[08:05] <mandel> morning all!
[09:06] <JamesTait> Good morning, all! :)
[11:01] <gatox> good morning
[11:08] <mandel> gatox, morning!
[11:08] <gatox> mandel, hi
[12:51] <mandel|lunch> gatox, don't you have a holiday?
[12:52] <gatox> mandel|lunch, no.... i swap it for the lsat week of the year between the 24 and 01 because i had a day i wasn't covering there
[12:52] <dobey> hmm
[12:52] <gatox> hi dobey
[12:52] <dobey> holas
[12:53] <mandel> gatox, oh,ok, well I'm off to get some food
[12:53] <gatox> mandel, ack
[12:53] <gatox> so.... you you be known as mandel lunch again
[12:53] <gatox> jeje
[13:13] <verterok> aquarius: I think that should work, the problems we saw with ecryptfs are while syncing your ~/Private dir
[13:43] <ralsina> good morning!
[13:44] <gatox> ralsina, hi
[13:45] <ralsina> I am not really working this morning, but I am happy to do reviews if needed
[13:45] <ralsina> I will work today afternoon and tomorrow morning instead of all day tomorrow
[13:47] <dobey> is it a holiday in .ar?
[13:47] <gatox> ralsina, i have a couple of branches for review....... i can send it your way and you review the ones you want :P
[13:47] <gatox> dobey, yes
[13:48] <dobey> ah
[13:49] <gatox> ralsina, i have this branches for review: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-client-menuorder  -  https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-client/menu-separator/+merge/126006  -  https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-client-timer/+merge/125499
[13:49] <dobey> ralsina, gatox: can one of you open the u1 web music store from within windows and tell me if you still get the awful world store in there, or if you get more music to choose from?
[13:49] <gatox> dobey, i can do it..... but i didn't know how was before to compare
[13:50] <gatox> dobey, what should i see now?
[13:50] <dobey> gatox: open it in ubuntu too and see? https://one.ubuntu.com/music-store/
[13:50] <gatox> dobey, ah ok
[13:50] <dobey> gatox: i think .ar gets the world store, which has basically nothing in it
[13:55] <gatox> dobey, i see the same thing in ubuntu and windows: http://ubuntuone.com/0eFK8fIkCJO6s98duxyBzM
[13:57]  * dobey wonders what is not available on the world store
[13:59] <mandel> dobey, anything decent is not there
[14:00] <dobey> mandel: i wouldn't necessarily call all the stuff available in the US store, "decent"
[14:00] <gatox> dobey, also...... i don't know if this is the common behavior.... but i tried to buy some songs a couple of times from the killers, radiohead, etc..... and i always get just covers, not the real thing....... it never show me the real band... is that because it isn't in the music store or am i getting really few results?? i know from someone else in argentina who has the saaame problem
[14:00] <mandel> dobey, that not 'decent' stuff we do have :)
[14:00] <gatox> (in ubuntu)
[14:00] <dobey> gatox: it is because you're in argentina and the real ones aren't available on the world store
[14:01] <gatox> :S
[14:01] <dobey> gatox: if you VPN through the US or london or something, you can probably buy them :)
[14:01] <gatox> jeje
[14:02] <gatox> dobey, but then this is not a problem of windows (as you ask before)
[14:02] <karni> ralsina: I hear you may know something about broken Turkish locale?
[14:04] <ralsina> karni: *some*
[14:04] <dobey> gatox: no, someone on askubuntu asked why they were seeing different stores in windows and ubuntu
[14:04] <gatox> ahhhhh
[14:04] <dobey> gatox: but I'm in the US, so trying to see a non-US store is hard :)
[14:04] <ralsina> karni: turkish has one specific strange thing in that the uppercase of i is not I and viceversa
[14:05] <dobey> so i asked you for help, since you get the world store :)
[14:05] <karni> ralsina: I know. But are you talking about U1 client or server side?
[14:05] <ralsina> karni: that's in general
[14:05] <dobey> ROUND_CEiLiNG?
[14:05] <karni> ralsina: I know because I had that very bug in the Android files client, which I fixed.
[14:05] <ralsina> karni: those are different letters in the turkish locale
[14:05] <ralsina> dobey: right
[14:06] <ralsina> karni: ok, please state your problem and I will see if it falls within my limited knowledge of the turkish locale weirdness :-)
[14:06] <karni> ralsina: Aha. So you never said anything about the server side being broken, right? Just making sure I understood what Chad said.
[14:06] <ralsina> karni: I know next to nothing about our server side
[14:07] <karni> ralsina: Then my problem is solved, thank you :)
[14:07] <ralsina> karni: haha
[14:07] <ralsina> karni: happy that my ignorance solves things now :-)
[14:07] <karni> ralsina: :D
[14:08] <dobey> karni: i would expect the server side python code isn't running under the turkish locale
[14:09] <karni> dobey: I would expect that, I was asking if ralsina knew anything about the server breaking stuff. Such as performing .toupper() on node type somewhere.
