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chrisccoulsonoh dear @ bug 1055766 ;)00:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 1055766 in gnome-terminal "grep -R doesn't automatically search amazon" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105576600:13
TheMusoI suspect a troll.00:13
chrisccoulsoni was going to assign it to ayatana-design, before i realized that someone already did that00:14
brycehhehe00:15
RAOFOk.00:20
RAOFlibsane is just plain terrible.00:20
TheMusoKinda ironic given its name. :p00:20
RAOFFor those playing at home: sane_exit() is documented to release all the resources allocated by sane, including its backends.00:22
RAOFThis is a filthy lie.00:22
TheMusoheh00:23
RAOFSpecifically, several backends will leave open a bunch of file descriptors.00:23
sarnoldare the backends "pluggable"?00:23
RAOFAnd then open new ones, each time you sane_get_devices00:23
sarnoldhere's hoping you've got a high ulimit -n :)00:24
RAOFResulting in colord-sane crashing in the eglibc sanity checks on Ubuntu, when it tries to FD_SET the 1025th file descriptor.00:24
sarnold... oof. no way around that. :/00:25
stgrabernothing that can't be solved by a bit of kernel patching ;)00:25
RAOFAnd resulting in colord-sane spinning endlessly in select() on Debian, where the eglibc sanity checks aren't enabled, so it thinks it's *succeeded* in FD_SETing the 1025th file descriptor.00:25
sarnoldstgraber :)00:25
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veebersHas anybody else come across bug #1055906 (Launch terminal shortcut)?02:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 1055906 in gnome-control-center "Two entries for "Launch Terminal" in keyboard shotcuts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105590602:13
robert_ancellmfisch, i'm here02:48
mfischrobert_ancell: hey, I guess xchat is confused02:49
pittiGood morning03:20
pittitkamppeter_: I am now03:20
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pittitkamppeter_: I saw your cups-filters mail, answered04:21
tjaaltonchrisccoulson: hey, mind adding information about your hw to the compiz hang bug?04:22
tjaaltonlike, 'lspci -vnn'04:22
RAOFtjaalton: Is there anything that Chris Wilson particularly wants for that bug? I can occasionally reproduce.04:37
tjaaltonchrisccoulson: iirc he and mdeslaur are able to reproduce it every time the screensaver kicks in, not occasionally :)04:41
tjaaltonkeeping it in bug 1054198 for now04:41
ubot2Launchpad bug 1054198 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Thinkpad T510 doesn't come out of screensaver" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105419804:41
tjaaltonthe older one is getting too much noise..04:42
tjaaltonnot sure if it's something easier to hit on arrandale..04:42
tjaaltonbut I think there's enough info now to update the upstream bug04:43
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didrocksgood morning05:11
pittibonjour didrocks, ça va? feeling any better?05:13
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didrockspitti: guten morgen! Not really better. I have a bronchitis apparently, so medecines and patience…05:14
pittiargh that sounds serious05:15
pittiget well soon then!05:15
didrocksthanks :)05:16
RAOFBoo. Bronchitis sucks.05:16
didrockswell, at least, I don't have fiever or other side effects :)05:17
didrocksjust tired because of coughing…05:17
RAOFOh, you're not lying in bed delirious? SOFT!05:18
RAOFWhat kind of half-arsed bronchitis do you have, anyway :)05:18
didrocksRAOF: well, otherwise, I would be in bed for the past 2 weeks :)05:19
RAOFYou should be in bed anyway!05:20
didrocksprobably :) I'll take the day easy I guess, this night was a little bit ETOONOTENOUGHSLEEPTOOMUCHCOUGHING :)05:21
BigWhaleGood Morning all.05:36
didrockspitti vs glib and armfh, who will win? :)07:00
pittianyone who mentions "glib" to me in the next few days will have to buy me beer!07:00
didrocks:-)07:02
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mitya57larsu: thanks for the reply; so it's OK for the messaging menu to show all actions by default?07:28
chrisccoulsongood morning everyone07:29
didrockshey chrisccoulson07:29
larsumitya57, yeah... it's not optimal, but we decided this way because we didn't want to deviate from the spec07:29
mitya57larsu: that's OK for me. BTW, any thoughts on bug 1055966?07:30
ubot2Launchpad bug 1055966 in ubuntu-mono "New Messaging Menu icons look too small on indicator-applet" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105596607:30
larsumitya57, I'll have a patch in 5 minutes07:31
mitya57larsu: that's more than excellent :)07:31
larsumitya57, for some reason, this doesn't happen in unity-panel...07:31
didrockstaking empathy07:33
dpmhi pitti, good morning! Do you think we could we have an exception on langpack-o-matic for gnome-panel, in the same way we did for banshee? It'd help fixing bug 1055295 until the bug to export universe translations in Launchpad has been fixed07:34
ubot2Launchpad bug 1055295 in gnome-panel "Translation files are no longer installed in quantal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105529507:34
pittidpm: sure; I guess its domain is "gnome-panel"07:34
chrisccoulsonhi didrocks, how are you?07:34
didrockschrisccoulson: still coughing, so a little bit tired :/ (it's a bronchitis, so nothing bad, but will take time to recover)07:35
didrockschrisccoulson: yourself?07:35
dpmpitti, source package: 'gnome-panel', template name: 'gnome-panel-3.0', domain name: 'gnome-panel-3.0'07:36
pittiah, thanks07:36
pittiself.domain_package['gnome-panel-3.0'] = 'gnome-panel'07:37
pittidpm: ^ added07:38
dpmpitti, great, thanks!07:38
mitya57larsu: also, afaics, the icon doesn't turn blue when new messages arrive07:39
larsumitya57, you're the first one to report this. For which application does this happen?07:39
dpmLaney, I think yesterday you mentioned that you'd grep for universe packages that were changed to be translatable in LP. Apart from banshee and gnome-panel, did you find any others?07:40
mitya57pitti, dpm: thanks, right now I've been wondering why that doesn't happen when I build gnome-panel locally :)07:40
mitya57larsu: for unity-mail; I'll now ensure that it's OK in Unity07:41
larsumitya57, is unity-mail calling messaging_menu_app_draw_attention?07:42
larsuthe indicator only turns blue when you call that (some messages should appear in the menu but not make the indicator blue)07:42
