[01:29] which folder can I add emblenen? for thunar [02:58] hey [02:58] i need some help with a dual boot [02:58] i installed windows into a partition [02:59] configured windows [02:59] now it's time to reinstall grub [02:59] so i can select xubuntu [02:59] go into terminal [02:59] sudo grub [02:59] command not found [02:59] i figured im used grub2 [02:59] so that should work [02:59] also [02:59] !grub2 [02:59] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [02:59] im on the liveCD [03:00] i refer to that, the 'recovery from live CD' part... or recover after installing windwos [03:00] if it tells me [03:00] to mount [03:00] sda5 [03:00] (whre xubuntu is) [03:00] ive already done it [03:00] and it tellems [03:00] oxxxy: it tells you how to reinstall grub [03:00] its not in /etc/fstab [03:01] oxxxy: i have always refered to that link... the part about reinstalling from a live cd.. thats what you are using? [03:01] yes [03:02] oxxxy: whats not in fstab? if fstab is borked, that'll be differnt from a grub issue [03:02] alright [03:02] oxxxy: you can pastebin any errors you are having [03:02] um... [03:02] i could just tell you [03:02] it's not a lot [03:02] im trying to mount sda5 [03:02] oxxxy: id like to see a pastebin, but do what you like [03:02] oxxxy: why? [03:03] why are you trying to mount sda5? is that from the guide? [03:03] because sudo grub-install /dev/sda [03:03] returns [03:03] oxxxy: are you having an error in mounting? [03:03] yes [03:03] okay [03:03] guys [03:03] cool down [03:03] explaining here [03:03] sudo grub-install /dev/sda [03:03] oxxxy: guys?... its just you and i [03:03] returns [03:03] /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?). [03:03] so i check gparted [03:04] it says unallocated [03:04] and lists my drive [03:04] which is wierd [03:04] so i tried to mount my ubuntu partition [03:04] and that returns [03:04] oxxxy: i would just install grub... to the drive... windows installed to the mbr [03:04] !enter [03:04] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [03:04] mount: can't find /dev/sda5/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab [03:05] im trying to install it [03:05] but it wont go [03:05] it?... grub? [03:05] yes [03:05] give me a line of code [03:05] that isn't sudo grub-install /dev/sda [03:07] which folder can I add emblenen? for thunar [03:08] maybe you would prefer https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub, "the graphical way" oxxxy [03:09] erkan^: you'll have to elaborate... i dont find that in a search... maybe its a typo? [03:09] where is boot-repair.. i dont see it [03:09] and run is turning up nothing [03:10] oxxxy: i would try installing it in the live environment if i didnt see it.. ive always used the other method [03:10] holstein, typo? [03:10] okay [03:11] erkan^: when i search "emblenen", i dont find anything.. so you'll need to elaborate on what that is... i was asking also maybe it was a typo? [03:11] a wait [03:14] holstein thank you [03:14] this seems to be working [03:14] http://www.picpaste.com/pics/emblenen-sAMgzntQ.1348456408.png, holstein . i want add self picto in emblems. which folder can i add self emblens [03:15] do you understand me, holstein ? [03:15] erkan^: more than before... i would just right click and change the icon.. is that not what you want? [03:16] erkan^: you want to add custom emblems? [03:16] I want another emblen than standard emblem, holstein [03:16] yes [03:17] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1830 is what i fine erkan^ .. not sure how current that information is [03:17] do you know how? [03:17] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 1830 in general "Allow to add custom emblems" [Enhancement,Assigned] [03:17] ok i go read [03:18] erkan^: i found that here http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/documentation/faq ..the section on emblems... seem to be "in process" to allow custom emblems [03:19] How can I add new emblems? [03:19] It's on the move, see bug 1830. [03:19] Launchpad bug 1830 in linux-source-2.6.10 (Ubuntu) "initrd 2.6.12 series haven't atiixp ide module (kernel panic at boot)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1830 [03:19] erkan^: right, thats what i read... that its "in progress"... you cant do it yet [03:20] erkan^: i would try and locate the emblems directory and try adding one... or editing one that is there [03:21] I cannot find "mytheme" for /usr/share/icons, holstein [03:23] erkan^: i would just search around... ls and cd til you find what you are looking for [03:24] gthumb, holstein ? [03:25] /usr/share/gthumb? [03:25] erkan^: i would search by the names of some