[00:00] <vonkleist> try running jockey-kde
[00:00] <Scunizi_> You need to activate the drivers for nvidia.. Go into the menu and look for System.. in there will be Additional Drivers.. click that and activate the nvidia drivers.. It may download and require that you either reboot or logout and back in again.
[00:00] <vonkleist> hehe
[00:00] <vonkleist> there it is
[00:01] <Scunizi_> vonkleist: I gotta run.. have fun :)
[00:01] <vonkleist> Scunizi_, lol
[00:03] <Prideth> Where?
[00:03] <vonkleist> Do what Scunizi_ said
[00:04] <Prideth> I do not find something like system but I have german AS language
[00:04] <vonkleist> ummm
[00:05] <vonkleist> ok, press Alt-F2 to launch the runner
[00:05] <vonkleist> then type jockey-kde
[00:05] <vonkleist> and launch it
[00:05] <vonkleist> what I think will appear there is the propietary NVidia driver ready to be activated
[00:06] <vonkleist> if so, then activate it and be prepared to reboot and login
[00:06] <Prideth> ERROR:root: could not find and typelib for AppIndicator3
[00:07] <vonkleist> ummm...
[00:07] <vonkleist> well, that was the last resort for me... It looks for me as if the installation is screwed
[00:07] <Prideth> Ok now. Hat do do it twice
[00:07] <vonkleist> ok, good
[00:07] <vonkleist> do you see the deactivated nvidia driver?
[00:08] <Prideth> Yeah which one should I try to activate
[00:09] <vonkleist> I'm not sure
[00:10] <vonkleist> which drivers do u see?
[00:10] <Prideth> The first is activated
[00:10] <vonkleist> which one is the first?
[00:11] <Prideth> 4, all are proprietär and tested
[00:11] <Prideth> Version 173
[00:11] <vonkleist> I don't have an nvidia card, so I can't tell what r u seeing
[00:12] <vonkleist> please take a screenshot and upload to http://tinypic.com/
[00:12] <vonkleist> so I can see what you're seeing there
[00:12] <Prideth> Version 173, Version current, Version 173-updates, and Version current-updates
[00:15] <mr-rich> Anybody else notice that a lot listings appear twice in Apper?
[00:16] <vonkleist> Well, maybe you could try playing with those...
[00:16] <vonkleist> deactivating one, activating another
[00:16] <vonkleist> mr-rich, uh?
[00:21] <Prideth> http://i48.tinypic.com/28hlog0.jpg
[00:27] <vonkleist> which one is activated? I'd suggest to activate the recommended one
[00:27] <Prideth> First is activated. Second is recommended
[00:29] <vonkleist> That's why I suggest to activate the second one
[00:30] <Prideth> Yeah it takes time
[00:32] <Prideth> Now I have to restart
[00:32] <vonkleist> right
[00:36] <Prideth> OK now it is fast. Thank you a lot
[00:36] <vonkleist> gr8
[00:36] <vonkleist> you're welcome
[00:36] <Prideth> Gn8
[01:29]  * AngelForget is away: Sono occupato
[05:29] <K350> TRying to customize a livecd. What's the name of the tool to customize the plasma desktop - wallpaper and such - in kubuntu? I've to open it from a terminal but I don't know the name.
[06:13] <K350> where in the systemsettings can I ustomize te plasma desktop, wallpapers and such?
[06:14] <DarthFrog> K350: Just right-click on the desktop itself.
[06:16] <K350> DarthFrog: well, my problem is that I'm - trying - to customize a livecd. So I've to acces it from the terminal. I can open systemsettings however..don't know about the panel stuff. Any ideas?
[06:16] <DarthFrog> Customise a lve CD?  Why bother?
[06:18] <DarthFrog> I dont' see anything in System Settings wherein you could set the wallpaper.
[06:19] <K350> DarthFrog: neither do I :-( I've to google on this...
[06:19] <DarthFrog> But why bother in the first place?
[06:20] <K350> DarthFrog: It's fun :-)
[06:20] <DarthFrog> There's a kde-default.png in /usr/share/wallpapers.