mitya57larsu: yes, it does07:43
dpmmitya57, if you're building gnome-panel locally for testing purposes, you can also modify /etc/pkgbinarymangler/striptranslations.conf and set 'enable: false'07:48
dpmthat'll give you the translations07:49
mitya57larsu: ignore that, it's my bug07:49
larsumitya57, awesome, I love those :P07:49
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mitya57dpm: the problem is now solved, but thanks anyway07:49
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Laneyhey07:56
Laneydpm: turned out I couldn't do it07:56
Laneythe lintian lab doesn't have unpacked source packages07:56
dpmLaney, no worries, thanks for the update anyway07:57
seb128hey desktopers07:59
didrockssalut seb12807:59
didrocksseb128: team report reminder!07:59
seb128didrocks, oh, indeed!08:00
seb128thanks ;-)08:00
didrocksyw :)08:00
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pittisalut seb12808:06
pittiOF COURSE! now glib FTBFS on powerpc, after some 10 builds08:07
didrockspoor pitti :)08:07
seb128pitti, salut ! ;-)08:09
seb128pitti, ca va bien ?08:09
pittiseb128: oui! et toi?08:09
seb128ca va bien merci ;-)08:10
mitya57larsu: grabbed the fix from your branch and rebuilt the package, nothing changed...08:13
larsumitya57, you need to restart the panel08:14
mitya57larsu: I've even logged out and then in, as you can see...08:14
larsumitya57, interesting. Do you have the same problem with the power indicator?08:17
larsuhm, your screenshot doesn't have it, I'm guessing you're not on a laptop then...08:18
mitya57I just have it disabled, will now enable it and see08:18
mitya57larsu: what's the gsettings key to enable the power indicator?08:21
larsumitya57, com.canonical.indicator.power icon-policy "present"08:22
larsuor just set it in system settings / power08:22
mitya57gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.power icon-policy "present"08:23
mitya57No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.power'08:23
mitya57ah, I don't have the package installed :)08:23
mitya57larsu: http://ubuntuone.com/7I0fFOMJ8OsoG9oKHikfEb08:28
mitya57it's not as little as the messaging one, but there's still something wrong with it08:28
larsumitya57, looks indeed weird. thanks, I'll have another look08:30
mitya57larsu: please do. I have to go away now, will be back if 20 minutes.08:32
seb128mvo, hey08:35
seb128mvo, do you know about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1054070 ?08:38
ubot2Launchpad bug 1054070 in software-center "software-center-dbus crashed with MemoryError in _dump_bsddbm_for_unity(): (12, 'Cannot allocate memory -- Lock table is out of available locker entries')" [Medium,New]08:38
seb128just hit this one while using the dash08:38
mvoseb128: ohhh08:40
mvoseb128: reproducable?08:40
seb128mvo, I got it 3 times since yesterday, but not easily reproducable08:42
mvoseb128: what steps did you take? maybe I can also trigger it08:42
seb128enough though that I could get you infos in the course of the day most likely08:42
seb128I'm unsure, I played a bit with the shopping stuff08:42
seb128but basically I opened the dash, typed ccsm, closed the dash, reopened it, replaced ccsm by empathy, right clicked on a result and clicked on the buy button08:43
mvoseb128: shopping for products or apps?08:43
seb128the result was an u1 song (without price displayed)08:43
seb128somewhere in the course of those it did hit the bug08:44
mvoseb128: and software-center was open while you did that?08:45
seb128no08:46
seb128I didn't run s-c today08:46
mvointeressting08:46
* didrocks wonders why s-c is asked at all :)08:47
seb128getting apps rating?08:47
mvoyes08:48
didrocksah, right, for ordering the results08:48
chrisccoulsonhey seb128, how are you?08:50
seb128chrisccoulson, hey, I'm good, how are you?08:51
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, not too bad thanks08:51
chrisccoulsonfailing miserably to recreate https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6f6e7669-27db-4315-82f8-0a27a2120923 though ;)08:51
mvoseb128: could you check ~/.cache/software-center/software-center.log for me and see if there is anything this?)08:52
mvoseb128: or simply mail me the file and I look myself :)08:52
seb128mvo, nothing from today in that log08:53
seb128mvo, the timestamp,most recent entry are an sso error from yesterday08:54
seb128software-center-agent.db has files from today though08:54
mvoseb128: ok08:54
pittiglib> armhf (Accepted) -> making progress (armel failed again, gnargh)08:58
seb128mvo, oh08:58
seb128mvo, running /usr/share/software-center/software-center-dbus is enough to get the bug08:59
seb128mvo, could it be that I've too many entries in my sources?08:59
tkamppeterpitti, thanks for the upload, so the sync we will do after beta2 then?08:59
pittiright08:59
pittiI'll sync it tomorrow when LP imported it, but it will sit in the unapproved queue until after b209:00
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didrockstaking gnome-terminal09:05
mvoseb128: could you restart to see if that is still triggering it?09:05
mvoseb128: if so I suspect a corrupted DB09:05
seb128mvo, it does09:06
mvoseb128: if not then I need to look into sizing the locks which feels a bit strange :)09:06
mvoseb128: cool!09:06
seb128mvo, it hits that bug every time I run it09:06
mvoseb128: even after a reboot?09:06
seb128yes09:06
seb128I just booted the box this morning09:06
seb128and it was doing it yesterday already09:06
mvoseb128: could you mail me "~/.cache/software-center/reviews.ubuntu.com_reviews_api_1.0_review-stats-pkgnames.p__5.1.db*" please? tar it up please09:07
mvoseb128: should be one file and one directory09:07
mvoseb128: are you using ecryptfs on /home ?09:08
seb128mvo, you got it09:08
seb128mvo, yes09:08
mvoseb128: cool, thanks09:09
mvoseb128: that was very helpful, I think I get a idea now09:09
seb128mvo, urg, wait, I think I screwed that tarball09:10
mvook, no worries09:10
seb128mvo, sent again09:10
seb128mvo, first try I put source and destination in the wrong order in the tar command, that screwed the file09:11
seb128got it right this time09:11
mvothanks09:11
seb128yw09:12
seb128mvo, let me know if you need extra infos09:12
mvoseb128: hm, looks like the directory is missing? reviews.ubuntu.com_reviews_api_1.0_review-stats-pkgnames.p__5.1.db.dbenv? or do you know have that?09:12
