[11:38] <smartboyhw> Hi sunson:)
[11:38] <sunson> guys, openshot rocks. I found the multi-track concept very intuitive and amazing. I also like the fact that we can simply overlay any image or .svg "text" to achieve an endless variety of stuff I want.
[11:38] <sunson> smartboyhw: hi :)
[11:39]  * smartboyhw is happy since that the ubuntustudio-video didn't include the wrong apps
[11:42] <cfhowlett> sunson: Openshot rocks
[11:43] <sunson> btw, is there an intention to have ubuntustudio give out all apps linked against jack? I use jack all the time but find it difficult to stop it and get pulseaudio back just to play some youtube video.
[11:44] <smartboyhw> ailo-w: You are best to answer sunson's question lol
[11:50] <ttoine> on app to follow is lighworks. open source released this year for Windows, and release scheduled at the end of the year for LInux
[11:50] <ttoine> It will kill cinerella
[12:11] <ailo-w> sunson: We don't code the applications, so it is up to each software project to include jack support.
[12:11] <ailo-w> sunson: However, qjackctl on Ubuntu Studio is set to use pulseaudio-module-jack by default
[12:11] <ailo-w> Which means, you can connect pulseaudio to jack
[12:13] <ailo-w> And in this way, all pulseaudio applications can connect to jack
[12:13] <ailo-w> sunson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro/1204#The_Pulse_Audio_to_Jack_Bridge_-_using_both_at_once
[12:14] <ailo-w> ttoine: That sounds awesome. Also, steam is releasing a version for Linux next month (probably not full support)
[12:15] <ailo-w> Not really related, but it should make a huge difference for the Linux platform in the long run
[12:20] <ttoine> sunson, ailo-w: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation#Pulse_Audio
[12:20] <ttoine> the three way to work with or without pulse audio and jack
[12:23] <contrapunctus> Hey folks...I downloaded the UbuntuStudio 12.04.1 DVD ISO through the official torrent...and LiveUSB boots me into BusyBox. Internet search inconclusive. Please help.
[12:25] <sunson> ailo-w: ttoine: ah, didn't know that. thanks. I don't use ubuntu studio. For all practical purposes, I have an unrelated variant of ubuntu (edubuntu) and I see that jack will fail to start when flash is running.
[12:25] <ailo-w> sunson: You'll need to make sure nothing is grabbing the card when you start jack
[12:26] <ailo-w> If you have pulseaudio-module-jack installed, and you start jack with dbus support (default in qjackctl + you need jackd2), pulseaudio will make connections to jack
[12:26] <ailo-w> You still need to set pulseaudio to use jack inputs and outputs respectively
[12:26] <ailo-w> ...after starting jack
[12:27] <ailo-w> contrapunctus: Sure it's unofficial? I don't know what LiveUSV is, but you should be fine creating a live usb stick with unetbootin
[12:28] <ailo-w> LiveUSB*
[12:28] <contrapunctus> ailo-w: That's just what I did. =S
[12:29] <ailo-w> Ah, I read unofficial. Anyway, busybox?
[12:29] <contrapunctus> Aye, BusyBox shell.
[12:30] <contrapunctus> FWIW, this is a Toshiba notebook purchased around a year ago, Intel i5, 3 gigs of RAM.
[12:30] <ttoine> sunson, I don't if all in the page I give you the link will work with Edubuntu. But if you follow that, most of the time it should work
[12:30] <ailo-w> contrapunctus: And this is at first boot?
[12:30] <contrapunctus> Aye.
[12:30] <contrapunctus> Wait, what does that mean?
[12:31] <ailo-w> contrapunctus: First time you boot into the live usb stick. Do you see a menu with choices for testing or installation?
[12:32] <contrapunctus> Ah. Yeah, first boot. The unetbootin menu appears, and the only options are 'default' and 'back'.
[12:32] <ailo-w> sunson: You'll probably not have realtime privilege
[12:32] <ailo-w> contrapunctus: Sounds like something is wrong with the stick you've made.
[12:33] <ailo-w> sunson: So, you'll want to check into that too
[12:33] <ailo-w> contrapunctus: Normally, you should see some options for either trying the live image, or installing it
[12:34] <ailo-w> contrapunctus: You could double check with another computer + another usb stick
[12:34] <ailo-w> And maybe check about the unetbootin version, if anyone else has had problems with it
[12:34] <contrapunctus> ailo-w: I fear so too...but I've made many sticks using that very unetbootin...although I admit it does randomly mess up sometimes. I also tried Linux Mint's startup disk tool, but it quit with 'failed to install bootloader' -.-
[12:35] <contrapunctus> ailo-w: Sure, Ima try that and post back. Thanks! :D
[12:35] <ailo-w> contrapunctus: The Ubuntu Studio live image may not be supported by all usb creators, but so far, I've never failed with unetbootin
[12:36] <contrapunctus> ailo-w: I see.
[16:22] <UberMusik> Hi, so, why does Ubuntu Studio make it almost impossible to resize a window by dragging in the corner? The hover-hotspot for turning the mouse cursor into the corner-drag icon is like 4 pixels wide .. it takes me forever to get it … even surgeons would have a hard time with it .. what's up with that? (12.04)
[16:28] <ailo> UberMusik: That's because of the theme being used. Yes, a bit of work
[16:30] <ailo> UberMusik: One way to do it is to use: Alt + right Click + drag
[16:31] <ailo> For moving windows, I often use: Alt + Left click + drag
[16:31] <ailo> Alt + F8 will let you resize only using the keyboard
[16:31] <ailo> Using arrow keys
[16:33] <ailo> There's also a "Resize" option in the window menu, if the window is not maximized
[16:34] <ailo> Would be nice to have at least a big corner where to resize apps, like on Mac. Exists for some Gtk applications
[16:47] <UberMusik1> ailo: thanks .. alt-right-click will do … would rather not have to use a hotkey, but now that i know what it is, i'll use it ..  i manage lots of terminal windows, so i need to move and resize often ...
[16:52] <ailo> UberMusik1: You might want to try something like awesome for that. No window borders at all, but there are some great ways to control windows with key commands
[16:52] <ailo> If you don't often use a mouse, it's pretty fast
[16:53] <ailo> I think it has some way of auto-placing windows
[16:53] <ailo> Perhaps you can do that with XFCE too, don't know
[16:53] <ailo> Multiple desktop spaces is something I always use
[16:56] <ailo> UberMusik1: gnome-terminal has a resize button in the lower right corner..
[16:56] <ailo> Or, handle
[23:48] <SUBSTANC3> len-dt I'm installing right now
[23:48] <SUBSTANC3> ubuntu studio
[23:48] <SUBSTANC3> ;D
[23:48] <SUBSTANC3> IT WORKS!!
[23:48] <SUBSTANC3> and it's not formatting my flash drive lol
[23:54] <SUBSTANC3> restarting now...