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vonkleisttry running jockey-kde00:00
Scunizi_You need to activate the drivers for nvidia.. Go into the menu and look for System.. in there will be Additional Drivers.. click that and activate the nvidia drivers.. It may download and require that you either reboot or logout and back in again.00:00
vonkleisthehe00:00
vonkleistthere it is00:00
Scunizi_vonkleist: I gotta run.. have fun :)00:01
vonkleistScunizi_, lol00:01
PridethWhere?00:03
vonkleistDo what Scunizi_ said00:03
PridethI do not find something like system but I have german AS language00:04
vonkleistummm00:04
vonkleistok, press Alt-F2 to launch the runner00:05
vonkleistthen type jockey-kde00:05
vonkleistand launch it00:05
vonkleistwhat I think will appear there is the propietary NVidia driver ready to be activated00:05
vonkleistif so, then activate it and be prepared to reboot and login00:06
PridethERROR:root: could not find and typelib for AppIndicator300:06
vonkleistummm...00:07
vonkleistwell, that was the last resort for me... It looks for me as if the installation is screwed00:07
PridethOk now. Hat do do it twice00:07
vonkleistok, good00:07
vonkleistdo you see the deactivated nvidia driver?00:07
PridethYeah which one should I try to activate00:08
vonkleistI'm not sure00:09
vonkleistwhich drivers do u see?00:10
PridethThe first is activated00:10
vonkleistwhich one is the first?00:10
Prideth4, all are proprietär and tested00:11
PridethVersion 17300:11
vonkleistI don't have an nvidia card, so I can't tell what r u seeing00:11
vonkleistplease take a screenshot and upload to http://tinypic.com/00:12
vonkleistso I can see what you're seeing there00:12
PridethVersion 173, Version current, Version 173-updates, and Version current-updates00:12
mr-richAnybody else notice that a lot listings appear twice in Apper?00:15
vonkleistWell, maybe you could try playing with those...00:16
vonkleistdeactivating one, activating another00:16
vonkleistmr-rich, uh?00:16
Pridethhttp://i48.tinypic.com/28hlog0.jpg00:21
vonkleistwhich one is activated? I'd suggest to activate the recommended one00:27
PridethFirst is activated. Second is recommended00:27
vonkleistThat's why I suggest to activate the second one00:29
PridethYeah it takes time00:30
PridethNow I have to restart00:32
vonkleistright00:32
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PridethOK now it is fast. Thank you a lot00:36
vonkleistgr800:36
vonkleistyou're welcome00:36
PridethGn800:36
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* AngelForget is away: Sono occupato01:29
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K350TRying to customize a livecd. What's the name of the tool to customize the plasma desktop - wallpaper and such - in kubuntu? I've to open it from a terminal but I don't know the name.05:29
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K350where in the systemsettings can I ustomize te plasma desktop, wallpapers and such?06:13
DarthFrogK350: Just right-click on the desktop itself.06:14
K350DarthFrog: well, my problem is that I'm - trying - to customize a livecd. So I've to acces it from the terminal. I can open systemsettings however..don't know about the panel stuff. Any ideas?06:16
DarthFrogCustomise a lve CD?  Why bother?06:16
DarthFrogI dont' see anything in System Settings wherein you could set the wallpaper.06:18
K350DarthFrog: neither do I :-( I've to google on this...06:19
DarthFrogBut why bother in the first place?06:19
K350DarthFrog: It's fun :-)06:20
DarthFrogThere's a kde-default.png in /usr/share/wallpapers.06:20
K350yea, I just saw that. Hm, I've to try that one unless I find something else. The widget gotta have a name. Problem is when I want to adjust panels - say place them on top instead of defautl bottom etc...hm...06:21
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skreech_K350: Plasma scripting?07:08
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szymon_hello HWDP07:11
szymon_hi people07:11
szymon_no ?07:12
szymon_ok fuck off07:12
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K350skreech_: eh, what about plasma scripting?07:16
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simion314hi,anyone can help me with a microphone? is not working, It worked before08:02
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tron71Hi08:29
tron71is there a way to change the CPU frequency from KDE?08:29
tron71there used to be a function in power settings but that seems to have gone now...08:29
Peace-tron71: youn neeed to change power profile to performance08:37
tron71actually I'd like to do the opposite :)08:38
