=== stgraber_ is now known as stgraber [00:13] oh dear @ bug 1055766 ;) [00:13] Launchpad bug 1055766 in gnome-terminal "grep -R doesn't automatically search amazon" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1055766 [00:13] I suspect a troll. [00:14] i was going to assign it to ayatana-design, before i realized that someone already did that [00:15] hehe [00:20] Ok. [00:20] libsane is just plain terrible. [00:20] Kinda ironic given its name. :p [00:22] For those playing at home: sane_exit() is documented to release all the resources allocated by sane, including its backends. [00:22] This is a filthy lie. [00:23] heh [00:23] Specifically, several backends will leave open a bunch of file descriptors. [00:23] are the backends "pluggable"? [00:23] And then open new ones, each time you sane_get_devices [00:24] here's hoping you've got a high ulimit -n :) [00:24] Resulting in colord-sane crashing in the eglibc sanity checks on Ubuntu, when it tries to FD_SET the 1025th file descriptor. [00:25] ... oof. no way around that. :/ [00:25] nothing that can't be solved by a bit of kernel patching ;) [00:25] And resulting in colord-sane spinning endlessly in select() on Debian, where the eglibc sanity checks aren't enabled, so it thinks it's *succeeded* in FD_SETing the 1025th file descriptor. [00:25] stgraber :) === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [02:13] Has anybody else come across bug #1055906 (Launch terminal shortcut)? [02:13] Launchpad bug 1055906 in gnome-control-center "Two entries for "Launch Terminal" in keyboard shotcuts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1055906 [02:48] mfisch, i'm here [02:49] robert_ancell: hey, I guess xchat is confused [03:20] Good morning [03:20] tkamppeter_: I am now === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [04:21] tkamppeter_: I saw your cups-filters mail, answered [04:22] chrisccoulson: hey, mind adding information about your hw to the compiz hang bug? [04:22] like, 'lspci -vnn' [04:37] tjaalton: Is there anything that Chris Wilson particularly wants for that bug? I can occasionally reproduce. [04:41] chrisccoulson: iirc he and mdeslaur are able to reproduce it every time the screensaver kicks in, not occasionally :) [04:41] keeping it in bug 1054198 for now [04:41] Launchpad bug 1054198 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Thinkpad T510 doesn't come out of screensaver" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1054198 [04:42] the older one is getting too much noise.. [04:42] not sure if it's something easier to hit on arrandale.. [04:43] but I think there's enough info now to update the upstream bug === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth [05:11] good morning [05:13] bonjour didrocks, ça va? feeling any better? === Mirv_ is now known as Mirv [05:14] pitti: guten morgen! Not really better. I have a bronchitis apparently, so medecines and patience… [05:15] argh that sounds serious [05:15] get well soon then! [05:16] thanks :) [05:16] Boo. Bronchitis sucks. [05:17] well, at least, I don't have fiever or other side effects :) [05:17] just tired because of coughing… [05:18] Oh, you're not lying in bed delirious? SOFT! [05:18] What kind of half-arsed bronchitis do you have, anyway :) [05:19] RAOF: well, otherwise, I would be in bed for the past 2 weeks :) [05:20] You should be in bed anyway! [05:21] probably :) I'll take the day easy I guess, this night was a little bit ETOONOTENOUGHSLEEPTOOMUCHCOUGHING :) [05:36] Good Morning all. [07:00] pitti vs glib and armfh, who will win? :) [07:00] anyone who mentions "glib" to me in the next few days will have to buy me beer! [07:02] :-) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell [07:28] larsu: thanks for the reply; so it's OK for the messaging menu to show all actions by default? [07:29] good morning everyone [07:29] hey chrisccoulson [07:29] mitya57, yeah... it's not optimal, but we decided this way because we didn't want to deviate from the spec [07:30] larsu: that's OK for me. BTW, any thoughts on bug 1055966? [07:30] Launchpad bug 1055966 in ubuntu-mono "New Messaging Menu icons look too small on indicator-applet" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1055966 [07:31] mitya57, I'll have a patch in 5 minutes [07:31] larsu: that's more than excellent :) [07:31] mitya57, for some reason, this doesn't happen in unity-panel... [07:33] taking empathy [07:34] hi pitti, good morning! Do you think we could we have an exception on langpack-o-matic for gnome-panel, in the same way we did for banshee? It'd help fixing bug 1055295 until the bug to export universe translations in Launchpad has been fixed [07:34] Launchpad bug 1055295 in gnome-panel "Translation files are no longer installed in quantal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1055295 [07:34] dpm: sure; I guess its domain is "gnome-panel" [07:34] hi didrocks, how are you? [07:35] chrisccoulson: still coughing, so a little bit tired :/ (it's a bronchitis, so nothing bad, but will take time to recover) [07:35] chrisccoulson: yourself? [07:36] pitti, source package: 'gnome-panel', template name: 'gnome-panel-3.0', domain name: 'gnome-panel-3.0' [07:36] ah, thanks [07:37] self.domain_package['gnome-panel-3.0'] = 'gnome-panel' [07:38] dpm: ^ added [07:38] pitti, great, thanks! [07:39] larsu: also, afaics, the icon doesn't turn blue when new messages arrive [07:39] mitya57, you're the first one to report this. For which application does this happen? [07:40] Laney, I think yesterday you mentioned that you'd grep for universe packages that were changed to be translatable in LP. Apart from banshee and gnome-panel, did you find any others? [07:40] pitti, dpm: thanks, right now I've been wondering why that doesn't happen when I build gnome-panel locally :) [07:41] larsu: for unity-mail; I'll now ensure that it's OK in Unity [07:42] mitya57, is unity-mail calling messaging_menu_app_draw_attention? [07:42] the indicator only turns blue when you call that (some messages should