: That is not what I said.  I said that if he was in console mode, (tty6), Ctrl-Alt-Delete would reboot.
[18:22] <genii-around> !nozap
[18:22] <genii-around> Hm
[18:22] <bekks> usr13: Then I just misread you, I apologize.
[18:23] <bekks> zykotick9: I know :)
[18:23] <zykotick9> genii-around: !dontzap seems to have been removed both factoid and wiki page
[18:23] <usr13> bekks: And if you scroll up, I told him the exact thing you just .... ok.  NP
[18:23] <zykotick9> bekks: ok, sorry.
[18:23] <JoelAlejandro> Hello there! Anyone knows a good Database Modelor for Ubuntu?
[18:23] <JoelAlejandro> Modeler*
[18:23] <user82> BluesKaj: i cannot find it with lshw either
[18:23] <JoelAlejandro> If possible, something that is Database-abstracted
[18:23] <genii-around> zykotick9: Hm.
[18:23] <user82> it is onboard
[18:24] <win7usr> hey if i create an live usb ubuntu and run will it detects my wirless
[18:24] <user82> OpenIndianaVbox: no optimus i think
[18:24] <grkblood> usr13, that fixed it but broke conky
[18:25] <user82> but i have an idea..i now got the proprietary driver installed maybe i can remove the kernel options again
[18:25] <cristian__> evening guys
[18:25] <usr13> grkblood: Ok, now you can look into "Hardware Drivers"
[18:25] <cristian__> i've got a problem with DPKG divert can someone help me ?
[18:25] <bekks> cristian__: Whats a dpkg divert?
[18:26] <grkblood> k
[18:26] <grkblood> thanks
[18:26] <usr13> grkblood: NP
[18:27] <cristian__> i'm upgrading a plugin, someone inserted in the debian package the Divert to preserve the files. when i install my package with the new plugin it says "/usr/lib/pinguino.so is diverted by package pinguino10", pinguino 11 is not installed
[18:27] <Reaga> why does software get slower iwth more updates
[18:27] <Reaga> shouldnt it be the oher way around
[18:28] <OpenIndianaVbox> cristian__: you shouldn't mix debian packages with ubuntu
[18:28] <cristian__> it's an upgrade
[18:28] <usr13> Reaga: What software is getting slower?
[18:29] <d70> does anybody know what is "IRQ: 0.99 No irq handler for vector (-1)" ?
[18:29] <cristian__> is there a way to divert the new one file ?
[18:29] <isopov> Hello, I have the following in my dmesg - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225032/ - does this mean that ACPI is not used and thats why lm-sensors don't work?
[18:29] <ianp> OpenIndianaVbox: is there a good way to convert or migrate them?
[18:29] <usr13> Reaga: I'll tell you one thing for sure:  If you install an operating system from 7 or 8 years ago, it would seem really fast, but a lot less functional.
[18:30] <ianp> OpenIndianaVbox: any good tips on documentation for this, is it in ubuntu documentation? (package management, etc)
[18:30] <cristian__> ok googleis my friens as ever
[18:30] <cristian__> bye guys
[18:30] <win7usr> hey if i create an live usb ubuntu and run will it detects my wirless
[18:30] <ianp> specifically, i have a problem where there is a listed dep., but i can't find it anywhere.. maybe i have to make it myself
[18:30] <usr13> win7usr: Possibly
[18:30] <usr13> win7usr: Try it and see.
[18:30] <ianp> win7usr: why wouldn't it?
[18:31] <ianp> as long as you have fairly common components, it should work
[18:31] <ianp> i.e. not some strange obscure wireless device with rare custom drivers
[18:31] <usr13> win7usr: See there?  (Even ianp doesn't have a crystal ball.)
[18:33] <b0ot> It seems like there are tools that can do the delayed delievery, the problem is having the servers replicate all data between each other and having a method for users to contact the closest server to update
[18:33] <ubunnytu> In short: Is it possible to customize the guest account?
[18:33] <b0ot> Looking for a piece of  server software that can allow messaging/files transfer from user to one or more users on a private LAN (no net access). These servers will be going on and offline frequently and so will the users, so if the user goes offline the messages they missed will be sent to them when they log back on. The users will connect to the closest server when they logon to get any missed messages. If servers get disconnected from one another when th
[18:33] <b0ot> ey get connected again all messages will be synced and replicated.
[18:34] <usr13> ubunnytu: Sure, from the original one.
[18:34] <Troy^> hello where do i disable the locking of my desktop when inactive can't find it in unity?
[18:34] <usr13> Troy^: screesnaver configs
[18:34] <ubunnytu> usr13: how can it be done?
[18:34] <Reaga> help me
[18:35] <usr13> ubunnytu: I'm assuming you want to add more rights?  edit /etc/group
[18:35] <auronandace> !bot
[18:37] <ubunnytu> usr13: I'd like to change the UI text size, visible program icons etc.
[18:38] <bazhang> ubottu, lag
[18:39] <OpenIndianaVbox> !botsnack
[18:40] <usr13> ubunnytu:  Are you using Unity or Gnome Classic?  or....?
[18:40] <ubunnytu> usr13: oh sorry forgot to mention.... Ubuntu 12.04 desktop
[18:42] <usr13> ubunnytu: install gconf-editor
[18:43] <ubunnytu> usr13: iḿ on it...
[18:44] <ubunnytu> usr13: it is installed
[18:44] <usr13> use it
[18:44] <usr13> ubunnytu: Or, if you are in uinty use MyUnity
[18:45] <usr13> ubunnytu: http://www.ntlug.org/Articles/CustomizeUbuntu
[18:45] <sremie89> Every time I want to type a (double) quote I have to press an extra space before it appears, how to turn this off?
[18:46] <usr13> sremie89: Is the Shift key working?
[18:46] <ubunnytu> usr13: not sure if that answers my question... the guest account is reset on every login, how can I make stable changes to it
[18:47] <sremie89> Yeah, itś just that when I type a (double) quote it won appear unless I press space. So when I type a double quote and immediately afterwards type an a I get this ä
[18:47] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:48] <kingnebex> hi guys
[18:48] <usr13> sremie89: Have you messed with the settings in "System Settings...-->Keyboard" and then clicking on Layout Settings?
[18:49] <sremie89> Every time I want to type a (double) quote I have to press an extra space before it appears. But if I type let's say an a immediately after pressing double quotes I get this ä
[18:49] <kingnebex> im looking for the best web developed program that will work in ubuntu 12.04 lts..can any 1 help me with some ideas?
[18:49] <Evdb> Guys, my head is about to explode and I'm literally getting sick, I need someone with a Mac and Ubuntu
[18:50] <jrib> Evdb: just ask your question
[18:50] <usr13> kingnebex: Lots of folks are using CMS'es like drupal and joomla
[18:51] <kingnebex> @<usr13> is it like dream weaver?
[18:51] <Evdb> I did that freaking 20 times here now, can someone just tell me if you're using Mac, otherwise there's no sense in typing it for the hunrdeth time
[18:51] <usr13> kingnebex: But if you just want a basic wisiwig html editor, try bluefish.
[18:51] <bazhang> !html | kingnebex
[18:51] <jrib> Evdb: you should just copy and paste it
[18:52] <Evdb> I'm exhausted and just need to get this to work for school
[18:52] <Evdb> I can't boot from cd in refit
[18:52] <jrib> Evdb: so the first step is to ask a question.
[18:52] <Evdb> It gives windows and efi
[18:52] <DrCode> hi all
[18:52] <dontknow> wow amazon suggestions in dash? really great!
[18:52] <usr13> kingnebex: No, drupal and joomla are Content Management Systems, see drupal.org or joomla.org or http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html
[18:52] <Evdb> Neither of them worj
[18:52] <jrib> !ot | dontknow
[18:52] <DrCode> how can I update my clock to jeruslam?
[18:53] <jrib> Evdb: try to ask your question on one line
[18:53] <Evdb> I always get black screen and cursor before even getting to boot menu
i just want to build up websites thats all
[18:53] <jrib> Evdb: you can't get to the live ubuntu system?
[18:53] <dontknow> jrib, great!
[18:53] <bazhang> kingnebex, so try one of those listed
[18:54] <usr13> DrCode: Click on the System menu on the top panel, go into the Administration sub-menu, and click on Time and Date.
[18:54] <DrCode> ok
[18:54] <DrCode> thank you
[18:54] <DrCode> it worked
[18:55] <dontknow> jrib, will the dash send every query you type?
[18:55] <jrib> dontknow: you can ask technical questions about 12.10 features in #ubuntu+1; this channel only supports released versions of ubuntu
[18:56] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
 have u been getting problems with ur ubuntu 12.04 lately or since installed?