tron71I'd like to tweak the profile for powersafe08:38
tron71which, as far as I understand, uses ondemand for CPU08:38
tron71I'd like to try powersafe for CPU instead of ondemand08:38
tron71but there's no option anymore in powersave settings to change the CPU frequency...08:39
lordievadertron71: There is the cpufreq-indicator, it is actually ment for unity but it works in KDE, let me get you a link.08:41
lordievadertron71: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/indicator-cpufreq-cpu-frequency-indicator-ppa-installation-instructions-included.html08:42
lordievadertron71: Or you can use the cli app cpufreq-set.08:43
tron71I wonder why there's no such things for KDE itself :)08:44
tron71thanks for the links!08:44
lordievadertron71: Perhaps there is, but I have not found it.08:44
tsimpsonthere's no need for a PPA, just install the indicator-cpufreq package08:44
lordievaderAh has it been added to the repo, I wasn't aware of that.08:45
tron71I've installed indicator-cpufreq package but how can I add it to KDE?08:46
tron71it does not show up in the available widgets...08:46
lordievadertron71: That is because it is not a widget, run the command indicator-cpufreq from a terminal.08:48
tron71ah! right! :)08:49
tron71no icon image, but it seems to work...08:49
contrastGreets, everyone. I'm getting *lots* of plasma-desktop crashes after upgrading to 4.9.1. Tried a clean install (removing ~/.kde) and it was fine, but after setting Plasma back up to my liking (http://imgur.com/a/yi3pc) it starts crashing again.08:50
tron71I'll also try to find whethere there's some widget for KDE... but the last time I looked for them I didn't find them...08:50
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mah454How can remove "New Activity" Buttom on top screen ???08:52
contrasttron71: Try searching for "cpu frequency" on kde-look.org. Looks like you have a few choices.08:52
tron71just for curiosity are you using any of them?08:53
tron71or just indicator-cpufreq?08:53
contrasttron71: Nope, haven't tried any of them.08:53
lordievadertron71: Depends on which machine I use, on my laptop I use the indicator on my server I use cpufreq-set.08:54
contrastmah454: You can either drag it to a bottom corner so it's hidden under the panel, or add the PyCashew widget to the desktop (you can install it from the Get New Widgets dialog).08:54
tron71yes, I meant on a laptop...08:55
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mah454contrast: I need ewmove this button on top my screen08:57
mah454remove it08:57
tron71I'll try to see whether setting CPU freq to powersafe (instead of ondemand) saves some battery time...08:57
lordievadertron71: Powertop argues it doesn't.08:59
tron71mh... but under windows, who uses clearly the lowest frequency (I can see on the indicator), the battery lasts much longer...09:00
Guest5216mhg09:01
contrastmah454: The PyCashew widget will remove it.09:01
Guest5216h09:02
lordievadertron71: This might help you: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57279-How-to-Enable-power-management-features09:03
tron71I forgot to mention that I already enabled many powersafe functionalities09:04
tron71not only with powertop09:04
tron71but also with bumblebee (for graphical card)09:04
tron71this brought me from 30Watt to 15Watt...09:04
tron71still I barely get more than 3 hours battery (compared with 5 hours in windows)...09:04
tron71however, I'll take a look at the link you gave me :)09:05
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mindVVind_hallo dear cyber friends11:42
joanHi, this is really unbelievable, I had a nasty bug concerning CUPS 1.5.3 in kubuntu 12.04, that caused the following output in the error log:11:59
joan"failed to CreateProfile: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id NAME_OF_THE_PRINTER"11:59
joanWell, I tried installing VirtualBox with W$ XP on that kubuntu 12.04 and setup the printer, with success.11:59
joanBut the weird thing is that after that, printing through cups in linux has been fixed automagically. I can't understand anything... This is weirdness itself12:00
bretth anybody know if Calligra will be default office in Kubuntu12.10?  It works much better for opening docx files.12:15
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AlexZionhi everyone, I'm using kubuntu 12.04 with kde 4.9.1 and it seems really unstable, especially plasma-desktop which crash very often, someone knows why and how to fix it ?12:38
mindVVindDear AlexZion please you must care it with screenrecords program12:40
mindVVindrecord my desktop12:40
AlexZionmindVVind: it doesn't works ......12:40