[06:21] <K350> yea, I just saw that. Hm, I've to try that one unless I find something else. The widget gotta have a name. Problem is when I want to adjust panels - say place them on top instead of defautl bottom etc...hm...
[07:08] <skreech_> K350: Plasma scripting?
[07:11] <szymon_> hello HWDP
[07:11] <szymon_> hi people
[07:12] <szymon_> no ?
[07:12] <szymon_> ok fuck off
[07:16] <K350> skreech_: eh, what about plasma scripting?
[08:02] <simion314> hi,anyone can help me with a microphone? is not working, It worked before
[08:29] <tron71> Hi
[08:29] <tron71> is there a way to change the CPU frequency from KDE?
[08:29] <tron71> there used to be a function in power settings but that seems to have gone now...
[08:37] <Peace-> tron71: youn neeed to change power profile to performance
[08:38] <tron71> actually I'd like to do the opposite :)
[08:38] <tron71> I'd like to tweak the profile for powersafe
[08:38] <tron71> which, as far as I understand, uses ondemand for CPU
[08:38] <tron71> I'd like to try powersafe for CPU instead of ondemand
[08:39] <tron71> but there's no option anymore in powersave settings to change the CPU frequency...
[08:41] <lordievader> tron71: There is the cpufreq-indicator, it is actually ment for unity but it works in KDE, let me get you a link.
[08:42] <lordievader> tron71: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/indicator-cpufreq-cpu-frequency-indicator-ppa-installation-instructions-included.html
[08:43] <lordievader> tron71: Or you can use the cli app cpufreq-set.
[08:44] <tron71> I wonder why there's no such things for KDE itself :)
[08:44] <tron71> thanks for the links!
[08:44] <lordievader> tron71: Perhaps there is, but I have not found it.
[08:44] <tsimpson> there's no need for a PPA, just install the indicator-cpufreq package
[08:45] <lordievader> Ah has it been added to the repo, I wasn't aware of that.
[08:46] <tron71> I've installed indicator-cpufreq package but how can I add it to KDE?
[08:46] <tron71> it does not show up in the available widgets...
[08:48] <lordievader> tron71: That is because it is not a widget, run the command indicator-cpufreq from a terminal.
[08:49] <tron71> ah! right! :)
[08:49] <tron71> no icon image, but it seems to work...
[08:50] <contrast> Greets, everyone. I'm getting *lots* of plasma-desktop crashes after upgrading to 4.9.1. Tried a clean install (removing ~/.kde) and it was fine, but after setting Plasma back up to my liking (http://imgur.com/a/yi3pc) it starts crashing again.
[08:50] <tron71> I'll also try to find whethere there's some widget for KDE... but the last time I looked for them I didn't find them...
[08:52] <mah454> How can remove "New Activity" Buttom on top screen ???
[08:52] <contrast> tron71: Try searching for "cpu frequency" on kde-look.org. Looks like you have a few choices.
[08:53] <tron71> just for curiosity are you using any of them?
[08:53] <tron71> or just indicator-cpufreq?
[08:53] <contrast> tron71: Nope, haven't tried any of them.
[08:54] <lordievader> tron71: Depends on which machine I use, on my laptop I use the indicator on my server I use cpufreq-set.
[08:54] <contrast> mah454: You can either drag it to a bottom corner so it's hidden under the panel, or add the PyCashew widget to the desktop (you can install it from the Get New Widgets dialog).
[08:55] <tron71> yes, I meant on a laptop...
[08:57] <mah454> contrast: I need ewmove this button on top my screen
[08:57] <mah454> remove it
[08:57] <tron71> I'll try to see whether setting CPU freq to powersafe (instead of ondemand) saves some battery time...
[08:59] <lordievader> tron71: Powertop argues it doesn't.
[09:00] <tron71> mh... but under windows, who uses clearly the lowest frequency (I can see on the indicator), the battery lasts much longer...
[09:01] <Guest5216> mhg
[09:01] <contrast> mah454: The PyCashew widget will remove it.