appear in the menu but not make the indicator blue) [07:43] larsu: yes, it does [07:48] mitya57, if you're building gnome-panel locally for testing purposes, you can also modify /etc/pkgbinarymangler/striptranslations.conf and set 'enable: false' [07:49] that'll give you the translations [07:49] larsu: ignore that, it's my bug [07:49] mitya57, awesome, I love those :P === smspilla1 is now known as smspillaz [07:49] dpm: the problem is now solved, but thanks anyway === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [07:56] hey [07:56] dpm: turned out I couldn't do it [07:56] the lintian lab doesn't have unpacked source packages [07:57] Laney, no worries, thanks for the update anyway [07:59] hey desktopers [07:59] salut seb128 [07:59] seb128: team report reminder! [08:00] didrocks, oh, indeed! [08:00] thanks ;-) [08:00] yw :) === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [08:06] salut seb128 [08:07] OF COURSE! now glib FTBFS on powerpc, after some 10 builds [08:07] poor pitti :) [08:09] pitti, salut ! ;-) [08:09] pitti, ca va bien ? [08:09] seb128: oui! et toi? [08:10] ca va bien merci ;-) [08:13] larsu: grabbed the fix from your branch and rebuilt the package, nothing changed... [08:14] mitya57, you need to restart the panel [08:14] larsu: I've even logged out and then in, as you can see... [08:17] mitya57, interesting. Do you have the same problem with the power indicator? [08:18] hm, your screenshot doesn't have it, I'm guessing you're not on a laptop then... [08:18] I just have it disabled, will now enable it and see [08:21] larsu: what's the gsettings key to enable the power indicator? [08:22] mitya57, com.canonical.indicator.power icon-policy "present" [08:22] or just set it in system settings / power [08:23] gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.power icon-policy "present" [08:23] No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.power' [08:23] ah, I don't have the package installed :) [08:28] larsu: http://ubuntuone.com/7I0fFOMJ8OsoG9oKHikfEb [08:28] it's not as little as the messaging one, but there's still something wrong with it [08:30] mitya57, looks indeed weird. thanks, I'll have another look [08:32] larsu: please do. I have to go away now, will be back if 20 minutes. [08:35] mvo, hey [08:38] mvo, do you know about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1054070 ? [08:38] Launchpad bug 1054070 in software-center "software-center-dbus crashed with MemoryError in _dump_bsddbm_for_unity(): (12, 'Cannot allocate memory -- Lock table is out of available locker entries')" [Medium,New] [08:38] just hit this one while using the dash [08:40] seb128: ohhh [08:40] seb128: reproducable? [08:42] mvo, I got it 3 times since yesterday, but not easily reproducable [08:42] seb128: what steps did you take? maybe I can also trigger it [08:42] enough though that I could get you infos in the course of the day most likely [08:42] I'm unsure, I played a bit with the shopping stuff [08:43] but basically I opened the dash, typed ccsm, closed the dash, reopened it, replaced ccsm by empathy, right clicked on a result and clicked on the buy button [08:43] seb128: shopping for products or apps? [08:43] the result was an u1 song (without price displayed) [08:44] somewhere in the course of those it did hit the bug [08:45] seb128: and software-center was open while you did that? [08:46] no [08:46] I didn't run s-c today [08:46] interessting [08:47] * didrocks wonders why s-c is asked at all :) [08:47] getting apps rating? [08:48] yes [08:48] ah, right, for ordering the results [08:50] hey seb128, how are you? [08:51] chrisccoulson, hey, I'm good, how are you? [08:51] seb128, yeah, not too bad thanks [08:51] failing miserably to recreate https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6f6e7669-27db-4315-82f8-0a27a2120923 though ;) [08:52] seb128: could you check ~/.cache/software-center/software-center.log for me and see if there is anything this?) [08:52] seb128: or simply mail me the file and I look myself :) [08:53] mvo, nothing from today in that log [08:54] mvo, the timestamp,most recent entry are an sso error from yesterday [08:54] software-center-agent.db has files from today though [08:54] seb128: ok [08:58] glib> armhf (Accepted) -> making progress (armel failed again, gnargh) [08:58] mvo, oh [08:59] mvo, running /usr/share/software-center/software-center-dbus is enough to get the bug [08:59] mvo, could it be that I've too many entries in my sources? [08:59] pitti, thanks for the upload, so the sync we will do after beta2 then? [08:59] right [09:00] I'll sync it tomorrow when LP imported it, but it will sit in the unapproved queue until after b2 === duflu is now known as duflu|crashingX [09:05] taking gnome-terminal [09:05] seb128: could you restart to see if that is still triggering it? [09:05] seb128: if so I suspect a corrupted DB [09:06] mvo, it does [09:06] seb128: if not then I need to look into sizing the locks which feels a bit strange :) [09:06] seb128: cool! [09:06] mvo, it hits that bug every time I run it [09:06] seb128: even after a reboot? [09:06] yes [09:06] I just booted the box this morning [09:06] and it was doing it yesterday already [09:07] seb128: could you mail me "~/.cache/software-center/reviews.ubuntu.com_reviews_api_1.0_review-stats-pkgnames.p__5.1.db*" please? tar it up please [09:07] seb128: should be one file and one directory [09:08] seb128: are you using ecryptfs on /home ? [09:08] mvo, you got it [09:08] mvo, yes [09:09] seb128: cool, thanks [09:09] seb128: that was very helpful, I think I get a idea now [09:10] mvo, urg, wait, I think I screwed that tarball [09:10] ok, no worries [09:10] mvo, sent again [09:11] mvo, first try I put source and destination in the wrong order in the tar command, that screwed the file [09:11] got it right this time [09:11] thanks [09:12] yw [09:12] mvo, let me know if you need extra infos [09:12] seb128: hm, looks like the directory is missing? reviews.ubuntu.com_reviews_api_1.0_review-stats-pkgnames.p__5.1.db.dbenv? or do you know have that? [09:13] mvo, grrr, I'm not fully awake apparently, you got email :p [09:14] * mvo hands seb128 a cup of coffee [09:14] mvo, danke! [09:15] mitya57, can you try this fix please? It hardcodes the icon size to 22px. That's the only way I could find to make it work across panels... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226221/ [09:15] larsu: will try now [09:15] mitya57, fixing the whole indicator icon size mess is high on my list for next cycle [09:16] larsu: should I remove your previous fix or apply both? [09:16] mitya57, yes, apply the new one on top [09:21] larsu: oh, it seems that the patch wasn't applied when I built the previous package (there's no debian/source/format) :( [09:22] mitya57, hm. Can you try with only the first patch, then? It *should* work... [09:22] mitya57, it definitely works with both applied (I tried it in gnome classic) [09:24] larsu: yes, it works with the first one applied! [09:24] mitya57, very cool :) [09:25] larsu: sorry for not noticing absense of quilt... [09:25] mitya57, no problem, thanks for testing ;) [09:26] taking gsettings-desktop-schemas and evince [09:27] seb128: can you keep the system in the state it is now please? I may ask to run a test for me later [09:27] didrocks, \o/ [09:27] mvo, sure [09:36] seb128: could you "bzr get lp:software-center; cd software-center;" and apply "http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226254/" and then run ./software-cneter-dbus and tell me what that outputs in the "print" ? === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle [09:43] mvo, http://ubuntuone.com/0f9uLijLzDXWb7Lx6YvJSE [09:45] seb128: thanks! just for completness, can you please kill the first "print" [09:45] seb128: I doubt that the seocnd one will be called as the open fails but still worth a shot [09:47] mvo, http://ubuntuone.com/0RVEWlJ7MDebyjgRtEbu64 [09:47] mvo, that's the second print, ignore the fact it doesn't have the 2s [09:48] seb128: ok, no crash for you this time? [09:48] no [09:48] that's weird [09:48] hum [09:48] seb128: meh, I think some recovery code killed your env :) [09:49] the system version works now as well [09:49] seb128: there is recovery code for a similar problem already in the code that will blew away the corrupted db [09:49] seb128: and the error from lock_stat() triggered that [09:49] seb128: oh well [09:50] mvo, buggy again (I restored the tar I sent you) [09:51] seb128: excellent [09:51] mvo, http://ubuntuone.com/09r5lXO74sS7c3TSIIN5W5 [09:52] seb128: oh, that is very interessting [09:52] pitti: Hello, I have added a test case (sort of) to the description of bug 1018621, and I think it's ready for precise-proposed. [09:52] Launchpad bug 1018621 in accountsservice ""Language for menus and windows" is not saved if .profile is missing" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1018621 [09:55] GunnarHj: great, thank you! [09:58] seb128: does applying http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226285/ help? i.e. will it work or still fail with the same error? [09:59] mvo, [09:59] __init__.py", line 387, in _dump_bsddbm_for_unity [09:59] flags=bdb.DB_CREATE) [09:59] MemoryError: (12, 'Cannot allocate memory -- unable to allocate memory for mutex; resize mutex region') [09:59] DEBUG:softwarecenter.backend.spawn_helper:helper_finished: '12158' '0' [10:00] seb128: so increasing the limites does not help, same eal? [10:00] mvo, indeed [10:00] * mvo checks further [10:05] ooh, i've just had a delivery of beer [10:06] woah [10:06] how do you get beer deliveries? [10:06] and its even just past five (somewhere), so you can drink one ! [10:07] Laney, by paying for it ;) [10:07] chrisccoulson, which ones did you get this time? [10:07] * ogra_ gets water and beer delivered too in germany [10:07] well, I get that you can get it from the supermarket [10:07] and I've heard of wine clubs, but not for beer :O [10:07] and breaking your bask carrying it ... [10:08] *back [10:08] you also have less variety in supermarkets that the internet [10:08] well I guess it depends where you live [10:08] we here the supermarkets have a limited selection of "common" beers [10:09] nothing fancy or special [10:09] seb128, i've got lots of bottles of stout. and i got a whisky cask aged scotch ale too, which sounds nice [10:09] yummy [10:09] i only got 1 of those though, because it wasn't cheap ;) [10:09] seb128: any luck with http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226298/ (you may have to do bzr revert to make it apply cleanly) [10:09] (£15 for a 330ml bottle) [10:10] !!! [10:10] nothing you get from any supermarket [10:10] mvo, [10:10] __init__.py", line 381, in _dump_bsddbm_for_unity [10:10] env.mutex_set_max(4*current_mutex_max) [10:10] DBInvalidArgError: (22, "Invalid argument -- DB_ENV->set_mutex_max: method not permitted after handle's open method") [10:11] internet delivery of traceback :) [10:11] mvo, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1226301/ [10:11] ogra_: do you think mvo has to pay for it too? :) [10:11] in beer ! [10:11] heh [10:12] seb128: ups, could you move it up before the open please? [10:12] didrocks: I will have to pay seb128 when we meet face-to-face next ;) [10:13] heh [10:13] mvo, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1226305/ [10:13] so internet delivery, IRL payement :) [10:13] interesting process [10:16] seb128: meh, once more please (bzr revert): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226309/ - i.e. setting a mutex size of 4096 or 8192 or something large [10:16] GunnarHj: I uploaded this to the unapproved queue, for the SRU team to review [10:17] mvo, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1226311/ [10:17] seb128: oh? still printing a "0" there? [10:18] mvo, ? [10:18] "*********** 1024" [10:18] seb128: aha, that looks better [10:18] seb128: but same traceback ? [10:18] yes [10:18] :( [10:18] seb128: thanks a bunch, I give up and simply call it corrupted and re-create it [10:19] mvo, ok, so