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dholbachgood morning06:56
iulianMorning dholbach.06:56
dholbachhey iulian :)06:58
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mitya57good morning dholbach :)07:00
dholbachhey mitya5707:00
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dholbachI'm doing an ubuntu development hangout in ~15m - would anyone like to co-host it with me? :)13:46
aboudreaultco-host?13:46
aboudreaultha, you are the host speaking?13:47
aboudreault(sorry for my english :P)13:47
dholbachit's a public video stream where I want to talk about ubuntu development - if somebody who is also involved in ubuntu development wanted to be part of the hosts, so talking about ubuntu development, answering questions and the like, that'd be nice13:51
dholbachif not, I'll present on my own13:51
dholbachthe last few times we had coolbhavi there, but I'm not sure if he can make it today as we moved the hangout an hour forward13:52
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tumbleweedLogan_: the debian bugs you mention in bug 1028761 don't seem to be mentioned in the quoted changelog15:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1028761 in git-annex (Ubuntu) "FFe: Sync git-annex 3.20120721 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102876115:38
tumbleweedand the debian bugtracker says they were fixed in a different upload15:38
Logan_oh god I fail15:38
Logan_one sec15:38
Logan_also, that sync can't happen yet15:39
Logan_due to unresolvable dependencies15:39
Logan_but let me fix the description15:39
tumbleweedalso: They are both about build failures due to test failures15:39
tumbleweedbut the version curretnly in quantal built just fine15:40
tumbleweed(although I haven't tried rebuilding it)15:40
Logan_fixed the description15:40
Logan_hmm15:40
Laneyhaha @ -ctte15:41
tumbleweedlol15:42
tumbleweedLogan_: and now I have - it builds fine15:46
tumbleweedso, I'm not saying I'm against a new git-annex, but we need a better reason than "it failed to build in debian, and they fixed it"15:46
Logan_hmm, okay15:46
Logan_I mean, there are a bunch of bug fixes as well15:47
Logan_it isn't just new features15:47
tumbleweedright, then motivate it with those15:47
Laneyit built!?!?!?15:47
* Laney got:15:47
Laney sbuild-build-depends-git-annex-dummy : Depends: libghc-network-multicast-dev but it is not installable15:48
Laney                                        Depends: libghc-network-info-dev but it is not installable15:48
tumbleweedLaney: the version currently in quantal15:48
Logan_tumbleweed is referring to theā€¦ yeah15:48
LaneyI thought we were talking about a synx15:48
Laneyc15:48
Laneysphinx15:48
Logan_tumbleweed: and I just requested an FFe for libghc-network-multicast-dev :(15:48
* Laney meows15:48
* Logan_ cries15:48
micahgso, it'll fail in the rebuild in a few days :)15:48
tumbleweedLogan_: that's what took me here15:48
Logan_gah15:48
tumbleweedmicahg: no, it builds fine, now15:48
mitya57tumbleweed: so there was a DMB meeting yesterday? :(15:49
Logan_well, I unsubscribed sponsors from the git-annex sync15:49
Logan_and I guess I'll unsubscribe sponsors from the haskell-network-multicast sync as well15:49
Logan_pending a better reason to sync the new version of git-annex15:49
Logan_since the current version apparently builds in quantal :P15:49
* Logan_ hates FFe15:50
tumbleweedit's worth investigating whether debian's rc bugs are relevant to us15:50
Logan_I usually do15:50
Logan_slipped my mind with this package15:50
Logan_even though it's painfully easy to check if it will build15:50
tumbleweedthink of FFes as a necessary evil :)15:51
Logan_-necessary15:51
Logan_more like just evil ;P15:51
tumbleweedif we didn't make it hard, people would upload all sorts of crazy stuff15:51
tumbleweed(actually, they do, but shh)15:51
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jamespageLaney, stop poking my Debian badness :-)16:34
Laneyhappy to be of service!16:37
jamespageLaney, I even filed the ITP - just got distracted16:39
* highvoltage can't help reading xnox's changelog entries and hearing it in his voice16:42
xnoxhighvoltage: ubiquity?16:43
xnoxor code reviews?16:43
highvoltageubiquity.16:43
xnox*sigh*16:43
xnoxit's not that bad, is it?16:43
highvoltageno it's not bad at all16:44
Laneyaww16:44
LaneyI think he was being nice16:44
highvoltageyour written you and your real-life you is just very consistent and somehow when you say things like "*sigh*" I can already see how you're really doing it in real life already too16:44
highvoltage(sorry for finding entertainment value in it :p)16:45
xnoxmeh16:46
xnox;)16:46
xnoxwill be doing ubuntu download & installation documentation review on thursday. Should be fun.... =)16:47
* highvoltage should do that too for the updated edubuntu docs16:47
highvoltage(even though we'll pretty recommend that people stick to 12.04 LTS)16:48
highvoltages/pretty/pretty much/g16:48
Laney:O16:48
highvoltageLaney: with unity 2d gone ltsp is a bit more problematic on 12.10 and it doesn't bring any killer features so they're mostly really just better off on LTS this time16:50
LaneyI suppose most edubuntu deployments will be LTS anyway16:50
highvoltage(and Edubuntu 12.04.1 is very solid, really)16:50
highvoltageyeah. I guess for single-install laptops and home desktops, etc 12.10 would be ok16:50
highvoltagewe should really just start a campaign to get people involved in backporting educational packages in the archives16:51
highvoltageand package a bunch of stuff that's not available in it, but that should be yet another campaign.16:51
highvoltagethere's just so much to do.16:52
* highvoltage caves a little more16:52
xnoxlike mythbuntu?17:00
highvoltageno like in the utopia that I imagine the world could be.17:06
LaneyI revise my lolling at -ctte down to sighing17:08
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jtaylormeh lost irc and thunderbird in quantal with yesterdays updates ...18:14
Laney'lost'?18:15
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jtaylorboth apps won't start, smuxi even kills my X :(18:16
Laneylet me guess18:16
Laneyyou're updating from proposed18:16
jtayloryes, a mistake apparently18:16
Laneyas has been repeatedly advertised18:16
jtaylorreally?18:16
jtaylorI didn't enable proposed myself18:17
Laneyyeah, requires manual disabling currently18:17
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dupondjeSomebody around here that knows alot of GTK+ ?20:22
geserdupondje: you might have better luck in #ubuntu-desktop (or even better #gtk+ on irc.gnome.org)20:54
dupondjegeser: tried both :) seems quite silent :)20:55
Laneygtk or gnome-hackers would be much better20:55
Laneydead or no dead20:56
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