[09:02] <Guest5216> h
[09:03] <lordievader> tron71: This might help you: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57279-How-to-Enable-power-management-features
[09:04] <tron71> I forgot to mention that I already enabled many powersafe functionalities
[09:04] <tron71> not only with powertop
[09:04] <tron71> but also with bumblebee (for graphical card)
[09:04] <tron71> this brought me from 30Watt to 15Watt...
[09:04] <tron71> still I barely get more than 3 hours battery (compared with 5 hours in windows)...
[09:05] <tron71> however, I'll take a look at the link you gave me :)
[11:42] <mindVVind_> hallo dear cyber friends
[11:59] <joan> Hi, this is really unbelievable, I had a nasty bug concerning CUPS 1.5.3 in kubuntu 12.04, that caused the following output in the error log:
[11:59] <joan> "failed to CreateProfile: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id NAME_OF_THE_PRINTER"
[11:59] <joan> Well, I tried installing VirtualBox with W$ XP on that kubuntu 12.04 and setup the printer, with success.
[12:00] <joan> But the weird thing is that after that, printing through cups in linux has been fixed automagically. I can't understand anything... This is weirdness itself
[12:15] <bretth>  anybody know if Calligra will be default office in Kubuntu12.10?  It works much better for opening docx files.
[12:38] <AlexZion> hi everyone, I'm using kubuntu 12.04 with kde 4.9.1 and it seems really unstable, especially plasma-desktop which crash very often, someone knows why and how to fix it ?
[12:40] <mindVVind> Dear AlexZion please you must care it with screenrecords program
[12:40] <mindVVind> record my desktop
[12:40] <AlexZion> mindVVind: it doesn't works ......
[12:42] <AlexZion> in my laptop record my desktop doesn't works since few version ....
[12:42] <mindVVind> first of all - ask about it the God -after blees install previous version КDE
[12:43] <mindVVind> это заговор
[12:43] <AlexZion> so do you mean I should reinstalla the entire system with another version of KDE mindVVind ?
[12:44] <mindVVind> I think that is one way of many
[12:45] <AlexZion> well , if I have to will be to install another distro, I'm getting tired of the horrible kde config in kubuntu, probabbly it's time to change ....
[12:45] <mindVVind> you can install virtual box end make you deal in Vbox
[12:45] <AlexZion> thanks a lot
[12:45] <mindVVind> good deal
[12:50] <AlexZion> it crashes 6 time since I'm writing here , really excellent , isn't ?
[12:54] <mindVVind> you are great man!!
[12:54] <mindVVind> where are you from??
[12:55] <AlexZion> Italy mindVVind and you ?
[12:55] <mindVVind> russia
[12:56] <mindVVind> may be you install BSD??&&
[12:56] <mindVVind> maybe this is help you
[12:57] <AlexZion> I use kubuntu since few years and it seems is getting worst instead of improve .....
[12:58] <mindVVind> pcBSD must see by your mind
[12:58] <AlexZion> the default config is one of the worst you can get with kde and now, it's even unstable
[12:58] <mindVVind> KDE in complect
[12:59] <AlexZion> well I was thinking to try Debian instead ....
[12:59] <mindVVind> your old KDE config & old kubuntu you can save
[12:59] <mindVVind> But in chanel #pcbsd is kind mans!!
[13:00] <mindVVind> & probably you can solve many more truble in future
[13:02] <AlexZion> thanks mindVVind, to push me away from kubuntu , that's what a good user of kubuntu has to do .. ;)
[13:03] <mindVVind> no no no I have kubuntu right now
[13:04] <mindVVind> But I think what bsd help you head in you live
[13:21] <al____> ey guys
[13:21] <al____> I am new to kubuntu
[13:22] <al____> just managed to install it
[13:22] <al____> and it's great
[13:22] <al____> :)
[13:22] <al____> I only have one issue
[13:22] <al____> which is installing Flash player
[13:22] <al____> whenever I install it
[13:22] <al____> and I open
[13:22] <al____> it
[13:23] <al____> the component files open but not the boot option as it would in Microsoft
[13:23] <al____> any ideas on what I can do?