it's a db corruption issue, not an ecryptfs one? [10:20] seb128: I don't know :/ [10:20] seb128: you could move it to /tmp and symlink [10:20] seb128: just for fun [10:20] mvo, what dir is it? [10:20] seb128: and see if moving it outside of ecryptfs makes any difference [10:20] mvo, .cache/software-center? [10:20] seb128: yeah [10:21] mvo, same error [10:21] I guess it's really a db corruption [10:21] because it fixed itself before with the code which cleaned stuff [10:21] I had to restore the buggy dir from my tarball [10:22] seb128: yeah, you can try lp:~mvo/software-center/robustness-lp1054070 if you want, that should auto-fix this now [10:24] mvo, it did, danke! [10:26] seb128: thanks a lot for your help with this one [10:27] seb128: sounds like I can have lunch now :) [10:28] mvo, huuum, lunch! I should consider that as well ;-) enjoy! [10:28] seb128: thanks! [10:54] didrocks: this gtk+2.0 upload basically disables overlay-scrollbar for gtk2? [10:55] Laney: no, it doesn't :) it's just fixing a crash that happened with the previous overlay-scrollbar uploda [10:55] (they call set_overlay) [10:56] it looks to remove a whole load of code [10:56] was that just unused? [10:56] the patch is pretty minimal now [11:01] Laney: yeah, we don't need this special casing anymore (sorry, tracking a lot of things in parallel) [11:01] Laney: tested on geany and ccsm for both pure C and pygtk === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:05] Laney, where do test build webkit? [11:06] seb128: on a cloud instance [11:06] Laney, seb128, please could you add the ubuntu-toolchain-r ppa as a dep to the webkit ppa, and give back webkit? [11:06] is that something you can do? [11:06] with no other source changes to the webkit? [11:06] right [11:06] i'll just make a new ppa and copy it there [11:07] thanks [11:07] np [11:07] Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+bug/1043507/comments/12 [11:07] Launchpad bug 1043507 in binutils "webkit build fails on binutils limitation" [Medium,In progress] [11:07] didrocks: perhaps then you could copy current gtk to release and I will accept the new one [11:08] Laney: oh, overlay-scrollbar migrated to release? [11:08] no [11:08] it migrated to heaven [11:08] I don't get you then :) [11:08] it should be reuploaded to proposed [11:09] Laney: hum, why was it removed? [11:09] didrocks, because it destroyed thunderbird ;) [11:09] because it made thunderbird explode [11:09] probably fixed with this new gtk, right? [11:09] chrisccoulson: really? I shutted down thunderbird and restarted it [11:09] so not sure how to really test thunderbird [11:09] didrocks, it made it crash on startup for me and everybody else :/ [11:09] I just had to open it with the overlay-scrollbar that was in propoesd [11:10] it even made the crash reporter crash too ;) [11:10] chrisccoulson: how to be sure thunderbird really stop running without logging out? [11:10] ps ax | grep thunderbird? [11:10] chrisccoulson: I still have thunderbird hanging a lot at session closing, even if I stopped it 2h ago… [11:10] :( [11:10] seb128: IIRC, I killed thunerbird-bin [11:10] that should be sufficient [11:10] here when tb hangs it prevents me to open a new ui [11:10] weird [11:10] so I notice it :p [11:11] seb128: yeah, and it was the case yesterday [11:11] seb128: then I killed thunderbird-bin [11:11] and didn't get any crash [11:11] weird, dunno about that then [11:11] just did it again (but with the new gtk, so can't compare this time), and no crash as well [11:11] Laney: uploading back overlay-scrollbar to -proposed then? [11:11] didrocks: if it's really fixed by gtk2 ... [11:12] Laney: well, working here, but after yesterday's test, not sure [11:12] do it, I'll test [11:12] Laney: I can just say that geany and ccsm were crashing [11:12] and not anymore [11:12] will reject if it's still broken [11:12] ok :) [11:14] Laney: uploaded [11:14] ty === mdeslaur_ is now known as mdeslaur === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:37] * ken[empathy] waves [13:38] anyone know why launching xchat-gnome pegs my system? [13:38] (xchat-gnome:2934): Gdk-WARNING **: Native Windows wider or taller than 65535 pixels are not supported [13:38] i suspect that has something to do with it [13:38] X was using more than 8G of mem [13:38] ken[empathy], urg [13:39] seb128: suspect anything? [13:39] good morning seb128 :) [13:39] * ken[empathy] sees a gtk2 update [13:39] maybe it's fixed... [13:40] ken[empathy], gconftool --get /apps/xchat/main_window/height [13:40] that and /apps/xchat/main_window/width [13:40] 32767 [13:40] nice [13:40] that would be it [13:40] not sure how you landed in that state though [13:40] weird [13:40] it was fine last night ... [13:40] it's supposed to store the geometry on changes [13:41] compiz maybe went crazy or something [13:42] seb128, ken[empathy], I had the same this morning, on Agave too, so I supsected gtk2. Downgrading the gtk2 update didn't fixed it., though, I think it went away after a liboverlay scrollbar downgrade. But can't confirm, I did a lot of changes. [13:42] ok... this is worse [13:42] i set it to 800 [13:42] verified the change applied [13:42] and started again [13:42] and it reset the value [13:43] back to 32767 [13:43] i got this before my morning update [13:44] i just applied the gtk2 update, after seeing this [13:46] Thinking more about it, liboverlay scrollbar is probably involved, all gtk2 apps were affected, but not Synaptic as root. [13:47] seb128, confirmed... overlay-scrollbar downgrade from 0.2.16+r356-0ubuntu1 -> 0.2.16+r353-0ubuntu2 fixed it [13:47] whew [13:47] that version seems to have been removed from -proposed :) [13:48] a surprising number of people use proposed in the dev release [13:48] you're not supposed to :P [13:48] * kenvandine needs to :) [13:48] you should probably pin it away and just take what you want [13:48] weird how scrollbars are making it reset that gconf key [13:49] kenvandine: are you on amd64? [13:49] fancy testing the new gtk2 with that