[14:09] <ralsina> karni: it shouldn't, right
[14:09] <karni> ralsina: yeah. plus, the API returns lowercase "file", "directory".
[14:10] <ralsina> and lowercase turkish is much less weird
[14:10] <karni> hah!
[14:10] <ralsina> well, unless someone accidentally typed a  "i-without-dot" lowercase somewhere
[14:11] <mmcc> Hi folks… Happy monday everyone
[14:11] <ralsina> hi mmcc!
[14:20] <mandel> mmcc, I forgot what you needed from me in the fsevents daemon
[14:20] <mandel> mmcc, can you give me 5 mins and we can try and get things back on track :)
[14:20] <mmcc> mandel, so did I. Are you referring to an email?
[14:20] <mmcc> sure, take your time
[14:20] <mandel> mmcc, yes, but let me finish a small thing and we can chat about it
[14:21]  * mmcc goes to find the email he sent 
[14:37] <mmcc> I have to leave for about 2 hours, starting in about 1.5 hours, for a doctor's appointment. I'll stay up late to catch-up.
[14:50] <briancurtin> joshuahoover: have you heard of any other issues like this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-windows-installer/+bug/1050066
[14:50] <joshuahoover> briancurtin: looking...
[14:51] <joshuahoover> briancurtin: i believe we have from one user...but can't remember what the workaround/solution was...would need to see logs
[14:57] <alecu> hello all!
[14:57] <alecu> mandel: hi!
[14:57] <mandel> alecu, hello! I though you were on holidays!
[14:58] <alecu> mandel: right! but I forgot to tell you about it last friday
[14:58] <alecu> mandel: in fact, I clearly remember telling you that we should discuss some bits today
[14:58] <mandel> alecu, I saw beuno email and though you would also be :)
[14:58] <alecu> mandel: ah, ok.
[14:58] <mandel> alecu, yes, you did hehe
[14:58] <alecu> mandel: so, sorry anyways :P
[14:59] <mandel> alecu, no big deal
[14:59] <gatox> alecu, hi
[14:59] <mandel> alecu, I sent you a pm over twitter with a nice video :P
[14:59] <mandel> I'm not naked in the video, I promise
[14:59] <alecu> hola gatox! working today?
[14:59] <gatox> alecu, yap
[14:59]  * alecu is scared of opening that link....
[15:00] <gatox> alecu, nono..... look at it!! it's awesome :P
[15:00]  * gatox already saw it
[15:00] <dobey> me
[15:00] <gatox> me
[15:00] <mandel> me
[15:00] <alecu> not me, on nat holiday.
[15:00] <briancurtin> me
[15:00] <mmcc> me
[15:01] <mandel> gatox, that is what she said :P
[15:01] <gatox> mandel, jajajaja
[15:01] <gatox> ok, go for me
[15:01] <gatox> DONE:
[15:01] <gatox> Proposed a branch to enhance the order of the current transfers in the menu. Proposed a branch to add a Line separator between current and recent transfers. Made a couple of reviews.
[15:01] <gatox> TODO:
[15:01] <gatox> Finish with the branch to listen to syncdaemon state to keep the menu synced.
[15:01] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[15:01] <dobey> DONE: reviews, new icons in client-data
[15:01] <dobey> TODO: fix bugs
[15:01] <dobey> BLCK: None
[15:01] <gatox> No
[15:01] <gatox> dobey, go
[15:01] <dobey> oh, i was first :P
[15:01] <briancurtin> mandel
[15:01] <dobey> anyway, mandel go
[15:01] <mandel> DONE: fix some problems with the Q machine after updates. Fixed transition from the music preview to the payment preview.
[15:01] <mandel> TODO: Create a standalone app to test the payment preview. Clean code a little.
[15:01] <mandel> BLOCKED: no
[15:01] <gatox> dobey, not in my window :P
[15:01] <mandel> briancurtin, please
[15:02] <briancurtin> DONE: porting, reviews
[15:02] <briancurtin> TODO: porting, getting info on this 3.0.2b login issue
[15:02] <briancurtin> NEXT: mmcc
[15:02] <mmcc> DONE: startup wizard bug
[15:02] <mmcc> TODO: finish wizard fix, look at new sync bug
[15:02] <mmcc> BLOQ: no
[15:02] <mmcc> NEXT:
[15:02] <mmcc> no one?