seb128mvo, grrr, I'm not fully awake apparently, you got email :p09:13
* mvo hands seb128 a cup of coffee09:14
seb128mvo, danke!09:14
larsumitya57, can you try this fix please? It hardcodes the icon size to 22px. That's the only way I could find to make it work across panels... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226221/09:15
mitya57larsu: will try now09:15
larsumitya57, fixing the whole indicator icon size mess is high on my list for next cycle09:15
mitya57larsu: should I remove your previous fix or apply both?09:16
larsumitya57, yes, apply the new one on top09:16
mitya57larsu: oh, it seems that the patch wasn't applied when I built the previous package (there's no debian/source/format) :(09:21
larsumitya57, hm. Can you try with only the first patch, then? It *should* work...09:22
larsumitya57, it definitely works with both applied (I tried it in gnome classic)09:22
mitya57larsu: yes, it works with the first one applied!09:24
larsumitya57, very cool :)09:24
mitya57larsu: sorry for not noticing absense of quilt...09:25
larsumitya57, no problem, thanks for testing ;)09:25
didrockstaking gsettings-desktop-schemas and evince09:26
mvoseb128: can you keep the system in the state it is now please? I may ask to run a test for me later09:27
seb128didrocks, \o/09:27
seb128mvo, sure09:27
mvoseb128: could you "bzr get lp:software-center; cd software-center;" and apply "http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226254/" and then run ./software-cneter-dbus and tell me what that outputs in the "print" ?09:36
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seb128mvo, http://ubuntuone.com/0f9uLijLzDXWb7Lx6YvJSE09:43
mvoseb128: thanks! just for completness, can you please kill the first "print"09:45
mvoseb128: I doubt that the seocnd one will be called as the open fails but still worth a shot09:45
seb128mvo, http://ubuntuone.com/0RVEWlJ7MDebyjgRtEbu6409:47
seb128mvo, that's the second print, ignore the fact it doesn't have the 2s09:47
mvoseb128: ok, no crash for you this time?09:48
seb128no09:48
seb128that's weird09:48
seb128hum09:48
mvoseb128: meh, I think some recovery code killed your env :)09:48
seb128the system version works now as well09:49
mvoseb128: there is recovery code for a similar problem already in the code that will blew away the corrupted db09:49
mvoseb128: and the error from lock_stat() triggered that09:49
mvoseb128: oh well09:49
seb128mvo, buggy again (I restored the tar I sent you)09:50
mvoseb128: excellent09:51
seb128mvo, http://ubuntuone.com/09r5lXO74sS7c3TSIIN5W509:51
mvoseb128: oh, that is very interessting09:52
GunnarHjpitti: Hello, I have added a test case (sort of) to the description of bug 1018621, and I think it's ready for precise-proposed.09:52
ubot2Launchpad bug 1018621 in accountsservice ""Language for menus and windows" is not saved if .profile is missing" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101862109:52
pittiGunnarHj: great, thank you!09:55
mvoseb128: does applying http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226285/ help? i.e. will it work or still fail with the same error?09:58
seb128mvo,09:59
seb128__init__.py", line 387, in _dump_bsddbm_for_unity09:59
seb128    flags=bdb.DB_CREATE)09:59
seb128MemoryError: (12, 'Cannot allocate memory -- unable to allocate memory for mutex; resize mutex region')09:59
seb128DEBUG:softwarecenter.backend.spawn_helper:helper_finished: '12158' '0'09:59
mvoseb128: so increasing the limites does not help, same eal?10:00
seb128mvo, indeed10:00
* mvo checks further10:00
chrisccoulsonooh, i've just had a delivery of beer10:05
Laneywoah10:06
Laneyhow do you get beer deliveries?10:06
ogra_and its even just past five (somewhere), so you can drink one !10:06
ogra_Laney, by paying for it ;)10:07
seb128chrisccoulson, which ones did you get this time?10:07
* ogra_ gets water and beer delivered too in germany10:07
Laneywell, I get that you can get it from the supermarket10:07
Laneyand I've heard of wine clubs, but not for beer :O10:07
ogra_and breaking your bask carrying it ...10:07
ogra_*back10:08
seb128you also have less variety in supermarkets that the internet10:08
seb128well I guess it depends where you live10:08
seb128we here the supermarkets have a limited selection of "common" beers10:08
seb128nothing fancy or special10:09
chrisccoulsonseb128, i've got lots of bottles of stout. and i got a whisky cask aged scotch ale too, which sounds nice10:09
ogra_yummy10:09
chrisccoulsoni only got 1 of those though, because it wasn't cheap ;)10:09
mvoseb128: any luck with http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226298/ (you may have to do bzr revert to make it apply cleanly)10:09
chrisccoulson(£15 for a 330ml bottle)10:09
Laney!!!10:10
ogra_nothing you get from any supermarket10:10
seb128mvo,10:10
seb128__init__.py", line 381, in _dump_bsddbm_for_unity10:10
seb128    env.mutex_set_max(4*current_mutex_max)10:10
seb128DBInvalidArgError: (22, "Invalid argument -- DB_ENV->set_mutex_max: method not permitted after handle's open method")10:10
didrocksinternet delivery of traceback :)10:11
seb128mvo, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1226301/10:11
didrocksogra_: do you think mvo has to pay for it too? :)10:11
ogra_in beer !10:11
didrocksheh10:11
mvoseb128: ups, could you move it up before the open please?10:12
mvodidrocks: I will have to pay seb128 when we meet face-to-face next ;)10:12
didrocksheh10:13
seb128mvo, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1226305/10:13
didrocksso internet delivery, IRL payement :)10:13
didrocksinteresting process10:13
mvoseb128: meh, once more please (bzr revert): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226309/ - i.e. setting a mutex size of 4096 or 8192 or something large10:16
pittiGunnarHj: I uploaded this to the unapproved queue, for the SRU team to review10:16
seb128mvo, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1226311/10:17
mvoseb128: oh? still printing a "0" there?10:17
seb128mvo, ?10:18
seb128"*********** 1024"10:18
mvoseb128: aha, that looks better10:18
mvoseb128: but same traceback ?10:18
seb128yes10:18
mvo:(10:18
mvoseb128: thanks a bunch, I give up and simply call it corrupted and re-create it10:18
seb128mvo, ok, so it's a db corruption issue, not an ecryptfs one?10:19
mvoseb128: I don't know :/10:20
mvoseb128: you could move it to /tmp and symlink10:20
mvoseb128: just for fun10:20
seb128mvo, what dir is it?10:20
