[19:17] <allohak> what is meant by "non-support"?
[19:18] <AlanBell> hi allohak
[19:18] <AlanBell> well it means that if you want to get help fixing something on your computer then the place for that is #ubuntu
[19:18] <AlanBell> but if you just want to talk about stuff then go right ahead
[19:19] <allohak> I see, I came here because so far #ubuntu and #ubuntu-server have not been much help
[19:20] <allohak> I was not sure if by "support" they meant "official paid-for support" or if they just meant it in the general sense
[19:20] <AlanBell> #ubuntu is probably the right place for that question
[19:21] <AlanBell> but it is not something that many people will come across
[19:22] <allohak> well, I have spent some time searching about on my particular question, and suspect that I need someone familiar with the server setup to help me
[19:25] <allohak> Question about IRC use (I don't frequently use this system) - is it considered bad form to repost your question every 10 minutes or so if you are not getting replies?
[19:25] <AlanBell> yeah, a bit if you do it too often
[19:25] <AlanBell> there is also askubuntu.com
[19:25] <AlanBell> that might be a better place for that question as questions stay there a bit longer
[19:26] <allohak> ok, perhaps I will try that
[19:29] <IdleOne> there is also #ubuntu-server
[19:30] <IdleOne> allohak: every 10-15 minutes is an acceptable delay in most support channels
[19:31] <allohak> IdleOne, Thanks for the suggestions. I have been posting my question periodically there as well, around the same rate you just suggested. I just was not sure if this was frowned upon or not
[19:35] <IdleOne> nope it is good. keep in mind that there isn't always someone around who knows the answer so it could take some time to get help.
[19:36] <IdleOne> !forums
[19:36] <IdleOne> you might also want to check the forums out
[19:36] <allohak> IdleOne, Yeah, I understand these rooms are volunteer staffed. I've posted on askubuntu.com at AlanBell's recommendation
[19:37] <allohak> ubot5, Thanks for the suggestion, but I've already been digging through them for some time now
[19:41] <IdleOne> I first started using computers in late 1999. I had no speakers, hell the computer I used had no sound card at all, didn't occur to me for almost 2 years that i could actually listen to music.
[19:42] <IdleOne> I sometimes miss the hum of the computer and the system bell
[19:44] <AlanBell> you can listen to music?!?
[19:45] <IdleOne> AlanBell: yes
[19:47] <IdleOne> I only realised that I could listen to music because at the time there was a .wav file that was very popular, wiggle.wav that all my friends would play (This is back in my EFnet days) and I was like what is this wiggle.wav mirc keeps telling me it can't play.
[19:48] <IdleOne> probably still have that wav saved somewhere
[20:30] <LordOfTime> is there an ubuntu discussion mailing list, or no?  purely curious.
[20:32] <AlanBell> lots of them :)
[20:32] <AlanBell> but no particular counterpart to this channel I think
[20:32] <LordOfTime> well i found an interesting thing in Maximum PC magazine, they have one article in this november's issue on Win 8, and the one after that is about Linux, and the one they recommend is Ubuntu.
[20:32] <LordOfTime> i found that extremely interesting :p
[20:33] <AlanBell> nice
[20:33] <LordOfTime> they're usually heavy into tech stuff, and usually Windows oriented.  I use them for my clients' builds when they want a powerhouse build i can really charge em for :P
[20:33] <LordOfTime> but this issue piqued my interest :p
[20:36] <LordOfTime> namely because i was curious how they rated win 8, but also because on the front cover they have at the top left "Is it time to learn linux?" (which REALLY piqued my interest)
[20:36] <LordOfTime> anyways, just found that tidbit interesting
[20:36] <LordOfTime> back to work for me :P