overlay-scrollbar? === mpt_ is now known as mpt [13:52] * iain waves from xchat-gnome [13:53] seems to work here [13:53] Laney, yes [13:53] Laney, i'd be happy to [13:53] ok, just restarting then I'll put it up [13:53] great [13:54] pitti: hey! So I have libunity.so.9 where I added some calls [13:54] pitti: pygi sees the new symbols, life is good [13:54] pitti: however, after import Unity, and trying to call this new symbol, I get: GError: Could not locate unity_lens_preferences_manager_get_default: libunity.soso: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [13:54] liunity.soso? [13:55] libunity* [13:57] why do I see Google Docs results in "Files & Folders" in the Dash Home, but not the Files lens? [13:58] mhr3, ^ [13:59] I was going to mention it in ubuntu-docs on the files lens page but it needs to be in the files lens for that to make sense [13:59] jbicha, don't you see them *after* you local files results? [13:59] jbicha, or before actually, it can't be one or the other... [14:01] jbicha, results are not merged (yet?), first scope to pass data is the first displayed. [14:01] pitti: ah, better, it was multiarch related :) [14:02] didrocks, no multiarch for you [14:02] kenvandine: http://people.canonical.com/~laney/goodstuff/ [14:02] jbicha, sounds like a bug in the scope [14:03] yeah, the gdocs scope is a bit buggy [14:04] Is the files lens supposed to have a Sources>Local/Online filter for 12.10? [14:04] didrocks: sorry, was afk for a bit, figured it out? [14:07] pitti: yeah, the issue was due to multiarch :) [14:08] kenvandine, I can't reproduce that bug. And thunderbird works fine, so I'm inclined to let these updates into proposed if you verify [14:09] Laney, just a minute :) [14:09] no rush, just saying it WFM [14:10] I get no scrollbar in the main xchat window though, is that intentional? [14:10] there is one in the channel tree [14:16] Laney, xchat or xchat-gnome? [14:16] -gnome [14:16] i haven't installed you updates yet... and i get them [14:16] so not intentional :) [14:16] well, see if it changes after you do [14:16] yeah [14:16] * kenvandine tests [14:21] Laney, works for me [14:21] pitti: however, I would enjoy if you can explain in which circumstance we need to use foo.get_properties("foo") or directly obj.foo :) [14:21] kenvandine: rocking [14:21] and i have the scrollbar in the main chat window [14:21] user error, that's what I like to hear [14:21] hehe :) [14:21] indeed [14:22] ok, cool [14:25] didrocks: you mean get_property()? [14:25] didrocks: foo.get_property("propname") and foo.props.name should always be identical [14:26] didrocks: foo.name only works for properties that you define in a Python class, AFAIK [14:28] pitti: ah, ok, got it :) [14:28] pitti: thanks! [14:28] didrocks: de rien :) [14:35] pitti: You wrote: "I uploaded [the fix of bug 1018621] to the unapproved queue, for the SRU team to review" [14:35] Launchpad bug 1018621 in accountsservice ""Language for menus and windows" is not saved if .profile is missing" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1018621 [14:35] pitti: I saw it there; Thanks! [14:43] I hate vala [14:43] I hate vala [14:43] I hate vala [14:44] didrocks: i love you [14:44] is that how the song goes? === desrt_ is now known as desrt [14:46] desrt: in addition to that, I'm messing with gsettings in vala :) [14:46] cool. anything i can help with? [14:46] desrt: not sure, the issue is not related to gsettings [14:46] just the story [14:46] * Laney did some of that in his shopping lens branch [14:46] jbicha: Hi Jeremy! Considering that we are short of time, did you see the update of https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu-docs/guest-session-fix/+merge/124196 ? Is it ok now? [14:46] I have an enum [14:46] (which is unreviewed *cough*) [14:47] I store the values as int into gsettings [14:47] so, I thought using bind_with_mapping was a good idea [14:47] however, the vala compiles, not the c [14:47] GunnarHj: yes, it's on my queue for today [14:47] apparently vala doesn't like functions having 2 delegates but just one user_data [14:47] jbicha: Great! [14:48] Laney, what branch? [14:48] didrocks: ah yes [14:49] didrocks: long-known issue [14:49] Laney, seems like didrocks might be working on the same thing [14:49] oh? [14:49] https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/unity-lens-shopping/gsettings-toggle/+merge/125899 [14:49] didrocks, ^ [14:49] it would actually prefer the 3 arguments (func, func, data) to be 6 ((func, data, destroy), (func, data, destroy)) [14:50] Laney: hum, no, that's not how design is asking for this [14:51] Laney: who asked you to do it? [14:51] nobody [14:51] I did that FOSS thing :P [14:51] ah, it's better to always check with design :) [14:51] it was a sunday evening job [14:51] I don't care if it gets rejected, the idea is more important [14:51] Laney: the code will be different, the keys are in libunity properly [14:51] and global to all lenses [14:52] I suggested that in that MP [14:52] so, good [14:52] :) [14:52] * didrocks now changes the excellent bin() from desrt to a boring change signal listening because of that [14:53] didrocks: what mapping are you trying to do? [14:55] desrt: just a int (from gsettings) -> vala enum [14:55] didrocks, are you trying to use bind_with_mapping ? [14:55] didrocks: why not use a string? [14:55] storing ints in gsettings is a fauxpas [14:55] ricotz: yeah [14:55] desrt: hum, why? [14:55] (for this sort of thing, i mean) [14:55] desrt: we want a 3-way state [14:55] didrocks: hear me out [14:56] didrocks, this is broken in 0.16 but you can add a custom binding for it [14:56] the usual arrangement for this is to have a proper gobject-visible enum type [14:56] ricotz: oh? snippet of code? (but still listening to desrt :)) [14:56] didrocks, it got "kind of" fixed in 0.18 [14:56] then to have a string value in gsettings [14:56] didrocks: if you bind a string value in gsettings to a gobject property with enum type it will automatically do the correct thing [14:56] ie: if