mvoseb128: and see if moving it outside of ecryptfs makes any difference10:20
seb128mvo, .cache/software-center?10:20
mvoseb128: yeah10:20
seb128mvo, same error10:21
seb128I guess it's really a db corruption10:21
seb128because it fixed itself before with the code which cleaned stuff10:21
seb128I had to restore the buggy dir from my tarball10:21
mvoseb128: yeah, you can try lp:~mvo/software-center/robustness-lp1054070 if you want, that should auto-fix this now10:22
seb128mvo, it did, danke!10:24
mvoseb128: thanks a lot for your help with this one10:26
mvoseb128: sounds like I can have lunch now :)10:27
seb128mvo, huuum, lunch! I should consider that as well ;-) enjoy!10:28
mvoseb128: thanks!10:28
Laneydidrocks: this gtk+2.0 upload basically disables overlay-scrollbar for gtk2?10:54
didrocksLaney: no, it doesn't :) it's just fixing a crash that happened with the previous overlay-scrollbar uploda10:55
didrocks(they call set_overlay)10:55
Laneyit looks to remove a whole load of code10:56
Laneywas that just unused?10:56
Laneythe patch is pretty minimal now10:56
didrocksLaney: yeah, we don't need this special casing anymore (sorry, tracking a lot of things in parallel)11:01
didrocksLaney: tested on geany and ccsm for both pure C and pygtk11:01
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seb128Laney, where do test build webkit?11:05
Laneyseb128: on a cloud instance11:06
seb128Laney, <doko> seb128, please could you add the ubuntu-toolchain-r ppa as a dep to the webkit ppa, and give back webkit?11:06
seb128is that something you can do?11:06
Laneywith no other source changes to the webkit?11:06
seb128right11:06
Laneyi'll just make a new ppa and copy it there11:06
seb128thanks11:07
Laneynp11:07
seb128Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+bug/1043507/comments/1211:07
ubot2Launchpad bug 1043507 in binutils "webkit build fails on binutils limitation" [Medium,In progress]11:07
Laneydidrocks: perhaps then you could copy current gtk to release and I will accept the new one11:07
didrocksLaney: oh, overlay-scrollbar migrated to release?11:08
Laneyno11:08
Laneyit migrated to heaven11:08
didrocksI don't get you then :)11:08
Laneyit should be reuploaded to proposed11:08
didrocksLaney: hum, why was it removed?11:09
chrisccoulsondidrocks, because it destroyed thunderbird ;)11:09
Laneybecause it made thunderbird explode11:09
Laneyprobably fixed with this new gtk, right?11:09
didrockschrisccoulson: really? I shutted down thunderbird and restarted it11:09
didrocksso not sure how to really test thunderbird11:09
chrisccoulsondidrocks, it made it crash on startup for me and everybody else :/11:09
LaneyI just had to open it with the overlay-scrollbar that was in propoesd11:09
chrisccoulsonit even made the crash reporter crash too ;)11:10
didrockschrisccoulson: how to be sure thunderbird really stop running without logging out?11:10
seb128ps ax | grep thunderbird?11:10
didrockschrisccoulson: I still have thunderbird hanging a lot at session closing, even if I stopped it 2h ago…11:10
chrisccoulson:(11:10
didrocksseb128: IIRC, I killed thunerbird-bin11:10
chrisccoulsonthat should be sufficient11:10
seb128here when tb hangs it prevents me to open a new ui11:10
didrocksweird11:10
seb128so I notice it :p11:10
didrocksseb128: yeah, and it was the case yesterday11:11
didrocksseb128: then I killed thunderbird-bin11:11
didrocksand didn't get any crash11:11
seb128weird, dunno about that then11:11
didrocksjust did it again (but with the new gtk, so can't compare this time), and no crash as well11:11
didrocksLaney: uploading back overlay-scrollbar to -proposed then?11:11
Laneydidrocks: if it's really fixed by gtk2 ...11:11
didrocksLaney: well, working here, but after yesterday's test, not sure11:12
Laneydo it, I'll test11:12
didrocksLaney: I can just say that geany and ccsm were crashing11:12
didrocksand not anymore11:12
Laneywill reject if it's still broken11:12
didrocksok :)11:12
didrocksLaney: uploaded11:14
Laneyty11:14
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* ken[empathy] waves13:37
ken[empathy]anyone know why launching xchat-gnome pegs my system?13:38
ken[empathy](xchat-gnome:2934): Gdk-WARNING **: Native Windows wider or taller than 65535 pixels are not supported13:38
ken[empathy]i suspect that has something to do with it13:38
ken[empathy]X was using more than 8G of mem13:38
seb128ken[empathy], urg13:38
ken[empathy]seb128: suspect anything?13:39
ken[empathy]good morning seb128 :)13:39
* ken[empathy] sees a gtk2 update13:39
ken[empathy]maybe it's fixed...13:39
seb128ken[empathy], gconftool --get /apps/xchat/main_window/height13:40
seb128that and /apps/xchat/main_window/width13:40
ken[empathy]3276713:40
ken[empathy]nice13:40
seb128that would be it13:40
seb128not sure how you landed in that state though13:40
ken[empathy]weird13:40
ken[empathy]it was fine last night ...13:40
seb128it's supposed to store the geometry on changes13:40
seb128compiz maybe went crazy or something13:41
davidcalleseb128, ken[empathy], I had the same this morning, on Agave too, so I supsected gtk2. Downgrading the gtk2 update didn't fixed it., though, I think it went away after a liboverlay scrollbar downgrade. But can't confirm, I did a lot of changes.13:42
ken[empathy]ok... this is worse13:42
ken[empathy]i set it to 80013:42
ken[empathy]verified the change applied13:42
ken[empathy]and started again13:42
ken[empathy]and it reset the value13:42
ken[empathy]back to 3276713:43
ken[empathy]i got this before my morning update13:43
ken[empathy]i just applied the gtk2 update, after seeing this13:44
davidcalleThinking more about it, liboverlay scrollbar is probably involved, all gtk2 apps were affected, but not Synaptic as root.13:46
kenvandineseb128, confirmed... overlay-scrollbar downgrade from 0.2.16+r356-0ubuntu1 -> 0.2.16+r353-0ubuntu2 fixed it13:47
kenvandinewhew13:47
kenvandinethat version seems to have been removed from -proposed :)13:47
Laneya surprising number of people use proposed in the dev release13:48
Laneyyou're not supposed to  :P13:48
* kenvandine needs to :)13:48
Laneyyou should probably pin it away and just take what you want13:48
kenvandineweird how scrollbars are making it reset that gconf key13:48
Laneykenvandine: are you on amd64?13:49
Laneyfancy testing the new gtk2 with that overlay-scrollbar?13:49
=== mpt_ is now known as mpt
* iain waves from xchat-gnome13:52
iainseems to work here13:53