[18:57] <ubunnytu> my microwave just blew a fuse which caused my internet to disconnect... could not receive any messages in the last 10 minutes
[18:58] <Evdb> Okay listen: I burnt 64 bit ubuntu to cd, slowest speed and checked the box to check the stuff. When I start up my MacBook in refit i see a linix and legacy os. Neiher of them will go further than black screen with white blinking cursor. I'm exhausted sick and need to get this working for school. My sleep is suffering from it and the ubuntu JUST WON'T work ... I tried live usb, but after first boot of installed ubuntu i got kernel panic
[18:58] <jrib> Evdb: you need to hold down some sort of key combination to boot from a cd in a mac I believe
[18:58] <ubunnytu> Here's another try: Ubuntu 12.04, how can one make customizations to guest account persistent?
[18:59] <usr13> Evdb: I don't know about Apple stuff, but I wonder if the alternate-CD would be of any use to you?  Anyone?
[19:01] <usr13> ubunnytu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1566078
[19:02]  * Evdb sighs
[19:02] <Evdb> Is my connection death?
[19:02] <Pici> Evdb: no. freenode is having some network issues though.
[19:03] <Evdb> Jerib: yeah I tried that
[19:03] <Evdb> No succes
[19:03] <Evdb> Always get the black screen with the cursor
[19:04] <OpenIndianaVbox> !nomodeset | Evdb
[19:04] <Evdb> The live usb worked but first boot gave kernel panic timer yaddyadda
[19:04] <ubunnytu> usr13: Thank you very much!
[19:04] <Evdb> I can't choose nomodeset because inonly get the black screen
[19:05] <jrib> Evdb: so you've never actually managed to boot from the cd?
[19:05] <CarlFK> broadcom bcm4312 wifi - doesn't seem to work out of the box.  is there a package for it?
[19:05] <Evdb> Jrib: indeed
[19:05] <jrib> CarlFK: check jockey-gtk for the STA driver
[19:06] <CarlFK> jrib: thainks
[19:06] <jrib> Evdb: but does your computer try to (after holding down whatever the keyboard shortcut is)?
[19:06] <Evdb> Yeah I hear it spinning but get the endless black screen with blinking white cursor
[19:07] <jrib> Evdb: then the alternate cd suggestion from someone earlier might me a way to go
[19:07] <Evdb> I could try that
[19:08] <Fyodorovna> !broadcom | CarlFK  as well this wiki
[19:09] <Evdb> Can someone link the laternate thing?
[19:09] <Pici> !alternate
[19:09] <OpenIndianaVbox> !alternate | Evdb
[19:09] <Evdb> Thanks
[19:12] <sremie89> Every time I want to type a (double) quote I have to press an extra space before it appears. But if I type let's say an a immediately after pressing double quotes I get this ä
[19:14] <LordOfLight> whats up with the flood bot fun here?
[19:14] <Pici> LordOfLight: floodbots don't like netsplits
[19:14] <LordOfLight> heh. I guess I wasnt planning on one
[19:15] <MarcoFe> why this guy?
[19:15] <KsM> [Why are there 3 flood bots that all set the same modes?]
[19:15] <Pici> KsM: because thats how they work, but when there are netsplits and other ping craziness happens they get confused.
[19:16] <mstenta> This may not be the right room, but I'm seeing something really weird in my Ubuntu server: duplicate files in the same directory. They are white, while all the other files are purple, when I run ls -al.  I can't delete them, because they "don't exist", but a PHP script I'm running won't overwrite them because it thinks they're there. How can this be?
[19:16] <Evdb> Burning 32 bit now
[19:16] <Evdb> Please fingers crossed
[19:17] <Sokel> mstenta: Go to single user mode or boot a system rescue disc and delete them.
[19:20] <Uh> Anyone have any network cracking experience?
[19:21] <mstenta> Sokel: thanks! I just figured out I can remove them by their inode numbers
[19:21] <calwig> hi
[19:21] <Uh> Anyone at all?
[19:21] <calwig> i use wget for downloading
[19:21] <calwig> how can you resume download without downloading duplicate
[19:22] <jrib> calwig: wget -c
[19:24] <_Trullo> why is my screen bigger than the actual screen? how do I fix this? also, it says some 72" screen, but I have a 60" screen, how do I get that right?
[19:24] <Guest7570> my download folder on my home folder are just gone
[19:24] <Guest7570> i don't know how this happens i didn't delete
[19:25] <jrib> Guest7570: maybe you changed your language?
[19:25] <Guest7570> jrib, nope
[19:26] <Guest7570> jrib, some days ago my files in download folder are gone automattically
[19:26] <OpenIndianaVbox> Guest7570: ls -a
[19:26] <Guest7570> nope
[19:26] <Guest7570> how could this happens
[19:30] <servet_demirOz> Hi all! :)
[19:30] <skpl> RAM-TRON
[19:30] <skpl> RAMRAMRAM
[19:30] <fluitfries> hi all, can default Ubuntu or derivatives browse a cell phone (motorola) via usb cable?
[19:31] <servet_demirOz> How can i update the Ubuntu 12.04 from terminal? (i need exatly the same proces that Updfate Manager does).
[19:31] <zykotick9> servet_demirOz: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[19:32] <servet_demirOz>  zykotick9: first thank you! what is differences of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" vs "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[19:32] <zykotick9> servet_demirOz: dist-upgrade upgrades EVERYTHING.  upgrade doesn't
[19:32] <OpenIndianaVbox> !dist-upgrade | servet_demirOz
[19:32] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | servet_demirOz
[19:33] <servet_demirOz> bazhang zykotick9 : thank you! :)
[19:38] <articolo11> list
[19:39] <mrm2m> Hi,
[19:40] <mrm2m> I found a small bug in the libfuse-dev package. There are non compiling examples. I've got a bugfix. Where and how should I report that?
[19:41] <jrib> !bug | mrm2m
[19:41] <jrib> mrm2m: #ubuntu-bugs can help you as well
[19:43] <carmine46> . H . E . L . L . O . #ubuntu . H . E . L . L . O .
[19:43] <carmine46> hello
[19:43] <carmine46> !list
[19:44] <ElixirVitae> !botsnack
[19:44] <ElixirVitae> ^^
[19:44] <CiscoNinja> good day everyone, can someone please assist me. running precise everytime i boot my laptop i get crash report for /usr/bin/blueman-applet
[19:44] <CiscoNinja> i am using a bluetooth mouse them little one you by from costco
[19:45] <mrm2m> jrib, ubottu: thanks.
[19:48] <trapni> does anyone know about debian package creations? -- where do I find exact documentation about the file debian/rules and debian/control?
[19:48] <TuoNick> . H . E . L . L . O . #ubuntu . H . E . L . L . O .
[19:48] <ikonia> TuoNick: please don't do that
[19:48] <eXile_> Im trying to install php5-imagick but I keep getting: php5-imagick : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.17-1~dotdeb.0) but 5.4.6-2~precise+1 is to be installed, I have spent a significant time googling but havent really found a solution, do I have to downgrade the php-common package or something?
[19:49] <arnotixe> jrib, hi thanks that tightvncserver on remote then connect to the resulting desktop works.
[19:49] <jrib> arnotixe: cool
[19:49] <jrib> eXile_: you should get rid of whatever unofficial crud it is that you have installed
[19:50] <eXile_> jrib I wasnt aware it was unoffical
[19:50] <eXile_> can you point me in the rigth direction
[19:50] <jrib> eXile_: dotdeb isn't supported
[19:51] <jrib> eXile_: you should get rid of it, it's what is causing your issues
[19:51] <Guido1> hello, i have a littleproblem wit xubuntu, which i just instaled. i don't have sound any more
[19:51] <eXile_> how do I go about doing that? sorry for the newb quesiton
[19:52] <eXile_> and have it install the right version
[19:53] <jrib> eXile_: the easiest way is for you to just remove the packages and then install them again
[19:54] <eXile_> which would be php5 php5-common php5-cli ?
[19:55] <jrib> eXile_: at least, yeah
[20:01] <jilebedev> Hi, I have a file.ext that is owned by root and is 755 permissions. When I run `sudo cmd >> file.ext`, I get a permission error. Why is that? Doesn't sudo apply to the output redirection as well? How do I get around this?
[20:02] <zykotick9> jilebedev: redirect could be issue for sudo, check out the use of "tee"
[20:02] <naxil> hello
[20:03] <naxil> is possible set the bandwith to eth1?
[20:03] <naxil> the max bandwith
[20:03] <ni1s> jilebedev, try sudo $(cmd >> file.ext)
[20:03] <genii-around> naxil: Look into tc
[20:04] <naxil> tc?