AlexZionin my laptop record my desktop doesn't works since few version ....12:42
mindVVindfirst of all - ask about it the God -after blees install previous version КDE12:42
mindVVindэто заговор12:43
AlexZionso do you mean I should reinstalla the entire system with another version of KDE mindVVind ?12:43
mindVVindI think that is one way of many12:44
AlexZionwell , if I have to will be to install another distro, I'm getting tired of the horrible kde config in kubuntu, probabbly it's time to change ....12:45
mindVVindyou can install virtual box end make you deal in Vbox12:45
AlexZionthanks a lot12:45
mindVVindgood deal12:45
AlexZionit crashes 6 time since I'm writing here , really excellent , isn't ?12:50
mindVVindyou are great man!!12:54
mindVVindwhere are you from??12:54
AlexZionItaly mindVVind and you ?12:55
mindVVindrussia12:55
mindVVindmay be you install BSD??&&12:56
mindVVindmaybe this is help you12:56
AlexZionI use kubuntu since few years and it seems is getting worst instead of improve .....12:57
mindVVindpcBSD must see by your mind12:58
AlexZionthe default config is one of the worst you can get with kde and now, it's even unstable12:58
mindVVindKDE in complect12:58
AlexZionwell I was thinking to try Debian instead ....12:59
mindVVindyour old KDE config & old kubuntu you can save12:59
mindVVindBut in chanel #pcbsd is kind mans!!12:59
mindVVind& probably you can solve many more truble in future13:00
AlexZionthanks mindVVind, to push me away from kubuntu , that's what a good user of kubuntu has to do .. ;)13:02
mindVVindno no no I have kubuntu right now13:03
mindVVindBut I think what bsd help you head in you live13:04
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al____ey guys13:21
al____I am new to kubuntu13:21
al____just managed to install it13:22
al____and it's great13:22
al____:)13:22
al____I only have one issue13:22
al____which is installing Flash player13:22
al____whenever I install it13:22
al____and I open13:22
al____it13:22
al____the component files open but not the boot option as it would in Microsoft13:23
al____any ideas on what I can do?13:23
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ikoniaal____: do you know how to install software in kubuntu ?13:27
al____not really13:27
al____since I am new13:27
ikoniaok, I suggest reading https://help.ubuntu.com and learn how to install software13:27
ikoniathat is the first basic step you will need13:27
al____I have managed to  install opera13:27
al____ok13:28
al____great13:28
ikoniayou need to understand how to use the package manager13:28
ikonia21/join #fedora13:29
ikoniaoops, sorry13:29
BluesKajHi all13:32
jussianyone know if Kmail has an "archive" feature, like gmail and thunderbird?13:33
ikoniajussi: I'd hope so13:33
al____@ikonia thanks13:33
jussiikonia: so would I, struggling to find it tbh13:33
ikoniaal____: no problem13:33
al____I  am just navigating throuh it13:34
al____and i seems easy enough13:34
ikoniashouldn't cause you too many problems13:34
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jussiperhaps my question is badly formulated. Can anyone help me to find a way to replicate the archive feature found in gmail/thunderbird in the kmail client13:35
jussi?13:35
BluesKajjussi, is kmail working ok for you ?.I haven't had much luck with it , segfaults etc13:38
jussiBluesKaj: I usually use thunderbird, wanted more functionality but in the process seem to be losing some13:38
BluesKajjussi, but at least it's stable for you , correct ?13:40
jussiBluesKaj: < 2 hours of use, no idea.13:40
BluesKajok thanks , jussi13:40
lordievaderGood afternoon13:55
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jmtheronhow do i install kde without all the other desktop software on ubuntu?314:33
mindVVindfireball14:33
mindVVindanyboby see?14:34
vividjmtheron, did you read this? http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57474-kubuntu-minimal14:36
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jmtheronyes i got it i was looking for kde-plasma-desktop14:43
vividi noticed14:44
jmtheron=D14:44
qw[Russian]hello all14:46
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n0ti0nishi everyone15:49
n0ti0nisI'd like to contribute as a developer, I suppose I need a mentor :)15:50
Tm_Tn0ti0nis: hi, developers are sitting at #kubuntu-devel, welcome there (:15:51
n0ti0nisthank you!15:51
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Arjunahello is there a cmd to check which sata the controller supports ? (it would be much easier as finding out which mainborad and then search manual)16:03
Arjunaok got the info the cmd would be also interessting16:13
