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jelmerSamB_MacG5: sorry, I can't test at the moment01:44
SamB_MacG5oh well :-(01:44
jelmerSamB_MacG5: libsvn-dev conflicts with heimdal so I can't build subvertpy01:44
* SamB_MacG5 installs a thing01:46
jelmerSamB_MacG5: ask me again next week when I don't need this Kerberos stuff as badly :)01:46
SamB_MacG5this is NT's fault, isn't it?01:47
jelmerit's libpq-dev's fault for depending on krb5-dev01:48
* SamB_MacG5 doesn't get why libapr depends on so much stuff either ...01:49
* SamB_MacG5 *poof*01:50
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mark06anyone knows which bug is the one mentioned above about adding email change to bzr-rewrite? I have searched for email and mail but can't find any http://bit.ly/PTiVqw02:16
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mark06wouldn't sed work over .bzr for replacing committer field if we ever get a way to uncompress the relevant files?03:25
bob2not really03:27
lifelessmark06: in principle yes, but for referential integrity you need to change the revids too03:31
mark06referential integrity like in relational databases?03:33
mark06or are revids some sort of hash out of commit data?03:43
lifelessthey are guids03:45
mgzmorning!08:04
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trkvHi all. Whom can I ping to review my little merge-request? :) It has "pending" status for 2 months already.11:23
mgzhere is good.11:25
trkvokay, it's https://code.launchpad.net/~torkvemada/bzr/commit_hooks/+merge/11534811:25
mgzI think yours is the one I pass... right11:25
mgzI skipped that in my last big review-all-pending-branches sweep11:26
mgzthe main reason being there's been a bunch of discussion about where to put commit hooks before that I wanted to dig up, and your proposal didn't include examples of how you intended to use these new ones to quickly compare about11:27
mgzbut, as concrete things you can do to get this landing, adding some tests would be the main thing11:28
trkvmgz: I've already pointed in this very conference, what I added it for (it was 2 months ago, yes :) )11:29
trkvjust a little link: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~torkvemada/+junk/bzr-cimage/view/head:/__init__.py11:29
mgzreferencing that stuff in the merge proposal is the kind of thing that helps the reviewer11:29
trkvok, I'll add the reference11:30
trkvcould you point out the place in sources, where I should add the tests?11:30
trkvI'm not familiar with bzr sources11:31
mgzonly seeing https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/bazaar/2012q2/074812.html on cursory mailing list search for similar questions...11:32
mgztrkv: I'll try and find some earlier hook addition proposals for you for reference11:34
mgztrkv: see the following mps for some hints11:38
mgz<https://code.launchpad.net/~jelmer/bzr/transform-hooks/+merge/89007>11:38
mgz<https://code.launchpad.net/~jelmer/bzr/pre_post_command_hooks/+merge/87254>11:38
trkvok, thanks, I'll look at it11:46
tictacbumHello, I'm new to bzr, but I usually use git, there's an equivalent command to "git remote add ..." ?12:01
fullermdWell, since there's not an equivalent to git remote's...   8-}12:02
fullermdWhat larger task are you trying to accomplish?12:03
tictacbumbut I can have different origins in bzr?12:05
tictacbumI want to pull from a public repositroy, make changes and commit them  to a private one12:05
tictacbumthen pull from public again...12:05
fullermdMmph, I have a feeling terminological differences are going to bite us here...12:06
tictacbum:)12:06
fullermdBut pull and push (and merge, which you probably want in the mix here) use different saved locations.12:06
tictacbumwhat do you mean with saved locations?12:09
fullermdWhere 'bzr push' pushes to if you don't give it a URL on the command line.12:09
fullermd(ditto pull pulling from and merge merging from)12:09
tictacbumah ok, it is the last one used no?12:10
fullermdFirst one used, actually.  If there's no saved location, the first run saves what you set.12:10
fullermdFuture explicit locations aren't saved unless you use --remember.12:11
tictacbumyou know where does bzr save it?12:11
fullermdIt's in the branch config.  You can see the list in 'info'.12:11
fullermdAnd some other config-related command that vila will remind me of at some point.12:11
vilafullermd: bare 'bzr config'12:13
fullermdNot in public!12:13
tictacbumthanks, will try to understand better the concepts now12:13