[20:05] <naxil> genii-around,  what is tc?
[20:05] <genii-around> naxil: Stands for Traffic Control, part of iproute package
[20:06] <naxil> for run it'
[20:06] <naxil> ?
[20:06] <naxil> sorry iam noob
[20:06] <BebopSteve> Is anyone familiar with docky config files?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky
[20:06] <naxil> hello janos
[20:06] <naxil> my real name is janos
[20:07] <naxil> genii-around,  i can set the bandwith max with tc?
[20:07] <GlenUK> o/
[20:07] <mbeierl_> I've started a VNC session on :1 (Ubuntu 11.10), running metacity instead of unity, but when I connect to the virtual desktop, the "d" key acts as if it were "meta-D" and it minimizes all the windows.  Does anyone know what controls this behaviour?
[20:09] <calwig> does anyone know "wget" commands? to where I can continue a previous download?
[20:09] <genii-around> naxil: Yes, but i do not have time at the moment to explain how tc works
[20:09] <ni1s> calwig, wget -c
[20:09] <mbeierl_> naxil, check out wondershaper for information on how tc can be used to limit speeds: http://lartc.org/wondershaper/  It's also in the repos as 'wondershaper'
[20:12] <BluesKaj> wget usually puts the file in ~/Downloads  ...you can find the page in your browser history , but you'll have to search for the actual wget url ...you could try going back with arrow key in the terminal to find it as well , calwig
[20:13] <mbeierl_> BluesKaj, wget goes into ~/Downloads?  It goes into the current directory unless you explicitly give it a name to use
[20:14] <BluesKaj> mbeierl_, perhaps i changed the default path , and I've forgotten
[20:16] <mbeierl_> BluesKaj, I know that web browsers keep a default path that they use, but wget - that's the command line utility, no?
[20:16] <GlenUK> why would my /tmp folder become locked? (become read only) - it is not mounted on any special partition (only have one) and the other folders on the partition are not locked. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225290/
[20:16] <mbeierl_> BluesKaj, not attempting to nit-pick, just making sure i know which util was being talked about
[20:17] <BluesKaj> mbeierl_, yes it's a cli utlity ,but works well
[20:17] <OpenIndianaVbox> mbeierl_: yes, wget is commandline downloader
[20:17] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, pastebin the output of "mount", please
[20:18] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, also check the output of 'dmesg' to see if there are any disk errors and the OS put the filesystem into read-only mode to prevent damage
[20:19] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225297/
[20:19] <GlenUK> mount
[20:19] <|Anthony|> any help here please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2062245
[20:19] <OpenIndianaVbox> !here | |Anthony|
[20:20] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, I don't like that last line of the mount cmd output: mount: warning: /etc/mtab is not writeable (e.g. read-only file-system)  That typically means your / filesystem had an error and the whole thing has gone read-only
[20:20] <|Anthony|> OpenIndianaVbox, I've been *trying* to get multiseat and pulseaudio to play nice together. the details of which are found in the forum post i linked... which is why i posted the link instead of the question.
[20:21] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, I should add: it means "/" went that way, as /etc/ and /tmp are all on the / filesystem according to the mount output you shared
[20:21] <GlenUK> is there any way to disable the join leave notifivations in Empathy?
[20:21] <Guest68486> Could anyone help me set up mythtv I opend the backend and its asking for a username and password and I dont know either!!
[20:21] <Sajan> What is the current, actively developed, support way to share media to a Xbox 360?
[20:21] <xangua> GlenUK: i would try a dedicated irc client, empathy is Very limited for irc
[20:21] <OpenIndianaVbox> |Anthony|: sorry, i was making the point that if you gave a brief overview here then people know what problem you are linking to
[20:22] <zykotick9> !upnp | Sajan i'd start here.
[20:22] <OpenIndianaVbox> |Anthony|: they would be more likely to look at your link then
[20:23] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: i cannot get the full output of dmesg, can i pipe that to a text file?
[20:23] <|Anthony|> OpenIndianaVbox, i appreciate the suggestion. lol most people shy away from helping with multiseat issues as it is *non-standard* usage
[20:23] <Sajan> zykotick9, cool.  thanks.
[20:23] <GlenUK> xangua: i am thinking the same :)
[20:23] <daniel__> hi someone knows why getting started arduino ?
[20:25] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, you can try "dmesg | less" and then hit the space bar to go through page at a time
[20:25] <Sajan> zykotick9, It looks as if MediaTomb project has gone inactive for a couple years.  Off the top of your head, are there any other UPnP servers that you'd recommend?
[20:26] <cloudy> Hello - I installed openconnect in order to connect to a cisco vpn service, but when I try to create a new vpn item it only gives me pptp. I am running 12.04
[20:26] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, you can also type "/dev/sdb6" in the
[20:27] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, less command and it will search for dev/sdb6 one occurence at a time.  Hit / again to search for the next occurrence
[20:27] <zykotick9> Sajan: sorry, i don't use upnp.  good luck.
[20:27] <cloudy> I should add "in the network manager2
[20:27] <cloudy> I should add "in the network manager"
[20:27] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: let me grab a better irc client, getting bogged down with join/leave spam :)
[20:28] <genii-around> !info ushare
[20:29] <cloudy> !info openconnect
[20:29] <mbeierl_> cloudy, have you also installed the network-manager-openconnect-gnome?
[20:29] <|Anthony|> How can i set up pulseaudio in a system-wide instance and have localhost users connect to it
[20:30] <cloudy> mbeierl_, thank you :)
[20:30] <mbeierl_> cloudy, one installs the vpn capabilities itself, the -gnome one installs the GUI to configure it
[20:30] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: ok i cannot install software atm :)
[20:30] <mbeierl_> cloudy, glad it helped, then.  Been there done that with other vpn software plugins
[20:30] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: 'dmesg | less /dev/sdb6' ?
[20:31] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, you will not be able to install or modify the system at all until it is fixed
[20:31] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, sorry, no.  'dmesg | less' then, when you get the first page, "/" starts entering a "search for" command
[20:31] <intrader> Anyone, I have a usb drive that I just formatted with Gparted to ext4. The drive mounts with label Backup and contents lost+found. The Deja backup tool does not see the drive:'Waiting for "SanDisk Cruiser:Backup" to become connectsI don't knwo what I should do.
[20:31] <cloudy> mbeierl_, :) - next issue - when I select the entry I created, I am not being asked for the user name and password - using rsa token
[20:32] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, so you want to look for entries relating to dev/sdb6, so "/" followed by "dev/sdb6" and hit enter
[20:32] <arsimet> hallo an alle....
[20:32] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: not found
[20:32] <mbeierl_> cloudy, I'm not familiar with the prompts or credentials that openconnect requires.  Are there additional tabs or pop-ups in the gui?
[20:33] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, try "grep '/dev/sdb' /var/log/syslog" ?
[20:33] <cloudy> mbeierl_, only a tab for IP addressing
[20:34] <cloudy> mbeierl_, the log shows that I am connecting to the right URL. The logs show "Please enter your username and password." But it never gives me any prompt to enter that information.
[20:34] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225328/
[20:35] <mbeierl_> cloudy, GlenUK - I am very sorry.  I need to run for a while :(
[20:35] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: ok :) thank you
[20:35] <cloudy> mbeierl_, no worries. thank you
[20:35] <mbeierl_> np.  ciao for now!
[20:36] <GlenUK> Can anyone help me solve an issue with my hard drive locking? (maybe related to /tmp folder)
[20:36] <AaronCampbell> I had to remove Pulseaudio to get Skype audio to sound right.  Unfortunately it also removed the volume icon/control from the panel.  Is there an alternative that I can install to get that control back up there?
[20:37] <intrader> The Storage tab shows two selections with name Backup. When I chose annother 'Backup', it finds it too small. The drive has 14.7 GB and what I am backing up has less that 10GB.
[20:38] <compdoc> GlenUK, what do you mean locking?
[20:38] <eXile_> I keep getting dependency issues when trying to install php5-imagick, I have removed the packages and erinstalled them even done an upgrade and I still get the same issue: php5-imagick : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.17-1~dotdeb.0) but 5.4.6-2~precise+1 is to be installed any suggestions on how to fix it
[20:39] <GlenUK> compdoc: I tried installing a large application and it crashed, here is the message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225290/
[20:39] <GlenUK> compdoc: Now I cannot install anything so I feel the whole partition is locked now
[20:40] <compdoc> GlenUK, when hard drives have issues, its mounted as read-only. Open the Disk utility, and check the crive's health
[20:40] <compdoc> *drive's
[20:40] <jrib> eXile_: same answer as before
[20:40] <eXile_> jrib
[20:40] <eXile_> I did remove them
[20:40] <eXile_> and reisntalled them
[20:40] <eXile_> and I get the same issue
[20:40] <FloodBot1> eXile_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:41] <eXile_> so obviosuly I didnt do it right or something else is broken
[20:41] <jrib> eXile_: do you still have the dotdeb repositories enabled...?