kenvandineLaney, yes13:53
kenvandineLaney, i'd be happy to13:53
Laneyok, just restarting then I'll put it up13:53
kenvandinegreat13:53
didrockspitti: hey! So I have libunity.so.9 where I added some calls13:54
didrockspitti: pygi sees the new symbols, life is good13:54
didrockspitti: however, after import Unity, and trying to call this new symbol, I get: GError: Could not locate unity_lens_preferences_manager_get_default: libunity.soso: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory13:54
didrocksliunity.soso?13:54
didrockslibunity*13:55
jbichawhy do I see Google Docs results in "Files & Folders" in the Dash Home, but not the Files lens?13:57
seb128mhr3, ^13:58
jbichaI was going to mention it in ubuntu-docs on the files lens page but it needs to be in the files lens for that to make sense13:59
davidcallejbicha, don't you see them *after* you local files results?13:59
davidcallejbicha, or before actually, it can't be one or the other...13:59
davidcallejbicha, results are not merged (yet?), first scope to pass data is the first displayed.14:01
didrockspitti: ah, better, it was multiarch related :)14:01
seb128didrocks, no multiarch for you14:02
Laneykenvandine: http://people.canonical.com/~laney/goodstuff/14:02
mhr3jbicha, sounds like a bug in the scope14:02
jbichayeah, the gdocs scope is a bit buggy14:03
jbichaIs the files lens supposed to have a Sources>Local/Online filter for 12.10?14:04
pittididrocks: sorry, was afk for a bit, figured it out?14:04
didrockspitti: yeah, the issue was due to multiarch :)14:07
iainkenvandine, I can't reproduce that bug. And thunderbird works fine, so I'm inclined to let these updates into proposed if you verify14:08
kenvandineLaney, just a minute :)14:09
Laneyno rush, just saying it WFM14:09
LaneyI get no scrollbar in the main xchat window though, is that intentional?14:10
Laneythere is one in the channel tree14:10
kenvandineLaney, xchat or xchat-gnome?14:16
Laney-gnome14:16
kenvandinei haven't installed you updates yet... and i get them14:16
kenvandineso not intentional :)14:16
Laneywell, see if it changes after you do14:16
kenvandineyeah14:16
* kenvandine tests14:16
kenvandineLaney, works for me14:21
didrockspitti: however, I would enjoy if you can explain in which circumstance we need to use foo.get_properties("foo") or directly obj.foo :)14:21
Laneykenvandine: rocking14:21
kenvandineand i have the scrollbar in the main chat window14:21
Laneyuser error, that's what I like to hear14:21
kenvandinehehe :)14:21
kenvandineindeed14:21
Laneyok, cool14:22
pittididrocks: you mean get_property()?14:25
pittididrocks: foo.get_property("propname") and foo.props.name should always be identical14:25
pittididrocks: foo.name only works for properties that you define in a Python class, AFAIK14:26
didrockspitti: ah, ok, got it :)14:28
didrockspitti: thanks!14:28
pittididrocks: de rien :)14:28
GunnarHjpitti: You wrote: "I uploaded [the fix of bug 1018621] to the unapproved queue, for the SRU team to review"14:35
ubot2Launchpad bug 1018621 in accountsservice ""Language for menus and windows" is not saved if .profile is missing" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101862114:35
GunnarHjpitti: I saw it there; Thanks!14:35
didrocksI hate vala14:43
didrocksI hate vala14:43
didrocksI hate vala14:43
desrt_didrocks: i love you14:44
desrt_is that how the song goes?14:44
=== desrt_ is now known as desrt
didrocksdesrt: in addition to that, I'm messing with gsettings in vala :)14:46
desrtcool.  anything i can help with?14:46
didrocksdesrt: not sure, the issue is not related to gsettings14:46
didrocksjust the story14:46
* Laney did some of that in his shopping lens branch14:46
GunnarHjjbicha: Hi Jeremy! Considering that we are short of time, did you see the update of https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu-docs/guest-session-fix/+merge/124196 ? Is it ok now?14:46
didrocksI have an enum14:46
Laney(which is unreviewed *cough*)14:46
didrocksI store the values as int into gsettings14:47
didrocksso, I thought using bind_with_mapping was a good idea14:47
didrockshowever, the vala compiles, not the c14:47
jbichaGunnarHj: yes, it's on my queue for today14:47
didrocksapparently vala doesn't like functions having 2 delegates but just one user_data14:47
GunnarHjjbicha: Great!14:47
seb128Laney, what branch?14:48
desrtdidrocks: ah yes14:48
desrtdidrocks: long-known issue14:49
seb128Laney, seems like didrocks might be working on the same thing14:49
Laneyoh?14:49
Laneyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~laney/unity-lens-shopping/gsettings-toggle/+merge/12589914:49
seb128didrocks, ^14:49
desrtit would actually prefer the 3 arguments (func, func, data) to be 6 ((func, data, destroy), (func, data, destroy))14:49
didrocksLaney: hum, no, that's not how design is asking for this14:50
didrocksLaney: who asked you to do it?14:51
Laneynobody14:51
LaneyI did that FOSS thing :P14:51
didrocksah, it's better to always check with design :)14:51
Laneyit was a sunday evening job14:51
LaneyI don't care if it gets rejected, the idea is more important14:51
didrocksLaney: the code will be different, the keys are in libunity properly14:51
didrocksand global to all lenses14:51
LaneyI suggested that in that MP14:52
Laneyso, good14:52
didrocks:)14:52
* didrocks now changes the excellent bin() from desrt to a boring change signal listening because of that14:52
desrtdidrocks: what mapping are you trying to do?14:53
didrocksdesrt: just a int (from gsettings) -> vala enum14:55
ricotzdidrocks, are you trying to use bind_with_mapping ?14:55
desrtdidrocks: why not use a string?14:55
desrtstoring ints in gsettings is a fauxpas14:55
didrocksricotz: yeah14:55
didrocksdesrt: hum, why?14:55
desrt(for this sort of thing, i mean)14:55
didrocksdesrt: we want a 3-way state14:55
desrtdidrocks: hear me out14:55
ricotzdidrocks, this is broken in 0.16 but you can add a custom binding for it14:56
desrtthe usual arrangement for this is to have a proper gobject-visible enum type14:56
didrocksricotz: oh? snippet of code? (but still listening to desrt :))14:56
ricotzdidrocks, it got "kind of" fixed in 0.1814:56
desrtthen to have a string value in gsettings14:56
desrtdidrocks: if you bind a string value in gsettings to a gobject property with enum type it will automatically do the correct thing14:56
desrtie: if your enum choices are 'foo' 'bar' and 'baz' then those are the values that will be in gsettings14:56