genii-aroundArjuna: Probably: sudo lshw -C storage16:15
Arjunanice thx genii-around16:18
BluesKaj, stuff to do for a while , BBL16:26
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skreech_jussi: Iguess you could move to a different folder?16:35
skreech_Arjuna: umm Kinfocenter might help ?16:36
Arjunathx thats also interesting16:42
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Arjunaanother question what is a nice root partition size (without /home)17:12
Arjunawith many programms17:13
Arjunafor desktop use17:14
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genii-aroundArjuna: It varies but I like to have about 20G17:20
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Arjunayes know that it is hard to say because many differences thx17:25
DaskreechArjuna: depends on what you deem many programs. I've recently upgraded from 7GB to 15 GB cause I hit 5.5 GB in /17:26
DaskreechCourse you may need 45 GB depending on how long you keep your / around and how willing you are to prune17:28
Arjunalong time to keep my / and prune dont know how (only delete packages) so this wouldn't happen in early future17:31
Arjunathink these are values to find out which sys hd fits17:32
DaskreechArjuna: apt-cache clean17:40
Arjunavoid operation clean17:44
genii-aroundsudo apt-get clean17:44
genii-aroundDaskreech: apt-cache doesn't have a "clean" option ;)17:45
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Daskreechgenii-around: Fail. :-p17:51
DaskreechArjuna: Sorry it's apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean17:51
Arjunaah nice delete downloaded packages and outdatet downloaded packages thx thats realy helpfull17:53
Arjunathx my laptop has free space17:55
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MySystemhello i need to check every harddisk for hardware errors (there is this terrifying CLICK from one of the harddisks) which tool should i use19:27
genii-aroundMySystem: To boot to a livecd and then run fsck on them19:33
MySystemboot a live cd is a problem my monitor default EDID is out of range (very cheap noname monitor) so i dont see anything from kubuntu setup cd19:36
avihaywhere do you see the fsck log from the scheduled scans?19:37
avihaycould it be failing ant not tell me?19:37
MySystemi would say syslog good idea19:38
genii-aroundMySystem: Alternately you can remount in read-only with: sudo mount -o remount,ro <mountpoint-here>       then run the fsck, remount after the scan with -o remount,rw19:42
genii-around( make sure sub-mounts are also read-only )19:42
MySystemok this works with all partitions ? or only non /19:43
genii-aroundMySystem: Works with all partitions19:44
MySystemnice thx19:44
genii-around( including / )19:44
MySystemi have one disk that i cant fsck because there a re many errors and fsck will cause a massive data loss is there another way to check the hardware part of the harddisk and another partition is ntfs think fsck won't work there or?19:49
genii-aroundntfs should be checked from in Windows with chkdsk. Linux can mark ntfs clean but not actually repair it.19:51
genii-aroundMySystem: If your drive is failing you normally get a BIOS message if you have SMART enabled19:52
MySystemsmart is enabled from bios but returned no error19:52
genii-aroundThere will probably be lots of I/O errors as well in the dmesg output19:53
MySystembut smart was also my idea so i run smartctl think i found the problem http://pastebin.com/mjeEs88G19:53
MySystemall other harddisks returned no errors ar -t short19:54
MySystemar = at19:54
MySystemgoing to backup immediately19:55
MySystembe back when replace hd is pluged19:56
MySystemthx for the help till then19:57
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MySystemok copy the partition doesnt work read error (i hoped this wouldn't happen), can i correct the error befor copy with fsck if yes which option should i use from fsck20:33
MySystembecause the kparted starts a e2fsck but it found no error and start copy20:35
wizzhello all20:45
wizzlooking for some help with ircd anybody here thats knows it ?20:46
wizzok thanks any way20:48
wizzhave a good day20:48
Daz646Hello everyone20:50
MySystemhello20:51
MySystemDaz64620:51
hellslinger  does anyone understand how kdm and kwin get their font anti-aliasing and subpixel rendering options at first launch, I'm having trouble on a cedarview netbook where if the cedarview driver is loaded kdm and kwin don't get the right fontconfig options, but the rest of the qt widgets and fonts are fine.20:58
lordievaderhellslinger: Perhaps an idea to ask in #kwin?20:59
hellslingerit happens only when the cedarview driver is loaded, otherwise it works20:59