[20:41] <eXile_> well thats probably the problem
[20:41] <eXile_> where do I remove them
[20:41] <jrib> eXile_: how did you add it?
[20:41] <GlenUK> compdoc: i assume i am going to need to restart: Device is mounted and no online capability in fsck tool for file system
[20:42] <eXile_> I have no idea, I didnt
[20:42] <jrib> eXile_: who did?
[20:42] <compdoc> GlenUK, what does Disk Utility say about the drive's health?
[20:42] <eXile_> this is a vanillia install form the datacenter I got the server from
[20:42] <jrib> eXile_: complain to them then
[20:43] <eXile_> ok thanks
[20:43] <intrader> It appears that usb drive with volume name Backup has no file system? I am unable to create anything on it. Maybe that is the reason Deja can't find space for backup
[20:43] <GlenUK> compdoc: Overall assessment: Disk has a few bad sectors. further down i see: Current Pending Sector Count..... Number of sectors waiting to be remapped: 2
[20:43] <WeThePeople> hi
[20:43] <Elesa> What's the best Adobe After Effects alternative for Ubuntu?
[20:43] <jackylantern> hello
[20:43] <jackylantern> new here
[20:43] <compdoc> GlenUK, thats the problem. Can you click the button to open the SMART info, and read how many bad secotrs>?
[20:44] <jackylantern> anyone know a good chaneel?
[20:44] <compdoc> sectors
[20:44] <GlenUK> compdoc: 2
[20:44] <OpenIndianaVbox> !ot | jackylantern
[20:44] <compdoc> not Current Pending Sectors, but Reallocated sectors
[20:44] <GlenUK> compdoc: 0
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> !equivalent > Elesa
[20:45] <WeThePeople> jackylantern, do you have a ubuntu related question?
[20:46] <compdoc> GlenUK, hmm, well, pending sectors mean that the drive had problems reading/writing, but it might not actaully be the drive - could be power issues, or something else. In any case, when you start having bad sectors, and the number starts to grow, its time for a new drive. You should backup your data in the mean time
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> Elesa  there's also http://www.linuxalt.com/ and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software
[20:47] <compdoc> GlenUK, and yeah, I think you just need to reboot
[20:47] <GlenUK> compdoc: is there anything i can do in the mean time? perform a disk check maybe?
[20:47] <compdoc> GlenUK, there are tests to run in Disk Util
[20:47] <compdoc> SMART tests
[20:47] <compdoc> short and long
[20:48] <GlenUK> compdoc ty
[20:48] <compdoc> good luck with that
[20:48] <Elesa> Thanks, MonkeyDust! :D
[20:49] <intrader> I have a USB drive that I formatted with Gparted. It shows lost-found and 14.7 GB of space. However I can't create any folders or files in the drive.
[20:49] <alecb> I tried to compile my own wifi kernel drivers and install them as per instructions on some askubuntu thread -- is there a way to ensure that the drivers being used are actually the ones I compiled?
[20:50] <catalinb> Hello. I'm developing a qt application - what is the easiest way to detect whether global menu is being used?
[20:53] <Lorra> Hey everybody! I just discovered this peace of beauty called lolcat which can output files on your console written in a awesome rainbow-coloured font. Now I would like to have all of my output like that, does anybody have a clue on how to do that??
[20:54] <jrib> Lorra: that's quite amusing...
[20:54] <jrib> Lorra: maybe #bash can offer advice
[20:54] <Lorra> jrib, it's totally amusing, you should try that!
[20:55] <intrader> Anyone, I need to perform a backup. I have a USB drive that I formatted with Gparted. It shows lost-found and 14.7 GB of space. However I can't create any folders or files in the drive.
[20:56] <Seveas> echo jrib | figlet | lolcat
[20:56]  * jrib updates his motd
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> intrader  rsync -avv ~ [destination] copies home to the usb drive
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> intrader  make that rsync -- progress -avv ~ [destination]
[20:58] <ylere> Hi, it seems that my linux file system got corrupted. I repaired it with fsck but now it seems that some files are missing and I get a kernel panic during boot. I have a separate /home partition and everything is fine there. Is it possible to chroot into the file system and reinstall all system files?
[20:59] <Seveas> ylere, in theory yes, unless it's too damaged
[21:00] <ylere> @Seveas: What command do I need to run after the chroot?
[21:00] <Seveas> ylere, boot from a live cd, get a root terminal, mount the drive, chroot into it and run this: dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall
[21:01] <ylere> Seveas, okay, thanks! I will try this...
[21:01] <Seveas> the awk filters out just the installed packages
[21:01] <micah_> can someone peleeeease help me with a recordmydesktop issue?
[21:01] <Seveas> ylere, now, if your system is too damaged for the chroot to succeed, you'll have a more difficult time
[21:04] <witakr> Hello good people.
[21:04] <ylere> Seveas, lets hope it works. I do not understand how this happened anyway. Suddenly the partition was mounted read-only. I didn't even noticed it for quite some time because everything was running fine (including a virtual machine), until an application tried to access /tmp.
[21:05] <Troy^> i cant seem to find the option in unity to prevent locking my computer after inactivity?
[21:07] <MASTERPIECE> how to play euro truck simulator on ubuntu
[21:07] <MASTERPIECE> ?
[21:07] <bmallred> Troy^: are you talking about the setting under "Brightness and Lock"?
[21:07] <Ramone> hey all... can anyone recommend a tool for listing a disk's largest files in order?
[21:07] <Troy^> thank you bmallred
[21:08] <bmallred> Troy^: not a problem
[21:08] <siente> !flash
[21:10] <giuseppefederico> !list
[21:10] <intrader> Anyone, I need to perform a backup. I have a USB drive that I formatted with Gparted. It shows lost-found and 14.7 GB of space. However I can't create any folders or files in the drive. I have followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422114 without result
[21:10] <siente> !Restricted
[21:10] <witakr> I know this is not directly related to ubuntu but I don't know where else to ask where I might get a response. Can someone help me in setting up my DSL modem and router to allow my media server to access via the internet? FYI: It is for personal use only. I am wanting to be able to access my DVD collection from my phone. i have all that done via Plex but for some reason plex is not able to reach my server and everything I have
[21:10] <witakr> found so far points to the issue being with my modem and/or router.
[21:11] <jose__> esto no hay quién lo entienda !!!
[21:11] <ylere> Ramone, try boabab or gdmap
[21:11] <jose__> vaya lioooo !!
[21:12] <witakr> My plex server is seemingly set up correctly because I can access my movies and watch them when my phone is connected via wifi to my home network but via the internet is another story
[21:14] <vivid> anyone know how to remove the apps/music purchasing from the dash?
[21:14] <vivid> i really dont use linux for the advertisements
[21:16] <genii-around> vivid: You are using 12.10 ?
[21:16] <thedead> Hi all. I'm trying to jail a media streamer with chroot but I always chrooted only simple things (like ssh, bash (strange..yeah...strange), and so on). the streamer in question is in java so i chrooted bash, java and dpkg and i installed the program in the chrooted env. Now i have a doubt: how can i execute it at the boot? I can setup a startup script in rc but i don't know what to write. This streamer will be used as a serv
[21:16] <thedead> ice and it need to bind a socket and to perform rw operations on the real fs.
[21:17] <vivid> genii-around, no, using precise
[21:17] <Core_UK> Hello I ran the command sudo e2fsck -cfpv /dev/sdb2 expecting to start seeing some output, but do not see anything yet? after 15 mins, is that normal?:)
[21:17] <vivid> genii-around, i found the apps, but i want to remove the music available for purchase and the online videos sections..
[21:18] <intrader> According to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422114 I should be able to create folders and files in a usb drive that I formatted with Gpartd as Ext 4 (it has 14.7 GB) with label Backup. As the fstab was modified on reboot it wants the drive to be available. What else can I do to make the udb drive accessible to Deja backup?
[21:19] <Al_> hi everyone
[21:19] <Al_> This might sound crazy
[21:19] <Al_> but I have a major problem relating ubuntu
[21:20] <IdleOne> vivid: You can remove unity-lens-music but I believe that will also remove the ability to search for music locally.
[21:20] <Al_> can someone offer some help pls?
[21:20] <witakr> Al_, can you elaborate?
