[08:36] <ibeardslee> mutter mutter Precise and Network Manager Sometimes .. have to remember to mangle the idea of eth0 and eth1 if you change network cards
[08:37] <ibeardslee> right on that note /me wanders busward
[09:50] <hads> That's udev rather than NM though.
[10:05] <karora> ibeardslee: rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[10:05] <karora> reboot
[10:07] <karora> Having that hit me occasionally has been momentary pain, but then I remember how much pain there used to be when it *wasn't* persistent, and I think of how infrequently I change my network hardware, and I decide it's probably the right answer.
[10:13] <atamira> he'll see it in the morning. its after 10pm here now
[13:06] <G> karora: biosdevname is a good solution too, although a tad confusing for old hands :)
[18:39] <hads> biosdevname is too confusing
[19:44] <chilts> morning
[20:28] <ajmitch> morning
[20:34] <mwhudson> morning
[20:35] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:36] <ibeardslee> karora: yeah that's what I ended up doing .. well actually commented out the existing lines 'just in case'
[20:37] <karora> It's designed to be OK to just remove it.
[20:38] <ajmitch> ibeardslee: how'd the laptop swap go?
[20:39] <ibeardslee> apart from the network glitch all well.  Ended up swapping the msata drives around.
[20:39] <ajmitch> ah, the easy way once you fought past the screws
[20:39] <ibeardslee> although I did discover that I'd copied about 54GB of the 64GB disk across and the machine booted off that image
[20:39] <ajmitch> heh
[20:40] <ibeardslee> but in the end we'll end up with a spare mSATA floating around here as well
[20:41] <ibeardslee> it looks like putting that extra disk into the ultra lap involves really taking the whole thing apart
[20:41] <ibeardslee> https://twitter.com/ibeardslee/status/250496350561656832/photo/1
[20:41] <ajmitch> that's a pain, but not surprising considering the form factor
[20:42] <ibeardslee> those black bits on the side seem to be the batteries (there goes the idea of carrying a spare batteries for these)
[20:43] <ajmitch> nice to see what it's like inside though
[20:43] <ibeardslee> the gap between them is where the sata drive goes, but it needs to be attached by screws from the other side of that plastic
[20:43] <ajmitch> no wonder you can only put in a 7.5mm high drive there
[21:00] <atamira> morning
[21:15] <ojwb> morning
[21:21]  * chilts awaits the drop, cover, hold thing
[21:21] <chilts> kinda funny knowing that in advance
[21:23]  * ojwb warms up his earthquake machine
[21:42] <chilts> phew, looks like most of us survived
[21:42] <chilts> maybe all :)
[21:43] <chilts> actually, 2 people didn't do it ... which is absolute lunacy
[21:45] <ajmitch> so they've been taken to hospital now? :)
[21:46] <ibeardslee> hmm wha?
[21:51] <thumper> morning
[21:55] <atamira> i didnt hear anything
[21:55] <atamira> were we suppose to hear something?
[22:01] <kcj> Morning.
[22:22] <mwhudson> sometimes i would like to know what i am actually typing when i get my gpg passphrase wrong
[22:22] <chilts> I don't think Civil Defence did anything, it was up to you and your people to organise it for your building
[22:22] <chilts> they just made the phones beep here