hellslingerlordievader: I'll try that, thanks20:59
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MySystemcontinue backing up broken hd:i fsck -f -c -v /dev/sdd1 and it found bad sektors and updated bad block inode but partitioncopy doesn't work read error, is there another tool to copy the readable data to another hd my only idea is cp but it would cancel at first read error21:48
MySystem1back21:50
genii-aroundMySystem1: If you're familiar with dd  you could try ddrescue21:51
MySystem1not realy i only used it one time to make a read check dd -if=/dev/sdd1 -of=/dev/null bs=2M21:54
genii-aroundMySystem1: The idea with dd is you can use it to make a bit-for-bit copy of something like a raw device ( sdd1) to a file. But it will normally choke also if it hits a bad area. ddrescue will just skip over the bad area if it can.21:56
MySystem1ok can i specify instead of a target file a target partition like /dev/sde6 (its bigger than the source partition with same fs)21:58
genii-aroundMySystem1: There are two ways to use dd/ddrescue with partitions... you can copy the partition to another partition, or you can make a filename on the other partition that is an image of the first one ( that you can loop-mount to see the files inside)22:00
genii-aroundMySystem1: the if=  part of dd command is the input-file part, of= is the output-file part. So if you want to copy sdd1 exactly onto sde1 for instance (wiping out any data on sde1 and resizing it as a partition to exaclt the length sdd1 is)  it would be: sudo dd if=/dev/sdd1 of=/dev/sde1     ... if you want to make an image which is a file instead, you use more like of=/path-to-other-mounted-partition/filename.img22:02
genii-around( replacing dd with ddrescue in the case where the if=   source part has corruption )22:03
genii-aroundMySystem1: There is some help on usage of ddrescue here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Imaging_a_damaged_device.2C_filesystem_or_drive22:04
MySystem1nice thx22:08
MySystem1i would try: sudo ddrescue -f -r -1 -v /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde6 /home/mysystem/sdd1_ddrescue_log22:13
MySystem1or have i forgot something or something to much ?22:13
MySystem1sdd1 is a 80gb ext3 partition and sde6 is a 100gb ext3 partition22:13
MySystem1for info sde doesn't contain important data so a complete sde loss isnt such bad22:14
genii-aroundMySystem1: After that runs, you'll have 20G out in limbo22:14
MySystem1what is a limbo22:15
genii-aroundBut yeah, that should work. Expect it to take a long time22:15
MySystem1it can take the whole night doesn't matter22:16
genii-aroundMySystem1: You'll have to use gparted or something to reclaim the 20G after sde6 becomes 80G big instead of 10022:16
MySystem1oh ok got limbo can i fix this after ddrescue with the 20gb via kparted or so ?22:16
MySystem1oh yeah this i ment22:16
MySystem1nice thats no prob22:17
genii-aroundMySystem1: I have to go now, but good luck. I'll be back on tomorrow if you need more help then.22:17
MySystem1found a error root hasn't write acces at /home/mysystem which path shuold i use for logging22:17
phillwhi, is there anyone apart from scott and ridell to do with testing of 12.10?22:17
MySystem1lots of thx genii-around you helped much today (was at my girlfriends pc with Arjuna)22:18
genii-aroundphillw: You mean devs or testers?22:18
genii-around( I'm testing 12.10 with 4.9.1 right now for instance but i'm not a dev)22:19
phillwgenii-around: just need some one to proof read 3 test cases before they are applied to kubuntu-alternate22:19
phillwas only lubuntu & kubuntu aer keeping alternate, they are supposedly distro agnostic.22:20
phillw*are*22:20
phillwlubuntu have accepted (I'm from lubuntu), I just need someone from kubuntu to say that they have no errors in and then I can assign them on the iso-tracker (I'm a test-case admin as well... for my sins :P )22:21
MySystem1ok it has started it can take while so lots of thx for help espacely to genii-around iam afk have a nice evening22:22
genii-aroundphillw: Have you asked in #kubuntu-devel ?22:23
phillwI can catch one of them tomorrow, I tried pinging riddel but he is afk. I just forgot to ask them if they were happy with them. no worries, I'll catch one of them tomorrow :)22:25
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MySystem1back with the hd partition copy with ddrescue i used -r -1 and now its retrying bad sectors retry 15 i think this will last forever because of -1 or ? can i cancel without losing all whats copied23:42

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