[21:20] <IdleOne> vivid: search for music via dash that is
[21:20] <Al_> yes
[21:20] <vivid> IdleOne, yeah, i dont want to do that, just want to disable the available for purchase section
[21:20] <vivid> so....when i search for a song, i dont want it to advertise
[21:20] <intrader> According to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422114 I should be able to create folders and files in a usb drive that I formatted with Gpartd as Ext 4 (it has 14.7 GB) with label Backup. As the fstab was modified on reboot it wants the drive to be available. What else can I do to make the udb drive accessible to Deja backup?I have removed the fstab entries so that can reboot.
[21:21] <Al_> yes witakr
[21:21] <IdleOne> vivid: #ubuntu-unity may be of more help, and technically they are not ads but search results. anyway, #ubuntu-unity
[21:21] <witakr> Al_, Ok... What specific problems are you having?
[21:21] <Al_> boot up
[21:21] <Al_> ubuntu wont boot
[21:21] <Al_> and I've erased windows 7 off my computer
[21:21] <Core_UK> Hello I ran the command sudo e2fsck -cfpv /dev/sdb2 expecting to start seeing some output, but do not see anything yet? after 15 mins, is that normal?:)
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> Al_  start from the beginning, what were you doing and what went wrong -- in 1 line please
[21:22] <witakr> Al_,  OK is it giving you any messages or errors or something to that effect which you might think is relevant to your problem?
[21:22] <Al_> it just goes to a purple screen
[21:22] <Al_> or sometimes
[21:23] <Al_> it says panic something
[21:23] <Al_> I don't wanna come across like an idiot
[21:23] <Al_> but I am really new to this
[21:23] <witakr> Al_, How many times have you tried booting ubuntu?
[21:23] <Al_> many times
[21:23] <Al_> I am now running kubuntu
[21:23] <Al_> which would only work on live mode
[21:24] <Al_> off my USB
[21:24] <Al_> any ideas?
[21:24] <witakr> Al_, Ok something may have gone awry during the install. What version were you trying to install?
[21:24] <_XMENDES> hey guys. im trying to use USHARE but my files.avi are not visible on WDTV live.
[21:24] <Al_> the latest one
[21:24] <_XMENDES> it found the folders, but not the .avi files
[21:25] <Al_> 12.04
[21:25] <witakr> Al_, Ok.. were you trying to install from a cd or live USB?
[21:25] <Al_> live USB
[21:25] <Core_UK> Hello I ran the command sudo e2fsck -cfpv /dev/sdb2 expecting to start seeing some output, but do not see anything yet? after 15 mins, is that normal?:)
[21:26] <witakr> Al_, Did you create the live USB using Windows? 7? xp? or another system?
[21:26] <Al_> I used vista
[21:26] <Al_> which I have on an older laptop
[21:26] <intrader> Anyone, According to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422114 I should be able to create folders and files in a usb drive that I formatted with Gpartd as Ext 4 (it has 14.7 GB) with label Backup. As the fstab was modified on reboot it wants the drive to be available. What else can I do to make the udb drive accessible to Deja backup?I have removed the fstab entries so that can reboot.
[21:26] <witakr> Al_, Ok how did you create the Live USB? what live USB creator did you use?
[21:27] <_XMENDES> anyone?
[21:27] <Al_> lily
[21:29] <witakr> Al_, Ok the machine you're trying to install ubuntu on.. can you give me some detail about it? such as make and model and any changes in hardware you have made such as did you upgrade your video or sound cards.. things of that sort.. be specific on the make and model so i can find it
[21:30] <Al_> it's an advent Roma/ intel celeron c900
[21:30] <Al_> memory: 3072MB DDR2 RAM
[21:30] <Al_> Hard Drive 250 GB
[21:30] <daemon> hey all; im getting an error whenb I try to start exim
[21:30] <daemon> Exim configuration error in line 141 of /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.tmp "\n" user mailnull was not found
[21:31] <daemon> ^ whats going on
[21:31] <daemon> the "\n" is meant to be a real zn jsut wanted to compress it onto one line
[21:32]  * eamon is listening to キセキはじまり☆ by 達見 恵 featured by 佐野宏晃
[21:32] <_XMENDES> hey guys. im trying to use USHARE but my files.avi are not visible on WDTV live. anyone can help me?
[21:33] <Al_> witakr did you get that?
[21:33] <witakr> Al_, Ok there should be a model number on case by the trackpad or on the screen bezel can you din that for me... if not then look for the sticker on the underside and you should see s/n and model numbers.. i just need the model number
[21:34] <Al_> witakr did you get that?
[21:36] <grimeton> someone else seeing very bad i/o performance with the lts kernel?
[21:38] <_XMENDES> anyone knows ushare? i trying to see my files on cellphone and dont works to
[21:38] <_XMENDES> only appears the folders :/
[21:39] <opiates|netbook> greetings
[21:39] <viashimo> in both chrome and firefox listen buttons don't work. flash (eg. youtube) is fine. thoughts or suggestions?
[21:40] <rbrooks> having problems caht on my ubuntu
[21:40]  * eamon is listening to キセキはじまり☆ on pop'n music 19 TUNE STREET original soundtrack by 達見 恵 featured by 佐野宏晃 (2011)
[21:41] <k1l> eamon: would you mind to stop that script for the #ubuntu support channel?
[21:41] <eamon> k k1l
[21:42] <rbrooks> ?
[21:42] <rbrooks> he is donig this?
[21:43] <k1l> !netsplit > rbrooks
[21:45] <rbrooks> WTF ?  ok
[21:46] <widith> hi, does root have read write execute priveleges on files they are not the owners of?
[21:48]  * genii-around kicks at FloodBot3
[21:51] <xine> widith: yes
[21:54] <PyroN00B> Hey
[21:54] <PyroN00B> I have a bug report, if there are any Ubuntu developers in the room.
[21:55] <MonkeyDust>  !bug
[21:55] <sylar_> hi
[21:55] <VlanZ> hi there
[21:56] <VlanZ> anyone can help me to figure out how to write a simple scrit to perform a write on a external USB drive that powers down every 15 mins if idle so i can keep it up?
[21:56] <xreal> Where has ubuntu.de/ubuntu-de gone?
[21:56] <xreal> ARGH, my fault
[21:57] <rufsketch1> Hello everyone
[21:58] <rufsketch1> how can I install 32-bit nvidia drivers on 64-bit ubuntu?
[21:59] <GregoryFenton> VlanZ, #!/bin/bash  while true; do echo 1 > /mnt/yourdrive/tmpfile; sleep 900; done
[22:00] <VlanZ> GregoryFenton: sorry for my ignorance, but how do i make this script to run at startup?
[22:00] <muellisoft> well VlanZ. I believe the real solution would involve telling the hardware to not shutdown. Check whether hdparm gives you relevant options.
[22:01] <VlanZ> muellisoft: the usb drive enclosure seems to ignore any setting like that
[22:01] <VlanZ> unfortunately
[22:01] <GregoryFenton> VlanZ, crontab -e   add a new line at the bottom: @reboot /path/to/script
[22:02] <goddard> Did you know you can have a conversation with yourself
[22:02] <Kingsy> guys, atm I am using the open radeon driver. It works just great but its an old version. How difficult is it to upgrade it to the latest?
[22:02] <Estragon> Hi
[22:03] <Kingsy> if anyone in here is using that driver?
[22:03] <Estragon> I was an issue with my ubuntu server, sometimes server CPU & RAM goes to 100% and ssh / httpd / services doesnt respond anymore
[22:03] <VlanZ> GregoryFenton: thanks, i'll try that out :)
[22:03] <Estragon> forcing a hard reboot
[22:03] <Estragon> any idea on what to look for ?
[22:03] <GregoryFenton> VlanZ, you're welcome :)
[22:03] <Estragon> any log I can read ?
[22:04] <Kingsy> Estragon: atop should tell you what is locking things up
[22:05] <rufsketch1> How can I install 32-bit nvidia drivers on a 64-bit system?
[22:05] <Estragon> Kingsy: but I can't use it after server is down, can I ?
[22:05] <Estragon> I mean, server starts randomly to overload and I can't do anything else than hard reboot
[22:06] <Estragon> which mean I can't run top or anything else while the overload happens
[22:06] <Kingsy> Estragon: sure you can, atopsar :)
[22:06] <state> Hello! I have a /var/log/boot.log file that I just realized is overflowing due to a permissions error. I can't seem to find the right command to truncate it. Any advice?
[22:07] <state> I tried sudo sh -c "> /var/log/boot.log" to no avail
[22:07] <SparksIT2> how do configure /etc/fstab to mount a drive as its own drive and not part of the file system drive?
[22:08] <rufsketch1> SparksIT2: make it mount to /media/whatever
[22:08] <rufsketch1> ?