didrocksdesrt: oh, I didn't know that14:56
ricotzdidrocks, http://paste.debian.net/plain/19286514:57
didrocksdesrt: so, just a value with type s14:57
didrocksbinding that14:57
didrocksand it's all automagic?14:57
didrocksricotz: thanks!14:57
desrtdidrocks: yup14:58
desrtbind() is cooler than you think :)14:58
desrtand so is vala :)14:58
ricotzdidrocks, but you just need that for custom types14:58
didrocksdesrt: let me see it working before being full of joy :)14:59
desrtfair enough14:59
desrtjust make sure you declare the enum in vala with 'enum' and use that actual type on the property14:59
seb128desrt, btw do you have any clue about https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=683103 ?14:59
desrtotherwise it won't know what names to use14:59
ubot2Gnome bug 683103 in Server "schema listing is incorrect" [Normal,Unconfirmed]14:59
desrtthis is silly15:00
seb128desrt,15:00
seb128$ gsettings set org.gnome.Vino authentication-methods ['none']1-5:unknown keyword15:00
desrtseb128: insufficient escaping there15:00
desrt"['none']"15:00
seb128doh ;-)15:00
desrtbut it's actually stupid that this list 'none' as a valid choice15:01
desrtthe proper way to denote none is []15:01
seb128and dconf-editor fails to edit it as well15:01
didrocksdesrt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226784/15:01
seb128but that might be a bug in the editor15:01
didrocksdesrt: not really what I hoped :)15:01
desrtyes.  wouldn't be the first :)15:01
didrocksI should try without default value15:01
didrocksto see if it matches :)15:01
desrtdidrocks: it will be "all" in lowercase15:01
didrocksdesrt: ah ok :)15:02
jbichakenvandine: I haven't filed a bug for this yet, but it's annoying that Online Accounts shows up in Alt-Tab & the launcher as Empathy15:03
didrocksdesrt: but but, it even work!15:03
desrtdidrocks: you can also complete the cycle with a bit more work... you can wire up glib-mkenums to pick the enum declaraiton out of the .h files generated by vala and write a .xml file describing the choices in the enum15:03
didrocks(checked with a none default value too ;))15:03
desrtdidrocks: then the editor will give you a nice drop-down menu15:03
kenvandinethere is a bug for that already15:03
desrtdidrocks: or you could do it the easy way and just have some <choice> tags in the schema15:04
kenvandinejbicha, ^^15:04
desrtdidrocks: nice :)15:04
didrocksdesrt: let me add the <choice> tags :)15:04
jbichakenvandine: good, I get tired of filing bugs some times :)15:04
didrocksdesrt: thanks for the hint! really useful :)15:04
didrocksricotz: I think I'll prefer that solution then15:04
kenvandinenot that anyone has looked at it..15:04
didrocksmhr3: FYI, it will be a string then ^15:04
kenvandineit must be a bamf bug though15:04
desrtlike this: <choices><choice value='all'/><choice value='some'/><choice value='none'/></choices>15:04
didrocksdesrt: you got 2 of the options I expose, how did you guess them? :-)15:05
desrt:)15:05
jbichakenvandine: after adding a new account, do I have to log out & back in for that account to show up in the gwibber lens?15:06
didrocksok, I still don't like vala, but gsettings is even more awesome than I thought :)15:06
kenvandinejbicha, you shouldn't15:06
desrtdidrocks: vala does the favour of registering the enum choices with gobject15:06
kenvandineif it doesn't, try doing a search15:06
desrtdidrocks: that's what makes this magic work...15:06
desrtdidrocks: in plain C you'd have had to do it manually or using glib-mkenums15:06
jbichakenvandine: doing a search doesn't help; I already had Google, but adding Facebook or Identi.ca doesn't show up until I log out15:08
didrocksdesrt: interesting :)15:08
jbichait shows up in Gwibber, just not the lens15:08
desrtdidrocks: if you look at the generated C you will see some array like so: static const GEnumValue values[] = {{FOO_bar, "FOO_bar", "bar"}, {FOO_baz, "FOO_baz", "baz"}, {FOO_quux, "FOO_quux", "quux"}, {0, NULL, NULL}};15:08
desrtthis is what gsettings uses for the mapping15:08
mhr3didrocks, as long as it's exposed as enum to lenses ;)15:09
ricotzdidrocks, yeah, as i said this is only needed for custom types, bind works fine if you follow the naming-specs15:10
desrtdidrocks: one last thing: there is g_settings_get/set_enum().  Those will not work for you as you have it setup here.15:10
didrocksdesrt: excellent, so it's position independent15:10
desrtdidrocks: for that to work you need to define the enum in the gsettings (either via glib-mkenums as mentioned before, or manually)15:10
kenvandinejbicha, bug... please file that :)15:11
desrtcould be an interesting option for vala to generate that information....15:11
desrtdidrocks: yes.  this is exactly the point.  storing ints for enum values in settings has all kinds of problems15:11
desrtdidrocks: the enum could change order and it's more confusing to the user15:11
didrocksdesrt: that's right. It's a really nice feature (and unexcepected) feature :)15:12
desrtdidrocks: btw.  i notice that you have dconf-editor on the CD by default now...15:12
desrtand i know you have this excuse about migration scripts or something like that15:13
desrtbut i know the real reason15:13
didrocksdesrt: yeah, we needed the dconf binary :)15:13
didrocksit's the real reason15:13
didrocksofficial, only one :)15:13
desrtexcuses15:13
* desrt knows the real real reason :)15:13
didrocksand I didn't want to split the package15:13
didrocksdesrt: you know me, I'm lazy, just hardly working 10 minutes a day :)15:13
desrthere's a hint: next, you will want dconf-editor in the launcher by default15:13
didrocksdesrt: and a migration script to ensure everyone has it in the launcher by default!15:14
didrocks:)15:14
Laneydidrocks: how's this going to be exposed then?15:14
seb128desrt, because we love robert_ancell that much?15:14
Laneysomewhere in g-c-c?15:14
desrtseb128: no.  because we love julie :)15:14
seb128desrt, that's a better reason ;-)15:14
didrocksLaney: yep, appearance or privacy panel, still dealing with design15:14
didrocksLaney: the property is handled in libunity15:14
didrocksLaney: and all lenses are listening to it :)15:15
Laneynice, that's pretty much what I proposed but didn't want to implement :P15:15
didrocksheh :)15:15
Laneyseems like a good step15:15
didrocksLaney: so, it will cut down the recommends in other lenses as well15:15
Laneyoh?15:16