[15:03] <mandel> EOM I think
[15:04] <gatox> yap
[15:04] <briancurtin> mmcc: you're talking about that cloud-to-computer bug, right? if so, put me on review for that - i looked at it a while ago but just put the temp fix in to move on with release
[15:04] <mmcc> briancurtin: yes I am. I'll do that
[15:06] <alecu> mandel: it looks very nice! So, the only thing remaining on your side is underlined links? great work!
[15:06] <mandel> alecu, yes :)
[15:06] <alecu> mandel: awesome!
[15:08]  * alecu gets back to family affairs.... see you all tomorrow!
[15:11] <mandel> alecu, laters!
[15:16] <mmcc> fg
[15:16] <mmcc> ugh
[15:29] <dobey> alright, time to get lunch. bbiab
[15:46] <mmcc> ok, here's the mp for that cloud-to-computer page bug: I had some issues on friday with confirming that it worked on ubuntu, but today I can't reproduce them, so I'd appreciate someone trying it out IRL on their ubuntu: https://code.launchpad.net/~mikemc/ubuntuone-control-panel/remote-folders-fix/+merge/126037
[15:47] <mmcc> also, briancurtin I added you specifically, I'm hoping it'll work for windows as well
[15:47] <mmcc> (I haven't tested on windows, not sure how to delete credentials there)
[15:47] <briancurtin> yep, will check out. at the time that bug was entered, it worked ok on ubuntu but it was broken on windows
[15:48] <mmcc> briancurtin: thanks. ugh to working before on ubuntu, I don't have a good idea for why that might be. would need to do some archaeology
[15:48] <briancurtin> mmcc: the easiest way to delete creds is in the devices tab of u1cp, just remove "this device". otherwise there's some registry key that i can never remember, but i just search for "ubuntu" until i find something that isn't an exe path
[15:49]  * mmcc files that away
[15:57] <mmcc> ok, gotta go for a doctor's appointment now, be back in a couple of hours…
[16:03] <mandel> EOD here, see you all tom!
[16:04] <ralsina> bye mandel!
[16:26] <ralsina> lunchtime for me, bbiab
[17:58] <briancurtin> quick u1cp branch if anyone has a minute, fixes windows test failures https://code.launchpad.net/~brian.curtin/ubuntuone-control-panel/share-links-windows-corrections/+merge/126063
[17:59] <gatox> briancurtin, on it
[18:03] <ralsina> briancurtin: got it
[18:07] <sameerynho> does ubuntu one offers any ssh or rsync support ?
[18:08] <ralsina> sameerynho: not currently
[18:10] <ralsina> sameerynho: although there is this -- http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2012/09/11/accessing-ubuntu-one-file-storage-via-ftp-from-any-os
[18:10] <sameerynho> ralsina: is there any limitation like removeing files after a period if time?
[18:11] <ralsina> sameerynho: no, the files will stay until you delete them
[18:13] <sameerynho> thanks
[18:36] <gatox> briancurtin, +1..... i executed the test with non unicode and unicode user name on windows
[18:36] <gatox> everything green :P
[18:36] <briancurtin> thanks!
[19:34] <ralsina> I'm of to have half-a-national-hliday I'll be back late tonight
[20:09] <gatox> eoding here :P
[20:09] <gatox> byeeeee, see you tomorrow
[20:27] <ralsina> briancurtin: could you do a quick response to https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+question/184611 please? Thanks!
[20:31] <briancurtin> ralsina: sure, looking
[20:45] <dobey> later all
[21:28] <ralsina> mmcc: looking at bug #1055791 it seems to me that we simply have a semantics problem with that option. We don't want to specify the "default" monitor, but just the preferred one. And then we want a per-platform list of monitors in order of "desirability" so that if we can't choose the one the user specified, we just try them all in some order.
[21:29] <mmcc> ralsina: agreed. right now they're in dictionaries, but they might as well be in arrays
[21:29] <ralsina> mmcc: exactly, just some order-preserving structure
[21:30] <mmcc> then just try them in order. it's only relevant for darwin, really
[21:30] <mmcc> I only noticed this because I had switched to a branch with a broken launchd daemon and couldn't start syncdaemon anymore
[21:31] <mmcc> I'll add a note to the bug to just use a list in order of preference
[23:20] <mmcc> if anyone's still around, here's a quicky review: https://code.launchpad.net/~mikemc/ubuntuone-client/fix-dummy-sync-menu/+merge/126125
[23:28] <ralsina> mmcc: got it
[23:29] <ralsina> mmcc: I don't get it, this removes the dummy class?
[23:32] <mmcc> ralsina: it removes a dummy class that was unnecessary. the syncdaemon.main code only instantiates an UbuntuOneSyncMenu. TransfersMenu is only referenced internally to the linux version , so there's no reason to have a dummy transfersmenu
[23:33] <mmcc> the bug was that the dummy syncmenu didn't have a start_timer() function, and the deletion was just a simplification