[22:08] <XMENDES> i cant acess my files on UPNP media server (on ubuntu)
[22:08] <Estragon> Kingsy: so, atop installed. What do you recommend next ?
[22:08] <XMENDES> im only can see the images files.. movies and others types.. i cant see
[22:08] <XMENDES> using ushare media server
[22:08] <rufsketch1> XMENDES: configure ushare to show you movie and other file types
[22:09] <XMENDES> how?
[22:09] <SparksIT2> rufsketch1: that makes it part of the file system drive, I want it to be its own drive
[22:09] <SparksIT2> rufsketch1: that makes it part of the file system drive, I want it to be its own drive
[22:09] <XMENDES> how i do this configuration on ushare?
[22:09] <rufsketch1> SparksIT2: what demarcates the two?
[22:10] <Estragon> Kingsy: should I just wait for the next overload ?
[22:10] <XMENDES> how i do this configuration on ushare? to show my movies. ???
[22:10] <rufsketch1> XMENDES: read ushare's manual
[22:10] <Kingsy> Estragon: did you get atopsar with that?
[22:10] <Lord_Zero_> holy netsplit
[22:11] <Estragon> Kingsy: yup
[22:12] <SparksIT2> rufsketch1:  don't understand? basicly I want to make the equivalent of say adding a G: drive in windows, C: drive has to OS files and G drive is seperate
[22:12] <netmk> SparksIT2: there's no such thing as a "drive" in linux, only mounts.
[22:12] <Kingsy> Estragon: wicked.. so keep an eye on it, make sure its collecting the data together, you can monitor the data as it collects and after a crash you can look back at the time of crash
[22:12] <rufsketch1> anyone know how to  install 32-bit nvidia drivers on 64-bit ubuntu?
[22:12] <rufsketch1> SparksIT2: okay, but like, why?
[22:13] <Estragon> Kingsy: seems very good, thanks
[22:13] <glosoli_> can I use ubottu somehow to check package version  ?
[22:13] <SparksIT2> I want to keep it consitant between Windows and Linux
[22:13] <netmk> SparksIT2: it really doesn't work that way.  "/" is the top mount level, and everything mounts underneath this.
[22:13] <Kingsy> atop will let you narrow down which application is using the most resources. If its apache for example. You can start narrowing down which apache service it is. Could be a php leak or something
[22:13] <Kingsy> Estragon: ^^
[22:13] <rufsketch1> SparksIT2: it's still consistent. You won't be able to see the difference.
[22:14] <Kingsy> Estragon: I also recommend using sar to monitor daily loads.. if there are any spikes you can look into those deeper with atopsar
[22:14] <rufsketch1> SparksIT2: there's no way to have a drive you can access that isn't mounted
[22:14] <rufsketch1> and if it's mounted, it has to be mounted somewhere
[22:14] <genii-around> !fhs | SparksIT2
[22:15] <rufsketch1> Does anyone know how to install 32-bit nvidia drivers on 64-bit ubuntu?
[22:15] <state> I might have gotten lost in that mass-exit, but I'm still curious on an easy and safe way to truncate the boot.log
[22:16] <Kingsy> soo.. anyone in here use the open radeon driver?
[22:18] <genii-around> rufsketch1: You can specify the architecture of a package by for instance: sudo apt-get install whatever:i386 for32-bit or sudo apt-get install whatever:amd64 for 64-bit. Although why you would want to do that install a 32bit driver into a 64bit OS is puzzling.
[22:18] <Estragon> thank you
[22:19] <intrader> Everyone thanks for help
[22:19] <|Anthony|> I still need some help with multiseat audio
[22:19] <Kingsy> man this channel is crazy today.. how can this many people be in and out..
[22:19] <SparksIT2> Okay, so I remonted the drive as /media/storage...but I don't have the rights to create folders via the File manager, it says only Root has access
[22:19] <|Anthony|> i don't have any hair left to pull out
[22:21] <genii-around> SparksIT2: The root filesystem of the drive will always be owned by root. For other users, make a folder in there and make it owned recursively by the user who is allowed to use it.
[22:22] <rufsketch1> I'm confused as to how no one knows how to do this? Is there really no way to install 32-bit nvidia drivers on 64-bit ubuntu? Are all OpenGL based programs in wine now completely off limits?
[22:22] <sblahhh> bonsoir ^
[22:22] <SparksIT2> So do I modify for all user to have all user to have Read\Write access/
[22:23] <|Anthony|> rufsketch1, nvidia binary includes 32bit compat files iirc
[22:23] <XMENDES> my port xxxx is closed on firewall to win.. how i open this??
[22:23] <Estragon> Kingsy: my hosting provider already monitors load but I have no indication on what process uses CPU, any idea on something to track heavy consuming processes ?
[22:23] <XMENDES> my port xxxx is closed on firewall to in.. how i open this??
[22:23] <D[4]ni> SparksIT2: try not to do that, if you don't really depend on it. rather set the appropiate user/group as owner
[22:23] <|Anthony|> rufsketch1, i know it asks if you want to install them if you install the binary from the nvidia download page
[22:24] <|Anthony|> !ufw | XMENDES
[22:24] <Kingsy> Estragon: we just discussed atopsar
[22:24] <D[4]ni> SparksIT2: you can still create a new group, set it as the owning group for your directory, and put all the users that need access to the folder in it.
[22:25] <Estragon> Kingsy: yup but  I have only seen "global" stats, does it provide per process stats too ?
[22:25] <Estragon> if so, sorry :)
[22:25] <rufsketch1> |Anthony|: Alright, I'll try re-installing then
[22:25] <rufsketch1> though I don't remember it asking me that
[22:25] <rufsketch1> |Anthony|: do you know how I can check if the 32-bit compat binaries are already installed?
[22:26] <beta> hi everyone im running ubuntu from a usb stick how can i make it a installation that i can run on any pc instead of just the iso file
[22:26] <Kingsy> Estragon: that is the whole point in atopsar. sar is global load. atopsar shows actual processes
[22:26] <Estragon> nice !
[22:26] <|Anthony|> rufsketch1, may i ask why you are looking into it? does something not work for you?
[22:27] <Estragon> thanks
[22:27] <rufsketch1> |Anthony|: yes. Trying to run Amnesia in wine (which has a platinum compatibility rating) returns this
[22:27] <rufsketch1> err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly (using GL renderer "GeForce GTX 660/PCIe/SSE2", version "1.4 (2.1.2 NVIDIA 304.43)").
[22:27] <zodiak> rufsketch1, what spec is you comp ? if you don't mind me asking
[22:27] <rufsketch1> zodiak: what sort of reply are you looking for?
[22:28] <genii-around> rufsketch1: You can specify the architecture of a package by for instance: sudo apt-get install whatever:i386 for32-bit or sudo apt-get install whatever:amd64 for 64-bit. Although why you would want to do that install a 32bit driver into a 64bit OS is puzzling.
[22:28] <rufsketch1> lspci?
[22:28] <zodiak> rufsketch1, preferrably details :) no no.. cpu/ram/gfx etc
[22:28] <genii-around> rufsketch1: In case it didn't get to you the first time due to netsplits
[22:28] <Kingsy> Estragon: np
[22:29] <rufsketch1> genii-around: wine only works with 32-bit OpenGL
[22:30] <rufsketch1> zodiak: intel core-i5 3570k
[22:30] <rufsketch1> zodiak: gtx660,  and 16GB RAM
[22:30] <YoungOwl> Ne
[22:30] <YoungOwl> b
[22:30] <zodiak> rufsketch1, aaahh.. k series.. fudge
[22:30] <YoungOwl> N
[22:30] <YoungOwl> Hello everyone
[22:30] <beta> maybe a tutorial??
[22:30] <rufsketch1> zodiak: ?
[22:30] <zodiak> rufsketch1, I was going to suggest xen, but, to get your card really working, you would need vt-d working
[22:31] <zodiak> rufsketch1, I can play borderlands 2 on the 3770, 7850 radeon no probs
[22:31] <rufsketch1> zodiak: xen? vt-d?
[22:31] <zodiak> better than wine by far
[22:31] <YoungOwl> #ubuntu 5.10
[22:31] <YoungOwl> -j #ubuntu
[22:31] <zodiak> rufsketch1, yeah, it's like virtualbox/vmware stuff
[22:32] <rufsketch1> zodiak: ah. What does that have to do with k-series?