of the emblems i see [03:28] I cannot find, holstein [03:32] erkan^: i dont know what they are named, but they are somewhere [03:34] yes very difficult find, holstein [03:37] Benedikt Meurer have maked thunar, holstein [03:41] erkan^: /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/emblems/emblem-default-symbolic.svg [03:44] erkan^: im not sure.. im sure they are somewhere, though im not sure if thunar would notice you changing them [03:44] i cannot find a folder "scalable" [03:44] erkan^: the bug says "feature on the way" so i would just follow that bug report, or use a filemanager that supports the functionality you seek [03:45] good luck!.. im out for a bit.. [03:45] ok thx for helping, holstein [03:58] i added the CPU monitor to the lil pop up launcher at the bottom of the screen and now I cant get rid of it. cant move it, right click and left click do nothing. any ideas on how to remove the CPU monitor? [05:58] xrs1: use panel settings -> items [06:00] thanx [06:00] sorry for delay but I just woke up :P [06:02] so long as it gets answered, does it really matter? [06:41] Hello,i want to swich from ubuntu to xubuntu. what is the difference between "desktop" and "alternate"? have i to do something to make the instalation cd bootable or not and can i use a cd or do i have to use a dvd? [06:57] Guido1: you only need the CD if you want to reinstall, you could just install the xubuntu-desktop package and remove the ubuntu-desktop package [07:01] Guido1: to answer your other questions: see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/12.04.1/release/ for what the difference between the desktop and alternate CDs are; you don't need to do anything to make it bootable, just make sure to burn the .iso as an "image" rather than creating a CD with the .iso listed as a file; and you don't need a DVD, CD's will work fine, but DVD's will work fine too [07:31] any idea on how to enable/disable services in xubuntu ? [07:34] Preferences -> Session [07:35] ...wher's :( preferences ? [07:36] Main Menu -> Setttings -> Settings Manager [07:36] XATRIX: actually it's settings -> sessions and startup [07:36] Session and startup [07:36] sorry for that :P [07:39] no , can't find iBUS daemon service in autostart menu [07:47] still need to enable iBUS for runlevel or so [07:48] cause when i start my laptop, it doesn't start [07:49] so i have alt-shift instead of ctrl+shift [07:54] XATRIX: in the settings you should see 'keyboard input methods' [08:06] yes, and i use it [08:06] but the iBUS didn't start automatically [08:06] that's why i guess it didn't corrent my input methods on fly === xubuntu is now known as Guest52361 === Transfusion is now known as Strinteger [09:44] hello, i just tryed xubuntu - not instaling and could find seamonkey with the software center, but as i wanted to see more information i got an error. can i instal seamonkey on xubuntu? [09:46] !info seamonkey [09:46] Package seamonkey does not exist in precise [09:46] !find seamonkey [09:46] Found: enigmail, xul-ext-calendar-timezones, xul-ext-gdata-provider, xul-ext-lightning [09:47] I haven't heard of seamonkey [09:48] well_laid_lawn, ubottu: it's a great broweser and mailprograme and i like it a lot. i want to keep it as i move from ubuntu to xubuntu [09:48] if it's available for ubuntu it's there for xubuntu [09:48] !bot [09:48] Hi! 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[10:00] i also have another question. i wanted to test xubuntu on another computer, but it just started into ubuntuhowever i told it to start from the CD. can the reason be that i don't have enough space on the harddisk? i thought it wil just run on CD and not move something to the harddisk [10:00] (into ubuntu,not xubuntu) [10:00] It doesn't move stuff to the hard disk [10:01] you need to set the bios to boot from the cd [10:01] you need to set the bios to boot from the cd first [10:01] as far as i know the bios is set to boot first from cd [10:02] if that's right and the cd is ok it would've booted into the live cd [10:02] thats whats iritating mee [10:02] tried the cd on another computer? [10:02] yes, there it worked [10:02] tried a different live cd on that computer? [10:03] on the computer with the problem? yes, thats how i instaled ubuntu [10:05] I don't know what else to say... [10:06] seems strange [10:06] yes, i can check the bios again, but i'm quite sure about it [10:07] on the HD i only have a bit mor then 800 MB leeft so that was my idea [10:08] nahh the live cd does nothing with the hdd [10:10] i will chek the bios again [10:15] cd is the first and it seams to take a bit longer until the grup loader apears === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [11:20] hello, im using xubuntu with a live usb with persistant data storage. i was wondering how i could stop it from automatiacly logging in as the live user and to show the login promt at boot [11:24] i think i found it :D [11:37] it did not work, i still need a way to stop the xubuntu user from automaticly logging on on boot with my live usb [11:38] slash0mega: well first is the live usb using persistence ? [11:38] yes it is [11:39] i used the pindrive linux app [11:40] hi, what's the difference between "Mark for removal" and "Mark for complete removal" in synaptics? [11:42] first only uninstal it from system, second remove all packages from computer [11:43] XATRIX: the latter does --purge [11:43] ok [11:43] XATRIX: deletes configuration and data files too [11:44] XATRIX: for example, if you have mysql-server installed, then the first will only remove the server binaries, while the second will also delete any databases you have created [11:45] sounds great [11:45] wanna remove xfce dictionary [11:46] slash0mega: have a look in sudo gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [11:47] slash0mega: well use leafpad not gedit [11:47] and gksu :) [11:47] lol, cut and paste hell [11:49] i am not in the sudoers file.... [11:51] slash0mega: well, you probably already root, just look in the file. see fi it has Autologin = true [11:51] slash0mega: and do you remember your password? [11:51] yep [11:52] got there vie gui, found autologin user [11:53] do i just blank out the line? [11:53] slash0mega: I'd back up the file first, then delete that file, but you could lose the pendrive if this does not work [11:53] file/line*** [11:54] slash0mega: ^^ [11:54] then its a good thing its still a brand new install :) [11:54] wait, do you mean lose the hardware, or the os [11:55] the OS, we bread the login there is no way to fix it on a pendrive. unless you have another ubuntu machine to open it with [11:55] break* [11:56] i do have a laptop running ubuntu, was going to replace it with xubuntu if i like it enoghe :) [11:56] slash0mega: then you golden, break away ;) [11:58] hello.. i use 11.04 and i want to upgrade to 12.04..but when i go to the update manager the only option is 11.10...why 12.04 isnt there? [11:59] So i just delete the file after i back it up right? [12:00] slash0mega: no, just the line in the file that says autologin , and i create a adminuser before i restart [12:00] hello.. i use 11.04 and i want to upgrade to 12.04..but when i go to the update manager the only option is 11.10...why 12.04 isnt there? [12:00] bonno, there are updates and upgrades [12:00] i allready got a admin user, so i shall delete the line, then restart. be back in a bit [12:01] er, i think im read only [12:01] yeah..so?! [12:03] bonno the clue is in the name "update manager"!!! [12:04] yeah!? [12:04] slash0mega: you probably need to gksu that [12:04] slash0mega: you probably dont have permissions to write to the file [12:05] how can i give myself the permisions [12:06] slash0mega: gksu normally does it for me? [12:07] slash0mega: gksu leafpad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [12:08] sudo is still giving me issues [12:10] "the uderlying authorization mechanism (sudo) dose not allow you to run this program. contact the system administrator. [12:11] slash0mega: try a "su" [12:13] authentication failure... i tried blank, which works on some passwords, my user password, and "root" [12:15] slash0mega: go to your ubuntu machine an open up the pen drive(dont boot the pendrive) and edit it from there [12:16] ok, ill give that a try, ill open up this irc on another machine [12:17] I'm off for a bit to buys some blank DVD's to back up this windows7, bbl [12:23] ok, i am in ubuntu [12:25] how can i find the file? [12:30] Um, what file? [12:52] slash0mega: mount the pendrive, it'll be on that, in /mnt/*whatever*/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [13:31] any thoughts on why my laptop's battery, after fully charged and being at 68% automatically shuts off? [13:31] without a warning? [13:32] drop the last qm [13:34] martinphone: I would guess because the battery is shagged and you not getting accurate % reports [13:36] the battery is supposed to last 90 minutes, yet this last time it went off after 15 minutes, and it was fully charged, is this concurrent with your theory? [13:37] martinphone: how old is your battery, I've got a 6yo battery that shows 100% and shuts off immediately [13:37] 2 years old [13:37] its a li-ion [13:38] martinphone: thats consistent with a shagged battery :) [13:39] martinphone: even the hi spec'd ones only give 3,000 charges