[13:27] <ikonia> al____: do you know how to install software in kubuntu ?
[13:27] <al____> not really
[13:27] <al____> since I am new
[13:27] <ikonia> ok, I suggest reading https://help.ubuntu.com and learn how to install software
[13:27] <ikonia> that is the first basic step you will need
[13:27] <al____> I have managed to  install opera
[13:28] <al____> ok
[13:28] <al____> great
[13:28] <ikonia> you need to understand how to use the package manager
[13:29] <ikonia> 21/join #fedora
[13:29] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:33] <jussi> anyone know if Kmail has an "archive" feature, like gmail and thunderbird?
[13:33] <ikonia> jussi: I'd hope so
[13:33] <al____> @ikonia thanks
[13:33] <jussi> ikonia: so would I, struggling to find it tbh
[13:33] <ikonia> al____: no problem
[13:34] <al____> I  am just navigating throuh it
[13:34] <al____> and i seems easy enough
[13:34] <ikonia> shouldn't cause you too many problems
[13:35] <jussi> perhaps my question is badly formulated. Can anyone help me to find a way to replicate the archive feature found in gmail/thunderbird in the kmail client
[13:35] <jussi> ?
[13:38] <BluesKaj> jussi, is kmail working ok for you ?.I haven't had much luck with it , segfaults etc
[13:38] <jussi> BluesKaj: I usually use thunderbird, wanted more functionality but in the process seem to be losing some
[13:40] <BluesKaj> jussi, but at least it's stable for you , correct ?
[13:40] <jussi> BluesKaj: < 2 hours of use, no idea.
[13:40] <BluesKaj> ok thanks , jussi
[13:55] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[14:33] <jmtheron> how do i install kde without all the other desktop software on ubuntu?3
[14:33] <mindVVind> fireball
[14:34] <mindVVind> anyboby see?
[14:36] <vivid> jmtheron, did you read this? http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57474-kubuntu-minimal
[14:43] <jmtheron> yes i got it i was looking for kde-plasma-desktop
[14:44] <vivid> i noticed
[14:44] <jmtheron> =D
[14:46] <qw[Russian]> hello all
[15:49] <n0ti0nis> hi everyone
[15:50] <n0ti0nis> I'd like to contribute as a developer, I suppose I need a mentor :)
[15:51] <Tm_T> n0ti0nis: hi, developers are sitting at #kubuntu-devel, welcome there (:
[15:51] <n0ti0nis> thank you!
[16:03] <Arjuna> hello is there a cmd to check which sata the controller supports ? (it would be much easier as finding out which mainborad and then search manual)
[16:13] <Arjuna> ok got the info the cmd would be also interessting
[16:15] <genii-around> Arjuna: Probably: sudo lshw -C storage
[16:18] <Arjuna> nice thx genii-around
[16:26] <BluesKaj> , stuff to do for a while , BBL
[16:35] <skreech_> jussi: Iguess you could move to a different folder?
[16:36] <skreech_> Arjuna: umm Kinfocenter might help ?
[16:42] <Arjuna> thx thats also interesting
[17:12] <Arjuna> another question what is a nice root partition size (without /home)
[17:13] <Arjuna> with many programms
[17:14] <Arjuna> for desktop use
[17:20] <genii-around> Arjuna: It varies but I like to have about 20G
[17:25] <Arjuna> yes know that it is hard to say because many differences thx
[17:26] <Daskreech> Arjuna: depends on what you deem many programs. I've recently upgraded from 7GB to 15 GB cause I hit 5.5 GB in /
[17:28] <Daskreech> Course you may need 45 GB depending on how long you keep your / around and how willing you are to prune
[17:31] <Arjuna> long time to keep my / and prune dont know how (only delete packages) so this wouldn't happen in early future
[17:32] <Arjuna> think these are values to find out which sys hd fits
[17:40] <Daskreech> Arjuna: apt-cache clean
[17:44] <Arjuna> void operation clean
[17:44] <genii-around> sudo apt-get clean
[17:45] <genii-around> Daskreech: apt-cache doesn't have a "clean" option ;)
[17:51] <Daskreech> genii-around: Fail. :-p
[17:51] <Daskreech> Arjuna: Sorry it's apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean
[17:53] <Arjuna> ah nice delete downloaded packages and outdatet downloaded packages thx thats realy helpfull
[17:55] <Arjuna> thx my laptop has free space
[19:27] <MySystem> hello i need to check every harddisk for hardware errors (there is this terrifying CLICK from one of the harddisks) which tool should i use
[19:33] <genii-around> MySystem: To boot to a livecd and then run fsck on them
[19:36] <MySystem> boot a live cd is a problem my monitor default EDID is out of range (very cheap noname monitor) so i dont see anything from kubuntu setup cd
[19:37] <avihay> where do you see the fsck log from the scheduled scans?
