[06:32] <ailo-w> So, I got absolutely nothing done this weekend. Seems like here has been pretty quiet.
[07:47] <astraljava> I imported my mom's pictures from her camera and cell phone to her computer. That was it for me as far as IT goes.
[11:35] <ailo-w> astraljava: Sounds like a nice weekend then
[11:36]  * smartboyhw hopes for astraljava's full return:)
[11:36] <ttoine> hi
[11:37] <smartboyhw> Hi ttoine
[11:49]  * smartboyhw goes to post the half-spam message about Beta 2 testing or should he not?
[12:49] <ttoine> Just to tell that if lightworks is really released for Ubuntu at the end of the year (it is already open source released for windows) it will rocks the -video production
[12:49] <ttoine> meaning that we don't need anymore OpenShot nor Cinelerra
[13:10] <len-dt> ttoine, sounds good, maybe run that through Scott when he comes on or post on the list. My use of video apps is nil so far.
[13:10] <ttoine> len-dt: ok
[13:16] <len-dt> ttoine, just reading the stuff from the other channel. ailo seems to know more about it than me too... sounds like he is interested too.
[13:17] <ttoine> len-dt: http://www.lwks.com/
[13:17] <ttoine> just have a look by yourself
[13:25] <smartboyhw> Hi scott-work
[13:40] <smartboyhw> Hi ailo-w 
[13:40] <smartboyhw> wb actually
[13:49] <ttoine> scott-work: hi
[13:50] <ttoine> scott-work: http://www.lwks.com/ just have a look, it is open source released this year for windows, and is scheduled for Linux for the end of the year !
[13:56] <scott-work> hi smartboyhw
[13:56] <smartboyhw> :)
[14:31] <ailo> openshot to me is a great tool for non experts
[14:31] <ailo> And it filles a workflow task for people who want to edit things quickly and put it up on Youtube
[14:32] <ailo> But, surely, Lightworks should make life livable for video experts
[15:10] <scott-work> ailo: do you they have a linux version available yet? i might be misremembering, but it seemed like they didn't have one yet months ago
[15:12] <smartboyhw> scott-work, it is coming at the end of the year. I think
[15:12] <scott-work> hmmm, i look forward to seeing how it works, especially compared to kdenlive
[15:16] <ailo> scott-work: All I know is that it's been cooking for a while, but from what ttoine says, it's not far from being released
[15:16] <ailo> steam is another welcome addition to Linux, all though, not open source. And a totally different subject
[15:19] <ailo> smartboyhw: I didn't misunderstand you. From reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/QuantalTestcaseUpdates/UbuntuStudioTestcase there are items that we don't need to check for Ubuntu Studio
[15:19] <ailo> And as a first step, I'd like to remove those items, or mod them for our case
[15:20] <ailo> The simpler we can make it, the easier it will be to get people to do the testing too, so that is always in my mind
[15:21] <smartboyhw> ailo: Remove them I don't mind:) 
[15:23] <ailo> smartboyhw: It was not criticism in my post. Just putting my thoughts about it. I could do some editing on that subject, but I haven't had any hand at desktop customization yet(or very little), so it would be better if someone else who did would do those edits
[15:23] <ailo> i.e. len-dt, or scott-work 
[15:24] <smartboyhw> desktop customization...len-dt you good at this?
[15:24] <scott-work> lightworks for linux currently schedule for Oct 30th: http://www.lwks.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=12&id=1983&limit=6&limitstart=30&Itemid=81
[15:24] <scott-work> fourth post down
[15:25] <smartboyhw> Let's wait then
[15:25] <scott-work> i should say that was an _alpha_ scheduled for Oct 30th
[15:26] <scott-work> smartboyhw: i am curious if lightworks will be in the repos, it certainly would not have been previously, but i suppose changes to policy and the "app store" mentality of software-center might allow lightworks to be included now or soon
[15:27] <smartboyhw> Ooh!
[15:27] <scott-work> alhtough one of the comments in that thread mentioned that they wanted to experience between ubuntu and windows versions of lightworks to be identical...that is good news to me
[15:27] <smartboyhw> :)
[15:28] <ailo> scott-work: len-dt: I was airing the idea of customizing xubuntu as little as possible some time ago, for the sake of economic maintenance. This is one situation where that would simplify things a bit. It's not a huge deal for me, but just a thought. Seems logic to me, to put all of the focus on the multimedia applications, and do as little customization to Xubuntu as possible.
[15:30] <scott-work> ailo: i completely agree with staying as close to xubuntu for exactly the same reasons
[15:31] <ailo> scott-work: I guess our customization is pretty sparse at this moment? nautilus, gnome-system-monitor 
[15:32] <smartboyhw> ailo, scott-work, len-dt: You continue with the discussion,and for the testcase send an email to the dev list on what conclusion you guys have. I need to go to sleep now. 
[15:32] <ailo> smartboyhw: Sleep well. Good work on the test cases
[15:33] <smartboyhw> :) That is what earns me being a Testcase Admins:) cya everyone:) continue tmr:)
[15:38] <scott-work> ailo: aye, that and the distributor logo and a few icons, i think len-dt was talking about adding a new icon package though
[15:42] <ailo> Ok, so in the case of nautilus, we do need to do some testing. Other than that, I don't see anything in the regular desktop environment we need to do, other than our own custom starters in the menu.
[15:43] <ailo> scott-work: How about the volume applet? I remember there was something about that. Right now, I'm not seeing it at all
[15:44] <scott-work> ailo: good point, we probably do need to check that. we might need some input from astraljava to understand what exactly we might check
[16:54] <ailo> scott-work: Apparently, the volume applet has become functional again, and from what I can find in ubuntustudio-default-settings, we don't have anything custom for it, more than it bein in our seeds
[16:55] <ailo> Two packages: indicator-sound-gtk2 and indicator-sound
[16:55] <ailo> Well, as dependencies or whatever. Haven't really checked the seeds
[17:04] <ailo> Yep, it's all there
[17:04] <ailo> astraljava: What was the deal with the volume applet and the mixer for 12.04? Do we have custom code for it?
[21:27] <len-dt> ailo_, re. icons... I am not suggesting a full icon package, just icons to cover our custom menu needs. Right now we are using whatever looks nice from the icons that are there already.
[21:28] <len-dt> any of those might change names or vanish. So for insurance we should have our own icons for *desktop/*directory files we make up.
[21:32] <len-dt> Hmmm, no new ISO today.