your enum choices are 'foo' 'bar' and 'baz' then those are the values that will be in gsettings [14:56] desrt: oh, I didn't know that [14:57] didrocks, http://paste.debian.net/plain/192865 [14:57] desrt: so, just a value with type s [14:57] binding that [14:57] and it's all automagic? [14:57] ricotz: thanks! [14:58] didrocks: yup [14:58] bind() is cooler than you think :) [14:58] and so is vala :) [14:58] didrocks, but you just need that for custom types [14:59] desrt: let me see it working before being full of joy :) [14:59] fair enough [14:59] just make sure you declare the enum in vala with 'enum' and use that actual type on the property [14:59] desrt, btw do you have any clue about https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=683103 ? [14:59] otherwise it won't know what names to use [14:59] Gnome bug 683103 in Server "schema listing is incorrect" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [15:00] this is silly [15:00] desrt, [15:00] $ gsettings set org.gnome.Vino authentication-methods ['none']1-5:unknown keyword [15:00] seb128: insufficient escaping there [15:00] "['none']" [15:00] doh ;-) [15:01] but it's actually stupid that this list 'none' as a valid choice [15:01] the proper way to denote none is [] [15:01] and dconf-editor fails to edit it as well [15:01] desrt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1226784/ [15:01] but that might be a bug in the editor [15:01] desrt: not really what I hoped :) [15:01] yes. wouldn't be the first :) [15:01] I should try without default value [15:01] to see if it matches :) [15:01] didrocks: it will be "all" in lowercase [15:02] desrt: ah ok :) [15:03] kenvandine: I haven't filed a bug for this yet, but it's annoying that Online Accounts shows up in Alt-Tab & the launcher as Empathy [15:03] desrt: but but, it even work! [15:03] didrocks: you can also complete the cycle with a bit more work... you can wire up glib-mkenums to pick the enum declaraiton out of the .h files generated by vala and write a .xml file describing the choices in the enum [15:03] (checked with a none default value too ;)) [15:03] didrocks: then the editor will give you a nice drop-down menu [15:03] there is a bug for that already [15:04] didrocks: or you could do it the easy way and just have some tags in the schema [15:04] jbicha, ^^ [15:04] didrocks: nice :) [15:04] desrt: let me add the tags :) [15:04] kenvandine: good, I get tired of filing bugs some times :) [15:04] desrt: thanks for the hint! really useful :) [15:04] ricotz: I think I'll prefer that solution then [15:04] not that anyone has looked at it.. [15:04] mhr3: FYI, it will be a string then ^ [15:04] it must be a bamf bug though [15:04] like this: [15:05] desrt: you got 2 of the options I expose, how did you guess them? :-) [15:05] :) [15:06] kenvandine: after adding a new account, do I have to log out & back in for that account to show up in the gwibber lens? [15:06] ok, I still don't like vala, but gsettings is even more awesome than I thought :) [15:06] jbicha, you shouldn't [15:06] didrocks: vala does the favour of registering the enum choices with gobject [15:06] if it doesn't, try doing a search [15:06] didrocks: that's what makes this magic work... [15:06] didrocks: in plain C you'd have had to do it manually or using glib-mkenums [15:08] kenvandine: doing a search doesn't help; I already had Google, but adding Facebook or Identi.ca doesn't show up until I log out [15:08] desrt: interesting :) [15:08] it shows up in Gwibber, just not the lens [15:08] didrocks: if you look at the generated C you will see some array like so: static const GEnumValue values[] = {{FOO_bar, "FOO_bar", "bar"}, {FOO_baz, "FOO_baz", "baz"}, {FOO_quux, "FOO_quux", "quux"}, {0, NULL, NULL}}; [15:08] this is what gsettings uses for the mapping [15:09] didrocks, as long as it's exposed as enum to lenses ;) [15:10] didrocks, yeah, as i said this is only needed for custom types, bind works fine if you follow the naming-specs [15:10] didrocks: one last thing: there is g_settings_get/set_enum(). Those will not work for you as you have it setup here. [15:10] desrt: excellent, so it's position independent [15:10] didrocks: for that to work you need to define the enum in the gsettings (either via glib-mkenums as mentioned before, or manually) [15:11] jbicha, bug... please file that :) [15:11] could be an interesting option for vala to generate that information.... [15:11] didrocks: yes. this is exactly the point. storing ints for enum values in settings has all kinds of problems [15:11] didrocks: the enum could change order and it's more confusing to the user [15:12] desrt: that's right. It's a really nice feature (and unexcepected) feature :) [15:12] didrocks: btw. i notice that you have dconf-editor on the CD by default now... [15:13] and i know you have this excuse about migration scripts or something like that [15:13] but i know the real reason [15:13] desrt: yeah, we needed the dconf binary :) [15:13] it's the real reason [15:13] official, only one :) [15:13] excuses [15:13] * desrt knows the real real reason :) [15:13] and I didn't want to split the package [15:13] desrt: you know me, I'm lazy, just hardly working 10 minutes a day :) [15:13] here's a hint: next, you will want dconf-editor in the launcher by default [15:14] desrt: and a migration script to ensure everyone has it in the launcher by default! [15:14] :) [15:14] didrocks: how's this going to be exposed then? [15:14] desrt, because we love robert_ancell that much? [15:14] somewhere in g-c-c? [15:14] seb128: no. because we love julie :) [15:14] desrt, that's a better reason ;-) [15:14] Laney: yep, appearance or privacy panel, still dealing with design [15:14] Laney: the property is handled in libunity [15:15] Laney: and all lenses are listening to it :) [15:15] nice, that's pretty much what I proposed but didn't want to implement :P [15:15] heh :) [15:15] seems like a good step [15:15] Laney: so, it will cut down the recommends in other lenses as well [15:16] oh? [15:17] you