Laneyyou perhaps want to take over bug #1054746 for this, if you don't have one already15:17
ubot2Launchpad bug 1054746 in unity-lens-shopping "No easy way to disable (results from) this lens" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105474615:17
didrocksLaney: ah excellent, had no but, indeed :)15:17
seb128kenvandine, didrocks, chrisccoulson, Ursinha, Laney, mlankhorst, cyphermox, mterry, tkamppeter, robru: it's meeting time in 10 minutres if anyone has a topic (none on the wiki so far), also please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-09-25 with things you worked on this week for those who didn't write anything yet15:21
mlankhorstback at home, had xdc2012 last week, was fun :-)15:37
* Laney looks forward to the trip report ;-)15:38
* mlankhorst seriously doesn't know what to put in it, demo crashed (half expected), had some good talks with intel and got some supar seekrit info from nvidia dev there15:39
didrocksdesrt: does GSETTINGS_SCHEMA_DIR still supposed to work? (just pointed to a dir where you have the schema files)15:43
didrocksseems the case, just need to compile them though15:45
mlankhorstoh and i need to sign up for steam4linux it seems15:46
desrtdidrocks: yup15:46
stgrabermterry: your name is in the changelog for the webapps-applications package. I'm going to do an emergency upload in 30min for bug 1056274 unless someone gives me a better fix by then.15:50
ubot2Launchpad bug 1056274 in webapps-applications "Icons are getting added on Edubuntu systems even though we override the system wide key" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105627415:50
mterrystgraber, ah...  hmm..   shoot sorry15:52
kenvandinestgraber, seems OK to me15:52
stgraberI think the proper fix would be to check the existing system wide value and only add the launchers listed in there, but I don't have time to spend to implement that15:53
mterrystgraber, yeah seems like a decent workaround, but I've set the bug to affect upstream too so they can maybe come up with something more targetted long term15:53
stgrabermterry: looks like the non-UDD branch is behind the UDD branch, so I'll just push to the UDD branch and let you resync the ~ubuntu-desktop one when you have a moment15:58
mterrystgraber, updated ~ubuntu-desktop15:59
stgrabermterry: ok, thanks. Let me push there then15:59
mterrystgraber, sorry, last friday was busy15:59
stgrabermterry: hmm, your changelog entry in the branch is wrong. It should be quantal-proposed, not quantal. I'll fix that when pushing my change.16:02
* mterry is awful at this16:02
mterryI bet that was from my PPA upload which doesn't accept quantal-proposed16:03
tedgmterry, Hmm, I kinda have a brown paper bag issue... since it's a build issue, do you want me to do a release?  https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/libpam-freerdp/link-fix/+merge/12628216:03
mterrytedg, sure16:04
stgrabermterry: pushed to the branch and uploaded16:04
* mterry hugs stgraber16:05
tedgmterry, Are you trying to keep the build-deps in alphabetical order?16:13
mterrytedg, heh yeah I may have done that last upload16:13
Laneywrap-and-sort is a sweet tool for that16:13
mterrysounds like me16:13
tedgmterry, Ah, no issue, I just wanted to avoid conflicts so doing it the same way.16:14
mterryLaney, yeah  :)16:14
tedgIt took me a few minutes to figure out what the pattern was :-)16:14
mterry"What is Mike doing?!"16:14
tedgI thought it was "build tools" then "libs" and then "other" -- but it turns out that's just because they're basically "debian", "lib*", "rest of alphabet"  ;-)16:15
=== Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk
seb128didrocks, mterry: is there any plan to make quickly stop using launchpad-integration?16:41
didrocksseb128: I think it's removed upstream16:42
seb128didrocks, means it will land in quantal or next cycle?16:42
didrocksI think it's already landed, but maybe just the dep has not been removed16:43
didrockslet me check16:43
didrocksseb128: yeah, it's a leftover, I can upload and remove it now if needed16:45
seb128didrocks, no hurry but it would be good to drop before quantal, I'm trying to kick lpi out :p16:46
didrockscan do now, not taking a long time :)16:46
didrocksand done16:47
seb128didrocks, 'ci16:47
didrocksseb128: de rien :)16:47
* mterry was having lunch, but ya'll got it16:48
mterrydidrocks, quickly has a lot of dependencies it can probably drop16:49
mterrydidrocks, still carrying gtk2 deps for benefit of upgrading authors16:49
didrocksmterry: yeah, I imagine so16:49
didrocksmterry: you packaged it lately! your fault? :)16:49
mterrydidrocks, eh, I figured maybe some users in 12.04 still haven't switched...16:54
Sweetsharkdesrt: ping?16:58
* didrocks waves good evening :)17:06
mterrydidrocks, bye@!17:06
didrocksmterry: see you!17:06
mterrytedg, so old libpam-freerdp builds fine.  what is the issue this branch fixes?  it doesn't work once installed, because it can't find symbols/17:11
mterry?17:11
seb128jbicha, hey, can you hack https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sync/+bug/1043379 for the doc team?17:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 1043379 in ubuntu-mono "[UIFe] sync indicator should use ubuntuone-client-* icons + new paused icon needed" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:13
seb128jbicha, it's adding a new icon for indicator-sync which is not installed by default so it should not create any issue17:13
pgranerseb128, anyone reporting issues with nvidia binary and quasi-transparent windows17:15
seb128pgraner, not that I read about17:15
seb128bryceh, tseliot: ^?17:16
LaneyUIF only applies to default apps17:16
seb128Laney, well, ubuntu-mono is on the CD17:16
seb128Laney, and that's where the icon is added17:16
Laneybut it doesn't change any part of the default UI?17:17
seb128no17:17
pgranerseb128, hmmm I'm seeing it on my desktop box after updates today, for example things like the printer-config app show in the launcher but all you get are the borders of the window and they are not clickable it just passes thru to the window underneath17:17
Laneyseems alright to me then17:17
seb128pgraner, did you upgrade the driver?17:17
seb128Laney, ok, I was unsure, thanks17:17
pgranerseb128, I'll have to look but I don't think so17:17
Laneyalso you want New for unacked release team requests17:17
Laneythe queue is large so we can't be sure to notice new stuff appearing in the middle17:18