fullermdtictacbum: The main concept to keep in mind is the branch-centric as opposed to repo-centric worldview.  You'll confuse yourself into knots if you try thinking the wrong way (about either system)12:14
fullermd(and the somewhat different usages of 'repo' and so forth, but that's second tier)12:15
tictacbumfullermd: thanks :)12:15
fullermdtictacbum: http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/MatthewFuller/SpotDocs/PiecesInBrief  may be helpful.  With a fair amount of existing DVCS experience, it may seem a little elementary, but it's still worth a careful read to catch differences in the worldview.12:17
fullermdAlso the PiecesInLength sibling has bits that may help, especially some of the stuff at the end comparing terminology among different DVCSen.12:17
fullermdWhich is probably not completely accurate, but the author's always a bit sloppy about stuff.  It's mostly right, anyway.12:18
mgzthe author is sloppy about kisses?12:19
fullermdHey, some people are into that sort of thing!12:19
fullermd(obviously not MANY, or he wouldn't have time to write about version control, but still)12:19
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tictacbumfullermd: great article, thanks to the author if you see12:40
fullermdWell, I try to avoid him, but it's probably unavoidable to run into him sooner or later.12:44
tbfafter merge: how do i see what commit deleted a file?12:47
tbfneed to know whom to kick12:47
fullermdThrough the UI, you're pretty much limited to doing a log -v and /-ing through it.12:47
tictacbumback to my qüestion, can a project have more than one repository?13:16
tictacbumI tried to push and pull with repo after the command, and ended with a diverged branch13:18
LeoNerdCrazy request:  bzr shelve;  bzr unshelve-on-another-machine ssh://...13:51
vilaLeoNerd: bzr commit; bzr push; bzr uncommit * 214:29
LeoNerd*twitch*14:29
vilaLeoNerd: do you prefer 'scp .bzr/checkout/shelf/<n> another-machine/..../.bzr/checkout/shelf/<omg-hope-it-doesnt-exist>14:34
LeoNerdI'd prefer theabove :P14:34
LeoNerdBut it doesn't exist.. so never mind14:34
cmars232hi, is there a UI for bzr like gitk?14:35
cmars232i want to see branch ancestry, see where merges have happened, where branches diverge, which one is missing a commit, etc14:35
vilacmars232: qlog from the qbzr plugin14:36
cmars232vila: thx, checking it out14:36
cmars232vila: qlog is exactly what I needed, thanks14:45
vilacmars232: make sure to not miss the ability to run it with multiple branches14:45
matsubaraHi there, I'm getting an error very similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/819604 but that's fix released for awhile now and I'm using 2.5.1. I'm running tarmac and while it runs the pre-commit hook, bzr keeps the ssh connection open to the branch but when the tests are over and tarmac resumes, I get the broken pipe error. Any way to workaround the issue?16:26
ubot5Ubuntu bug 819604 in Bazaar 2.4 "when an idle ssh transport is interrupted, bzrlib errors; should reconnect instead" [High,In progress]16:26
mgzmatsubara: jam has some branches up aimed at fixing this, see the latest mp linked from that bug16:28
matsubaramgz, the one superseded?16:28
matsubaramgz, and is there any known workaround before this is released?16:34
mgzbug 1047325 is probably the other one you're interested in16:35
ubot5Launchpad bug 1047325 in Bazaar "not properly interpreting EPIPE as connection reset" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104732516:35
mgzbasically we only got really good testing of the reconnect stuff when launchpad's copy of bzr was upgraded, so some follow on fixes were needed16:36
mgzso, you can run a trunk bzr, or cherrypick that fix, or persude tarmac to discard the transport16:38
mgzI'm not sure which you'll find easiest16:38
matsubarahmm16:38
matsubaraI guess running from trunk should do16:39
matsubaraI'll try it and come back if it doesn't work16:39
mgzor lp:bzr/2.5 trunk16:39
matsubarathanks mgz !16:39
mgzrather than dev16:39
jelmerhey mgz, matsubara16:39
mgzwe'll try and get a release done when the maas stuff is less pressing16:39
matsubarahi jelmer16:40
mgz(which we want to bug you about doing some testing for tomorrow)16:40
mgzjelmer! how's the rain?16:40
jelmermgz, absent!16:40
matsubaramgz, cool. let me know16:40
mgzalas.16:40
jelmermgz: how's things here?16:41
mgzjelmer: bouncing along okay (and sunny)16:41
mgzfound any samba bugs yet?16:42
mgz(I know, I know, shocking to even consider the possibility)16:43
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jelmerplenty (-:16:43
mgzSamB: heh.16:45
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