[22:32] <zodiak> actually, virtualbox maybe good enough to play amnesia
[22:33] <YoungOwl> Quantos brasileiros no local
[22:33] <zodiak> rufsketch1, vt-d (which is required to pass the video card through) doesn't work on k class cpu's
[22:33] <rufsketch1> zodiak: ah, I see
[22:33] <zodiak> yeah.. but.. you maybe able to use virtualbox to play amnesia.. it's not a new game
[22:33] <rufsketch1> zodiak: welp. That decision to splurge sure came to bite me back in the ass :-P
[22:33] <zodiak> sorry :(
[22:34] <rufsketch1> zodiak: still, I kind of want wine to work for other reasons
[22:34] <rufsketch1> zodiak: do you know of any way to check if the 32-bit compat libraries are already installed?
[22:34] <rufsketch1> for nvidia?
[22:34] <zodiak> dpkg -l | grep -i i386
[22:35] <zodiak> assuming you are on 64bit linux here, of course, you shouldn't see too many of those i386 packages ;)
[22:35] <rufsketch1> zodiak: actually, I see approximately a fuckton of them
[22:36] <zodiak> rufsketch1, then you probably have them .. you looking for a specific one ?
[22:37] <rufsketch1> zodiak: http://pastebin.com/qCKnbD9H
[22:37] <rufsketch1> http://pastebin.com/qCKnbD9H
[22:37] <Wilson2B> hi all
[22:38] <rufsketch1> zodiak: the OpenGL ones
[22:38] <rufsketch1> oh man, this connection is absurd.
[22:38] <rufsketch1> sorry for how confusing this is getting
[22:38] <Wilson2B> Running 12.04 , and somehow the refresh graphics got mucked with.. not sure if it's a video driver or what.
[22:39] <Wilson2B> the background disapears until I move a window around
[22:39] <Wilson2B> even menu items dont show up.. have to move cursor over them a few times to see under neeth
[22:39] <Wilson2B> neath
[22:41] <Wilson2B> Running 12.04 , and somehow the refresh graphics got mucked with.. not sure if it's a video driver or what. the background disappears until I move a window around. even menu items dont show up.. have to move cursor over them a few times to see under neath.
[22:41] <beta> how can i have a livecd on a usb stick an also a ubuntu install on same usb??
[22:44] <beta> someone?
[22:45] <twitchie> beta, do you want multiple distributions on one usb thumb drive?
[22:46] <MonkeyDust> beta  use multisystem to that end, found on the pendrive site
[22:47] <Wilson2B> pendrivelinux.com
[22:47] <beta> nope just ubuntu 12.04
[22:48] <beta> i already have a usb ubuntu installation iso, now what i want its to keep changes and create an admin account
[22:49] <MonkeyDust> !persistent
[22:57] <BebopSteve> Is anyone familiar with docky config files?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky
[22:57] <blackshirt> bebopsteve, is resetting the config would bring it back?
[22:58] <BebopSteve> blackshirt, resetting the config?
[22:58] <kevin_> hi all. is there a way to "bounce" my usb hubs? sometimes, my attached usb devices hang. i disconnect the device, but lsusb still shows it connected, and reconnecting it (even to a different port) doesn't work. any thoughts?
[22:59] <blackshirt> bebopsteve, i don't really familiar with docky
[22:59] <Wilson2B> Running 12.04 , and somehow the refresh graphics got mucked with.. not sure if it's a video driver or what. the background disappears until I move a window around. even menu items dont show up.. have to move cursor over them a few times to see under neath.
[23:01] <twitchie> Wilson2B, remember downloading/updating any packages or changing any configs? What card are you running
[23:01] <blackshirt> wilson28, have you reinstall your graphic card driver?
[23:02] <Wilson2B> Im using Intel GMU 3150 chipset
[23:02] <Wilson2B> I havent reinstalled drivers yet.
[23:02] <Wilson2B> not sure how
[23:03] <Wilson2B> Intel released new drivers but they are not compiled..
[23:03] <GregoryFenton> Kevin`, I had a similar issue, read http://labby.co.uk/2011/12/usb-keyboard-disconnect-fix-ubuntu/ see if that helps you.
[23:03] <blackshirt> wilson28, are you mean on binary form or source form?
[23:03] <Wilson2B> source
[23:04] <Wilson2B> yet
[23:04] <Wilson2B> yes
[23:04] <GregoryFenton> Kevin`, the important part is the modprobe -r usbhid, wait, modprobe usbhid
[23:04] <Kurlatos> Buonasera
[23:04] <Wilson2B> I would like to reinstall with the latest Intel GMU 3150 drivers
[23:04] <Wilson2B> Linux support from intel sux
[23:04] <Wilson2B> they don't even host Linux drivers
[23:05] <Kurlatos> what you looking for?
[23:05] <blackshirt> wilson28, you can download them and compile them
[23:06] <BebopSteve> blachshirt oh ok, I appreciate the effort
[23:07] <twitchie> Wilson2B, you can get the drivers from here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Netbook+and+Tablet+Graphics&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+Graphics+Media+Accelerator+3150+%28Intel%C2%AE+GMA+3150%29
[23:07] <OerHeks> Wilson2B, try the x-swat ppa > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[23:07] <Dr_willis> I thought there was the xswat ppa's that included newer drivers. ;)
[23:07] <Pupuser> hi
[23:08] <blackshirt> hi pupuser
[23:12] <Kevin`> http://kwzs.be/~kevin/keyboard_shortcuts.png - anyone know how to prevent this from displaying whenever I use a shortcut involving the super key?
[23:12] <Wilson2B> thank you , I will try that link
[23:12] <FireStorms> Hey can someone help me I messed up the default Bluetooth sender on Ubuntu 10.04 and I just want to put some tunes on my phone for boring bus journey tomorrow
[23:13] <usr13> FireStorms: What kind of phone is it?
[23:13] <Kevin`> FireStorms: use the usb cable and figure it out later
[23:13] <FireStorms> usr13, blackberry curve, i've haven't even got a data cable to send them down the wire
[23:14] <lgc> Hi, what's a good VPN server to connect to?
[23:14] <usr13> FireStorms: I dono how you stand bluetooth, it is very slow.
[23:15] <usr13> FireStorms: How did you mess it up?
[23:15] <FireStorms> usr13, I know better than nothing though
[23:15] <FireStorms> usr13 It all happened when I installed Blueman
[23:16] <FireStorms> If I could just somehow reset bluetooth back to nomral
[23:17] <usr13> FireStorms: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/blueman-bluetooth-manager-for-ubuntu.html
[23:17] <Ganharb> Hey guys super nub question im sure ... when i run certian things in the terminal you know how you get the package configuration .. like an agreement ... but its like another layer inside of terminal .. and at the bottom it says " <ok> but its not clickable ... i need to accept theese things but i cant figure out how lol
[23:18] <jrib> Ganharb: I imagine using proper punctuation would make it much easier to understand what you are asking
[23:18] <usr13> FireStorms: You are probablyy better off to fix what you have.
[23:18] <VlanZ> GregoryFenton: sorry man, regarding the script in bin/bash that i asked before, how do i get it do write again the same file after "sleep 900" ?
[23:18] <jrib> Ganharb: try tab and space or enter
[23:19] <Ganharb> AAha! tab was the magic i needed...
[23:19] <Ganharb> tyty
[23:19] <FireStorms> usr13, thanks but that's the thing that ruined bluetooth for me :D
[23:19] <FireStorms> idk, guess I'll boot into Windows
[23:19] <GregoryFenton> VlanZ, that is what the while true; do; done code does
[23:20] <usr13> FireStorms: Well, maybe someone else here has experience with Bluethooth, but I don't.
[23:20] <FireStorms> usr13, me neither, but I appreciate you trying to help :)
[23:21] <VlanZ> GregoryFenton: oh now i got it!  it works!!!!!!
[23:22] <GregoryFenton> VlanZ, glad to be of service :)
[23:22] <usr13> FireStorms: You chould try uninstalling Blueman.
[23:22] <VlanZ> GregoryFenton: yeah thanks again man, very appreciated!!! :)
[23:22] <GregoryFenton> VlanZ, you may find that changing 900 to a lower amount will help if it still timeouts
[23:24] <VlanZ> GregoryFenton: yep, of course i've just did 10 seconds now to make sure i did it right :)
[23:27] <FireStorms> bon nuit
[23:34] <Danno_> is there anything in-built in ubuntu or anything i can download that would let me map the physical buttons on my tablet?
[23:35] <dssenthil> any experts in gSTM. i need a small help with Gnome Tunnel manager
[23:35] <jrib> Danno_: does anything show up when you press them in an « xev » window? (brb)
[23:36] <defaultro> ok folks, I'm in a bit of dilemma. I have a printer but doesn't have a driver for linux
[23:36] <goddard> im trying to install gnome-shell-extensions-apps-menu but im getting
[23:36] <goddard> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[23:36] <goddard>  gnome-shell-extensions-apps-menu : Depends: gnome-shell-extensions-common but it is not going to be installed
[23:36] <goddard> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[23:37] <|Anthony|> !pastebin | goddard
[23:37] <dssenthil> I want to make listen the tunneled port in my eth0 interface rather than 127.0.0.1 in gSTM. Any idea how to achieve this??