seb128Laney, makes sense17:19
brycehhaven't heard problems like that with nvidia, let me check bug reports17:19
brycehpgraner, what version of nvidia?17:19
brycehnope no bug reports against -nvidia describing transparency17:20
pgranerseb128, looks like last driver update for me was on the 20th nvidia-current:amd64 304.43-0ubuntu517:20
seb128pgraner, what did you upgrade in the run between the working and buggy system?17:20
jbichaseb128: indicator-sync was rejected by the Release Team for inclusion by default in Quantal, right?17:21
seb128jbicha, correct, but it's still in universe17:21
seb128jbicha, Laney says I don't need a FFe for universe17:21
seb128jbicha, so unping ;-)17:21
bryceh304.43 got a lot of community usage before it went in, so maybe doubtful it's the cause here.  But we have a 304.48 and 304.51 with some fixes if you'd like to test.17:22
jbichayeah, it won't affect ubuntu-docs or the Manual then17:22
Laneynot universe, the criteria is "default UI"17:23
pgranerseb128, from dpkg.log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1227034/17:24
seb128Laney, right17:25
Laney;-)17:26
seb128pgraner, quite some upgrade, nothing especially suspect though ... is that a one time thing? did you try to restart a second time?17:26
pgranerseb128, yep, does it every time with quite a few apps, I first noticed it on virt-manager17:26
seb128:-(17:27
bizhanMonaHI all, according to this URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-June/035445.html  Ubuntu is planning to not to use GRUB 2 for UEFI secure boot. Is this still standing? Thx17:29
seb128bizhanMona, no it's not17:30
Laneyno, see the Canonical blog and ubuntu-devel this week17:30
pgranerseb128, here is a screenshot if it helps http://frylock.redvoodoo.org/~pgraner/screenshot.png17:30
seb128bizhanMona, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-September/035907.html17:31
bizhanMonaseb128: thanks so much what a relief..17:31
seb128bizhanMona, you're welcome17:31
seb128pgraner, try asking the #ubuntu-unity guys or #ps ...17:32
pgranerseb128, ack, I was afraid of that17:33
=== Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha
chrisccoulsoni'm sure that the edge resistance between my 2 monitors in unity only seems to work occasionally18:42
chrisccoulsonevery time i want to reveal the launcher, it takes me about 5 or 6 attempts, because there is no edge resistance :/18:42
jbichakenvandine: is there a bug for the gwibber lens icon issue yet?19:13
tedgmterry, Well, not working... it doesn't link in the code that actually does the work.  It builds it, but doesn't ship it.19:15
tedgmterry, PAM handles that well in that there are no errors, but there is no auth.19:15
mterrytedg, k.  I uploaded to quantal-proposed, it'll find its way in19:15
chrisccoulsonsigh, more packages to uninstall after doing a dist-upgrade :/19:17
tedgmterry, Great, thanks!19:17
kenvandinejbicha, yeah19:30
kenvandinejbicha, bug 105619119:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 1056191 in ayatana-design "[UIFe] Social Lens doesn't have authorised and meaningful icon" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105619119:32
jbichakenvandine: I take it that it didn't actually land by EOD today?19:33
kenvandinenope19:33
kenvandinethey said first thing tomorrow now19:33
jbichakenvandine: ok, I gave it a +1 if they still use a bird icon19:41
kenvandinethx19:41
jbichaI assume they probably weren't planning to use a bird...19:42
kenvandinedunno19:42
kenvandinethey actually kind of liked the old one19:42
kenvandinewhich was bird like19:42
kenvandineso maybe they will do something similar19:43
chrisccoulsonhuh, wtf, https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/07383953-3dfa-4ea9-8c31-2c6072120922 ?19:46
chrisccoulsondear appmenu-gtk, please stop crashing firefox, thank you!19:46
dupondjeMaby somebody around here that could help me with a GTK+ issue (trying to fix some issue in Remmina)20:09
Laneythe battery low icon isn't red any more?21:07
m0nsterhello... im looking for some help21:08
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Sweetsharkdesrt: piing?22:16
jasoncwarner_hey bryceh RAOF TheMuso and robert_ancell https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-09-2523:02
* bryceh waves23:03
jasoncwarner_hey bryceh23:03
TheMusoGood $TIMEOFDAY folks.23:04
RAOFYo23:04
brycehRAOF, the experimental drivers for precise-proposed are currently in NEW; I'm hoping infinity can get them approved soonish.  Then can you help with getting them through SRU?  The TB approved expediting them, esp. since they'll be new packages.23:05
RAOFCool. Will do so.23:05
brycehwe'll also have jockey and nvidia-common changes, which will go through normal (non-expedited) SRU process, but they're also simple and am hoping we can get them through quickly23:06
brycehnext topic...  mesa 9.  Is the plan to get it landed post beta2?23:06
RAOFThat is my thinking23:07
brycehokie doke, do we anticipate any trouble getting it in?  I've encouraged the Intel/mesa folks to get it tagged asap.23:07
brycehnext topic...  lts point release.  I'm thinking it's about time to start soliciting testers...23:09
RAOFI don't think so? Its a normal bugfixy thing23:09
RAOFWhen's the 12.04.2 date?23:10
bryceh3+ months out, dunno exact date offhand23:10
RAOFWe probably can start soliciting testers, but I don't think it's urgent23:10
brycehJan 31st23:10
RAOFK23:11
* RAOF needs to head out to Zoë appointment. Back in ~45 min?23:11
brycehI don't have any other topics23:13
brycehRAOF, I'll ping you when the SRU stuff is ready to be looked at23:13
RAOFCool23:15
jbicharobert_ancell: could you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/gdm/fix-gdm-packaging-lp1055292/+merge/12614123:29
jbichaI don't understand that code23:29
robert_ancelljbicha, I don't understand it either :) I copied it off gdm in the first place, I guess it's come full circle23:30
jbichalol23:30
robert_ancellmy guess is the lightdm one was fixed more than the gdm one, so I guess the change is good?23:31
jbichayeah I guess23:35
xnoxha =) this is awesome. It's like http://bugs.debian.org/379198 all over again =)23:52
xnoxbasically shell/debconf does not have equivalent of python's mydictionary.get(dm_answer, only_one_available) instead you get none set.23:53
jbichaxnox: oh, so you understand it?23:59

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