[19:37] <avihay> could it be failing ant not tell me?
[19:38] <MySystem> i would say syslog good idea
[19:42] <genii-around> MySystem: Alternately you can remount in read-only with: sudo mount -o remount,ro <mountpoint-here>       then run the fsck, remount after the scan with -o remount,rw
[19:42] <genii-around> ( make sure sub-mounts are also read-only )
[19:43] <MySystem> ok this works with all partitions ? or only non /
[19:44] <genii-around> MySystem: Works with all partitions
[19:44] <MySystem> nice thx
[19:44] <genii-around> ( including / )
[19:49] <MySystem> i have one disk that i cant fsck because there a re many errors and fsck will cause a massive data loss is there another way to check the hardware part of the harddisk and another partition is ntfs think fsck won't work there or?
[19:51] <genii-around> ntfs should be checked from in Windows with chkdsk. Linux can mark ntfs clean but not actually repair it.
[19:52] <genii-around> MySystem: If your drive is failing you normally get a BIOS message if you have SMART enabled
[19:52] <MySystem> smart is enabled from bios but returned no error
[19:53] <genii-around> There will probably be lots of I/O errors as well in the dmesg output
[19:53] <MySystem> but smart was also my idea so i run smartctl think i found the problem http://pastebin.com/mjeEs88G
[19:54] <MySystem> all other harddisks returned no errors ar -t short
[19:54] <MySystem> ar = at
[19:55] <MySystem> going to backup immediately
[19:56] <MySystem> be back when replace hd is pluged
[19:57] <MySystem> thx for the help till then
[20:33] <MySystem> ok copy the partition doesnt work read error (i hoped this wouldn't happen), can i correct the error befor copy with fsck if yes which option should i use from fsck
[20:35] <MySystem> because the kparted starts a e2fsck but it found no error and start copy
[20:45] <wizz> hello all
[20:46] <wizz> looking for some help with ircd anybody here thats knows it ?
[20:48] <wizz> ok thanks any way
[20:48] <wizz> have a good day
[20:50] <Daz646> Hello everyone
[20:51] <MySystem> hello
[20:51] <MySystem> Daz646
[20:58] <hellslinger>   does anyone understand how kdm and kwin get their font anti-aliasing and subpixel rendering options at first launch, I'm having trouble on a cedarview netbook where if the cedarview driver is loaded kdm and kwin don't get the right fontconfig options, but the rest of the qt widgets and fonts are fine.
[20:59] <lordievader> hellslinger: Perhaps an idea to ask in #kwin?
[20:59] <hellslinger> it happens only when the cedarview driver is loaded, otherwise it works
[20:59] <hellslinger> lordievader: I'll try that, thanks
[21:48] <MySystem> continue backing up broken hd:i fsck -f -c -v /dev/sdd1 and it found bad sektors and updated bad block inode but partitioncopy doesn't work read error, is there another tool to copy the readable data to another hd my only idea is cp but it would cancel at first read error
[21:50] <MySystem1> back
[21:51] <genii-around> MySystem1: If you're familiar with dd  you could try ddrescue
[21:54] <MySystem1> not realy i only used it one time to make a read check dd -if=/dev/sdd1 -of=/dev/null bs=2M
[21:56] <genii-around> MySystem1: The idea with dd is you can use it to make a bit-for-bit copy of something like a raw device ( sdd1) to a file. But it will normally choke also if it hits a bad area. ddrescue will just skip over the bad area if it can.