[23:37] <awc737> wtf is wrong with freenode today
[23:38] <Danno_> @jrib only with one of the buttons
[23:38] <goddard> |Anthony|: So any ideas?
[23:38] <veryhappy> is here also a room named linux mint or such thing?
[23:39] <zruty> How can I tell my eth0 is connected at 1 GB/s speed?
[23:39] <awc737> yeah there is veryhappy, but they have their own server which is dumb
[23:39] <edve> speedtest
[23:39] <awc737> they should be on freenode
[23:39] <jrib> Danno_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys try this
[23:39] <veryhappy> awc737: we ARE on freenode i think?
[23:39] <edve> or the valid driver
[23:40] <awc737> we are, you asked about linux mint
[23:40] <veryhappy> ok doesn't matter
[23:40] <awc737> linux mint does not have a # on freenode, they have their own server and #s
[23:40] <veryhappy> awc737: i just have a general problem: the linux mint installer won't start on linux mint
[23:40] <jrib> !mintsupport | veryhappy
[23:40] <edve> fuck linux mint
[23:40] <jrib> edve: please be nice
[23:40] <edve> hehe
[23:40] <veryhappy> lol whateever
[23:41] <edve> ok :(
[23:41] <jrib> veryhappy: *they* can help you in the channel for help with linux mint; we cannot
[23:41] <veryhappy> jrib: i don't understand you guys? the base is ubuntu, why can't you help then?
[23:41] <zodiak> zruty, mii-tool does that
[23:41] <jrib> veryhappy: because mint makes changes.  We don't know about them.  The mint channel does.
[23:42] <veryhappy> ok
[23:42] <zodiak> zruty, or ethtool
[23:42] <veryhappy> have a nice day. bye
[23:42] <zruty> zodiak: Thanks! I will try that
[23:42] <jrib> Danno_: the key that you saw pop up ok on xev should be ready to use with something like xbindkeys for example.  For the others, you'll have to follow the wiki instructions
[23:43] <Danno_> @jrib ill give it a go, cheers! :-)
[23:43] <Smackbook> so i guess if you spend $1000 on a new ultrabook and linux doesnt support the wifi drivers you have to use windows or throw it in the trash
[23:44] <jrib> Smackbook: do you have a support question related to ubuntu?
[23:44] <zruty> zodiak: Works perfectly! Thanks again!
[23:44] <zodiak> Smackbook, or buy a mini usb dongle
[23:44] <zodiak> zruty, not a problem
[23:45] <bloodriver> does anyone know an alternative Firefox add-on to 'Siphon'?
[23:46] <zodiak> no idea what siphon is
[23:46] <Scunizi_> I had a snafu and ended up uninstalling LibreOffice (current from site) and reverting back to the older repo version.  Now the save dialogue is GTK based and ugly (in KDE/Kubuntu).  How do I get the kde decorations back for it?  Everything else looks good..( Kubutnu 11.10)
[23:46] <Danno_> also, is there any way to make ubuntu treat a long press on the screen as a right click?
[23:47] <bloodriver> Siphon is a firefox add-on that syncs ALL of your addons
[23:47] <xangua> bloodriver: doesn't firefox sync already do that¿
[23:47] <Danno_> also, is there any way to make ubuntu treat a long press on the screen as a right click?
[23:48] <bloodriver> Use Siphon to install you fav addons from on computer to another
[23:48] <bloodriver> firefox syncs bookmarks, not add-ons
[23:48] <Dr_willis> if you are going to spend $1000 for a ultrabook for linux, you should do some research first.
[23:49] <bloodriver> Siphon server seems to be down
[23:49] <Dr_willis> Err.. Firefox I think synced addons also.
[23:49] <Smackbook> i guess nobody saw me complaining about my wifi not working since I got disconnected ;(
[23:50] <Dr_willis> This is a support channel. not a complaint channel.
[23:50] <Smackbook> well i'm looking for suggestions
[23:50] <Smackbook> if there are any other than give up on ubuntu
[23:50] <brightspark> Smackbook, normally when I install linux on a laptop, I need to connect using ethernet in order to download the restricted driver that enables my wifi
[23:50] <zodiak> Smackbook, again.. usb dongle
[23:50] <zodiak> all $8 of it
[23:50] <awc737> does cinnamon work in ubu?
[23:51] <Smackbook> zodiak: after spending a grand on an ultrabook i dont want a junky usb dongle hanging out
[23:51] <Smackbook> but i guess thats a solution
[23:51] <zodiak> it's TEENY
[23:51] <zodiak> like almost flush
[23:51] <Smackbook> hmm
[23:51] <xangua> awc737: you have instructions on it's site http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/ unsupported here
[23:51] <Smackbook> ok then i guess I will look into it
[23:51] <Dr_willis> awc737,  its not officially supported here.
[23:51] <Danno_> also, is there any way to make ubuntu treat a long press on the screen as a right click?
[23:52] <edve> Maybe you could google that...
[23:52] <awc737> is there anything for ubu that is supported, which isn't shitty UNity?
[23:52] <awc737> excuse my lang
[23:52] <edve> try gnome
[23:52] <Smackbook> awc737: gnome terminal
[23:52] <awc737> but also I don't mean a different desktop, I mean gnome based
[23:52] <Smackbook> i mean classic
[23:52] <bloodriver> i understand firefox addon sync is coming...but has it arrived yet?  which version?
[23:52] <awc737> gnome terminal?
[23:52] <Smackbook> theres also xfce and mint
[23:52] <awc737> i mean anything gtk3 base
[23:53] <edve> Try gnome , or if you have a low powered pc try Xubuntu
[23:53] <xangua> bloodriver: a long time ago
[23:53] <edve> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[23:53] <Smackbook> but gnome classic is the most usable
[23:53] <edve> i know
[23:53] <awc737> it's not a low powered pc, and I need gtk3 support
[23:53] <edve> then try mate
[23:53] <Smackbook> awc737: gnome-classic
[23:53] <bloodriver> how do i get addon sync to work?
[23:53] <Smackbook> its gnome2 interface built on gtk3
[23:53] <edve> it's an gnome 2 like environement
[23:54] <Smackbook> ubuntu has lots its majority share to Mate because of unity
[23:54] <Smackbook> from what I heard
[23:54] <edve> gnome classic < mate
[23:54] <induz> hello
[23:55] <edve> hi induz
[23:55] <Dr_willis> Mate is the kind of 'project' that could die off very quickly...
[23:55] <bloodriver> how do i get addon sync to work?
[23:55] <bloodriver> how do i get addon sync to work?
[23:55] <Smackbook> i have tried mate, xfce, and gnome classic and IMO gnome classic is the most supported, compatible, familiar one
[23:55] <Dr_willis> bloodriver,  i just used the sync feature of firefox to sync to my accouts and it synced everything with my windows machine,  and my phone.
[23:56] <Dr_willis> 'most supported' is no longer valid. and  'compatible' is also   debateable.
[23:56] <aguitel_> Dr_willis, why this?
[23:56] <Dr_willis> aguitel_,  why what..
[23:56] <bloodriver> gonna research this...be back
[23:56] <jhkier> Good day to you all :)
[23:56] <aguitel_> Dr_willis, mate die
[23:56] <Dr_willis> bloodriver,  i did notice that the default firefox in Ubuntu has that 'sync' buttons not shown on the default home page.
[23:57] <Dr_willis> aguitel_,  its a 3rd party fork. when the main devs get bored with it. it could die off very fast. Ive seen many other projects die off . Like the 'keep kde3 alive project' or some other projects ive seen over the last decade.
[23:58] <awc737> awesome
[23:58] <awc737> is this gnome-classic gnome?
[23:58] <awc737> i mean new*
[23:58] <awc737> i am surprised i never heard of gnome-classis, with how much i like ubu but despise unity
[23:58] <awc737> is it pretty comparable to linux mint mate?
[23:58] <FloodBot1> awc737: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <Smackbook> awc737: its the old gnome, built on the new gnome
[23:59] <Dr_willis> Unity is getting some very neat features in 12.10 and will only i imagine will get better with each new release.
[23:59] <boldfilter> Unity sucks dick
[23:59] <Smackbook> Dr_willis: unfortunatly unity will always be the tablet interface nobody ever wanted on their desktop
[23:59] <zodiak> xfce ftw :)