expected life [13:39] i havent even charged it 100 times [13:40] does having 2 DDR 2 GiB cards instead of 1 increase consumption? [13:41] martinphone: would think just by a tiny fraction , memory not a big consumer [13:42] energy full design is currently double of energy full, which most probably means the battery is f*kkked [13:42] am i wrong? [13:43] martinphone: I'm a cheepo so normally leave the battery in the wrapping, you is 2 yo, time to get a new one if you need long battery life [13:44] yours* [13:44] can overheating be a cause? Iit happened while I had the machine on my knees, but with some heat exits covered with my pants [13:45] another 90 qds to spend [13:45] martinphone: batteries just dont last, no other cuse needed [13:46] are sony batteries better than clevo ones? [13:46] dont know [13:47] if seller tells battery should last 90mins, you're lucky to have 60 with light usage and 30 with heavy [13:48] if it's old machine, keeping it always connected to charge doesn't do good for battery [13:54] god, wish this win7 stuff would end so i can get on to installing xubuntu [14:14] hope that the right/bottom window resize area gets made a bit bigger in 12.20 [14:14] 12.10 you mean [14:15] :-[ [14:16] you don't like alt-right-drag? [14:23] Sysi: thank you, did not know about that one [14:24] What alt right [14:24] SkippersBoss_, alt right drag [14:25] Sysi: me? I dont like key-board shortcuts to use a UI for some reason. [14:25] onlyy have an alt on the lft [14:25] UI/GUI i mean [14:25] SkippersBoss_, right drag <----- [14:25] so that does not work here [14:25] SkippersBoss_, sure it does [14:25] drag to the Right [14:26] sort of lost all the sarcasm there :-( [14:26] i m clearly in need of more caffeine [14:26] :-( [14:27] waits for 3rd backup DVD to finish [14:27] forget i ever said something guys [14:29] recon_tv: you need to make greybird-accessibility fork, devs probably won't [14:33] Sysi: actually, it's already there in Default 4.0 :) [14:35] many themes have wider borders, but if you want the greybird look [14:36] Sysi: I just want it to work :) [14:49] hi everyone :) [14:49] hey [14:50] just wanted to say hi. i'm installing xubuntu now. i hope i'll become 100% xubuntu user [14:50] and thanks for saying hey [14:51] hehe [14:51] hi erkan^ [14:51] nice to see a friendly name here [14:52] i bookmarked here. i hope it wont disappear after the installation [14:52] see you guys. i talked too much. take care :) [15:02] who was xubuntu563, torax ? [15:15] erkan^: some stranger [15:21] yes i think too, torax :/ [15:42] I need an alternative of FrontPage for linux, is seamonkey as easy as it? [15:43] going only by the name, and having no idea what "frontpage" is, i say try scribus [15:44] scribus = text editor ? [15:44] after googling... ive used seamoney for wysiwyg html... i liked kompozer [15:44] seamoney or seamonkey ? [15:45] with a k [15:45] seamonkey = web suite [15:45] a k ? [15:45] monKey [15:45] apm1: scribus is more of a publishing suite [15:45] apm1: i typo'd what Sysi typed correctly [15:46] holstein, libre freesoftware ? [15:46] hmm, I'll tell actual needy one to check out if he likes either of those [15:46] Sysi, say what ? [15:47] http://www.kompozer.net/ ive used this on OSX, windows and linux [15:47] if *I* do html I use vim, frontpage looked complicated [15:47] apm1: libre free? [15:47] libre as in free as in freedom :) [15:47] apm1: sure,... whats the question? [15:48] Sysi, try blue fish it's awsome [15:48] holstein, is scribus libre software ? [15:49] http://www.scribus.net/canvas/Scribus "Scribus is an Open Source program that brings professional page layout to Linux/UNIX, Mac OS X, OS/2 Warp 4/eComStation and Windows desktops..." [15:50] holstein, i didn't ask if it's "opensource" or not i asked if it's "free software " :P [15:52] holstein, sorry just realized i was trolling you unintentionally , i apologize it won't happen again === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [17:12] Hello, anybody that can help me with an issue with my usb microphone? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [17:18] Cal: i would check out the troubleshooting page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting [17:18] thanks, I'll look at it [17:19] i would first open a terminal and check in lsusb for it.. then i would run aplay -l and arecord -l [17:19] i would then install pavucontrol and open that and/or alsamixer [17:19] ye I got that already [17:19] It's listed in lsusb [17:20] everything is on 100% in alsamixer [17:20] and the AK5370 thing listed as my microphone in lsusb is chosen in pavucontrol [17:20] Cal: arecord -l is the important one.. if you dont see it there, you wont hear it... [17:21] k [17:21] it's there [17:21] card 1: AK5370 usb Audio [17:22] Cal: then i would double check its not just muted.. maybe try and confirm that its functioning properly on another machine where you know it works... then, you can start trying different alsa and kernel versions. i usually test these via live CD's [17:23] aye, it works, i've been using kubuntu for a few months [17:23] with the same microphone [17:24] Cal: sure, but what version of kubuntu? the kernel and alsa versions can make or break functionality [17:25] 12.04, same as here [17:25] Cal: both up to date? [17:25] yes [17:26] then, id say its just a simple little tweak, or something easy that we are overlooking... [17:26] mhm [17:26] alsamixer? [17:26] I have it open right now in terminal [17:26] all capture devices are at 100% [17:27] cal. try right arrow, you might notbe seeing all of them [17:27] Front Mix Capture Capture 1 Digital Rear [17:27] i would look and confirm both kubuntu and xubuntu have the same kernel and alsa rev [17:27] I sell all of tehm [17:28] these are different machines too, correct? [17:28] same machine [17:28] I wiped kubuntu and installed xubuntu in its place [17:28] Cal: have you looked in volume to see what output device is chosen [17:29] you mean input? [17:29] output in analogue output and works fine [17:29] Cal: when? if kubuntu was older, and had an earlier kernel rev, the recent upgrade could have broken functionalitiy [17:29] yesterday [17:29] afternoon [17:30] Cal: input then :) [17:30] Cal: was kubuntu *totally* up to date? [17:30] I'm pretty sure, I ran update/upgrade that day anyway [17:30] input is the AK5370~ [17:30] that is listed as a usb device [17:30] Cal: if you get tired of messing about in menus and buttons, i would try either an earlier kernel, or alsa version [17:31] you can always try a live CD... test fuctionality.. note the kernel and alsa versions [17:32] ye I'll do that [17:32] I'll be back when booted from the live cd [17:35] hey [17:35] I didnt boot from the live enviroment but I figured it out [17:36] if you're curious I wasn't a member of the pulse audio group :/ [17:36] but now I am :) [17:36] and it's working [17:36] thanks tfor the help === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [18:05] bonsoir tout le monde =) [18:05] !fr | xubuntu483 [18:05] xubuntu483: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. 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While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [19:14] I have a problem consediring the boot, i replaced my OS with xubuntu 12.04.1 and when i boot up with the usb after the factory logo its goes into a black screen just with a little white line flashing. [19:14] I have a problem consediring the boot, i replaced my OS with xubuntu 12.04.1 and when i boot up with the usb after the factory logo its goes into a black screen just with a little white line flashing. [19:14] I have a problem consediring the boot, i replaced my OS with xubuntu 12.04.1 and when i boot up with the usb after the factory logo its goes into a black screen just with a little white line flashing. [19:14] I have a problem consediring the boot, i replaced my OS with xubuntu 12.04.1 and when i boot up with the usb after the factory logo its goes into a black screen just with a little white line flashing. [19:14] I have a problem consediring the boot, i replaced my OS with xubuntu 12.04.1 and when i boot up with the usb after the factory logo its goes into a black screen just with a little white line flashing. [19:14] I have a problem consediring the boot, i replaced my OS with xubuntu 12.04.1 and when i boot up with the usb after the factory logo its goes into a black screen just with a little white line flashing. [19:14] I have a problem consediring the boot, i replaced my OS with xubuntu 12.04.1 and when i boot up with the usb after the factory logo its goes into a black screen just with a little white line flashing. [19:14] I have a problem consediring the boot, i replaced my OS with xubuntu 12.04.1 and when i boot up with the usb after the factory logo its goes into a black screen just with a little white line flashing. [19:14] I have a problem consediring the boot, i replaced my OS with xubuntu 12.04.1 and when i boot up with the usb after the factory logo its goes into a black screen just with a little white line flashing. [19:14] I have a problem consediring the boot, i replaced my OS with xubuntu 12.04.1 and when i boot up with the usb after the factory logo its goes into a black screen just with a little white line flashing. [19:14] Hm [19:15] Knome? [19:15]