perhaps want to take over bug #1054746 for this, if you don't have one already [15:17] Launchpad bug 1054746 in unity-lens-shopping "No easy way to disable (results from) this lens" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1054746 [15:17] Laney: ah excellent, had no but, indeed :) [15:21] kenvandine, didrocks, chrisccoulson, Ursinha, Laney, mlankhorst, cyphermox, mterry, tkamppeter, robru: it's meeting time in 10 minutres if anyone has a topic (none on the wiki so far), also please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-09-25 with things you worked on this week for those who didn't write anything yet [15:37] back at home, had xdc2012 last week, was fun :-) [15:38] * Laney looks forward to the trip report ;-) [15:39] * mlankhorst seriously doesn't know what to put in it, demo crashed (half expected), had some good talks with intel and got some supar seekrit info from nvidia dev there [15:43] desrt: does GSETTINGS_SCHEMA_DIR still supposed to work? (just pointed to a dir where you have the schema files) [15:45] seems the case, just need to compile them though [15:46] oh and i need to sign up for steam4linux it seems [15:46] didrocks: yup [15:50] mterry: your name is in the changelog for the webapps-applications package. I'm going to do an emergency upload in 30min for bug 1056274 unless someone gives me a better fix by then. [15:50] Launchpad bug 1056274 in webapps-applications "Icons are getting added on Edubuntu systems even though we override the system wide key" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056274 [15:52] stgraber, ah... hmm.. shoot sorry [15:52] stgraber, seems OK to me [15:53] I think the proper fix would be to check the existing system wide value and only add the launchers listed in there, but I don't have time to spend to implement that [15:53] stgraber, yeah seems like a decent workaround, but I've set the bug to affect upstream too so they can maybe come up with something more targetted long term [15:58] mterry: looks like the non-UDD branch is behind the UDD branch, so I'll just push to the UDD branch and let you resync the ~ubuntu-desktop one when you have a moment [15:59] stgraber, updated ~ubuntu-desktop [15:59] mterry: ok, thanks. Let me push there then [15:59] stgraber, sorry, last friday was busy [16:02] mterry: hmm, your changelog entry in the branch is wrong. It should be quantal-proposed, not quantal. I'll fix that when pushing my change. [16:02] * mterry is awful at this [16:03] I bet that was from my PPA upload which doesn't accept quantal-proposed [16:03] mterry, Hmm, I kinda have a brown paper bag issue... since it's a build issue, do you want me to do a release? https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/libpam-freerdp/link-fix/+merge/126282 [16:04] tedg, sure [16:04] mterry: pushed to the branch and uploaded [16:05] * mterry hugs stgraber [16:13] mterry, Are you trying to keep the build-deps in alphabetical order? [16:13] tedg, heh yeah I may have done that last upload [16:13] wrap-and-sort is a sweet tool for that [16:13] sounds like me [16:14] mterry, Ah, no issue, I just wanted to avoid conflicts so doing it the same way. [16:14] Laney, yeah :) [16:14] It took me a few minutes to figure out what the pattern was :-) [16:14] "What is Mike doing?!" [16:15] I thought it was "build tools" then "libs" and then "other" -- but it turns out that's just because they're basically "debian", "lib*", "rest of alphabet" ;-) === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [16:41] didrocks, mterry: is there any plan to make quickly stop using launchpad-integration? [16:42] seb128: I think it's removed upstream [16:42] didrocks, means it will land in quantal or next cycle? [16:43] I think it's already landed, but maybe just the dep has not been removed [16:43] let me check [16:45] seb128: yeah, it's a leftover, I can upload and remove it now if needed [16:46] didrocks, no hurry but it would be good to drop before quantal, I'm trying to kick lpi out :p [16:46] can do now, not taking a long time :) [16:47] and done [16:47] didrocks, 'ci [16:47] seb128: de rien :) [16:48] * mterry was having lunch, but ya'll got it [16:49] didrocks, quickly has a lot of dependencies it can probably drop [16:49] didrocks, still carrying gtk2 deps for benefit of upgrading authors [16:49] mterry: yeah, I imagine so [16:49] mterry: you packaged it lately! your fault? :) [16:54] didrocks, eh, I figured maybe some users in 12.04 still haven't switched... [16:58] desrt: ping? [17:06] * didrocks waves good evening :) [17:06] didrocks, bye@! [17:06] mterry: see you! [17:11] tedg, so old libpam-freerdp builds fine. what is the issue this branch fixes? it doesn't work once installed, because it can't find symbols/ [17:11] ? [17:13] jbicha, hey, can you hack https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sync/+bug/1043379 for the doc team? [17:13] Launchpad bug 1043379 in ubuntu-mono "[UIFe] sync indicator should use ubuntuone-client-* icons + new paused icon needed" [Undecided,Confirmed] [17:13] jbicha, it's adding a new icon for indicator-sync which is not installed by default so it should not create any issue [17:15] seb128, anyone reporting issues with nvidia binary and quasi-transparent windows [17:15] pgraner, not that I read about [17:16] bryceh, tseliot: ^? [17:16] UIF only applies to default apps [17:16] Laney, well, ubuntu-mono is on the CD [17:16] Laney, and that's where the icon is added [17:17] but it doesn't change any part of the default UI? [17:17] no [17:17] seb128, hmmm I'm seeing it on my desktop box after updates today, for example things like the printer-config app show in the launcher but all you get are the borders of the window and they are not clickable it just passes thru to the window underneath [17:17] seems alright to me then [17:17] pgraner, did you upgrade the driver? [17:17] Laney, ok, I was unsure, thanks [17:17] seb128, I'll have to look but I don't think so [17:17] also you want New for unacked release team requests [17:18] the queue is large so we can't be sure to notice new stuff appearing in the middle [17:19] Laney, makes sense [17:19] haven't heard problems like that with nvidia, let me check bug reports [17:19] pgraner, what version of nvidia? [17:20] nope no bug reports against -nvidia describing transparency [17:20] seb128, looks like last driver update for me was on the 20th nvidia-current:amd64 304.43-0ubuntu5 [17:20] pgraner, what did you upgrade in the run between the working and buggy system? [17:21] seb128: indicator-sync was rejected by the Release Team for inclusion by default in Quantal, right? [17:21] jbicha, correct, but it's still in universe [17:21] jbicha, Laney says I don't need a FFe for universe [17:21] jbicha, so unping ;-) [17:22] 304.43 got a lot of community usage before it went in, so maybe doubtful it's the cause here. But we have a 304.48 and 304.51 with some fixes if you'd like to test. [17:22] yeah, it won't affect ubuntu-docs or the Manual then [17:23] not universe, the criteria is "default UI" [17:24] seb128, from dpkg.log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1227034/ [17:25] Laney, right [17:26] ;-) [17:26] pgraner, quite some upgrade, nothing especially suspect though ... is that a one time thing? did you try to restart a second time? [17:26] seb128, yep, does it every time with quite a few apps, I first noticed it on virt-manager [17:27] :-( [17:29] HI all, according to this URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-June/035445.html Ubuntu is planning to not to use GRUB 2 for UEFI secure boot. Is this still standing? Thx [17:30] bizhanMona, no it's not [17:30] no, see the Canonical blog and ubuntu-devel this week [17:30] seb128, here is a screenshot if it helps http://frylock.redvoodoo.org/~pgraner/screenshot.png [17:31] bizhanMona, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-September/035907.html [17:31] seb128: thanks so much what a relief.. [17:31] bizhanMona, you're welcome [17:32] pgraner, try asking the #ubuntu-unity guys or #ps ... [17:33] seb128, ack, I was afraid of that === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [18:42] i'm sure that the edge resistance between my 2 monitors in unity only seems to work occasionally [18:42] every time i want to reveal the launcher, it takes me about 5 or 6 attempts, because there is no edge resistance :/ [19:13] kenvandine: is there a bug for the gwibber lens icon issue yet? [19:15] mterry, Well, not working... it doesn't link in the code that actually does the work. It builds it, but doesn't ship it. [19:15] mterry, PAM handles that well in that there are no errors, but there is no auth. [19:15] tedg, k. I uploaded to quantal-proposed, it'll find its way in [19:17] sigh, more packages to uninstall after doing a dist-upgrade :/ [19:17] mterry, Great, thanks! [19:30] jbicha, yeah [19:32] jbicha, bug 1056191 [19:32] Launchpad bug 1056191 in ayatana-design "[UIFe] Social Lens doesn't have authorised and meaningful icon" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056191 [19:33] kenvandine: I take it that it didn't actually land by EOD today? [19:33] nope [19:33] they said first thing tomorrow now [19:41] kenvandine: ok, I gave it a +1 if they still use a bird icon [19:41] thx [19:42] I assume they probably weren't planning to use a bird... [19:42] dunno [19:42] they actually kind of liked the old one [19:42] which was bird like [19:43] so maybe they will do something similar [19:46] huh, wtf, https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/07383953-3dfa-4ea9-8c31-2c6072120922 ? [19:46] dear appmenu-gtk, please stop crashing firefox, thank you! [20:09] Maby somebody around here that could help me with a GTK+ issue (trying to fix some issue in Remmina) [21:07] the battery low icon isn't red any more? [21:08] hello... im looking for some help === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [22:16] desrt: piing? [23:02] hey bryceh RAOF TheMuso and robert_ancell https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-09-25 [23:03] * bryceh waves [23:03] hey bryceh [23:04] Good $TIMEOFDAY folks. [23:04] Yo [23:05] RAOF, the experimental drivers for precise-proposed are currently in NEW; I'm hoping infinity can get them approved soonish. Then can you help with getting them through SRU? The TB approved expediting them, esp. since they'll be new packages. [23:05] Cool. Will do so. [23:06] we'll also have jockey and nvidia-common changes, which will go through normal (non-expedited) SRU process, but they're also simple and am hoping we can get them through quickly [23:06] next topic... mesa 9. Is the plan to get it landed post beta2? [23:07] That is my thinking [23:07] okie doke, do we anticipate any trouble getting it in? I've encouraged the Intel/mesa folks to get it tagged asap. [23:09] next topic... lts point release. I'm thinking it's about time to start soliciting testers... [23:09] I don't think so? Its a normal bugfixy thing [23:10] When's the 12.04.2 date? [23:10] 3+ months out, dunno exact date offhand [23:10] We probably can start soliciting testers, but I don't think it's urgent [23:10] Jan 31st [23:11] K [23:11] * RAOF needs to head out to Zoë appointment. Back in ~45 min? [23:13] I don't have any other topics [23:13] RAOF, I'll ping you when the SRU stuff is ready to be looked at [23:15] Cool [23:29] robert_ancell: could you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/gdm/fix-gdm-packaging-lp1055292/+merge/126141 [23:29] I don't understand that code [23:30] jbicha, I don't understand it either :) I copied it off gdm in the first place, I guess it's come full circle [23:30] lol [23:31] my guess is the lightdm one was fixed more than the gdm one, so I guess the change is good? [23:35] yeah I guess [23:52] ha =) this is awesome. It's like http://bugs.debian.org/379198 all over again =) [23:53] basically shell/debconf does not have equivalent of python's mydictionary.get(dm_answer, only_one_available) instead you get none set. [23:59] xnox: oh, so you understand it?