[21:58] <MySystem1> ok can i specify instead of a target file a target partition like /dev/sde6 (its bigger than the source partition with same fs)
[22:00] <genii-around> MySystem1: There are two ways to use dd/ddrescue with partitions... you can copy the partition to another partition, or you can make a filename on the other partition that is an image of the first one ( that you can loop-mount to see the files inside)
[22:02] <genii-around> MySystem1: the if=  part of dd command is the input-file part, of= is the output-file part. So if you want to copy sdd1 exactly onto sde1 for instance (wiping out any data on sde1 and resizing it as a partition to exaclt the length sdd1 is)  it would be: sudo dd if=/dev/sdd1 of=/dev/sde1     ... if you want to make an image which is a file instead, you use more like of=/path-to-other-mounted-partition/filename.img
[22:03] <genii-around> ( replacing dd with ddrescue in the case where the if=   source part has corruption )
[22:04] <genii-around> MySystem1: There is some help on usage of ddrescue here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Imaging_a_damaged_device.2C_filesystem_or_drive
[22:08] <MySystem1> nice thx
[22:13] <MySystem1> i would try: sudo ddrescue -f -r -1 -v /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde6 /home/mysystem/sdd1_ddrescue_log
[22:13] <MySystem1> or have i forgot something or something to much ?
[22:13] <MySystem1> sdd1 is a 80gb ext3 partition and sde6 is a 100gb ext3 partition
[22:14] <MySystem1> for info sde doesn't contain important data so a complete sde loss isnt such bad
[22:14] <genii-around> MySystem1: After that runs, you'll have 20G out in limbo
[22:15] <MySystem1> what is a limbo
[22:15] <genii-around> But yeah, that should work. Expect it to take a long time
[22:16] <MySystem1> it can take the whole night doesn't matter
[22:16] <genii-around> MySystem1: You'll have to use gparted or something to reclaim the 20G after sde6 becomes 80G big instead of 100
[22:16] <MySystem1> oh ok got limbo can i fix this after ddrescue with the 20gb via kparted or so ?
[22:16] <MySystem1> oh yeah this i ment
[22:17] <MySystem1> nice thats no prob
[22:17] <genii-around> MySystem1: I have to go now, but good luck. I'll be back on tomorrow if you need more help then.
[22:17] <MySystem1> found a error root hasn't write acces at /home/mysystem which path shuold i use for logging
[22:17] <phillw> hi, is there anyone apart from scott and ridell to do with testing of 12.10?
[22:18] <MySystem1> lots of thx genii-around you helped much today (was at my girlfriends pc with Arjuna)
[22:18] <genii-around> phillw: You mean devs or testers?
[22:19] <genii-around> ( I'm testing 12.10 with 4.9.1 right now for instance but i'm not a dev)
[22:19] <phillw> genii-around: just need some one to proof read 3 test cases before they are applied to kubuntu-alternate
[22:20] <phillw> as only lubuntu & kubuntu aer keeping alternate, they are supposedly distro agnostic.
[22:20] <phillw> *are*
[22:21] <phillw> lubuntu have accepted (I'm from lubuntu), I just need someone from kubuntu to say that they have no errors in and then I can assign them on the iso-tracker (I'm a test-case admin as well... for my sins :P )
[22:22] <MySystem1> ok it has started it can take while so lots of thx for help espacely to genii-around iam afk have a nice evening
[22:23] <genii-around> phillw: Have you asked in #kubuntu-devel ?
[22:25] <phillw> I can catch one of them tomorrow, I tried pinging riddel but he is afk. I just forgot to ask them if they were happy with them. no worries, I'll catch one of them tomorrow :)
[23:42] <MySystem1> back with the hd partition copy with ddrescue i used -r -1 and now its retrying bad sectors retry 15 i think this will last forever because of -1 or ? can i cancel without losing all whats copied